Susan Blackmore - What is it like to be a bat? and the problem of subjectivity (17/23)

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Born in 1951, Susan Blackmore is a British freelance writer, lecturer and broadcaster. Having graduated from St Hilda's College, Oxford with a degree in psychology and physiology, she went on to do postgraduate work in environmental psychology. In 1980, she gained a PhD in parapsychology. Her research on memes (which she wrote about in her popular book The Meme Machine) and evolutionary theory has contributed to the field of memetics. [Listener: Christopher Sykes; date recorded: 2000]

[@ValentineIbeka]

The problem of consciousness briefly and simply explained

[@RodrigoRebolledoR]

Sample this over an AFX track for superior subjective experience

[@stankolodin5586]

I wonder if eating a bat would help me understand what it's like to be a bat.

[@josephsykes1388]

oof. too soon

[@denissilajdzic1973]

Dualisms is just more objective staff

[@blessedinpeace]

Am I the only one trying to answer the hard question?

[@munns1101]

"Silly human," said the bat, "it's one of only two questions worth asking and answering. The other is the problem of free will. We all ask. We have no answers. Life is absurd."

[@eenkjet]

There is no hard problem.
The subjective does not "emerge from an object thing called the brain".
It emerges from a frequency space INSIDE of the brain.
In this way we are very very much like a bat.
Both scooping chunks of wave information (smell, air direction, sound, gravitational/pole) and placing our wingless sighted self INTO a bubble via grid cells (converting Fourier data to rate code) tracking our extremities in proportion TO this external frequency space.
That bubble is the interface between the external and the self, not a horizon, but a centricity as 3D space.
Our value based conversion OF the input data is the " : " between subject:object.

[@randyholdampf8320]

I don't think this works, physicalism or materialism meaning reduced to material including subjective experience itself physical cells are physical... knowing that these cells are used for proprioception or sense mapping is a objective understanding of how something works but does not give the experience of blue to blind people... even if you explain it objectively for instance frequency and so on the subjective experience can't be known to them.