The Reasons Ashes Of Creation is Taking So Long
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- @RyveGenesis
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Why Ashes of Creation is TAKING SO LONG!
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Bro is completely unaware of Ashes' systems, holy shit🤣
Yeah, sadly it feels like he doesn't keep up with ashes information. His takes constantly show a lack of knowledge on the project.
this was one of the most painful videos I ever watched about AoC... holy..
This was seriously painful. He's lost in the BDO copium single player garbage
need to be honest though, BDO was kinda trash when it first released. world was big and beautiful sure, but alot of the systems were a mess.
bdo is more trash now than ever, once u play it for a long time u realise it has no content , 99% of the game is meaningless boring waste of time
Why are you saying ashes is asking for money? With how inaccurate your information is, are you sure you aren't confusing ashes with pantheon?
"Most complex system is the tetris inventory system" jeez...un-informed doesnt even begin to describe his opinions
I mean to be fair who cares if its taking too long, the games already funded we literally just have to sit around and wait.
100% agree. When the alpha 2 arrives in quarter 3 of this year, then we'll have something more tangible to judge.
funded but money eventually will run out if they are still in 'development phase' for YEARS. Remember, they first announce the game way back end of 2016. We are looking at almost 8 years right now. Even WoW started development in 2001 and release at 2004. Also AoC live in the best technology/resource we had compared to WoW .Let's sink that
@@OsmosisMaple multiple factors you're ignoring here. The project is funded through steven sheriff and its funded to completion, not just funded for the moment.
When they first announced their aoc they had less than 20 people. Now they have over 200 I believe. (That last number may be wrong) so when people say it's been in development for nearly 8 years it's not taking into account this is an new team that is still finishing being formed even now. The scale of ashes is also significantly larger than most mmos including wow and bdo. Ultimately if the games good and they deliver on their goals then I'm willing to wait.
Please do a little more research into Ashes of Creation. You make several false statements regarding Ashes as well as even BDO
Ashes never "Asked / Begged" For money any time they even mentioned the alpha / beta access packages they straight up told people not to buy it if they just wanted to "play the alpha".
I love your content blue but i don't like the "asking us for money" line, because they didn't. they put the option out there and CLEARLY told people what it was, an option for people with the disposable money to throw at them to do so.
Im sceptical aswell on how AMAZING it will be but i do have hopes. /endAOCrant
Offering 250 dollar packages is asking for money. That is literally the point of a paid product, you wanting money in return for providing a product/service. Else they could have just done a closed alpha invite system instead of ‘the people that spend the most get to test’
That package has already been covered by multiple people. There is game subscription time paid in there as well as cosmetics. They never begged people to buy them. They have told people not to purchase it if they can't afford it and that if they don't intend on testing the game jot to get the alpha keys. They've never begged as the game is already fully funded.
@@stefanteal1075ah yes because offering subscriptions and 200+ packages for a game not even released is not asking for money.
Discouraging people from buying them if they aren't a tester and aren't invested in the project is definitely asking "begging " for money. The irony is that the alpha keys were already ended months ago because they had enough testers. Interesting to cut off your money supply when you are "begging" for money.
@@stefanteal1075you know what is a better way to discourage people from giving you money for something , not selling it
thats 100 employee just chilling drinking their starbucks coffee lol
One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.
-Carl Sagan
These AoC copers are truly lost
Yell at everyone to not give money to AoC. While at the same time giving PA money makes you a bigger part of the problem. We will never have another good MMO until the players stop buying into p2w garbage game design.
Had a bit of respect for your devils advocate viewpoint. You've gone completely off the rails from a competing view point to purely trolling for clicks. Just a snippet "Ashes most complicated system is a tetris inventory". Stuff like this is no longer quirky commentary, it's become the basis of your videos. Sorry you've moved into trash video category. To be skimmed over. If you can't have an intelligent take it's no longer worth clicking on the rage baiting.
congratulations buddy, this has to be one of the worst takes i have seen so far - absolute yikes.
People expect games to be made in a year without bugs. LMAO
Nah mate, Ashes has a way bigger scope than BDO. BDO's grind spots are basically all the same with different skins. They made some descent changes with the new spots, but any game with 3 decent raids has a bigger PvE scope than BDO. From a Life Skill and World perspective, BDO and Ashes are kinda similar, but I would give Ashes the edge, especially when you look at the day night cycle and weather systems and how they affect gameplay in Ashes. It seems like you didnt really inform yourself about all the things that are planned for Ashes.
Source: 6k hours in BDO and Alpha 1 Tester of Ashes.
Sounds like cope then. You played BDO for long enough to get bored by the grind, and you’re on crazy recency bias for Ash after playing a few hours.
Also loved how you skimmed over literally everything BDO has to offer to focus on grind zones.
Ashes will take over
Bdo took a year and a half and every system they implemented thus far has been a disaster due to its engine and other problems.
Bdo also took another 2 or 3 years after launch to become somewhat of a game to be fair. I think most of the mmos took around 7 to 8 years if you actually talk about being a.decent experience.
