A friend of mine told me about Dr. Jennings today. I have not spoken to him for a long time I. am now watching this sermon. Thank you Donovan. Thank you Lord. 😊
I have discovered that one needs to tread very carefully when trying to introduce this kind of thinking to fellow church members. There are sermons delivered regularly at level 4. Two weeks ago we were told to teach our youngsters that they don't have to understand what God says, they must just obey because He said so. I have said on various occasions that I am very uncomfortable with some things being said from the pulpit, and keep trying bit by bit to encourage other thoughts about the way we see things. It is hard going when minds are already made up in a legalistic, crime and punishment, sort of way.
I am a missionary doctor who loves people and who loved and served people even before knowing God, because I was altruistic as my parents. Through the communist atheist education, I was a moral athee, who kept 8 of the ten commandments, except 1 and 4. I am a sda member since 27 years ago. Even though I love my sisters and brothers, not only I am not thanked and appreciated for that, but it happens very often to be misunderstood, misinterpreted and isolated by pastors and church committee and members, as they follow their example. The reason: I operate at the 7-th level of understanding God's character and plan of restoration and they, who were educated and grown in the church, still remains at levels 1-4. I am disgusted of their show on Sabbath day, when they glorify one another and follow worldly habits, instead of preaching Jesus, our Righteousness.
By the communist education I was an athee. By my parents' example and influence I was an altruistic and very honest person. When my father died, I loved him so much, that I wanted to know what happens with human beings after their death. I bought a Bible and I started to study it. So, I found Jesus Who is the Way, the Truth and the Life. He conquered my heart and I submitted to Him. I started my relationship with God directly at the 5-th level and then grew in knowing Him and understanding His character. Unfortunately, most of the people educated in the church remains at levels 1-4 even when they get old. But I had no reasons to misunderstood God's Law, Love and character, as I watched in prayer and studied the Bible and the spirit of prophecy. There are enough verses in the Bible which reveal the truth about God, so we don't need to get confused, when we are honest with God, ourselves and others.
I was at level 5 at 3 years old and I grew up Muslim but I grew up in an abusive family so I had to grow up very quickly , this is why I have such a hard time at church ..
5:13 Eric Wright 18:54 LEVEL 7 UNDERSTANDING FRIEND 20:19 with God's heart harmonious, principle based life vs. level 4 lists 20:58 WHY SO MANY LAWS 24:39 IMPOSED vs. DESIGN LAW 26:49 GOD WANTS US TO GROW UP - grow righteous trough faith 27:57 WHY SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE LEAVE THE CHURCH 29:40 SO WHAT PREVENTS MATURING? 30:13 INFANT FORMULA 31:26 the law - conversion - initial joy 31:47 cycle of peace & joy - guilt & shame 32:26 HEALTHY REPENTANCE 32:58 WHAT PREVENTS GROWING UP 33:11 example: getting rid of rules: not brushing teeth - spirit of lawlessness
You could have included the next phrase in 2Tim 3:5 which says "from such turn away". You are still in level 3 or 4 by not understanding Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles and to pull church doctrine from Romans thru Philemon.
Since when can we as Christians judge what "level" we (or worse, others) are at, spiritually, in the eyes of God? Seems very human of us. I don't think God wants us to have the burden of judgement of ourselves or others, with our faulty vision.
@@v-campsportsleague6263 Well you tell me, many people have gotten divorced because one has been caught looking at porn so ... you tell me, do you think that's right or not.
Ryo I like what Jesus said, “except for fornication”. I heard that the word “fornication” means “Pornea” which means to penetrate. So lusting in the heart doesn’t cut it!🤷🏾♂️
This is among the best Christian teaching I have ever heard, and this message has changed my life.
A friend of mine told me about Dr. Jennings today. I have not spoken to him for a long time I. am now watching this sermon. Thank you Donovan. Thank you Lord. 😊
If only the church leaders would watch this.
What an amazing teaching for our time!
Thank U brother Timothy for this excellent explanation. Very needed in our church.
A friend of mine told me about Dr. Jennings today. I am now watching his sermon. Coincidence? I don't think so...
Life changing perspective for anyone and everyone. God bless Dr. Jennings!
So good! Thank you for sharing!
Indeed! 🙏❤️
Update: I continued to prayerfully question my assumptions. Found Jay Dyer's work (and many others). Converted to Eastern Orthodox. Praise God!
