*Update* just so yall know, about this Seungri and the burning sun thing. I was given information about it and read a bit and what I said in the video may have been wrong however, I’m getting more info and am open to redacting what I said but until then, i’ll not speak on it as if I was there Thank you all for correcting me and giving me more info and I’ll always admit when i’m wrong
Thank you for acknowledging that you were misinformed. Most people just ignore it and believe whichever side they want I hope people weren't to harsh when they were helping you understand
Thanks for saying that, and i hope you'll take time to get more information and read legal stuff from the court. Seungri has NO victims and never was part of burning sun shit, he was just promoting the club at the time 'cause he was djing. He's in a Correctional Centre for other legal matters. It's crazy that they're using his picture and not showing the real criminals Kim Sang-kyo, Jung Joon-young, Choi Jong-hoon, Lee Moon-ho, Lee Sung-hyun, Yoo In-seok and others. PS. i dont think his bandmates would support him quiet openly if he was a monster. peace
Sorry. I’ve seen your clarification too late. It’s disappointing that another video with fake infos is out there, but it’s best you either dig yourself completely in the case or just keep silent about it. It’s really a pity because I always enjoyed your content and you seem like a nice guy.
@@lyz1006Things would be fine if people would understand boundaries. You can love someones art and that is not same thing as loving the person. You do not know the person, even if you think you do. Seungri's singing and performance can be phenomenal regardless if he did something worst than was sentenced for or if he's innocent to everything. It doesn't change his singing. Be fans of people's art, not people themself. They all are just people and making them gods harms us and them. I agree that he was treated unfairly bc of his fame and that it was done on purpose. They started looking into the case and realized the amount of abuse and prostitution that happens in the night life of Korea, for high ranked individuals, businessmen, politicans = people who don't get caught. They needed a scapegoat, cause otherwise it would've been about EVERYONE. I think it's unfair to be prisoned bc of changing gambling money in Vegas etc, but that wasn't all. No victims have spoken up about him doing things like others in the case, there's no proof of him r*p*ng anyone or using "medicines" to other people, or using any himself. However, he did use a prostitute and delivered a prostitute to someone else and hanged out with people who do sell women, and it was no secret. GD even put it into his song. Seungri is not an angel. He changed his story 4 times, honest people don't do that. And he has confessed to his crimes, all 9 of them, including prostitution delivery (sorry, I don't know the right word for it) and buying prostitutes. To me that does mean he has victims. Human trafficing is no joke, or if they weren't trafficed they are abused anyway. Owned by a man to be used by other men. It's up to you whether you wanna see his contacts as just casual people he happened to know and had no other connections to, or you can add it up with the fact he used and delivered women himself too. That's what other members said: he hangs out with these shady looking people and when they (other members) hear he's gonna do business with them, they get worried. What business do you think those shady looking people did? Men may not see it as violence, when they see a woman coming to them and acting like they are willing to do things. But they should think. Other men forgive things like that, bc they understand he just wanted some fun. But that fun of theirs ruins lives. The ones who deliver women to other men do know the dark side of it, for sure. He could've reacted differently too, like an innocent person would. He could've spoken up about not knowing and that everyhting will be investigated inside the club internally also and that doesn't want anything to do with a club like that. He could've talked for the victims and against prostitution, he has huge platform to speak up. But he didn't. Instead he lied to the police, 5 stories, at least 4 of them lies, most likely all. Anyone, who's been in the night life, knows about the prostitution. When the investigation started to look too big, and they weren't gonna sue any politicans or foreign businessmen, they needed a face and a scapegoat and Seungri was perfect for that. He is narcisistic, some people think it's really cute trait in him, but that's the name of it anyway. So he thought he would be fine, while playing in big boys' league, he thought he could talk himself out of trouble and outsmart people. He couldn't. And he was the one that was sacrificed for all: for everything that case represents, the endless abuse of women and girls, that big bosses do not want to change. And making him the face that represents things he didn't do, is unfair. Public hate was unfair. But he is not just innocent boy who got into trouble without a reason. GD publically warned him about ending up in prison, if he doesn't change years ago. You can just imagine how many times a thing like that must have been said in private, before making it public. And he was right. Sorry for writing such a novel, just wanted to say what's important to me. There is no black and white and case of Seungri's is in the grey area. I think people who don't admit it are in denial about something or just hateful bc scapegoat plot worked wonders. What's truly unfair is talking about this when talking about Bigbang. It's a lifework of other people too. ***Tons of editing for typos and just to make this more readable.. sorry for the ones I still missed
I just watched your reaction. It was a lot of fun. BigBang holds a special part of my heart and always will. I am disappointed with your discourse at the end. It's unfair to be judgemental when you don't know the whole story. Different country, different culture, different government. Research until you feel satisfied your questions have been answered. FYI, just so you understand the corruption, the defense was never allowed to call their witnesses to testify.
OMG... So glad you found the true legendary kings. It is sad they came back this yer as 4 and now 3 since TOP didn't renew his contract with YG. But G-Dragon is the king of concept and a creative genius. I love big bang but love G-Dragon more. G-Dragon was 6 yrs old and the youngest to ever be in a k-pop group at that age. It only lasted 1 year and only had 1 song or album. He then didn't reappear again till he was 13 when he started honing his rapping skills. I believe he started training with SM first but then moved to YG and trained for 7 years before debut with Big Bang in 2006. I may have found stray kids first in kpop but G-Dragon is my 2nd love of k-pop. He has no boundaries on creativity and like you said all idols list him as their idol. His has a powerful stage presences and so talented as a singer, rapper and writer, composer. He is humble and true to who he is. I hope you view more of Big Bang and G-Dragon. The song that Taeyang sang Ring a Ling was written by G-Dragon and giving to Taeyang as a birthday gift. The song has a m/v and g-dragon in it. catch you on the next video
2nd gen is really an iconic era. There is a variety of genre plus their performances are really on fire! bigbang is massive. They are really popular. Every kpop year end events where bigbang performs, the crowd are almost if not all are VIPs. Bigbang is the first kpop grp who had the officially lighstick designed by GD himself so you see them very well in crowds There are a lot of performances where you can enjoy their music. I hope you check out more of them. My vip era is so memorable.
I used to watch the whole mama like the 6 hours show with the red carpet interviews without subtitles lol that's how much fun it was, now I only watch bts performances and speeches 2nd gen had so many group interactions it was the best era for kpop
I totally agree with you there was more variety of genres in the music and lyrics more interesting, some people who love 4th generation always say that those who love the 2nd generation is just because they are from that era or are old persons but i have listened a lot of songs of 4th and 3th generation and their performance and im still choosing the 2nd one and im 25 years old i dont think that im too old as those people say .MAMA was amazing and joyable ,specially with this group Bigbang they achieve lot of great things in the industry , their performance , their voices , style, lyrics, versatility in all aspects ,videos all were amazing ,they left a big mark on the industry .
G Dragon designed the first ever Kpop lightstick for his group. Because media was always interested in GD's fashion and he always traveled, the so-called "airport fashion" in kpop was popularized, and big brands started sponsoring the whole kpop industry
you're gonna LOVE gdragon's entire discography. not a single skip. he's the blueprint. for singers rappers and performers (not dancing, i mean stage presence and the way he carries himself). he's everybody's idol. if you think some of his mannerisms and stuff look familiar, it's probably cause whoever you saw doing it before got inspired from him
They perform also at MAMA 2015 their last MAMA .. Gdragon dissed MAMA twice but still invited by it and he even won ARTIST OF THE YEAR AS A SOLOIST in a kpop history
GD’s still every idols idol. BigBang is legendary. Regardless of everything. 2015 MAMA is a great performance. K-pop wouldn’t be where it is without them, a lot of idols became idols because of BigBang. Every award show became a concert. Every member shines on their own while being a cohesive group. You could give BigBang a mic & they’d dominate an empty stage. Maybe I’m biased. GD was my first K-pop bias so I’m very protective. VIP UNTIL WHENEVER.
FYI: GD "G dragon" was truly a legend, trendsetter, blueprint, the manual of KPOP. He dissed MAMA at MAMA awards through his performance and yet they still invite him the next year. He is the one who create the lightstick in KPOP. Bigbang fandom had the vey first lightick. He is also the first ASIAN ARTIST to become muse and ambassador of CHANEL, GIVENCHY etc. He is the one who inroduced the AIRPORT Fashion because during his time everything he wore in airport after a minute everything was Sold out. He is known as Fashion Icon too. He was also the first Korean artist who collaborated with the brand of NIKE as like Travis Scott, Michael Jordan etc. The list of Gdragon doing first was so long and history. Basically He called in Korea as the Idol of IDOL's the Celebrity of CELEBRITIES. If you want to know more about GDRAGON you may check out the video here in youtube. GDRAGON as legendary artist. We hope you had fun checking them out.
Frikken LEGENDS!!! GDragon is a GOD in Kpop and a GOD in South Korea… literally! 😅 he is probably the most well known Korean in the world, either through Big Bang, his solo’s, his fashion, literally everything. You should DEFINITELY check out Big Bang’s MAMA 2015 performance next. I think it’s the best performance in the history of the awards show! Also the one where GDragon disses MAMA at MAMA is when he performed Good Boy with Taeyang. That was during the MAMA 2014 performance
Yayy! Big Bang is the group that got me in kpop. This was the good days, too, when idols could interact without a “scandal” or hate. GD is so legendary
YES!! Bigbang! Here is an extensively long introduction and brief history of Bigbang: They debuted in 2006 from YG. They were not super successfull right from the start but with Lies in 2007 and Haru Haru in 2008 they catapulted to superstardom in South Korea. And they just grew bigger with each comeback and started to get international fame too. And this was before TH-cam and social media were huge like they are now. They really like to experiment with their music, you'll never know what to expect from them.... pop-rock to EDM to old school rap and everything in between. I think that is one of the biggest reasons why they are so loved by both kpop fans and the general public. Never trust a kpop fan who doesn't know Bigbang (or the other 2nd gen legends). They have a hand in everything regarding their music, writing and producing (GD is the one who started the whole idols doing their own music thing), they fund their consert tours 100% themselves, they design the lighting, stages, setlists, arrangements etc for conserts. They are the blueprint that other companies use to form their new groups. Labels used to bring trainees to Bigbang conserts to show them how it’s done. ”Even if Bigbang isn’t your bias, they are your bias’ bias.” The members are GD (G-Dragon): Leader, Lead rapper, Vocals, Producer, Songwriter, born 1988 (high tone voice, very distinct and easy to regocnise voice) TOP: Main rapper, minimal vocals, Producer, Songwriter, Actor, Art collector, born 1987 (deep and low voice) Taeyang: Main vocal, Producer, Songwriter, born 1988 (the smooth R&B voice) Daesung: Vocals, Producer, Songwriter, Drummer, born 1989 (most of his solo stuff is under the name D-Lite in Japan) (Powerful, a bit raspy voice, very easy to regocnise also) (Check D'splay here on TH-cam, he is totally not Daesung *wink*) ex-member Seungri: Vocals, Producer, Songwriter, born 1990 (light pretty voice) (Left BB in 2019 due to a scandal (he was our maknae for 13 years so I'm including him here and he's in all of BB's MVs except Still Life). I wrote a different comment on the "scandal", but all in all it was a super messy, very public and complicated witch hunt, There is A LOT of wrong info going around on this scandal and about him.) They don't really dance during their MVs and lives (like pretty much all other groups do) but they are talented dancers, especially Taeyang, GD and Seungri. When you get to know them more you will see that TOP is the greatest dancer of all!! LOL. Seungri even had a dance academy and many idols trained there, like J-Hope (BTS) and Minzy (2NE1). BB are the kings of live performances!! They like to arrange their songs differently for pretty much every consert and live show. They have had the same live band with them since 2012. The band six toured with BB for years until they went to hiatus for military and the band has since toured with other YG groups, mainly Blackpink. My personal favorites live are Café (MADE Tour), Haru Haru (acoustic version) and Sober (MADE Tour with Daesung on the drums). I highly recommend watching a consert, the Japan dome tour X 2014-2015 is one of the best ones and the MADE or 0to10 tours are also great ones. But to fully grasp the impact they have had, here is a list of some things that are very normal now but what Bigbang started and changed: - Lightsticks (GD invented the concept and designed BB's yellow crown lightstick, the bang bong) - TOP was the first underground rapper (he went by the name Tempo) turned idol (turned into a successfull actor) - Writing their own songs and producing their own music (GD, the musical genius, but all of them write and produce). So now younger idols have the chance to make their own music thanks to GD and BB breaking the stereotype of idols. - Different genres of music started to be more common in Kpop thanks to them (Hip Hop, EDM...) as they were exploring different genres and making variety of differend genre music. - Combining different genres in one song became popular thanks to them. Like Bang bang bang. (They were not the first to do this but they made it popular) - Fantastic Baby started the EDM era in Kpop. - To have actual rappers in a group and not a group member who can't sing well enough and was trained to rap here and there. The first real rapline GD&TOP (and they actually have an album together from 2011). - Rapper combo with higher voice and a deeper voice and at least one deep voiced rapper in a group. - Solo carees, back in the day idols started their solo careers only after disbanding, but BB members wanted to go solo and stay in BB. And they have done it super well.. All of them have a very successful solo career. - International success before social media and streaming were a thing. - They were the first ones to have a real world tour, first international awards, etc. - YG made BIGBANG but BIGBANG made YG. YG ent is one of the "BIG 4" all thanks to BB. Many kpop fans doesn't seem to know this, but YGE was extremely poor (like going bankrupt level) and a small company when BB were trainees and debuted and thanks to their success they are now one of the biggest companies out there. BB was responsible for over 60% of YGEs income at one point and for some time too. - First mini albums. - They were always themselves, goofy, weird and funny. So group members now can also be more free to who they are. - High fashion in kpop (mainly GD.. and TOP) - Crazy hair colors (mainly GD again) - The list goes on.. They've had some scandals over the years (some real and some not) but in my opinion most of it is just South Korean media (and knets) hating on them (they always have) and them being grown up men just living their life in a super conservative world of kpop idols. What I personally like the most about them is that they really don't give a f**k about anything anymore, they just do what they like the most and that is excellent music. With this modern era of kpop with the super conservative rules it'll be fun to see BB shake things up when they finally appear in the public again with BB or solo promotions!! The world of kpop was very different when I started my kpop journey in 2010... groups were collaborating, male and female idols were collaborating and were friends in public, no useless scandals over every little thing and the fandoms weren't nearly as toxic as they are now, ah the golden era of kpop. I miss those days. Newer fans have no idea what they have missed out on. I would recommend to start either from the start or go with the MADE album. All songs from that album (except If You, see the tour report for this one) has an MV. Also they all have excellent solo music with their own flare. Please check out Daesung (D-Lite) - Anymore (live Japan dome tour 2017) and TOP - Doom Dada (MV) for starters. They are hilarious people so variety shows are a must: Happy together, weekly idol, Radio Star, all the Running Man episodes with BB are golden, Run Bigbang scout and the MADE movie.
