KPOP STAN RED FLAGS YOU SHOULD AVOID!
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As a kpop stan I’m not afraid to admit that just because your favorites can rap fast doesn’t make them a good rapper. The lyrics have to make sense and actually click 🤷🏽♂️ idgaf if they’re saying 100 words per second it actually has to be good.
YES OMG
THIS RIGHT HERE
Some kpop stans use this as an excuse to hate on actual good rappers tho
There was a kpop Stan on Twitter that reposted Cocona rapping it said “I see why people hate XG” this person didn’t even give any reasons and it has 30k likes
I remember seeing that and logging off immediately 😒
7:46 this is so real like how you gonna make someone apologize for dating someone 🫤
I just avoid twitter/X at all cost. That place is just so dark and disgusting to me, humanity gets lost in there. Young teenagers who are under 18, make X accounts just to hate on a group, write things there that they will probably at some point regret and cringe at the things they posted bc that's exactly how it usually goes. Unless, you are a full time working adult but still somehow manage to have a hate X account just for kpop groups...... please, take a deep breath and reconsider how you want to live your life because that just shows usually how immature you are and can't respect others. BTS, BLACKPINK, TWICE, they're all great groups. Some people just need a better hobby and a serious life guidance. Btw, great video again Seb
honestly when someone asks me if i am a kpop stan, i simply say "I stan bts and i casually listen to kpop" im not into stanning other groups as for me this one group takes a LOT of my time and energy. but i give it a casual listen.
I don't stan bts but like i feel like they have a lot of content esp since they're becoming an older group and if you stared stanning them like kinda late in their career like 2020 lol
True i started stanning them in 2020. I just can't seem to stan any other group , time is an important factor but also I couldn't emotionally connect with any other group. Though i casually listen to kpop i wouldn't spend my time energy or money on them.
that’s how i am with twice, ateez & zb1 😁
@@GoLol1 i started stanning them mid 2017 actually.
@@wild_sunflower facts bestie. You do what you love! I hope u are having fun tho!
Stanning one group should not be seen as problematic, some people just don’t want to stan 45 different groups. I can’t even keep up with the only group I stan which is bts 😂 I’m a college student so I barely go on Twitter and am unaware of the drama going on in kpop. My advice is to stay away from twitter, my best decision is not being too active on twitter because every day I used to see a hate tweet on my tl with lots of hateful people. That just ruins my day so I stay mostly on TH-cam. I keep up with bts through weverse announcements, there’s no need to engage with other fandoms on twitter. I never understood fan wars, twitter is infested with lots of mean girls and guys who won’t say what they say online in real life.
exactly! As long as they're not hating on anyone I don't see a problem. I personally only really stan BTS, Ateez, and recently Seventeen. Even then, I still listen to other groups if I hear a good song from them bc not everyone has the same taste.
wait I thought I was the only one with this 'type' of engagement lmao 😂 I barely keep up with bts content, let alone other kpop group and it is not because I refuse to listen to other group. I don't engage with any fan wars going on in twitter ( I just read some and then ignore them ), I don't take notice with recent dramas in kpop world because sometimes ignorance is a bliss. my own way to show support to my fav is by listening to their music and watch their content and that's all for me. I'm proud of that
@@flssmssll that's all it should be about tho. Supporting the music (not forcefully either) and watching their content when we can. Everything else should even be any of our business because they're humans too and should have more privacy than they actually do. I actually only keep up with Ateez content now but idk how it's gonna be when bts comes back bc I absolutely loved Run bts but more fun for me I guess😂
@@btsmultistan I actually stan bts in 2016 when bst released lmaoo but then after years I couldn't keep up with their content so I just stream their mvs 😓🤣 when covid strike in 2019 and we had a lockdown, trust me I watch every single bts content 24 hours and feels like I was back in my baby army moment lol. now with bts in military and no more content, I watch their old ones like bangtan gayo, run bts, bon voyage and in the soop. and I try to get to know about other groups too like apink, itzy and ateez 😂
