Modern art isn't the CIA. It's just an environment where a rich person can pay $20,000 for a subjectively priced item, and then value it at $40,000. The natural subjectivity of it all means that they can and will elevate nonsense, because the whole field and the people involved in it will benefit financially.
True, only the last buyer who can not sell it with a higher price will pay his prices. i think this rule can be also applied on many other commercial scenarios.
Modern art per se wasn't the CIA, not at all. Most modern artists of the time absolutely despised the federal government, or were openly pro-communists...but the surge in modern art from the 1960s to the 1980s was covertly funded and sponsored by the same people who sent spy planes over the Soviet Union, killed Che Guevara, tried to assassinate Castro on a biweekly basis, and brought a communist guerrilla movement in South East Asia to their knees by posing as vampires History's weird, man....really weird
@@ilikerainandburgeroh no. The trick is that you spend less than what its estimated and then donate it to a museum so you can get the tax writeoff for donating a banana thats 'worth' 40k to a museum
I am so honored that a random funny comment linking Nick's video under Pippa's twitter post led to our Yabbit discovering the Chubby Power Ranger Now we just need to get Pippa onto the Unsub podcast
Pippa please…there’s literally so much proof that the moon landing happened… Anyway, I like some modern art (emphasis on some). I feel like it breaks down art to its most basic elements. Shapes, negative space, colors, stuff like that.
1) Modern art is easy to reproduce and can be used for money laundering. 2) "Uglification" of art is also #22 and #23 in the Current Communist Goals of 1963.
@simonbelmont1986 6.2 mil. But yeah, the guy who bought it was a crypto bro, and his dad is a "finance guru". Tells me it was laundering from the jump.
Modern art often isn't art. It can look nice, there is some idea and effort put into it (sometimes), like the patterns and shapes and all but it's not art. Not every creative expression can be called "art". Snorting paint and spittng it back on a paper is not art. Taking a dump on a platter and then displaying it to the public is not art either.
I was diving in and out of this stream, but I do hope someone suggested she check out Dankula's video on how the CIA kept trying to assassinate Fidel Castro in increasingly absurd ways, from lining a diving suit with tuberculosis to poisoned cigars
@@baseballworldwide9439 want the TRUE head scratcher? Che Guevara got inspired to become a guerrillero when he witnessed the Arbenz/Arevalo coup in Guatemala in 1954, and saw the fighter planes strafing the city. The coup was sponsored by the US government and led by the CIA by request of Universal Fruit Co. and the fighter pilots were mercenaries paid by the CIA The CIA listening to a fruit company created indirectly the enemy at their doorstep
Pippa going from calling the CIA dumb to seeing they are actually playing 4d chess with us all and still are with art was so funny. What a wild time to be alive. Personally when I was younger I wasn't really a fan of modern art but as I've aged I've grown to appreciate some of them. You'll have to give us a stream on the moon landing and government cheese sometime. Good night bros, sleep well. OtsuCringe
I think it's great that somebody like Thomas Kinkade was able to start a successful business from his art and make a lot of money, but I find his art dreadfully boring and can understand why many artists don't think his art has any merit. It's difficult to explain concisely, but there is nothing interesting or challenging about any of his pieces. The compositions are static, the overall piece often difficult to read at a glance, the visual hierarchy difficult to determine and the subject matter depicted is just sort of... there, without any contribution to a greater whole. It's inoffensive in every way, which is perfect for a greeting card you're supposed to glance at, think "oh nice cozy cottage" and never again give it a second thought. To really grasp the difference, compare Kinkade's work to that of Albert Bierstadt or any of the Hudson River School, of Ivan Aivazovsky, who painted gripping scenes and landscapes. If these are classical music masterpieces, then Kinkade is elevator music. There's nothing wrong with making a lot of money composing elevator music, but it will never have the same merit as Tchaikovsky. The people envious of his success can keep malding tho.
