It's such a minute detail but the snow, blood and mud gathering on the weapon models in BFV adds a lot to the immersion and grittiness. Wish more games did that.
@@melcorchancla9431 is that portal splits the ortho in graphics I imagined and if you put a little more detail the bf2042 is at another graphic level and it is already noticeable in the maps and in all xd
@Who cares 123 Yet you need effects like snow blowing on the ground? It's a little sad to see details becoming less on BF2042 however I'd take 128 players any day over snow blowing on the ground.
@Who cares 123 That's actually against the general consensus. The maps are actually too big for people having 64 players would make the maps seem minute in scale , 128 player option was the right thing to do. I rather take all out Warfare over goddamn slow blowing.
BFV echoes sounds wider and feels like it's produced by "loud af gunshot" while 2042 feels like it's narrower and not as much impact/crackle to the echoes.
yep , apart from 128 players , BF V current condition is way better graphics , sound , physics , displacement & moving styles than 2042 (even without RT).
I honestly dont know how its physically possible that battlefield 1, a game from 2016, looks and plays 100x better. They got a bigger studio, started development early, only multiplayer game. Can someone explain how its possible because it literally should be impossible
The small things that were included in bf5 were a nice touch that seems to be missing from 2042. Things like your character whimpering in fear when a grenade landed next to you, and the barrel change out using the spent brass ECT. They brought a bit of life to your soldier, instead of them feeling like emotionless drones like most other fps games usually have. I hope we see more of that added to this latest installment. They have a little bit of it at the moment.
Why do we do this every battlefield. All I heard during the lifecycle of bfv was how HORRIBLE the game was and now that there’s a new one I’ve started hearing great things about bfv. We do this every time!
I think that it´s commonly agreed in the Battlefield community that staying at the 64 player count would have been much preferred due to sacrifice in visual quality, map design and overall game flow.
@@thehiddenone470 yeah rockstar is the best, I just love how they keep releasing gta v and milking it, also I love how boring rdr2 online is and lets not forget about how finished the gta remastered trilogy was. Yeah Rockstar is indeed the best... Sarcasm
@@ruok3351 yeah they were going to do much more like d day maps but ea pulled the plug and make 2042 and I am 100% sure they should have just stuck with battlefield 5
The BFV MP Producer tried to but was overuled a lot (like TTK update) and EA cut back on support and then left January 2020. Also a lot of the "community" was listened to on BF 2042 on pulling back on teamplay design and more on a chaotic "sandbox" and the influencers egged on EA & DICE to drop BFV support.
I think its more the communities fault tbh, Battlefield fans are notorious for not knowing what they want and then they got all pissy when the first trailer came out and complained about immersion and all that because a woman with prosthetics was in a multi-player battle. The community should have just got over themselves and tried the game rather than being so preoccupied with the costumes of their soldiers.
@@ChandranPrema123 I think people throw that around a lot for new games. I wouldn't say dlc. Id just say unfinished and made too many sacrifices for 128 players. 64 was good.
IMO, I don’t wanna play portal just to experience the old games, if I wanted to do that, I would rather go play the actual battlefield 3, I bought 2042 primarily for 2042, and I really hope that this game turns out to be one of the best in the series
@@rafifafkaralhafizh787 I've always enjoyed bf5 sincethe day it came out. Pre-orderd it and i absolutelydo kot regret it, I never understood the hate for it.
Yep BFV movement and gunplay after they stopped fucking with it was near perfect, DICE said they would build on BFV movement and when playing the beta it ft like they completely scrapped it
I hate everything about 2042, all they had to do was take the movement, gunplay from Bfv and make a modern battlefield with classes. BOOM it would be a classic
@@fim1344 Poor?? Wtf man?? I got low-end pc with rtx 3090 and i9 10900k with samsung g9 and i'm planning to change to i9 12900k and G9 Neo mate Yeah maybe i'm so poor man :))
Portal is terrible it has the same boring stale elements from the base game - subpar gunplay/movement/audio/physics etc... If you want to play the old maps they're much more fun on the older games.. I don't know how they managed to mess this one up..
all because the trailer had 30 seconds of a woman who wasn't even in the game...like it was just the ww2 version of bf1....almost the same in all ways....but then fans got too cocky, when you don't appreciate the good things you tend to regret losing them
@@Dangerman-zg3ui At this point I don't think they base it on anything. Every game seems to just reinvent everything instead of just working off of what works.
I played waaay to much BF2 I had 30k more kills than deaths because it was honestly only shooter I played because it's like they perfected the formula... But now battlefield is turning into a trash average shooter.
After 30 hours in early access the only feeling I have now is disappointment... I played BF1 again for a month before 2042 launched and it's just so evident how fun Battlefield was when they knew what worked and didn't. Personally I don't enjoy the chaos of 128 players, way too many AA missiles and Sundance grenades but it's the lack of destructable environments that does it for me with 2042. I sincerely hope my money doesn't go to waste and that DICE will make 2042 better ASAP.
A shame isn't it. And if I'd have known doubling the player count would have resulted in other aspects of the game being worse or not being significantly better than previous Battlefields I wouldn't have wanted the player count to increase.
Yes. I would much rather have them focus on 64 players with increased details in other areas not only it's more fun it's more balanced that way and they don't have to make pointless huge maps with filler plain terrains with little to no cover.. I feel exposed at all times no matter how well I try to stay in cover someone will always get to you due to large player counts.. bf1 and bfv maps are so much superior in every way so the flow of the game is much batter and action packed at all times.. guess I will be playing them for a long time so will many other people
DICE is too far invested in removing the specialists having every single gadget available. They really thought the whole 'everyone's an absolute hero' model would work. Can't get into any chopper or plane without 15 sundance nades and 6 handheld AAs targeting you.
I dreamed about 128 players destroying scyxrapers Fellini down and huge pieces Fellini off from them to the ground etc. So sad there are basically nothing like this
I honestly expected them to reuse a lot of assets from bfv especially with the guns since it’s understandable and makes sense since both 1942 and bfv take place at the same time
@@ppcalpha1042 They need to read all these comments and return to develop it, I mean development didn't stop because the community wasn't hungry for it we were very hungry and the pacific content demonstrated that Dice could hit the jackpot, although not as good as halvoy that map was amazing pity it didn't make it into some kind of gamemode in the main game.