@@flssmssll I feel you lol. I started with bts (and kpop) at the end of 2021 so I had a lot to catch up on😅 I mostly just watched Run bts and I think I watched all episodes in like a week😭 mostly bc I had insomnia with nothing better to do but that's about it. I of course went and listened to every song I could find and still haven't found them all. Then I found Stray Kids and loved their music too, but didn't get too far with them since I was trying out different groups. Then I think it was last year that I found Ateez and that's when I immediately decided to stan them. They definitely changed me😅 Even went as far as to change my ult to them. Although I still love bts and stray kids too. I prefer bgs but some gg songs are pretty good. But it's always nice to discover other groups' music as well. I just don't commit to actually stanning that many groups
Sorry but enhypen has no bad songs, every single one is a masterpiece
Now why did you wake up and decided to spit FACTS
PERIOD
It's about opinions but still FAX
No seriously
I 100% agree, hey tayo is the song of the century😎😎😎
i'm really sorry but i've been a kpop stan since 2017 and i still get confused and nowadays since i'm older, upset, that kpop artists' relationships being revealed are called DATING SCANDALS. like HOW are they scandalous?! yall dating too stfu cuz like i'm nigerian and there's this culture of having the absolute nosiest neighbours and teachers that literally report you to your parents if they see you even make eye contact with a boy and this one time i went to buy something from the store and met a classmate that was in the area and i came home to find that our neighbour saw me talking to him and called my mom and i got hit, grounded, and my entire family was called and i still get scolded to this day abt that one time i 'smeared my father's name' like IMAGINE HOW THE ARTISTS MUST FEEL TO BE JUDGED LIKE THAT!!!!!! why cant we just be like oh 'dating news' or 'relationship revealed' or smth i cant with kpop culture sometimes bffr guys
sorry i just trauma dumped on a public comment section but i just feel like i feel their pain y'know?
And sometimes they're just RUMORS and people just hate the artist for no reason. Also I'm so sorry that happened to you. That sounds awful. I hope you're ok now
I guess, since I'm only ARMY, that's my toxic trait? Lmao I listened to several groups when I first got into BTS thinking they'd be a gateway to the rest of KPop...heh, not really. The songs I heard aren't BAD, there is so much hard work and talent in other groups! But Bangtan does something no else does for me, and that goes beyond KPop
I thought I was the only one who can not give up staning BTS😭😭
Am 35 yrs old and only Stan 💜ᗷTS⟭⟬💜 . That's it. The only way I can listen to other k pop artists is only when they collab with Bts members .
I don't even have a TikTok nor Twitter 😂
I like hybe because of bts because the fact that they built this company on their own makes me so proud
12:43 arguably twice is more hated than both bts and blackpink, at least on twitter...since "slave room", twice are getting a lot of hate even for breathing
be fr every business day im seeing bp and bts hate tweets with at least 10k likes from both armys and blinks
@beraty.6899 im not saying they aren't getting tons of hate, they are the biggest groups at the moment, i'm just saying that i see more often kpop stans uniting to hate on twice more than praising them, like it's ok until twice does something
As a k-pop stan, I'm ashamed to admit how much fans get involved trying to follow every bit of news and drama going on just to figure out if you should keep following a group you like or not. I'm not consistent on it myself but I do try to separate the art from the artists. I'm not gonna go out hating on people who liked a song or had their lives changed by someone's music and make that person live in shame for enjoying what they enjoyed because 10+ years later, the artist turned out to be a POS or alleged POS.
First comment and also I LOVE YOUUUUUUU MY FAV ONLY REASON ON THIS APP RN 😭😭😭😭
7:46 im also still sad about the fact that Seunghan had to go on hiatus for being in a dating scandal, like all that happened BEFORE debut.. ( also the smoking ). Like why be mad about it now?
bro he just forgot the shippers over kpop idols
Man that's a whole another video😮
I REALLLY LIKE ALL THE SONGS MT FAVES RELEASED?!?
Same
literally same. I skip TWO songs from 200 something songs that stray kids have... I just like their song bcs it just fits my taste thats it😔
@@yumekzmz3891 slay! dont listen to crappy haters bestie. You listen and vibe!!
1:47 as much as I would love to see you and another youtuber go head to head i feel like it would 100% start a fanwar or tt or twitter cause stans are mad sensitive these days
12:43 not afraid to admit that this goes for skz too!! CERTAIN fandoms hate on them for even breathing ....
