The talent that is around him peaked with Jalen under center. The o line was ranked 7th in the league prior to Jalen coming under center. AJ just peaked above 1000 yards in TN, Jalen had him reach 1400+. Saquan had 2000+ yards in his first year with him. No need to give him credit, real fans see it!
@@Vinnyp1020 they both actually hit those numbers last year. Which is what they were referring to. Not pace, those are the numbers they finished with in 2023. You should delete those comments.
1000% the 2 runs against the rams and the opening td against the commanders, Jalen checked into all 3. Thats why Saquon was asking what side in that video vs the rams lol #1 all day baby 🦅🦅🦅
I think it’s telling that you’ve got Jason Kelce describing his value with detailed breakdowns. And his detractors simply go, nah…under 200 yards passing, AJ Brown isn’t happy. It’s all box score watching, narrative based noise.
So now you're discrediting the huge run for Barkley? Why doesn't Jalen change them more frequently then if it's that easy for Barkley to make those huge runs with Jalen making the changes?
If u look at the commanders game in week 16, the eagles were on the verge of destroying the commanders with Jalen playing. Once Jalen went down with a concussion, the offense scored one touchdown the rest of the game and that was a Saquon Barkley 70 yard touchdown. If Jalen played, that game isn’t close.
No one in the media has ever made the argument that Jalen Hurts is overrated. Greenberg is full of you know what. Since coming into the NFL, Jalen has been highly underrated and criticized. He was underrated with the University of Alabama, even though he's a 2017 champion and was especially overlooked once loose leaf Tua came into play. Jalen Hurts does exactly what he needs to do in order for his team to win.
Jalen Hurts will make the plays to win this Super Bowl, just like he always makes the plays he needs to make. The whole team will make their plays when they need to.
Hurts fumble 6 right before half says different + Mahomes was one 1 leg and still beat you lmaoo, the narrative that "Hurts outplayed Mahomes" is asinine and debunked EagLe stan 😅
@@samoavseverybody_814ummmm google is a thing, dude. Hurts had 304 passing yards with a TD, plus 70 yards rushing with 3 rush TDs. The fact that you believe Mahomes was “on one leg” tells me everything I need to know about you. You clearly drink the chiefs Koolaid and slob Pat’s knob. The only stan here is you believing that injury was legit. One fumble in the first half doesn’t change Hurts’ entire performance. Eagles defense giving up 38 points with another convenient bail out flag for KC (that’s turned into a weekly tradition for the chiefs) also doesn’t mean Mahomes played better cause he won.
Mahomes have this great start to his career partly because of the consistency at play calling... Hurts doesn't have that consistency but he makes it work he deserves a ton of credit
@ivantavarez1852 and makes it work... One thing I noticed is that with or without talent people will always find creative ways to poke holes in his game... Would you rather have him suck with the talent that he has? Like I said he makes it work.
Josh Allen put his cape back on and tried to win the game by himself, play calling didn't help. Cooks had 85 yards on 13 carries but took him out the game
Is that even a question? People say because of the amount talent is why Jalen is under appreciated. But people have to understand no matter how much talent if QB doesn't play well usually the team flatters doesn't matter how much talent they have. This is why he should be given his flowers.
jalen hurts is the most consistent qb in the league lol. Yeah some games he won't throw for more than 200 yards, maybe that's because he's only throwing it 20 times. look at his game against the steelers he threw 290 but he had 32 pass attempts. look at the nfc title game he threw for 240 but he had 28 attempts. then look at the wild card and divisional and in those he threw 130, but he only had 20 pass attempts. that's how math works lol the more you throw the ball the more yards you'll have.
Hurts is top 3 in every stat FROM THE POCKET since 2022, is top 2 most clutch by every metric behind Mahomes, doesn’t turn the ball over, has a top 2 deep ball, and is 1 of the best scrambler of all time. It is comical that media/fans try to discredit him. He’s carried a lame duck offensive HC his entire career too btw, give him Andy Reid and watch what happens
@@stopcampin4097**advanced stats from the pocket. Has around a 120 passer rating from the pocket and like 125 against the blitz. Also his efficiency from the pocket as well
@@stopcampin4097asking about passing yards or tds when he throws the least is just idiotic and lazy. He should have less yards and tds than everyone, he throws less than everyone
For posterity.. wtf is going on the slobbing on the Chiefs is wild lmao. 2 super bowls in 4 years, and some say played better in the first bowl than Pat.. Dude understands how to win; hand to Sa W, if he has to throw nails it. Like come on man give the guy credit.