For me battlefield 2042 just doesnt feel like a battlefield anymore. I cant put the finger on it but its just so different than its predecessors. I was never to hyped for a new battlefield and followed every trailer + interviews etc but so far Im disappointed. I really hope dice works on all the bugs, gameplay and all those beautiful details we've seen in BF5.
It's surprising how DICE put so much effort into a game that flopped hard and now it's like they're too scared to go all in despite choosing a setting that people would definitely enjoy. Disappointed that they still decided to release the game as it is instead of pushing it back
Suprised to hear Cyperpunk taught you the lesson to wait when for me it was stuff like Anthem and Fallout 76 and even then I learned better after Battlefield 4 and Halo MCC. just that the first 2 were the homerun nails of keeping expectations for me.
@@TheRealPots You didn't have to burn yourself by buying it. The internet puts up enough evidence of a game's state to not warrant yourself having a personal experience.
@@AndySolid007 Preorder was never a feature, it was a goodwill and gratitude that customer put into a company for releasing good quality product over the years. However, corporate realises they can proliferate from this feature and they start to abuse it by giving free " extra " skins and early access bonus while at the same time releasing unfinished products for these loyal customers to test for them.
Even BF1 was hella impressive. Sometimes 2042 looks great but sometimes it’s very underwhelming, depending on the map and sometimes even which part of the maps
When i look at BF 2042 i get this Call of duty feeling. Graphics and playstyle just doesn't look like the good old Battlefield :/ BF V graphics/details also looks better
@@negsterarchive7911 Ye. Sadly they're copying Call of duty and other games instead of sticking to their own thing. There was a reason we played Battlefield instead of CoD but now they're screwing it up. I'd give 2042 a chance but the specialists just keeps me away, the fast that you have unlimited hook is just ridicolous.
@@badderen92 "BF copying Cod" lol I heard that a thousand times since the release of BF 3 in 2011. It's funny that every new release is always copying cod.
@@renaicirculation4143 Guess you have never played Battlefield before :) And i never heard any1 say BF3 and BF4 was copy of cod, they have nothing there xD
Tip- cover some of the vehicle collisions like planes. Battlefield has a history of vehicles blowing up and bouncing when hitting terrain. Does 2042 do this better?
Watched a guy giving his review on the game and he was flying one of the jets. Literally flew straight into a building top speed and just bounced off and flew the other way lmfao
@@Nan01987 It wont be fixed by then, no battlefield in the past has been fixed that fast. Lets also not forget most of the devs that worked on past battlefields are gone, leaving a new team of devs with less experience with the franchise and the frostbite engine. They had 3 years with 4 dev teams working on this game and it still released like this, keep your expectations low and you wont be disappointed. Keeping them high will only make you frustrated.
Love how the sniper rifle in 2042 has an added crack/bang sound after being fired vs BFV which sounds like a steady bang fading out. Goes for most of the guns I notice.
Coming from someone, who really only got into bf heavily as of bf1 and V. I really feel like the quality of gameplay, realism and emulation is much lower in 2042
I really hope they add content from Battlefield 1 and 5, yeah 5 had it´s problems, but man do i enjoy those maps and weapons they have. the Argonne Forest was one of my favorite maps from 1 and pretty much all the Pacific maps from 5.
Every battlefield game has impressed me graphically until 2042. And now we know why this game is such a slap in the face to BF fans, the game was originally going to be a Battle Royale until they realized that was a bad idea. EA is so out of touch.
When I want to be entertained, I watch Angry Joe, AVGN, etc. When I want to be informed and entertained, TH-camrs like Nick prove their worth, that they’re just as valuable as the really hilarious ones.
BFV in its current state, in my opinion is the most solid Battlefield experience you can get ATM. I never played it before the launch of 2042, but I played around ~6K hours of previous Battlefield titles and I can really say that BFV is fantastic gameplay wise. Glad to jump into it after it lost support. 2042 isn't even Battlefield.
@@gamingeuphoria7928 thats such an old excuse at this point. BFV at this point had become very promising and well liked, bf2042 at this point is absolute trash and already dead. Literally has less players than bfv already
@@dopaminedreams1122 well no one owns next Gen consoles and 2042 is a next Gen game downgraded on last gen so no wonder bfv has more players.. 90% of people play on last gen and bf 2042 is trash on last gen sooooooooooo
BFV definitly looks and feels better. BF2042 graphics and animations are weird. They feel off and not polished. Texture is too flat and seems like alpha graphics or something. They definately needed more time to finish the game.
@@damn6039 The menus weren't responsive, people kept getting killed around corners, vehicles kept glitching out and not letting you get in them, servers were fucked with constant rubberbanding, blind admiration before the game even launched and led to unnecessary disappointment from expecting too much, complained about not enough content at launch, ghost bullets, getting stuck running in place because of invisible walls, inability to spawn on squads when you should be able to, people thought tanks were overpowered, class level system was bugged, people would spawn in without weapons and have to die to get them back, complaints about challenge menu accessibility, complaints about the leveling and weapon unlock system, complaints about not enough weapons or customization at launch, did not like the RNG for unlocking skins, people wanted soldier customization. These are all quoted from people who played at launch. So no, not everyone loved the game at launch and future battlefield games will continue to have launch issues.
I have an idea for comparison. Battlefield 3 or 4 vs modern fps games. I played BF 3 and for me the graphics still look very good and the destruction of the environment as in that game is still not visible in many titles today.
Probably wont, im guessing that vietnam is the next place battlefield goes, so for them to include it in portal would be like shooting yourself in the foot.
Bfv was a dissapointment for me after BF1, but I do not understand how a game on schedule and multiple veteran studios working on it can be outplayed by a older game like BFV in many technical areas.
I disagree, especially when what you're looking at is a small bit of essentially bonus or custom-game content slapped together in a minute. That's to be expected. You aren't meant to go to 2042 to get the ultimate BF WWII experience.
