Guitar Action Is Too High - Shave Saddle Instead Of Adjust Truss Rod

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  • @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr
    @LightsaberGoBrrrrrr ปีที่แล้ว +259

    To all the people saying he should just adjust the truss rod, you can pivot the strings as much as you want off the 2 points but if the points (nut/saddle) are too high to begin with you can old do so much with a truss rod. With electric I shave the nut if it’s too high at the 1st fret. This was actually a great short about acoustics.

    • @Super_Nope_13
      @Super_Nope_13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Truss rods are to set proper relief in the neck, not to adjust action. Setting relief might effect action but is not the reason to adjust truss rod. Order od operations should be...
      Tune to pitch
      Adjust/set relief
      Retune
      Measure action at the 12th
      Adjust action at 12 by sanding saddle/adding shim/making new saddle
      Then measure and adjust string height/action at the nut

    • @Christianflowarts
      @Christianflowarts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a nylon string guitar. There is no truss rod in the neck.

    • @Super_Nope_13
      @Super_Nope_13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Christianflowarts are you trolling right now? Haha

    • @Christianflowarts
      @Christianflowarts 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Super_Nope_13 yeah I must’ve been drunk idk why I commented this on an obviously steel string acoustic 🤣

    • @FlatpickRei
      @FlatpickRei 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      truss rods are to adjust relief, not to adjust the action.

  • @Talon18136
    @Talon18136 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This is what I did the action on my new guitar wasn’t too bad out of the box it was a cheap jasmine I didn’t want to spend too much in case I didn’t stick with learning I did it with two picks put together and dropped at the 12th fret as my measurement. It worked like a charm

    • @mars-jr5uu
      @mars-jr5uu 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Heyoo😊

  • @limon.9575
    @limon.9575 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Thanks for the tip I’ll reward you some nail clippers

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ❤️thank u

    • @edgarochoa5807
      @edgarochoa5807 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      At least they’re clean, I’m sure he uses them to strum. And pick a booger or two. I know I would!

    • @limon.9575
      @limon.9575 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@edgarochoa5807 lmaoooo

    • @Motorcycledailies
      @Motorcycledailies ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the coke nail

    • @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
      @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Nah, I bet he clips his left hand nails regularly. That's how you spot a guitarist, short nails on one hand, long nails on the other! 🙂

  • @Edwin-E
    @Edwin-E ปีที่แล้ว +48

    check the neck relief first to make sure that the neck is straight before shaving the saddle.

    • @carlmarx6427
      @carlmarx6427 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How to check the relief 😢

    • @Edwin-E
      @Edwin-E 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@carlmarx6427 Quick way to check is press 6th string on the 1st fret and 14 fret, then check the gap between strings on the 7th fret. That should be very small, almost touching.

    • @diggetydug
      @diggetydug 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@Edwin-E if it is straight, then I need to shave the saddle? My 1st fret is already pretty close. Worried the rod will create a buzz if I fix it there. 12th fret is close to a 1/8" gap.

    • @thrashtronaut999
      @thrashtronaut999 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diggetydugif it is straight, your trustrod does not need adjustment. Then moving on to the saddle, follow the original video.

  • @davewoelkers6189
    @davewoelkers6189 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I keep mine .10 and .85 usually at the 12th. Humidity is a huge factor in maintaining that so it’s more ideal to do 1/4 turn adjustments on the truss rod. Shaving the saddle would make more sense after a fret dressing

    • @NipunKushSrivastava
      @NipunKushSrivastava 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How to shave the saddle? Can I just rub it against the ruler?

    • @Blackfang_12
      @Blackfang_12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NipunKushSrivastava sandpaper or a flat metal file. I've used a flat metal file to save time and finished it with 600 grit sandpaper on a bone saddle.

  • @godzilla964
    @godzilla964 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I need to do that with my classical guitar.

  • @vbeats3054
    @vbeats3054 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thankyou, Quite informative & helpful in short 👍🏻

  • @pardeepsharma3414
    @pardeepsharma3414 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    done for my guitar. Now it is much easier to play

  • @stoicsceptic8420
    @stoicsceptic8420 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is light on actual detailed information , dangerous !

  • @Kiobo7n7
    @Kiobo7n7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    most string height issues on acoustic guitars come from the guitar top arching and the neck sinking into the guitar, shave the saddle is just a placebo

  • @kevinkopelman
    @kevinkopelman 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Saddle needs to be shaved only after first making sure nut slots and truss rod are correct. If you adjust nut and truss after, you will probably have to change your saddle height again afterward and now it might be too low.

