Little Buddy heater is half the price and about the same BTUs as this, and it uses Propane. Butane gas won't work at temperatures below 29F degrees, whereas a 1lb Propane tank will still vaporize enough to run a heater down to around 0 or lower. Plus, the Little Buddie has a C02 shut off that works, which could save your life.
I own the large Mr. Buddy and the Cupid heater. While you are right on your other points, even the little Buddy puts more heat that the Cupid does. While that Buddy heater is most comparable to the Cupid in term of heat output, I feel it is not safe to use in a tent or most confined spaces as it stands vertically atop a standard propane cylinder and is easily toppled compared to the Cupid heater imho. What is not mentioned in the review is the moisture created by burning either propane or butane in either a Mr. Buddy of the Cupid. I camp in a 6x8 square-drop trailer and on cold days the moisture really adds up. For that reason, I bought a Camco Olympian Wave 3 Catalytic Safety Heater for my square-drop. While expensive, the Wave 3 it is the "Cadillac" of smaller propane heaters. Low emissions, low moisture creation, and it literally sips propane. However, it is not a "portable" heater as it cannt run off small 1lbs propane cylinders like the Mr. Buddy heaters or the small butane cans like the Cupid. It requires at least an external 5lbs propane tank and hose.
I use this heater for the exact reason you mention, My Buddy heater put out too much heat and I was continually turning it on and off. I am satisfied with it. It was easy to find a plastic container to replace the case and also had room for the CO detector, canister of butane, and small fan. If you use a small fan behind it will be more efficient, the heat otherwise goes straight up.
Hi there. I’m from Sweden and have this Kovea heater about 2 years now. I use if I’m note”Hot tenting” and it’s excellent. Worked without issues way below freezing point. Can just agree and recommend this heater 😊
The guy who started the company Kovea liked Svea (Sweden compnay) stove so much he decided to make one good as one made by Svea. Hence he named the company as Kovea (Korean-Svea). It's fun to find out how Kovea made to Sweden where it all started.
@@MarkLee-qe7fmDidn’t know that. Still have an old Svea stove that I’ve had for more than 40 years. Still running. I will remember this background of Kovea😀
This is the perfect solution for what I’ve been looking for for years. Even the small little buddy gets way too hot in my tent, and I have to play the on again off again thing all night long. Plus, I’m older and have arthritis in my thumbs, and turning on and off, the little buddy was very difficult almost impossible for me. I’m hoping this one will be much easier to fire up as it looks like it will be. Thank you for this review, I had no idea about this brand of heater.
Hey, just saw your reviews for this.For those considering one they are great.The vapor and fireballs described in a prior vid from this channel can* happen,but is unlikely.From my understanding once in a great while you can get a defective butane canister.Typically in this instance the defect will be at the nozzle connective portion of the canister and it will get stuck open or closed. In this instance stuck open thereby flooding the kovea with butane.If it does have no fear.Just detach that canister and safely burn off the excess fuel trapped in there and attach another.This has* also happend to me once in my 6 yrs of using one of these.However I've prob put several hundred of these canisters thru this little stove and no probs otherwise.I use mine with my laavu tent alot.Anyway these are great. You might get a bad butane canister every now and than.Don't let it ruin the heater for you.
I was subbed to you long ago but got out of the camping habit so most lost me as a subscriber. I am back into the habit and once again a subscriber. I have camping stoves that use that type of butane can and always thought about a heater that could use it also. Will invest in the Kovea Cupid. Now with that said…if you can find an Asian market near you the butane comes in a 4 pack for around $5. So you can get 12 cans for half of what you pay, $15. Great review and very much appreciated.
I just got my cupid out of the case- i’ve been afraid to try to start it having to do it in the house near an open window. But thanks to your video I was able to ignite it for the first time. I was worried about using it in a small teardrop trailer but with the window partly open, and a safe place to sit it, I think it’ll be just fine. It seems to be the perfect size. I also discovered that is interchangeable with gas one canisters or Coleman. I have two small Electric heaters that heat the space nicely but they use so much power from my Jackery. So this little butane heater is the perfect solution!
Buddy Heater works great for small spaces when you leave the flame on -pilot-. Not only does it work well, pilot uses a lot less fuel than the other settings. Plus, I like all those safety features you mentioned.
The little buddy heater is twice as big, runs on propane tanks that can be refilled dirt cheap from a twenty pound cylinder ( currently costs about $17 dollars per refill a 20 lb cylinder) has a run time of 5-6 hours per 1 lb tank. It’s the most economical way to heat by far.
Bought one right after seeing your review on an older video. I love this product. It really helped me and a friend stay warm overnight at his small cottage when there was no electricity for heat.
I just returned from a trip to eastern Nevada. The little Cupid kept the cold at bay in my truck camper (cloth walls) in 30 degree weather. I didn't get hot, but it kept me from feeling cold. A butane cannister seemed to last about 4 hours, but didn't really test it. It started every time and ran perfectly. I should add that I also had a CO detector in my setup.
Amazon says unavailable already. eBay has them for $75. Just ordered one. Fuel consumption/price of butane vs propane are great selling points. Thanks, Luke!
Been thinking about getting a diesel heater for my wall tent that I’m living in. You can get super efficient and quiet ones for around $300. Saw a review of one that got 50 hours on low out of one tank of fuel. I think it has a 2 gallon tank, maybe 2.5. At under $5 a gallon that’s fairly cheap. They produce a dry heat which is preferable to the propane heaters. Kerosene is more expensive and less efficient than diesel and also produces moisture.