I mean I think something to keep in mind that this is Battlefield 1942 and not 5 in portal, so I think sound design wise they went for more of a remastered classic approach (I think they should’ve just recycled weapons/sounds and animations from 5 like they did with the German soldier models but I digress.)
BFV is definitely more fun. You could play anyway you wanted and love it whereas 2042 doesn't feel like that imo. The maps are also vehicle based whereas BFV, it's a nice mix for infantry and vehicles.
What people often don't realise is that these graphical cut backs are to try support the 128 player mode which is very demanding and to be honest, Frostbite isn't really cut out for it.
Thank heavens for TH-camrs like you who describe and discuss the flaws, drawbacks And merits of both games you’re comparing. Even the latest one that everybody’s pissed about at the time…😏
I personally don't think they should have doubled the player count. It just adds too many downsides without really adding that much benefit, you just get shot more from random directions and have to deal with more people tightly clustered together now
Apart from the obvious and glaring issues that the BF2042 launch brought on us -- All the bug fixes and patches won't solve the core design issue BF2042 has. From gameplay to a technical standpoint. You can tell this game was halfway made, scrapped, and repurposed. It is just a bit of everything, without becoming anything. What I've always loved about Battlefield games, apart from the crazy gameplay and teamwork, is the SOUND. DICE always delivered on great sound. It felt heavy and got you so damn immersed. A plane flew over your head you almost ducked IRL. That is ENTIRELY GONE IN BF2042! The sound is so bad. Some weapons and explosions sounds like they're taken from like a stock sound archive. I won't uninstall BF2042...yet but I am seriously considering jumping back into BFV, at least there was usually solid teamplay there. BF4 I've played too much and honestly, while fun, it's just showing too much of it's age + the weird netcode. BFV it is.
Why would EA spend time and money finishing and updating BF2042 when they know they can make just as much money selling unfinished garbage to gullible losers?
Despite its issues the sound design and graphics of bf5 are amazing. Don't have 2042 yet but it doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. But I will get it once they optimize PC playability... If people with 3090s get 100fps, I'm screwed with my setup
I’m glad you mentioned the player count increases but you can’t forget the sheer size of the maps as well which adds a lot more assests that make it more difficult to do those things as well. However I wish they still stuck with some of the small details over other things more
If I'd have known doubling the player count would have resulted in other aspects of the game being worse or not being significantly better than previous Battlefields I wouldn't have wanted the player count to increase.
As games become better and better, it becames harder to improve upon them. You cant always improve upon something thats already good. Thats what happened here i guess: they just couldnt.
The ricochet mechanic in bf5 was so overlooked. I knew how to angle my armour and I could easily take on 3 Sherman’s at once and I was hoping it would be in portal but unfortunately nah.
The way I see it, in order to create a game that could accumulate 128 players, some major sacrifices had to be made. It sucks, but I’m hoping it was just a case of it being necessary.
Having 128 players hurt the game more than it benefitted it, I hoped they would make 64 player maps a different experience where all these sacrifices wouldn't have to be made including destruction but we only got same maps/physics but smaller
I just have to give some respect to how much time you put into these videos, like I can’t imagine how long it takes to complete these projects and as a person who has sat down a couple times to see how editing works, I have only a small fraction of the feeling of how hard it is to edit for hours on end 🙏🏽
I loved battlefield V, this new 2042 is awesome but that change on the classes is a huge miss for me🥺😔 is not what battlefield is about... i bought it nonetheless 😛
I loved 5 also even though I really started late. Like super late. But there are just to many people and vehicles on the maps in the new one. 5 felt balanced and pace was good. 2042 is beyond bf chaotic to the point of aggravation.
@@georgiamann06 I had it when it launched, it had it's bugs but i enjoyed a lot, even on a base ps4, I've been playing a lot now on ps5 and it's amazing. I will miss a lot the way squads works on BFV now with BF2042
Aside from the obvious lack of authenticity for a ww2 game, Battlefield V was actually a good game. A lot of missed opportunities to be greater, but 2042 is just an utter disappointment.
Lol this community is laughable. Literally called this before 2042 released. BfV was so hated on that when the new bf releases everyone is going to go back to bf5 saying it’s the last good battlefield. Predictable.
@@user-xg6tv5hl6s Creating a second world war game without mentionning the nazis (the word is even sensored) and putting instead female soldiers just ruined the 2WW dark and historic feel. The atmosphere was much better in games like CoD World at War or Battlefield 1942. Yes the graphics looked good, yes the gameplay was nice but overall it was certainly not a masterpiece.
The sound in bf5 is hands-down, better. Specifically the weapons echo. I shoot a lot of weapons and that echo, under certain geographical conditions, make the guns sound so much more realistic. That echoing crack, ive only heard in a few games and for me personally, makes the game so much more immersive
the first year after BFV launch was bad,strange ww2 background,strange uniform,lack of maps ,bugs.. but after the release of pacific war dlc it plays like solid battlefield game and loads of fun.
This is why I dislike when people don't realize how important it is not to rush game developers, by giving them much more time, you get many more details and qualities rushed games don't have.
Forgive me if someone already said this, the lighting outline so from the DLSS setting. I usually opt to disable it because of graphical issues it creates. Not show stoppers but I can’t unsee them.
It's such a minute detail but the snow, blood and mud gathering on the weapon models in BFV adds a lot to the immersion and grittiness. Wish more games did that.
Yeah, and like the animations from bfv look a bit better
for sure they will patch it as it can be added to the engine
@@worm9986 yes but portal animations are not made by DICE
@@thewicht7291 it already is in the base game, even with sand and it looks really good (on vehicles, weapons etc…)
It’s just not in portal
@@melcorchancla9431 is that portal splits the ortho in graphics I imagined and if you put a little more detail the bf2042 is at another graphic level and it is already noticeable in the maps and in all xd
"Look at all the things we did so right in previous games, let's not repeat them."
They did it so our and their computers won't explode by managing 128 players and all of the effects at once.
@Who cares 123 Yet you need effects like snow blowing on the ground?