Artist who get jealous over other, or call artist sells out or "commercial" are just forcing their moral beliefs on what art is or can be. That an they tend to be the artist no one is will to pay, so they're also bitter.
Maybe the flaw in the CIA's plan is that they changed US culture in order to preserve it. It was a fascinating stream, whatever. Hope you sleep well. Otsu.
Thanks for the stream! Kinda funny to know CIA made modern art happen. I stand by my opinion that abstract expressionist modern art is a dumb aesthetic and the way it can still be called art because it can envoke the emotion of anger out of me makes me insane. I just hate it, it doesn't look good and there's way better filler art out there than that.
2:00:00 I like the painting as it represents chaos but also a steady growth in learning (if he includes his previous pieces, which he did not). I feel like it isn't the skill of the artist in modern art that "makes it" but it is the batshit insane creativity, luck, and reputation that makes it these days. On one hand that is quite tragic because it means you can make "whatever" and if you are popular it becomes art, but on the other hand it means that challenge pissing can be arguably one of the greatest forms of art out there.
As an artist, some of my best work was made when I was at my worst emotionally/mentally. I sometimes wonder if it would be worth getting that bad again just to create something I can be at least a little proud of.
Do you really think the government is organized enough to do something like this? What is mire likely: The govenment being 100% efficient or a bunch of crazy rich people making the art equivalent of NFTs?
A lotta people say oh that’s too easy to make to be art, they didn’t work at it. It’s too quickly made or commercially viable, etc etc. But a YCH template that is barely customized in a hour for my twitch emotes would never be called “not art” for the same reasons. It’s just as much art as a custom piece I commission
not CIA, but it is related to glow ops because it's massive money laundering. at least ""modern art"" That stuff at 4:30+ is just cool idea and actually looks good by itself, anything "modern art" shits out is random to "break habits" or whatever and looks like children's art without the soul.
The "technology" they lost was expert welders. Each engine bell was a continuous hollow steel tube welded in thousands of spots by expert welders without a single imperfection. They designed a version to be built with additive manufacturing, but by that point beurocratic lethargy had take over NASA, and started caring more about politics than actual achievements.
Spirograph artists shouldn't be selling the art, they should be selling the experience Picture this: you go to the artist's workshop, he tells you how the spirograph works, you choose the colours, and with his guidance you make the whole art yourself Then suddenly it has artistic value, not in the pretty patterns, but in the experience of creating it. That painting you put on your wall suddenly has a story, an experience, and the homeowner's own expression reflected from within Art is not just about the product, but the creation as well
I usually have the gut reaction to say I hate this type of modern art by default. However... Nice colors are nice. Not all the stuff was that bad, especially the funny paint bucket man. Pollack sucks though, otsucringe.
Interesting stream tonight looking at modern art and all that came with it, I still lost all confidence in it after that banana dubacle. The one vid we watched talking about art and it's part in the cold war was pretty neat. I will not touch on the moon landing take, I can not take another headache lol but to each their own and like you said it's good to talk about differing takes. Thanks for the fun stream tonight Pippa and hope you have a great night, otsucringe! ~fluffles away~ Enjoy the time with your family etc
I’m kind of curious to see what your opinion of Clive Barker’s Art is after seeing this. Like his paintings and shit, not Hellraiser or anything. Tho that’s certainly Welcome. I think you’d be into how weird his Work like Abarat (Totally Misspelled That) is, and there’s plenty of Docs/Interviews you can find here to examine
What makes these paintings cool is the mix of preparation, geometry, and physics, with satisfying patterns. Modern art often has a bad reputation, especially after seeing that museum, though there are exceptions. True art reflects the spectrum of human experience, both true suffering and joy, allowing it to resonate deeply in a person's life. CIA, doing what they do best, but at least it was entertaining this time. Watching old commercials, like the Gorbachev one, would be fun. Otsucringe.