I mean he’s managing the game. He ain’t turning the ball over. What more do yall want. If the moment calls for him to be great then he has to make plays but if they can run the ball effectively, he just has to make the play. It’s like they want him to go 40/40 for 600 yds and 9 tds
Comments are crazy. Y’all act like this criticism for Hurts is coming out of nowhere. He had 7 turnovers in 4 games this year. They hit a bye week and then turn their offense to a run first offense with Saquon. Jalen Hurts is surrounded by great talent everywhere. He’s an athletic game manager that is surrounded by great talent.
Asking if the eagles can keep winning for 20 weeks is a joke. No one says he’s an elite thrower. But people act like he hasn’t been asked to win games or throw. Coverage of him had been uneven for him even tho he’s gotten farther than others. He took a last place decent to the playoffs. Burrow didn’t and he’s has chase. Higgins.
He has a different offensive coordinator every year of his career and been to the playoffs every time. There is no preseason to learn anything. Please, if you are going to talk about a cat have all the facts.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76oh so you're just going to say Burrow has all this offensive talent and ignore Hurts team has that and this year we're the number 1 defense
He's the LEADER. Yes he's underappreciated. In five years the Eagles are going to they're second Superbowl. And before anyone says that the team is stacked or Saquan this, o line that, when they need him to step up he delivers!
A lot of teams can learn from the eagles in play complimentary footballl. Time has proven half these NFL QBs are mediocre but for some reason these coaches keep making them throw it 30/40 times a game increasing the amount of turnovers. In a world of analytics how do they not know simple common sense 😂
Jalen has to make a statement or after the SB, win or lose, the conversation will stay the same as it is now! If he can go out and lead them to a victory, like true good QBs do, the conversation and tag on him will change.. this might be the biggest game of his career! Alot can change depending on how he looks in this game, for good or bad!
So much hate and disrespect to Jalen for not needing to throw for over 150 yards its crazy. But when another QB does it their praise for it for not throwing excessively. Hurts just win game like crazy and he is been unappreciated.
Which QBs are consistently throwing 150 yds or less besides Hurts. His burden is not the same as others who have to be Superman for them to win , he can be ok and still win
@@ivantavarez1852none of the other top 10 qbs needs to be “superman” to win. They all have good teams around them. Its just bad coaching if you’re throwing 40 times a game.
Jalen Hurts: 🏈69.68% Career Winning Percentage (NFL) 🏈2X Conference Champion (NFC) 🏈1X NCAA Champion 🏈1X MVP Finalist (NFL) 🏈1X Heisman Finalist (NCAA) 🏈1X NFL All-Pro Selection 🏈1X NCAA All-American 🏈2X Pro Bowl Selection If you're having a hard time giving proper credit to a player with those achievements then [perhaps] you are suffering from either: (a) poor analytical skills; and/or (b) bias. Good News = you can improve both by evaluating these players equally. Please give it a try, everybody (especially *_NFL on ESPN_* ; *_Get Up_* ; and *_First Take_* ). Thank You.
Patrick Mahomes. 2 MVPs, 2nd highest winning percentage in history, 3 Rings, 3 SB MVPs. Jalen Hurts is an amazing qb, Patrick is already legendary. I don't think adding college stats helps your arguments. Jalen didn't even win the national championship game, Tua had to replace him because he was not playing well. I recommend you stick with NFL stats. Patrick has been the the AFC championship game every year he has been the starter. Jalen is not close to Patrick but that's ok. Nobody else is except Brady and Montana.
Advanced metrics say he’s a top 5 QB from the pocket since 2022 but these media pundits would tell you to keep him inside the pocket because he can’t throw. These dude literally controls the game from start to finish and he is the system but won’t get credit. He’s not above criticism but he’s been overly criticized to a sickening degree. If this was Joe Burrow or Justin, they would be praising them to no end!!!
Every monster QB contract is to do your part to get to the postseason then play mistake free elite level once there. If he plays that way then win or lose the criticism is undeserved. If not then it absolutely is.
He just didn’t need to be discredited each week is all. Not asking for him to be called a one man show. Each win has been framed different than other qbs. After 20 weeks maybe it’s yall.
Fun fact Jalen Hurts has a higher passer rating this year than he did in his MVP calibre season. Didnt 75% of this panel predict the Eagles to lose to Washington? The Eagles won by 32 points
Jalen was perfectly consistent in his passing game. It doesn’t have to be fireworks because the running game is so good. Consistent passing isn’t big numbers all the time, it’s minimizing turnovers and making the plays that win you the game.
