Sorry I can’t breathe in this video 😂😂 Link to the discord if interested in engaging with discussions like this: discord.gg/f2mpnM2g Just sharing some thoughts from a noob. What is your favorite part of the Warhammer universe? Can be anything. Side note: someone mentioned that Warhammer is like an open world filled with a bunch of detailed side quests - credit where credit is due
I have been a Son of the Lion & collected Dark Angels since '89. You will get this joke as the DA lore progresses. But do expect a few people to call you a traitor for following them. (Look up the Fall of Caliban in the lore. Short story, but you'll then get the joke). The lore is, for me, Easily the best thing about 40k. Plus it teaches us to be SUPER optimistic during the worst time. What's that Dr, I have stage 4 cancer. At least it's not Nurgles rot. I have an any infestation.better that having the nids pop by. Also as a sidenote. Yes, you are Alpharius
Ya said you weee gonna start painting the models… painting tutorials, kit bash tutorials and forward planning are your friends. Since ya have space marine 2 you could also work out your chapter’s color scheme by playing around in the character creator. Before that there were like print outs for you to work out your color scheme but space marine 2 is probably way easier. Hope that helps.
The books I think, and how they all begin to interconnect - but the minis and the games (video and tabletop) are great too :) A love for the lore makes the minis and games better.
@@fozzbot2896 Tough question. I give it to Garro by a slight degree in a lethal fight just because of Libertas, that sword is bonkers. In a sparring cage without Libertas Loken just barely beats Garro, they are equal in skill I would say, just Loken is better at combat improvisation.
If you travel, or have a longer drive to work, I would suggest audio books. The Black Library has quite a few to select from, and they are awesome. I listen to them when I paint, travel, or do housework.
eisenhorn is great, noir detective story, of the "fall" of a good man. amazingly written considering its almost completely from the protagonists POV. and it gives insight to those who wield absolute power in the Imperium. Gaunts Ghosts is incredible, in particular the first 3 arcs, its band of brothers in space full of amazing characters, battles, stealth missions, Colm, "try again" Brag, McKall, Emel, Cuu and the titular gaunt. wins and loses, heroism and sacrifice, laughter and tears. Ciaphas Cain are the easiest to read and most "Light-hearted" and genuinely fun and funny, its the tale of the unwilling "Hero of the Imperium" and told mostly from his pov as he is a self-confessed coward (although according to the inqusitor who is editing cains personal diary routinely points out he gives himself too little credit) where he and his trustly sidekick Gunner Jurgen whilst cleverly side stepping always manage to find something even more dangerous and save the day (mostly) thus thrusting his reputation through the roof as the Hero they already believe him to be and hand him more and more wild suicide missions. easily the best start imho as you have cain explaining whats going on in his immediate surroundings but also the inquisitor dropping in larger context in foot notes. think of Blackadder goes forth. Blackadder = Cain and Baldrik = gunner Jurgen, Captain Darling = the company commander who Knows cain is a coward but just cant prove it.2 great omnibus are Hero/Defender of the Imperium. if you like Ultra Marines their best work is Uriel Ventris books, the Ultra marines are the "By the book" Marines and by "book" i mean the literal codex Astartes, and their tale is of the "Troublesome 4th" company who seem to deviate from the codex and are looked down upon by the rest of teh Ultra Marines companies. because winning means nothing if the codex is not followed. my personal favorite would be Aaron Demski-bowen Nightlord Trilogy, they are murderers and cowards, Criminals and heroes, terrifying and terrified. if you want to delve into chaos marines i would start here, again amazing characters well written, and as horrible as the Nightlords are, most leave the humans to live their lives (in slavery ofcourse, but many seem better of than those in the same position in the imperium) starting with Horus heresy if not the way to go (the first 4 books are a solid arc then you can pick and choose from the next 60!) but Welcome to the Galaxy, find a good place to watch it Burn!
Warhammer is a story of tragedy. The tragedy of noble men and woman dying in unremembered battles and there deeds and honour being unrecorded. Of good people being lost and having no way to recover and yet despite that trying all the same to live.
I really enjoy going with you on this journey of discovery into the WH40K universe. I am 55 and I have been playing/collecting/reading 40K since 1992 (second edition I believe) and I totally understand where you are coming from. Enjoy the journey.
No sweat. I collected and painted minis for 15-20 years and played a sum total of two battles in my life. Rarely did i come across someone who was so gripped by a story. Welcome and happy new year my man.
1:17 You are approaching it with a good mindset! One of the great things about getting into 40k now is you can enjoy the setting right now for exactly what it is. Something I struggle with, as a fan who's been up to his eyebrows in it for a good 20 years now is anchoring bias- there's every chance that you're more adaptable than I am, but man some days I struggle appreciate a lot of the new developments on their own merits. A hell of a lot has changed in that time, the setting itself has fundamentally changed, as has the perspective on it and the "recommended reading list". A lot of days when it comes to 40k I feel like that one uncle that's stuck in the glory days of high school and just never really grew past that; it's super cool for you, though, to not have all that baggage amd be able to plumb the depths of the franchise without tripping over your own feet because "back in my day, Necrons were mindless unkillable murder drones" or "of course Cadia stands! It's been a contested planet for years and is a permanent stalemate!" or "what do you mean the Primaris are just the default Space Marines now?" Not being tied to an understanding of the setting from decades ago is a blessing, and now is an excellent time to be getting into 40k!
What I appreciate about the books is that they have actually got me reading again. I only got into Warhammer this year, and I hadn't read a book in YEARS but now I am reading again which is definitely good for me.
Love this. I was into 40k when I was a kid, had an Eldar & Harlequin army, still have my original Rogue Trader book, but then I got older and moved on to music. Well I got back in right before Covid and this is exactly how I felt. That was 5 years ago and I’ve been thinking about 40k every day since. P.S. your starter box doesn’t HAVE to be Ultras, you can start any chapter you want. It’s mostly in the paint scheme. You can even acquire special bits for different chapters, and add/swap them with the parts from your box.
I have been into Warhammer for well over a year now, and about same age as you. It is just such an endless treasure trove of stories, my god. And never too late to get into it
I’m an old neck beard when it comes to 40k, I bought first edition when it came out, just worked out I must have been 12 so Ive known this universe since the beginning! In that time though I’ve taken long breaks so I’ve missed out on so much lore! But anyway, would really recommend the tabletop side of things, and I know this sounds weird but even if you don’t ever end up playing, there is something so cool about making a faction your own,building up the models, having a force, knowing the heraldry, buying the codex, knowing the individual rules of that army, which gives you a way deeper understanding of them. You don’t have to be artsy to do the painting, in fact I’d say it’s much more technical and very relaxing. Just follow guides. You’ll always be able to find folks to play with though if you end up building a force but even if you don’t, having that army painted up will give you a real sense of connection to the world. Honestly the starter set isn’t really that useful. Pick a faction you really like. Buy a codex. Plan out the paints you will need, choose the painting guides you plan to follow to get your models ‘battle ready’ as in no fancy details, just the basic colours to start. Then, buy two units of there basic troops and a commander. There you have a starter army! Use the codex to plan out around 2000 points of your future purchases. So you got your plan for the first year in the hobby! It will make sense later don’t worry. But that’s it, get that commander and two first units painted! See how you feel!
