Just a Tory minister getting slated by journalists on the morning round
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มี.ค. 2023
- Michelle Donelan doing a great job of making easy stuff look incredibly difficult.
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These journalists need to stop letting politicians like this yap on recycling the question and answer. Hold them to account and get them to answer the question.
When I see clip shows like this I realise how repetitive and homogeneous our mainstream media is. Basically she was asked the same 3 questions by each host and failed/outright refused to answer each time.
Down, tiger! (Or perhaps I should say, ‘Tigger’.)
Your comment reminded me of the famous interview between Jeremy Paxman and Michael Howard in which Howard is asked _12 times_ 'Did you threaten to overrule him?'
It’s the media they’re owned by the people who also fund the Tory party
I do not understand how politicians can just avoid questions without answering them. This has been going on for years. The journalists and politicians are either in it together or think the people of this country are idiots. They will sharp find out people are not stupid.
Whenever a Tory minister says "Well, look...", you know they're about to spout some top-tier BS.
I think you can spot BS as soon as they open their mouth
Along with. “Listen” and “we’ve been very clear”.
Grant shapps favourite two words.mine begin and end in f
Omg we have the most incompetent government I have ever known and I’m in my 70 s 😮
It's a crying shame so many of our generation voted for these buggers.
Doesn't know enough to give an informed opinion (not an immigration minister lol) but she sure has the gall to give an uninformed one
Not an immigration minister just a common or garden, run of the mill Muppet.
She is obviously not happy at the prospect of Capt BoJo putting his father forward for a knighthood or she would have said she was happy with it. Instead she tried to wriggle out of a tight spot by saying that it is just speculation. Yeh. Right!!!
I wonder if Ms Muppet has heard the old saying, NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE!
It kinda seems to apply in this matter don't you think?
What gets me, is that she says she isn't an immigration lawyer so doesn't know the legal routes for refugees, as if a refugee fleeing war would have access to an immigration lawyer
Yup, with the same old fake claim that most of them are economic migrants which the governments own asylum teams have refuted saying that some 98% of them are genuine asylum seekers.
Actual journalists would end the interview immediately with "you just admitted you aren't qualified to answer, good bye"... pathetic
Brilliant! Don't tempt me, I'd love to
So why interview her in first place🤔
The way the Tories talk about this issue is as if they weren't in government for the past 13 years. They use this issue to distract from other failures such as the cost of living, housing, corruption etc because, unfortunately, a large segment of the population fall for it.
It's such an obvious distraction, but when the majority of Brits seem to revel in complete bigotry it works. This country is such a joke when you compare our asylum claims to Germany or France. Brainrot and ignorance is easy for the masses who don't care about facts. This issue was made by the Tories so they could 'fix' the mess they made brag about it.
Nailed it 👍
Agree 100%. All this sudden so called crisis of immigrants, which are lies (that haven't been rectified in 13 years with the Tories) is a blatant smokescreen of ALL other horrendous failures of this current Government. Unfortunately it is a failing corrupt Government, running out of further ideas, trying to work out how they are going to win the next general election. So they tried it with Brexit and the racist vote (But we got Brexit done) No you didn't, you self inflicted a country into self inflicted sanctions. They are now going for the racist vote again, and its sad to say, but there is too many racist dullards in this country to fall for these lies.
All Tory M.P.s should be asked the question, "How do people apply for asylum ti the U.K."
Great the interviewer stuck to her guns.
Here is the answer from the Immigration Observatory at Oxford
_"To claim asylum in the UK, a person must be in the UK. It is not possible to apply from outside the country, and there is no asylum visa to enable people to travel to the UK legally to apply for asylum."_
What a twisted and nasty logic the Tories have applied
Catch 22. Very conservative
@@ianoliver3130 Yup, a Braverman Special.
Nasty.
Yeah, couldn’t agree more, nasty inhumane treatment of people who are desperately crossing the channel, a very busy shipping route in bloody dinghies! These people are that desperate to get here they will put their lives on the line. It’s sick.
Its because they're all old-school boys club racists.
Why don't they just fly in on a tourist visa, then apply once they were here. GIven the process would take years, that would be a much safer bet.