No he actually did tell you so. You guys are the ones criticizing the way the 🦅 win. Out here gassing up mediocre Quarterbacks who don’t win. Yall need to stop the bs and face the fact that Jalen is better than your favorite Quarterback no matter how you try to slice it. Man tf up he made all of you eat your words and bad criticism. Sorry to say the jokes on you pal 😂
Jalen has quietly become a great field general that has made some really important changes at the line after diagnosing the defense which has resulted in significant gains and/or TD's
Anyone who actually knows football, saw that when hurts was out, kellen switched to a more traditional passing offense with pickett and mckee. Mostly under center, more vertical passing routes. With Hurts and barkley in the game, kellen has a playbook that is more RPO, play action style. Shotgun and pistol, that way hurts can use the RPO better. And im sure kellen is hiding alot of the plays because they havent needed to use them with the way they run the ball. If sirianni and moore didnt have confidence in jalen, they wouldnt be having him pass for 31 yards to AJ by the sideline on a 4th and 5. Thats a tough pass to make and he dropped a dime to AJ. 98% of teams wouldve punted. Except maybe redskins, chiefs, bills and ravens, and of course the eagles.
If mixon and cook can almost get 100 yards before the offense stop giving them the ball why does Tannenbaum think they Saquon is gonna get less than 100 yards this dude is a clown
Man Jalen Hurts is so ez to root for and this is coming from a pats fan, goes all the way back to his days in Alabama when he was benched and replaced by tua, I think if he wins the Super Bowl and has another really good game, you almost have to put him in the discussion of the top QBs in the nfl, yes the eagles have a great team but it’s really Jalen’s ability to keep defenses on their heals with his pin point pass and obviously his ability to run, I’m hoping he can make his mark on history and be the first of his generation of qbs other than Mahomes to get a ring lol
So if Hurts and Barkley each run 99 yards, Spags in 19 games w/o a 100yd rusher…. That’s a meaningless stat. Hurts had 85 in 2022. The issue was KC got the final possession. The offense wasn’t lacking.
Cook rushed for 85 yards and 2 touchdowns on only 13 carries, 6.5 yards per rush last week against the chiefs. The bills win that game if they keep rushing. Now you wanna tell me that same chief defense is gonna keep Saquon in check?
I hate the eagles and chiefs like most people 😂😂, but I have to admit that hurts has a winning mentality and he is not afraid of legends and the big stage. That's his great asset although he is not spectacular as a quarterback
These bozos on this panel every day arent worth listening to. They are definition of Monday Morning QB's. They jump on and off bandwagons of players and teams almost weekly. Just because some of them played game doesn't make them experts. It's laughable to call them that.
Hurts living in the head rent free of every national media member 🤣! Right up there as the second best QB on planet earth with a chance to make Mahomes look average in two Super Bowls
Next year the only starting qbs in the league that will have been to multiple super bowls will be Jalen and Mahomes. Joe Burrow and Stafford will be the only other qbs who have been to one
Who’s calling the audibles? Just a question lol cause if you watch the game my boy Jalen like Payton + Ben put together he definitely deserves more credit ppl don’t notice that but I do he changes plays and leads the O
If you have to ask that question then it’s final the media does not want to admit they were wrong about Jalen…it’s okay to be wrong but what the narrative has been is diabolical
@@princejellyfish3945Yes, your correct. Troy Aikman was the glue for those Cowboy teams. Troy is as of right now a much better QB. Hurts has a lot of time to challenge Troy's career but he needs 3 rings before this conversation is going anywhere.
Greeny needed Kelce to realize that lol after asking if eagles could keep winning with hurts for 20 weeks. Do we see miles sanders having 1000 yd seasons since leaving?
Plus Eli Manning got carried by a defense and running game and had TWO LUCKY GAMES and he is a first ballot hall of famer. By your standard FOLES is a hall of famer. Just not first ballot.
the Chiefs got this SB victory again btw on the same team they defeated a few yrs ago but diss tyme KC has different weapons w/ tha addition uv some new toy's really Philly doesn't have enuff Defense 2 hold off the Chief's, I'm not a Chiefs fan but I'm definietly going against da Eagles so i could troll my homeboy n da rest of dem Philly fans who think they're going 2 win; Not Going To Happen
KC has never faced anyone like Saquon before and the Chiefs offense isn’t better than it was 2 years ago. Eagles have the #1 ranked defense in the NFL so be careful what you wish for
@@matt13r1They got Reid, Mahomes & Spags. That's all they'll need to beat phiLLy. I'll take the guys that have actually DONE IT before, and multiple times lil buddy 😅
Jalen hurts is above average . But average with an elite team will have you thinking he is elite as well . Stats are foot notes . The eye test says . He cannot elevate his team . He could not lead a franchise without elite talent around him . Ie lebron type . Jordan type . Thats reserved for those types . Elite means if you dont have Saquan and Brown etc can you get it done . That is a no . If you read this . Read with no emotion philly fans . He is above average . A good player but not great and definitely not elite .
