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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.พ. 2025
- In this video I introduce the Baldor 405U motor I bought to put on the monster Monarch Series 90. According to the data specs the power factor on this motor means it uses a good bit less electricity to produce mechanical work than the old motor probably did. I get it reconfigured and all wired up and test if it will actually start off my phase converter and existing electrical system. Thanks for Watching!
That motor starting up was music to the ears. Nice job.
Nice score Brian. Hope the rest of the install goes smoothly.
So great to know the Monarch has a heart again!
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
One thing about monster machinery - parts cost monster prices. And sometimes the money ain’t to get the parts you need.
I started at Ford as an Engineering co-op and spent 3 months at the Dearborn Engine Plant. They made the FE engine series there (352 thru 427 plus truck versions.) The head faces and pan rail + half rounds (main bearing saddles) were broached by huge 30 ft long broaches that were powered by huge 500 hp GE electric motors. One day the broach motor burned out. That was the spare. The first motor was back at GE for rebuild. The millwrights were told turnaround would be 6 weeks! The plant manager got involved and GE told him to go to the end of the line and WAIT because every motor in line to be rebuilt was a super special critical hot rush job and the GE facility was the only one that worked on those big motors!
Luckily, the DEP Manager was able to borrow a motor from the Cleveland Engine Plant.
@@stevenslater2669 see I expected you to say they hooked 2 427 to a splitter box and dropped them in place of the 500hp electric and went back to work. 😎
@@bcbloc02, that is how a tractor puller would have done it!
Wow! That's quite an upgrade. I'm sure it will serve you well. Congratulations.
Hope so!
Thank you Brian for bringing us along on this NOS Monster motor. Wow!
Big Monarch deserves that big new motor!
nice one Brian
hope it serves you well brother
Good to see you found a new motor to get the monarch back up and running. Thanks for sharing.
Good research and an excellent find.
Make sure you check the heaters on the contactor and they are sized properly
@@Unrivaledanime undersized heaters would just mean it would open circuit the motor before it reached rated power.
Thank you Brian!
Cool, massive motor for the monster.
Thats awesome, looks mint. We have some huge Baldor/Reliance at work that run 24/7 for decades.
I sure hope this one goes decades no issues!
I think "Warning! Danger to manifold" is very fitting for this upgrade 😎 Hope Brian is double clutching and not granny shifting the lathe, like he should.
Looking good. Can't wait to it back up and running.
Yea, I was missing the lights dimming every time Brian started that Monarch lathe up! Lol
They probably will really dip now!
congrats on the find and looking forward to chips
Hi Brian, stay warm, going to be cold this week…Paul in Orlando
We had a couple of almost 60 degree days as a tease.
Very nice Brian.
Looks like a nice upgrade for sure.
"I've got to have more power Scotty"!!
Certainly going to save you and be more efficient.
Thanks for sharing. 👍🇺🇸👍
“I’m given er all she’s got Cap’n”! Lol
@Hoaxer51 😎👍🇺🇸
Wow what a beastly of a motor Brian
Beast Mode! 😁 Bigger is Better, this is the American Way...
Always!
Glad to see ya got the little monarch bag up and going.
It has a motor again but still several details need addressed before it actually is working the lathe again.
@@bcbloc02 i got faith in ya.
That is a beast of a motor. It dewarfs my 30 horse RPC motor.
It dwarfs the 40hp that was on there.too. I bet it would make a heck of a phase converter.
@@bcbloc02 REALLY!
This shop has the right size equipment to fix the stoker engine :)
Yeah it would be a fairly straightforward job.
@@bcbloc02 Was never a doubt here! It've been DONE a LONG time ago!
Freakin incredible. I bet that motor is worth some coin.
I hope it turns out to be worth more than I paid for it!
No smoke that's a good thing.
I'm sure you know, but high eff motors draw more current on startup than old ones. Glad it fired up!
@@EngineersWorkshop locked rotor is 300amps no idea what locked rotor was on the old one.
The strangest motor i ever saw was a 300 hp 220 volt three phase , INSIDE a controlled atmosphere furnace . It ran a fan to circulate the argon purge . Voltage was low because of insulation viability at the 1800 degrees in the furnace . Double 500 mcm leads per phase , connected with copper studs through a glass window in the wall of the furnace . The starter was about the size of a minivan !
300hp on a 220v is a lot of amps! That thing must have been huge.
Looks like a very nice
TEFC motor
Happy Tuesday Brian!🛠⚙️👍👍👍👍✌️
Very nice. Well researched (no surprise there), should work out great. Congratulations.
Now we will see some monster chips. You will be soon known as Mr. Monster Chips.
Great to see big monarch back up and running, yes, motors need to run near FLC for efficiency.
Man that thing is a beast!
holy hell thats a big motor
Big as a trash barrell! Almost 1400lbs of motor :-)
It would be interesting to see what the current flow is in each leg is when that motor starts up, especially with the pulley and belts installed. It might reveal weather the windings will survive long term. Clamp on amp meters for AC can be had for not a lot of money.
Nice motor Brian. Sure is big.
Thanks it's a real beast!
LOL. Of course you turned the wick up. I never would have considered it... then again I don't have that kind of hardware.
Very Nice!