It's a little sad to see details becoming less on BF2042 however I'd take 128 players any day over snow blowing on the ground.
@Who cares 123 yea, didn't say we needed it. it's a cool feature but it'd like more details instead.
@Who cares 123 That's actually against the general consensus.
The maps are actually too big for people having 64 players would make the maps seem minute in scale , 128 player option was the right thing to do.
I rather take all out Warfare over goddamn slow blowing.
Battlefield franchise in a nutshell
BFV echoes sounds wider and feels like it's produced by "loud af gunshot" while 2042 feels like it's narrower and not as much impact/crackle to the echoes.
Bf4 is the same way
Bf2042 guns sound like cod games noises (except mw2019)
That tiger shooting in 2042 sounds awesome though.
@@cyrushansen5378 no It sounds way worse the sound itself lasts a good 3 seconds less and there is barely any smoke or fire coming from the barrel
For the hand guns, yes. But the explonsions and other "heavy effects" such an cannon fire seem way more impactful in 2042 imo.
I was hoping he'd talk about the animations, because OOF they're a massive downgrade.
Agree
Definitely
@TH-cam sucks because theyre removing dislikes
BF 2042 Animations after BF5 feels like weird animations in the game "Enlisted" xD
You are gona get cancelled
1942 portal is just BFV RTX OFF
Idk why, but in terms of design and esthetics i prefer BFV by a lot. Even the sounds and reloads are better in my opinion.
yep , apart from 128 players , BF V current condition is way better graphics , sound , physics , displacement & moving styles than 2042 (even without RT).
I agree. I feel like battlefield 2042 is an older game.
i thought everyone hates bv5? lol you guys cant make up your minds :P
@@FusionC6 you do know people can like and dislike different aspects of a game right?
@@FusionC6 bf2042 makes bfv look like a masterpiece
I honestly dont know how its physically possible that battlefield 1, a game from 2016, looks and plays 100x better. They got a bigger studio, started development early, only multiplayer game. Can someone explain how its possible because it literally should be impossible
The devs that made BF1 and BF-V , no longer work in the company. That's why, because a company doesn't know how to keep their best devs...
@@lq6o ahhh makes sense. I thought it was the same devs + new ones.
Dice is garbage
@@lq6o Who left?
@@juuglord8509 The a lot hated Patrick Söderlund and a lot of the good devs from his team to make a new studio - "Embark Studio".
The small things that were included in bf5 were a nice touch that seems to be missing from 2042. Things like your character whimpering in fear when a grenade landed next to you, and the barrel change out using the spent brass ECT. They brought a bit of life to your soldier, instead of them feeling like emotionless drones like most other fps games usually have. I hope we see more of that added to this latest installment. They have a little bit of it at the moment.
Don't know why they removed it. BF1 had these small features that made the game atmospheric but it went all downhill after that.
@@ls200076 it went downhill after bf5
@@ls200076 they removed it because of all the hate is got
Why do we do this every battlefield. All I heard during the lifecycle of bfv was how HORRIBLE the game was and now that there’s a new one I’ve started hearing great things about bfv. We do this every time!
@@LegendInThaMakin It is because it is not as bad as 2042. That is why.
I think that it´s commonly agreed in the Battlefield community that staying at the 64 player count would have been much preferred due to sacrifice in visual quality, map design and overall game flow.
Yes! I don’t understand the obsession with having more and more players. Maybe it’s for marketing purposes? You know, “large scale” and all
I still feel map design and game flow can be good with 128 players. They just need better maps
@@thehiddenone470 yeah rockstar is the best, I just love how they keep releasing gta v and milking it, also I love how boring rdr2 online is and lets not forget about how finished the gta remastered trilogy was. Yeah Rockstar is indeed the best...
Sarcasm
@@AndreasRP. rockstar arent helping themselves at the moment
@@thehiddenone470 lmao no rdr2 online didn’t do better than gta online at any point.
I just realised what BfV could have been if they had listened to the community and put more love into it
Just now?! Wtf
The pacific update gave it hope. It was going great but then EA said nope, shut it down and go do half-assed 2042
@@ruok3351 yeah they were going to do much more like d day maps but ea pulled the plug and make 2042 and I am 100% sure they should have just stuck with battlefield 5
The BFV MP Producer tried to but was overuled a lot (like TTK update) and EA cut back on support and then left January 2020. Also a lot of the "community" was listened to on BF 2042 on pulling back on teamplay design and more on a chaotic "sandbox" and the influencers egged on EA & DICE to drop BFV support.
I think its more the communities fault tbh, Battlefield fans are notorious for not knowing what they want and then they got all pissy when the first trailer came out and complained about immersion and all that because a woman with prosthetics was in a multi-player battle. The community should have just got over themselves and tried the game rather than being so preoccupied with the costumes of their soldiers.
Seems like the best things about the new game is including the old games.
BF2042 is just a Crappy Unfinished DLC for Portal
@@ChandranPrema123 I think people throw that around a lot for new games. I wouldn't say dlc. Id just say unfinished and made too many sacrifices for 128 players. 64 was good.
IMO, I don’t wanna play portal just to experience the old games, if I wanted to do that, I would rather go play the actual battlefield 3, I bought 2042 primarily for 2042, and I really hope that this game turns out to be one of the best in the series
Portal seems like a last minute rushed addition to help justify the new $70 price tag along side the already rushed 2042.
@@sebastianhernandez1667 it could be. Games are almost never great at launch anymore.
I don't care what anyone says, bf5 was awesome as hell! 2000+ hours and still adding. 2042 still needs to show me something that's worth playing.
There’s probably someone out there with the same opinion of 2042. Play what you feel I say.
I hope its a total of 2042 hours you have in bf 5...
All the modern games always had this. at first they hate the game but when a new game released, they started to like the old game
@@rafifafkaralhafizh787 I've always enjoyed bf5 sincethe day it came out. Pre-orderd it and i absolutelydo kot regret it, I never understood the hate for it.