Jalen keeping the lights on for these networks lol
Can't keep his name out their mouths!
Facts 😂
Right 😂 bunch of beta geeks who could only dream of being a guy like hurts
I know, right? The guy wins…the disrespect makes no sense
Nah That’s the cowboys that do that
The talent that is around him peaked with Jalen under center. The o line was ranked 7th in the league prior to Jalen coming under center. AJ just peaked above 1000 yards in TN, Jalen had him reach 1400+. Saquan had 2000+ yards in his first year with him. No need to give him credit, real fans see it!
@@Vinnyp1020 they both actually hit those numbers last year. Which is what they were referring to. Not pace, those are the numbers they finished with in 2023. You should delete those comments.
@@davidharrisiii3062 I thought this was a diss towards Jalen. That’s on me lol
1000% the 2 runs against the rams and the opening td against the commanders, Jalen checked into all 3. Thats why Saquon was asking what side in that video vs the rams lol #1 all day baby 🦅🦅🦅
1st play Barkley scored, a play Jalen changed
Not sure why no one realized he audibled prior to change for that Barkley run, lol.
@walea.4702 lol, they just choose not to
I think it’s telling that you’ve got Jason Kelce describing his value with detailed breakdowns. And his detractors simply go, nah…under 200 yards passing, AJ Brown isn’t happy. It’s all box score watching, narrative based noise.
@@jay3414ESPN analysts don’t watch the games. They repeat producer talking points.
So now you're discrediting the huge run for Barkley?
Why doesn't Jalen change them more frequently then if it's that easy for Barkley to make those huge runs with Jalen making the changes?
If u look at the commanders game in week 16, the eagles were on the verge of destroying the commanders with Jalen playing. Once Jalen went down with a concussion, the offense scored one touchdown the rest of the game and that was a Saquon Barkley 70 yard touchdown. If Jalen played, that game isn’t close.
The only criticism is "passing yards under 200 = bad quarterback" for these people
Only when it's Hurts though. They applauded Josh for 126 against the Ravens.
@@imilly8179had 2 rush tds don’t forget to add that to your sad argument
@@stopcampin4097 just proves my point. Jalen does it every week and they criticize him. Josh did it and y'all applaude him.
@@stopcampin4097 Doesn't that make him a "running back?"
@@crowfather0249 no the “running back” you’re trying to say is Lamar he threw a pic and fumbled the ball again in the postseason
It’s no coincidence that the 2 running backs who had by FAR the most yards had mobile QBs
Exactly 💯
Jalen Hurts has been to a SB without Barkley, they keep forgetting to mention that
Big facts
Dan hate for Philly Sports is crazy. I have no clue why he’s on the show though. Him and Greeny have a thing i guess
😂 ☠️ he thinks hes subtle but hes not.
No one in the media has ever made the argument that Jalen Hurts is overrated. Greenberg is full of you know what. Since coming into the NFL, Jalen has been highly underrated and criticized. He was underrated with the University of Alabama, even though he's a 2017 champion and was especially overlooked once loose leaf Tua came into play. Jalen Hurts does exactly what he needs to do in order for his team to win.
Preach
We’ll Micah Parsons… technically media, started the overrated conversation publicly in 2022… “is it Hurts, or is it the team”.
But Chtis Simms said.... 🙄
all i know is that lamar, josh, joe, dak, jared, jordan, matthew, sam, tua, purdy, baker, jayden is not in the superbowl, THEY FAILED!!!!!
Week 16 literally proves how important Jalen is to the team and Saquon’s success this year.
Assuming Saquon is held in check? 😂😂 that hasn’t happened all season but ok try your luck
@@marleycoldburr remember those African fellas are famous for not winning Superbowls because they fold like lawn chairs 🚬🧐
What’s funny before every playoff game the media assured everyone ______ would stop Saquon and they can’t
@ apparently spags is going to use some black magic that he saved from letting James Cook get off against the Bills 😂😂
@@marleycoldburrwhich is crazy cause cook had 85 on 15 carries which is respectable
@@BrittleDrop573 13 carries 85 yards 2TDs + 3 catches for 49 yards
The way they disrespect QB’s like Lamar and Jalen hurts… yet… glaze uncontrollably for Josh Allen & Joe burrow is ABSURD. I wonder why tho 🤔
Jalen Hurts will make the plays to win this Super Bowl, just like he always makes the plays he needs to make. The whole team will make their plays when they need to.
