Great video Jeff, definitely need more of this type of information which helps the everyday shooter work on there guns and know them better especially if your having an issue with the gun and figuring out what the problem could be, great stuff man keep it coming!
@@jeffreydietz8339 Thank you! It’s definitely not for everybody. There’s guys that like this stuff & those that don’t. I love taking guns apart & tinkering. Knowing how it works is super helpful
Ahh you are the man! Thanks so much for doing this. Glad i wasnt crazy on those thumb safeties and MSH. I quit the first time bc i was worried i was doing it wrong and gonna scratch the hell out of the finish but now i can give it a go and probably still scratch it up 😂😂
@@TheCsmith5888 No worries. But I did it a bit out of order in the video. You wanna get the grip safeties out first & then the you can roll the beaver tail down out of the MSH, which will then slide right out.
@ makes sense. Just a matter of getting those safeties off with destroying the dlc. I remember my XC safeties were a nightmare to remove the first time. Much easier the next few times.
@@Thomas-vt7cz Haha, it’s definitely not a typical 2011. It’s not a video that’s everyone will find interesting. Pretty specified. But thanks for tuning in!
@@angelopanetta No problem. But since posting I’ve realized that once you get the safeties out, you can remove the housing pin & roll the beaver tail right out from the main spring housing.
Thanks for that, really helpful. Any chance pulling the safety and beaver tail before the mainspring housing would make it a bit easier? I couldn't tell for sure, but it looked like the beaver tail may swing back on the hooks and drop out. I'm not ready to take my frame apart yet to find out. :)
@@DavidLyle65535 Funny you ask that, when I was editing this I wondered the same thing. After you get the thumb safeties out, you may be able to get the beaver tail off, but it does have the two little ears that recess into the frame & im sure it’s in there pretty good with how it interfaces with the main spring housing. Next time I take it apart I will try it though. Because it certainly seems like there’s a better way.
@@ryandoubleu225 Oh nice! That’s good to know. Thanks for the info. It didn’t feel like the way I was doing it was correct. I might have to make a follow up video. Appreciate it!
@@hez2k Oh man, I didn’t. I didn’t even think about it at the time. I’m sure I will take it apart again soon though. I’ve been thinking about different disassembly techniques & want to see if they work. So I will compare the two next time.
I was hoping to see you take out the hammer, sear and disconnector out so we could see what type of firing pin safety they added. From the looks of it it might be a Colt style series 80 firing pin safety.
@@patriotfromthenoket6141 No worries! I’ve heard of people having that issue, biting the webbing on their hand. I haven’t had a chance to shoot mine yet, I just got the optic plate so I will shoot it this week. But it’s the most comfortable Staccato, in hand. I’m hoping not.
@ I agree. In hand it’s so good! Shooting it on the other hand is uncomfortable unfortunately compared to traditional 2011’s. I hope it wears in or I just get used it probably.
@ Dang,? I hate to hear that. So is it where the beaver tail meets the main spring housing is a pinch point? Maybe it will break in.. I will report back after I get my initial shots. 🤞🏼
@@patriotfromthenoket6141if I rest my thumb on the safety mine does as well. If I allow it to float on top of my other hand it does not but it’s easy to engage the safety if it’s not resting on it. Hope they have a diff safety lever option. The frame is just simply too sharp right there if they would take that edge off this problem wouldn’t exist
@ agreed. The old grip safety used to act as a buffer and with it removed I get too high of a grip, if that makes sense. My support hand knuckle will bump the safety on during recoil which is really annoying. I’m going to have my gunsmith install Atlas high ride safeties and see if that solves one problem.
After I got mine back from warranty work last week the beaver tail is a tad bit loose. It clicks and pops on the back strap where the “hooks” are and it meets the beaver tail. Yours have any play right there?
@ I believe so if I take the pin out in the bottom and allow it to drip down 1/32nd it all becomes tight again. The beaver tail itself just has a small amount of play in it now in all directions. If I grab it I can wiggle it around. It’s minimal but enough for the plastic to pop when pressed on
@ I just looked at mine & if I press on the beaver tail it will “pop” a little. But that’s because it’s pushing the hammer strut into the main spring. Totally normal. As long as the seams are all flush between the beaver tail, main spring housing & frame and as long as there’s not slop in your beaver tail, I think you’re good.