Wow Only 3 years. BDO is different kind of breed when it release (Best looking 3d mmo at that time). On top of that, Pearl Abyss build their own software from the ground exclusive for BDO and release the game after 5 years. AoC on the other hands, they use UE5, they already have a tools to make a game
what makes you think ashes will be any different at launch its gonna take like 2 weeks for big pvp guilds from other games to find meta class, build, way to progress and that becomes the only way to play the game and its gonna take like 2 years for them to come with patch people dont play like they show in the videos its open world pvp they are gonna gate keep grief abuse anyway they can
@@christophrs6930 where in this comment did i talk about ashes.. wtf?
@@OsmosisMaple bdo ran like trash on release because they couldn't figure out software engineering and how to not code memory leaks.
Idk wtf game you were playing but I played release KR and NA.
It was dogshit.
Infact it was so dogshit that the conquerer pack they sold was threatened for a class action lawsuit for false advertising the items it had inside it. Which allowed many, including myself, to refund through paypal and quit the game just months after "NA" release.
@@OsmosisMaple lmfao , wow took 4 and it wasnt from the ground up , bdo took 5 , 6 if u count the western release , best looking 3d mmo sure if u count the pop ins i guess , ashes also bascially made their own software too , its base is UE sure but its so far from it might as well be its own thing , lets not talk about how terrible bdo was for the first year or two . also how ashes started with a new studio with 20 people who arent even fully made of developers , realisticly ashes didnt start developing until late 2020- early 2021 and the fact the game is so much bigger than BDO or most other mmos will ever be .
hell i am pretty sure the alpha2 alone this year will have enough content as much as current bdo does ..actually nvm not like bdo got much its a single player grinding game mostly lol .
Why be mad tho? I'd understand if you were getting mad at devs of another genre, let's say for example gta6 sold pre alpha packages and skins before the game is done. It would obviously be infuriating af because they'd be establishing a trend of doing that in a genre of games that is fairly popular. But ashes? Ashes is in a genre that is fucking dead, burried, and long turned into crude oil, or whatever the dinosaurs have turned into after jesus christ was born and killed them with his laser eyes.
Getting mad at a game in a genre that is dead is about as pointless as buying a game that doesn't fucking exist.
If it's good then nice, if it's not then ill play manor lords, battletech and other games in different genres that are not dead. Simple as.
If you don't bother to learn about ashes systems and goals then why cover it? You clearly haven't kept up with ashes of creations systems and vision.
If forever "developing" is more profitable than an actual release, "development" will continue forever.
no way im paying them to be a alpha tester xD crazy time we are now. in the old time tester are compensated from their feedback
Quick google search tells me BDO was in development since 2010 and released in dec 2014 so thats 4-5 years which is alot longer than ur 1.5/2 year, pretty much every MMO out is a much smaller scope than what AoC is going with so he not realy on the cope alot of them are tiny in comparison, Like AoC map size is 3 times larger at launch than BDO is currently
that sounds like logic, dont use that here
Love your BDO content, but ragging on Ashes when you seemingly know very little about it is just not it. Let Alpha 2 come out this year so we can see people playing and then rag on it. Or rag on it when it doesn't come out this year.
so many plain wrong statements here regarding finished bioms, races, gameplay and pretty much everything.
its in alpha, its not even a game. its a test bed lmao
@@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 I've played games much worse then Ashes was in A1.
EDIT: NO WAY ARE YOU COPE GOBBLING GOBLINS SAYING EVE ONLINE IS A SMALL SCOPE GAME.
No one with a brain has been backing games since like the second scam game came along... NO ONE should trust AoC UNTIL you can actually play it and see it yourself, completed. Don't tell me AoC is "different" cause so was thousands of other indie scams. Stop with the cope and find a game to play that is actually real, if AoC finally shows up 5 years later, then you can talk about it.
How can it be a scam if we are literally watching the game be developed every month. New assets, new systems, new feature showcased every month. You might not be happy with how long it's taken, but saying it's a scam at this point is just angry people trying to be angry.
@@Ides385 you are paying to access to playtest, its not a game. get over it. Its not complete, its no where near ready. Go play something that actually exists.
@@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 More random angry comments that have nothing to do with anything. Do you even think about what you say before you type it out? It just looks like regurgitated troll comments.
@@Ides385 okay man keep giving random people online your money, i'm sure it will work out this time.
@@yourfavoritelawnguy2722 We do it all the time. It's called buying things online. You just make sure its legit before you spend. Which is very clear if you watch the updates over the last year with at least half a brain.
I really wanna know that video's like to dislike ratio. cause it should be your community viewing it, bdo copium andies, and still only 75 likes on a 3k views video? wow you surely talking Ls for 17min straight. no logic, no actual background review not only about aoc but for bdo as well! you must have 2 braincells and they both fighting for 3rd place.
COVID was a big set back. Ya, a bunch of game developers siting at home on their computers all day having nothing else to do or able to even leave the house.