We just going forget how QB1 outplayed yall Golden Boy in 2022??? Oh how we forget… We going remind yall🦅🦅🦅🐺#LETSHUNT
The African nightmare will go full African and fold like a lawn chair 🚬😉
YOU AIN'T NEVER LIED 💯
Hurts fumble 6 right before half says different + Mahomes was one 1 leg and still beat you lmaoo, the narrative that "Hurts outplayed Mahomes" is asinine and debunked EagLe stan 😅
@@samoavseverybody_814ummmm google is a thing, dude. Hurts had 304 passing yards with a TD, plus 70 yards rushing with 3 rush TDs. The fact that you believe Mahomes was “on one leg” tells me everything I need to know about you. You clearly drink the chiefs Koolaid and slob Pat’s knob. The only stan here is you believing that injury was legit. One fumble in the first half doesn’t change Hurts’ entire performance. Eagles defense giving up 38 points with another convenient bail out flag for KC (that’s turned into a weekly tradition for the chiefs) also doesn’t mean Mahomes played better cause he won.
@@samoavseverybody_814I can’t even take you serious
serious question ... does anyone like grazino?
nah this guys an idiot
😅😅
Hate him
Nope absolutely hate him
No. Why do they keep putting him on tv?
Jalen Hurts is #1
Best QB in the league
Mahomes have this great start to his career partly because of the consistency at play calling...
Hurts doesn't have that consistency but he makes it work he deserves a ton of credit
No but he's had a top 5 O-Line since he came into the league tho. His teams have been loaded with talent
@ivantavarez1852 and makes it work...
One thing I noticed is that with or without talent people will always find creative ways to poke holes in his game...
Would you rather have him suck with the talent that he has?
Like I said he makes it work.
How is he inconsistent the eagles only ask him to do so much because saquan a animal and when Jalen has to pass he does it at an elite level .
Dude throws absolute dots when needed its crazy people cant see that
Josh Allen put his cape back on and tried to win the game by himself, play calling didn't help. Cooks had 85 yards on 13 carries but took him out the game
Is that even a question? People say because of the amount talent is why Jalen is under appreciated. But people have to understand no matter how much talent if QB doesn't play well usually the team flatters doesn't matter how much talent they have. This is why he should be given his flowers.
jalen hurts is the most consistent qb in the league lol. Yeah some games he won't throw for more than 200 yards, maybe that's because he's only throwing it 20 times. look at his game against the steelers he threw 290 but he had 32 pass attempts. look at the nfc title game he threw for 240 but he had 28 attempts. then look at the wild card and divisional and in those he threw 130, but he only had 20 pass attempts. that's how math works lol the more you throw the ball the more yards you'll have.
Hurts is top 3 in every stat FROM THE POCKET since 2022, is top 2 most clutch by every metric behind Mahomes, doesn’t turn the ball over, has a top 2 deep ball, and is 1 of the best scrambler of all time. It is comical that media/fans try to discredit him. He’s carried a lame duck offensive HC his entire career too btw, give him Andy Reid and watch what happens
What’s them passing yds and pass tds look like this season pimp?? Baker mayfield was better than him statistically pipe down
@@stopcampin4097**advanced stats from the pocket. Has around a 120 passer rating from the pocket and like 125 against the blitz. Also his efficiency from the pocket as well
@@justo2640 you gonna answer my question?
@@stopcampin4097asking about passing yards or tds when he throws the least is just idiotic and lazy. He should have less yards and tds than everyone, he throws less than everyone
Sounds like a pregame excuse for losing.
Graziano will say anything but give Hurts credit “and for that reason , we can’t give credit to any one player, it’s everyone “ 😂
For posterity.. wtf is going on the slobbing on the Chiefs is wild lmao. 2 super bowls in 4 years, and some say played better in the first bowl than Pat.. Dude understands how to win; hand to Sa W, if he has to throw nails it. Like come on man give the guy credit.
I believe the recognition and praise KC receives is earned by sustained excellence.
I mean he’s managing the game. He ain’t turning the ball over. What more do yall want. If the moment calls for him to be great then he has to make plays but if they can run the ball effectively, he just has to make the play. It’s like they want him to go 40/40 for 600 yds and 9 tds
Peyton Manning was a game manager in his last Super Bowl. The man couldn’t throw it. Nothing but praise for him though.
Comments are crazy. Y’all act like this criticism for Hurts is coming out of nowhere. He had 7 turnovers in 4 games this year. They hit a bye week and then turn their offense to a run first offense with Saquon.
