My Grandfather (my Dad's Father) was the lead Engineer of T&P in West Texas. When we would go visit my Grandparents in Baird, Sweetwater, and Big Springs Texas. He died of a major heart attack at work exactly 2 weeks before his retirement. He had already gotten a job as an Engineer of the train that goes around the Six Flags site in Arlington, Texas. I was always amazed when we would go visit Grandpa and Grandmother because he would work a usual 9 to 10 hour a day job. He would come home and we got to visit with him. And so many times he would get a phone call very late at night and had to get dressed and go to work. He was born in Belgium. So my father was a First Generation American which makes me a Second Generation American. I miss him and Grandmother........
I absolutely loved these Santa Fe 2-10-4s, they were huge, not as huge as the articulated frames, like the 4-8-8-4s and the yellowstones, but they were still massive, and my favourite santa fe steam locomotive.
I think the coolest feature for me is the kinematic drawbar on the tender. A nice touch especially as it was not mentioned in the feature list of this model.
Well done- some history, nice video shots, great santa fe colors. I like my mth, not lionel, black bonnet, very similar. My video to follow soon for a comparison. Gary
The Santa Fe Black Bonnet Texas is one of my favorite locomotives in my collection right now. The size and detail is just awesome, plus the three interchangeable funnels is a nice feature. But that Black Bonnet paint scheme is beautiful, now I need to find the rare Midnight Chief passenger cars.
Wow Congratulations 🎉🍾! I am with you… the paint scheme looks fantastic and yes too cool being able to swap out the smoke stacks. Looks great going at speed as well. Thanks for the review.
Hey there! Just ordered my own USSF Legacy SD70 from Legacy Station...it's on its third run! I dropped your name. Thanks for helping me spend my money. Nick
An awesome review as always Sir Eric. I currently own the Pennsy version of this Loco. Cab no. 6510. I love the Dark Brunswick green Pennsy color. The only downside is the whistle steam effect seams weak on my Loco compared to my 2 older Legacy Steam locos.
Love the 2-10-4. The Black Bonnet is very pretty. Not going to lie, I bought the KCS from the previous run because of you. It is my second favorite engine in my fleet.
Minor note about the stack options: The curved stack seen for most of the review and the straight stack with additional details were both prototypical to the ATSF. The Curved stack was designed to direct the draft and smoke from the stack back mainly for running through tunnels as this would reduce ware on the tunnel, some other railroads had deploy able stack covers like this with the most notable engine to have such a feature being the Union Pacific Heavy Challengers. The second straight stack is a ATSF collapsible stack that could be raised and lowed by the engineer, these stacks were unique to the ATSF as far as I know.
In the trains article about the Santa Fe Texas types it mentions that the Pennsylvania railroad engine Cruise preferred them over their own locomotives. Burning oil meant no cinders, and I believe they said it was smoother riding than the Pennsylvania railroad Texas types.
The black gasket on the stack is from the 3700 Northerns. I recommend buying those gaskets for the stacks because the 2 of the 3 new ones expanded from the heat and won't retake there older shape.
It’s kinda cool when you think about the fact that this engine is sort of supposed to be an advancement on the ever popular Berkshire’s. It’s pretty cool what people like me can come up with for steam engines.
You know I typically don’t like the fantasy paint schemes I usually like the more prototypical look but this engine is just beautiful. really good looking locomotive
PRR 6510 doesn't have it's headlight above it's smokebox face, it doesn't have an 8-axle coast-to-coast tender and it doesn't have the PRR's traditional modifications.
I own one of these, and it's a great engine. Unfortunately, despite having a dummy O gauge coupler, it's impossible to screw it in. The underside of the coupler binds against the cowcatcher, so the screw hole never aligns, nor is there any type of negotiation for it to swing. This flaw goes back to MTH's 2900s as well.
A trademark of Baldwin locomotives list the fact that all of the steam pipes in the cab of the locomotive were wrapped in asbestos for the safety of the crew in case of an accident they would not hit burning hot pipes. Baldwin sent detailed drawings to Santa Fe regarding the construction of the locomotives and the ALCO steam locomotive company send someone crude drawing. They knew who wanted their business. Just like all the beautiful old cars that were scrapped by patriotic Americans for the Steele drive during the war. The steam locomotive in the 1950s met the same fate perfectly usable for decades but cut up for absolutely nothing. So sad.