Try the Naturehike Lightweight Cassette Camping Stove bag Luke mentioned a few videos back. It holds my Kovea heater, two cans of fuel and my carbon monoxide sensor perfectly.
I use a small stove top can style heater on top of a pocket stove in my two person tent. I find that the key to tent heating is a fan. Hot air rises. If you run a small usb fan to circulate the hot air it is much more affective.
I drove a truck over the road for 20 yrs, and I still have my one burner stove in a cheap case like that, it uses the same cans of fuel, I use to wait and go thru Quartsite, AZ. And at the flea market I could buy that fuel, for $1.00 a can, and I would buy a case of 12, and buy 2 cases at a time, I would get about 5 days of making morning coffee and cooking a meal at night on it, I loved that stove, I had that trouble a few times, I found that it was the metal tube, had a bend-/-like a dent and it wouldn’t seat right in the valve, and the compressed gas would seep out, it can be a Very Dangerous thing in a confined space, I never really worried about it. More than a few times, I had it on a ps of plywood strapped down in the passenger seat and with a marshmallow fork, I would roast hotdogs while setting in traffic- haha- windows down, and someone would come on the CB, I swear I smell Hotdogs, I would pick up the Mic and say You do, lol those were some good times, anyway, I Love that little Heater. That’s Cool. $90.00 sounds alittle steep. But in today’s time, it sounds about right. Take Care, I enjoy your content- wished my wife was still here- because we would be out camping- with the dogs. lol Take Care, God Bless. 🤠♥️✝️🇺🇸🙏🏻🕯️🌲🐾🐿️
I purchased this same stove last winter to go into my enclosed trailer for camping purposes. It worked okay. It took the chill out of the air. The temperature was 4 degrees F outside.
Some of the additional information. The heater’s official spec states it consumes 71g/h gas (standard butane canister have 220g). It has auto shut off when the regulator senses increase of pressure from the canister (and you need to press reset button at the regulator head when it set off. No gas sensor, no tipping sensor etc.). It has built in heat conductive bracket to keep the butane canister operable below freezing point (Korea’s winter can go down 5f easily), thus it still works well in freaking cold condition, prob. down to freezing point. This is designed as an auxiliary device and never intended to use as main heating source (e.g foot heater along with main heating element)
Thanks for this review. I have been looking for a car camping heater. Also, I bought the little fan you recommended earlier this year. My granddaughter (6 yo) loves using it in my 20 year old van that only blows air from the front console 🥵. It does happen to have a rear plug-in. I keep a charging port in it and she runs the fan off of it. This one upgrade has ACTUALLY been life-saving. 🙏🙏🙏 Keep up the great work.
I've heard about that vapor cloud on other channels. The only thing that kept me from getting one. I suppose it doesnt happen often. Plan on purchasing one for my van. Thanks❤
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What Chinese has to do with Korean product with Korean comments? I see there are many Chinese knock off in AliExpress including Helinox chair.... I see this stove in AliExpress for around $40. Not sure if I trust with my safety, though. Chinese claim everything came from them to Korea, including all Korean traditions and culture... 99% of Korean will be offended (except for some liberals) if you call them Chinese.
I have this heater and it works as stated and I'm very pleased with its performance. Plan on using it in the deer blind and keep it in my vehicle for emergency reasons. I highly recommend this heater, as for the fuel my local Walmart had a clearance of the canisters $2/ea I bought every one they had, about 50 cans, score.😊
I’ve used mine a ton. My favorite is to take it bikepacking. There are several ways to keep your butane warm enough to get it going when it’s cold. I also take a portable CO2 detector just to be safe. Ventilation and common sense as well.
You talked me into getting one... A buddy heater with a propane canister is 9lbs... The Cupid heater with a butane canister is 4lbs and half the size of a Buddy heater... There are times when I'm out in the backcountry winter fishing, climbing, or whatever and I become desperate to get my hands warmed again (I'm real tall and when the hands/feet get cold they stay cold for awhile)... And while the buddy heater is well suited for a Gorilla Cart trip or Sled haul in trip, it takes up way too much room in a backpack to haul in... The beauty of this little heater is when I set up for winter fishing, I wear a Boreal Mountain Wool Anorak with a Boreal Mountain Anorak Titan Poncho. If I put this little heater under my fishing chair, I can capture a majority of the heat with my poncho... Without the risk of catching my Poncho on fire and burning me alive... Based on what you had to say about the Cupid heaters plastic case, I will be sure to reinforce it with some Gorilla Tape from the get go, to try and extend its inevitably rough life to come... Anyhow great review...
Kovea also makes another butane model: KGH-2010. It's slightly larger and you can use it like a stove as well due to the design of the KGH-2010. Best price is on ebay for about $85.00 USD including shipping from Korea.
They run fine on the tri gas cartridges (propane-butane-isobutane) such as the Campingaz CP250 forget butane in temp below 5c/40F but the CP250 runs at lower temps. UK CP250 price per pack of 12 is £17 - $US22; butane only are a lot cheaper but useless for winter use. Only use with an active CO2 monitor (I've got my stove collector head on ;) )
I used the Kovea Cupid for the first time this weekend. In my small tent, a OneTigris Stella, even on the lowest setting, I turned the heater off after two or three minutes because the tent was becoming too warm. The temperature was in the forties, dropping into the thirties overnight but never below freezing, but lows in the thirties are very cold for me. I have little experience with winter camping, but I will brave the cold this winter to gain some experience. I have this channel to thank for all of my winter gear except my sleeping bag. I learned this weekend that I also need a warmer sleeping pad, so I ordered the military Thermarest that you reviewed. I have a very good, down sleeping bag and a pad (Gear Doctors Apollo Air) that claims an R value of 5, but some TH-camrs say that the R value of the pad is not accurate, and my back felt cool during the night. It wasn't uncomfortably cold, but my back wasn't warm, and I might have been cold if the temperature had been lower. Turning on the Kovea Cupid warmed up the tent quickly, but I couldn't leave it on both because the tent became too warm and because I left my CO monitor at home.