Jalen Hurts is surrounded by great talent everywhere.
He’s an athletic game manager that is surrounded by great talent.
Asking if the eagles can keep winning for 20 weeks is a joke. No one says he’s an elite thrower. But people act like he hasn’t been asked to win games or throw. Coverage of him had been uneven for him even tho he’s gotten farther than others. He took a last place decent to the playoffs. Burrow didn’t and he’s has chase. Higgins.
He has a different offensive coordinator every year of his career and been to the playoffs every time. There is no preseason to learn anything. Please, if you are going to talk about a cat have all the facts.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76oh so you're just going to say Burrow has all this offensive talent and ignore Hurts team has that and this year we're the number 1 defense
nobody gives a fxck , we in the bowl 🦅
JALEN H1M HURTS IS THE BEST QB IN THE ENTIRE NFC 🦅🦅🏆🏆
He's the LEADER. Yes he's underappreciated. In five years the Eagles are going to they're second Superbowl. And before anyone says that the team is stacked or Saquan this, o line that, when they need him to step up he delivers!
The team is stacked dude, that O-Line gives him all the time in the world to make plays
Jalen tush push to start the Super Bowl would be so Nick 😂
A lot of teams can learn from the eagles in play complimentary footballl. Time has proven half these NFL QBs are mediocre but for some reason these coaches keep making them throw it 30/40 times a game increasing the amount of turnovers. In a world of analytics how do they not know simple common sense 😂
Jalen has to make a statement or after the SB, win or lose, the conversation will stay the same as it is now! If he can go out and lead them to a victory, like true good QBs do, the conversation and tag on him will change.. this might be the biggest game of his career! Alot can change depending on how he looks in this game, for good or bad!
So much hate and disrespect to Jalen for not needing to throw for over 150 yards its crazy. But when another QB does it their praise for it for not throwing excessively. Hurts just win game like crazy and he is been unappreciated.
Which QBs are consistently throwing 150 yds or less besides Hurts. His burden is not the same as others who have to be Superman for them to win , he can be ok and still win
@@ivantavarez1852none of the other top 10 qbs needs to be “superman” to win. They all have good teams around them. Its just bad coaching if you’re throwing 40 times a game.
Is Jalen the only quarterback in the league who had bad games?
His games wasn’t even bad, just not how they liked it
ESPN has done this every week after the eagles win they have nothing to talk about at all pathetic takes and get graziano of the tv he is so unlikable
Jalen Hurts:
🏈69.68% Career Winning Percentage (NFL)
🏈2X Conference Champion (NFC)
🏈1X NCAA Champion
🏈1X MVP Finalist (NFL)
🏈1X Heisman Finalist (NCAA)
🏈1X NFL All-Pro Selection
🏈1X NCAA All-American
🏈2X Pro Bowl Selection
If you're having a hard time giving proper credit to a player with those achievements then [perhaps] you are suffering from either:
(a) poor analytical skills; and/or
(b) bias.
Good News = you can improve both by evaluating these players equally.
Please give it a try, everybody (especially *_NFL on ESPN_* ; *_Get Up_* ; and *_First Take_* ).
Thank You.
Patrick Mahomes. 2 MVPs, 2nd highest winning percentage in history, 3 Rings, 3 SB MVPs. Jalen Hurts is an amazing qb, Patrick is already legendary. I don't think adding college stats helps your arguments. Jalen didn't even win the national championship game, Tua had to replace him because he was not playing well. I recommend you stick with NFL stats. Patrick has been the the AFC championship game every year he has been the starter. Jalen is not close to Patrick but that's ok. Nobody else is except Brady and Montana.
Advanced metrics say he’s a top 5 QB from the pocket since 2022 but these media pundits would tell you to keep him inside the pocket because he can’t throw. These dude literally controls the game from start to finish and he is the system but won’t get credit. He’s not above criticism but he’s been overly criticized to a sickening degree. If this was Joe Burrow or Justin, they would be praising them to no end!!!
eagles are going to win in a blowout
Every monster QB contract is to do your part to get to the postseason then play mistake free elite level once there. If he plays that way then win or lose the criticism is undeserved. If not then it absolutely is.
Yes Jalen is the quarterback.
Overrated just because he is a African fella 🚬😳
He just didn’t need to be discredited each week is all. Not asking for him to be called a one man show. Each win has been framed different than other qbs. After 20 weeks maybe it’s yall.
Yes my qb needs more credit his is amazing he does alot no way he gets down played fly eagles fly 🦅
ESPN has no clue that there are 51 other players on the eagles roster other than Hurts and Saquon.