If i ever had a layout i want CP 5935 and CP 5931 the two remaining preserved Selkirks in my fleet In addition to 2860, 2858, 2850, 2839 and 2816 The part that gets me is I also want CN6060 but it would be the only non CP in the set haha
Dish is my favorite Santa Fe 🚂 steam locomotive. I have several copies of the issue of trains magazine which was devoted to the Santa Fe 2-10-4. I would love to buy one if it was in conventional only with no BS electronic control systems because unless you have a club size layout that you have to run by yourself then you need all the electronics. I have basically four overs with ever-increasing diameter to accommodate larger steam locomotives. I hate the fact they load up the locomotives with all these unnecessary electronics and I know you can run them and conventional but you paid for them and they go bad if you use them and they go bad if you don't. When the circuit boards in my Williams diesel locomotives go out I'm going to put rectifiers in so the AC is changed to DC for the motor. I won't have any whistle or Bell but that's okay because I don't want to listen to that every 9 second s as it goes around the layout. I don't like these goofy paint schemes. These locomotives like most of the modern steam locomotives of the times had their lives cut short because of diesel locomotives. In the steam locomotive days you worked until the day you died because you loved the job. Except it wasn't a job in the9-5 sense. It was your profession and you took pride in the job that you did. I remember a picture on the wall left over from the steam day showing the dead bodies of the locomotive crew and the bottom half of the locomotive when a Pennsylvania decapod blew up. Steam locomotive engineers we're much better than the guy who just ran diesel locomotives. A steam engineer can easily run a diesel locomotive but a diesel guy is flabbergasted trying to run a steam locomotive 🚂.I used to bump cars over the weekend with my uncle who was the purchasing agent for the Long Island railroad and yeah you check the oil level in the air starter on the alcove switcher and then you fire up the engine and you just run around three or four hours on a Sunday and you line up all the cars from Monday and then the union calls you and says that you're stealing work from the brotherhood. Those ALCO switchers had old 539 Seymour and McIntosh engines. They lasted in-service many many years even with questionable maintenance.
@@Ericstrains my house and my train room are still in shambles from the mega hurricane we had last August in Florida. When I get everything sorted out I will go through my boxes of TRAINS magazines and I will send you a copy of the August 1973 issue all about the Santa Fe Texas type steam locomotives. My Sportster is in the shop when it comes out later on this year I hope to be able to go to some train shows. In clewiston they restored a Pacific and 3 passenger cars For excursion. I cannot wait to see a real steam locomotive with a fire in her belly. The dinner train stopped coming to punta Gorda because of a lack of patronage. They could not get 200 people to sign up for a trip. With all of the rich train nuts in Florida I cannot stand this because I loved going on to dinner train 🚂🚃 just so I could support the railroad. I loved going to the railroad museum up in Parrish Florida but it got closed and went out of business because of the covid bulshit. So sad. I am so glad I videotaped my whole excursion when me and my biker buddy road up there. Just think that a model of the 2-10-4 cost half as much as the scrap value of the locomotive and the 1950s. One guy wrote an article about how he try to shave a central of New Jersey Camelback it was freshly shopped and freshly painted. They ran a few excursions but did not make enough money to save the locomotive and the foreman said it was the prettiest engine ever sent to this crap line. The guy was paying $100 a month car payment so he could not afford to buy it. You know what that locomotive would be worth now! Nice chatting about trains with you.
Well I might be able to afford one of these locomotives after all the electronics go up in smoke and the owner has a heart attack as to the cost of fixing the engine and I would just buy it and have it wired up to where it would run forward only without any bulshit features. I know a couple of people who had PS1 locomotives who did exactly that and they were much happier. It would be nice to be able to have the choice.
