How are humans free if they aren't free to trade with each other? How can you call me free if you prevent me from trading with another, consenting individual? I think free markets are an inseparable part of human freedom.
"As long as you deny the possiblity of state, banks and corporations cooperating in crime, you´re nothing but an obfuscator" Interesting, and I couldn't agree more. Friedman's lectures are excellent for pointing out the problems of govt interference. "banls and corporations do?" Banks and corporations have competition. Govt does not. Competition destroys corrupt businesses, because they are less efficient. Corruption thrives where there is government.
That's right, it is to be desired. Not necessarily by me, it doesn't affect me in the slightest. And in the case that the people desire it, they should know what is being paid for, the feasibility of the repairs and additions, and what the budget is, as they are paying for it.
Green energy has already been subsidized, with disastrous results, and the oil and gas industry isn't subsidized at all. If you don;t understand the difference between a subsidy and a tax write-off for the cost of exploration and development, then please don't reply. The tax payer is being forced to invest in the failing "green" energy market, now.
The total amount of oil that the US imports from the whole of the middle east is 'less' than what it gets from Canada. On top of that, US imports from Mexico and South America also dwarf imports from the Opec countries. The simplest answer is rarely the truth.
Then I'll ask you again, how can taxing carbon emissions (actually trading and selling permission to pollute, to profit lawyers and politicians) ensure growth (it would slow growth), or environmental sustainability ( the major polluters would continue to pollute, and in fact increase production to meet the market created by crippling our ability to produce). How does that work?
While it's true we get 40% from OPEC (Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries), very little of that actually comes from the middle east. We get 24% from Canada alone, while only getting 11% from Saudi Arabia
We have a lot in common I'm sure, and I am not against government intervention when it is in the interest of of the citizens. Unfortunately the government acts in it's own perceived interest for the most part, and since that is the case, I prefer that those entities stay out of the affairs of the citizen, and at the very least present a budget so the citizenry may make those decisions.
I enjoy the discussion, I don't like the tone. The unnecessary reference to the electoral college as if 58 year old citizen of the US needs to be so informed, for example. Let us assume that I am an adult of reasonable intelligence, and that I have a different point of view in regard to how this country should be run.
I would suggest that we first define "pollution", then eliminate Co2 from the list of pollutants, then we may begin an honest approach to the problem. However, it will have little effect in the matter, largely because of China and India who will continue to produce in the manner that they are now. I have no interest in funding "science" whatsoever, and I'm still waiting for a budget concerning the infrastructure.
China's level of pollutants has nothing to do with the lack of regulation. It has more to do with the lack of competition (from other cities) as to the livability & innovation of places compared to the likes of Beijing and Hong Kong. Because these places are highly concentrated areas of advancement (compared to other areas), there's very little opportunity in the way of controlling or creating diverse forms of energy consumption.
Occam's razor can be a useful rule of thumb, but should not be taken as writ. if quantum mechanics has taught us anything it's that the right answer is often completely counter-intuitive, or at least inobvious.
Where did you get your stats? I'd like to see them. According to the commerce department we get 40% of US oil from opec countries ( Saudi Arabia). Also, how many products made overseas are made by way of opec oil. What percent of worlds commerce uses opec oil? The dollar is the world's standard currency. Once again the simplest answer and all that.
The political reason to regulate energy is to get certain interest groups to donate to your campaign, or because you don't like something based on no rational reason and want to do away with it. Kinda like Obama regulating Coal out of existence.
Spending on the infrastructure is to be desired, If tax payers are to pay for this spending then they should be presented with a budget, yes? Do you in your personal life want to pay for that, for which you don't know the price? I know what the definition for a pollutant is, and I do not expect to pay for the reduction of these pollutants based on what is not known about them. In fact, I don't see the point of trying to reduce them at all, as China and India will continue to pollute, and the....
How in the world can taxing carbon emissions lead to energy independence? By providing funds for research and development? In the astonishing event that the tax revenues were used for such a thing, the outcome would be a great increase in the price of fuel( tax added ,cost added), and a huge advantage for the Chinese who would ignore the idiocy to begin with. The economy would shrink, revenues would shrink, and once again the government will have screwed the pooch. Gov, interference is the ...