Jalen makes it easier for Saquon because defenses have to account for him as a runner. You can't just key in on Saquon.
Jalen has had 6 different OCs in 6 years and *STILL* has a winning record.....yall have him living rent-free in media pundits heads
Fun fact Jalen Hurts has a higher passer rating this year than he did in his MVP calibre season.
Didnt 75% of this panel predict the Eagles to lose to Washington? The Eagles won by 32 points
He consistently wins. Hes won 13 games straight that hes played
They talk like he hasn’t thrown the ball ever to win lol step outside his comfort zone? Smh
Jalen was perfectly consistent in his passing game. It doesn’t have to be fireworks because the running game is so good. Consistent passing isn’t big numbers all the time, it’s minimizing turnovers and making the plays that win you the game.
So Jalen has to win a superbowl and Jackson and Allen can't even get in the championship game and you glaze them. You guys are terrible.
Hurts opened himself up to criticism? All year? What is Dan talking about
No he actually did tell you so. You guys are the ones criticizing the way the 🦅 win. Out here gassing up mediocre Quarterbacks who don’t win. Yall need to stop the bs and face the fact that Jalen is better than your favorite Quarterback no matter how you try to slice it. Man tf up he made all of you eat your words and bad criticism. Sorry to say the jokes on you pal 😂
Jalen has quietly become a great field general that has made some really important changes at the line after diagnosing the defense which has resulted in significant gains and/or TD's
Anyone who actually knows football, saw that when hurts was out, kellen switched to a more traditional passing offense with pickett and mckee. Mostly under center, more vertical passing routes.
With Hurts and barkley in the game, kellen has a playbook that is more RPO, play action style. Shotgun and pistol, that way hurts can use the RPO better. And im sure kellen is hiding alot of the plays because they havent needed to use them with the way they run the ball.
If sirianni and moore didnt have confidence in jalen, they wouldnt be having him pass for 31 yards to AJ by the sideline on a 4th and 5. Thats a tough pass to make and he dropped a dime to AJ. 98% of teams wouldve punted. Except maybe redskins, chiefs, bills and ravens, and of course the eagles.
I haven't heard this type of talk about a player since Miami LeBron and Kobe when Shaq left 😂 Jalen is destined for greatness.
Same way 26 is a big part of our passing when it comes to blocking.
If mixon and cook can almost get 100 yards before the offense stop giving them the ball why does Tannenbaum think they Saquon is gonna get less than 100 yards this dude is a clown
Jalen helping Saquon isnt just because of his running ability tho. The 2 rams tds and that first td vs wsh, Jalen checked into all 3 of those
Man Jalen Hurts is so ez to root for and this is coming from a pats fan, goes all the way back to his days in Alabama when he was benched and replaced by tua, I think if he wins the Super Bowl and has another really good game, you almost have to put him in the discussion of the top QBs in the nfl, yes the eagles have a great team but it’s really Jalen’s ability to keep defenses on their heals with his pin point pass and obviously his ability to run, I’m hoping he can make his mark on history and be the first of his generation of qbs other than Mahomes to get a ring lol
Hurts is a winner. That's what they gonna say at his hall of fame introduction
So if Hurts and Barkley each run 99 yards, Spags in 19 games w/o a 100yd rusher…. That’s a meaningless stat. Hurts had 85 in 2022. The issue was KC got the final possession. The offense wasn’t lacking.
Everyone swears Barkley will be stopped, as if the Eagles haven't faced better rushing defenses and still run for 140
Cook rushed for 85 yards and 2 touchdowns on only 13 carries, 6.5 yards per rush last week against the chiefs. The bills win that game if they keep rushing. Now you wanna tell me that same chief defense is gonna keep Saquon in check?
I read absolutely everything I can about football and I can't find the Hurts is OVER rated take anywhere.
It just gets funnier when these dudes keep says i don't think this team is gonna let saquan beat you. They act like they have a choice
I hate the eagles and chiefs like most people 😂😂, but I have to admit that hurts has a winning mentality and he is not afraid of legends and the big stage. That's his great asset although he is not spectacular as a quarterback
These 4 hate the Eagles. And the Eagles fans hate all them.
These bozos on this panel every day arent worth listening to. They are definition of Monday Morning QB's. They jump on and off bandwagons of players and teams almost weekly. Just because some of them played game doesn't make them experts. It's laughable to call them that.
Hurts living in the head rent free of every national media member 🤣! Right up there as the second best QB on planet earth with a chance to make Mahomes look average in two Super Bowls
The Eagles and Jalen hate is real.
step out of his comfort zone? hes QB1 for a reason lol, yall gotta stop
Every DC comes in with the same mindset! Stop Saquon. Mixon and Cook both were above their season averages. Cook went 13/85. They stopped running.