To correct information about Seungri and the Burning Sun case: He was not involved in Burning Sun. At all. Victims and those involved even came forward and said he wasn't even involved in it and that his name was used simply because he had a small share in the club since he had a hobby of DJing years ago. During that time, he was busy due to running the Black Label and being the CEO of his ramen chain to even visit clubs and hadn't DJed in a long time. He was acquainted with JJY - the one who was responsible for the Burning Sun - but only as much as every other celebrity back then. Even TH-camrs knew JJY but only a select few knew about the dr*gs and r*pes - all of whom went to jail immediately and many of whom who are already out or near the end of their sentences. Those involved in Burning Sun got VERY small punishments and even got reduced time by writing "letters of reflection" (bullsh*t). Even JJY was given only like 6 years and his time was reduced to 5 years. Seungri was made into a scapegoat because the reporter who outed the Burning Sun case hinted at him as "Singer Lee" and she spread lies to create drama, fanning the flames of her report and making her seemingly a hero. "Singer Lee" in the group chat was actually another artist who was thrown in jail with the others, but Seungri's name had already been dragged through the mud. People lied and said it was "Seungri's Club" when he owned the smallest share and didn't even visit. He cooperated fully with the investigation to prove his innocence, but the case dragged on for years even after the others were jailed. This is because the public had grown to distrust him and despite evidence AND testimonies proving he wasn't involved, the public wanted him to be punished. To protect his group from the backlash he was facing, he quit YG and stepped away from everything to wait for his case to be over. His case was drawn out so long that his time for the military came, so the case was handed to the military court. While serving his military service, he was also going to court frequently as their investigation continued. Since they didn't find anything to connect him to the Burning Sun case, they searched for anything that would put him behind bars. Most prominent in these findings after years of searching, they punished Seungri for gambling overseas with YG himself and a few others (which is illegal for Korean citizens), not doing proper paperwork to exchange money for said gambling in Vegas, minor health code violations at one of his restaurants, etc. Most notable to the public among these, though, was that he is said to have been at a party where prostitutes were provided to foreign businessmen; however this was also said to be the wives of the businessmen rather than prostitutes as the defense put forward. In the end, Seungri accepted their findings since everyone was tired of this drawn out case and accepted whatever punishment his country wanted him to have. He accepted a sentence of one and a half years of prison and paying a fine. He finished his military service and promptly moved to serve his sentence. Did Seungri make mistakes and was he part of some shady things? Sure, but many of it are minor mistakes and even the major ones listed were said to not be entirely true like the "prostitutes or wives" fiasco. Was he part of Burning Sun and did he r*pe people like some suggest? No. He was never part of that harassment, a**ault, and the molka chat. People like to push him as a r*pist because they refuse to read about the case and educate themselves. It's okay to educate yourself on a case and realize you maybe had a wrong idea at first. Do you have to forgive him? Of course not. Nobody is asking people to forgive him, but it's still exhausting to see misinformation being spread. Not one person ever mentions JJY, Junhyung, Jonghoon, Jonghyun, or any of the others who were part of the molka chat. Even the Wiki page for Burning Sun lists Seungri's name first and his face is plastered to the post. His face was the face of the entire case rather than JJY who dr*gged and r*ped countless women and posted their videos into the molka chat. JJY is the real monster of that case and it's important to spread that rather than say that Seungri was to blame. You can find the full case documented for education on Twitter and other various spots online. It's up to your own opinion for whether you watch content with Seungri or not according to your own comfort, but don't let your viewers give you wrong information about something so serious. It's not fair to the victims. Edit: I also want to stress that this is not just a delusional fan type of post. I used to be a fan of JJY's solo music and his band Drug Restaurant (which looking back on it the name of the band aged so poorly after what he was found to be doing). I dropped his music so fast and can't even enjoy the songs I used to like because I can only think about what he did. If Seungri had done something so severe, I'd also drop his a** just as fast. However, he's innocent in the Burning Sun case and never did anything as horrific as what those others did. It's not the fan that makes VIPs try to correct information, it's us as human beings wanting people to know the truth for the sake of the victims. Nobody seems to be furious over the fact that many of those r*pists and those in the molka chat were given such small sentences that were basically a slap on the wrist. I'd love to see the public demand JJY get an extended sentence and condemn the judge who dared to reduce his sentence, but barely anybody seems to even curse him.
I agree wholeheartedly with your synopsis. I have never been a fan of Seungri, his attitude irritated me from years back, BUT when this scandal broke, it was clearly media hyped. Seungri was steadfast, he fully cooperated, he took drug tests, his entire business history was combed over by literally hundreds of investigators. After choosing the path of scapegoating Seungri, the police and prosecutors investigated for TWO FREAKING YEARS, and still they only came up with petty bs that could have been administratively fined and put away. BUT they were too far in, they had to make it appear those were serious charges. One topic the social commenters in SK returned to time and again: equitable sentencing for "crimes" of other citizens in comparison. Fines that had been resolved years ago were brought into court as if they were not already addressed, "crimes" not really considered as part of that particular law used to pad the charges. Monies intermingled in Seungris businesses, minor issues of bookkeeping suddenly become EMBEZZLEMENT. All of it was hyped to feed the flames angering the SK citizens, but when asked about the ACTUAL charges, SK citizens could NOT name them. They remembered what the media incorrectly stated, but not the real charges. Ask any NETIZEN who followed the first week of the case, they will not believe that any allegations were proven false. They JUST know what the media stated then, continue to state falsely and refuse to correct. THAT is why Wikipedia still has paragraph after paragraph WRONG on every article related to Burning Sun. They chronicled all of it based ONLY on the media play, perhaps knowing the media was determined to put Seungri behind bars from day one. JJY, the RAPIST GANGBANGER LEADER, got less media coverage than admitted gambler Seungri. It was simply because Seungri just would not fold. He stood tall for three years, that arrogant part of him that irritated me, was the exact trait that allowed him to fight until the end. I don't know where Seungri will go after completing his sentence, but he should go proudly, an entire nation didn't change his mind about right and wrong.
Seungri was in one of the most popular kpop groups at the time and we all know how some people like to try to drag down & destroy those in the biggest groups.
@@kathleensouthern9997"I don't know where Seungri will go after completing his sentence, but he should go proudly, an entire nation didn't change his mind about right and wrong." This part hit me hard. 😭 It's always what I want Seungri to be. Go out there proudly, slap the nation w/ his truth especially those people all behind it. But there's a part of me just want him to live peacefully. Leave SK if possible?😔
I'm only in a minute of the vid and i just stopped when he said something about Seungri... I saw this comment and as a VIP, thank you. Not anyone are open minded to learn about the truth so thank you for your explanation, i hope everybody will read this. *PS Seungri used to handle YGX, not TBL.
Bigbang yeah love them! Hopefully you will read about seungri yourself (real things not the false media/vlogs) ... all witness that lied recanted all their lies - even the guys who admitted their guilt said he did nothing wrong, not one victim named him.. Korean laws are not like U.S . The judge found him guilty anyway. Don't let the haters spread false information. Seungri was not and will never be my favorite artist but lies for the sake of fandoms is just wrong, this whole thing involves people's lives and is not a joke or a plaything for heartless children. I said what I said. Now, pop-on Bigbang!!!!kings
It seems people told you misinformation about Seungri... He was used basically he only crime was gambling... He is not involved in Molka chat and he is not involved in Burning Sun neither, Seungri's case is different... In Molka chat he was in another chat room what happened was the guy(another idol he was jailed but despite all the effort of the victims for making him stay longer he'll be free soon😤) who drugged, rapped and filmed girls was in that Business chat were Seungri was part of. In this Bussines chat that other idol called Jung Joon Young accidentally shared a 20 seconds video of consensual sex but not consensual share this video was suddenly deleted by JJY under request of the other people in the business Chat... Actually Jung Joon Young wanted share that video on his private chat(the Molkachat) where other idols and friends of him watched his criminal content.... Burning Sun this case was debunked on 2019 but kmedia spreaded a lot of misinformation back then that make it a case when actually the only crime committed by the CEO and an employee was drugs dealing. Yes it happened that in the club girls were harassed but it wasn't under the administration of the club knowledge, it was a chaebol(heir) that used to go to that club and assault girls, the same chaebol that later on after being kicked out of that club, accused Burning Sun of prostitution ring, the same chaebol that spend his time throwing hate on BIGBANG as a whole, the same chaebol that promised to destroy BIGBANG and YGE, the same chaebol that was and still is called "hero" by uneducated international kpop fans🤦🏻♀️... That same "hero" tried to abuse women and have many charge against him for women assault😤... Seungri's case it was a lost case since the very beginning he gave all the proof of his innocence but the Military Judge without considering Seungri's proof of his innocence that he brought during his whole 25 Court hearings, that judge decided to sentenced him due Seungri's idol image, by bringing up the reputation of their country, by reading a gossip article instead of the reliable proof brought at Court😑... Seungri's case is a failure in the sistem and a shame for the law.. Seungri is innocent😔
Thank you. Im so mad with ppl who know nothing about Ri's case and judge him just by only single article that they read. Most of all news on internet are bullshit just make seungri image bad. So sad many people don't know about it. Specialy nonkorean fans, just eat up all news without knowing the truth
They are gods. GD and BigBang are the ones who came up with the concepts of light sticks and crazy hair colors. GD wanted to be able to see where in the audience his fans were at big performances like MAMA and for them to be able to see him.