She uses the excuse that she's minister for science & technology, for which her BA in history must have prepared her very well.
And innovation or was invention,inventing lies and deceit is a speciallity
well, yeah. if you listen to the cobblers she is venting about that, it is then even MORE disturbing. AI blah blah, 250 MILLION blah blah. where? why? according to Rishi (another nonsense spouting retard) we are in a "technology revolution" MORE WORLD CHANGING than the Industrial Revolution. wow. really. huh. can we just re-join Horizon then so that all the graduates don't just naff off abroad? then we might get some ACTUAL intellectual "experts" (ruh roh) who would debunk this horseshit.
Too many people with BAs running leadership positions that require numeracy
Defending a policy she doesn’t understand 😂
Where's Therese Coffey when you desperately need back up??!
@@christopherjohnson8896 She couldn't turnip
@@markmaher4548 class lol
@@TheWiseJames I've got a better one, it's that she was a Baker.. no wait that not it... this will be good just wait for it.. its like she was trying to make 10 jokes but none landed... no pun in ten did
@@michaeldeane9243 Nah Mark Maher still beats you on this one :). nice try tho.
😂😂😂. Apparently the Science and Tech Secretary drew the short straw because Braverman was too cowardly to answer indefensible questions about an illegal policy.
Ive not seen that nasty little terrier for months in interview.
@@hiigara2085 I think she is barred because she's terrible at unscripted interviews. Not that this minister on show is much better.
@@hiigara2085 She went into hiding after being hammered yet again this morning. One evil woman who is so far out of her depth she can't do any more than just spout lies and hate filled cliches that aren't actually true to try and deflect her inadequacies.
She should not have been doing interviews, she is clueless.
Politics is at an all time low in this country. Politicians, especially Tories, simply do not answer questions, they just have stock quotes, slogans and memes, along with continuously gaslight. It’s embarassing
all time low is being kind .There are no politicians on the Conservative benches . Not a 1 .Disgusting .
Like a fucking black mirror episode
Unconscionable
when was politics at an all time high in this country????
@@maarifa4772
Ah, your being far too cynical.
Try 7th July 2022... Made my week.
What's really embarrassing is they seem to think we don't notice; just how little do they think of us!
"It's not fair" she says. "I'm not the Immigration Minister I'm the Science Technology & Innovation Secretary of State!" ? Why is she doing the media rounds promoting government immigration policy then?
Because that way she can't answer the questions that can't be answered.
They usually do this to relatively 'novice' ministers - that way they have an excuse for not answering well and senior ministers aren't caught out over their own policies.
Basically, they're interview cannon fodder.
Logical questions like this will only make them panic more. Are your trying to make them panic?
@@7ookee Absolutely!!! And the sad thing is it's just so easy to do 🥴🤗😂
She drew the short straw...or the others were busy not answering the questions elsewhere.
There is no legal route. End of. These politicians must think we are really stupid.
Yes. They think we are all stupid whilst we know that they are
🥴🤗😂
That is technically incorrect.
From the Immigration Observatory at Oxford
_"To claim asylum in the UK, a person must be in the UK. It is not possible to apply from outside the country, and there is no asylum visa to enable people to travel to the UK legally to apply for asylum."_
A twisted double bind. - Only Braverman could come with something so sick.
She said it herself.... we've had too many years of rhetoric, it's time for some action..... Remind me, how long have the tories been in charge?
Far to long Ted. Far to long 🥴.
She said it herself...too many years.
“We are opening up other legal routes…”
Show me.
why, do you need refuge?
She can't show you things she just made up on the spot. She's not a magician she just an ordinary Tory liar.
A Liz Truss public speaking tribute act. Has any Tory actually answered “what is the legal route?”
Even the Home Secretary can't answer that question.
@@orraman5427 I think she is probably engaged ensuring that there are no legal routes; it’s one of the reasons she insists we escape the Convention written by Maxwell Fyffe the Conservative Lord Chancellor under 3 PMs and a Nuremberg Prosecutor.
If she thought she could get away with sinking the boats mid Channel she would in a second.
These People Traffickers really only need to donate 💴 💵 💴 💵 to the Tories to resolve the situation.
