i don't trust anyone who *wants* to be a boss. there's something intrinsically wrong with that personality, some perverse psychological need that makes them want to control an environment and especially people. worse than that, those who want to be the boss are usually the ones who have no business being one as they're either ineffective 'buddies' or bullies. they see some great value in a fat bureaucracy, which is itself often the biggest problem. backwards philosophies at work here....
wow my manager qualifies for all 3.... this video is great and helps me to confirm that what I am dealing with is not a good manager... Thank you for this video!
I agree that the #3 bad manager cannot change. They could care less about many things in their dept. and sadly people (ironically, especially dependable workers!) are one of those things they do not value! Nothing is forever, and eventually these terrible bosses get a dose of their own medicine. But the good bosses, you always remember...........their humility, sacrifice and dedication, and patience are priceless!
and hand towels by installing air dryers. for most of these guys that's their big accomplishment of the week, but only after a series of meeting on the matter. most managers are professionals time-wasters to begin with. how many times have you stopped into a gas station with one register open during the busy time and the manager is in the back room pretending his paperwork is more important and can't wait instead of actually being helpful to his staff and customers by, you know, doing some work?
So far I only had overcompensated under-performing managers in my career. A manager who doesn't want to be challenged professionally in order to achieve higher team goals, a manager who is incapable of stimulating his (sales) team, a manager who isn't a spirit that drives you closer to success but rather limits a sales person's energy and creativity deserves nothing less than a neck shot. That's my humble opinion.
'lousy leaders' is a contradiction in terms. a real leader may err on occasion, they're only human, but they ultimately motivate naturally and make sound decisions ppl can put their trust in. i've said it a thousand times: there are leaders and then there are supervisors. not the same thing, necessarily, although these charlatans would have you think they're synonyms. you can't make a leader via training and seminars any more than you can make a hallmark card writer shakespeare.
I was explaining a problem to a manager...and he told me I was stressed out and handed me a health services paper. Is this a bad manager...I think it is. The supervisor even told me "If I have to stop and think, there is a problem,"....I seriously think if the supervisor tells you that...they need to be fired.
But, someone has to be the boss. And, shouldn't a person like or want to do their job? Is it wrong for a person to recognize that he/she has good leadership abilities and knows how to do a particular job very well? I am middle management. I am a boss and I have bosses. I worked my way up from the bottom at my company, and I hope to continue to rise. And trust me, it's not always fun to be the boss.
These types of managers don't just need support, they need consequences. That what is always missing in these situations. You can send bad managers to as many seminars and trainings as you want, but they're not going to change until they have to. In most organizations, once someone is promoted to management it's like they've ascended to the throne. They'll fire the whole staff, or watch them quit, but they won't fire a bad manager who is liked and/or is useful to his/her boss. Seen it often.
and there's a difference imo b/c private and publicly owned co.'s and how large of a bureaucracy exists. in some, if not most, places advancement comes not with achievement and ability, rather attrition, moving up the ladder happens when someone dies, retires, quits or gets fired. based simply on their merits, and how many bosses would you sweep aside?
4. the hypocrite that operates on the 'do as i say, not as i do' way of 'leading' 5. the egomaniac who can't get enough ass-kissers in their lives, and who wil protect their sycophants over superior workers 6. the bully who clearly feels superior to those beneath them and has little regard for the comfort of people, their safety beyond what's mandatory or the maintenance of the equipment needed to perform work
I work in a factory one of the manager who is the ceo puts pressure on but yet asks how to do things? Other managers were there for years and are much better to go to on how things work? How this CEO got his job I would guess was through what i call 'a political pull' (getting in because you know someone but not the skills). I am a trainee employee but i think the ceo is nuts i have had a manager similar to this before but was made step down for her bullying in the workplace
7. the manipulator that withholds information and/or trickles it out to deceive workers. lies become management 'techniques' 8. the workshopper who actually believes that by some virtue of sitting through a seminar, workshop or watching some videos or perusing some manual/online text that they've achieved something 9. the anti-listener who wants you to hear their criticisms, yet can't be bothered to listen to yours
for me, the first rule of being boss should be don't make sure your ppl are doing their jobs, make sure that they're *able* to do their jobs. the 'being able' part typically means that you, as boss, aren't one of their obstacles! if your direct boss is an obstacle, if what they do and how they do it hinders you, then they have failed. bosses are about themselves, leaders are about the win.
i find the vast majority of ppl that want to be boss are doing it because it serves to plug a hole in their psychology because they need to feel needed, in control, and want respect. these are all terrible reasons to be a boss. then they can justify it by saying the opportunity was there and it pays better. only on a resume or applying for a new position does the phrase 'i want more responsibility and job challenge' ever get said.
by that, i mean there's a difference between leading and manipulating, for example. what if a boss doesn't realize what they do and how they do it are anti-productive methods? might as well call them overseers. afterall, they are the reason why unions exist, and it's that kind of mentality that garners a place a bad reputation. it's worse now since jobs are hard to come by and unions are generally pathetic corrupt tools of the employer, riding the wave til it crashes in a cheap money grab....