Some stuff in the video I disagree with. Like being on TikTok and liking every comeback?! If a group I like, imo makes good music every comeback, that makes me a ‘bad K-pop stan’?! 💀 I agree with some of the things listed but those ones are just dumb to me.
I’m proud that even when I’m on ig, twitter or TikTok I almost never experienced like some disgusting and toxic behavior. Like I mostly stan SKZ but I’m staying most of the time on really good side of the fandom as a K-pop stan generally.
As a casual kpop listener, I'm not afraid to admit that some of these groups should have never debuted
why
Or at least waited a bit more to debut. I know trainees work hard but sometimes it just feels like they need more work
bro twitter kpop users r diabolical
the twitter one is real, have over a thousand people blocked lmao
Kpop stan for 15 years now. Half my age. Soo yeahhh, saw diff kpop stans for years…
7:46 I think it was Karina for dating an actor and not someone for Physical 100. Wrote a letter to those "fans" and even then they got mad at her. Jihyo got into a rumor with Yu Sung-Bin from Physical 100 but fans were chill about that.
"No way you like everything your faves release." YES, I DO. I am an Enhypen fan bro. They don't release bad music.
As a HYBE fan, I just don't feel like checking out other groups just yet. Hell, I only follow HYBE BGs, not including BND and TWS because they're still new to me. I've seen content and heard music here and there but none so far are making me, I guess, curious enough to fully check them out and stan them especially since HYBE already has my ult (&TEAM) and I'm satisfied staying there for now. I'm not someone who's looking for new music to listen to every hour and as someone who's broke both in money and time, I'd rather spend it to those I already like. If I do end up liking a new group, I'll like them then, just not now.
I downloaded Twitter because they have a save photo option that instagram doesn't lol
Oops i guess my toxic trait is not being into absolutely everything 😢 Army with a side of mamamoo enjoying and that's about it, and it took me a decade of occasionally trying to step out of my jrock preferences to dip a foot into kpop before i was saved and accepted bts into my heart lololo
Problematic kpop artists? It depends who we're talking about and what line they crossed. I'm sure some people would call certain kpop artists I still like and support "problematic" but honestly idgaf 😂 "drug scandals" concerning pot and unfounded "bullying" accusations with no proof in particular shouldn't make someone problematic, and neither should a choice of boyfriend or how sexualized their performances are. Like at least have legitimate reasons as to why they should be completely derailed, otherwise you're no better than a delusional fan, or worse a hater bully 🤷♀️
Point 4... Can't say I relate, because MAMAMOO's my only group I listen to, and they've never released any bad songs, their vocals carry any badly written songs.. 😅
p.s. in relation to Point 9 in this case... MMM really set my standard too high for me to "stan" any other groups... but I do listen to the others, just now to the point of stanning. 😅
13:46 the only actually problematic idols in the eyes of a lot of kpop stans that I can think of are like. suju, jay park, jessi, and the one woman who lowkey ruined her career by dating that other guy other than that idk i think you're good
do you mean hyuna
@@solandisss YEAH i forgot her name
You know sometimes I feel like I’m not a good kpop stan until i see all of the drama going on all over social media. From fandom wars to scandals. I’m also very much a baby kpop stan and clearly have only scratched the surface of the genre. I am confident in stating that i am a Straykids fan. But i have listen to other groups songs in passing to expand my knowledge of what is out there. Groups as: Ateez, TxT, The Boyz, BtoB, EXO, Red Velvet, Twice, NewJeans, Nmixx, NCT, and many more. Do i have a habit of returning to my favorite songs or groups. Yes but I don’t think i am ignoring or ignorant to the entire culture. I hope this all makes sense. I just wanna enjoy good music made by talented people 💕
Listen... I don't LOVE every comeback, but I do not have a picky taste in music. I like practically anything that's not screamo or hard metal (nothing against them, it just overstimulates me). For several groups, I like or love all their discography. Some might not be my fave, but if it comes on, I'm not gonna skip it. Anybody else?
i mean i use tik tok and twitter literally for fun like i post funny compilations and repost edits😭 same with twitter. i just use it to keep up with my groups and tweet about their music and funny stuff ive never gotten into the toxic side. i just dont engage~
also about the discography thing if you genuinely like every song your favorite groups put out thats prob why they are ur fav group!