You’re correct that Horus Rising is probably not the greatest first book, but I know others who started there and it clicked for them by the time the second act started :) looking forward to the full book report ;)
Warhammer does that, it makes you want to know more and more. I would say the first 4 books are a must and after that it’s up to you. I do envy you finding all this for the first time lol. Don’t rush and expect too much with the painting as it’s a journey. My first models looked like the memes that are out there
I'm not a natural painter. But I've learned that it really is a learnable skill. GW makes it very easy to just follow along- which brushes to use for what; what the process is; and of course which paints to buy. Get a Codex book for an army and look at the their iconography. All those numbers and colors on the shoulder pads have a meaning; the honor badges, and even the color of seargents' helmets have a meaning. It's quite fun to dig into all that. The thing is you have to enjoy it. The process itself has to be what's enjoyable. it's very Zen, and very rewarding. The army you paint is *yours*. Do it. Try it. Accept that you'll suck at first because you will. That's fine. If you had fun you'll just get better without even thinking about it.
I have been in this rabbit hole for a couple of years. Brother, I suggest you try out playing a tabletop game or watch a tournament or something. There are a lot of them out there. Warhammer can get really expensive really quickly, be it books, minis, games, etc. For the sake of your wallet, brother, find somebody who is your favourite or three. I'm glad to have you on board.
Audio books are the way to go my friend. Horus Rising, False Gods, Galaxy in flames, Flight of The Eisenstein and Fulgrim are the crucial first 5 books that will get you started. Amazing voice acting
As someone who isnt artsy aswell but also started this hobby late, but i liked building models when i was a kid. i can tell you that its so worth paiting your own army just beacuse it makes it yours, yeah sure you might not be the best in the behinning but it is still so worth it. Oh and a tip i will give you when starting painting, maybe just get one extra model that is the first one you paint. and you save him just to later on when things feel like your not progressing, then look at him and you will have prof there how far you have come and it will feel better and also nostalic when you see him
I started the lore and finally got myself some models at age 37 😅 it's never too late to jump in, I ran out of drinking buddies and thought I should do something creative. Painting mini's is daunting at 1st, I'd recommend looking at the factions and choosing your favourite for lore / looks and grab a troop box. I chose tyranids as my 1st choice, but wanted a 2nd to play at home, in the end I picked gsc for the lore connection and with the cult being allowed to have ¼ guard the thought of quickly having 3 500 point forces was great. After 80 roughly painted guard troops, I had confidence and enough control to paint my gsc to an alright standard I'm happy with
Love the passion brother. Don't worry, 40k rabbit hole sucks us all in. We are all in trouble with how much awesome there is attached to this universe. Also, show us your joytoys. Lol
I remember being at this stage in the obsession journey a couple years ago. I was driving a lot for work, and I would plug my phone audio in and listen to Leutin videos with my phone in the cupholder. Highly recommended.
Im very happy you're loving this universe we have all fallen in love with. As a fee comments said, I'd start looking more in-depth stuff, I'd say luetin, the remembrancer, 40k theories maybe. Some of these would maybe be good just listening to or watching on your own time. As a recommendation for a book, if you're looking for imperial guard the books that got me into warhammer in general were rebel winter and 15 hours. Then my all time favorite 40k book is helsreach which has a animated movie of it on TH-cam.
Whatever your favorite faction is, start with their books, if they are space marines the codex and books on their primarchs are good starts. I am a ride or die Blood Angels fan, and have every piece of lore on them I can. The Devastation of Ball is one of the most important battles in the current timeline and depicts one of the greatest gatherings and battles of space marines since the heresy. Even to those who don't like blood angels or loyalist, there is so much in there from khorne to the tyranids fighting in one of the most vital parts of the Imperium. Highly recommend!
i need to read up on that lore blood angels were my first army before i defected to the blacktemplars with codex Armageddon most of what happened to baal in books?
@@Guardsmen4 devastation of ball covers most of what happens on the planet, but to get a full history picture I recommend the book Dante first. It will give from Commander Dante's perspective the history of the chapter and a great many details on the Ball system itself
Painting minis - you're on exactly the right train of thought. The latest paint systems are great, but the techniques and the actual painting are a skill that follows the the great truism 'practice is the basis of improvement'. Brush control comes with practice. Techniques come with practice. The improvement you will see over just a few minis will be your reward, not a perfect mini at the first attempt. Also, particularly as a beginner it's worth noting that transfers of Chapter and unit markings are entirely valid and effective. Freehanding high detail is an advanced skill. Your starter set is a great introduction, with the easiest kits to assemble and paint. They're generic models without specific markings so pick your Chapter and go your way. Ultramarines are great, but if you're leaning towards Dark Angels then Dark Green marines are perfectly suited to the starter set too.
If you are worried about never painting a miniature before, I would look up the Slap Chop method of painting minis. It's basically using grisaille dry bryshing with contrast paints to make for an easier painting experience, especially for beginners. The other "easy" method might be to prime your mini's in white and use dark contrast paints only so you get a broad range of colors naturally. Trust me, it's way easier to get into the painting side of the hobby these days than when I started painting Wood Elves for Warhammer Fantasy in the 90's.
The best books of the Horus Heresy are amazing, but I agree not the best books to start with. Eisenhorn is probably better, it will still drop in a lot of lore terms, but is an overall more "general" sci-fi novel. Welcome to the family mate!
It is never too late to get started with 40k. Enjoy your journey. Regarding the books, I personally don´t think that there is something like optimal starting book for 40. Imagine it more like a complex spiderweb which you travel along and that gets more clear the further you walk. There will always be stuff that is not clear or new, but the more you read and learn, the more clear things get.
Maximizing your lore time is the only way. And like others have said, audio is the only feasible way as a busy adult haha. Everywhere I drive I put on an audio book or lore video.
I believe that first little bit of the book is intended to be a little confusing design. As it unravels it becomes more clear. Even people familiar with the lore were a little thrown off at first so don't worry.