And the government is still doing the same garbage today. The definition of insanity. Under the Trump Administration we were energy independent and gas got down to $1.86 gallon for regular.
I asked you a question, therefore I am an idiot. "Iraq is basically owned by Halliburton", is a vague and thus far unsupported assertion, and I am asking for support of the assertion .
If the lack of desire to be milked for the the governments endless and constant social manipulation makes me a "nihilist", then so be it, and if the government is the root cause of the problem, why in the world should we look to government for the answer to the problem that it has created?
Your comments are not very cohesive. This implies that you've heard a few snippets of information and are piecing them together before you have the full story. Keep studying my friend! You are on you way to self knowledge! Good Luck!
I don't know that they lied, and neither do you. I am not a "libertarian", or a conservative, and I tend to be skeptical about every thing that I am exposed to. I have not mentioned the free market, nor have I purported to be an advocate of same. My question was,and is a very simple one, do you intend to answer it, or just continue on in this manner? I'll try once more, who is in control of the Iraqi oil market?
..problem, not the solution to the problem, and just about every problem this country faces today, can be traced to the government as the originator. The very lawyers and financiers that you speak of, work for, or in collusion with, the government, and they act in their own economic and political interest, not the interest of the people. Smaller government is the only way to impede this nonsense, not higher taxes that lower revenues in the first place, and are misused, in the second place.
All I care about is penalizing the American tax payer for what they do not, and cannot control, and by that means effect not the slightest change in the outcome of the issue. The Chinese will pollute at a much greater rate than the US, in any case.
I am certainly aware that governments act in their own perceived interest, and if that is the case in this matter it was a failure of the magnitude of 2 trillion dollars. My only claim is that the Iraqi Ministry of Oil controls the resource, and that they do business with whom they choose. I've told you that I am not a libertarian twice now, so maybe you should knock that shit off.
Friedman believed, until very late in life, that a govt central bank and fiat currency was a great idea. His problem was as many other smart people, in thinking that govt bureaucrats and politicians were capable of exercising self control. You will see him talk about an inflation rate of some 2% as being a good idea, as controlled by a central bank. This would mirror gold, which has a mining rate of some 2% per year. I think, before he died, he realized that govt would never have self control.
I see, in your view the tax payer that pays for the work, is too stupid to see the bill. Seek government employment, you'll be perfect for the job. "The people that actually built the nation, aren't smart enough to maintain the nation."- Slogan for Obama,
I did not say a single word in support of the free market, I didn't refer to it at all, and I'm sure that you must mean the bloody and senseless history of man, as the history of socialism is one of horror, genocide, and poverty. on a scale of proportion unrivaled in modern times. Now, professor, I'll ask again, Who controls the oil resources of Iraq, and how are they doing so? I prefer statistical, demonstrative evidence, as opposed to a speech. Who are "you guys", by the way?
You are wrong. We fought a war for regime change in Iraq. You know, as well as I do, that no nation engages in war if it feels it will not have something to gain from it. So stop playing this asinine game. I have even provided you with credible news sources to back up my claims. You have done no such thing. So your claims are completely irrelevant and as such are not representative of the reality we live in. I expected nothing more from a libertarian.
"contractors on it's behalf...fierce opposition..." this is sheer poofery, and like most nonsense, it is boring. The Iraqi Ministry of Oil, controls the resource, and does business with whom it desires, including American firms.
Thank you mr. Friedman, you opened my eyes a while ago, i was blind before that
finally finished watching all 136 of these, thanks a ton
Imports (jan 2013) total - 311,312 (thousands of barrels)
Opec imports - 119,342
Middle East contries - 77,155
Canada - 106,437
Mexico - 33,111
How are humans free if they aren't free to trade with each other? How can you call me free if you prevent me from trading with another, consenting individual? I think free markets are an inseparable part of human freedom.
"As long as you deny the possiblity of state, banks and corporations cooperating in crime, you´re nothing but an obfuscator"
Interesting, and I couldn't agree more.
Friedman's lectures are excellent for pointing out the problems of govt interference.
"banls and corporations do?"
Banks and corporations have competition. Govt does not.