My Grandfather (my Dad's Father) was the lead Engineer of T&P in West Texas. When we would go visit my Grandparents in Baird, Sweetwater, and Big Springs Texas. He died of a major heart attack at work exactly 2 weeks before his retirement. He had already gotten a job as an Engineer of the train that goes around the Six Flags site in Arlington, Texas. I was always amazed when we would go visit Grandpa and Grandmother because he would work a usual 9 to 10 hour a day job. He would come home and we got to visit with him. And so many times he would get a phone call very late at night and had to get dressed and go to work. He was born in Belgium. So my father was a First Generation American which makes me a Second Generation American. I miss him and Grandmother........
Thanks for sharing!
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I absolutely loved these Santa Fe 2-10-4s, they were huge, not as huge as the articulated frames, like the 4-8-8-4s and the yellowstones, but they were still massive, and my favourite santa fe steam locomotive.
Love that new BFIMO transition! It was really smooth and clean. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for noticing!
my favorite so for the black bonnet is this number two whistle
❤😮
I remember when I did a review of this model it was such a home run! The size, details, and features really did make this locomotive.
Your content never gets old eric. Also I really like the intro and the BFIMO scenes that you got
Thanks!
@@Ericstrains your welcome
I like his hair
I think the coolest feature for me is the kinematic drawbar on the tender. A nice touch especially as it was not mentioned in the feature list of this model.
I love how you put your own diolague on the train, or atleast it sounds like it
No that’s not my dialogue. It comes with that.
@@Ericstrains oh. My bad. It sounds a lot like you
Well done- some history, nice video shots, great santa fe colors. I like my mth, not lionel, black bonnet, very similar. My video to follow soon for a comparison. Gary
The Santa Fe Black Bonnet Texas is one of my favorite locomotives in my collection right now. The size and detail is just awesome, plus the three interchangeable funnels is a nice feature. But that Black Bonnet paint scheme is beautiful, now I need to find the rare Midnight Chief passenger cars.
I love the advancements to you video edits Eric, it is very cool. Never thought you’d say bad “A” though. Lol.
Ha. Thanks!
Love the nighttime footage of this engine running!!
Great review Eric, I have 5011 and Lionel did a great job on these models.
Very cool!
Love love love your work.
Thanks!
i love the paint design
Wow Congratulations 🎉🍾! I am with you… the paint scheme looks fantastic and yes too cool being able to swap out the smoke stacks. Looks great going at speed as well. Thanks for the review.
Thank you!
That's pretty! I like that one. It's done nicely .. Love that rear facing smoke stack!
1700 CSDT Lionel has done a Beautiful job on this 2-8-4 Texas Pacific; so REALISTIC. LIKE their 1948-55 Postwar Manufacturing Guality!!!
Hey there! Just ordered my own USSF Legacy SD70 from Legacy Station...it's on its third run! I dropped your name. Thanks for helping me spend my money. Nick
Very Very nice engine super sweet and great video too
Such an awesome model. That paint scheme looks fantastic! 👌
An awesome review as always Sir Eric. I currently own the Pennsy version of this Loco. Cab no. 6510. I love the Dark Brunswick green Pennsy color. The only downside is the whistle steam effect seams weak on my Loco compared to my 2 older Legacy Steam locos.
Sounds awesome too
Very cool locomotive there Eric great share 😎🚂
Great video Eric. Keep em coming and I'll keep watching.
Amazing train another beautiful train to add to your
Collection. Great video 🚂🚋🚃🚋🚃🚋🚃🙃👍
Love the 2-10-4. The Black Bonnet is very pretty. Not going to lie, I bought the KCS from the previous run because of you. It is my second favorite engine in my fleet.
Wow, congrats! It’s a great loco!
Minor note about the stack options:
The curved stack seen for most of the review and the straight stack with additional details were both prototypical to the ATSF.
The Curved stack was designed to direct the draft and smoke from the stack back mainly for running through tunnels as this would reduce ware on the tunnel, some other railroads had deploy able stack covers like this with the most notable engine to have such a feature being the Union Pacific Heavy Challengers.
The second straight stack is a ATSF collapsible stack that could be raised and lowed by the engineer, these stacks were unique to the ATSF as far as I know.
yes
Mr Eric is the tender bigger than the Pennsylvania RR long haul tender that comes with J1a.I love these engines.