@ mine will pop. But I don’t think I would have noticed it if you didn’t point it out. So perhaps yours has more movement. If you want to send me a video I could get an idea if it’s the same as mine or worse. Weaponcollective@gmail.com
I own a P Heritage 4.15---- not quite understanding what Staccato means by "more reliable," etc etc--- the guts of the gun are nearly identical to any other of their line. Looks very difficult to field strip. And they didn't make any new armorer tools to get this done. I think I'll keep my P4.15 haha.
@@Article94 Yeah it’s 90% the same. As far as armorers tools go, it may be that I did it incorrectly & the basic tools would suffice. Honestly, that’s probably the case. LOL. But either way, you can’t go wrong with a 4.15”
The hero we want. Thanks for posting this video
@@InkwellFoto You’re welcome!
Great video Jeff, definitely need more of this type of information which helps the everyday shooter work on there guns and know them better especially if your having an issue with the gun and figuring out what the problem could be, great stuff man keep it coming!
@@jeffreydietz8339 Thank you! It’s definitely not for everybody. There’s guys that like this stuff & those that don’t. I love taking guns apart & tinkering. Knowing how it works is super helpful
Thanks for putting this video out here, great work as always.
@@JoseGarcia-rg9ir Thank you!
You’ve got an awesome collection bro!
Thank you!🙏🏻
Ahh you are the man! Thanks so much for doing this. Glad i wasnt crazy on those thumb safeties and MSH. I quit the first time bc i was worried i was doing it wrong and gonna scratch the hell out of the finish but now i can give it a go and probably still scratch it up 😂😂
@@TheCsmith5888 No worries. But I did it a bit out of order in the video. You wanna get the grip safeties out first & then the you can roll the beaver tail down out of the MSH, which will then slide right out.
@ makes sense. Just a matter of getting those safeties off with destroying the dlc. I remember my XC safeties were a nightmare to remove the first time. Much easier the next few times.
@ Yeah, they are so tight, if you depress that detent, it comes out much easier.
Braddah Jeff! Always great content you put out. Aloha from las Vegas Bud 🤙🤙
@@The_Nameless_Entity Thank you!🙏🏻
Wow, Jeff I am sweating and I was just watching bruh,,, Now where is my towel... Nice illustration Jeff... 😎
@@Thomas-vt7cz Haha, it’s definitely not a typical 2011. It’s not a video that’s everyone will find interesting. Pretty specified. But thanks for tuning in!
@@TheWeaponCollective It seems that way. Anytime my man... 😎
Excellent! Thanks for posting.
@@angelopanetta No problem. But since posting I’ve realized that once you get the safeties out, you can remove the housing pin & roll the beaver tail right out from the main spring housing.
Sheeeeesh did you goto SDI 😮
@@hyper8545 I wish. I just like taking stuff apart & tinkering on everything. It’s a good time!
That looked like a lot of fun Jeff...but range day might be more fun?
@@sickjohnson Haha, I think you’re onto something there!
Appreciate the takedown tutorial. What are your plans for Monsoon to do to it? Excited to see them work their magic on it!
@@ryanjenkins7109 it will get the Genghis Komp, stipple job & a Cerakote job
@ that sounds awesome! Can’t wait to see it, and to see you shoot it.
@ Yeah, me too brother. Unfortunately it takes some time to get done.. but it will be up on the channel as soon as it’s back,
@@TheWeaponCollective understood. What are their turnaround times these days?
@ it’s usually about 2 1/2-3 months. But hopefully sooner
Another first. Congrats again
@@Gypsyman40 Thank you! 🙏🏻
Thanks for that, really helpful. Any chance pulling the safety and beaver tail before the mainspring housing would make it a bit easier? I couldn't tell for sure, but it looked like the beaver tail may swing back on the hooks and drop out. I'm not ready to take my frame apart yet to find out. :)
@@DavidLyle65535 Funny you ask that, when I was editing this I wondered the same thing. After you get the thumb safeties out, you may be able to get the beaver tail off, but it does have the two little ears that recess into the frame & im sure it’s in there pretty good with how it interfaces with the main spring housing. Next time I take it apart I will try it though. Because it certainly seems like there’s a better way.