It Looks cool , people get mad with pretentiius artístics tipes , like the 'foi Just dont get it ' tipe. People also get mad with the exorbitante nonsense prices of 'colectible' itens that are clear made up tax offs
Thanks for the stream, I do think stuff with art is just gonna be subjective always and good art is more often with just powerful emotions backing the piece up, often suffering yes but not always. But it is what it is, maybe not everyone agreed with tonight but it's your opinion so it's not right or wrong, it's just what you see. OTSUCRINGE! Thanks for the stream, hope you have a good time with your family and don't get too tired out by them!
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The CIA astroturfing the entire modern art scene is something that's instantly believable upon hearing
Thank you for the stream, Otsucringe!
Modern art isn't the CIA. It's just an environment where a rich person can pay $20,000 for a subjectively priced item, and then value it at $40,000. The natural subjectivity of it all means that they can and will elevate nonsense, because the whole field and the people involved in it will benefit financially.
True, only the last buyer who can not sell it with a higher price will pay his prices.
i think this rule can be also applied on many other commercial scenarios.
Modern art per se wasn't the CIA, not at all. Most modern artists of the time absolutely despised the federal government, or were openly pro-communists...but the surge in modern art from the 1960s to the 1980s was covertly funded and sponsored by the same people who sent spy planes over the Soviet Union, killed Che Guevara, tried to assassinate Castro on a biweekly basis, and brought a communist guerrilla movement in South East Asia to their knees by posing as vampires
History's weird, man....really weird
@@ilikerainandburgeroh no. The trick is that you spend less than what its estimated and then donate it to a museum so you can get the tax writeoff for donating a banana thats 'worth' 40k to a museum
That's how nft works
You missed the part that they get their art friend to appraise it for a million dollars and then donate it to an art museum for a nice tax write off.
My Oshi discovered chubby electron guy! What a time to be alive
I am so honored that a random funny comment linking Nick's video under Pippa's twitter post led to our Yabbit discovering the Chubby Power Ranger
Now we just need to get Pippa onto the Unsub podcast
Pippa on the unsub podcast would be insane
Pippa please…there’s literally so much proof that the moon landing happened…
Anyway, I like some modern art (emphasis on some). I feel like it breaks down art to its most basic elements. Shapes, negative space, colors, stuff like that.
1) Modern art is easy to reproduce and can be used for money laundering.
2) "Uglification" of art is also #22 and #23 in the Current Communist Goals of 1963.
Kinkade art is wholesome and cozy, modern art is homosexual.
The ones who hate it have never been outside
Modern art has to be money laundering. No way a banana taped on a brick would be $2m
@simonbelmont1986 6.2 mil. But yeah, the guy who bought it was a crypto bro, and his dad is a "finance guru". Tells me it was laundering from the jump.
Government agencies always strive to have a controlling stake in criminal activities. Give with one hand, take with the other.
gotta still pay taxes on what you steal, there is a line on a form for that
Modern art often isn't art. It can look nice, there is some idea and effort put into it (sometimes), like the patterns and shapes and all but it's not art. Not every creative expression can be called "art". Snorting paint and spittng it back on a paper is not art. Taking a dump on a platter and then displaying it to the public is not art either.
I was diving in and out of this stream, but I do hope someone suggested she check out Dankula's video on how the CIA kept trying to assassinate Fidel Castro in increasingly absurd ways, from lining a diving suit with tuberculosis to poisoned cigars
Ready for a real head scratcher? They supported his movement prior to the revolt occurring. The ops go deeper than any of us realize…
@@baseballworldwide9439 want the TRUE head scratcher? Che Guevara got inspired to become a guerrillero when he witnessed the Arbenz/Arevalo coup in Guatemala in 1954, and saw the fighter planes strafing the city.