As I watch your video, I get to see the description of this scandal which I never do because it's bullshit. It's bullshit, no other way to describe it. If you do some research (not just google) you'll know what I mean. All these SA charges are not related to Seungri or burning sun club. Seungri only knew these people, that's all. Looking at Seungri's charges which took them 2 and a half years to accomplish and had no victims, you can see how ridiculous they are. Where are the SA, drug charges? But Seungri refused to confess to things that he didn't do even after 50 interrogations, over 10 hours each by the police. I thank him for being so strong because no other person can endure this torture. Wouldn't you give up when the police say, 'You'd better confess. We received order from above. There's no other solution.' Yes, I read this from court testimonies. Don't do bad stuff, I agree. But more important thing is, don't just believe the things you're told.
what? It's always annoying when people start talking and throwing hate without taking the time to find out real information about Seungri's case. We are 2022, near to 2023 and many things were clarified with this case, Seungri isn't the ringleader as they want to imply, there are more powerful heads behind this, who are now sitting calmly in their home because the media and the public only concentrated their hatred on the public figure. 2nd he onl only accepted a charge that is gambling, it is illegal in Korea.The case of Chat Molka, the person ''Lee'' turned out to be another idol, who already confessed and was only given probation and a bail. The alleged prostitutxs went to testify and stated that Seungri was not the one who hired them. Seungri was an occasional DJ at Burning Sun. Burning sun was so famous disco, many famous people (idols) consumed in that place. In the other hand, BIGBANG are and always will be 5. If you do not support the 5, you are not a real VIP, BIGBANG's members are humans too like us.
There are famous idol groups and then there are those what we call LEGEND... and BigBang is both famous and Legendendary iconic. THE KING OF KPOP. I'm a full pledge pearl aqua blooded SHAWOL ( SHINee Fandom ) and we respect and acknowledge their unmatchable contribution to the Kpop industry. Full package idols, they are and forever THE KING OF KPOP.
Here are some FACTS about Seungri’s ”scandal”. He was an essential part of Bigbang. It will be very different without him (if they even make an actual comeback as Bigbang without Seungri, I have my doubts). I'm still heartbroken about what happened to him. I wish he would come back but it's not likely at least for a long time. And knowing what koreans and knetz are like... not likely. It's a long and complicated story of what happened and why he left but to summarise it was a super messy and a very public witch hunt. And anti-Seungri people, please read all the way through before hating on me in the comments. I'll just give a very general story of how it went here for you: It started in early 2019 with the burning sun club issues (sexual harrasment in the club, money laundring etc.) and grew up to be the worst scandal ever. All the headlines were: Seungri’s club Burning Sun has done this and that, Seungri involved in this and that. He got blamed for doing ugly things that weren’t true (and yes it has been proven he wasn't a part of Jung Joon Young's chat case (secretly photographing girls and rape) at all and all the guilty people were sent to prison already) and some reporters even made very ugly things up to get bigger and bigger headlines and were later sentenced to prison for that. It got very dark and ugly. There were public appeals made for him to commit suicide... that is not ok. He was the most loved maknae one day and the next everybody hated his guts. They started a full on investigation about everyhting about his life, work and businesses (he owned or co-owned clubs, restaurants etc) to find ANY sign or proof of his wrongdoings. They even forced him and all of Bigbang members to have drug tests, all were negative (South Korea has VERY strict drug laws). They tried to dig up evidence against him for gambling (illegal for Korean citizens), arranging escort ladies for business partners in Japan etc for 3 years and got nothing. Early in 2022 he got 1,5 years in prison because he admitted to the charges (of gambling and arranging escorts in Japan). In South Korea the conviction rate is 99% which is absurdly high and it’s practically impossible to get an innocent verdict in a court hearing. They only care about the numbers of convictions and not if the person actually did anything. It’s more appropiate to admit guilt whether you are guilty or not, do your time and reflect on your wrongdoings and you might have a chance still in the future. So even though he was adamant for the past 3 years of not addmitting guilt he's probably very tired and exhausted after all this time so it was a better option for him considering the future. The media has never cleared his name in the older issues about him so most kpop fans and koreans still think it's all him. They used his name at the start of the scandal: Seungri's club burning sun (he owned about 5% of the club and DJ'd there sometimes), Seungri's chat etc. Because it's Seungri, he was part of the most loved group and a very popular member and a megastar. The shock value was big. They got way more readers that way so the scandals (especially the chat scandal) were tied to him closely even though it never was him. All the while the issues some of us are certain they wanted to cover with Seungri's case are totally forgotten. The SOPA scandal and the burning sun related money laundring cases that included some important people in SK. I still get so mad just thinking about this whole issue and how Seungri's life and career are ruined forever. Some people are starting to belittle Seungri's effect on Kpop while he was in Bigbang because of this, the truth is his and Bigbangs impact on kpop was huge no matter what happened after. If you are guilty you have to pay for your crimes but this very public witch hunt was way over the proportion of his crimes, which are at the level of gambling... Sorry for the long rant. I'm just mad and heartbroken about this still.
All Bigbang's MAMA performances are really on top! They are the standard ! Nobody does it like them..the charisma and energy ...rap and vocals are the best.. since Korean music Festival to Mama they ate the most viewed and waited performances...you check their stages since 2009
Actually you are doing bad shit right now by just simple judging and assuming something towards Seungri w/o knowing everything.. 1.The so called victims denies his participation, infact they said that it was the police who interviewed them who linked Seungri.. 2. Those women that they said that was Seungri's gift to his business partner in a party was proven that it was actually the wife of those business from japan and china and not a prostitute. 3. He was presented as the mastermind but later on the prosecuter after 24th hearing change it as accompliance. 4. He was tested 3 times even with hair to drugs and tested negative. 5. He even surrender all his cp, give all his address even the place of his parents and sister to the authority. 6. He asked the police to have a lie detector while interogation but they decline and i wonder why coz it can really make their works easier. 7. He was not one of the owner just an investor. 8. Reporters was caught manipulating and editing the group chat where they can find those malicious act and they did say sorry for that. 9. The mr. Lee in the group chat was reported as Seungri but later on it was proven that the Mr. Lee theyre talking is not Seungri. 10. The most fuck up of all? Those people who rapes and drugs women was only sentenced by 2.5 years just because they write an apology letter while Seungri who was just drag into this mess became the center of this scandal.. those culprit dont even last for months being reported by media they all focus to Seungri🙄🙄. Possible reason? To divert the attention of people toward Seungri and avoid it to the Samsung's heir that time..thats how nasty korea..theyll use Kpop Idols and make any Scandals even with dating scandals theyll do it to cover up the messy things in korea.. i remember back then they ise kpop idols to cover up the bullying issue in korea's national volleyball team, same thing with some politician being caught. 11. Oh let me add this coz this is how low prosecutors are.. i mean they use Seungri's Movie where he act like a gangster or mafia boss something to prove that he was in a gangster group.
My VIP heart SOOOOOOARS!! Please learn more about BigBang. they are more than just their scandals. These boys grew up with each other and had to train with little to no food together to get where they were. The rest of the band is hurt by all of this, and doesn't want to be remembered just by this. I stopped listening to KPOP when they went on hiatus and only now came back for Stray Kids. They were also one of the first idol groups to kinda forgo dance performances and just be themselves on stage. Up until now, there really isn't many groups that can just do that on stage. There isn't a BigBang song that I don't like, even if I cringe at their early R&B videos.
this really brings back memories 😅 I almost become VIP just from watching their performances on MAMA before.. their stage presence really 👍👍👍 it's really fun to watch MAMA performances from back then..
The illegal videos were filmed by other idols. And it has nothing to do with victims. He is not guilty. To the extent that they hang on it. Night girls at the last trial confirmed that he did not hire them. but the "accusation" craved his head on the chopping block.
Aw, c'mon. Everything that happened to that guy isn't 100% FACTUAL. The Burning Sun is supposed to be a big case that went to smokes because they end up using Seungri as the face of the whole scandal. All the focus went to him. And they made him the face of all that happened in 2019. His only association with the club is his small investment, and he also sometimes go there to DJ, so there's a lot of web of lies spread since 2019. Even when the guy was sentenced, the judge felt that the findings against him was not enough to consider him guilty, but due to the immense public scrutiny, he had to give him a bit of a heavy sentence. Yes, in South Korea, public outcry can influence outcome of cases. That's the only way to shut up the public. And for everyone's information, admitting guilt doesn't mean he is GUILTY. He only admitted GUILT to one of the charges, and that was gambling. He remained firm before investigation up to the end of the trial. But during plea bargaining he decided to admit guilt. The man was tired of defending himself and he didn't want to continue anymore. Plea bargaining exist around the world, and there are many instances that the defendant will end up admitting to something they didn't do. That also applies to him. And if you pay close attention to BIGBANG members, we can tell, they didn't abandon him. That includes the people who know him well.
Finally someone spoke up. I was so sad hearing all those things Sebastian said in the reaction. Especially after consistently translating articles for 2 and a half years, comparing fact and reading court documents. And still nobody listens... People keep messing his accusations with actual rap**ts. Nobody cares he has no victims, he kept saying the same things from the very beginning of all this shit, even people (on prosecutor's side) at court defending him. Still people keep messing Burning sun scandal with another ones. His accusations have basically no relation with The Real Burning Sun scandal.. There was a nice Korean article saying media actually tries to erase that Burning Sun scandal using him. Like there is a real problem with clubs in SK like BS but look carefully through his accusations.... They have nothing to do with the whole thing. It went like this: Scandal happened - suddenly he became a face of it (it was really strange from the very beginning) - real rap**t were sentenced - they are searching on him and making accusations which basically has nothing to do with that BS scandal (such as gambling) but he is already the face of BS scandal so people are thinking it's the same (and it's not!) - they raise the number of accusations trying to add as much as possible (some of them make really no sense at all, especially when you read everything about it. Like his birthday party.) - and then sentenced him (he was fighting until the very end doing as much as possible to clear his name). And still people knew this scandal as BS scandal while the REAL Burning Sun case was closed like in 2019. This whole story is a mess, so if u think you know everything about it, you are wrong. Even people who read all the documents (believe me we did) didn't know what exactly was this. Only one thing I know: it's not that simple as you think.
And, honestly, how much more could he afford to fight after the appellate court? They made him admit guilt to all, whilst stating several charges were NOT PROVEN. After that long of time, I bet Seungri was just tired, his fortune was gone, his reputation was gone, his family that counted on him financially(Aori Ramen owners, aunts, uncles, cousins, mom, dad) were struggling. It is heart breaking that even TODAY, the media has still not corrected or updated any of the debunked "facts" that were printed and aired. The FunE reporter Kang? There is a special place in hell for that lying bitch, she tried to save Choi Jong Hoon by presenting Seungri name and face over and over again. She had those chat messages for a long time, she shared them, along with the videos with hundreds of reporters and producers. Those media ilk were recorded making comments about the rape victims bodies. THEN they scapegoat Seungri? The prosecution decided to set aside any charges for the media of MOLKA. How interesting. Even Yoochuns drug issued was presented as having to do with Seungri. Every single person in this wide scoped situation, had their crimes blamed on Seungri. The WHY of this is not clear yet, but one day, it will all come out.
