While I agree that MRH deserves so much more notoriety, I really prefer them in the stage they are right now. Smaller venues make the shows much more personal with the fans.
Slipknot was barely promoted when they made it big, and Slipknot has much better songs than MRH. Nothing against MRH, Slipknot is just a better band overall.
@@IJustFiguredThisOut I think it's MRH who has better songs. I listened to them all and I like almost all of them, while from SK I like only Psychosocial.
I remember this exact concert I was 10 and a mosh pit broke out and me and a bunch of other kids went on stage and played the drums and they signed my stick I still have it and this is the exact concert that got me into rock and I remember it ever day
nobody hates the band that is stupid as shit they are both just bands trying to make a living like everyone else slipknot made it much further obviously.....but mushroomhead is older, they started the mask thing BEFORE slipknot there's proof by way of video
Arif Nurhakim they all don't make it to every show. I heard in a interview they fill in for each other but most the time it's all three vocalists show up but the can get away with one or the other then they made a joke about benefits of wearing masks they can have fill ins and nobody knows any better
It makes me mad that mushroomhead made jeff use a backing track because he obviously still can sing id also rather be able to hear jeffs natural voice not the studio recording
It makes me mad that mushroomhead made jeff use a backing track because he obviously still can sing id also rather be able to hear jeffs natural voice not the studio recording
I think that, after Shmotz left, Stitch was the one that had to play keys.... but my theory is that it's because there were too many electronics for 1 person to manage/Stitch isn't good enough at keys (my opinion) lol. Just bear with me... You may notice that, while performing songs from XIII and onwards (especially when there are water drums), they play to a click track to have backing electronic tracks. EX: how else could there be keys on QWERTY/Damage Done this concert while Stitch does Water Drums? And sometimes, there are backing vocal tracks for Jeff as well (and I'm happy to note that he does not do that this concert). When they do pre-XIII, they generally didn't play to a click because those songs weren't recorded to click, and that was when Shmotz came in and when Stitch actually did his electronics because there were no water drums. It was how they had performed the songs since the mid 90s. HOWEVER, notice how Solitaire/Unraveling in this concert starts pretty fast but ends up being pretty slow during the chorus: it's because they put the electronics on backing tracks because Stitch either isn't good enough at keys or there are just too many electronics for 1 person to manage, so they played to a click that didn't change tempo. Also, Before I Die is locked at a slower tempo than they have done before while there are some minute tempo changes in the original recording and earlier performances such as the videos of Ozzfest (2002). *In my opinion*, it kinda sucks the soul out of performances of the older songs and they're now played slower than they have on previous tours and the tempo changes don't occur (though whether or not that's bad definitely is *subjective*; I like the songs being played faster and the tempo changes. It feels mad raw). It's strange that BWOMP of all songs was not arranged to be played to a click at this show. But if you look at shows after Steve replaced Jeff where Bwomp IS performed (2019), they no longer do the several tempo changes that they did before ~2015 because now it's played to a click. The backing tracks arrangement just had to have been done. This doesn't necessarily explain why Bwomp specifically hadn't been arranged in this way for this concert, but this is a reason for why it may not have been. Maybe it felt weird at the time because there were so many natural tempo changes when performed live 2015 and prior. This type of thing had been done before: if you look at the 2013 Rock Hard performance, you'll notice 43 is played at a consistent tempo, there are backing vocal tracks for Jeff, and there are electronic parts that aren't actually played by anyone because Stitch was playing water drums. This is over a year later, but I wanted to post this for you and other Mushroomhead fans to see sort of the ramifications (good and bad) of playing to click for the electronics, Shmotz's departure, the water drums, Stitch not being good enough at keys, etc. Also it sucks that there are shows in the past when there were vocal tracks in the backing track and Jeff was singing under them (and if you don't believe me compare performances from 2010-2015 to this concert). No judgement, I don't know why it happened (voice problems? Skinny's insistence?) and I don't care because he still sung the XX and prior songs raw/put on a great show, but again it's SO nice to hear purely his voice in this concert; he's still got the magic 25 years later.
On this Tour Bwomp was not in the Standard setlist because they had the tracks that feature Jackie. On the European run 2017 where I attended 2 Shows they only performed Bwomp on a few Shows where Jackie couldn't take part.
Jordan BEVAN that's skinny and he's getting old and has hip problems. He pretty much started the band so he's still in it and owns the rights to it. Second is roberto diablo, skinnys old drum tech that was asked to fill in on the water drums and then eventually drums because skinny needed to have surgery done (if i remember correctly) and halfway through shows they switch because his hips just can't do it for a whole show anymore.