I've read a lot of 40k novels as well as the Horus Heresy. For a noob Horus Rising is not the best to start with. For the Space marines a great book would be Storm of Iron which deals with the Chaos legion of the Iron Warriors invading an Imperial world taking on regular gaurdsmen bolstered by a company of Imperial Fists. The story looks at the conflict from the Chaos and the Imperial side which was really nice to see, and is written by one of the top authors at GW. Another series of books which is my personal favourite is the ones involving Commissar Caiphas Cain. Hes a sort of a self serving character that gets himself into life threatening situations but comes out of them smelling of roses and ending up being a hero of the imperium without meaning to. All he wants to do is serve the Emperor but behind the frontlines and out of danger. But because hes been lucky in previous conflicts he is considered a hero and therefore gets thrusts into dangerous missions wether he likes it or not. He knows that if he refuses these assignments he loses his reputation for being an exemplary warrior. The Imperial Gaurd regiment he is attached to is one of the very few mixed sex regimemts of the Imperium, which can lead to various amusing interactions. Other than that you cannot go wrong with Gaunt's Ghosts.
I recommend trying painting minis, when you love the army/faction you like and play, you eill have motivation to do it good. There are many tutorials on youtube on how to paint them. And thin the paints.
Just because the prices of plastic minis i could never get myself to spend money on grey gold. What I did yesterday was I put money down on the "BambuLab 3d printer A1 mini" it's normally 299 minus 100 on sale + taxes & shipping =228.98 and an estimated delivery ship date of March 7 Max size I'll be able to print will be 7in cubed. it even has an upgrade that allows up to 4 filaments types/colors to be used in a single print without having to manually switching mid print. I'm very excited to be starting two hobbies 3d printing and miniature collection/painting in one go for the low cost 2-3 large miniature sets or a single Titan model and sure I'll have to print it in many pieces but I'm sure I can find and buy a 3d file set for even my smaller printer and I'll be able to alter it using software at the source since i don't plan on playing the game it's only for my shelves online boasting lol
If you want to pick up a fun mini the youruber major kill has his own line of models and one of them is the red wake figured since you've shown interest in him might be a fun pick up for your fist mini😊
Painting wise, there are a ton of youtubers doing painting vids as well as GW making thier own. PeachyTips is good for new comers. Some people paint "just good enough" to get them on the table others make it an art form (honestly, check out some of the high end jobs). For me, I find painting theraputic and a great way of switching off. So long as you enjoy it, you're painting right.
Hey man, considering your stance, I would probably lay it all out like so: Both Horus Heresy and the current 40k setting have both good and "less good" works. The trick is knowing where to look. For a first book: Gaunt's Ghosts is probably the easiest to understand when it comes to 40k lore. After a book from this series, pick Ultramarines: Nightbringer by Graham Mcneill and then followed by the incredible trilogy of Night Lords books. That trilogy seems daunting but it's so well written that you just understand what's going on. The only thing you have to do with the NL trilogy, is watch a video on who Konrad Kurze was and what his philosophy entailed. I would strongly recommend the Amber King's video on it, but his video's are very long. Over 2 hours in this case. There are few better narrators in this hobby though. After this, a small (tldr) of the Red Corsairs and what a "Navigator" is, and you're good to go. (It's one of the books I read first myself. Eisenhorn I would probably do either at this point or later, cause as amazing as that series is, you get more from it when you understand the universe a bit better. Now, back to the Horus Heresy -> For the Heresy, the golden works are: 1. Horus Rising 2. False Gods 3. Galaxy in Flames 4. Flight of the Eisenstein 5. Fulgrim 6. Mechanicum 7. Legion 8 Angel Externinatus 9. First Heretic 10. Know No Fear 11. Betrayer 12. Brotherhoof of the Storm/Scars 12. Path of Heaven After that it's pretty much the Siege. Now, you can add more books in that Heresy rotation, but I myself consider these the essential books. You should read 1 through 4 in order and after that you can go your own merry way through them. Sorry for that wall of text man, but hope this at least helps you somewhat haha.
Additional vote for the audio books..! HH books are amazing but very in depth.. so in depth I would agree its not a good way to intro yourself into black libary novels! I would suggest either gaunts Ghosts (guardsmen) or Eisenhorn (inquisitor) for a less lofty more down to earth read or listen!
When Dark Angles are interesting to you, pick up “Descend of Angels” from the Horus Heresy 😉 DONT WORRY, you don’t skip anything (the book jumps back to the events before Horus rising anyway). It’s a much more “traditional” written book, does a lot of explaining and is the best introduction to the 1st legion I could think of. 😊
Unfortunately, there is no 'issue #1' in 40K. There isn't a single starting point, and the first few books will ALWAYS be a bit confusing. My advice is just to stick at it, and by the third book things will start to make sense. A lot of 40K lore isn't in the specific events, but the relationships between them. Keep going, even if you feel you only get 60% of it. It will start to make a lot more sense quickly. The Alpha Legion stuff is fun because nobody really knows their motives.... or even really what side they are on. There is a story that they only support Chaos to preserve humanity.... Something you should be aware of, is that this is a golden age for 40K. Nothing in 40K is 'gone', especially in the lore, and joining later just means that everything is here to discover. Until just a few years ago, most 40K games were not great, and most 40K media was amateur. It's only the last 2-3 years that 40K has broken the mainstream, Space Marine 2 surprised everyone, Astartes and Secret Level are sudden hits. All of this was just last year.
You honestly joined at a pretty good time, 40k had grown pretty stagnant (not bad by any means but nothing big was really going on) for over a decade until a a few years ago when the new lore started. tho on the other hand you didn't grow up with stuff like Cadia being around so it being blown up doesn't hit as hard, Cadia Stands.
To be honest, i tried hearing the horus heresy. And after some 10 books i were burnt out. Epic scale backstabbing, doom and gloom. If you point at a hero, the hero end's up dead. On the other hand i liked the eisenhorn trilogy
There are a ton of starting points, but imo to help take the edge off that "I'm lost" feeling I recommend diving into a few videos that cover subjects in semi broad details. The rule books have chapters dedicated to giving the players and overview of the universe, but since you're not in the game (yet?) Videos is your best bet
@dpatriot4130 audio books are also the best because you get to hear how things are pronounced and in some cases the way certain people and races speak it can be exhausting to read... T'au for example imo are a case of that.
You'll absolutely improve with the mini painting if you stick at it. The first few models might be disappointing, but with each one you'll learn what works and what doesn't, there's also plenty of online guides (both in written and video form) to learn from too. Its also worth noting that while Games Workshop sell paints, brushes, and glue, they tend to overcharge, so do a little shopping around with other brands to get a better deal. Personally, I never quite got into the actual tabletop game due to not having friends who were interested in playing, but I do love to build and paint the models. Warhammer audiobooks make for a great accompaniment to a painting session. Horus Rising is a fantastic book, but I agree that it's maybe not the best starting point for a complete beginner. Having said that, I'm not sure which would be. For myself my first 40k book was Graham McNeill's Ultramarines series (more specifically the first omnibus that included the first 3 novels of the series), but even then I had to stop reading occasionally to look up what things were. They're well-written but fairly straightforward Space Marine war stories on a smaller scale than anything seen in the Horus Heresy. I'd also recommend Helsreach by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. Again nothing quite on the scale of Horus Rising, but its got Space Marines, Guardsmen, Sisters of Battle, Titans, Orks and more. I think its a great depiction of the Imperium at war. There's also a fan-made movie of Helsreach originally made by Richard Boylan on TH-cam. It was made by abbreviating from the audiobook version and then animating the story to match the audio.