6434 is my prize locomotive
Awesome engine, love how an artist mistake in 1948 lead to the most iconic fantasy scheme
Indeed
Seems the extra bell sounds don't sound that good after you pass the first 2 sounds good last 3 usually sound bad 2 me anyways
But beautiful engine Love that tender and the extra smoke stacks
That's a great-looking in engine Eric love that smokestack 👍👍
Thanks 🙏
Another amazing video Eric! 👍🏻
Beautiful engine Eric!!!
Love the smoke stack feature. Wish Lionel would do more for S
17:48 Jeez that baby can fly!
I’ve watched a lot of these videos and this is by far the best review of this engine! I really think I’m going to pick this one up! 💯
Thanks so much!
I love this locomotive!
What a beauty !
Very nice Eric 😊😊
I got a big pre-order coming in to Nicholas Smith in Q3. New Mikado, ex MTH tolled freight set, and the house Harry Potter cars
The first 2-10-4, Santa Fe 5000, nicknamed “Madame Queen” is also preserved in I believe a park in Amarillo, Texas.
I actually saw the atsf 5000 some time ago
Nice video I really enjoyed it.
Thanks, Steve!
In the trains article about the Santa Fe Texas types it mentions that the Pennsylvania railroad engine Cruise preferred them over their own locomotives. Burning oil meant no cinders, and I believe they said it was smoother riding than the Pennsylvania railroad Texas types.
That thing’s whistle sounds like it could make the ground shake 😂
The black gasket on the stack is from the 3700 Northerns. I recommend buying those gaskets for the stacks because the 2 of the 3 new ones expanded from the heat and won't retake there older shape.
Nice some more steam
It’s kinda cool when you think about the fact that this engine is sort of supposed to be an advancement on the ever popular Berkshire’s. It’s pretty cool what people like me can come up with for steam engines.
That paint scheme is 🔥🔥🔥
Beautiful steam engine 🚂👍
awesome possum
I Love me some Selkirk locomotives
Someday I want to go to their home base Field BC and have a visit.
Right on
Hey Eric Siegel I have a fun fact. The Burlington Route called their 2-10-4’s Colorado’s.
I do like how Lionel is able to run these engines with conventional Tmcc Legacy LionCheif and bluetooth app.
SWEET MAN!
Eric did you have trouble installing the alternative smoke scoop ? 4:05
No
I like the new BFIMO intro!
Thanks for noticing!
What steam locos you know where the smoke also comes out the pistons?
I actually like this Fantasy Scheme
Nice
I saw Texas & Pacific 610 last weekend in Palestine!
Awesome!
You know I typically don’t like the fantasy paint schemes I usually like the more prototypical look but this engine is just beautiful. really good looking locomotive
How do you measure pulling power? - Thanks.
With a pulling scale
Cool!
PRR 6510 doesn't have it's headlight above it's smokebox face, it doesn't have an 8-axle coast-to-coast tender and it doesn't have the PRR's traditional modifications.
If I did not know any better, this engine feels extremely realistic.
No Firebox glow?
It has firebox glow, I just didn't show it.
My favorite 2-10-4 would have to be the B&LE / DMIR with their centipede tenders
It’s a former MTH engine. Correct?
I own one of these, and it's a great engine.
Unfortunately, despite having a dummy O gauge coupler, it's impossible to screw it in. The underside of the coupler binds against the cowcatcher, so the screw hole never aligns, nor is there any type of negotiation for it to swing. This flaw goes back to MTH's 2900s as well.
It looks good at night
17:48 it goes to fast on 2x
I like 2-10-4s
Hey Eric do you know what? I think that steam engine I have a Bruder maybe I don't know that for sure Eric?
Came pretty close @15:36 lol.
A trademark of Baldwin locomotives list the fact that all of the steam pipes in the cab of the locomotive were wrapped in asbestos for the safety of the crew in case of an accident they would not hit burning hot pipes. Baldwin sent detailed drawings to Santa Fe regarding the construction of the locomotives and the ALCO steam locomotive company send someone crude drawing. They knew who wanted their business. Just like all the beautiful old cars that were scrapped by patriotic Americans for the Steele drive during the war. The steam locomotive in the 1950s met the same fate perfectly usable for decades but cut up for absolutely nothing. So sad.