Competition destroys corrupt businesses, because they are less efficient. Corruption thrives where there is government.
That's right, it is to be desired. Not necessarily by me, it doesn't affect me in the slightest. And in the case that the people desire it, they should know what is being paid for, the feasibility of the repairs and additions, and what the budget is, as they are paying for it.
Einstein always said that if you couldn't explain a theory to a child, you really don't understand it yourself.
Friedman's lectures are always excellent. His attachment to govt money was sad.
I didn't ask for spending on infrastructure, I said that if spending took place, that I would like to see the budget.
Green energy has already been subsidized, with disastrous results, and the oil and gas industry isn't subsidized at all. If you don;t understand the difference between a subsidy and a tax write-off for the cost of exploration and development, then please don't reply. The tax payer is being forced to invest in the failing "green" energy market, now.
Rune, you are right.
"Unbridled pollution regulations..." Good one.
Just because we have never experienced true freedom doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to attain it, right?
I don't disagree with that, but forcing further cost on polluters will not change that, and it would affect the Chinese not at all.
Oil is much more expensive from Canada i think. due to the extraction process being more complicated
The total amount of oil that the US imports from the whole of the middle east is 'less' than what it gets from Canada. On top of that, US imports from Mexico and South America also dwarf imports from the Opec countries. The simplest answer is rarely the truth.
Then I'll ask you again, how can taxing carbon emissions (actually trading and selling permission to pollute, to profit lawyers and politicians) ensure growth (it would slow growth), or environmental sustainability ( the major polluters would continue to pollute, and in fact increase production to meet the market created by crippling our ability to produce). How does that work?
While it's true we get 40% from OPEC (Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries), very little of that actually comes from the middle east. We get 24% from Canada alone, while only getting 11% from Saudi Arabia
We have a lot in common I'm sure, and I am not against government intervention when it is in the interest of of the citizens. Unfortunately the government acts in it's own perceived interest for the most part, and since that is the case, I prefer that those entities stay out of the affairs of the citizen, and at the very least present a budget so the citizenry may make those decisions.
I enjoy the discussion, I don't like the tone. The unnecessary reference to the electoral college as if 58 year old citizen of the US needs to be so informed, for example. Let us assume that I am an adult of reasonable intelligence, and that I have a different point of view in regard to how this country should be run.
I would suggest that we first define "pollution", then eliminate Co2 from the list of pollutants, then we may begin an honest approach to the problem. However, it will have little effect in the matter, largely because of China and India who will continue to produce in the manner that they are now. I have no interest in funding "science" whatsoever, and I'm still waiting for a budget concerning the infrastructure.
China's level of pollutants has nothing to do with the lack of regulation. It has more to do with the lack of competition (from other cities) as to the livability & innovation of places compared to the likes of Beijing and Hong Kong. Because these places are highly concentrated areas of advancement (compared to other areas), there's very little opportunity in the way of controlling or creating diverse forms of energy consumption.
He wasn't referring to smog, was he?
Interesting.
Canadian Oil is Nationalized?
Occam's razor can be a useful rule of thumb, but should not be taken as writ. if quantum mechanics has taught us anything it's that the right answer is often completely counter-intuitive, or at least inobvious.
Where did you get your stats? I'd like to see them. According to the commerce department we get 40% of US oil from opec countries ( Saudi Arabia). Also, how many products made overseas are made by way of opec oil. What percent of worlds commerce uses opec oil? The dollar is the world's standard currency. Once again the simplest answer and all that.
effort will be not only expensive, but pointless. Surely you recognize that pollutants are not confined to the place of origin.
The political reason to regulate energy is to get certain interest groups to donate to your campaign, or because you don't like something based on no rational reason and want to do away with it. Kinda like Obama regulating Coal out of existence.
Spending on the infrastructure is to be desired, If tax payers are to pay for this spending then they should be presented with a budget, yes? Do you in your personal life want to pay for that, for which you don't know the price? I know what the definition for a pollutant is, and I do not expect to pay for the reduction of these pollutants based on what is not known about them. In fact, I don't see the point of trying to reduce them at all, as China and India will continue to pollute, and the....