Ok. About the Seungri thing. Other than ONE charge, which he admitted to, EVERY other one was proven a lie, but the prosecution wanted to convict him. This isn't just a fan blindly defending him. You can read all this if you want or ignore it if you aren't interested in facts that came out during the court case. I repeat, FACTS, NOT MEDIA SLURS AND RUMORS. In 2019, a number of allegations related to club Burning Sun, a nightclub founded in 2018 and managed by two CEOs; Lee Moon-ho and Lee Seong-hyu, were raised against Seungri due to his affiliation with the business as a creative director/shareholder and occasional DJ. He was also by FAR the highest profile person in the investigation. The allegations included drug use and arranging sexual favors for investors, among others. Media also shared KakaoTalk conversations with messages ALLEGEDLY shared between him and Burning Sun employees about such arrangements in relation to the prostitution allegation. During a press conference on March 4 the Police revealed that the original, unedited KakaoTalk messages were not submitted to them, and journalists later admitted that they manipulated the kakaoTalk messages Seungri sent before sharing them with the public and the police. In regards to the drug charges, on March 10, Seungri underwent a second round of drug testing; hair and urine samples were tested, and the results were ALL NEGATIVE. On March 11, 2019, Seungri announced on his Instagram account his retirement from the entertainment industry, stating that the criticism and hate he received in the past month had driven him to this move in order to protect Big Bang and YG Entertainment. He also stated that he would fully cooperate with the investigation. On April 25, Seungri denied the prostitution charges related to a 2015 Christmas party, while Yoo In-seok admitted that HE called and paid for entertainers for Japanese investors. The women also admitted the Seungri had NOTHING to do with it. On May 8, after a total of 17 closed-door police interrogations, the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency requested an arrest warrant for Seungri. On May 14, Seoul District Court rejected the arrest warrant saying that embezzlement, a major charge, was open to dispute, and that it was difficult to certify the reasons for detention have been met, such as the destruction of evidence, for the remaining suspicions which included prostitution mediation. In addition, the court's reason for rejection included prosecution's INABILITY TO SHOW THE EXISTENCE AND SCOPE OF CRIMINAL LIABILITY OF SEUNGRI!!! On June 25, the police stated that his case has been forwarded to prosecution with seven charges: procuring sex service, prostitution mediation, embezzlement of business funds for hiring a legal representative, embezzlement of club Burning Sun revenues, attempt at destruction of evidence, distribution of illegally-filmed content via social platforms, and violation of the Food Sanitation Act. THE ARREST WARRANT WAS AGAIN DENIED. Seungri enlisted in the military on March 9, 2020, and his case was transferred to the military court. His trial started on September 16, consisting in eight charges. Seungri denied all charges except one, violation of the Foreign Exchange Transactions Act (bringing over 10,000 in foreign currency into the country without declaring it). During the trial, the witnesses confirmed that it was Yoo In-Seok who ordered prostitution, not Seungri, and Yoo in-seok again admitted it was him and not Seungri. Regarding the charge of distributing obscene material, Seungri stated that he only shared with friends a photo that wasn't taken by him, but was sent to him from an entertainment bar. He NEVER took or shared pics or video of women without their permission. For the charge of habitual gambling, Seungri's lawyer answered that Seungri didn't gamble as a habit, and that he visited the USA for work and not purposely for gambling. Habitual gambling is illegal but not gambling for momentary pleasure. As to the embezzlement charges, even the other owners of the business stated he did NOT embezzle any money. Seungri's charges also include Violation of Food Sanitation Act (for inappropriately declaring Monkey Museum as a restaurant instead of an entertainment establishment). Hardly a major crime! When they realized he might be found not guilty, on January 14 the prosecution added against Seungri the charge of eliciting violence. In 2015, a drunk customer in a bar entered into the private room of Seungri and his acquaintances: the prosecution claimed that after an argument, Seungri called Yoo In-Seok who involved gang members into the argument to threaten the man. However, Seungri claimed that he didn't have anything to do with any gangsters, and during the 15th hearing one of the alleged victims said that he never felt threatened at the time, while the other one stated that Seungri wasn't even involved in the incident. The trial also encountered an issue related to confirmation bias: on March 25, 2021, after the 13th hearing for Seungri's trial, a witness claimed that the police had written up a statement against Seungri that he actually NEVER made. Prosecution's other witnesses also claimed that the investigators put pressure on them TO GIVE FALSE TESTIMONIES, probably due to the pressure from media and public to find Seungri guilty. Many of the witnesses also claimed that the prosecution slightly CHANGED THEIR ANSWERS AND TESTIMONY or seemed to have designed questioning with the target of necessarily arriving at Seungri's name. Seungri stated MULTIPLE times that he was innocent of all but one minor charge and that he only plead guilty to all charges after MULTIPLE instances of coercion, threats and bullying by police and prosecutors.
thank you for reaction about bigbang im miss them so much in stage,,no matter how many idol kpop in korea its still feel empty without bigbang, and gdragon is the firs male korean idol wich is invited as brand ambasador from chanel when that time no one from korea become brand ambasador from other country
I really do hope that you check out more of Big Bang. They're a really great group. They truly paved the way for everything going on in Kpop right now. Everything we all know and love. You'll be surprised at the things they've done
Bigbang got me into Kpop and I was OBSESSED with G-Dragon. They were my ult group and GD was my ult bias. They are ICONIC. I'd say def the kings of 2nd gen.
im sorry but please don't talk about Burning Sun if you don't follow the case from the start. this is a sensitive topic. most of what is on the internet is kmedia bullshit. I ask for your understanding. thank you
bigbang kings of kpop, all of them, u can say anything bad about them but they're legendary....the only group that koreans will have love n hate relationship, the only group still relevant after 16 years with amount of scandals, no one can be like bigbang!!! n i love vips are educated now, they read, study n use their brain to analyze seungri scandal, thumbs up!!!
G-DRAGON is THE REASON why Jungkook wanted to be idol. Thanks to GD's performance, Jungkook wanted to become a singer.. and thanks to him, we now have a damn talented singer like Jeon Jungkook
No one in N.Flying was part of the scandal, it was Jonghyun from CNBLUE (Participated in the chats) and the leader of FT.Island. The ex-leader of N.Flying was part of another scandal were he dated a fan or something and he left the group, but pls, don't misinform if you are not sure, guys...
@@rabindarya2206 Seungri case was different from the burning sun scandal. To cover up the scandal they used his name if you follow the case you will know. Tuely which you didn't
@@sangisailo2514 What? Are You OK? You didnt see What I send, see those videos than we can talk.from your comment I understand that You didnt see those, I Know seungri's case and these Videos help everyone to understand What kind ofshit dirty play kmedias did in seungri's case.
I came here for my Kings performance but then you screamed "is that 2NE1😳?".. I swear God I cried of joy👏🤧, finally someone recognized my girls here in BIGBANG👑 video of their performance😭.. My BLACKJACK heart is thankful🥺♠️... 2NE1👑 performed LONELY and MISSING YOU that year at MAMA2013 one of their best performances👏😭♠️
Idgaf what other poeple said but Bigbang is the top tier artist. Nobody can be on their level in kpop industry. All of them have their own charms and vibe by that I mean, included Seungri.
The fact that a lot if not all new kpop fans who got into bts or these other 3rd and 4th gen groups, didn't go back and learn the history of kpop and check out older groups is crazy to me. But I kinda get it a lot of fans stan only 1 group so they're not technically kpop fans but still, every new group was influenced by these 2nd gen legends. I got into kpop in 2011 or before (i don't remember) and I watched everything lol, I watched all the variety shows that brought different people each ep and watched every mv and got to know all of them and that was honestly the best time of my life
I really wasn't trying to say anything in your comments about this, but everyone that was in your chat was giving you the wrong information. Seungri is innocent and had nothing at all to do with the burning sun scandal or the group chats. Every victim involved cleared his name and so did every victim. They all said he was not involved There's lots of articles online with sources that tells the truth about it including his involvement He did go to jail, but the only reason was because of public opinion. They didn't want to "upset" the public. This is a reason people say he was used as a scapegoat I hope that you read this and learn the truth
I am very glad to see such comments. of course, not many people will believe this, because there are too many people who confidently call him a terrible criminal. few people followed the trial, many simply decided that the accusation is the verdict😤 I hope such comments make at least a small number of people look for REAL information, and not believe everyone in words
@@Ppompuru I hope so too. I hate how little people look into the case and learn the truth. There's so much misinformation being spread all of the time and it's sad
facts, dudes in chat were talking out of their asses... and like why they asking to skip his performance? he was a part of bigbang and that written on stone, they cant just delete his history
it's always the non bigbang fans talking about seungri and telling wrong things like ☠️ and he was the maknae and had least songs and promotion just like daesung around this time
I remember when TOP kissed Lee Hyori on the stage and everyone lost their minds This happened at MAMA 2015 and the diss was at MAMA 2014 I MISS THOSE TIMES
Ah my faves, my ult, my kings!! Bigbang as a group is legendary, and the leader GD is by itself the King of KPOP. The most influencial idol ever. I miss them so much. And i am wating for Jiyong's comeback as a soloist!!!
*Update* just so yall know, about this Seungri and the burning sun thing. I was given information about it and read a bit and what I said in the video may have been wrong
however, I’m getting more info and am open to redacting what I said
but until then, i’ll not speak on it as if I was there
Thank you all for correcting me and giving me more info and I’ll always admit when i’m wrong
Thank you for acknowledging that you were misinformed. Most people just ignore it and believe whichever side they want
I hope people weren't to harsh when they were helping you understand
Thanks for saying that, and i hope you'll take time to get more information and read legal stuff from the court. Seungri has NO victims and never was part of burning sun shit, he was just promoting the club at the time 'cause he was djing. He's in a Correctional Centre for other legal matters.
It's crazy that they're using his picture and not showing the real criminals Kim Sang-kyo, Jung Joon-young, Choi Jong-hoon, Lee Moon-ho, Lee Sung-hyun, Yoo In-seok and others.
PS. i dont think his bandmates would support him quiet openly if he was a monster.
peace
Sorry. I’ve seen your clarification too late. It’s disappointing that another video with fake infos is out there, but it’s best you either dig yourself completely in the case or just keep silent about it. It’s really a pity because I always enjoyed your content and you seem like a nice guy.
@@lyz1006Things would be fine if people would understand boundaries. You can love someones art and that is not same thing as loving the person. You do not know the person, even if you think you do. Seungri's singing and performance can be phenomenal regardless if he did something worst than was sentenced for or if he's innocent to everything. It doesn't change his singing. Be fans of people's art, not people themself. They all are just people and making them gods harms us and them.
I agree that he was treated unfairly bc of his fame and that it was done on purpose. They started looking into the case and realized the amount of abuse and prostitution that happens in the night life of Korea, for high ranked individuals, businessmen, politicans = people who don't get caught. They needed a scapegoat, cause otherwise it would've been about EVERYONE. I think it's unfair to be prisoned bc of changing gambling money in Vegas etc, but that wasn't all. No victims have spoken up about him doing things like others in the case, there's no proof of him r*p*ng anyone or using "medicines" to other people, or using any himself.
However, he did use a prostitute and delivered a prostitute to someone else and hanged out with people who do sell women, and it was no secret. GD even put it into his song. Seungri is not an angel. He changed his story 4 times, honest people don't do that. And he has confessed to his crimes, all 9 of them, including prostitution delivery (sorry, I don't know the right word for it) and buying prostitutes. To me that does mean he has victims. Human trafficing is no joke, or if they weren't trafficed they are abused anyway. Owned by a man to be used by other men.
It's up to you whether you wanna see his contacts as just casual people he happened to know and had no other connections to, or you can add it up with the fact he used and delivered women himself too. That's what other members said: he hangs out with these shady looking people and when they (other members) hear he's gonna do business with them, they get worried. What business do you think those shady looking people did?
Men may not see it as violence, when they see a woman coming to them and acting like they are willing to do things. But they should think. Other men forgive things like that, bc they understand he just wanted some fun. But that fun of theirs ruins lives. The ones who deliver women to other men do know the dark side of it, for sure.
He could've reacted differently too, like an innocent person would. He could've spoken up about not knowing and that everyhting will be investigated inside the club internally also and that doesn't want anything to do with a club like that. He could've talked for the victims and against prostitution, he has huge platform to speak up. But he didn't. Instead he lied to the police, 5 stories, at least 4 of them lies, most likely all.
Anyone, who's been in the night life, knows about the prostitution.
When the investigation started to look too big, and they weren't gonna sue any politicans or foreign businessmen, they needed a face and a scapegoat and Seungri was perfect for that. He is narcisistic, some people think it's really cute trait in him, but that's the name of it anyway. So he thought he would be fine, while playing in big boys' league, he thought he could talk himself out of trouble and outsmart people. He couldn't. And he was the one that was sacrificed for all: for everything that case represents, the endless abuse of women and girls, that big bosses do not want to change. And making him the face that represents things he didn't do, is unfair. Public hate was unfair. But he is not just innocent boy who got into trouble without a reason.