I've been using the Cupid for a number of years in both my truck camper and teardrop camper and it's perfect. My only complaint is that I wish they had a multifuel version the same size that would allow the use of a larger propane bottle and hose, like you can with camp stoves. Other than that, and used with caution, it's perfect for small spaces
Butane will work fine in temps below freezing. Just harder to light cold. Extremely easy to warm up a can of Butane with your body heat before screwing it into the appliance anyway. 🤘
I bought one based on the first review. When I go camping now, this one goes with me and my little buddy and my Coleman catalytic stay home. Nuff said. 😊
Kovea makes a fuel canister that is a butane/propane blend. This is a little hard to find but I love it and it is no more expensive than regular butane. My Cupid is an integral part of my winter vehicle equipment.
Up in the mountains, above 7,000 feet, all of these heaters have a tendency to shut themselves off because the O2 sensor confuses thin air with actual fumes. The problem with butane is it might not work when you need it the most, at 30 or 40 below. My emergency heater when I lived in Colorado, was a couple of 1-pound coffee cans with a roll of toilet paper stuffed in them and then all or most of a bottle of isopropyl alcohol. Drop a match in that, and it'll burn about 8 hours. I got it in case I got stuck in my truck in winter. But if I were tent camping out of my truck in the spring or fall, it seems about the perfect size for warming up a vestibule on a tent. Pretty small little package for two or three nights' worth of comfort when the frost is on its way or slow in departing.
I've found it very interesting how these butane stoves and heaters found their way to the U.S. over the last decade or so. I was stationed in Korea with the Army in 1989 this is when I first saw these stoves and heaters simple reliable they were dirt cheap you could buy those for a few dollars we used them all the time out in the field.
Saw a guy use a screen that painters use inside a bucket to roll off excess paint. He hooks it on top of heater like a rack to warm food or keep coffee warm.
Can’t tell how much I appreciate your reviews especially recommendation for people with disabilities. I have two herniated and ruptured disc in my back I motocamp and truckcamp and your videos help a lot when I’m looking for camping equipment I bought Coleman Institute and Naturehike Mongar 2 Person and Naturehike Massif and Naturehike dune I know i I went a little crazy but was trying to find one a little easier on me to set up with the back problems but bottom line is for anyone of your viewers in the same place as I am the most comfortable and what I think is the best choice for car or truck camping and ease of use is the dune and for the motorcycle would be the Naturehike Mongar 2 Person and I have tried a few for motorcycle and for shore I would stay away from hike and bike Zion there fite and finish not good and there costomer servicesis horrible they don’t stand behind there products
Bought one of those for its size. The output is perfect for a tent or small camper. The butane can be an issue when it gets too cold, but I have this as well as a duel fuel (butane/propane) Gas 1 stove. If you’re camping or hunting in cold weather, below freezing, I just stick a can of fuel in the sleeping bag or in my jacket overnight so I have a somewhat warm can of fuel to swap out. And as far as fuel efficiency, it’s a smaller can of fuel, it’s less expensive than propane, and it lasts the same length of time my 1 lb Buddy Heater.
you can buy a 4 pack of green propane bottles for under $20. also I have the hose that can hookup the bbq size propane bottle, to my little buddy. My little buddy costs 90 bucks 10 years ago. Still works great. But I do like this guy testing all the stuff for us. And I don't know why it would be any different in btu's since the brick heating core is that same size on both heaters, right or no?
@ I have both. My Buddy heater will go 3-4 1/2 hrs on a 1lb propane can. Yes you can get those in 2 and 4 packs. I think Walmart had 4 packs for between $20-25. And I refill my 1 pounders too. At that cost it’ll run me between $25-30 for a 5 gal tank and that’ll do about 15-18 1 lb cans. A Cupid will run the same length of time with a standard butane bottle. I can get those in a 6 pack at RN Market for under $10 (I think I paid $7 last time in). Every time I go for in for a few tri tips I pick up a pack or two. So for their size and output it works out cheaper and more convenient to use when I camp in a tent or camper. And considering the size of each, and the output I need to stay warm in a tent or camper, I can store more of the butane canisters than the propane. Im no treehugger but I hate the waste though. I can’t refill the butane so you’re throwing a lot of one use cans away.
On watching this video if the locks on the carry case keep coming open when in the closed position use a small drill bit about 1.5 mm drill through the lock and case so you can put a clip a piece of wire that should solve the problem you might have hope this helps you
I think the "auto-shutoff" feature is activated when the fuel pressure is too high. Its common here in Korea, since we had some incidents with people using oversized grill plates that heated up the fuel canister and caused explosion.
Look for the Coleman Sportcat, they have different models and they put out about 1100 to 1500 BTUs. Awesome for small spaces. They are catalytic heaters, so you don't have open flames.
A small dedicated backpack style bag to store the case in would be ideal. And likely have storage for xtra fuel bottles too. One can never have enough gear storage.
So I purchases one from amazon and the fuel. The canister will not lock in place like how your video shows, I sent it back and got a replacemenf and ifs tge same issue. Any help you can give?