    • @nickster5286
      @nickster5286 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly

  • @marbomangu5023
    @marbomangu5023 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks man

  • @SenfMustard
    @SenfMustard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should adjust the truss rod if it needs adjusting though. A straight truss rod not only sets the action but also allows the guitar to vibrate and play better.
    Action from the saddle should only be done once the truss rod has been adjusted properly

  • @NHAnimation-ms4ig
    @NHAnimation-ms4ig 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Meanwhile my fake guitar is like more than 4 cm. Didn't have truss rod and the bridge is too high, that didn't have pin on bridge.

    • @JayJackal
      @JayJackal หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine is 7cm on the 12th, fake guitar also. But yeah playing over the 5th fret feels hard.

  • @EmmuFlicks
    @EmmuFlicks ปีที่แล้ว +8

    im scared ill shave too much lol

  • @MORGUEZHR
    @MORGUEZHR 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should always ensure that the neck is straight before attempting to do this, still.

  • @Iamian0919
    @Iamian0919 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That first part sounded like fein

  • @sanzuisanzui460
    @sanzuisanzui460 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this❤

  • @wwefans4819
    @wwefans4819 ปีที่แล้ว

    i try this it work thanks man

  • @superbuilders
    @superbuilders ปีที่แล้ว +30

    My low e is 5.5 mm and i can shred imagine the pain 😩

    • @everythingfromadam
      @everythingfromadam ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You ok, man?😳

    • @Doesitmatter00710
      @Doesitmatter00710 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here i have to do that first i was thinking to tighten up truss rod but there was not so much bend at all.

    • @superbuilders
      @superbuilders 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @saikiran00710 mine is a cheap 10 dollar guitar no truss rod barley tunes

    • @superbuilders
      @superbuilders 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Someone-sv6re nope an unknown 10 dollar guitar

    • @RAMSOfficial
      @RAMSOfficial 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      if you wan't setting neck, string Tuning first to deffault. if you done,
      you can do adjust guitar neck for 2,8mm / 2,5mm / 2mm
      if using string 010 you can adjust Low E freth 12 minimum 2,25mm, High E 2mm.
      one more setting nuth in freth 1 minimum 0,5mm/0,050mm

  • @mike23639
    @mike23639 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Check for shims under the saddle before you shave.

  • @lawrencedaveborlaza4493
    @lawrencedaveborlaza4493 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what happens if i shaved the top?

    • @hyde2326
      @hyde2326 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't

  • @dasbo1fan
    @dasbo1fan 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the guitar saddle suppose to be 1cm in height? That part confused me

  • @joe1205
    @joe1205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a fender strat and an older cheap rock jam one. Since I got my fender, I play it all the time. I picked up my old one and started playing it the other day and haven't picked it up since because the action is so high. I don't know if it was always that high.
    Do you know how I can reduce it?

    • @FenderFanboy91
      @FenderFanboy91 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adjust the saddles with a small allen wrench

  • @KevinLuper99
    @KevinLuper99 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah my bridge broke so now my high E just sits directly on the wood.

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Make a permanent change instead of adjusting a part that's meant to be adjusted. Got it.

    • @yardbirdsweet
      @yardbirdsweet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Saddles are cheap and easily replaceable, and sanding them is an extremely common part of setting up an acoustic’s action to a player’s preference. No need to be snarky.

    • @Eskii_NZL
      @Eskii_NZL ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well why not? If you want your action to be specific why not make a permanent change instead of having to readjust every time you hear feet buzzing

    • @qiamdof
      @qiamdof ปีที่แล้ว

      i think he meant adjusting the trust rod

    • @armadillolizard711
      @armadillolizard711 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually NEED to sand my saddle down since I just got it. If this short isn't for you just stfu.😁

    • @ky.5473
      @ky.5473 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      In some case, the neck is not adjustable. In classical nylon guitar for example you really have to sand the saddle since classical guitar doesn't have truss rod

  • @zeppelin815
    @zeppelin815 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like mine loww like 1.7mm to 2mm on the low e

  • @aechennn
    @aechennn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How you compute how much mm to cut on saddle after you got 3.4 mm and high e of 2.6?

    • @seenonyt2210
      @seenonyt2210 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      from what I read it's twice the amount compared to the twelfth fret. E.g. 1 mm too high at the twelfth = 2 mm at the bridge. This is because the twelfth fret is "exactly" midway between the nut and the bridge. (""Exactly", because someone saddles are slanted or have compensation for e.g
      the second string.)