@@turdgoblin6113 i guess it due to the trailer
i can't beleive it but bf v feels so much better gameplay wise more fluid and not just because of the perfomance
Yep BFV movement and gunplay after they stopped fucking with it was near perfect, DICE said they would build on BFV movement and when playing the beta it ft like they completely scrapped it
I hate everything about 2042, all they had to do was take the movement, gunplay from Bfv and make a modern battlefield with classes. BOOM it would be a classic
@@FRDOMFGTHR really sad knowing most of the old dice staff members are gone i don't see a bright future for 2042 hell even for the franchise :/
i mean, they changed a lot of stuff with BFV since launch so who knows whats gonna happen with 2042
@@thepizzaelf This, and so much this!
Sad to see that Battlefield 5 was one of the first video games to push the envelope of RTX Reflection.But now it's gone😭
Nah man!! RTX shadow or reflection or anything else except DLSS are bad ideas
Those things took too much fps
I mean ifnyou wanna play 5 sne dme your name ill play, I really enjoyed 5 even though I came in late.
@@gamerdream7465 That's why you use DLSS with them
@@gamerdream7465 Tell me you’re poor and have a low end PC without telling me you’re poor and have a low end PC
@@fim1344 Poor?? Wtf man??
I got low-end pc with rtx 3090 and i9 10900k with samsung g9 and i'm planning to change to i9 12900k and G9 Neo mate
Yeah maybe i'm so poor man :))
The game seems like a step back in every possible way, except for portal mode and 128 player maps
Portal is also terrible
Portal is terrible it has the same boring stale elements from the base game - subpar gunplay/movement/audio/physics etc... If you want to play the old maps they're much more fun on the older games.. I don't know how they managed to mess this one up..
The maps aren’t just big they are fucking terrible, some of the worst designed maps in the franchise all packed into one game
@@user-exuytv it's great wdym
@@zakquinn5420 ...you can literally change the gunplay and movement...also the audio is amazing
Crazy how BFV is almost superior in every way including gameplay for how much flack it got, definitely going to be sticking with it.
all because the trailer had 30 seconds of a woman who wasn't even in the game...like it was just the ww2 version of bf1....almost the same in all ways....but then fans got too cocky, when you don't appreciate the good things you tend to regret losing them
I believe the hate was mostly from marketing and cosmetics. I loved the movement and gun play personally, and the details made me happy.
Hi, Nick, are you going to make GTA trilogy comparison?
Waiting on this
Cant wait for it
Please no🤣
He did mention he's gonna do it but will be a bit because of the Battlefield documentary and he just can't get it at the moment.
Rain BAD!!!
I don't know why they always forget maps from Battlefield 2. It had the best maps in my opinion.
And the best teamplay mechanics that where sadly never built upon, ugh I loath when BC2 became the "Base" for BF when it came out.
@@Dangerman-zg3ui At this point I don't think they base it on anything. Every game seems to just reinvent everything instead of just working off of what works.
Agreed. BF2 was great
I played waaay to much BF2 I had 30k more kills than deaths because it was honestly only shooter I played because it's like they perfected the formula... But now battlefield is turning into a trash average shooter.
@@masc2fighter Thank god we have games like Squad and HLL that build off of mods like Project Reality for BF2.
After 30 hours in early access the only feeling I have now is disappointment... I played BF1 again for a month before 2042 launched and it's just so evident how fun Battlefield was when they knew what worked and didn't. Personally I don't enjoy the chaos of 128 players, way too many AA missiles and Sundance grenades but it's the lack of destructable environments that does it for me with 2042. I sincerely hope my money doesn't go to waste and that DICE will make 2042 better ASAP.
A shame isn't it. And if I'd have known doubling the player count would have resulted in other aspects of the game being worse or not being significantly better than previous Battlefields I wouldn't have wanted the player count to increase.
Yes. I would much rather have them focus on 64 players with increased details in other areas not only it's more fun it's more balanced that way and they don't have to make pointless huge maps with filler plain terrains with little to no cover.. I feel exposed at all times no matter how well I try to stay in cover someone will always get to you due to large player counts.. bf1 and bfv maps are so much superior in every way so the flow of the game is much batter and action packed at all times.. guess I will be playing them for a long time so will many other people
DICE is too far invested in removing the specialists having every single gadget available. They really thought the whole 'everyone's an absolute hero' model would work. Can't get into any chopper or plane without 15 sundance nades and 6 handheld AAs targeting you.
I dreamed about 128 players destroying scyxrapers Fellini down and huge pieces Fellini off from them to the ground etc. So sad there are basically nothing like this
Right now the game isn't that good but it has alot of potential in the future
It looks like a completely different dev team made the games. It’s so weird. 2042 plays like a game from 10 years ago.
it's because it is a completely different dev team, most of the ones that worked on bfv and bf1 left and joined embark studios
I honestly expected them to reuse a lot of assets from bfv especially with the guns since it’s understandable and makes sense since both 1942 and bfv take place at the same time
We always appreciate your effort nick
Maybe it's because I only started playing 2 years after release, but I personally love BF V. I am sad that 2042 somehow pretends that V never existed.
same. if i could play bf V forever and they just updated it with new maps, id be very happy. it’s so sick
@@ppcalpha1042 They need to read all these comments and return to develop it, I mean development didn't stop because the community wasn't hungry for it we were very hungry and the pacific content demonstrated that Dice could hit the jackpot, although not as good as halvoy that map was amazing pity it didn't make it into some kind of gamemode in the main game.
For me battlefield 2042 just doesnt feel like a battlefield anymore. I cant put the finger on it but its just so different than its predecessors. I was never to hyped for a new battlefield and followed every trailer + interviews etc but so far Im disappointed. I really hope dice works on all the bugs, gameplay and all those beautiful details we've seen in BF5.
It's not, it's just a mw rip off now for full price when you are only getting 1/4 of a game
Most experienced devs left in 2018 as the old CEO created Embark studios after leaving.
A lot of the Devs at Dice are new
It’s literally just a cheap MW copy.