@@TheWeaponCollectivejust tried this and the mainspring housing comes out perfectly as you roll the beaver tail down
@@ryandoubleu225 thanks for doing the work I was nervous to attempt.
@@ryandoubleu225 Oh nice! That’s good to know. Thanks for the info. It didn’t feel like the way I was doing it was correct. I might have to make a follow up video.
Appreciate it!
Did you happen to compare the trigger bows from the regular P?
@@hez2k Oh man, I didn’t. I didn’t even think about it at the time. I’m sure I will take it apart again soon though. I’ve been thinking about different disassembly techniques & want to see if they work. So I will compare the two next time.
I was hoping to see you take out the hammer, sear and disconnector out so we could see what type of firing pin safety they added. From the looks of it it might be a Colt style series 80 firing pin safety.
@@josephgonzalez1135 It is the series 80. I can do another video showing taking those apart & looking at how it workd
@ that would be awesome, thank you! I was hoping it wouldn’t be something new or even a version of the Schwartz firing pin block.
@ Haha, nope series 80. Luckily they didn’t try to reinvent the wheel
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Appreciate this. Is the HD biting the webbing hand/thumb knuckle like it is mine?
@@patriotfromthenoket6141 No worries! I’ve heard of people having that issue, biting the webbing on their hand. I haven’t had a chance to shoot mine yet, I just got the optic plate so I will shoot it this week. But it’s the most comfortable Staccato, in hand. I’m hoping not.
@ I agree. In hand it’s so good! Shooting it on the other hand is uncomfortable unfortunately compared to traditional 2011’s. I hope it wears in or I just get used it probably.
@ Dang,? I hate to hear that. So is it where the beaver tail meets the main spring housing is a pinch point? Maybe it will break in.. I will report back after I get my initial shots. 🤞🏼
@@patriotfromthenoket6141if I rest my thumb on the safety mine does as well. If I allow it to float on top of my other hand it does not but it’s easy to engage the safety if it’s not resting on it. Hope they have a diff safety lever option.
The frame is just simply too sharp right there if they would take that edge off this problem wouldn’t exist
@ agreed. The old grip safety used to act as a buffer and with it removed I get too high of a grip, if that makes sense. My support hand knuckle will bump the safety on during recoil which is really annoying. I’m going to have my gunsmith install Atlas high ride safeties and see if that solves one problem.
After I got mine back from warranty work last week the beaver tail is a tad bit loose. It clicks and pops on the back strap where the “hooks” are and it meets the beaver tail. Yours have any play right there?
@@jwild5360 No mine is super solid right there. Your beaver tail has 2 little “ears” & they recess into the frame. Are they fully seated ?
@ I believe so if I take the pin out in the bottom and allow it to drip down 1/32nd it all becomes tight again.
The beaver tail itself just has a small amount of play in it now in all directions. If I grab it I can wiggle it around. It’s minimal but enough for the plastic to pop when pressed on
@ I just looked at mine & if I press on the beaver tail it will “pop” a little. But that’s because it’s pushing the hammer strut into the main spring. Totally normal. As long as the seams are all flush between the beaver tail, main spring housing & frame and as long as there’s not slop in your beaver tail, I think you’re good.
@ yea hasn’t caused an issue was just curious if any others were doing it after being taken apart and put back together
@ mine will pop. But I don’t think I would have noticed it if you didn’t point it out. So perhaps yours has more movement. If you want to send me a video I could get an idea if it’s the same as mine or worse.
Weaponcollective@gmail.com
Thanks!
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I own a P Heritage 4.15---- not quite understanding what Staccato means by "more reliable," etc etc--- the guts of the gun are nearly identical to any other of their line. Looks very difficult to field strip. And they didn't make any new armorer tools to get this done. I think I'll keep my P4.15 haha.
@@Article94 Yeah it’s 90% the same. As far as armorers tools go, it may be that I did it incorrectly & the basic tools would suffice. Honestly, that’s probably the case. LOL. But either way, you can’t go wrong with a 4.15”
very detail video
@@kzyt87 Thank you!
That gives me anxiety
@@pauls3333 Haha. Understandable
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