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I have discovered that one needs to tread very carefully when trying to introduce this kind of thinking to fellow church members. There are sermons delivered regularly at level 4. Two weeks ago we were told to teach our youngsters that they don't have to understand what God says, they must just obey because He said so. I have said on various occasions that I am very uncomfortable with some things being said from the pulpit, and keep trying bit by bit to encourage other thoughts about the way we see things. It is hard going when minds are already made up in a legalistic, crime and punishment, sort of way.
When we live at level four and below there needs to be a law for nearly every circumstance. Wow
I am a missionary doctor who loves people and who loved and served people even before knowing God, because I was altruistic as my parents. Through the communist atheist education, I was a moral athee, who kept 8 of the ten commandments, except 1 and 4. I am a sda member since 27 years ago. Even though I love my sisters and brothers, not only I am not thanked and appreciated for that, but it happens very often to be misunderstood, misinterpreted and isolated by pastors and church committee and members, as they follow their example. The reason: I operate at the 7-th level of understanding God's character and plan of restoration and they, who were educated and grown in the church, still remains at levels 1-4. I am disgusted of their show on Sabbath day, when they glorify one another and follow worldly habits, instead of preaching Jesus, our Righteousness.
This is life changing info! Thank you & God bless you for sharing🙏🏽😇🙌🏽
By the communist education I was an athee. By my parents' example and influence I was an altruistic and very honest person.
When my father died, I loved him so much, that I wanted to know what happens with human beings after their death. I bought a Bible and I started to study it. So, I found Jesus Who is the Way, the Truth and the Life. He conquered my heart and I submitted to Him. I started my relationship with God directly at the 5-th level and then grew in knowing Him and understanding His character. Unfortunately, most of the people educated in the church remains at levels 1-4 even when they get old.
But I had no reasons to misunderstood God's Law, Love and character, as I watched in prayer and studied the Bible and the spirit of prophecy. There are enough verses in the Bible which reveal the truth about God, so we don't need to get confused, when we are honest with God, ourselves and others.
I was at level 5 at 3 years old and I grew up Muslim but I grew up in an abusive family so I had to grow up very quickly , this is why I have such a hard time at church ..
5:13 Eric Wright
18:54 LEVEL 7 UNDERSTANDING FRIEND
20:19 with God's heart harmonious, principle based life vs. level 4 lists
20:58 WHY SO MANY LAWS
24:39 IMPOSED vs. DESIGN LAW
26:49 GOD WANTS US TO GROW UP - grow righteous trough faith
27:57 WHY SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE LEAVE THE CHURCH
29:40 SO WHAT PREVENTS MATURING?
30:13 INFANT FORMULA
31:26 the law - conversion - initial joy
31:47 cycle of peace & joy - guilt & shame
32:26 HEALTHY REPENTANCE
32:58 WHAT PREVENTS GROWING UP
33:11 example: getting rid of rules: not brushing teeth - spirit of lawlessness
Hola!! Es posible que puedan subir estos videos del doctor Tim en español, por favor!!!!
Why aren't all the churches teaching this life-changing truth it would be a better world if they did
You could have included the next phrase in 2Tim 3:5 which says "from such turn away". You are still in level 3 or 4 by not understanding Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles and to pull church doctrine from Romans thru Philemon.
Jacob made a deal with God on his way to his uncle's home, what level was he operating at?
Lecia Bennett level 2
@@scripturesinyoureface You think? Cain also spoke with and so did Balaam, not particularly high moral guys!
Since when can we as Christians judge what "level" we (or worse, others) are at, spiritually, in the eyes of God? Seems very human of us. I don't think God wants us to have the burden of judgement of ourselves or others, with our faulty vision.
She did have grounds for divorce as beating your husband or wife is being unfaithful to your spouse.
Yes. Read Malachi 2:14-16
AND willfully destroying the temple of the Holy Spirit which is your wife, husband, children, parents or any other human being.
So you can divorce if your spouse simply lust after another in the heart??? That’s also being unfaithful 🤔
@@v-campsportsleague6263 Well you tell me, many people have gotten divorced because one has been caught looking at porn so ... you tell me, do you think that's right or not.
Ryo I like what Jesus said, “except for fornication”. I heard that the word “fornication” means “Pornea” which means to penetrate. So lusting in the heart doesn’t cut it!🤷🏾♂️
out of context!
which context are YOU referring to?