@@orraman5427 The guy who was grilling her (a Tory, as it happens) answered for her: "There aren't any".
@@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 It's Tim Loughton's only claim to fame.
@@martincopeland8153 Are you insinuating that the Tories may be open to corruption? 😲
The point is, how can she define illegal immigration if she can't define legal immigration.
Excellent observation
I’ve been sent out to answer questions and it’s grossly unfair for you to ask me questions 😂
We can't take everybody. That is true. We don't seem to accept anybody however. This country is embarrassing. If the Torys are in favour of people seeking asylum legally why have they removed all the legal avenues under which people might seek asylum.
That Mr Finbarz is a very good question and one which no Tory seems to want to answer. Of course we don't actually need them to answer as we all know the truth of the matter!!!
Standard new tory policy, make every hard decision catch.22
What legal avenues have they got rid of?
@@leehenry5764 all.
A prime minister, the son of immigrants, getting tough on new immigrants trying, in the absence of a clear, understandable and humanitarian legal process on how to get to Britain.
Crabs in a bucket mentality
He and Braverman don’t want others to have the same opportunities because they don’t work as hard as Sunak’s family, clearly.
Easiest way to stop illegal boats is to supply a safe boat for asylum seekers. Job done!
and stop having wars in their homelands. no wonder they want to flee.
@@kanedNunable Actually the increased refugee threat is going to come from hunger in the Middle East - A lot of work is going on to secure continued supply of Wheat from Ukraine which is the main supplier for N. Africa and the Middle East.
There's a bit of a panic on.
@@kanedNunable you should google right now what countries are at war and compare that to who is coming. then you can make an informed statement.
She learned from Johnson. Waffling her way around questions....
The Tories have been in power for 13 years! Whatever you think about immigration, for or against, the current situation is 100% down to the Tories!!
i think it was germany who invited as many migrants could come as possible. i don’t remember david cameron doing that.
@@danh5637 cameron was too busy throwing families into the fire to cover the two economic crashes they all massively profited from.
@@luminousfractal420 right
@@danh5637 Dude, we left the EU SIX years ago...At some point you have to take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and stop blaming everyone else for YOUR problems.
@@michaelcoward1902 i don’t think you read what i wrote properly. also we left in 2020 not six years ago. might have also had a small health problem since 2020 too. and also they’re not coming here on visas from the EU they’re coming to the UK illegally and then claiming asylum here when it was germany who made the offer not us. maybe get your facts straight gurl.
Just when you thought ministers could not get any thicker…….
Finally!! I think that is the first time a presenter that I have seen to challenge the politcian on saying it is "illegal" to travel here to claim asylum when it isn't. We are a signatory to the 1951 UNHCR Refugee Convention, it says anyone can claim asylum here no matter how they arrive. @0:45 Well done Kay Burley.
Chapter V: Article 31
Article 31 of the UN Refugee Convention 1951 states that refugees should not be penalized for illegal entry or presence in a country, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence. The article reads as follows:
"The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence."
Therefore, under international law, the UK government is prohibited from rejecting an asylum claim solely on the basis of how the individual arrived in the country, as long as they can demonstrate that their entry was necessary to escape persecution or other serious threats to their life or freedom.
It doesn't matter what some of the politicians say, it doesn't matter what the media say or repeating what the politicians have said, it doesn't matter what your friends have said, your opinions do not change reality. It isn't illegal to claim asylum here, under international law to which we are a signatory under the 1951 UNHCR Refugee Convention, it says anyone can claim asylum here no matter how they arrive.
Of course the government has the right to change or repeal those laws but until then you cannot claim it is illegal because it isn't.
Also if the government is so concerned about the small boat crossings why is it that in Boris's 'oven ready' brexit deal he didn't renew the returns agreement so we could send them back. The clowns in government are having to fix their own mess.
A Durham University - Law School report: February 9, 2023
Main conclusions
-----------------------
1. The primary factor behind small boat crossings is the UK’s lacking a returns
agreement with the EU. (Dublin Convention 2003)
The Report’s main finding is that the lack of a returns agreement with the EU is the primary factor behind the current problem. The Government never assessed the impact of the consequences for leaving the EU without a returns agreement to replace the Dublin III Regulation and was caught by surprise. The UK did not need to leave this agreement in leaving the EU. Non-EU members have returns agreements with the EU.