GD publically warned him about ending up in prison, if he doesn't change years ago. You can just imagine how many times a thing like that must have been said in private, before making it public. And he was right.
Sorry for writing such a novel, just wanted to say what's important to me. There is no black and white and case of Seungri's is in the grey area. I think people who don't admit it are in denial about something or just hateful bc scapegoat plot worked wonders. What's truly unfair is talking about this when talking about Bigbang. It's a lifework of other people too.
***Tons of editing for typos and just to make this more readable.. sorry for the ones I still missed
I just watched your reaction. It was a lot of fun. BigBang holds a special part of my heart and always will.
I am disappointed with your discourse at the end. It's unfair to be judgemental when you don't know the whole story. Different country, different culture, different government. Research until you feel satisfied your questions have been answered. FYI, just so you understand the corruption, the defense was never allowed to call their witnesses to testify.
OMG... So glad you found the true legendary kings. It is sad they came back this yer as 4 and now 3 since TOP didn't renew his contract with YG. But G-Dragon is the king of concept and a creative genius. I love big bang but love G-Dragon more. G-Dragon was 6 yrs old and the youngest to ever be in a k-pop group at that age. It only lasted 1 year and only had 1 song or album. He then didn't reappear again till he was 13 when he started honing his rapping skills. I believe he started training with SM first but then moved to YG and trained for 7 years before debut with Big Bang in 2006. I may have found stray kids first in kpop but G-Dragon is my 2nd love of k-pop. He has no boundaries on creativity and like you said all idols list him as their idol. His has a powerful stage presences and so talented as a singer, rapper and writer, composer. He is humble and true to who he is. I hope you view more of Big Bang and G-Dragon. The song that Taeyang sang Ring a Ling was written by G-Dragon and giving to Taeyang as a birthday gift. The song has a m/v and g-dragon in it. catch you on the next video
Bigbang still have 4 memmbers . Top didn't renew his contract to yg but he is still in bigbang.
Don't worry. Top is still a part of Big Bang
Top is till in the group so stop lying to the people and to your self too😒😒
Bigbang still 4, even I'm still like 5
@@mayaisse9313 wtf are you so salty about? There's a difference between lying and being misinformed, chill.
2nd gen is really an iconic era. There is a variety of genre plus their performances are really on fire! bigbang is massive. They are really popular. Every kpop year end events where bigbang performs, the crowd are almost if not all are VIPs. Bigbang is the first kpop grp who had the officially lighstick designed by GD himself so you see them very well in crowds
There are a lot of performances where you can enjoy their music. I hope you check out more of them. My vip era is so memorable.
I used to watch the whole mama like the 6 hours show with the red carpet interviews without subtitles lol that's how much fun it was, now I only watch bts performances and speeches 2nd gen had so many group interactions it was the best era for kpop
@@fatimaezzahra620 Right! I was in highschool back then and I remember I patiently wait for it air in our tv. It brings memories 💕
@@gardenyang4430 yeeess me tooo haha i would stay all afternoon until dark just watching it was such a fun timr
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I totally agree with you there was more variety of genres in the music and lyrics more interesting, some people who love 4th generation always say that those who love the 2nd generation is just because they are from that era or are old persons but i have listened a lot of songs of 4th and 3th generation and their performance and im still choosing the 2nd one and im 25 years old i dont think that im too old as those people say .MAMA was amazing and joyable ,specially with this group Bigbang they achieve lot of great things in the industry , their performance , their voices , style, lyrics, versatility in all aspects ,videos all were amazing ,they left a big mark on the industry .
G Dragon designed the first ever Kpop lightstick for his group. Because media was always interested in GD's fashion and he always traveled, the so-called "airport fashion" in kpop was popularized, and big brands started sponsoring the whole kpop industry
Gdragon was the first idol who became a brand ambassador...which was Chanel
BIGBANG always made award shows their own concert haha their stage presence is insane, you should react to their 2015 performance at MAMA too
This is so true! 😄
yes please
G.o.a.t
I was literally going to post the same thing!! They definitely make award shoes like their own personal concert
All of YG at MAMA 2015 pretty much dunked on the rest of kpop...Bigbang, CL and 2NE1, Psy
you're gonna LOVE gdragon's entire discography. not a single skip. he's the blueprint. for singers rappers and performers (not dancing, i mean stage presence and the way he carries himself). he's everybody's idol. if you think some of his mannerisms and stuff look familiar, it's probably cause whoever you saw doing it before got inspired from him
He's a underrated dancer in my opinion
T. O. P is still my ultimate bias!
Check out their 2015 MAMA performance too
They perform also at MAMA 2015 their last MAMA .. Gdragon dissed MAMA twice but still invited by it and he even won ARTIST OF THE YEAR AS A SOLOIST in a kpop history
GD’s still every idols idol. BigBang is legendary. Regardless of everything. 2015 MAMA is a great performance. K-pop wouldn’t be where it is without them, a lot of idols became idols because of BigBang. Every award show became a concert. Every member shines on their own while being a cohesive group. You could give BigBang a mic & they’d dominate an empty stage. Maybe I’m biased. GD was my first K-pop bias so I’m very protective. VIP UNTIL WHENEVER.
FACTS
All of awarding show he can make his personal or the Bigbang's Live Concert 🔥
FYI: GD "G dragon" was truly a legend, trendsetter, blueprint, the manual of KPOP. He dissed MAMA at MAMA awards through his performance and yet they still invite him the next year. He is the one who create the lightstick in KPOP. Bigbang fandom had the vey first lightick. He is also the first ASIAN ARTIST to become muse and ambassador of CHANEL, GIVENCHY etc. He is the one who inroduced the AIRPORT Fashion because during his time everything he wore in airport after a minute everything was Sold out. He is known as Fashion Icon too. He was also the first Korean artist who collaborated with the brand of NIKE as like Travis Scott, Michael Jordan etc. The list of Gdragon doing first was so long and history. Basically He called in Korea as the Idol of IDOL's the Celebrity of CELEBRITIES.
If you want to know more about GDRAGON you may check out the video here in youtube. GDRAGON as legendary artist.
We hope you had fun checking them out.
Bigbang is the reason I stan KPOP. They are the blueprint, the trendsetter, and of course the kings of KPOP.
Bigbang will forever be the kings of performances. They are iconic in kpop
We really need a BigBang Comeback to get schooled the Newgens 😂
So glad you found this masterpiece! TOP before joining YG was an underground rapper hence why he does the way he does
Frikken LEGENDS!!! GDragon is a GOD in Kpop and a GOD in South Korea… literally! 😅 he is probably the most well known Korean in the world, either through Big Bang, his solo’s, his fashion, literally everything.
You should DEFINITELY check out Big Bang’s MAMA 2015 performance next. I think it’s the best performance in the history of the awards show!
Also the one where GDragon disses MAMA at MAMA is when he performed Good Boy with Taeyang. That was during the MAMA 2014 performance
More please ! Especially their live concerts !
Yayy! Big Bang is the group that got me in kpop. This was the good days, too, when idols could interact without a “scandal” or hate. GD is so legendary
YES!! Bigbang! Here is an extensively long introduction and brief history of Bigbang:
They debuted in 2006 from YG. They were not super successfull right from the start but with Lies in 2007 and Haru Haru in 2008 they catapulted to superstardom in South Korea. And they just grew bigger with each comeback and started to get international fame too. And this was before TH-cam and social media were huge like they are now. They really like to experiment with their music, you'll never know what to expect from them.... pop-rock to EDM to old school rap and everything in between. I think that is one of the biggest reasons why they are so loved by both kpop fans and the general public. Never trust a kpop fan who doesn't know Bigbang (or the other 2nd gen legends). They have a hand in everything regarding their music, writing and producing (GD is the one who started the whole idols doing their own music thing), they fund their consert tours 100% themselves, they design the lighting, stages, setlists, arrangements etc for conserts. They are the blueprint that other companies use to form their new groups. Labels used to bring trainees to Bigbang conserts to show them how it’s done. ”Even if Bigbang isn’t your bias, they are your bias’ bias.”
The members are
GD (G-Dragon): Leader, Lead rapper, Vocals, Producer, Songwriter, born 1988 (high tone voice, very distinct and easy to regocnise voice)
TOP: Main rapper, minimal vocals, Producer, Songwriter, Actor, Art collector, born 1987 (deep and low voice)
Taeyang: Main vocal, Producer, Songwriter, born 1988 (the smooth R&B voice)
Daesung: Vocals, Producer, Songwriter, Drummer, born 1989 (most of his solo stuff is under the name D-Lite in Japan) (Powerful, a bit raspy voice, very easy to regocnise also) (Check D'splay here on TH-cam, he is totally not Daesung *wink*)
ex-member Seungri: Vocals, Producer, Songwriter, born 1990 (light pretty voice) (Left BB in 2019 due to a scandal (he was our maknae for 13 years so I'm including him here and he's in all of BB's MVs except Still Life). I wrote a different comment on the "scandal", but all in all it was a super messy, very public and complicated witch hunt, There is A LOT of wrong info going around on this scandal and about him.)
They don't really dance during their MVs and lives (like pretty much all other groups do) but they are talented dancers, especially Taeyang, GD and Seungri. When you get to know them more you will see that TOP is the greatest dancer of all!! LOL. Seungri even had a dance academy and many idols trained there, like J-Hope (BTS) and Minzy (2NE1).
BB are the kings of live performances!! They like to arrange their songs differently for pretty much every consert and live show. They have had the same live band with them since 2012. The band six toured with BB for years until they went to hiatus for military and the band has since toured with other YG groups, mainly Blackpink. My personal favorites live are Café (MADE Tour), Haru Haru (acoustic version) and Sober (MADE Tour with Daesung on the drums). I highly recommend watching a consert, the Japan dome tour X 2014-2015 is one of the best ones and the MADE or 0to10 tours are also great ones.
But to fully grasp the impact they have had, here is a list of some things that are very normal now but what Bigbang started and changed:
- Lightsticks (GD invented the concept and designed BB's yellow crown lightstick, the bang bong)
- TOP was the first underground rapper (he went by the name Tempo) turned idol (turned into a successfull actor)
- Writing their own songs and producing their own music (GD, the musical genius, but all of them write and produce). So now younger idols have the chance to make their own music thanks to GD and BB breaking the stereotype of idols.
- Different genres of music started to be more common in Kpop thanks to them (Hip Hop, EDM...) as they were exploring different genres and making variety of differend genre music.
- Combining different genres in one song became popular thanks to them. Like Bang bang bang. (They were not the first to do this but they made it popular)
- Fantastic Baby started the EDM era in Kpop.
- To have actual rappers in a group and not a group member who can't sing well enough and was trained to rap here and there. The first real rapline GD&TOP (and they actually have an album together from 2011).
- Rapper combo with higher voice and a deeper voice and at least one deep voiced rapper in a group.
- Solo carees, back in the day idols started their solo careers only after disbanding, but BB members wanted to go solo and stay in BB. And they have done it super well.. All of them have a very successful solo career.
- International success before social media and streaming were a thing.
- They were the first ones to have a real world tour, first international awards, etc.
- YG made BIGBANG but BIGBANG made YG. YG ent is one of the "BIG 4" all thanks to BB. Many kpop fans doesn't seem to know this, but YGE was extremely poor (like going bankrupt level) and a small company when BB were trainees and debuted and thanks to their success they are now one of the biggest companies out there. BB was responsible for over 60% of YGEs income at one point and for some time too.
- First mini albums.
- They were always themselves, goofy, weird and funny. So group members now can also be more free to who they are.
- High fashion in kpop (mainly GD.. and TOP)
- Crazy hair colors (mainly GD again)
- The list goes on..
They've had some scandals over the years (some real and some not) but in my opinion most of it is just South Korean media (and knets) hating on them (they always have) and them being grown up men just living their life in a super conservative world of kpop idols.