They not only made karina from aespa apologise, the couple also broke up because of all the negative comments they recieved
wait they did?!? I was so happy for her 😭
I only agree with some of the things he/she said, and some I just don’t see as problematic
Bro, Instagram comments are so mean TT If I tried to argue with every person I thought was being rude, I'd be on there all day and night! I just try to keep scrolling
Its not about them not having any bad songs but maybe some songs arent your fav genre or vibe be for real not everything is your absolute favourite ever always
Right now I only really stan Ateez. Of course I'll give other groups a chance and listen to a few songs just in case I like something from their discography. Also I mostly listen to bgs but that doesn't mean I'll completely ignore ggs bcs c'mon guys Mamamoo exists lol. Either way, I don't think listening to just one group is bad as long as they're not hating on other groups. Like why do ya'll care what someone listens to?? Also, so what if I like every single Ateez song I've heard?!? 😤 ppl act like they know me and what I like lmao.
Ok so I am a kpop stan who uses TikTok, and I will honestly tell you that I've had worse experiences on TH-cam and Twitter.... Sure, there's plenty of cringe there, but that's the same with any platform. Just my personal opinion.
For me it's bandwagon 'fans'. Especially during accusations against an idol. It's fine to support who is supposedly the victim but quite a few forget about innocent until proven guilty. People read 'accusation' and probably don't understand what it means and immediately start hating on the idol when they don't even know if the accusation is true. Sometimes I think its just people who say their fans and used the chance to hate on the idol suddenly. Most of the time the idol gets kicked out and suddenly the accusation is proven false, those 'fans' just remain silent pretending they weren't part of that hate bandwagon. I would rather stay in the middle until evidence and proper statements release before I go supporting any side.
i have like 3 groups i fully stan, and the rest i casually listen to. i can’t just stan one group tho lol
Ranking kpop stans in terms of what platform they use in my opinion (from best to worst):
TH-cam
Twitter/X
Reddit
Tiktok
Instagram
Instagram stans are freaking evil
How is Twitter not the worst I had to uninstall mine all the hate and negativity were getting to me.
@wild_sunflower Instagram and tiktok comments can be so much worse, though, depending on what fandom you're being attacked by. I speak from experience 😭
@wild_sunflower This could be because I only interact with the fandoms I'm in on Twitter, whereas it's much easier for me to come across different fandoms everywhere else
11:17 was proven to be fake and ofc ppl gonna defend a girl who is literally a teenager and civilian leave her alone. Weird how y’all energy treat hyunjin like this 🥴
2024 and we're still using the word "stan". Unbelievable 😂
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I dont see how idols dating is a scandal? They are real people
lmao the generation thingy got me, honestly that one i am guilty of but still lol
I think it's mostly the people who bring it up all the time and bring other groups down. There's nothing wrong with having a preference for one generation as long as no one is hating
@@btsmultistan exactly, i mean i still listen to 4th or 5th gen songs but they aren't in my favs
"stans who like every cb" just say yalls favs doesn't make great music and go 😭 cuz as a bts stan, my boys ain't got a single skip in their discography lmao
Low-key I forgot what he told me to coment, soo bye, I watched this video😃
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Well I'm sorry but i genuinely like all of Ateez songs and comebacks....
8:25 hyuna👀
Uh oh I use Tiktoks 😔😔
I mostly only like girl kpop groups 😮
And I'm the opposite 😂 but I do like a few gg songs out there
@@btsmultistan I just can't get into any guy groups except bts
@@Seayouandmethinkoutsidethebox that's fine. Everyone has different taste anyways. My one exception is Mamamoo lol. They have amazing vocals and their songs/concepts are more of what I like
@@btsmultistan yeah, but I don't listen to mamamoo 😄
11:21 and 12:34 periodt and 14:22
Why is garam in it??
I say this ZEROBASEONE ARE THE 5TH GEN KINGS no buts or ands. I admit that.
5:02 ARMYs or STAYs or ENGES
as a army i HATE of bts/some of bts solos songs.