I feel like doing Luetin09s playlist of videos will give you all the background you need to understand the universe and enjoy most of if not all the books. Just watch each factions deep dive into how they work from him and then from there pick what sounds interesting or fun to you from his videos.
first bookes to read are eisenhorn, gaunts ghosts, ciaphus cain. in 40k in fantasy the gotrek and felix books in dark future all of the dark future books, if you want to go DEEP into the 40k lore, most new people dont go as deep into the lore as the dark future novels if you dont like to read i recommend the audio books for all except the dark future books which i dont believe have audio versions. but you have to be a real dedicated fan to read the dark future novels as the timeline in them is 1985-2025. so not many lore nerds even know that it exists these days. but dark future is the deepest darkest part of the lore you can go, read those and your more knowledgeable than many. buteisenhone and gaunts ghost are the best then ciaphus cain, but thats a comedy
They're all great books but I'd recommend the whole heresy series now they are all out, they really do set up the landscape of why the 41st millennium and why its so messed up, plus the introduction of chaos, pre fall primarch lore, emperor lore etc
@@dpatriot4130 the First Saint Ollanius Pius, protector of the Imperial Creed, symbol of defiance and courage of the Imperial Guard, the myth, the legend, the man who stood in defense of the Emperor before Horus fatal blow.
Audiobooks man majority of them are so good, for me personally I started with Helsreach which does have an animated shorter version on youtube. But I had the same problem a character would say something in reference and id be thinking I dont know what that is and personally i would just stop and pull up the wiki page for that one thing just so I had a rough knowledge of it going forward
Welcome to the hobby brother, ive loved Warhammer for over 25yrs now and its still my favourite hobby/sci fi universe. Absolutely try painting, its not as daunting as it seems once you learn a few basic skills. The Horus Hersey books are amazing but absolutely not a good starting point to go into the lore cold.
Want another universe that is equally deep and mad? SCP Foundation. (Isander and Koda said that Venn diagram of WH40k fans and SCP fans is basically an oval)
Second trying eisenhorn. Try reading that. Or gaunts ghosts. Basically the author Dan abnett is the best one in my opinion, nearly everything by him is great. Eisenhorn is a good starter though, same with gaunts ghosts, because in my opinion you can enjoy them without knowing much at all.
Just started collecting oh... 6 months ago? Have almost 1000 points rn, but kind of a hodge podge, nothing really coherent. If i had a bigger budget? Oh man... there'd be no stopping me
I feel in the rabbit hole when Star Wars started to go down hill. Needed something to fill the gap and boy did 40k do it. After watching astartes I had to look for more. Sadly there use to be a lot more fan animation till GamesWorkshop did a purge lost a lot of good talent.
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Horus Heresy is the best this new lore books in most their are $hit
@@dpatriot4130Your mileage may vary. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Necrons being humanized, but a lot of folks find it both incredibly charming and existentially horrifying. The only way to know is to read (or listen to) it for yourself.
LOL LMFAO ROTF I had not noticed you were remotely into WARHAMMER 40K,,, JK There are so many Mini games out there, that do not cost so much as WARHAMMER. Warhammer have become a CASH GRAB, no longer the game it once was. The company is starting to loose ground and could begin to fall from grace. I use to play it back in the early 90s, back then they didnot place requirements on Retail shops to carry their game, now they do.
Horus Rising is not a good first book to read, yes. In general, Horus Heresy books are not particularly good, and have general problem of taking what was mythos and scattered history and bringing it in focus, when it really should not be. On more global level, it has almost no editorial oversight, and written by bunch of authors, which leads to characterization of characters varying wildly depending on skill and biases of a particular writer. Best places to start, and i'm very much not the first to say it is Eisenhorn series and Ciaphas Cain series.
Dont think about this like you missed the hobby for long, think it more like you are lucky, because you are entering the hobby in its peak time, literally and figuratly because of all the lore and media oncoming things like films and tv shows etc, and the best part of a hobbie its the starting so enjoy it, dont rush it because no one nor me (15 years in) is capable of being a lore master in this, i like your videos and 40k, so keep up the good shit. AVE DOMINUS NOX
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Link to the discord if interested in engaging with discussions like this: discord.gg/f2mpnM2g
Just sharing some thoughts from a noob.
What is your favorite part of the Warhammer universe? Can be anything.
Side note: someone mentioned that Warhammer is like an open world filled with a bunch of detailed side quests - credit where credit is due
I have been a Son of the Lion & collected Dark Angels since '89. You will get this joke as the DA lore progresses. But do expect a few people to call you a traitor for following them. (Look up the Fall of Caliban in the lore. Short story, but you'll then get the joke).
The lore is, for me, Easily the best thing about 40k. Plus it teaches us to be SUPER optimistic during the worst time. What's that Dr, I have stage 4 cancer. At least it's not Nurgles rot. I have an any infestation.better that having the nids pop by.
Also as a sidenote. Yes, you are Alpharius
Ya said you weee gonna start painting the models… painting tutorials, kit bash tutorials and forward planning are your friends. Since ya have space marine 2 you could also work out your chapter’s color scheme by playing around in the character creator. Before that there were like print outs for you to work out your color scheme but space marine 2 is probably way easier. Hope that helps.
The books I think, and how they all begin to interconnect - but the minis and the games (video and tabletop) are great too :)
A love for the lore makes the minis and games better.
I can’t wait till you read a White scars book
Don’t worry about your painting be bad I started out bad as well and I’m still learning how to paint well
"I was there, that day when Horus slew the Emperor..."
Who wins in a fight , loken vs garro
I was there when Warhammer 40K killed his free time
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@@robsykes1491 haha this had me dying laughing
@@fozzbot2896 Tough question. I give it to Garro by a slight degree in a lethal fight just because of Libertas, that sword is bonkers. In a sparring cage without Libertas Loken just barely beats Garro, they are equal in skill I would say, just Loken is better at combat improvisation.
Welcome to the family Brother
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@@zwizzi1 How long do you think it'll be before he starts using Brothers & Sisters to talk to us all?
@@andrewmoss3681 i dont think it will take long
@@zwizzi1 I say a month at the top. Maybe an extra month before we hear "Sisters" added in there 😂
If you travel, or have a longer drive to work, I would suggest audio books. The Black Library has quite a few to select from, and they are awesome. I listen to them when I paint, travel, or do housework.
I second this! The audiobook narrators are awesome and gives so much extra atmosphere to the universe!
+1 this, I use audible to chunk my way through many 40k books while I am working.