What's the point of asking this question on the show that has most unfairly criticized Jalen?! FFS
Xavier worthy ain’t doing nothing against the eagles maybe Darius slay would get burned by his speed but quinyon would put him in a cell 0:12
man y is they talking about anybody's run game when talking bout Philly, saquon just different this year from anybody else
they cant STAND seeing the eagles success.
Why pass the ball 40 times when you have a RB like SAQUAN
The guys that hate the most had the worse careers lmao no coincidence there 😂😂
Next year the only starting qbs in the league that will have been to multiple super bowls will be Jalen and Mahomes. Joe Burrow and Stafford will be the only other qbs who have been to one
Hey Mike our defense was okay not good during the bye too but okay.
I hope reaching the Super Bowl was the plan all along and that’s the reason why the Eagles haven’t run any play action all season… LoL
Every quarterback this season had a few weeks off
Apriciacant be overrated when ur constantly hated on
Keep hating. Hurts keeps winning.
Who’s calling the audibles? Just a question lol cause if you watch the game my boy Jalen like Payton + Ben put together he definitely deserves more credit ppl don’t notice that but I do he changes plays and leads the O
If you have to ask that question then it’s final the media does not want to admit they were wrong about Jalen…it’s okay to be wrong but what the narrative has been is diabolical
Take a look at Superbowl 57 quarterback statistics.
Jalen out here playing better than Prime Teoy Aikman weak ahh. But gets so much disrespect
BS. Troy Aikman is better than Jalen. It's obvious you are not old enough to have watched Troy play.
@@stevejohnson7026Troy had one of the most stacked rosters of all time too
@@princejellyfish3945Yes, your correct. Troy Aikman was the glue for those Cowboy teams. Troy is as of right now a much better QB. Hurts has a lot of time to challenge Troy's career but he needs 3 rings before this conversation is going anywhere.
Greeny needed Kelce to realize that lol after asking if eagles could keep winning with hurts for 20 weeks. Do we see miles sanders having 1000 yd seasons since leaving?
This eagles offensive line is loaded with 4 all pros what are you talking about
No corner on the chiefs can guard AJ or Devonte one on one
Trent Mcduffie can and will.
QB1 for t he win!
Dan is clueless. He only studied up on one team. Eagles never have long drives I guess lol
If the Nfl doesn't rig this game no way KC wins...keep the refs out of the game and then let's see if it's REAL...
Plus Eli Manning got carried by a defense and running game and had TWO LUCKY GAMES and he is a first ballot hall of famer. By your standard FOLES is a hall of famer. Just not first ballot.
How is it lucky when you do it multiple times ?
Eli Manning is not a HOF caliber player. He might get in by his 2 rings, but he should not get enshrined.
Who cares about the narratives you people create. You get it wrong every single time anyway lmao
Rent free
Dan is a clown
4 clowns
Y'all will turn the African nightmare into the victim when swifty nation treats him like he broke eggs 🚬🧐
Tf are you even saying?
@BlkFreakozoid he's just another racist fliptard
This guy always posts racist comments. TH-cam won't do anything about him.
the Chiefs got this SB victory again btw on the same team they defeated a few yrs ago but diss tyme KC has different weapons w/ tha addition uv some new toy's really Philly doesn't have enuff Defense 2 hold off the Chief's, I'm not a Chiefs fan but I'm definietly going against da Eagles so i could troll my homeboy n da rest of dem Philly fans who think they're going 2 win; Not Going To Happen
KC has never faced anyone like Saquon before and the Chiefs offense isn’t better than it was 2 years ago.
Eagles have the #1 ranked defense in the NFL so be careful what you wish for
@@matt13r1the Chiefs beat a more loaded 49ers team last year.
@@JDGarza824 Chiefs have never faced a team with the #1 defense in the Super Bowl before. They also don’t have a strong WR core
@@matt13r1 YEA, YEA, YEA Philly will lose again
@@matt13r1They got Reid, Mahomes & Spags. That's all they'll need to beat phiLLy. I'll take the guys that have actually DONE IT before, and multiple times lil buddy 😅
Jalen hurts is above average . But average with an elite team will have you thinking he is elite as well . Stats are foot notes . The eye test says . He cannot elevate his team . He could not lead a franchise without elite talent around him . Ie lebron type . Jordan type . Thats reserved for those types . Elite means if you dont have Saquan and Brown etc can you get it done . That is a no .
If you read this . Read with no emotion philly fans . He is above average . A good player but not great and definitely not elite .