I probably won't be able to post the link here but those main conclusions are page 5 of the Durham University report called:
Sea Change on Border Control: A Strategy for Reducing Small Boat Crossings in the English Channel
Durham University - Law School: February 9, 2023
The moment she says she's not qualified to answer a question because she's not the relevant minister is the minute they should shut the interview down and ask for the immigration minister instead
This is so true, the media plays into the Tories hands, they can always say dont ask me im the wrong minister.
The same Johnson that broke his wife's nose that he admitted to? That's been accused of sexual assault? That - allegedly - told his housemaids that they were saving on water useage so they should carry out their duties naked to save on washing clothes? That Johnson?
Crikey. I think I prefer the KGB (no such thing as an _ex_ KGB member, according to Putin) son who partied with the Johnson son in Italy having escaped his own security staff and convinced him to take the Leave side.
Gosh! It's all a bit grubby and seedy, isn't it? Crumbs!
The look on her face when Sally said "you don't know" totally blank, not a clue on what she's talking about...
Tory government punching down as ever.
Imagine trying to win my vote by stating you will not help human's fleeing war.. 🤷♂
Sad;y for us there are vile people out there who will vote Tory for exactly that reason.
@@Lynnefromlyn Sad times in the UK when the Government is pandering to bigots and the worst amongst us out of sheer desperation.
any country signed up to the Geneva Convention (1953, I think..), UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights (1948), UN more generally or ECHR ....notwithstanding their own national constitutional bills of human rights ...knows full well that discriminating by having "categories" of refugees is completely illegal under International law. Effectively she's not a lawyer but anyone having basic history knows that!
"I think there are bigger fish to fry to be honest."
And yet we're still waiting for the police investigation into Covid, the PPE Billions, Track & Trace. We're also still the only G7 country that hasn't regained prepandemic levels on our economy, are lacking food, workers, every public service is crying out for government help.
We know we have bigger fish, but your lot won't even look at those either! 🤬
and when is the enquiry into putins involvement with brexit?
I want to know exactly what these f*&^ers do to earn so much bloody money! They get almost free expensive fancy lunches, second homes, a whole heap of extras including trying to use tax payers money to heat their sodding stables for christ sake, but nothing, NOTHING ever seems to get done!
Honestly, Tories are nowt but thieves. x
@@carrietalbot-ashby4856 I think that's the first time I've seen the word honestly and Tory in the same sentence in my life! 😁 😂
"We have to introduce inhumanely harsh laws to solve the problem we caused deliberately to make political capital out of encouraging hatred.
It's a sacrifice well worth making to have Got Brexit Done and getting rid of the legal obligations of the EU to stop them coming across from their side..."
Sure, ban the small boats, but only AFTER safe, official routes have been put in place. Not before.
Maybe these new, safer routes go directly to the sunlit uplands.
'They're not fleeing persecution, they're economic migrants' - like the parents of the PM and half the cabinet who are pulling up the ladder?
and tens of millions of economic migrants from this country worldwide over the years...what profound hypocrisy
Beyond clueless.
The issue is many of the ppl crossings through the safe countries speak English, not French,Spanish and there isn’t a legal route
7:37 - "I think there are bigger fish to fry to be honest" - Your party doesn't seem to be frying any fish at all
Does Donelan know which day of the week it is, or will she need clarification on that?
Even when given clarification she gives the strong impression that she wouldn’t want to speculate on that.
How can a minister go on national television and not be able to answer a simple question???
I love how the smile just fades at the start of the video
Burley hit the nail on the head, it’s the smugglers. They aren’t tackling the smugglers but the trafficked
But it's not illegal to travel through other countries or the mode of how they arrived. Asylum should be based on each individuals merit. All that will happen is ordinary people being criminalised, not gangs.
They may as well just sent a bloody parrot.
Now then a parrot would make more sense :)
@@HelenaMikas Yup!!🤣😂
These clips continue to demonstrate how politicians are so far removed from the everyday person. How much more refreshing would it be to have a politician come up and answer questions honestly and in a straight forward manner.