@@UnexplainedHoveringSpheroid Audible is expensive though especially if you are getting all of the series ^^ There are other ways 🏴☠
The audio books are amazing. I listen to the audio books at work and at home.
eisenhorn is great, noir detective story, of the "fall" of a good man. amazingly written considering its almost completely from the protagonists POV. and it gives insight to those who wield absolute power in the Imperium.
Gaunts Ghosts is incredible, in particular the first 3 arcs, its band of brothers in space full of amazing characters, battles, stealth missions, Colm, "try again" Brag, McKall, Emel, Cuu and the titular gaunt. wins and loses, heroism and sacrifice, laughter and tears.
Ciaphas Cain are the easiest to read and most "Light-hearted" and genuinely fun and funny, its the tale of the unwilling "Hero of the Imperium" and told mostly from his pov as he is a self-confessed coward (although according to the inqusitor who is editing cains personal diary routinely points out he gives himself too little credit) where he and his trustly sidekick Gunner Jurgen whilst cleverly side stepping always manage to find something even more dangerous and save the day (mostly) thus thrusting his reputation through the roof as the Hero they already believe him to be and hand him more and more wild suicide missions. easily the best start imho as you have cain explaining whats going on in his immediate surroundings but also the inquisitor dropping in larger context in foot notes. think of Blackadder goes forth. Blackadder = Cain and Baldrik = gunner Jurgen, Captain Darling = the company commander who Knows cain is a coward but just cant prove it.2 great omnibus are Hero/Defender of the Imperium.
if you like Ultra Marines their best work is Uriel Ventris books, the Ultra marines are the "By the book" Marines and by "book" i mean the literal codex Astartes, and their tale is of the "Troublesome 4th" company who seem to deviate from the codex and are looked down upon by the rest of teh Ultra Marines companies. because winning means nothing if the codex is not followed.
my personal favorite would be Aaron Demski-bowen Nightlord Trilogy, they are murderers and cowards, Criminals and heroes, terrifying and terrified. if you want to delve into chaos marines i would start here, again amazing characters well written, and as horrible as the Nightlords are, most leave the humans to live their lives (in slavery ofcourse, but many seem better of than those in the same position in the imperium)
starting with Horus heresy if not the way to go (the first 4 books are a solid arc then you can pick and choose from the next 60!)
but Welcome to the Galaxy, find a good place to watch it Burn!
Warhammer is a story of tragedy. The tragedy of noble men and woman dying in unremembered battles and there deeds and honour being unrecorded.
Of good people being lost and having no way to recover and yet despite that trying all the same to live.
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You excitement is so infectious I need to jump back into this black hole of lore!
Hell ya lol!
I really enjoy going with you on this journey of discovery into the WH40K universe. I am 55 and I have been playing/collecting/reading 40K since 1992 (second edition I believe) and I totally understand where you are coming from. Enjoy the journey.
W40k has that effect, welcome to the Imperium, Brother! The Emperor protects.
Thank you!!!
Welcome to the hobby bub ❤ I'm 32 years into it and seeing people's face light up with the lore makes me smile 😊
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No sweat. I collected and painted minis for 15-20 years and played a sum total of two battles in my life.
Rarely did i come across someone who was so gripped by a story. Welcome and happy new year my man.
Same to you!
I finished Horus Rising last week over christmas time, absolutely love the book.
Dan Abnett is one of the GOATs for 40K, Aaron Demski-Bowden is up there with him
1:17 You are approaching it with a good mindset! One of the great things about getting into 40k now is you can enjoy the setting right now for exactly what it is. Something I struggle with, as a fan who's been up to his eyebrows in it for a good 20 years now is anchoring bias- there's every chance that you're more adaptable than I am, but man some days I struggle appreciate a lot of the new developments on their own merits. A hell of a lot has changed in that time, the setting itself has fundamentally changed, as has the perspective on it and the "recommended reading list".
A lot of days when it comes to 40k I feel like that one uncle that's stuck in the glory days of high school and just never really grew past that; it's super cool for you, though, to not have all that baggage amd be able to plumb the depths of the franchise without tripping over your own feet because "back in my day, Necrons were mindless unkillable murder drones" or "of course Cadia stands! It's been a contested planet for years and is a permanent stalemate!" or "what do you mean the Primaris are just the default Space Marines now?" Not being tied to an understanding of the setting from decades ago is a blessing, and now is an excellent time to be getting into 40k!
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What I appreciate about the books is that they have actually got me reading again. I only got into Warhammer this year, and I hadn't read a book in YEARS but now I am reading again which is definitely good for me.
Great point!
I am really enjoying your journey. I feel like I am rediscovering alot of this stuff with a friend who is geeking out. Keep it up!👏👏👏
Oh hell ya lol!
Love this. I was into 40k when I was a kid, had an Eldar & Harlequin army, still have my original Rogue Trader book, but then I got older and moved on to music. Well I got back in right before Covid and this is exactly how I felt. That was 5 years ago and I’ve been thinking about 40k every day since.
P.S. your starter box doesn’t HAVE to be Ultras, you can start any chapter you want. It’s mostly in the paint scheme. You can even acquire special bits for different chapters, and add/swap them with the parts from your box.
And I love this lol
I have been into Warhammer for well over a year now, and about same age as you. It is just such an endless treasure trove of stories, my god. And never too late to get into it
It’s so amazing!
Glad to see someone so deeply invested after such a short amount of time :D
I’m an old neck beard when it comes to 40k, I bought first edition when it came out, just worked out I must have been 12 so Ive known this universe since the beginning! In that time though I’ve taken long breaks so I’ve missed out on so much lore! But anyway, would really recommend the tabletop side of things, and I know this sounds weird but even if you don’t ever end up playing, there is something so cool about making a faction your own,building up the models, having a force, knowing the heraldry, buying the codex, knowing the individual rules of that army, which gives you a way deeper understanding of them. You don’t have to be artsy to do the painting, in fact I’d say it’s much more technical and very relaxing. Just follow guides. You’ll always be able to find folks to play with though if you end up building a force but even if you don’t, having that army painted up will give you a real sense of connection to the world. Honestly the starter set isn’t really that useful. Pick a faction you really like. Buy a codex. Plan out the paints you will need, choose the painting guides you plan to follow to get your models ‘battle ready’ as in no fancy details, just the basic colours to start. Then, buy two units of there basic troops and a commander. There you have a starter army! Use the codex to plan out around 2000 points of your future purchases. So you got your plan for the first year in the hobby! It will make sense later don’t worry. But that’s it, get that commander and two first units painted! See how you feel!
The post I was just about to write, thanks.