  • @brucerain2106
    @brucerain2106 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I sanded it so much it doesn’t even touch the strings no more, and adjusted the truss rod, but the action is still high. Helpp

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please check your guitar neck

    • @Rqchel777
      @Rqchel777 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elvenderideas❤

  • @2619rishi
    @2619rishi 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    but i think it will make buzzing sound.

  • @teen90s
    @teen90s ปีที่แล้ว

    เยี่ยมมากครับกำลังหาวิธีอยู่เลย

  • @joeyy4950
    @joeyy4950 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro i did that too but it's so hard to tune now, the strings are breaking cause i keep on twisting the tuning keys just to reach the standard tune

  • @elielgoncalveslouro9684
    @elielgoncalveslouro9684 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ué o porque forçou um som ruim na opção de antes e no depois deu mais qualidade se a intenção do vídeo é altura de cordas, e isso não muda o som se não estiver trastejando só o conforto 🤷🏼‍♂️.

  • @Leon-Coils19912
    @Leon-Coils19912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice can u sand off the nut aswell?

  • @philtuliao4595
    @philtuliao4595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you can’t just shave the string saddle to have a good string action. if you don’t adjust the truss rod. but too much tension on the rod can cause a buzzing sound if the saddle is too low

  • @kleio7323
    @kleio7323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can i put back the same guitar strings i removed or i should put a new one?

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes you can.. as long as the strings are still okay

    • @kleio7323
      @kleio7323 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elvenderideas Thank you!!
      I just changed my strings and I also just realized that my guitar's action is high😅

  • @NgalaRaey
    @NgalaRaey 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please can you do for electric guitar please

  • @arroncajigas4260
    @arroncajigas4260 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this has a full video?

  • @99gamerz78
    @99gamerz78 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can anyone help me my guitar action is too high more then 1.5cm 😢

  • @RogerioDuarte
    @RogerioDuarte ปีที่แล้ว +2

    saddle less than 3mm kill the sound

  • @DHAIRYAMITTAL-zd4oi
    @DHAIRYAMITTAL-zd4oi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mine string action is 7 mm... So i able to 😢use only first 3 frets

  • @arjaytayan
    @arjaytayan หลายเดือนก่อน

    next fret dressing

  • @toomuchsugarush7821
    @toomuchsugarush7821 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    mine is 6 mm 💀💀

  • @MetalAtomico
    @MetalAtomico 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1.5/1.0mm

  • @cotton0108
    @cotton0108 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why i cant remove my saddle

  • @ahnafhabib5413
    @ahnafhabib5413 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine is like 1cm gap between fretboard and low e

  • @tanmoygvlogs1
    @tanmoygvlogs1 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the guiter name

  • @Shane-en6xq
    @Shane-en6xq ปีที่แล้ว

    what tool did u used to shave the saddle?

  • @bedabyasa_biswal_
    @bedabyasa_biswal_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where should we rest the ruler to measure?
    Above the Fret sticks or from the wooden base of fret ?
    Please reply; I need to do something to it.

  • @JAKENMK
    @JAKENMK 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an adjustable saddle and even set all the way down the action is about 8mm at the 12th fret. 😂

  • @muhammadfiqihnurhakim75
    @muhammadfiqihnurhakim75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My guitar 1.75mm in string low E and 0.75 in string high E😅

    • @prakhya123
      @prakhya123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      is it better ? so should one shave the saddle to get this action as mine is 4 mm on low E......

  • @matthewjdouglas6471
    @matthewjdouglas6471 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My action is about 8mm at the highest its unplayable

  • @keithkline6334
    @keithkline6334 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does that screw up the intonation ?

    • @Talon18136
      @Talon18136 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did it on mine and no the intonation it’s just fine I also made adjustments to my truss rod before even shaving the saddle down doesn’t take much

  • @nujhatshahrin8049
    @nujhatshahrin8049 ปีที่แล้ว

    I broke one bridge pin while doing this.. now what to do:")

  • @jeerymochahary9182
    @jeerymochahary9182 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't open saddle of my guitar

  • @samiandkashif
    @samiandkashif ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ap to Karigar ho

  • @krishlakhotiamaheshwari07
    @krishlakhotiamaheshwari07 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me who having 1 cm thinking action is low 😂😂

    • @prakhya123
      @prakhya123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LOL

  • @badhabit8824
    @badhabit8824 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These arguments are crazy. If you are a relief is correct then only a quarter turn and either directions should be made to the truss rod. If you cannot obtain the desired action from a quarter turn then you should then make adjustments to the nut and saddle like this guy did. Truss rods are specifically designed to adjust relief in the neck It should only be used to make small adjustments to the action.