She doesn't tell us how all 3 of them made it this far? Off course they have something which really matters to the organizations which will take them further ahead.
or a pink slip. the thing is, not only does that manager fail, but so does *his* manager. the higher up you go the fewer ppl you have directly under you, so there's no reason, imo, not to be on top of them even with your 'greater' responsibilities. maybe spend more time at the water cooler than business luncheons? lol.
no, it's not wrong. what's wrong is having no charisma (which is in great part what 'leadership' is), towing the company line like a coward in every situation b/c 'it's my job,' hypocrisy, *and* wanting to have reign over ppl and situations. there is a difference between being a supervisor, a manager and a leader, imo. there is definitely a dark side to each, and it's to what degrees you allow that side to guide your actions/decisions....
good for you, mick, that's better than being a boss, that's leadership (i'm assuming this, of course, lol). it's easy to find a dictator with issues if all you want is an overbearing mouthpiece that creates resentment, it's entirely a different issue to find a leader. still, i aver that you can't learn to be a leader out of a bottle, book, video or seminar. those will only help hone your natural ability, otherwise a leader is who you are or it's not and no amount of pretending will make it real.
no doubt being a boss with bosses is tough. see it daily. i'm a small business owner, though, so being what you are would be a nightmare (no offense intended). i also work a day job so my wife doesn't have to (she does the store and i pick up the slack at the end of the day). i subtly see that the work is being done and hate the days when i have to show my ass. when the day comes that they dread seeing me, i know i've failed at being a good boss.
I'm not gonna ignore a bad manager on my watch, here's a video of a bad manager cursing and flipping off people th-cam.com/video/4ZNnCWXr_iY/w-d-xo.html
ppl have personality traits that suggest what kind of job they're inclined towards. fair statement, right? if that's not your innate personality, what these videos and books are telling you is that you can change your personality, essentially who you are, by simply imitating certain traits. that's my point, though: for some it's natural, for others it's a pale imitation. you can't fool mother nature, eh? lol. and you can't fool ppl who are negatively affected by bad bosses....
i don't trust anyone who *wants* to be a boss. there's something intrinsically wrong with that personality, some perverse psychological need that makes them want to control an environment and especially people. worse than that, those who want to be the boss are usually the ones who have no business being one as they're either ineffective 'buddies' or bullies. they see some great value in a fat bureaucracy, which is itself often the biggest problem. backwards philosophies at work here....
What about the big bully manager that tries to chase u out so then can get there friends in ur position, what about them bosses ?
wow my manager qualifies for all 3.... this video is great and helps me to confirm that what I am dealing with is not a good manager... Thank you for this video!
I agree that the #3 bad manager cannot change. They could care less about many things in their dept. and sadly people (ironically, especially dependable workers!) are one of those things they do not value! Nothing is forever, and eventually these terrible bosses get a dose of their own medicine. But the good bosses, you always remember...........their humility, sacrifice and dedication, and patience are priceless!
This works unless the HR is part of the problem!
+001FJ RIGHT!!!! at my work the managers and HR are all best friends and are constantly defending each other. It's so frustrating.
+WestCoastIrk At my work the manager take the HR lady out instead of his employees for Christmas lunch!
and hand towels by installing air dryers. for most of these guys that's their big accomplishment of the week, but only after a series of meeting on the matter. most managers are professionals time-wasters to begin with. how many times have you stopped into a gas station with one register open during the busy time and the manager is in the back room pretending his paperwork is more important and can't wait instead of actually being helpful to his staff and customers by, you know, doing some work?
So far I only had overcompensated under-performing managers in my career.
A manager who doesn't want to be challenged professionally in order to achieve higher team goals, a manager who is incapable of stimulating his (sales) team, a manager who isn't a spirit that drives you closer to success but rather limits a sales person's energy and creativity deserves nothing less than a neck shot. That's my humble opinion.
'lousy leaders' is a contradiction in terms. a real leader may err on occasion, they're only human, but they ultimately motivate naturally and make sound decisions ppl can put their trust in.
i've said it a thousand times: there are leaders and then there are supervisors. not the same thing, necessarily, although these charlatans would have you think they're synonyms. you can't make a leader via training and seminars any more than you can make a hallmark card writer shakespeare.
I was explaining a problem to a manager...and he told me I was stressed out and handed me a health services paper. Is this a bad manager...I think it is. The supervisor even told me "If I have to stop and think, there is a problem,"....I seriously think if the supervisor tells you that...they need to be fired.
But, someone has to be the boss. And, shouldn't a person like or want to do their job? Is it wrong for a person to recognize that he/she has good leadership abilities and knows how to do a particular job very well?
I am middle management. I am a boss and I have bosses. I worked my way up from the bottom at my company, and I hope to continue to rise. And trust me, it's not always fun to be the boss.
iv had some bad bosses but the boss is have now is the worst. I wish I could name and shame her right now!!!!