1:21 - *_Qwerty_*
5:08 - *_Our Apologies_*
8:34 - *_Sun Doesn't Rise_*
13:08 - *_We Are the Truth_*
17:38 - *_Before I Die_*
21:26 - *_Out of my Mind_*
25:01 - *_Nowhere To Go_*
28:50 - *_Solitaire Unraveling_*
33:16 - *_One More Day_*
37:38 - *_Damage Done_*
40:53 - *_Becoming Cold_*
45:17 - *_Happy Birthday Marshall_*
48:11 - *_For Your Pleasure_*
52:30 - *_These Filthy Hands_*
57:37 - *_When Doves Cry/Among The Crows_*
1:03:29 - *_Empty Spaces/Born of Desire_*
I would remember and cherish the moment for the rest of my life I got to play in stage next to mrh.
Here in 2020 Covid land just dreaming about live shows 😔.
i can relate lol
2022, still dreaming
It's so sweet that the singer took care of the children
I was one of those kids on that stage I finally found the video ❤️ it was amazing
@@z_remmy_z1782 Hard to believe that
I love MH!!
Mrh
Was their all of the bands put on one hell of a good show would love to have them come back
This band should be playing much larger stages, Shame they didn't get the promotion of Slipknot when they were a band like 6 years before Slipknot.
Left Hook they themself said that they support small alley shows or something like that... just small stages on alleys lol
While I agree that MRH deserves so much more notoriety, I really prefer them in the stage they are right now. Smaller venues make the shows much more personal with the fans.
Slipknot was barely promoted when they made it big, and Slipknot has much better songs than MRH. Nothing against MRH, Slipknot is just a better band overall.
@@IJustFiguredThisOut I think it's MRH who has better songs. I listened to them all and I like almost all of them, while from SK I like only Psychosocial.
Kubek Herbaty well the masses says otherwise, but music is music, everyone has their own taste.
I remember this exact concert I was 10 and a mosh pit broke out and me and a bunch of other kids went on stage and played the drums and they signed my stick I still have it and this is the exact concert that got me into rock and I remember it ever day
Cool show!
I dont get it. People hate the band because they think they are copying slipknot, yet they have their own sound and they put on badass shows
Aussie Dog ikr, and they came out before slipknot
last time i remember both bands neither sound like each other one bit & the mask thing well who gives a fuck they both could be said as copying Gwar
Trevor Turner hey but i still love slipknot
Mushroomhead has been around since 1993 slipknot was created by roadrunner records after mushroomhead had problems with them look it up
nobody hates the band
that is stupid as shit
they are both just bands trying to make a living like everyone else
slipknot made it much further obviously.....but mushroomhead is older, they started the mask thing BEFORE slipknot
there's proof by way of video
Bueno 👍
ОБОЖАЮ!!!!!) Машрумы красавцы!)
how in the hell did I miss this???
Still missing waylon reavis
Arif Nurhakim they all don't make it to every show. I heard in a interview they fill in for each other but most the time it's all three vocalists show up but the can get away with one or the other then they made a joke about benefits of wearing masks they can have fill ins and nobody knows any better
Nick Clarkson Waylon left the band dude.
xFilthyHandsx Waylon was actually fired from the band. Stitch himself has stated it on his official Facebook page.
and jeffrey nothing
@@nickclarkson7987 yea Jeffrey and Walyan left
😎💀🤘🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
👍😎👏👏🔥🔥🔥🔥🎇✌
Enjoy while trippin and lose your mind wtf
What happen during Sun Doesnt Rise?
kids in the front row were getting pushed against the railing, j man asked skinny to stop playing so he could say but he never did.
@@tylerwilliams4927 j mann is alive, jj righteous died
@@WackoooTV JMann seems to be a nice person. Skinny, in the other hand... fuck that guy.
@@carlosucast seriously what’s a piece of shit for not aiding to young fans. Thank goodness for JMANN giving a shit
Where is jeff??
:V
Daora
Muito
song name in 48:14?
For Your Pleasure
Why couldn't he sing as well as he did in Nowhere To Go in Sun Doesn't Rise?
The backing track is louder than he is during NWTG and so we hear the backing track
In other words, he is doing Playback during that Song.
It makes me mad that mushroomhead made jeff use a backing track because he obviously still can sing id also rather be able to hear jeffs natural voice not the studio recording
It makes me mad that mushroomhead made jeff use a backing track because he obviously still can sing id also rather be able to hear jeffs natural voice not the studio recording
They didn´t play Bwomp on this show? That´s strange.