How in the world can taxing carbon emissions lead to energy independence? By providing funds for research and development? In the astonishing event that the tax revenues were used for such a thing, the outcome would be a great increase in the price of fuel( tax added ,cost added), and a huge advantage for the Chinese who would ignore the idiocy to begin with. The economy would shrink, revenues would shrink, and once again the government will have screwed the pooch. Gov, interference is the ...
And the government is still doing the same garbage today. The definition of insanity. Under the Trump Administration we were energy independent and gas got down to $1.86 gallon for regular.
I asked you a question, therefore I am an idiot. "Iraq is basically owned by Halliburton", is a vague and thus far unsupported assertion, and I am asking for support of the assertion .
If the lack of desire to be milked for the the governments endless and constant social manipulation makes me a "nihilist", then so be it, and if the government is the root cause of the problem, why in the world should we look to government for the answer to the problem that it has created?
Which "attachment", to government money?
Your comments are not very cohesive. This implies that you've heard a few snippets of information and are piecing them together before you have the full story. Keep studying my friend! You are on you way to self knowledge! Good Luck!
I don't know that they lied, and neither do you. I am not a "libertarian", or a conservative, and I tend to be skeptical about every thing that I am exposed to. I have not mentioned the free market, nor have I purported to be an advocate of same. My question was,and is a very simple one, do you intend to answer it, or just continue on in this manner? I'll try once more, who is in control of the Iraqi oil market?
..problem, not the solution to the problem, and just about every problem this country faces today, can be traced to the government as the originator. The very lawyers and financiers that you speak of, work for, or in collusion with, the government, and they act in their own economic and political interest, not the interest of the people. Smaller government is the only way to impede this nonsense, not higher taxes that lower revenues in the first place, and are misused, in the second place.
I'm against both of those, all it does is cost tax payers.
All I care about is penalizing the American tax payer for what they do not, and cannot control, and by that means effect not the slightest change in the outcome of the issue. The Chinese will pollute at a much greater rate than the US, in any case.
I am certainly aware that governments act in their own perceived interest, and if that is the case in this matter it was a failure of the magnitude of 2 trillion dollars. My only claim is that the Iraqi Ministry of Oil controls the resource, and that they do business with whom they choose. I've told you that I am not a libertarian twice now, so maybe you should knock that shit off.
Friedman believed, until very late in life, that a govt central bank and fiat currency was a great idea.
His problem was as many other smart people, in thinking that govt bureaucrats and politicians were capable of exercising self control.
You will see him talk about an inflation rate of some 2% as being a good idea, as controlled by a central bank. This would mirror gold, which has a mining rate of some 2% per year.
I think, before he died, he realized that govt would never have self control.
I see, in your view the tax payer that pays for the work, is too stupid to see the bill. Seek government employment, you'll be perfect for the job. "The people that actually built the nation, aren't smart enough to maintain the nation."- Slogan for Obama,
See; The Iraqi Ministry of Oil.
I did not say a single word in support of the free market, I didn't refer to it at all, and I'm sure that you must mean the bloody and senseless history of man, as the history of socialism is one of horror, genocide, and poverty. on a scale of proportion unrivaled in modern times. Now, professor, I'll ask again, Who controls the oil resources of Iraq, and how are they doing so? I prefer statistical, demonstrative evidence, as opposed to a speech. Who are "you guys", by the way?
What planet are you living on? "A people's history of the United States" is not a history book.
LOLWUT?
You are wrong. We fought a war for regime change in Iraq. You know, as well as I do, that no nation engages in war if it feels it will not have something to gain from it. So stop playing this asinine game. I have even provided you with credible news sources to back up my claims. You have done no such thing. So your claims are completely irrelevant and as such are not representative of the reality we live in. I expected nothing more from a libertarian.
"contractors on it's behalf...fierce opposition..." this is sheer poofery, and like most nonsense, it is boring. The Iraqi Ministry of Oil, controls the resource, and does business with whom it desires, including American firms.
Great, homework involving more unsubstantiated assertions, sorry that I asked.
I see, you're taking the "professorial" tone, with a 58 year old man now. It will not serve you well, and it will bore me, quickly.
He says Sodi Arabia, rather than Saudi Arabia