I recently bought this heater, and I can see it on the video that the top handle stay in open position, mine has not resistance and goes down by itself, I tried to tight the screws but they were very tight already.
Pps or you could use a large safty pin bend the back of it so that you can use the pin accordingly you might think of getting a nappie pin with saft lock
I just picked up this heater from Amazon and the gas can doesn't twist lock. It now has a magnet to hold in the bottle. My first one the magent was no longer in the correct position and I couldn't get it back in place. I returned and am waiting for a second unit.
I like everything about this but when I heard that even on low you have to get up in the middle of the night to change out fuel canisters, it was a no-go for me.
I don't think it was mentioned in the review, but my understanding about butane is that it burns cleaner than propane, resulting in less CO2 emissions?
With winter approaching, I have been on the hunt for different heaters for my adventure truck with ARE aluminum Shell. Buddy heater too much. I'm using Flame King refillable propane cylinders. Because I have limited space in my truck setup I've tried to stick to that as a primary fuel source. Iv'e used Coleman Blackcat 3000 BTU non adjustable (too much) coleman survivalcat 800BTU (not enough) and the Coleman Sportscat 1500BTU (barly enough to raise temp 1 degree every few minutes. The compact Sportscat catalytic heater paired with a half pound refillable propane cylinder equals about 6-7 hours of burn time, and with the smaller cylinder it is short enough to sit on my bed. The Aluminum shell can sure suck the heat out. I may give the cupid heater a try because it is adjustable with a low profile, and maybe use it in combination with the Sportscat Thank you, Roger
Would you consider packing this when backpacking? Seems a bit heavy compared to the fire maple sun flower. Does the company say its safe inside a tent? Looks identical ceramic heater as the sun flower. Someone needs to make a tent safe backpacking heater!
This might work as an emergency backup for my pumphouse to keep things from freezing up when the power goes off. Most are way too large for that small of a building.
I have a problems with it over a buddy heater first is having to carry a different type of fuel then most people will usually carry and not being able to have a large tank hook up . 2nd it don’t seam as safe. I think it would be great for maybe if you were bag packing an overnight trip and may need heat.
Nice option, but I will stick with my Diesel ⛽️ Heater (the one that comes in a toolbox) I tent camp in the Orygun Coast Mountain Range ⛰️ for weeks at a time... thanks for the review. But I couldn't afford the cans of butane, and short runtime. Could you test the Heat Hog LP heater ?
Thank you! This sounds like a good choice for a canister powered heater. The major problem with this sort of heater is the recycling and weight issue. If we rely on either a butane or propane heater for extended winter camping, we first have to store and carry all those cylinders, then find a way to properly recycle the empties, not a particularly environmentally friendly solution to staying warm at base camp. (Plus I hate stumbling across empty cylinders thoughtlessly left behind by inconsiderate "campers" - along with the crumpled beer cans...). I still miss my Coleman catalytic heater that ran on liquid Coleman fuel or white gas - cheap, reliable, efficient heat for winter base camps when dry wood was not available.
Little Buddy heater is half the price and about the same BTUs as this, and it uses Propane. Butane gas won't work at temperatures below 29F degrees, whereas a 1lb Propane tank will still vaporize enough to run a heater down to around 0 or lower. Plus, the Little Buddie has a C02 shut off that works, which could save your life.
agreed
I own the large Mr. Buddy and the Cupid heater. While you are right on your other points, even the little Buddy puts more heat that the Cupid does. While that Buddy heater is most comparable to the Cupid in term of heat output, I feel it is not safe to use in a tent or most confined spaces as it stands vertically atop a standard propane cylinder and is easily toppled compared to the Cupid heater imho.
What is not mentioned in the review is the moisture created by burning either propane or butane in either a Mr. Buddy of the Cupid. I camp in a 6x8 square-drop trailer and on cold days the moisture really adds up.
For that reason, I bought a Camco Olympian Wave 3 Catalytic Safety Heater for my square-drop. While expensive, the Wave 3 it is the "Cadillac" of smaller propane heaters. Low emissions, low moisture creation, and it literally sips propane. However, it is not a "portable" heater as it cannt run off small 1lbs propane cylinders like the Mr. Buddy heaters or the small butane cans like the Cupid. It requires at least an external 5lbs propane tank and hose.
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I’ve been in under 20° at 10.5k elevation with the adapter to hook the heater buddy to my 11lb tank. Works great. That butane can’t do that!
@@PafMedic Thank you for pointing that out, I think it was due to the auto-correct. I made the two edits. Merry Christmas!
I use this heater for the exact reason you mention, My Buddy heater put out too much heat and I was continually turning it on and off. I am satisfied with it. It was easy to find a plastic container to replace the case and also had room for the CO detector, canister of butane, and small fan. If you use a small fan behind it will be more efficient, the heat otherwise goes straight up.
Hi there. I’m from Sweden and have this Kovea heater about 2 years now. I use if I’m note”Hot tenting” and it’s excellent. Worked without issues way below freezing point. Can just agree and recommend this heater 😊
Hello as a swede too i wonder where you buy the butan in sweden? Maybe i dont look for them as much or are butan canister hard to find?
The guy who started the company Kovea liked Svea (Sweden compnay) stove so much he decided to make one good as one made by Svea. Hence he named the company as Kovea (Korean-Svea). It's fun to find out how Kovea made to Sweden where it all started.
@@hakankillberg6043 you can find them at in a lot of places. Biltema, Clas Ohlson, amazon, röda stjärnan, general prepper , byggvaruhus.