@@PetalsFourArmor doesn’t feel anything like MW…
@@PetalsFourArmor Don't know why you'd compare the two, MW is nothing like this and is an actual good game lol
It's surprising how DICE put so much effort into a game that flopped hard and now it's like they're too scared to go all in despite choosing a setting that people would definitely enjoy. Disappointed that they still decided to release the game as it is instead of pushing it back
Thankfully I didnt pre order this.. cyberpunk taught me a lesson... If the game goes on sale and gets a ton of fixes ill buy it, otherwise im good..
Suprised to hear Cyperpunk taught you the lesson to wait when for me it was stuff like Anthem and Fallout 76 and even then I learned better after Battlefield 4 and Halo MCC. just that the first 2 were the homerun nails of keeping expectations for me.
@@jasonx1174 well i never bought fallout or anthem so i guess it took longer for me to get burned
@@TheRealPots You didn't have to burn yourself by buying it. The internet puts up enough evidence of a game's state to not warrant yourself having a personal experience.
@@jasonx1174 I really don't get the point of pre ordering games, like please explain the purpose of it?
@@AndySolid007 Preorder was never a feature, it was a goodwill and gratitude that customer put into a company for releasing good quality product over the years. However, corporate realises they can proliferate from this feature and they start to abuse it by giving free " extra " skins and early access bonus while at the same time releasing unfinished products for these loyal customers to test for them.
BF5 looks way more next gen to me, I don’t know why though it’s something about the fabric and snow.
Even BF1 was hella impressive. Sometimes 2042 looks great but sometimes it’s very underwhelming, depending on the map and sometimes even which part of the maps
@@rios39 Agreed
What a great end to Friday. Been waiting this for too long. Thanks Nick.
When i look at BF 2042 i get this Call of duty feeling. Graphics and playstyle just doesn't look like the good old Battlefield :/ BF V graphics/details also looks better
reflected in specialists too, appealing to cod masses
@@negsterarchive7911 Ye. Sadly they're copying Call of duty and other games instead of sticking to their own thing. There was a reason we played Battlefield instead of CoD but now they're screwing it up. I'd give 2042 a chance but the specialists just keeps me away, the fast that you have unlimited hook is just ridicolous.
@@badderen92 "BF copying Cod" lol I heard that a thousand times since the release of BF 3 in 2011. It's funny that every new release is always copying cod.
@@renaicirculation4143 Guess you have never played Battlefield before :) And i never heard any1 say BF3 and BF4 was copy of cod, they have nothing there xD
It feels like a Ubisoft game
"dont worry, its 50 years old beta build, release will be next gen masterpiece" they said ...
Bro, when are you going to do Forza Horizon 5 VS 4 direct comparison?
Tip- cover some of the vehicle collisions like planes. Battlefield has a history of vehicles blowing up and bouncing when hitting terrain. Does 2042 do this better?
No, the higher player count makes it noticeable (I can't compare it to the others because I haven't played them in a while)
Not sure about terrain, but saw a clip of someone who hits his plane like 7 times in a row into skyscrapers before it explodes.
Not really. Crashing into walls in jeeps can now blow them up, but as usual it's buggy and inconsistent. And frankly irritating.
Watched a guy giving his review on the game and he was flying one of the jets. Literally flew straight into a building top speed and just bounced off and flew the other way lmfao
Now people are realising how much of a masterpiece BFV is… hypocrites
For real. Too many people listened to the outrage mob instead of trying the game for themselves.
masterpeice is a stretch, but it was underrated thats for sure
Even with November 19th release date, it still needs a lot of work. Probably had to delay to December or early 2022
It's EA they wouldn't allow that, but I have faith it will be fixed by then.
Yeah, a huge fix
@@Nan01987 It wont be fixed by then, no battlefield in the past has been fixed that fast. Lets also not forget most of the devs that worked on past battlefields are gone, leaving a new team of devs with less experience with the franchise and the frostbite engine. They had 3 years with 4 dev teams working on this game and it still released like this, keep your expectations low and you wont be disappointed. Keeping them high will only make you frustrated.
Nicholas. We need you. It’s been too long. I miss direct comparison videos. :(
BFV truly was a gorgeous game. Even after hours of playing I remember being amazed by the lighting and weather effects.
The fact that 2042 makes even BFV look like a decent game just shows how the bar just keeps getting lower and lower and lower
Love how the sniper rifle in 2042 has an added crack/bang sound after being fired vs BFV which sounds like a steady bang fading out. Goes for most of the guns I notice.
I noticed it some but I like the cannon sound on the tiger and the engine. That cannon sounded powerful and the engine has a nice sound to it
U need to turn on war tapes in sound settings the best audio setting on any video game
I'D be fine with these graphical downgrades, if the game would actually run smoothly and not be extremely laggy.
exactly
Coming from someone, who really only got into bf heavily as of bf1 and V. I really feel like the quality of gameplay, realism and emulation is much lower in 2042
You say that as if BFV was even slightly realistic... Graphically yes, historically and gameplay wise however, couldnt be further from 'realism'...
Sorry but I can't unhear Kermit the frog😭
I really hope they add content from Battlefield 1 and 5, yeah 5 had it´s problems, but man do i enjoy those maps and weapons they have. the Argonne Forest was one of my favorite maps from 1 and pretty much all the Pacific maps from 5.
They probably won't bc then the downgrade will be even more noticeable 😉😂
@@joellouisfire maybe, but only time will tell i guess
5 has the best gameplay in the series
Oh yeah, I'm also quite shocked there isn't content from BF4 also, like really?
@@Lizardman1997 prob because they don't want to include china
Every battlefield game has impressed me graphically until 2042. And now we know why this game is such a slap in the face to BF fans, the game was originally going to be a Battle Royale until they realized that was a bad idea. EA is so out of touch.
When I want to be entertained, I watch Angry Joe, AVGN, etc.
When I want to be informed and entertained, TH-camrs like Nick prove their worth, that they’re just as valuable as the really hilarious ones.
BFV in its current state, in my opinion is the most solid Battlefield experience you can get ATM. I never played it before the launch of 2042, but I played around ~6K hours of previous Battlefield titles and I can really say that BFV is fantastic gameplay wise. Glad to jump into it after it lost support. 2042 isn't even Battlefield.
2042 is worse than Hardline, and many people said that was the worst BF game.