The more I hear politicians these days, the more I think to myself, these people are nothing like me, they do not represent me, they're nothing like the average/normal person.
You need to open the routes first
Should have asked if a Ukrainian refugee who has arrived in France (through at least 4 safe countries) will be refused entry to Britain.
Speculation is obviously the favourite word here 🤣
*Talks about immigration
*is asked question about immigration
*responds with "it's not my job to go into details"
Stfu then
The answer to the question posed about iranian (or any other nationality)is if you cannot come by plane you cannot come the uk does not want you
Save a lot of time if government changed the laws to close the borders to anyone who cannot buy their way in since that is effectively how things stand
Not wanted folks go elsewhere is the uk motto just now
Sad but true
"Coming here illegally" - no such thing.
"Crossing safe countries" - absolutely no requirement for asylum seekers to stop in the nearest country.
Why do they keep telling these lies?!
How do they come legally?
Can't help but feel that if we stopped starting wars and walking away from them we wouldn't have such an influx of asylum seekers.
bc there are so many wars in albania
@@LowAmbitions Maybe look into the history of Albania before commenting and confirming what we already knew you to be.
Where's the money in that though. You've got to think of the arms manufacturers. No wars means no jobs for them, which means Britain can't use is military prowess around the world as it used to. Think man think.
@@kowalskizapata3058 what current war is in Albania CURRENT. Talking about history?? This is a, again current issue, lol. Continue...
@@kowalskizapata3058 Albania is not currently under threat but it is prepared for the worst-case scenario, said Defence Minister Niko Peleshi, referring to the purchase of Bayraktar drones from Turkey. Simple Google search, ok and now I've looked into the current state and would like you to explain as to why someone needs to flee a country because of a war past? A country that is not currently at war. Maybe for economic reasons?!? Duh
no matter your opinion on migrants, the fact that so many feel compelled to risk their lives crossing one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes in little more than beech toys is one of many symptoms of a much bigger problem. the tory response is akin to treating someone for their sore throat after they’ve just been shot!
such leadership lol
According to Wikipedia.. (if accurate)
‘Donelan's partner, Tom Turner, is Commercial Head at his family-owned business Stronghold Global; they supplied government bodies including the Department of Health and Social Care with Personal Protective Equipment.’
Possibly made a ton of money during the pandadic? 🤔
The first sentence she confirmed it's because of Brexit.
"We can't take everyone"
12% of the country is built upon. 20% of houses is unoccupied.
Also, loads of economic migrants have left to go back to the EU after suffering abuse following Brexit - we've lost millions of people helping in agriculture. Literally food in crops going to waste as supermarket shelves are empty.
If you call for "we can't take everyone" kind of rhetoric, you need your brain looking at.
neofascist far right tory/ukip govenment possesses no such organ--nor any heart..repellent even satanically evil
The evasive answers this lackey gave amounted to nothing more than bum wind.
its the only thing moving in Dover ,the rubber bridge that was not there before Brexit
An unhealthy obsession will small boats would have been an interesting case for Freud. Perhaps they should explain the term: "economic migrants" and how it differs from asylum.
The sub-text to "economic migrant" is "nasty foreigner who will steal your job." The reality is that people who are prepared to risk their lives to get to a country where they hope to find a job are a great deal more enterprising than the average gammon.
I think the small boat industry is thriving…
The figures are staggering because the government left the Dubs 3 amendment and failed to renegotiate an alternative.
She has a degree in history & politics. What the hell does she know about science (or anything else it seems)?!
Does she really go out “knocking on doors that aren’t even in her constituency “ !? Seems a bit odd?
A Knighthood for Geppetto 😂
Tories wheeling ou the lightweights just embarrassing
Thats kind of all they have these days lol
3:09 "it's not my job to know yet I'm here to answer questions relevant to the position it concerns"
Just the vi!e Tory as usual.