These types of managers don't just need support, they need consequences. That what is always missing in these situations. You can send bad managers to as many seminars and trainings as you want, but they're not going to change until they have to. In most organizations, once someone is promoted to management it's like they've ascended to the throne. They'll fire the whole staff, or watch them quit, but they won't fire a bad manager who is liked and/or is useful to his/her boss. Seen it often.
and there's a difference imo b/c private and publicly owned co.'s and how large of a bureaucracy exists. in some, if not most, places advancement comes not with achievement and ability, rather attrition, moving up the ladder happens when someone dies, retires, quits or gets fired. based simply on their merits, and how many bosses would you sweep aside?
4. the hypocrite that operates on the 'do as i say, not as i do' way of 'leading'
5. the egomaniac who can't get enough ass-kissers in their lives, and who wil protect their sycophants over superior workers
6. the bully who clearly feels superior to those beneath them and has little regard for the comfort of people, their safety beyond what's mandatory or the maintenance of the equipment needed to perform work
I work in a factory one of the manager who is the ceo puts pressure on but yet asks how to do things? Other managers were there for years and are much better to go to on how things work? How this CEO got his job I would guess was through what i call 'a political pull' (getting in because you know someone but not the skills). I am a trainee employee but i think the ceo is nuts i have had a manager similar to this before but was made step down for her bullying in the workplace
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7. the manipulator that withholds information and/or trickles it out to deceive workers. lies become management 'techniques'
8. the workshopper who actually believes that by some virtue of sitting through a seminar, workshop or watching some videos or perusing some manual/online text that they've achieved something
9. the anti-listener who wants you to hear their criticisms, yet can't be bothered to listen to yours
for me, the first rule of being boss should be don't make sure your ppl are doing their jobs, make sure that they're *able* to do their jobs. the 'being able' part typically means that you, as boss, aren't one of their obstacles! if your direct boss is an obstacle, if what they do and how they do it hinders you, then they have failed. bosses are about themselves, leaders are about the win.
i find the vast majority of ppl that want to be boss are doing it because it serves to plug a hole in their psychology because they need to feel needed, in control, and want respect. these are all terrible reasons to be a boss. then they can justify it by saying the opportunity was there and it pays better. only on a resume or applying for a new position does the phrase 'i want more responsibility and job challenge' ever get said.
by that, i mean there's a difference between leading and manipulating, for example. what if a boss doesn't realize what they do and how they do it are anti-productive methods? might as well call them overseers. afterall, they are the reason why unions exist, and it's that kind of mentality that garners a place a bad reputation. it's worse now since jobs are hard to come by and unions are generally pathetic corrupt tools of the employer, riding the wave til it crashes in a cheap money grab....
this does not take into consideration cultural differences that may play a part in the manager and subordinates.
jreda2000 Well it's the job of the individual you are referring to that they adapt to the culture not the other way around.
She doesn't tell us how all 3 of them made it this far?
Off course they have something which really matters to the organizations which will take them further ahead.
or a pink slip. the thing is, not only does that manager fail, but so does *his* manager. the higher up you go the fewer ppl you have directly under you, so there's no reason, imo, not to be on top of them even with your 'greater' responsibilities. maybe spend more time at the water cooler than business luncheons? lol.
no, it's not wrong. what's wrong is having no charisma (which is in great part what 'leadership' is), towing the company line like a coward in every situation b/c 'it's my job,' hypocrisy, *and* wanting to have reign over ppl and situations. there is a difference between being a supervisor, a manager and a leader, imo. there is definitely a dark side to each, and it's to what degrees you allow that side to guide your actions/decisions....
good for you, mick, that's better than being a boss, that's leadership (i'm assuming this, of course, lol). it's easy to find a dictator with issues if all you want is an overbearing mouthpiece that creates resentment, it's entirely a different issue to find a leader. still, i aver that you can't learn to be a leader out of a bottle, book, video or seminar. those will only help hone your natural ability, otherwise a leader is who you are or it's not and no amount of pretending will make it real.
nice i total understand this video
no doubt being a boss with bosses is tough. see it daily. i'm a small business owner, though, so being what you are would be a nightmare (no offense intended). i also work a day job so my wife doesn't have to (she does the store and i pick up the slack at the end of the day). i subtly see that the work is being done and hate the days when i have to show my ass. when the day comes that they dread seeing me, i know i've failed at being a good boss.
I'm not gonna ignore a bad manager on my watch, here's a video of a bad manager cursing and flipping off people th-cam.com/video/4ZNnCWXr_iY/w-d-xo.html
ppl have personality traits that suggest what kind of job they're inclined towards. fair statement, right? if that's not your innate personality, what these videos and books are telling you is that you can change your personality, essentially who you are, by simply imitating certain traits. that's my point, though: for some it's natural, for others it's a pale imitation. you can't fool mother nature, eh? lol. and you can't fool ppl who are negatively affected by bad bosses....