    • @Barni2212
      @Barni2212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you have a cheap-ass guitar as mine, you don't have such a thing as truss rod XD

    • @Doesitmatter00710
      @Doesitmatter00710 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Barni2212😂😂😂

  • @kielmatthewreyes9892
    @kielmatthewreyes9892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pov: you own a classical

  • @z_9038
    @z_9038 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cough for days after inhaling microplastics.

  • @Anooppie
    @Anooppie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mines 1cm🥰

    • @prakhya123
      @prakhya123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      does it feel better while playing? does it buzz? should i shave my saddle as my low E is 4 mm 🥲

  • @Arkson_2010
    @Arkson_2010 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mine at 8.7 mm 😂

  • @Dyl-XL
    @Dyl-XL 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bros thumb is a pick

  • @sound_of_guitar
    @sound_of_guitar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guitar action is fine from 4 to 5.5 mm, buzzing will be from 2 to 3.5 mm.

  • @EasyGameroad
    @EasyGameroad ปีที่แล้ว

    Apa guna besi tanam di gitar🥵

  • @1911geek
    @1911geek ปีที่แล้ว

    Botched😮 Trying to make it look easy. Follow at your own risk folks uneven saddle under side. Which leads to imbalance intonation and so on. Bad practice lay flat on glass and have a guide for straight flat contact sanding

  • @fajarrestu7113
    @fajarrestu7113 ปีที่แล้ว

    6mm here

  • @zenn6843
    @zenn6843 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do i have metal inside my saddle

    • @afr3609
      @afr3609 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its piezo for capturing ur guitar string wave to produce sound to the amp

  • @pharmerdavid1432
    @pharmerdavid1432 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The FIRST thing you do is adjust the truss rod BEFORE altering the bridge saddle - this is HORRIBLE advice.

  • @elielgoncalveslouro9684
    @elielgoncalveslouro9684 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ganhou um 👎, só por isso 🤷🏼‍♂️ !

  • @AdrianBoisclair
    @AdrianBoisclair 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why shave saddle? If it’s a Taylor, a simple neck reset will do the job without any permanent changes.

  • @asidnasidn6588
    @asidnasidn6588 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's why you have long nails on one hand

  • @Palale_trolls_2.0
    @Palale_trolls_2.0 ปีที่แล้ว

    dont do that if you dont want your guitar get more vibration with playing

  • @dislikeme7639
    @dislikeme7639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    First of all: just practice and get used to it. Second of all: consult a luthier before doing this kind of stuff, you might lose a lot of money if you mess up.

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Cutting or shaving the saddle is the most safest method instead of ruin the truss rod.. 😊

    • @yardbirdsweet
      @yardbirdsweet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      A lot of money? The saddle in your guitar probably costs $5

    • @francescocalvanese6235
      @francescocalvanese6235 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Man it s rare to find a comment where every sentence is wrong. Congratulation!

    • @armadillolizard711
      @armadillolizard711 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's like 10 bucks...

    • @Aih.8373an
      @Aih.8373an ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the guitar is not comfortable to play
      Then it's worth nothing
      ..I do agree on getting a professional opinion before doing this stuff

  • @Snowy0123
    @Snowy0123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Trussrod adjustment to adjust string height??? That's how you know this guy doesn't know what he's doing.. not what the trussrod is for..

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Dude I will give you the detail of truss rod adjustments if you what. This technique is for guitar that doesn't have truss rod and it is safe. Remember wrongly adjusting the truss rod can be damaging your guitar.. 😊

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And please read the description and title before commenting. Thanks

    • @cariagakenchim8479
      @cariagakenchim8479 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Truss rod isn't for string's height, it is to straighten the neck if the tension of the strings curves the neck. It is to counter the tension not the height of the string

    • @siddhichetia
      @siddhichetia ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@cariagakenchim8479 exactly even if your neck is straight you would still have low action on the guitar sometimes you have to adjust the saddle and nut not only truss rod.

  • @pkplays5616
    @pkplays5616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nooooooo ....First try adjusting truss rod
    "Lefty Loosy Righty Tighty", If the problem persist...go to a luthier don't do anything by yourself..

    • @elvenderideas
      @elvenderideas  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please watch the video carefully.. btw if you don't have the knowledge of course just don't do it. Send it to me. Thanks