" I ,M SORRY I'M STRUGGLING TO HEAR THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION?...it's ok love your not going deaf...she did the classic don't answer and move the conversation on..hoping your,l not somehow notice she didn't answer!!..yeah that el WORK...RIGHT?!!🤔😏🙄🤣🙌
It’s the dizzy lizzie syndrome notice how long she paused struggling to think of more distraction & lies and avoidance
We may as well open up peerages to the general public and raffle them off? Every hood in the country will have one shortly.
Is there any chance I can swap places with one of the boat people because this country is gone to the dogs because of the tories
Shows positions are out of touch with reality and don’t have an answer. And to have a person like this in terms of science and technology is very concerning … I think the “ hasn’t got a clue” comes to mind
She has a BA in history!
And obviously lots of contacts in the right places then! That suggests the average graduate in science could be the pm!
ITS NOT ILLEGAL TO TRAVEL HERE BY BOAT, just to smuggle people here, the journalists need to push for an answer for this
Even that tory worm ferrari got a nepotistic dig in!
The bloody Pharaohs would've loved this lot. Rachel better start wearing jeans at this rate! 😆
Just gonna wait here for safe routes while the rest of the world manages much higher numbers.
When interviewed by the BBC breakfast there was many hesitant gaps between the question asked and the answer she gave??? I wonder why 🤔
Another morning..another minister getting rinised on the morning round embarrassing themselves and there party..delving to new lows. 😏🙄🤣🙌
There delivering bulls””T!
Coming to this country and claim asylum is NOT illegal. It does NOT matter how many countries you have passed before. Getting rid or pausing human rights is NOT for asylum seekers its for you the British people (like the freedom of movements which is restricting your rights). This country would benefit from a higher immigration rate because there is a shortage of workers (1 Million). So there is a problem with immigration because its to low. There is NO problem with asylum which is very low compared to other countries. The applications are processed to slow and the government should have accepted the french offer to open processing centers in France which would prevent people from dangerous travels.
“Bigger fish to fry” yes correct, you lot!
List honours from a lucky bag it's a complete joke
And the Therese Coffey incompetent plank award goes to .......
She’s doing a Liz Truss impersonation!
Go and check number of refugees Poland took last year. Brittain is dealing with fraction of that number. My conlusion on this matter is tories are using small boats as carrot on the stick for xenophobes racists and less intelectually gifted individuals. Unfortunatly you have plenty of both. Last time it was 48/52...
A person who successfully applies for an unrelated visa (for example, a tourist visa) can enter the UK lawfully and claim asylum without breaching section 40 of NABA.
Unstable countries don't provide facilities to apply for visitor visas. You try applying for a visitor visas from France with no passport and see how far you get .
@SassySam Bloody hell, what you and your family went through was horrendous. I hope you were all able to recover and rebuild your lives to some extent after this, I’m sorry for your loss.
@SassySam read exactly what i posted. it is literally an extract from gov guidelines. i was not making a point, this is what the gov say... im sorry about what has happened to you and your family. but this is about the illegals... you havent stated what country you were trying to get a visa from i.e. where she would be coming from. seeing as there was a back and forth i presume it wasnt a country at war. again really sad story of yours and i wish you all the best.
not gona stop one boat.
My TH-cam kept buffering every time Michelle was given the opportunity to respond, odd that 😐😑
No they are not in favour of people applying legally. Otherwise their would be an avenue to apply? Shocking!
Nepotism is one of the Conservatives' core values.
Why do we keep seeing politicians being interviewed in industrial environments? What’s the subtext here?🤔
sick pretense about having any grasp on reality whatsoever--which they don't
I think they ALL Know the solution! Go to the source (IN France) and that must be those that supply the transportation?
Full of piss and wind springs to mind !
Sunak, not up to the job
Haha is it wrong that I enjoyed watching her squirm? She really didn't expect those questions, how is that possible
How the hell did this woman get a job in are government it’s mine blowing .I’m putt my name down there’s a chance yet to get on the money train .😂😂
I find the cross channel ferry to be crowded and unpleasant.
That boat looks like a dangerous hell
did churchill nominate his dad. did heath. did thatcher. did major. did cameron or may ???? no but it looks like the corrupt johnson just might, bigger fish to fry indeed (ps i know most of these guys / gals dad's were probably dead but that's not the point. why do we allow johnson to keep doing the unthinkable)
This government is ailing.