The coup was sponsored by the US government and led by the CIA by request of Universal Fruit Co. and the fighter pilots were mercenaries paid by the CIA
The CIA listening to a fruit company created indirectly the enemy at their doorstep
Pippa going from calling the CIA dumb to seeing they are actually playing 4d chess with us all and still are with art was so funny. What a wild time to be alive. Personally when I was younger I wasn't really a fan of modern art but as I've aged I've grown to appreciate some of them. You'll have to give us a stream on the moon landing and government cheese sometime. Good night bros, sleep well. OtsuCringe
I think it's great that somebody like Thomas Kinkade was able to start a successful business from his art and make a lot of money, but I find his art dreadfully boring and can understand why many artists don't think his art has any merit. It's difficult to explain concisely, but there is nothing interesting or challenging about any of his pieces. The compositions are static, the overall piece often difficult to read at a glance, the visual hierarchy difficult to determine and the subject matter depicted is just sort of... there, without any contribution to a greater whole. It's inoffensive in every way, which is perfect for a greeting card you're supposed to glance at, think "oh nice cozy cottage" and never again give it a second thought.
To really grasp the difference, compare Kinkade's work to that of Albert Bierstadt or any of the Hudson River School, of Ivan Aivazovsky, who painted gripping scenes and landscapes. If these are classical music masterpieces, then Kinkade is elevator music. There's nothing wrong with making a lot of money composing elevator music, but it will never have the same merit as Tchaikovsky.
The people envious of his success can keep malding tho.
Pippa reacting to Fat Electrician is two worlds I'd never expect to intersect and I'm here for it. 🐰⚡️
Alright...the moon landing couldn't really be fake. So, I'm guessing this is some inside joke thing....
Nah, it's money laundering. Plain and simple.
Modern art might not be a CIA op but I got a feeling money laundering is at the heart of a lot of it. Thanks for the stream, Pippa.
Artist who get jealous over other, or call artist sells out or "commercial" are just forcing their moral beliefs on what art is or can be. That an they tend to be the artist no one is will to pay, so they're also bitter.
This rabbit is on fire. I love it!
I dont get art...
but i know what i like and it might be pink in color.
Thanks for stream,
OtsuCringe
Maybe the flaw in the CIA's plan is that they changed US culture in order to preserve it. It was a fascinating stream, whatever. Hope you sleep well. Otsu.
Thanks for the stream! Kinda funny to know CIA made modern art happen.
I stand by my opinion that abstract expressionist modern art is a dumb aesthetic and the way it can still be called art because it can envoke the emotion of anger out of me makes me insane. I just hate it, it doesn't look good and there's way better filler art out there than that.
2:00:00 I like the painting as it represents chaos but also a steady growth in learning (if he includes his previous pieces, which he did not). I feel like it isn't the skill of the artist in modern art that "makes it" but it is the batshit insane creativity, luck, and reputation that makes it these days. On one hand that is quite tragic because it means you can make "whatever" and if you are popular it becomes art, but on the other hand it means that challenge pissing can be arguably one of the greatest forms of art out there.
As an artist, some of my best work was made when I was at my worst emotionally/mentally. I sometimes wonder if it would be worth getting that bad again just to create something I can be at least a little proud of.
Do you really think the government is organized enough to do something like this?
What is mire likely: The govenment being 100% efficient or a bunch of crazy rich people making the art equivalent of NFTs?
A lotta people say oh that’s too easy to make to be art, they didn’t work at it. It’s too quickly made or commercially viable, etc etc.
But a YCH template that is barely customized in a hour for my twitch emotes would never be called “not art” for the same reasons. It’s just as much art as a custom piece I commission
not CIA, but it is related to glow ops because it's massive money laundering.
at least ""modern art""
That stuff at 4:30+ is just cool idea and actually looks good by itself, anything "modern art" shits out is random to "break habits" or whatever and looks like children's art without the soul.
Who would have thought they actually are, you never know what they are doing to the point it's best to assume they have their roots in everything.
We certainly went into some places tonight. Wonder if Pippa denies the moon landing since rabbits have a special connection to the moon.
Yes, she denied it multiple times.
Pipa gonna feel really silly when Elon posts pictures of the lunar lander on location
I'm so used to watching Pippa at double speed, that it sounds weird to hear her at X1...