@@MarkLee-qe7fmDidn’t know that. Still have an old Svea stove that I’ve had for more than 40 years. Still running. I will remember this background of Kovea😀
@@hakankillberg6043 lite överallt. Clas Ohlsson, Biltema, Amazon, Röda Stjärnan, General Prepper tex.
This is the perfect solution for what I’ve been looking for for years. Even the small little buddy gets way too hot in my tent, and I have to play the on again off again thing all night long. Plus, I’m older and have arthritis in my thumbs, and turning on and off, the little buddy was very difficult almost impossible for me. I’m hoping this one will be much easier to fire up as it looks like it will be. Thank you for this review, I had no idea about this brand of heater.
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Glad you and yours are safe in NC after the storms!
Thank you Luke for the short and realistic review of this little heater.
Also, I added a small fire blanket in my heater box so I always have a fire safety device with me.
buy your butane at your local Asian grocery. a four pack is ~$7 in my area.
We don't have a local Asian grocery within 60 miles of us
Ya better up and move house.. pronto.
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@@timothypeterson1903If you can,save a few bucks for gas and about 7 boxes of those.
@@timothypeterson1903 then stop there and stock up when you happen to be there, or just use a propane heater.
Hey, just saw your reviews for this.For those considering one they are great.The vapor and fireballs described in a prior vid from this channel can* happen,but is unlikely.From my understanding once in a great while you can get a defective butane canister.Typically in this instance the defect will be at the nozzle connective portion of the canister and it will get stuck open or closed. In this instance stuck open thereby flooding the kovea with butane.If it does have no fear.Just detach that canister and safely burn off the excess fuel trapped in there and attach another.This has* also happend to me once in my 6 yrs of using one of these.However I've prob put several hundred of these canisters thru this little stove and no probs otherwise.I use mine with my laavu tent alot.Anyway these are great. You might get a bad butane canister every now and than.Don't let it ruin the heater for you.
I was subbed to you long ago but got out of the camping habit so most lost me as a subscriber. I am back into the habit and once again a subscriber. I have camping stoves that use that type of butane can and always thought about a heater that could use it also. Will invest in the Kovea Cupid. Now with that said…if you can find an Asian market near you the butane comes in a 4 pack for around $5. So you can get 12 cans for half of what you pay, $15. Great review and very much appreciated.
I just got my cupid out of the case- i’ve been afraid to try to start it having to do it in the house near an open window. But thanks to your video I was able to ignite it for the first time. I was worried about using it in a small teardrop trailer but with the window partly open, and a safe place to sit it, I think it’ll be just fine. It seems to be the perfect size. I also discovered that is interchangeable with gas one canisters or Coleman. I have two small Electric heaters that heat the space nicely but they use so much power from my Jackery. So this little butane heater is the perfect solution!
Buddy Heater works great for small spaces when you leave the flame on -pilot-. Not only does it work well, pilot uses a lot less fuel than the other settings. Plus, I like all those safety features you mentioned.
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Great suggestion with the pilot light.
I didn’t know it was safe to leave it on pilot. Thanks
I've been using the Kovea Cupid for a couple years now and love it! Heats up our tents fast and is pretty efficient.
The little buddy heater is twice as big, runs on propane tanks that can be refilled dirt cheap from a twenty pound cylinder ( currently costs about $17 dollars per refill a 20 lb cylinder) has a run time of 5-6 hours per 1 lb tank. It’s the most economical way to heat by far.
I do not use butane at all.
But thanks for the review.
Sticking with my Little Buddy and Mr 20lb+/- propane.
Bought one right after seeing your review on an older video. I love this product. It really helped me and a friend stay warm overnight at his small cottage when there was no electricity for heat.
This fits perfectly in the Apache 2800 case from HF. If you take the padding out, you can fit 4 cans of fuel.
Glad I got the Kovea Cubic instead. Excellent build quality, stable and you can even cook on top.
I got the cubic model too recently. Love the chrome retro look. I believe it's the newest of the small butane heater model range for Kovea.
Thanks Luke I think this is the final piece of gear I have been looking for.
I just returned from a trip to eastern Nevada. The little Cupid kept the cold at bay in my truck camper (cloth walls) in 30 degree weather. I didn't get hot, but it kept me from feeling cold. A butane cannister seemed to last about 4 hours, but didn't really test it. It started every time and ran perfectly. I should add that I also had a CO detector in my setup.
Amazon says unavailable already. eBay has them for $75. Just ordered one. Fuel consumption/price of butane vs propane are great selling points. Thanks, Luke!
Thanks for the review. I've been looking at this stove as a backup to a backup.
Thanks 🙏 for the update on the kovia cupid heater Luke I got mine ordered for our camping 🏕️ trip. Stay safe n blessed 🙏 from Georgia.
Been thinking about getting a diesel heater for my wall tent that I’m living in. You can get super efficient and quiet ones for around $300. Saw a review of one that got 50 hours on low out of one tank of fuel. I think it has a 2 gallon tank, maybe 2.5. At under $5 a gallon that’s fairly cheap. They produce a dry heat which is preferable to the propane heaters. Kerosene is more expensive and less efficient than diesel and also produces moisture.
Optional shelf attaches to direct heat forward and keep your mug of coffee warm 😊
I'm glad you mentioned the case. It's awful. I love my heater, but I'm constantly on the lookout for a replacement case.
Try the Naturehike Lightweight Cassette Camping Stove bag Luke mentioned a few videos back. It holds my Kovea heater, two cans of fuel and my carbon monoxide sensor perfectly.