Frank is back!
If i ever had a layout i want CP 5935 and CP 5931 the two remaining preserved Selkirks in my fleet
In addition to
2860, 2858, 2850, 2839 and 2816
The part that gets me is I also want CN6060 but it would be the only non CP in the set haha
Right on
Why do you call it 2-10-4 instead of texas?
I do call it a Texas during the video.
10:03 10:11 10:20
Santa Fe lease 2 10 4 to Pennsylvania railroad back in 1950s
i want another 2-8-4 lionel i love them but it has to be H0
Dish is my favorite Santa Fe 🚂 steam locomotive. I have several copies of the issue of trains magazine which was devoted to the Santa Fe 2-10-4. I would love to buy one if it was in conventional only with no BS electronic control systems because unless you have a club size layout that you have to run by yourself then you need all the electronics. I have basically four overs with ever-increasing diameter to accommodate larger steam locomotives. I hate the fact they load up the locomotives with all these unnecessary electronics and I know you can run them and conventional but you paid for them and they go bad if you use them and they go bad if you don't. When the circuit boards in my Williams diesel locomotives go out I'm going to put rectifiers in so the AC is changed to DC for the motor. I won't have any whistle or Bell but that's okay because I don't want to listen to that every 9 second s as it goes around the layout. I don't like these goofy paint schemes. These locomotives like most of the modern steam locomotives of the times had their lives cut short because of diesel locomotives. In the steam locomotive days you worked until the day you died because you loved the job. Except it wasn't a job in the9-5 sense. It was your profession and you took pride in the job that you did. I remember a picture on the wall left over from the steam day showing the dead bodies of the locomotive crew and the bottom half of the locomotive when a Pennsylvania decapod blew up. Steam locomotive engineers we're much better than the guy who just ran diesel locomotives. A steam engineer can easily run a diesel locomotive but a diesel guy is flabbergasted trying to run a steam locomotive 🚂.I used to bump cars over the weekend with my uncle who was the purchasing agent for the Long Island railroad and yeah you check the oil level in the air starter on the alcove switcher and then you fire up the engine and you just run around three or four hours on a Sunday and you line up all the cars from Monday and then the union calls you and says that you're stealing work from the brotherhood. Those ALCO switchers had old 539 Seymour and McIntosh engines. They lasted in-service many many years even with questionable maintenance.
Let's go Frank!
@@Ericstrains my house and my train room are still in shambles from the mega hurricane we had last August in Florida. When I get everything sorted out I will go through my boxes of TRAINS magazines and I will send you a copy of the August 1973 issue all about the Santa Fe Texas type steam locomotives. My Sportster is in the shop when it comes out later on this year I hope to be able to go to some train shows. In clewiston they restored a Pacific and 3 passenger cars For excursion. I cannot wait to see a real steam locomotive with a fire in her belly. The dinner train stopped coming to punta Gorda because of a lack of patronage. They could not get 200 people to sign up for a trip. With all of the rich train nuts in Florida I cannot stand this because I loved going on to dinner train 🚂🚃 just so I could support the railroad. I loved going to the railroad museum up in Parrish Florida but it got closed and went out of business because of the covid bulshit. So sad. I am so glad I videotaped my whole excursion when me and my biker buddy road up there. Just think that a model of the 2-10-4 cost half as much as the scrap value of the locomotive and the 1950s. One guy wrote an article about how he try to shave a central of New Jersey Camelback it was freshly shopped and freshly painted. They ran a few excursions but did not make enough money to save the locomotive and the foreman said it was the prettiest engine ever sent to this crap line. The guy was paying $100 a month car payment so he could not afford to buy it. You know what that locomotive would be worth now! Nice chatting about trains with you.
Well I might be able to afford one of these locomotives after all the electronics go up in smoke and the owner has a heart attack as to the cost of fixing the engine and I would just buy it and have it wired up to where it would run forward only without any bulshit features. I know a couple of people who had PS1 locomotives who did exactly that and they were much happier. It would be nice to be able to have the choice.
Frank The Tank! Frank The Tank!
nice vid, nice review....but not a fan of that engine. Pass