Runescape only took 2 years to be developed, and it was made by 2 brothers. Idk where "6 years by an existing studio" came from
not a good video tbh
AoC will be the MMO.
i just cant listen to him thinking that mmo can be developed in less than 2 years, every good mmo took a lot of time, and all those mmos released with fraction of features ashes wants to release with. On top of that ashes technically is 8 years into the development, but first few years they had team of 20 ppl, so they made barely any progress. If you really believe that BDO was made in 1.5 years then you are lost mate.
I prefer them to take their time and release a great game. Deffo not spending a penny till i know for sure it's amazing though.. my investments working too hard in bdo rn.
ESO fully voice quests , 100+ hrs of content from the start divided in 3 campaings ( depending on your faction choice) + a massive pvp zone and crafting and combat systems is tiny scope LOL that guy is just farming rage
Esos launch was Doogie doo doo. Was there. People hated it. It went to fraction of its playerbase in under.a year.
i love how blue completely ignores the they had a existing studio already argument and thinks eves content now didnt take 21 years to develop
Eve online at launch is more expansive than Ashes could ever be, wtf you are talking about.,
The reason why development was delayed an additional couple years ie because they made the decision to swap from UE4 to UE5, and had to redo most everything. Also the comparison to giving women money is so cringe and incel vibes.
Throne and liberty has just 4 or 5 years, 5 years ago the game was like lost ark
Then you're at the mercy of these people to provide long term content for the game...
This has to become the next Star Citizen, also 1:40 had me rolling 🤣
look let be honest there is no mmopg on the market who has more features and that huge zones/whole map than AoC!So yes AoC will take i gonna say 2-3 years before game will be finished and released!
I don't have high hopes for AoC and full of skepticism about the project myself, but at least be factual Blue. You said a lot of mistruths through this video though, really hurts any credibility you have.
how can you tell 4 season are "emm okay" if they literally have all the mechanics connected to that like specific materials or caves open only during specific seasons. You compare korean grinder to a game that actually want you to have some kind of journey instead of spam skip, go kill 200 mobs, go back and so on. For example you keep saying shit about combat. The problem for me is that BDO combat is too "single player'ish" and I don't like it. I can't imagine fighting 100 vs 100 with bdo combat, it have to be closer to GW2 than BDO. Naval content, cool mechanics with caravans, trying to avoid only grinding by making living world based on events etc. How can you compare these two games in terms of scope? XD because in BDO you got cool looking shit? damn you are delusional about BDO which isn't even that popular, guess why?
Another thing is crying about ashes asking for money before they even launched. I prefer this 1000 times over cashgrab that BDO is guaranting right now. If ashes won't be p2w then it is a WIN for them anyway, giving cosmetics out that they need anyway to populate the world over mobile game p2w shop in BDO.
My only problem with Ashes is the combat. Why are we still going back to tab targeting?
Even as someone who backed AoC on kickstarer I hopped off the Copium now xd it's been literally almost 7y since then. The way people try to defend this absurdly long development with no end in sight is wild to me. People even forgot that initially AoC was saying that they would like to release before 2020, which obv has not happened xd What they put out is mediocre at best even philosophy wise and it has changed drastically over the whole development.. Also BDO and ESO have way bigger scope than AoC does. EVE is prob the biggest scope in the whole genre. Literally sad what ppl are trying to come up with to justify this.
is it just me or is this guy trying to talk like asmon
yes, together with the way he acts, not just speaks
Hey I saw myself in the video! Bad takes btw.
To be fair UE5 is a mess, I don't know any games on this engine that are good and well optimized at the same time. And for MMO, if it is truly Massive and Multiplayer, optimization is more important than anything - players in big numbers should interact without lags and disconnects, even if for bigger numbers gamers with mid computers and internet connections are playing. In the end I don't believe that UE5 can be properly optimized without disassembling and reassembling bigger part of it, and that changing to UE5 was a mistake.
The biggest reason this game will fail (if ot even launches) is because they are trying to appeal to a dying and shrinking market of gamers. MMOs typical dont appeal to younger gamers because the actual gameplay is so much slower paced than literally any other video game on the market. There are exceptions, like bdo, however there are issues with the exceptions that make them unappealing for a younger audience as well. When you make an MMO targeted at an older demo, you are targeting the working dads with 4-6 hrs a week to play, which means they won't be competitive with the no lifers unless... there is p2w.
I know the devs said there wouldn't be p2w, just try not to OD on the copium if you're thinking that will last.
It's not even out of alpha on year 8
All of ashes systems have a similarity… give us more money and we give you nothing in return 😂
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hide! ashes simps attacking in comment section
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Ashes of MID
Blue, you're on the bald of fame list for me; Asmongold, you, and Tectone. Thank you, for roasting that video, it's high copium.
So much copium in the comment section here xD Great reaction, Blue!
too much copium in that video, i can't handle it
First
BDO had to create its own engine and was developed in a fraction of time compared to AoC which is not even close to releasing after how many years? And this guy says that its more difficult these days when you literaly can make a game with "blueprints" in unreal with minimal knowledge in coding.....another shill confirmed
AoC doesn't seem that impressive to me. "Looks like a game from 2010" i mean he not wrong 😂