Lmaoo and yall were shitting on it at launch... fucking imbeciles
@@gamingeuphoria7928 i wasn’t lmao
@@gamingeuphoria7928 thats such an old excuse at this point. BFV at this point had become very promising and well liked, bf2042 at this point is absolute trash and already dead. Literally has less players than bfv already
@@dopaminedreams1122 well no one owns next Gen consoles and 2042 is a next Gen game downgraded on last gen so no wonder bfv has more players.. 90% of people play on last gen and bf 2042 is trash on last gen sooooooooooo
BFV definitly looks and feels better. BF2042 graphics and animations are weird. They feel off and not polished. Texture is too flat and seems like alpha graphics or something. They definately needed more time to finish the game.
exactly.
Yess been waiting for this comparison!
Such a shame considering the hype 2042 had leading up to the beta.
This has been said for almost every game they've launched, thought people would have figured this out by now.
@@Asylus bruh bf1 had hype and everyone loved it when it launched
@@damn6039 not everyone loved it at launch, I don't know where the hell you heard that.
@@damn6039 The menus weren't responsive, people kept getting killed around corners, vehicles kept glitching out and not letting you get in them, servers were fucked with constant rubberbanding, blind admiration before the game even launched and led to unnecessary disappointment from expecting too much, complained about not enough content at launch, ghost bullets, getting stuck running in place because of invisible walls, inability to spawn on squads when you should be able to, people thought tanks were overpowered, class level system was bugged, people would spawn in without weapons and have to die to get them back, complaints about challenge menu accessibility, complaints about the leveling and weapon unlock system, complaints about not enough weapons or customization at launch, did not like the RNG for unlocking skins, people wanted soldier customization. These are all quoted from people who played at launch. So no, not everyone loved the game at launch and future battlefield games will continue to have launch issues.
I have an idea for comparison.
Battlefield 3 or 4 vs modern fps games.
I played BF 3 and for me the graphics still look very good and the destruction of the environment as in that game is still not visible in many titles today.
Finally the video I was waiting for. I hope portal brings vietnam to it, then I would definetly buy this game
I would love battlefield Vietnam in portal
Same
Probably wont, im guessing that vietnam is the next place battlefield goes, so for them to include it in portal would be like shooting yourself in the foot.
Bfv was a dissapointment for me after BF1, but I do not understand how a game on schedule and multiple veteran studios working on it can be outplayed by a older game like BFV in many technical areas.
It's honestly absolutely ridiculous that a game made for next gen consoles is behind bfv made for last gen
I disagree, especially when what you're looking at is a small bit of essentially bonus or custom-game content slapped together in a minute.
That's to be expected. You aren't meant to go to 2042 to get the ultimate BF WWII experience.
The graphics of 2042 are so much worse, it should not have shipped the way it did
Seems like BF2042 doesn't have the echo present in BF5 for sound design...
new game launches
nick930 : finally i can make some vids
but this was very entertaining vid keep up the good work
Finally was waiting for this
Please do forza horizon 4 vs 5
You couldn't sell me this game for 12% of the price - let alone 12% off the actual price
I mean I think something to keep in mind that this is Battlefield 1942 and not 5 in portal, so I think sound design wise they went for more of a remastered classic approach (I think they should’ve just recycled weapons/sounds and animations from 5 like they did with the German soldier models but I digress.)
I hope the disaster of BF2042 helps people realize that BF5 was never bad, it just had bad marketing but the game itself is incredible right now.
BFV is definitely more fun. You could play anyway you wanted and love it whereas 2042 doesn't feel like that imo. The maps are also vehicle based whereas BFV, it's a nice mix for infantry and vehicles.
What people often don't realise is that these graphical cut backs are to try support the 128 player mode which is very demanding and to be honest, Frostbite isn't really cut out for it.
Would love to see a BF2042 VS MW2019 comparison
Cod mw 2019 destroys this game
I Just noticed that your character counts your headshots in a row in bfv. I like that detail
Thank heavens for TH-camrs like you who describe and discuss the flaws, drawbacks And merits of both games you’re comparing.
Even the latest one that everybody’s pissed about at the time…😏
Why don't you have 1m subscribers yet....you deserve it
I personally don't think they should have doubled the player count. It just adds too many downsides without really adding that much benefit, you just get shot more from random directions and have to deal with more people tightly clustered together now
they've gone with 128 players purely for marketing purposes
BFV release week: “This is such a downgrade from BF1!”
BF2042 release week: “This is such a downgrade from BFV!”
How could DICE make 2042 so bad that now BFV looks good
Apart from the obvious and glaring issues that the BF2042 launch brought on us -- All the bug fixes and patches won't solve the core design issue BF2042 has. From gameplay to a technical standpoint. You can tell this game was halfway made, scrapped, and repurposed. It is just a bit of everything, without becoming anything.
What I've always loved about Battlefield games, apart from the crazy gameplay and teamwork, is the SOUND. DICE always delivered on great sound. It felt heavy and got you so damn immersed. A plane flew over your head you almost ducked IRL. That is ENTIRELY GONE IN BF2042! The sound is so bad. Some weapons and explosions sounds like they're taken from like a stock sound archive.
I won't uninstall BF2042...yet but I am seriously considering jumping back into BFV, at least there was usually solid teamplay there. BF4 I've played too much and honestly, while fun, it's just showing too much of it's age + the weird netcode. BFV it is.
Why would EA spend time and money finishing and updating BF2042 when they know they can make just as much money selling unfinished garbage to gullible losers?
Despite its issues the sound design and graphics of bf5 are amazing.
Don't have 2042 yet but it doesn't seem like much of an upgrade.
But I will get it once they optimize PC playability...
If people with 3090s get 100fps, I'm screwed with my setup
I’m glad you mentioned the player count increases but you can’t forget the sheer size of the maps as well which adds a lot more assests that make it more difficult to do those things as well. However I wish they still stuck with some of the small details over other things more
Now i wish they kept going with Battlefield V
We all do man…
@@Dreyfuss_The_Guy indeed man it sucks it lasted so shortly
I completely disagree with the shockwave "bubbles" being too much.. as someone who has witnessed large explosions, its a very nice realistic touch.