What got me into 40k was the dawn of war intro from 2004 ...time flies
Sure does
You’re correct that Horus Rising is probably not the greatest first book, but I know others who started there and it clicked for them by the time the second act started :) looking forward to the full book report ;)
Totally! Probably any WH40K book is going to be rare at the start, but I’m sure he is going to like the whole Loken’s story
Warhammer does that, it makes you want to know more and more. I would say the first 4 books are a must and after that it’s up to you. I do envy you finding all this for the first time lol. Don’t rush and expect too much with the painting as it’s a journey. My first models looked like the memes that are out there
I'm not a natural painter. But I've learned that it really is a learnable skill. GW makes it very easy to just follow along- which brushes to use for what; what the process is; and of course which paints to buy. Get a Codex book for an army and look at the their iconography. All those numbers and colors on the shoulder pads have a meaning; the honor badges, and even the color of seargents' helmets have a meaning. It's quite fun to dig into all that.
The thing is you have to enjoy it. The process itself has to be what's enjoyable. it's very Zen, and very rewarding. The army you paint is *yours*. Do it. Try it. Accept that you'll suck at first because you will. That's fine. If you had fun you'll just get better without even thinking about it.
I have been in this rabbit hole for a couple of years. Brother, I suggest you try out playing a tabletop game or watch a tournament or something. There are a lot of them out there. Warhammer can get really expensive really quickly, be it books, minis, games, etc. For the sake of your wallet, brother, find somebody who is your favourite or three. I'm glad to have you on board.
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Audio books are the way to go my friend. Horus Rising, False Gods, Galaxy in flames, Flight of The Eisenstein and Fulgrim are the crucial first 5 books that will get you started. Amazing voice acting
🤣😂🤣 & The new Initiate has just hurtled past sub level 35 of the Warhammer rabbit hole 😂 We ALL know the feeling D. Welcome to the group 🤘🏻😁
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As someone who isnt artsy aswell but also started this hobby late, but i liked building models when i was a kid. i can tell you that its so worth paiting your own army just beacuse it makes it yours, yeah sure you might not be the best in the behinning but it is still so worth it.
Oh and a tip i will give you when starting painting, maybe just get one extra model that is the first one you paint. and you save him just to later on when things feel like your not progressing, then look at him and you will have prof there how far you have come and it will feel better and also nostalic when you see him
as a slaaneshi and nurgle fan at heart,. i love STI's basically lol. there is no heresy only papa nurgles love and slaaneshes special "love"
Embrace chaos ❤
I started the lore and finally got myself some models at age 37 😅 it's never too late to jump in, I ran out of drinking buddies and thought I should do something creative. Painting mini's is daunting at 1st, I'd recommend looking at the factions and choosing your favourite for lore / looks and grab a troop box. I chose tyranids as my 1st choice, but wanted a 2nd to play at home, in the end I picked gsc for the lore connection and with the cult being allowed to have ¼ guard the thought of quickly having 3 500 point forces was great. After 80 roughly painted guard troops, I had confidence and enough control to paint my gsc to an alright standard I'm happy with
Love the passion brother. Don't worry, 40k rabbit hole sucks us all in. We are all in trouble with how much awesome there is attached to this universe. Also, show us your joytoys. Lol
I’m waiting on three more to arrive lol I may do this truck video again next week 😂
I remember being at this stage in the obsession journey a couple years ago. I was driving a lot for work, and I would plug my phone audio in and listen to Leutin videos with my phone in the cupholder. Highly recommended.
Here's a fun thought, is there anyway to prove that the warhammer universe is not an accidental accurate prediction of the future?
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Im very happy you're loving this universe we have all fallen in love with. As a fee comments said, I'd start looking more in-depth stuff, I'd say luetin, the remembrancer, 40k theories maybe. Some of these would maybe be good just listening to or watching on your own time. As a recommendation for a book, if you're looking for imperial guard the books that got me into warhammer in general were rebel winter and 15 hours. Then my all time favorite 40k book is helsreach which has a animated movie of it on TH-cam.
Thank you, M
Oh yeah. I've been been binging the audio books at work, at home and on the road.
Whatever your favorite faction is, start with their books, if they are space marines the codex and books on their primarchs are good starts.
I am a ride or die Blood Angels fan, and have every piece of lore on them I can. The Devastation of Ball is one of the most important battles in the current timeline and depicts one of the greatest gatherings and battles of space marines since the heresy. Even to those who don't like blood angels or loyalist, there is so much in there from khorne to the tyranids fighting in one of the most vital parts of the Imperium. Highly recommend!
i need to read up on that lore blood angels were my first army before i defected to the blacktemplars with codex Armageddon most of what happened to baal in books?
@@Guardsmen4 devastation of ball covers most of what happens on the planet, but to get a full history picture I recommend the book Dante first. It will give from Commander Dante's perspective the history of the chapter and a great many details on the Ball system itself
@@GreenLandTurd thanks
You need to start deep dives on the different factions. You'll just keep learning the surface level stuff from beginners guides.
Agreed
Painting minis - you're on exactly the right train of thought. The latest paint systems are great, but the techniques and the actual painting are a skill that follows the the great truism 'practice is the basis of improvement'.
Brush control comes with practice. Techniques come with practice. The improvement you will see over just a few minis will be your reward, not a perfect mini at the first attempt.
Also, particularly as a beginner it's worth noting that transfers of Chapter and unit markings are entirely valid and effective. Freehanding high detail is an advanced skill.
Your starter set is a great introduction, with the easiest kits to assemble and paint. They're generic models without specific markings so pick your Chapter and go your way. Ultramarines are great, but if you're leaning towards Dark Angels then Dark Green marines are perfectly suited to the starter set too.
It may seem that way, but it’s easily the best place to start. I’ve had many people get into the hobby this way
the codices are probably the best starting place for lore (other than youtube) imo. They give you the gist of the faction without going too deep.
Or just a core rulebook, they cover all factions
Any questions you have feel free to ask us :) is there a channel discord?
Thanks! Yes: discord.gg/MARUmEMk
If you are worried about never painting a miniature before, I would look up the Slap Chop method of painting minis. It's basically using grisaille dry bryshing with contrast paints to make for an easier painting experience, especially for beginners.
The other "easy" method might be to prime your mini's in white and use dark contrast paints only so you get a broad range of colors naturally.
Trust me, it's way easier to get into the painting side of the hobby these days than when I started painting Wood Elves for Warhammer Fantasy in the 90's.
Thank you for this!
i always prime white no exceptions my father would roll in his grave if i did anything thing else
The best books of the Horus Heresy are amazing, but I agree not the best books to start with.
Eisenhorn is probably better, it will still drop in a lot of lore terms, but is an overall more "general" sci-fi novel.
Welcome to the family mate!
Thank you!
It is never too late to get started with 40k. Enjoy your journey.
Regarding the books, I personally don´t think that there is something like optimal starting book for 40. Imagine it more like a complex spiderweb which you travel along and that gets more clear the further you walk. There will always be stuff that is not clear or new, but the more you read and learn, the more clear things get.