I just use a little Velcro strap around the handle. What problem?
I was looking for something like this for my mom. She gets cold easy and I already have a butane camp stove. Thanks Luke!
I use a small stove top can style heater on top of a pocket stove in my two person tent. I find that the key to tent heating is a fan. Hot air rises. If you run a small usb fan to circulate the hot air it is much more affective.
I drove a truck over the road for 20 yrs, and I still have my one burner stove in a cheap case like that, it uses the same cans of fuel, I use to wait and go thru Quartsite, AZ. And at the flea market I could buy that fuel, for $1.00 a can, and I would buy a case of 12, and buy 2 cases at a time, I would get about 5 days of making morning coffee and cooking a meal at night on it, I loved that stove, I had that trouble a few times, I found that it was the metal tube, had a bend-/-like a dent and it wouldn’t seat right in the valve, and the compressed gas would seep out, it can be a Very Dangerous thing in a confined space, I never really worried about it. More than a few times, I had it on a ps of plywood strapped down in the passenger seat and with a marshmallow fork, I would roast hotdogs while setting in traffic- haha- windows down, and someone would come on the CB, I swear I smell Hotdogs, I would pick up the Mic and say You do, lol those were some good times, anyway, I Love that little Heater. That’s Cool. $90.00 sounds alittle steep. But in today’s time, it sounds about right. Take Care, I enjoy your content- wished my wife was still here- because we would be out camping- with the dogs. lol Take Care, God Bless. 🤠♥️✝️🇺🇸🙏🏻🕯️🌲🐾🐿️
I purchased this same stove last winter to go into my enclosed trailer for camping purposes. It worked okay. It took the chill out of the air. The temperature was 4 degrees F outside.
Some of the additional information. The heater’s official spec states it consumes 71g/h gas (standard butane canister have 220g). It has auto shut off when the regulator senses increase of pressure from the canister (and you need to press reset button at the regulator head when it set off. No gas sensor, no tipping sensor etc.). It has built in heat conductive bracket to keep the butane canister operable below freezing point (Korea’s winter can go down 5f easily), thus it still works well in freaking cold condition, prob. down to freezing point. This is designed as an auxiliary device and never intended to use as main heating source (e.g foot heater along with main heating element)
what would we do without this guy
It wasn’t a compliment
This is something I need for a spring house
Thanks for this review. I have been looking for a car camping heater.
Also, I bought the little fan you recommended earlier this year. My granddaughter (6 yo) loves using it in my 20 year old van that only blows air from the front console 🥵. It does happen to have a rear plug-in. I keep a charging port in it and she runs the fan off of it. This one upgrade has ACTUALLY been life-saving. 🙏🙏🙏
Keep up the great work.
This might be a good option for a heater inside the cab on my garden tractor in the winter!
I've heard about that vapor cloud on other channels. The only thing that kept me from getting one. I suppose it doesnt happen often. Plan on purchasing one for my van. Thanks❤
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What Chinese has to do with Korean product with Korean comments? I see there are many Chinese knock off in AliExpress including Helinox chair.... I see this stove in AliExpress for around $40. Not sure if I trust with my safety, though. Chinese claim everything came from them to Korea, including all Korean traditions and culture... 99% of Korean will be offended (except for some liberals) if you call them Chinese.
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I have this heater and it works as stated and I'm very pleased with its performance. Plan on using it in the deer blind and keep it in my vehicle for emergency reasons. I highly recommend this heater, as for the fuel my local Walmart had a clearance of the canisters $2/ea I bought every one they had, about 50 cans, score.😊
I’ve used mine a ton. My favorite is to take it bikepacking. There are several ways to keep your butane warm enough to get it going when it’s cold. I also take a portable CO2 detector just to be safe. Ventilation and common sense as well.
28 cans of butane for 32 € here in Germany - VAT and shipping included.
You talked me into getting one... A buddy heater with a propane canister is 9lbs... The Cupid heater with a butane canister is 4lbs and half the size of a Buddy heater... There are times when I'm out in the backcountry winter fishing, climbing, or whatever and I become desperate to get my hands warmed again (I'm real tall and when the hands/feet get cold they stay cold for awhile)... And while the buddy heater is well suited for a Gorilla Cart trip or Sled haul in trip, it takes up way too much room in a backpack to haul in... The beauty of this little heater is when I set up for winter fishing, I wear a Boreal Mountain Wool Anorak with a Boreal Mountain Anorak Titan Poncho. If I put this little heater under my fishing chair, I can capture a majority of the heat with my poncho... Without the risk of catching my Poncho on fire and burning me alive...
Based on what you had to say about the Cupid heaters plastic case, I will be sure to reinforce it with some Gorilla Tape from the get go, to try and extend its inevitably rough life to come... Anyhow great review...
Kovea also makes another butane model: KGH-2010.
It's slightly larger and you can use it like a stove as well due to the design of the KGH-2010.
Best price is on ebay for about $85.00 USD including shipping from Korea.
Thank you, HAPPY NEW YEAR. I have even roasted hot dogs in front of this heater while there is pouring rain in 50° temps outside.
They run fine on the tri gas cartridges (propane-butane-isobutane) such as the Campingaz CP250 forget butane in temp below 5c/40F but the CP250 runs at lower temps. UK CP250 price per pack of 12 is £17 - $US22; butane only are a lot cheaper but useless for winter use. Only use with an active CO2 monitor (I've got my stove collector head on ;) )
Thanks Luke, as alway, I appreciate your reviews. Stay safe and God bless.
