Why Indie Wrestling Is Still So Important
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- Simon Miller on the importance of a thriving indie wrestling scene to WWE, AEW, and the entire sport...
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Love the shoutout to my local indie, Defy! I go to almost every show they have in Seattle and it's legitimately just the best time. The crowd is always electric in a way that a big show can't replicate. They get awesome talent routinely. The matches are awesome. It's just a blast. People who want to talk down the indies just need to go to one show and their minds would almost assuredly be changed.
Independent wrestling is so awesome I've been to many shows and always leave happy
Coming from Chicago, where i took my now late son to his first wrestling show, where a young and not so well known CM Punk wrestled. That was one of the cool things we shared.
Sorry for your loss. Sounds like a great memory to have shared with him ❤
Indie wrestling made the likes of Cody Rhodes , Drew McIntyre , Walter aka Gunther , Bryan Danielson , Matt Cardona , Damien Priest etc into bigger stars outside of WWE
Technically yes but not bigger stars in a main stream way. It made them prove themselves to harcore fans but they weren’t main stream outside of wwe
Some of the best matches I have seen in person was about 50-100 people in a high school gym or auditorium. Too bad so many “fans” are caught up in ratings and attendance. It can be 5 people at a show and i wouldn’t care. Support indy wrestling!!
Earlier this year I went to a small lucha show in the middle of a mall in Nashville. There were some major talent like Moose, Mystico, and Komander in the main event.
But the rest of the card was people I had never heard of. Some of them were the most memorable part of the show.
But by far the best part of this show was the children’s reactions. All these hispanic kids stood on the guard rail going insane! Cheering for the good guys and booing the bad guys. Cheering for Mystico as he led a chant of MEXICO MEXICO MEXICO!
These 20-30 kids were incredible! I have never been in that environment in a wrestling show and it was glorious.
I saw a comment today where someone claimed that the indie wrestling era almost "killed the wrestling business." That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard as a wrestling fan. Indie wrestling is and has always helped keep the business alfoat and provided another place for wrestlers to continue working and either get better, rebuild their name, or build up their name to get noticed by other promotions, especially during the 2010s. Hell, WWE basically pillaged the indie scene in the U.S. AND the UK of its talent during the 2010s. A majority of the top talent across every wrestling promotion in North America has had some of kind of experience on the indies. The top promotions in the business can not sign everybody to their rosters, nor can they keep everybody on their rosters, so the indies makes it easier for them to not have to worry about that because the talent that they either release or don't sign have somewhere to go. Also, the indies are an alternative for fans who want to see something new or different, or an introduction to the business for newer fans.
I'm not a sports entertainer I am here to entertain you with my sport.
-Timothy Thatcher
Indies are important because not every company can become a big league.
Its crazy to think people don’t know Joe Hendry played a huge role on this channel and now he’s on the way to become WWE’s next big thing
How so? I honestly don't know his history.
@@ChrisLTJoe Hendry wrestled for WCPW, a promotion ran by Whatculture as one of their main wrestlers
@@crestgamez Oh, that's pretty neat.
Ill be 35 next month and I always wished I could be a pro wrestler. My one regret is never trying it out.
At this point though, I'd love to just be a part of an upstart promotion.
I personally would love it if the territories were ever brought back to life. Allow whatever promotions are in each territory the opportunity to work in conjunction with each other and let them be feeder systems for the larger more well-known promotions: WWE, AEW, TNA, NJPW, ROH
3:26 actually sometimes it actually is a bingo hall! Big shout to Attack ❤
Indie wrestling saved my love for wrestling 20 years ago, when I got disinterested with WWE due to not being a fan of the Cena era, and most of my favourite guys either leaving the company, retiring, or straight up dying.
Through shoot magazines I heard about the much praised Joe/Daniels/Styles Triple Threat, found it online and started searching for more matches with these three, as they were amazing. Due to this I found my way to ROH. Started looking up the guys these three were fighting to find even more awesome matches and more wrestlers I enjoyed like Punk, Danielson, Aries or the Briscoes. And I just became a fan of the company and what it stood for. Spent the next few years watching ROH DVDs, and also getting into Japanese wrestling due to the Japanese stars that wrestled for ROH.