Im at the third book of the Horus Heresy series (Galaxy In Flames). Love it so far
Nicely done!
I would highly recommend listen to the first 3 books of the horus heresy series via audiobook as they have the same narrator who does a superb job
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Maximizing your lore time is the only way. And like others have said, audio is the only feasible way as a busy adult haha.
Everywhere I drive I put on an audio book or lore video.
I believe that first little bit of the book is intended to be a little confusing design. As it unravels it becomes more clear. Even people familiar with the lore were a little thrown off at first so don't worry.
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I've read a lot of 40k novels as well as the Horus Heresy. For a noob Horus Rising is not the best to start with. For the Space marines a great book would be Storm of Iron which deals with the Chaos legion of the Iron Warriors invading an Imperial world taking on regular gaurdsmen bolstered by a company of Imperial Fists. The story looks at the conflict from the Chaos and the Imperial side which was really nice to see, and is written by one of the top authors at GW. Another series of books which is my personal favourite is the ones involving Commissar Caiphas Cain. Hes a sort of a self serving character that gets himself into life threatening situations but comes out of them smelling of roses and ending up being a hero of the imperium without meaning to. All he wants to do is serve the Emperor but behind the frontlines and out of danger. But because hes been lucky in previous conflicts he is considered a hero and therefore gets thrusts into dangerous missions wether he likes it or not. He knows that if he refuses these assignments he loses his reputation for being an exemplary warrior. The Imperial Gaurd regiment he is attached to is one of the very few mixed sex regimemts of the Imperium, which can lead to various amusing interactions. Other than that you cannot go wrong with Gaunt's Ghosts.
Great recommendations. Thank you!
I recommend trying painting minis, when you love the army/faction you like and play, you eill have motivation to do it good. There are many tutorials on youtube on how to paint them. And thin the paints.
Just because the prices of plastic minis i could never get myself to spend money on grey gold.
What I did yesterday was I put money down on the "BambuLab 3d printer A1 mini" it's normally 299 minus 100 on sale + taxes & shipping =228.98 and an estimated delivery ship date of March 7
Max size I'll be able to print will be 7in cubed. it even has an upgrade that allows up to 4 filaments types/colors to be used in a single print without having to manually switching mid print.
I'm very excited to be starting two hobbies 3d printing and miniature collection/painting in one go for the low cost 2-3 large miniature sets or a single Titan model and sure I'll have to print it in many pieces but I'm sure I can find and buy a 3d file set for even my smaller printer and I'll be able to alter it using software at the source since i don't plan on playing the game it's only for my shelves online boasting lol
Look into fulgrim getting roasted by jaghtai. Fulgrim was getting cocky and jaghtai roast the crap out of him primarch beef.
If you want to pick up a fun mini the youruber major kill has his own line of models and one of them is the red wake figured since you've shown interest in him might be a fun pick up for your fist mini😊
Oh hell ya!
Painting wise, there are a ton of youtubers doing painting vids as well as GW making thier own. PeachyTips is good for new comers. Some people paint "just good enough" to get them on the table others make it an art form (honestly, check out some of the high end jobs). For me, I find painting theraputic and a great way of switching off.
So long as you enjoy it, you're painting right.
Hey man, considering your stance, I would probably lay it all out like so:
Both Horus Heresy and the current 40k setting have both good and "less good" works.
The trick is knowing where to look.
For a first book:
Gaunt's Ghosts is probably the easiest to understand when it comes to 40k lore.
After a book from this series, pick Ultramarines: Nightbringer by Graham Mcneill and then followed by the incredible trilogy of Night Lords books. That trilogy seems daunting but it's so well written that you just understand what's going on.
The only thing you have to do with the NL trilogy, is watch a video on who Konrad Kurze was and what his philosophy entailed. I would strongly recommend the Amber King's video on it, but his video's are very long. Over 2 hours in this case. There are few better narrators in this hobby though.
After this, a small (tldr) of the Red Corsairs and what a "Navigator" is, and you're good to go. (It's one of the books I read first myself.
Eisenhorn I would probably do either at this point or later, cause as amazing as that series is, you get more from it when you understand the universe a bit better.
Now, back to the Horus Heresy ->
For the Heresy, the golden works are:
1. Horus Rising
2. False Gods
3. Galaxy in Flames
4. Flight of the Eisenstein
5. Fulgrim
6. Mechanicum
7. Legion
8 Angel Externinatus
9. First Heretic
10. Know No Fear
11. Betrayer
12. Brotherhoof of the Storm/Scars
12. Path of Heaven
After that it's pretty much the Siege. Now, you can add more books in that Heresy rotation, but I myself consider these the essential books. You should read 1 through 4 in order and after that you can go your own merry way through them.
Sorry for that wall of text man, but hope this at least helps you somewhat haha.
Additional vote for the audio books..!
HH books are amazing but very in depth.. so in depth I would agree its not a good way to intro yourself into black libary novels!
I would suggest either gaunts Ghosts (guardsmen) or Eisenhorn (inquisitor) for a less lofty more down to earth read or listen!
When Dark Angles are interesting to you, pick up “Descend of Angels” from the Horus Heresy 😉 DONT WORRY, you don’t skip anything (the book jumps back to the events before Horus rising anyway). It’s a much more “traditional” written book, does a lot of explaining and is the best introduction to the 1st legion I could think of. 😊
Ooooh, awesome!
Unfortunately, there is no 'issue #1' in 40K. There isn't a single starting point, and the first few books will ALWAYS be a bit confusing. My advice is just to stick at it, and by the third book things will start to make sense. A lot of 40K lore isn't in the specific events, but the relationships between them. Keep going, even if you feel you only get 60% of it. It will start to make a lot more sense quickly.
The Alpha Legion stuff is fun because nobody really knows their motives.... or even really what side they are on. There is a story that they only support Chaos to preserve humanity....
Something you should be aware of, is that this is a golden age for 40K. Nothing in 40K is 'gone', especially in the lore, and joining later just means that everything is here to discover. Until just a few years ago, most 40K games were not great, and most 40K media was amateur. It's only the last 2-3 years that 40K has broken the mainstream, Space Marine 2 surprised everyone, Astartes and Secret Level are sudden hits. All of this was just last year.
Good stuff here!
You honestly joined at a pretty good time, 40k had grown pretty stagnant (not bad by any means but nothing big was really going on) for over a decade until a a few years ago when the new lore started.
tho on the other hand you didn't grow up with stuff like Cadia being around so it being blown up doesn't hit as hard, Cadia Stands.
Also being older is nicer because more money to spend lol I’m in that boat as a new 33year old player hahah
True that
And that's just 40k. There is still fantasy(which is where I first started and stayed with until the end times) and Age of Sigmar. More rabbit holes!
To be honest, i tried hearing the horus heresy. And after some 10 books i were burnt out. Epic scale backstabbing, doom and gloom. If you point at a hero, the hero end's up dead.