Do it Pippa, do a moon landing stream
She lost the technology
To stream that is
The "technology" they lost was expert welders. Each engine bell was a continuous hollow steel tube welded in thousands of spots by expert welders without a single imperfection. They designed a version to be built with additive manufacturing, but by that point beurocratic lethargy had take over NASA, and started caring more about politics than actual achievements.
Spirograph artists shouldn't be selling the art, they should be selling the experience
Picture this: you go to the artist's workshop, he tells you how the spirograph works, you choose the colours, and with his guidance you make the whole art yourself
Then suddenly it has artistic value, not in the pretty patterns, but in the experience of creating it.
That painting you put on your wall suddenly has a story, an experience, and the homeowner's own expression reflected from within
Art is not just about the product, but the creation as well
Pippa, if the moon landing didn't happen we would have had an equally as amazing of a accomplishment by now.
Art is expression, there are good and bad ways to express. Some modern art is nice, some sucks.
Thanks for the fun stream and all the best Pippa!!
for me i love grandma moses artwork. very cozy
No one is talking about the Moon Landing thing.
I usually have the gut reaction to say I hate this type of modern art by default. However...
Nice colors are nice. Not all the stuff was that bad, especially the funny paint bucket man.
Pollack sucks though, otsucringe.
Interesting stream tonight looking at modern art and all that came with it, I still lost all confidence in it after that banana dubacle. The one vid we watched talking about art and it's part in the cold war was pretty neat. I will not touch on the moon landing take, I can not take another headache lol but to each their own and like you said it's good to talk about differing takes. Thanks for the fun stream tonight Pippa and hope you have a great night, otsucringe!
~fluffles away~
Enjoy the time with your family etc
Pollock's work just looks like a drop cloth for someone who sucked painting walls and kept getting paint everywhere.
"I wish I could show Interior Semiotics on stream..." thank you fir reminding me why you are my Kami Oshi, Chicken Pizza.
Every time I see them most of the people who hate kinkade have never been outside before.
Paint is not that expenscive, the big ones Will cost Around 200 tops
We can't comment on ongoing operations at this current time.
Ah, there’s the Pippa please…
Thanks for the stream Pipster, it was interesting.
This stream makes me want to paint something, I don't know what, but something
Wasn’t expecting to hear Devil May Cry music here, but it’s a Pleasant Surprise. Cool VOD
I’m kind of curious to see what your opinion of Clive Barker’s Art is after seeing this. Like his paintings and shit, not Hellraiser or anything. Tho that’s certainly Welcome. I think you’d be into how weird his Work like Abarat (Totally Misspelled That) is, and there’s plenty of Docs/Interviews you can find here to examine
Nooooooo AI in the MoMA. Grooooooosssssssss
Last Reply: This was much more of a pickmeup than I was expecting. Thanks
Yeah not everything has to be the Mona Lisa it can be Pippa and Lisa sometimes too.
What makes these paintings cool is the mix of preparation, geometry, and physics, with satisfying patterns. Modern art often has a bad reputation, especially after seeing that museum, though there are exceptions.
True art reflects the spectrum of human experience, both true suffering and joy, allowing it to resonate deeply in a person's life.
CIA, doing what they do best, but at least it was entertaining this time. Watching old commercials, like the Gorbachev one, would be fun. Otsucringe.
Based stream
What if vtubers are a CIA glowop?
OtsuVOD!
It Looks cool , people get mad with pretentiius artístics tipes , like the 'foi Just dont get it ' tipe.
People also get mad with the exorbitante nonsense prices of 'colectible' itens that are clear made up tax offs
Thanks for the stream, I do think stuff with art is just gonna be subjective always and good art is more often with just powerful emotions backing the piece up, often suffering yes but not always. But it is what it is, maybe not everyone agreed with tonight but it's your opinion so it's not right or wrong, it's just what you see. OTSUCRINGE! Thanks for the stream, hope you have a good time with your family and don't get too tired out by them!
This comment is art.
Otsucringe