I only became interested in WWE again, when Punk and then later Danielson entered the company. And nowadays it's really nice to see how almost all the people I enjoyed in ROH and followed from the beginning of their careers, had great success in either WWE, NJPW or AEW.
I've been to almost every wXw show in Oberhausen between fall of 2009 till mid 2019. Missed probably 4 or 5 shows in that span. The atmosphere was special at the beginning. Standing right at ringside, slapping the mat, 150 to 300 people in a small club. It grew and changed over time to more seats and bigger clubs and rooms. But it felt always hot. Whoever saw Ilyas entrance at 16 carat gold 2018 knows what I mean.
Through this time I've seen many matches of Tim Thatcher. I liked his style but it certainly wasn't for everyone. Team Ringkampf feat. Walter, Timo and Junior (aka Ludwig Kaiser) was a strong force.
wXw always had very diverse shows, some hardcore even ultra violence. Big US indy names like Bryan, Lo Ki, Hero, Roddy, Wolves and so on. Also lots of Japanese talent like Kenta and Daisuke Sekimoto.
When Indy talent became harder to book a lot of the old fans lost interest. But were substituted by a lot more new fans.
So yeah, Indy wrestling is great.
Ilja vs. Bobby Gunns
That match and that crowd
Also, Ilja vs. WALTER vs. Bad Bones (RIP)
Simon is a damn good wrestler
Love Indy wrestling, went to a local indie promotion here in western Kentucky/Southern Indiana area & saw honestly a true HOFer on multiple occasions in ECW legend & someone I’d call a friend & have the most respect for in late great “Wild Eyed Southern Boy” Tracy Smothers, saw & met former NWA Worlds Champion & former WWF/E wrestler Rob Conway & also met & talked to current WWE producer Abyss/Chris “Joseph” Park. Also 3 guys who’ve worked backstage in the E as extras & deserve a shot because they’re like Ricochet & can honestly go, as a group or individually in the ring are honestly that good.
Unless you're a WWE fan, cause they think everything outside of that sucks.
BIG facts!!! 💯💯💯💯
Shoutout to CCW here in South Florida
ROH - pre tony Kahn
WXW - German wrestling
PWG - Years ago
I am hearing a lot of great things about DPW as of late . They are in my notes of companies I feel I have got to check out . Right now they are number 1 on the list to do so .
The Indie Scene - The land that the big two forget at their peril.
P.S. A shout out to all and sundry who and that make up the circuits in British Columbia, Canada.
lucha underground was the best indy wrestling promotion that and ECW changed/ save the wrestling world
WhatCulture Wrestling, amazing video I loved it
Gunther had to spend years and even the mindset that he could be a star without WWE, so he bully his own aura to the point WWE bent over backwards and waited until he would say yes to a full time deal. NXT and the PC are great to smooth the edges, but I’ll still someone who honed their craft working the indies
Independent wrestling shows were the first place I’d felt like I was around like minded humans who just wanna have fun and enjoy themselves, in long time. Felt like the old punk shows I’d go to in high school, great times with great people
Obviously, independent wrestling is important, without independent wrestling a lot of guys like Danielson, Gunther etc don’t exist.
I have to shout out Canadian Wrestling's Elite (CWE), and "Hotshot" Danny Duggan. We get a show roughly every 3 months here in my home town in Northern Ontario Canada. They have their own homegrown talent, most notably Mentallo , who wrestled Takashida on AEW Dark. Because of CWE I've gotten the chance to see Psychosis, Juventud Guerrerra, Chris Masters, Erik Rowen, D'Lo Brown, and most notably Kenny Omega. Support indie wrestling!
Simon, think how great a Timothy Thatcher vs. Bryan Danielson.
Wonderful
Question: where does the line between independent and the likes of WWE/AEW/TNA end?
Having TV deals? Being controlled by a corporation?
Uk scene is on fire atm
Oh shit I hope they put it out soon. 😮
Wooo OTT!
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That pic of Simon makes me think of the Sheriff from Yellowstone
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You got Joe Hendried
No indie wrestling, no wwe either. Where do people think wrestlers come from, hardly ever nxt 😢😅❤
NXT black & gold was so special. It felt like an indy with a wwe budget. Great times
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GC DUB, GC Dub, GC Dub!
Also can i get a pin bc im a big fan
Indie culture ruined the WWE
It isn’t,
How?
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