If I'd have known doubling the player count would have resulted in other aspects of the game being worse or not being significantly better than previous Battlefields I wouldn't have wanted the player count to increase.
*Timestamps*
*GreenmanGaming Ad1* : 00:03
*Weapon Models* : 1:19
*Environment* : 2:49
*Lighting* : 5:39
*Effects* : 7:47
*Sound Design* : 10:49
*Conclusion* : 13:42
*GreenmanGaming Ad2* : 14:53
*Battlefield Documentary* : 15:39
You* forgot the effects section after lighting, but otherwise - nice
@@Nick930 fixed it
A new release should blow the predecessor into pieces in terms of EVERYTHING.
That’s not the case with most things, Isn’t it?
@@hhyperxuserxd2680 Sadly not with games, if you buy Hardware (Tv, Pc, Phones) it is still true, except for Apple
Especially when it's next gen
@@EnglishPete Not only for Apple hahahaha
As games become better and better, it becames harder to improve upon them.
You cant always improve upon something thats already good. Thats what happened here i guess: they just couldnt.
It's weird how infantry gun sounds feel so muted, yet the 2042 Tiger tanks main gun sounds better.
Nick930: “Do you prefer Battlefield 2042 or do you prefer Battlefield V?”
Me: Battlefield 4
Also great video summary of the game. (As always)
4 was the best.
V and 2042 are really fun too
4 and Hardline were the worst Battlefield games since Bad Company 2.
@@BaNgInHeAdS 4?
@@BaNgInHeAdS I agree that Hardline was pretty terrible but I respectfully disagree with your opinion on BF4
The ricochet mechanic in bf5 was so overlooked. I knew how to angle my armour and I could easily take on 3 Sherman’s at once and I was hoping it would be in portal but unfortunately nah.
The way I see it, in order to create a game that could accumulate 128 players, some major sacrifices had to be made. It sucks, but I’m hoping it was just a case of it being necessary.
Having 128 players hurt the game more than it benefitted it, I hoped they would make 64 player maps a different experience where all these sacrifices wouldn't have to be made including destruction but we only got same maps/physics but smaller
I just have to give some respect to how much time you put into these videos, like I can’t imagine how long it takes to complete these projects and as a person who has sat down a couple times to see how editing works, I have only a small fraction of the feeling of how hard it is to edit for hours on end 🙏🏽
I loved battlefield V, this new 2042 is awesome but that change on the classes is a huge miss for me🥺😔 is not what battlefield is about... i bought it nonetheless 😛
I loved 5 also even though I really started late. Like super late. But there are just to many people and vehicles on the maps in the new one. 5 felt balanced and pace was good. 2042 is beyond bf chaotic to the point of aggravation.
@@georgiamann06 I had it when it launched, it had it's bugs but i enjoyed a lot, even on a base ps4, I've been playing a lot now on ps5 and it's amazing. I will miss a lot the way squads works on BFV now with BF2042
@@GtavoMN I agree I do miss the squad teamwork a lot.
You wrote in the description that planned release for the documentary is 12th November. Today is 19
i cant believe he said 2042 explosions looks better than BfV....he blind?
Aside from the obvious lack of authenticity for a ww2 game, Battlefield V was actually a good game. A lot of missed opportunities to be greater, but 2042 is just an utter disappointment.
fully polished battlefield 5 was a masterpiece
was a decent game*
@@MasoMathiou nah that graphics with rtx , sound design, gun handling, accurate war plane sounds was something else back in 2018
Lol this community is laughable. Literally called this before 2042 released. BfV was so hated on that when the new bf releases everyone is going to go back to bf5 saying it’s the last good battlefield. Predictable.
it was neva fully polished dont cap a lot
@@user-xg6tv5hl6s Creating a second world war game without mentionning the nazis (the word is even sensored) and putting instead female soldiers just ruined the 2WW dark and historic feel.
The atmosphere was much better in games like CoD World at War or Battlefield 1942.
Yes the graphics looked good, yes the gameplay was nice but overall it was certainly not a masterpiece.
Hi Nick. Just wondering, but are you going to be doing a direct comparison of Ark compared to Ark 2 when it comes out?
Bro didn't get any updates from you.
You doin' fine?
The sound in bf5 is hands-down, better. Specifically the weapons echo. I shoot a lot of weapons and that echo, under certain geographical conditions, make the guns sound so much more realistic. That echoing crack, ive only heard in a few games and for me personally, makes the game so much more immersive
Rdr2 is a perfect example of a game that did weapon echoes nearly perfect. Too bad the gunplay itself is horribly repetitive and bland.
Battlefield V is a masterpiece, the sound, the fx, all was perfect, but they decided to stop adding content
the first year after BFV launch was bad,strange ww2 background,strange uniform,lack of maps ,bugs.. but after the release of pacific war dlc it plays like solid battlefield game and loads of fun.
11:15 both garand pings are beautiful
I know that this comment will get a lot of dislikes: but BfV was, and IS, a masterpiece.
This is why I dislike when people don't realize how important it is not to rush game developers, by giving them much more time, you get many more details and qualities rushed games don't have.
I was waiting so long for this. Thanks!
Forgive me if someone already said this, the lighting outline so from the DLSS setting. I usually opt to disable it because of graphical issues it creates. Not show stoppers but I can’t unsee them.
It causes the water artifacts too
Summing up: 2042 is a downgrade to the already unfinished bf5
Ngl bfv is a finished game now it was just a mess at launch like 2042
Though currently 2042 is in a much better state than bfv launch
@@glockenspiel604 that's a lot of COPIUM friendo
@@ghozter1 nah just my personal experience and judgement. You should get off Twitter I think it's rotting your brain
Been waiting for this one since the 12th!
Nick u there?
exactly 128 players made them sacrifice graphics. having a CAMPAIGN with levels on rails would allow THE MOST INSANE GRAPHICS EVER!
BFV is better in every possible way.
All of the audio effects for the guns in 2042 sounds like it was recorded way farther away than in V