I respect your experience and recommendation. Just ordered!
I used the Kovea Cupid for the first time this weekend. In my small tent, a OneTigris Stella, even on the lowest setting, I turned the heater off after two or three minutes because the tent was becoming too warm. The temperature was in the forties, dropping into the thirties overnight but never below freezing, but lows in the thirties are very cold for me. I have little experience with winter camping, but I will brave the cold this winter to gain some experience. I have this channel to thank for all of my winter gear except my sleeping bag.
I learned this weekend that I also need a warmer sleeping pad, so I ordered the military Thermarest that you reviewed. I have a very good, down sleeping bag and a pad (Gear Doctors Apollo Air) that claims an R value of 5, but some TH-camrs say that the R value of the pad is not accurate, and my back felt cool during the night. It wasn't uncomfortably cold, but my back wasn't warm, and I might have been cold if the temperature had been lower. Turning on the Kovea Cupid warmed up the tent quickly, but I couldn't leave it on both because the tent became too warm and because I left my CO monitor at home.
I've been using the Cupid for a number of years in both my truck camper and teardrop camper and it's perfect. My only complaint is that I wish they had a multifuel version the same size that would allow the use of a larger propane bottle and hose, like you can with camp stoves. Other than that, and used with caution, it's perfect for small spaces
Butane will work fine in temps below freezing. Just harder to light cold. Extremely easy to warm up a can of Butane with your body heat before screwing it into the appliance anyway. 🤘
I bought one based on the first review. When I go camping now, this one goes with me and my little buddy and my Coleman catalytic stay home. Nuff said. 😊
I'm still using my Coleman catalytic heater made in the 1960"s I think! ready for an upgrade!
Nice suggestion, as I just got mine delivered several days ago. It has been a warm few days since then.
Kovea makes a fuel canister that is a butane/propane blend. This is a little hard to find but I love it and it is no more expensive than regular butane. My Cupid is an integral part of my winter vehicle equipment.
Sir, love your videos, keep on rockin'
Great review and very thorough. Thank you for taking the time to post
Redundant heating systems with diversified fuels is a smart way to survive a worst case scenario. It's about having options. Well done.
Up in the mountains, above 7,000 feet, all of these heaters have a tendency to shut themselves off because the O2 sensor confuses thin air with actual fumes.
The problem with butane is it might not work when you need it the most, at 30 or 40 below. My emergency heater when I lived in Colorado, was a couple of 1-pound coffee cans with a roll of toilet paper stuffed in them and then all or most of a bottle of isopropyl alcohol. Drop a match in that, and it'll burn about 8 hours. I got it in case I got stuck in my truck in winter.
But if I were tent camping out of my truck in the spring or fall, it seems about the perfect size for warming up a vestibule on a tent. Pretty small little package for two or three nights' worth of comfort when the frost is on its way or slow in departing.
I've found it very interesting how these butane stoves and heaters found their way to the U.S. over the last decade or so. I was stationed in Korea with the Army in 1989 this is when I first saw these stoves and heaters simple reliable they were dirt cheap you could buy those for a few dollars we used them all the time out in the field.
Saw a guy use a screen that painters use inside a bucket to roll off excess paint. He hooks it on top of heater like a rack to warm food or keep coffee warm.
I really like the jr buddy for a tent or the back of my Yukon but that is nice that it's butane
i have not seen one of your videos in a long time, and i really like this new format :+D
Can’t tell how much I appreciate your reviews especially recommendation for people with disabilities. I have two herniated and ruptured disc in my back I motocamp and truckcamp and your videos help a lot when I’m looking for camping equipment I bought Coleman Institute and Naturehike Mongar 2 Person and Naturehike Massif and
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anyone of your viewers in the same place as I am the most comfortable and what I think is the best choice for car or truck camping and ease of use is the dune and for the motorcycle would be the Naturehike Mongar 2 Person and I have tried a few for motorcycle and for shore I would stay away from hike and bike Zion there fite and finish not good and there costomer servicesis horrible they don’t stand behind there products
Bought one of those for its size. The output is perfect for a tent or small camper. The butane can be an issue when it gets too cold, but I have this as well as a duel fuel (butane/propane) Gas 1 stove. If you’re camping or hunting in cold weather, below freezing, I just stick a can of fuel in the sleeping bag or in my jacket overnight so I have a somewhat warm can of fuel to swap out. And as far as fuel efficiency, it’s a smaller can of fuel, it’s less expensive than propane, and it lasts the same length of time my 1 lb Buddy Heater.
you can buy a 4 pack of green propane bottles for under $20. also I have the hose that can hookup the bbq size propane bottle, to my little buddy. My little buddy costs 90 bucks 10 years ago. Still works great. But I do like this guy testing all the stuff for us. And I don't know why it would be any different in btu's since the brick heating core is that same size on both heaters, right or no?
@ I have both. My Buddy heater will go 3-4 1/2 hrs on a 1lb propane can. Yes you can get those in 2 and 4 packs. I think Walmart had 4 packs for between $20-25. And I refill my 1 pounders too. At that cost it’ll run me between $25-30 for a 5 gal tank and that’ll do about 15-18 1 lb cans. A Cupid will run the same length of time with a standard butane bottle. I can get those in a 6 pack at RN Market for under $10 (I think I paid $7 last time in). Every time I go for in for a few tri tips I pick up a pack or two. So for their size and output it works out cheaper and more convenient to use when I camp in a tent or camper. And considering the size of each, and the output I need to stay warm in a tent or camper, I can store more of the butane canisters than the propane. Im no treehugger but I hate the waste though. I can’t refill the butane so you’re throwing a lot of one use cans away.