What I personally like the most about them is that they really don't give a f**k about anything anymore, they just do what they like the most and that is excellent music. With this modern era of kpop with the super conservative rules it'll be fun to see BB shake things up when they finally appear in the public again with BB or solo promotions!! The world of kpop was very different when I started my kpop journey in 2010... groups were collaborating, male and female idols were collaborating and were friends in public, no useless scandals over every little thing and the fandoms weren't nearly as toxic as they are now, ah the golden era of kpop. I miss those days. Newer fans have no idea what they have missed out on.
I would recommend to start either from the start or go with the MADE album. All songs from that album (except If You, see the tour report for this one) has an MV. Also they all have excellent solo music with their own flare. Please check out Daesung (D-Lite) - Anymore (live Japan dome tour 2017) and TOP - Doom Dada (MV) for starters.
They are hilarious people so variety shows are a must: Happy together, weekly idol, Radio Star, all the Running Man episodes with BB are golden, Run Bigbang scout and the MADE movie.
Bigbang will eat BTS Alive if BTS was debuted on their Late 2000's era 😂 thats a Fact
"He's oozing main character energy" New addition to my GD-vocabulary.
MAMA 2013 is one of the best MAMA in the history. The stage, the hyped crowd and the line up of artist/performers are iconic!
To correct information about Seungri and the Burning Sun case:
He was not involved in Burning Sun. At all. Victims and those involved even came forward and said he wasn't even involved in it and that his name was used simply because he had a small share in the club since he had a hobby of DJing years ago. During that time, he was busy due to running the Black Label and being the CEO of his ramen chain to even visit clubs and hadn't DJed in a long time. He was acquainted with JJY - the one who was responsible for the Burning Sun - but only as much as every other celebrity back then. Even TH-camrs knew JJY but only a select few knew about the dr*gs and r*pes - all of whom went to jail immediately and many of whom who are already out or near the end of their sentences. Those involved in Burning Sun got VERY small punishments and even got reduced time by writing "letters of reflection" (bullsh*t). Even JJY was given only like 6 years and his time was reduced to 5 years.
Seungri was made into a scapegoat because the reporter who outed the Burning Sun case hinted at him as "Singer Lee" and she spread lies to create drama, fanning the flames of her report and making her seemingly a hero. "Singer Lee" in the group chat was actually another artist who was thrown in jail with the others, but Seungri's name had already been dragged through the mud. People lied and said it was "Seungri's Club" when he owned the smallest share and didn't even visit. He cooperated fully with the investigation to prove his innocence, but the case dragged on for years even after the others were jailed. This is because the public had grown to distrust him and despite evidence AND testimonies proving he wasn't involved, the public wanted him to be punished. To protect his group from the backlash he was facing, he quit YG and stepped away from everything to wait for his case to be over.
His case was drawn out so long that his time for the military came, so the case was handed to the military court. While serving his military service, he was also going to court frequently as their investigation continued. Since they didn't find anything to connect him to the Burning Sun case, they searched for anything that would put him behind bars. Most prominent in these findings after years of searching, they punished Seungri for gambling overseas with YG himself and a few others (which is illegal for Korean citizens), not doing proper paperwork to exchange money for said gambling in Vegas, minor health code violations at one of his restaurants, etc. Most notable to the public among these, though, was that he is said to have been at a party where prostitutes were provided to foreign businessmen; however this was also said to be the wives of the businessmen rather than prostitutes as the defense put forward. In the end, Seungri accepted their findings since everyone was tired of this drawn out case and accepted whatever punishment his country wanted him to have. He accepted a sentence of one and a half years of prison and paying a fine. He finished his military service and promptly moved to serve his sentence.
Did Seungri make mistakes and was he part of some shady things? Sure, but many of it are minor mistakes and even the major ones listed were said to not be entirely true like the "prostitutes or wives" fiasco.
Was he part of Burning Sun and did he r*pe people like some suggest? No. He was never part of that harassment, a**ault, and the molka chat. People like to push him as a r*pist because they refuse to read about the case and educate themselves. It's okay to educate yourself on a case and realize you maybe had a wrong idea at first.
Do you have to forgive him? Of course not. Nobody is asking people to forgive him, but it's still exhausting to see misinformation being spread. Not one person ever mentions JJY, Junhyung, Jonghoon, Jonghyun, or any of the others who were part of the molka chat. Even the Wiki page for Burning Sun lists Seungri's name first and his face is plastered to the post. His face was the face of the entire case rather than JJY who dr*gged and r*ped countless women and posted their videos into the molka chat. JJY is the real monster of that case and it's important to spread that rather than say that Seungri was to blame.
You can find the full case documented for education on Twitter and other various spots online. It's up to your own opinion for whether you watch content with Seungri or not according to your own comfort, but don't let your viewers give you wrong information about something so serious. It's not fair to the victims.
Edit: I also want to stress that this is not just a delusional fan type of post. I used to be a fan of JJY's solo music and his band Drug Restaurant (which looking back on it the name of the band aged so poorly after what he was found to be doing). I dropped his music so fast and can't even enjoy the songs I used to like because I can only think about what he did. If Seungri had done something so severe, I'd also drop his a** just as fast. However, he's innocent in the Burning Sun case and never did anything as horrific as what those others did. It's not the fan that makes VIPs try to correct information, it's us as human beings wanting people to know the truth for the sake of the victims. Nobody seems to be furious over the fact that many of those r*pists and those in the molka chat were given such small sentences that were basically a slap on the wrist. I'd love to see the public demand JJY get an extended sentence and condemn the judge who dared to reduce his sentence, but barely anybody seems to even curse him.
I agree wholeheartedly with your synopsis. I have never been a fan of Seungri, his attitude irritated me from years back, BUT when this scandal broke, it was clearly media hyped. Seungri was steadfast, he fully cooperated, he took drug tests, his entire business history was combed over by literally hundreds of investigators. After choosing the path of scapegoating Seungri, the police and prosecutors investigated for TWO FREAKING YEARS, and still they only came up with petty bs that could have been administratively fined and put away. BUT they were too far in, they had to make it appear those were serious charges. One topic the social commenters in SK returned to time and again: equitable sentencing for "crimes" of other citizens in comparison. Fines that had been resolved years ago were brought into court as if they were not already addressed, "crimes" not really considered as part of that particular law used to pad the charges. Monies intermingled in Seungris businesses, minor issues of bookkeeping suddenly become EMBEZZLEMENT. All of it was hyped to feed the flames angering the SK citizens, but when asked about the ACTUAL charges, SK citizens could NOT name them. They remembered what the media incorrectly stated, but not the real charges. Ask any NETIZEN who followed the first week of the case, they will not believe that any allegations were proven false. They JUST know what the media stated then, continue to state falsely and refuse to correct. THAT is why Wikipedia still has paragraph after paragraph WRONG on every article related to Burning Sun. They chronicled all of it based ONLY on the media play, perhaps knowing the media was determined to put Seungri behind bars from day one. JJY, the RAPIST GANGBANGER LEADER, got less media coverage than admitted gambler Seungri. It was simply because Seungri just would not fold. He stood tall for three years, that arrogant part of him that irritated me, was the exact trait that allowed him to fight until the end. I don't know where Seungri will go after completing his sentence, but he should go proudly, an entire nation didn't change his mind about right and wrong.
Seungri was in one of the most popular kpop groups at the time and we all know how some people like to try to drag down & destroy those in the biggest groups.
Seungri is not handling The Black Label. It was YGX. You mustve been confused.
@@kathleensouthern9997"I don't know where Seungri will go after completing his sentence, but he should go proudly, an entire nation didn't change his mind about right and wrong."
This part hit me hard. 😭 It's always what I want Seungri to be. Go out there proudly, slap the nation w/ his truth especially those people all behind it. But there's a part of me just want him to live peacefully. Leave SK if possible?😔
I'm only in a minute of the vid and i just stopped when he said something about Seungri... I saw this comment and as a VIP, thank you. Not anyone are open minded to learn about the truth so thank you for your explanation, i hope everybody will read this.
*PS Seungri used to handle YGX, not TBL.
Big-bang and snsd are the royalty of kpop you need to do more live performances by them they were the best live
ughhhh this gives me chills to this day, but my favorite mama was the 2012 one with bigbang, epik high and psy and other amazing performances
Bigbang yeah love them! Hopefully you will read about seungri yourself (real things not the false media/vlogs) ... all witness that lied recanted all their lies - even the guys who admitted their guilt said he did nothing wrong, not one victim named him.. Korean laws are not like U.S . The judge found him guilty anyway. Don't let the haters spread false information. Seungri was not and will never be my favorite artist but lies for the sake of fandoms is just wrong, this whole thing involves people's lives and is not a joke or a plaything for heartless children. I said what I said. Now, pop-on Bigbang!!!!kings
bigbang is the blueprint of KPOP.
1. they made the 1st light stick
2. made the airport fashion
and many more
It seems people told you misinformation about Seungri... He was used basically he only crime was gambling... He is not involved in Molka chat and he is not involved in Burning Sun neither, Seungri's case is different... In Molka chat he was in another chat room what happened was the guy(another idol he was jailed but despite all the effort of the victims for making him stay longer he'll be free soon😤) who drugged, rapped and filmed girls was in that Business chat were Seungri was part of. In this Bussines chat that other idol called Jung Joon Young accidentally shared a 20 seconds video of consensual sex but not consensual share this video was suddenly deleted by JJY under request of the other people in the business Chat... Actually Jung Joon Young wanted share that video on his private chat(the Molkachat) where other idols and friends of him watched his criminal content....
Burning Sun this case was debunked on 2019 but kmedia spreaded a lot of misinformation back then that make it a case when actually the only crime committed by the CEO and an employee was drugs dealing. Yes it happened that in the club girls were harassed but it wasn't under the administration of the club knowledge, it was a chaebol(heir) that used to go to that club and assault girls, the same chaebol that later on after being kicked out of that club, accused Burning Sun of prostitution ring, the same chaebol that spend his time throwing hate on BIGBANG as a whole, the same chaebol that promised to destroy BIGBANG and YGE, the same chaebol that was and still is called "hero" by uneducated international kpop fans🤦🏻♀️... That same "hero" tried to abuse women and have many charge against him for women assault😤...
Seungri's case it was a lost case since the very beginning he gave all the proof of his innocence but the Military Judge without considering Seungri's proof of his innocence that he brought during his whole 25 Court hearings, that judge decided to sentenced him due Seungri's idol image, by bringing up the reputation of their country, by reading a gossip article instead of the reliable proof brought at Court😑... Seungri's case is a failure in the sistem and a shame for the law.. Seungri is innocent😔
Thank you. Im so mad with ppl who know nothing about Ri's case and judge him just by only single article that they read. Most of all news on internet are bullshit just make seungri image bad.
So sad many people don't know about it. Specialy nonkorean fans, just eat up all news without knowing the truth
Bruh just imagine shock when i learn that prosecutor used Seungri's movie as an evidence.
Up up! So many people assuming they know what happened when they actually don't
THIIISSSSS!!!!
UP UP UP!!!
BIGBANG KINGs of KPOP. Priodt. No one, yes, No one can replace them. RESPECT.
They are gods. GD and BigBang are the ones who came up with the concepts of light sticks and crazy hair colors. GD wanted to be able to see where in the audience his fans were at big performances like MAMA and for them to be able to see him.
As I watch your video, I get to see the description of this scandal which I never do because it's bullshit. It's bullshit, no other way to describe it. If you do some research (not just google) you'll know what I mean. All these SA charges are not related to Seungri or burning sun club. Seungri only knew these people, that's all. Looking at Seungri's charges which took them 2 and a half years to accomplish and had no victims, you can see how ridiculous they are. Where are the SA, drug charges? But Seungri refused to confess to things that he didn't do even after 50 interrogations, over 10 hours each by the police. I thank him for being so strong because no other person can endure this torture. Wouldn't you give up when the police say, 'You'd better confess. We received order from above. There's no other solution.' Yes, I read this from court testimonies.
Don't do bad stuff, I agree. But more important thing is, don't just believe the things you're told.