Yeah it looks like Bwomp was replaced with Our Apologies
I think that, after Shmotz left, Stitch was the one that had to play keys.... but my theory is that it's because there were too many electronics for 1 person to manage/Stitch isn't good enough at keys (my opinion) lol. Just bear with me...
You may notice that, while performing songs from XIII and onwards (especially when there are water drums), they play to a click track to have backing electronic tracks. EX: how else could there be keys on QWERTY/Damage Done this concert while Stitch does Water Drums? And sometimes, there are backing vocal tracks for Jeff as well (and I'm happy to note that he does not do that this concert).
When they do pre-XIII, they generally didn't play to a click because those songs weren't recorded to click, and that was when Shmotz came in and when Stitch actually did his electronics because there were no water drums. It was how they had performed the songs since the mid 90s. HOWEVER, notice how Solitaire/Unraveling in this concert starts pretty fast but ends up being pretty slow during the chorus: it's because they put the electronics on backing tracks because Stitch either isn't good enough at keys or there are just too many electronics for 1 person to manage, so they played to a click that didn't change tempo. Also, Before I Die is locked at a slower tempo than they have done before while there are some minute tempo changes in the original recording and earlier performances such as the videos of Ozzfest (2002).
*In my opinion*, it kinda sucks the soul out of performances of the older songs and they're now played slower than they have on previous tours and the tempo changes don't occur (though whether or not that's bad definitely is *subjective*; I like the songs being played faster and the tempo changes. It feels mad raw).
It's strange that BWOMP of all songs was not arranged to be played to a click at this show. But if you look at shows after Steve replaced Jeff where Bwomp IS performed (2019), they no longer do the several tempo changes that they did before ~2015 because now it's played to a click. The backing tracks arrangement just had to have been done. This doesn't necessarily explain why Bwomp specifically hadn't been arranged in this way for this concert, but this is a reason for why it may not have been. Maybe it felt weird at the time because there were so many natural tempo changes when performed live 2015 and prior.
This type of thing had been done before: if you look at the 2013 Rock Hard performance, you'll notice 43 is played at a consistent tempo, there are backing vocal tracks for Jeff, and there are electronic parts that aren't actually played by anyone because Stitch was playing water drums.
This is over a year later, but I wanted to post this for you and other Mushroomhead fans to see sort of the ramifications (good and bad) of playing to click for the electronics, Shmotz's departure, the water drums, Stitch not being good enough at keys, etc. Also it sucks that there are shows in the past when there were vocal tracks in the backing track and Jeff was singing under them (and if you don't believe me compare performances from 2010-2015 to this concert). No judgement, I don't know why it happened (voice problems? Skinny's insistence?) and I don't care because he still sung the XX and prior songs raw/put on a great show, but again it's SO nice to hear purely his voice in this concert; he's still got the magic 25 years later.
On this Tour Bwomp was not in the Standard setlist because they had the tracks that feature Jackie. On the European run 2017 where I attended 2 Shows they only performed Bwomp on a few Shows where Jackie couldn't take part.
is that Jeff nothing or the guy who filled in for him? sounds like the fill in guy
Food bank
31:13
That second drummer is leaps and bounds better then the first drummer. First drummer was woeful 😔
Jordan BEVAN that's skinny and he's getting old and has hip problems. He pretty much started the band so he's still in it and owns the rights to it. Second is roberto diablo, skinnys old drum tech that was asked to fill in on the water drums and then eventually drums because skinny needed to have surgery done (if i remember correctly) and halfway through shows they switch because his hips just can't do it for a whole show anymore.
@@tylerwilliams4927 We will compare them regardless of what you say
@@tylerwilliams4927 Diablo has more energy than skinny. AJ Alonzo knows whats up
why i feel that skinny drum playing is not perfect ..at all ..seems to much wrong hits of trigger .. not tight drumming as it should be
Gahhhhhh the vocals are sooooo weeeakkkk. Even in the studio it's pretty quiet and kinda powerless. But dammmmmmnnn they needed Waylon for this shit.
Сука почему у Джеффри голом как из задницы?
Старый уже
Ему уже под 60 чего ты ещё ждал?
Как бы это не настоящие грибоголовые
Это подделка
Как нахуй подделка? Ты о чем?
jeffrey nothing is a horrible singer
He was great before
Age mate.
Didn't Jeff leave the band? Why is he there? Someone explain me ;(
@@miguelrestrepo6049 he left after a year after this show
Tu no eres cantante asi que no opines