Nice new setup. Is that an Amp gauge on the control panel? That could be helpful for you. Take care Brian.
@@RRINTHESHOP the lathe is supposed to have a load meter which is an inductive ammeter. It sadly was broken sometime in the past. I looked a few times for a replacement but haven’t been able to find the right one.
Now that’s a motor fitting of your beast of a lathe!! Nice find! I wonder if it’s gonna be harder on the brakes on the lathe?
@@dmadere1 the motor runs all the time even when the spindle is stopped so it does not have any sort of brakes.
@ sounds good
Nice!
Nice very nice
👍👍....surely it wasn't cheap,but happy you've got the monarch cookin again feller👍👍👊
It took half the money heat for the shop was going to cost. Maybe in another year I can make it back and have heat next year.
@bcbloc02 👍right on feller...one thing at a time... know how it goes myself 👊
Thank you!
Good video and project.
Good morning.
Leave it to you to come u[p with a QSK for the Monster. Now all the town lights'll dim. Blessings
good video brian
LOL The lights dim when you kick that hog on.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How much horsepower ALLLLLLL OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Brian, I was wondering if you has a motor sorted or not. Thank you for another Great video. Cheers
I had to order a broach to make the pulley fit right. I still have several issues to address before its all like it should be.
@@bcbloc02 one step at a time. I am looking forward to seeing everything turning again. Cheers
Has Jeff sent You the dimensions of the shaft on the Cummins He is rebuilding ?
Thanks again for sharing Brian and Best Wishes.
Now, THAT’S a Motor….
nice
I’d like to see what the inrush current on that thing is! I know my 5ph single phase air compressor motor is at 135-140 amps inrush.
@@FishFind3000 should be about 300amps 3 phase according to the data sheet 😱
Yay!
Art from Ohio
The motor looked like it was spinning backward. If so, just swap two of the phases.
Induction motors do not like undervoltage, the loss of torque increases the slip and causes a large supply current increase that overheats the motor.
@@hughgilbert390 I have forward and reverse buttons on the lathe. I ran it in both directions during this video.
What’s the best way to get ahold of you about doing some line boring work?
@@markcollins325 email me bcbloc02 at yahoo
If you only got this thirty years ago you would have more time to play with it thanks
In ‘27, Brian will upgrade his Monarch with a Pratt & Whitney R-4360….
@@joeylawn36111 do you know where I can pick one up cheap? 😎
@@bcbloc02 LOL Unfortunately not....
That is hilarious, but a Wright 3350 would probably do….
@@bcbloc02Kermit Weeks in Orlampa Florida may have one at Fantasy of Flight ?
Naw, an 8.3 Cummins.
Right now it's just spending a shaft. Won't it draw more amps trying to bring itself up to speed when it's under the load?
@@wags9777 yes the more it has to spin up the harder it will draw on the electric.
@@bcbloc02
Locked rotor current probably won’t be that much more but the amps will stay up longer while it accelerates the load. Good that size lathe has a clutch so it’ll start without all the load
It still has to spin up against the hydraulic pump.
He’s, sounds like an Elevator when it starts, or a Jet Engine start cart
Congrats! What did you pay exactly for that NOS Motor? I cant afford to barely keep my old 13/36 Clausing running correctly - Cant imagine maintaining giant stuff like you got there!
@@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes $2500
Good to have some time to look around. Bigger size motors take a few days to arrive compared to the little ones you can pick up locally or get in a day from Graingers. Happened to have a spare 20 hp when the neighbor needed one in a hurry. Had owned it for a couple decades so I was surprised how long it was going to take him to get a new one.
I’m surprised you found a new U frame motor.
was that an EMP that blinked the camera when you hit the start button
No, just the inrush current dropping the voltage down considerably for everyone on the same service transformer as he is. He probably has his own transformer as it's a farm, and there could be a long service wire to this building from the transformer, so lots of voltage drop on high inrush!
@@gorak9000 yes but the camera is probably on battery power
Yes I have my own transformer there is about 300ft of wire between the lathe and it.
@@stephenreeves9025 but the lights in the shop are on the same power the phase converter is, so when the voltage dips, the lights go out for a tiny bit too - I know you're most likely being sarcastic, but without the /s on the internet, it's impossible to tell :)
Did you ever finish insulation on the ceiling?
@@FrancisoDoncona no things like this keep hijacking the funding for the ceiling.
With the price of copper you can scrap that out , install a little Diesel , and run it for years . I don't expect anything less from a man that has an 8.3 Cummins in his forklift ,,, !
Huh. My lights didn't dim when you clicked it on.
@@prototype3a wait till it’s all hooked up 😱
Looking at the chips sitting there beside the motor, I'm inclined to wonder if the old one failed because it somehow ingested a chip or two. Might be worth putting some window screen over any cooling openings to make sure it doesn't happen to this motor.
I was wondering the same thing... in that video where he takes the old engine off, the mess is disturbing...😮
New motor is totally enclosed design so should be no way for stuff to get in this one.
Are you in the basement?poor lighting.
@ no nice flex tho. I just want to see what’s up.
@@daleolson3506 can’t wait for spring when I can open the shop doors and get some more light.
Yeeha! Sounds great. Looking forward to the finals. Thanks.