I have one aswell. I haven't used it yet but I believe it will be a great item to use.
On watching this video if the locks on the carry case keep coming open when in the closed position use a small drill bit about 1.5 mm drill through the lock and case so you can put a clip a piece of wire that should solve the problem you might have hope this helps you
I bought it, used it one winter. It burns through Butane fast. I switched to Diesel heater.
I love mine for small spaces. I tie the cheesy storage box handles together with para cord.
Might pick one up just to add to the pile but I my go to in my camper is my lil buddy heater
No worry of carbon monoxide inside a small tent with average ventilation?have you done any testing?
I used that heater in Silver Falls State Park and it saved us from being cold. The only negative is the flimsy box but l can live with that.
Nice little unit. What it can't do that a little buddy can do is hook up to a 20lb propane tank for real economical long lasting heat.
Thanks for this gem. Looks like it's about small enough to fit in a mid-size ammo can? Might have to pick one up to try
I think the "auto-shutoff" feature is activated when the fuel pressure is too high. Its common here in Korea, since we had some incidents with people using oversized grill plates that heated up the fuel canister and caused explosion.
Look for the Coleman Sportcat, they have different models and they put out about 1100 to 1500 BTUs. Awesome for small spaces. They are catalytic heaters, so you don't have open flames.
Thank you Luke. Will add one to my list.
Love my Olympian Wave heater, but I'm in a larger van.
Thank you for this video. That stove looks like a good idea.
A small dedicated backpack style bag to store the case in would be ideal. And likely have storage for xtra fuel bottles too. One can never have enough gear storage.
You cant see the flame in the sunlite, find a darker area. Thanx. Btw I can get 12 cans of that butane from Amazon for 21.00, not bad.
So I purchases one from amazon and the fuel. The canister will not lock in place like how your video shows, I sent it back and got a replacemenf and ifs tge same issue. Any help you can give?
I recently bought this heater, and I can see it on the video that the top handle stay in open position, mine has not resistance and goes down by itself, I tried to tight the screws but they were very tight already.
Excellent review! I'm buying it.
Pps or you could use a large safty pin bend the back of it so that you can use the pin accordingly you might think of getting a nappie pin with saft lock
What are the specified venting requirements? What are the specified clearances during use?
I just picked up this heater from Amazon and the gas can doesn't twist lock. It now has a magnet to hold in the bottle. My first one the magent was no longer in the correct position and I couldn't get it back in place. I returned and am waiting for a second unit.
I like everything about this but when I heard that even on low you have to get up in the middle of the night to change out fuel canisters, it was a no-go for me.
I don't think it was mentioned in the review, but my understanding about butane is that it burns cleaner than propane, resulting in less CO2 emissions?
I have the kovea spider and i love iut, not surprised this is also good quality for the money!
With winter approaching, I have been on the hunt for different heaters for my adventure truck with ARE aluminum Shell. Buddy heater too much. I'm using Flame King refillable propane cylinders. Because I have limited space in my truck setup I've tried to stick to that as a primary fuel source. Iv'e used Coleman Blackcat 3000 BTU non adjustable (too much) coleman survivalcat 800BTU (not enough) and the Coleman Sportscat 1500BTU (barly enough to raise temp 1 degree every few minutes. The compact Sportscat catalytic heater paired with a half pound refillable propane cylinder equals about 6-7 hours of burn time, and with the smaller cylinder it is short enough to sit on my bed. The Aluminum shell can sure suck the heat out. I may give the cupid heater a try because it is adjustable with a low profile, and maybe use it in combination with the Sportscat
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Roger
Great video, thanks 👍
Would you consider packing this when backpacking? Seems a bit heavy compared to the fire maple sun flower. Does the company say its safe inside a tent? Looks identical ceramic heater as the sun flower. Someone needs to make a tent safe backpacking heater!
I bought one last year on your recommendation. Love it! Worth every penny. Thanks for sharing 👍
The Cubic, although smaller, looks like it was designed to be displayed in MOMA.
Kovea, not Korea. I bought one based on your recommendation last year. Love it!
Good afternoon from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing
This might work as an emergency backup for my pumphouse to keep things from freezing up when the power goes off. Most are way too large for that small of a building.
Ps put a wave pattern in the clip don't go mad it's to help it stay in place
I have a problems with it over a buddy heater first is having to carry a different type of fuel then most people will usually carry and not being able to have a large tank hook up . 2nd it don’t seam as safe. I think it would be great for maybe if you were bag packing an overnight trip and may need heat.
Nice option, but I will stick with my Diesel ⛽️ Heater (the one that comes in a toolbox) I tent camp in the Orygun Coast Mountain Range ⛰️ for weeks at a time... thanks for the review. But I couldn't afford the cans of butane, and short runtime. Could you test the Heat Hog LP heater ?
Thank you! This sounds like a good choice for a canister powered heater.
The major problem with this sort of heater is the recycling and weight issue. If we rely on either a butane or propane heater for extended winter camping, we first have to store and carry all those cylinders, then find a way to properly recycle the empties, not a particularly environmentally friendly solution to staying warm at base camp.
(Plus I hate stumbling across empty cylinders thoughtlessly left behind by inconsiderate "campers" - along with the crumpled beer cans...).
I still miss my Coleman catalytic heater that ran on liquid Coleman fuel or white gas - cheap, reliable, efficient heat for winter base camps when dry wood was not available.