On the other hand i liked the eisenhorn trilogy
There are a ton of starting points, but imo to help take the edge off that "I'm lost" feeling I recommend diving into a few videos that cover subjects in semi broad details.
The rule books have chapters dedicated to giving the players and overview of the universe, but since you're not in the game (yet?) Videos is your best bet
Absolutely agree. This is the best part. It’s an overwhelmingly positive experience
@dpatriot4130 audio books are also the best because you get to hear how things are pronounced and in some cases the way certain people and races speak it can be exhausting to read... T'au for example imo are a case of that.
You'll absolutely improve with the mini painting if you stick at it. The first few models might be disappointing, but with each one you'll learn what works and what doesn't, there's also plenty of online guides (both in written and video form) to learn from too. Its also worth noting that while Games Workshop sell paints, brushes, and glue, they tend to overcharge, so do a little shopping around with other brands to get a better deal. Personally, I never quite got into the actual tabletop game due to not having friends who were interested in playing, but I do love to build and paint the models. Warhammer audiobooks make for a great accompaniment to a painting session. Horus Rising is a fantastic book, but I agree that it's maybe not the best starting point for a complete beginner. Having said that, I'm not sure which would be. For myself my first 40k book was Graham McNeill's Ultramarines series (more specifically the first omnibus that included the first 3 novels of the series), but even then I had to stop reading occasionally to look up what things were. They're well-written but fairly straightforward Space Marine war stories on a smaller scale than anything seen in the Horus Heresy. I'd also recommend Helsreach by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. Again nothing quite on the scale of Horus Rising, but its got Space Marines, Guardsmen, Sisters of Battle, Titans, Orks and more. I think its a great depiction of the Imperium at war. There's also a fan-made movie of Helsreach originally made by Richard Boylan on TH-cam. It was made by abbreviating from the audiobook version and then animating the story to match the audio.
Great comment! Thank you
I feel like doing Luetin09s playlist of videos will give you all the background you need to understand the universe and enjoy most of if not all the books. Just watch each factions deep dive into how they work from him and then from there pick what sounds interesting or fun to you from his videos.
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first bookes to read are eisenhorn, gaunts ghosts, ciaphus cain. in 40k
in fantasy the gotrek and felix books
in dark future all of the dark future books, if you want to go DEEP into the 40k lore, most new people dont go as deep into the lore as the dark future novels if you dont like to read i recommend the audio books for all except the dark future books which i dont believe have audio versions. but you have to be a real dedicated fan to read the dark future novels as the timeline in them is 1985-2025. so not many lore nerds even know that it exists these days. but dark future is the deepest darkest part of the lore you can go, read those and your more knowledgeable than many.
buteisenhone and gaunts ghost are the best then ciaphus cain, but thats a comedy
They're all great books but I'd recommend the whole heresy series now they are all out, they really do set up the landscape of why the 41st millennium and why its so messed up, plus the introduction of chaos, pre fall primarch lore, emperor lore etc
Dark future is its own separate canon I thought
Shout out to the OG Ollanius Pius, a real one.
Ps: no, I will not use the new name.
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@@dpatriot4130 the First Saint Ollanius Pius, protector of the Imperial Creed, symbol of defiance and courage of the Imperial Guard, the myth, the legend, the man who stood in defense of the Emperor before Horus fatal blow.
Cool video. What's your favorite faction or PM Chapter?
Audiobooks man majority of them are so good, for me personally I started with Helsreach which does have an animated shorter version on youtube. But I had the same problem a character would say something in reference and id be thinking I dont know what that is and personally i would just stop and pull up the wiki page for that one thing just so I had a rough knowledge of it going forward
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Brutal kunning, warboss and da big dakka are good books on orks. Listen on audible for best effect.
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Welcome to the hobby brother, ive loved Warhammer for over 25yrs now and its still my favourite hobby/sci fi universe. Absolutely try painting, its not as daunting as it seems once you learn a few basic skills. The Horus Hersey books are amazing but absolutely not a good starting point to go into the lore cold.
First 5 books of the heresy are really good. My top books so far is Storm of Iron and the night lords trilogy
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Want another universe that is equally deep and mad? SCP Foundation. (Isander and Koda said that Venn diagram of WH40k fans and SCP fans is basically an oval)
LoL I enjoyed that.. 🤣😂🤣
lol I figured you would
Hello brother , next on your list , and we’re just getting started btw , “ the guardsman “ short film. “ hells reach “ animated
Lupercal!
Second trying eisenhorn. Try reading that. Or gaunts ghosts. Basically the author Dan abnett is the best one in my opinion, nearly everything by him is great. Eisenhorn is a good starter though, same with gaunts ghosts, because in my opinion you can enjoy them without knowing much at all.
Just started collecting oh... 6 months ago? Have almost 1000 points rn, but kind of a hodge podge, nothing really coherent. If i had a bigger budget? Oh man... there'd be no stopping me
lol crazy
I feel in the rabbit hole when Star Wars started to go down hill. Needed something to fill the gap and boy did 40k do it. After watching astartes I had to look for more. Sadly there use to be a lot more fan animation till GamesWorkshop did a purge lost a lot of good talent.
Horus Heresy is the best this new lore books in most their are $hit
if your having fun in space marine 2
try reading "desert raiders"
the game is really bad at showing how dangerous tyranids really are
Infinite and the Divine sucks, it's slow boring as hell. 2 old Necron dudes fighting like little children.
Oh really, wow
@@dpatriot4130Your mileage may vary. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Necrons being humanized, but a lot of folks find it both incredibly charming and existentially horrifying.
The only way to know is to read (or listen to) it for yourself.
LOL LMFAO ROTF I had not noticed you were remotely into WARHAMMER 40K,,, JK There are so many Mini games out there, that do not cost so much as WARHAMMER. Warhammer have become a CASH GRAB, no longer the game it once was. The company is starting to loose ground and could begin to fall from grace. I use to play it back in the early 90s, back then they didnot place requirements on Retail shops to carry their game, now they do.
Horus Rising is not a good first book to read, yes.
In general, Horus Heresy books are not particularly good, and have general problem of taking what was mythos and scattered history and bringing it in focus, when it really should not be. On more global level, it has almost no editorial oversight, and written by bunch of authors, which leads to characterization of characters varying wildly depending on skill and biases of a particular writer.
Best places to start, and i'm very much not the first to say it is Eisenhorn series and Ciaphas Cain series.
They also have lotr minatures, 40k is my jam though.
Dont think about this like you missed the hobby for long, think it more like you are lucky, because you are entering the hobby in its peak time, literally and figuratly because of all the lore and media oncoming things like films and tv shows etc, and the best part of a hobbie its the starting so enjoy it, dont rush it because no one nor me (15 years in) is capable of being a lore master in this, i like your videos and 40k, so keep up the good shit.
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