UP
what? It's always annoying when people start talking and throwing hate without taking the time to find out real information about Seungri's case. We are 2022, near to 2023 and many things were clarified with this case, Seungri isn't the ringleader as they want to imply, there are more powerful heads behind this, who are now sitting calmly in their home because the media and the public only concentrated their hatred on the public figure. 2nd he onl only accepted a charge that is gambling, it is illegal in Korea.The case of Chat Molka, the person ''Lee'' turned out to be another idol, who already confessed and was only given probation and a bail. The alleged prostitutxs went to testify and stated that Seungri was not the one who hired them. Seungri was an occasional DJ at Burning Sun. Burning sun was so famous disco, many famous people (idols) consumed in that place.
In the other hand, BIGBANG are and always will be 5. If you do not support the 5, you are not a real VIP, BIGBANG's members are humans too like us.
The group who had individual concept and charisma even when performing together. Haha😂
There are famous idol groups and then there are those what we call LEGEND... and BigBang is both famous and Legendendary iconic. THE KING OF KPOP. I'm a full pledge pearl aqua blooded SHAWOL ( SHINee Fandom ) and we respect and acknowledge their unmatchable contribution to the Kpop industry. Full package idols, they are and forever THE KING OF KPOP.
Here are some FACTS about Seungri’s ”scandal”.
He was an essential part of Bigbang. It will be very different without him (if they even make an actual comeback as Bigbang without Seungri, I have my doubts). I'm still heartbroken about what happened to him. I wish he would come back but it's not likely at least for a long time. And knowing what koreans and knetz are like... not likely. It's a long and complicated story of what happened and why he left but to summarise it was a super messy and a very public witch hunt. And anti-Seungri people, please read all the way through before hating on me in the comments.
I'll just give a very general story of how it went here for you: It started in early 2019 with the burning sun club issues (sexual harrasment in the club, money laundring etc.) and grew up to be the worst scandal ever. All the headlines were: Seungri’s club Burning Sun has done this and that, Seungri involved in this and that. He got blamed for doing ugly things that weren’t true (and yes it has been proven he wasn't a part of Jung Joon Young's chat case (secretly photographing girls and rape) at all and all the guilty people were sent to prison already) and some reporters even made very ugly things up to get bigger and bigger headlines and were later sentenced to prison for that. It got very dark and ugly. There were public appeals made for him to commit suicide... that is not ok. He was the most loved maknae one day and the next everybody hated his guts.
They started a full on investigation about everyhting about his life, work and businesses (he owned or co-owned clubs, restaurants etc) to find ANY sign or proof of his wrongdoings. They even forced him and all of Bigbang members to have drug tests, all were negative (South Korea has VERY strict drug laws). They tried to dig up evidence against him for gambling (illegal for Korean citizens), arranging escort ladies for business partners in Japan etc for 3 years and got nothing. Early in 2022 he got 1,5 years in prison because he admitted to the charges (of gambling and arranging escorts in Japan).
In South Korea the conviction rate is 99% which is absurdly high and it’s practically impossible to get an innocent verdict in a court hearing. They only care about the numbers of convictions and not if the person actually did anything. It’s more appropiate to admit guilt whether you are guilty or not, do your time and reflect on your wrongdoings and you might have a chance still in the future.
So even though he was adamant for the past 3 years of not addmitting guilt he's probably very tired and exhausted after all this time so it was a better option for him considering the future.
The media has never cleared his name in the older issues about him so most kpop fans and koreans still think it's all him. They used his name at the start of the scandal: Seungri's club burning sun (he owned about 5% of the club and DJ'd there sometimes), Seungri's chat etc. Because it's Seungri, he was part of the most loved group and a very popular member and a megastar. The shock value was big. They got way more readers that way so the scandals (especially the chat scandal) were tied to him closely even though it never was him.
All the while the issues some of us are certain they wanted to cover with Seungri's case are totally forgotten. The SOPA scandal and the burning sun related money laundring cases that included some important people in SK. I still get so mad just thinking about this whole issue and how Seungri's life and career are ruined forever. Some people are starting to belittle Seungri's effect on Kpop while he was in Bigbang because of this, the truth is his and Bigbangs impact on kpop was huge no matter what happened after.
If you are guilty you have to pay for your crimes but this very public witch hunt was way over the proportion of his crimes, which are at the level of gambling...
Sorry for the long rant. I'm just mad and heartbroken about this still.
And seungri will come out February 2023🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
We will wait for him. He is our VICTORY after all.
ㅋㅋㅋ... 한국인으로서 웃음이 나오네 한국에서 유죄 판정 받기 쉽지 않아 대부분 무혐의나 집행유예가 나오지...ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 10살 아동을 강간해서 죽여도 15년이면 나오는 나라야.
Thank you so much. I know it is 2 month after your comment. But still I loved it so much
@@mayaisse9313 I am waiting patiently, very nervous.
All Bigbang's MAMA performances are really on top! They are the standard ! Nobody does it like them..the charisma and energy ...rap and vocals are the best.. since Korean music Festival to Mama they ate the most viewed and waited performances...you check their stages since 2009
You should definitely checked another Big Bang MAMA Stage, they killed ‘em!❤️🔥 LEGEND
Actually you are doing bad shit right now by just simple judging and assuming something towards Seungri w/o knowing everything.. 1.The so called victims denies his participation, infact they said that it was the police who interviewed them who linked Seungri..
2. Those women that they said that was Seungri's gift to his business partner in a party was proven that it was actually the wife of those business from japan and china and not a prostitute.
3. He was presented as the mastermind but later on the prosecuter after 24th hearing change it as accompliance.
4. He was tested 3 times even with hair to drugs and tested negative.
5. He even surrender all his cp, give all his address even the place of his parents and sister to the authority.
6. He asked the police to have a lie detector while interogation but they decline and i wonder why coz it can really make their works easier.
7. He was not one of the owner just an investor.
8. Reporters was caught manipulating and editing the group chat where they can find those malicious act and they did say sorry for that.
9. The mr. Lee in the group chat was reported as Seungri but later on it was proven that the Mr. Lee theyre talking is not Seungri.
10. The most fuck up of all? Those people who rapes and drugs women was only sentenced by 2.5 years just because they write an apology letter while Seungri who was just drag into this mess became the center of this scandal.. those culprit dont even last for months being reported by media they all focus to Seungri🙄🙄. Possible reason? To divert the attention of people toward Seungri and avoid it to the Samsung's heir that time..thats how nasty korea..theyll use Kpop Idols and make any Scandals even with dating scandals theyll do it to cover up the messy things in korea.. i remember back then they ise kpop idols to cover up the bullying issue in korea's national volleyball team, same thing with some politician being caught.
11. Oh let me add this coz this is how low prosecutors are.. i mean they use Seungri's Movie where he act like a gangster or mafia boss something to prove that he was in a gangster group.
My VIP heart SOOOOOOARS!! Please learn more about BigBang. they are more than just their scandals. These boys grew up with each other and had to train with little to no food together to get where they were. The rest of the band is hurt by all of this, and doesn't want to be remembered just by this. I stopped listening to KPOP when they went on hiatus and only now came back for Stray Kids.
They were also one of the first idol groups to kinda forgo dance performances and just be themselves on stage. Up until now, there really isn't many groups that can just do that on stage.
There isn't a BigBang song that I don't like, even if I cringe at their early R&B videos.
this really brings back memories 😅 I almost become VIP just from watching their performances on MAMA before.. their stage presence really 👍👍👍 it's really fun to watch MAMA performances from back then..
The illegal videos were filmed by other idols. And it has nothing to do with victims.
He is not guilty. To the extent that they hang on it. Night girls at the last trial confirmed that he did not hire them. but the "accusation" craved his head on the chopping block.
Aw, c'mon. Everything that happened to that guy isn't 100% FACTUAL. The Burning Sun is supposed to be a big case that went to smokes because they end up using Seungri as the face of the whole scandal. All the focus went to him. And they made him the face of all that happened in 2019. His only association with the club is his small investment, and he also sometimes go there to DJ, so there's a lot of web of lies spread since 2019.
Even when the guy was sentenced, the judge felt that the findings against him was not enough to consider him guilty, but due to the immense public scrutiny, he had to give him a bit of a heavy sentence. Yes, in South Korea, public outcry can influence outcome of cases. That's the only way to shut up the public. And for everyone's information, admitting guilt doesn't mean he is GUILTY. He only admitted GUILT to one of the charges, and that was gambling. He remained firm before investigation up to the end of the trial. But during plea bargaining he decided to admit guilt. The man was tired of defending himself and he didn't want to continue anymore. Plea bargaining exist around the world, and there are many instances that the defendant will end up admitting to something they didn't do. That also applies to him.
And if you pay close attention to BIGBANG members, we can tell, they didn't abandon him. That includes the people who know him well.
Finally someone spoke up. I was so sad hearing all those things Sebastian said in the reaction. Especially after consistently translating articles for 2 and a half years, comparing fact and reading court documents. And still nobody listens... People keep messing his accusations with actual rap**ts. Nobody cares he has no victims, he kept saying the same things from the very beginning of all this shit, even people (on prosecutor's side) at court defending him.
Still people keep messing Burning sun scandal with another ones. His accusations have basically no relation with The Real Burning Sun scandal.. There was a nice Korean article saying media actually tries to erase that Burning Sun scandal using him. Like there is a real problem with clubs in SK like BS but look carefully through his accusations.... They have nothing to do with the whole thing.
It went like this: Scandal happened - suddenly he became a face of it (it was really strange from the very beginning) - real rap**t were sentenced - they are searching on him and making accusations which basically has nothing to do with that BS scandal (such as gambling) but he is already the face of BS scandal so people are thinking it's the same (and it's not!) - they raise the number of accusations trying to add as much as possible (some of them make really no sense at all, especially when you read everything about it. Like his birthday party.) - and then sentenced him (he was fighting until the very end doing as much as possible to clear his name).
And still people knew this scandal as BS scandal while the REAL Burning Sun case was closed like in 2019.
This whole story is a mess, so if u think you know everything about it, you are wrong.
Even people who read all the documents (believe me we did) didn't know what exactly was this.
Only one thing I know: it's not that simple as you think.
Yes. Tell em. 💛💛💛💛💛
And, honestly, how much more could he afford to fight after the appellate court? They made him admit guilt to all, whilst stating several charges were NOT PROVEN. After that long of time, I bet Seungri was just tired, his fortune was gone, his reputation was gone, his family that counted on him financially(Aori Ramen owners, aunts, uncles, cousins, mom, dad) were struggling. It is heart breaking that even TODAY, the media has still not corrected or updated any of the debunked "facts" that were printed and aired. The FunE reporter Kang? There is a special place in hell for that lying bitch, she tried to save Choi Jong Hoon by presenting Seungri name and face over and over again. She had those chat messages for a long time, she shared them, along with the videos with hundreds of reporters and producers. Those media ilk were recorded making comments about the rape victims bodies. THEN they scapegoat Seungri? The prosecution decided to set aside any charges for the media of MOLKA. How interesting. Even Yoochuns drug issued was presented as having to do with Seungri. Every single person in this wide scoped situation, had their crimes blamed on Seungri. The WHY of this is not clear yet, but one day, it will all come out.
they even did the first ever light stick!! the yellow ones in the crowd
King's of kpop
Ok. About the Seungri thing. Other than ONE charge, which he admitted to, EVERY other one was proven a lie, but the prosecution wanted to convict him. This isn't just a fan blindly defending him. You can read all this if you want or ignore it if you aren't interested in facts that came out during the court case. I repeat, FACTS, NOT MEDIA SLURS AND RUMORS.
In 2019, a number of allegations related to club Burning Sun, a nightclub founded in 2018 and managed by two CEOs; Lee Moon-ho and Lee Seong-hyu, were raised against Seungri due to his affiliation with the business as a creative director/shareholder and occasional DJ. He was also by FAR the highest profile person in the investigation.
The allegations included drug use and arranging sexual favors for investors, among others. Media also shared KakaoTalk conversations with messages ALLEGEDLY shared between him and Burning Sun employees about such arrangements in relation to the prostitution allegation.
During a press conference on March 4 the Police revealed that the original, unedited KakaoTalk messages were not submitted to them, and journalists later admitted that they manipulated the kakaoTalk messages Seungri sent before sharing them with the public and the police.
In regards to the drug charges, on March 10, Seungri underwent a second round of drug testing; hair and urine samples were tested, and the results were ALL NEGATIVE.
On March 11, 2019, Seungri announced on his Instagram account his retirement from the entertainment industry, stating that the criticism and hate he received in the past month had driven him to this move in order to protect Big Bang and YG Entertainment. He also stated that he would fully cooperate with the investigation.
On April 25, Seungri denied the prostitution charges related to a 2015 Christmas party, while Yoo In-seok admitted that HE called and paid for entertainers for Japanese investors. The women also admitted the Seungri had NOTHING to do with it.
On May 8, after a total of 17 closed-door police interrogations, the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency requested an arrest warrant for Seungri. On May 14, Seoul District Court rejected the arrest warrant saying that embezzlement, a major charge, was open to dispute, and that it was difficult to certify the reasons for detention have been met, such as the destruction of evidence, for the remaining suspicions which included prostitution mediation. In addition, the court's reason for rejection included prosecution's INABILITY TO SHOW THE EXISTENCE AND SCOPE OF CRIMINAL LIABILITY OF SEUNGRI!!!
On June 25, the police stated that his case has been forwarded to prosecution with seven charges: procuring sex service, prostitution mediation, embezzlement of business funds for hiring a legal representative, embezzlement of club Burning Sun revenues, attempt at destruction of evidence, distribution of illegally-filmed content via social platforms, and violation of the Food Sanitation Act. THE ARREST WARRANT WAS AGAIN DENIED.
Seungri enlisted in the military on March 9, 2020, and his case was transferred to the military court.
His trial started on September 16, consisting in eight charges. Seungri denied all charges except one, violation of the Foreign Exchange Transactions Act (bringing over 10,000 in foreign currency into the country without declaring it).
During the trial, the witnesses confirmed that it was Yoo In-Seok who ordered prostitution, not Seungri, and Yoo in-seok again admitted it was him and not Seungri.
Regarding the charge of distributing obscene material, Seungri stated that he only shared with friends a photo that wasn't taken by him, but was sent to him from an entertainment bar. He NEVER took or shared pics or video of women without their permission.
For the charge of habitual gambling, Seungri's lawyer answered that Seungri didn't gamble as a habit, and that he visited the USA for work and not purposely for gambling. Habitual gambling is illegal but not gambling for momentary pleasure.
As to the embezzlement charges, even the other owners of the business stated he did NOT embezzle any money.
Seungri's charges also include Violation of Food Sanitation Act (for inappropriately declaring Monkey Museum as a restaurant instead of an entertainment establishment). Hardly a major crime!
When they realized he might be found not guilty, on January 14 the prosecution added against Seungri the charge of eliciting violence. In 2015, a drunk customer in a bar entered into the private room of Seungri and his acquaintances: the prosecution claimed that after an argument, Seungri called Yoo In-Seok who involved gang members into the argument to threaten the man. However, Seungri claimed that he didn't have anything to do with any gangsters, and during the 15th hearing one of the alleged victims said that he never felt threatened at the time, while the other one stated that Seungri wasn't even involved in the incident.
The trial also encountered an issue related to confirmation bias: on March 25, 2021, after the 13th hearing for Seungri's trial, a witness claimed that the police had written up a statement against Seungri that he actually NEVER made. Prosecution's other witnesses also claimed that the investigators put pressure on them TO GIVE FALSE TESTIMONIES, probably due to the pressure from media and public to find Seungri guilty. Many of the witnesses also claimed that the prosecution slightly CHANGED THEIR ANSWERS AND TESTIMONY or seemed to have designed questioning with the target of necessarily arriving at Seungri's name.
Seungri stated MULTIPLE times that he was innocent of all but one minor charge and that he only plead guilty to all charges after MULTIPLE instances of coercion, threats and bullying by police and prosecutors.
Nailed it ❤
thank you for reaction about bigbang im miss them so much in stage,,no matter how many idol kpop in korea its still feel empty without bigbang, and gdragon is the firs male korean idol wich is invited as brand ambasador from chanel when that time no one from korea become brand ambasador from other country
Every bigbang MAMA or live stage is A whole new experience
I really do hope that you check out more of Big Bang. They're a really great group. They truly paved the way for everything going on in Kpop right now. Everything we all know and love. You'll be surprised at the things they've done
GD got me into Kpop back in 2013 ish 🙆🏻♀️🙆🏻♀️
Bigbang got me into Kpop and I was OBSESSED with G-Dragon. They were my ult group and GD was my ult bias. They are ICONIC. I'd say def the kings of 2nd gen.
Big Bang. I miss these guys so much. God they were the kings man. Everyone of them are charismatic as fuck.
MAMA 2014 for me is the best when GD dissed MAMA in MAMA AHAHAHHA
We love Bigbang live performance❤wish more and more Bigbang 👑
im sorry but please don't talk about Burning Sun if you don't follow the case from the start. this is a sensitive topic. most of what is on the internet is kmedia bullshit. I ask for your understanding. thank you
BIGBANG IS A KING!!!!!!!! NO ONE CAN CHANGE THE FACT! GD IS KING!!!!
MAMAs were just Big Bang concerts, now they are like school talent competitions with perfect synchronized dances with no soul
Their mama performances were amazing, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2015...
The only set of people that would turn an award show into concert, damn!!!!!!!
Was watching 11 years ago and still watching now , mamas’2014 was the climax for BB ❤
bigbang kings of kpop, all of them, u can say anything bad about them but they're legendary....the only group that koreans will have love n hate relationship, the only group still relevant after 16 years with amount of scandals, no one can be like bigbang!!! n i love vips are educated now, they read, study n use their brain to analyze seungri scandal, thumbs up!!!
G-DRAGON is THE REASON why Jungkook wanted to be idol. Thanks to GD's performance, Jungkook wanted to become a singer.. and thanks to him, we now have a damn talented singer like Jeon Jungkook
No one in N.Flying was part of the scandal, it was Jonghyun from CNBLUE (Participated in the chats) and the leader of FT.Island.
The ex-leader of N.Flying was part of another scandal were he dated a fan or something and he left the group, but pls, don't misinform if you are not sure, guys...
This is about seungri's case th-cam.com/users/shortsQrXV2FZfnoY?feature=share
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@@rabindarya2206 Seungri case was different from the burning sun scandal. To cover up the scandal they used his name if you follow the case you will know. Tuely which you didn't
@@sangisailo2514 What? Are You OK? You didnt see What I send, see those videos than we can talk.from your comment I understand that You didnt see those, I Know seungri's case and these Videos help everyone to understand What kind ofshit dirty play kmedias did in seungri's case.
I came here for my Kings performance but then you screamed "is that 2NE1😳?".. I swear God I cried of joy👏🤧, finally someone recognized my girls here in BIGBANG👑 video of their performance😭.. My BLACKJACK heart is thankful🥺♠️... 2NE1👑 performed LONELY and MISSING YOU that year at MAMA2013 one of their best performances👏😭♠️
Watching "Happy Together - Big Bang Special" is a recommend to learn more
Yes Bigbang performances are top tier
Idgaf what other poeple said but Bigbang is the top tier artist. Nobody can be on their level in kpop industry. All of them have their own charms and vibe by that I mean, included Seungri.
The fact that a lot if not all new kpop fans who got into bts or these other 3rd and 4th gen groups, didn't go back and learn the history of kpop and check out older groups is crazy to me. But I kinda get it a lot of fans stan only 1 group so they're not technically kpop fans but still, every new group was influenced by these 2nd gen legends.
I got into kpop in 2011 or before (i don't remember) and I watched everything lol, I watched all the variety shows that brought different people each ep and watched every mv and got to know all of them and that was honestly the best time of my life
Nah, they're just in denial. They set up their idols way too high whereas apparently, there are other groups much better than their faves.
And I can't stop look at baby rookies exo in the back line 🤣🤣🤣🤍🤍🤍
So crazy they are can standing with these kings 🔥👑
I really wasn't trying to say anything in your comments about this, but everyone that was in your chat was giving you the wrong information.
Seungri is innocent and had nothing at all to do with the burning sun scandal or the group chats. Every victim involved cleared his name and so did every victim. They all said he was not involved
There's lots of articles online with sources that tells the truth about it including his involvement
He did go to jail, but the only reason was because of public opinion. They didn't want to "upset" the public. This is a reason people say he was used as a scapegoat
I hope that you read this and learn the truth
I am very glad to see such comments. of course, not many people will believe this, because there are too many people who confidently call him a terrible criminal. few people followed the trial, many simply decided that the accusation is the verdict😤 I hope such comments make at least a small number of people look for REAL information, and not believe everyone in words
Hateful people are jealous imbeciles.
@@Ppompuru I hope so too. I hate how little people look into the case and learn the truth. There's so much misinformation being spread all of the time and it's sad
facts, dudes in chat were talking out of their asses... and like why they asking to skip his performance? he was a part of bigbang and that written on stone, they cant just delete his history
@@Nelsonsilvery Exactly. My guess is that they weren't VIPs. It's always the outsiders that are haters
Big bang live marathon is a musttt!🔥 you have no idea
really thank you for this reaction 🤩 Bigbang are awesome, truly kings¡¡
THIS AND 2015 MAMA WAS IT. like that 2015 mama was best imo. 2ne1 CL BIGBANG taeyeon rookie ikon exo OML THAT WAS SOMETHING ELSE. Do check out
If you guys did not know, airport fashion becomes a thing thanks to GD. lol
"he was every idols idol"
No... He is.
Yaaaassss!!! So excited you are reacting to BigBang MAMA performance!
This is THE BEST mama performance, to-this-day.
THE KINGS 👑
Everybody's Idols , idols.....
Bigbang was the first kpop group have light stick in KPOP industry and it's called bangbong
You should check out EXO's performance there too. They were rookies there but they ate!! 2013 MAMA is just too good.
Yes they are real kings of kpop🤴
Someone in the comments just said bigbang is 3 and TOP left the group like why you all lying to the people💀💀💀
DEAR YOU HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WITH SEUNGRI YOU SHOULD EDUCATED YOURSELF BEFORE TALKING ABOUT ALL THAT DRAMA
Persecuted by association thats Suengri.
This group is famous in Philippines too 🇵🇭🤘
Bigbang & 2ne1 are LEGENDARY Kpop idol grp.
Big Bang yesssssssss! GDragon!! yessssssssssss!
The amount of lies in this video about seungris case is just amazing.
When you are multi fandom and enjoy all types of Korean music genres
OMGG GLAD THAT YOU FINALLY REACT TO THE REAL LEGENDARY KINGS IN KPOP INDUSTRY
finally you dive into my ult groups! BIGBANG and EXID! thank youuu
My OG kpop group, thanks for reacting to them
bigbang
top = doom dada
taeyang = ringa lingga
seungri = let's talk about love
daesung = (pink suit)
g dragon the king of K-pop
Blue is my favorite song from Bigbang.
G Dragon oozes charisma and stage presence like no other! Like everyone is a fan. Even quite a few American artists he worked with!
it's always the non bigbang fans talking about seungri and telling wrong things like ☠️ and he was the maknae and had least songs and promotion just like daesung around this time
I remember when TOP kissed Lee Hyori on the stage and everyone lost their minds
This happened at MAMA 2015 and the diss was at MAMA 2014
I MISS THOSE TIMES
IT WAS THE BEST MAMA EVER INDEED! they made it BIGBANG AND 2NE1 concert nothing can top this
they are the best.
the most autentic music~
masterpiece
G Dragon is the best composer, lyricist, PD, and leader 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤
BigBang will always be the warhammer of kpop 😭 thanks for reacting!
bigbang the legends PERIOD
Ah my faves, my ult, my kings!! Bigbang as a group is legendary, and the leader GD is by itself the King of KPOP. The most influencial idol ever. I miss them so much. And i am wating for Jiyong's comeback as a soloist!!!
Thank you for reacting💖🔥
All Bigbang performances are iconic