It's exponential. At black belt, 1st .. that's 2 years about. At 2nd Degree, a good 2 or 3 years. At 3rd, 3 years. 4th, Add 4 or 5. 5th, 5 years. So joint care becomes everything. It's longevity training.
They have a lot of different meanings. Every uniform has the ATA patch on the right side of the chest. You may choose to have a school specific patch on the left side. On either arm there is a patch that can vary from person to person. This one has the songahm star patches, others might have ATA legacy, masters can choose to have a master's patch. The patches on the bottom of the right sleeve denote the level of judging certification for tournaments. The back of the uniform has ATA in the middle and the name on the bottom. If the person has a district, state, or world championship, that will be displayed at the top of the back, if not it will just say "taekwondo"
A 7 isn't that much of a deviation from the other two judges who gave her 8's. If one of those judges scored a 5 and the others scored her 8's and 9's, then I would be raising an eyebrow.
the judges each have a section of the form to judge on, one judge judges the hand technique, another judges the footwork, and the last on judges overall.
It certainly is a better test of skill than the WTF forms, or probably the ITF forms, for that matter. From white belt through all the degrees of dan, Songahm forms increase in length, complexity and difficulty of individual techniques and technique combinations.
Tae Kwon do is only good for the kicks. If you go through the system to get a blackbelt its so useless and inefficient.. once you learn the kicks move on to a different style
>_^ It takes time to get the kicks down. Kicks need control balance and power but you also need to stretch every day to maintain the flexibility needed for higher kicks. Blackbelt means you've gotten the basics down and can apply them (same with judo) and it takes about 4-5 years to obtain a blackbelt in the style (took me 5). Taekwondo is a good base to learn other striking arts. A blackbelt also shows dedication. Most likely, if you have a blackbelt in one art, you're more likely to learn another art to fill in what you need work on. No art has it all. There are many mma practioners that at one point started with taekwondo or karate then transitioned over.
@@paulgorman2801 Agreed. But I mean the system is so inefficient. You take classes once or twice a week for many years. While you practice and polish the entire form which includes punches. If you took the kicks and stretches, and practiced the kicks 4-5 times a week or daily. You'd have a blackbelt's kick in half the time. Tae kwon do is known for their kicks. So its much more time efficient to learn something for punching and striking separately or at the same time.
@@derek8400 agreed, tkd is now known for their kicks because of wtf tkd. that’s why I prefer itf, traditional tkd since they focus a lot on punches, similar to kickboxing.
@@deborahzafar4176 lol.. explain the bunkai my friend.. explain it ! She shows no power in her techniques.. so.. ok.. I'll wait for it. I'm a black belt too.. and I didn't pay for it.. I worked for it.. here is the difference !
@@joestabbin7003 Everyone has their own strengths and if you were attacking her you would feel the power, however when showing techniques full power is not required. I would never speak negatively about your abilities as a black belt as I have never seen you in action. You have also never seen me in action so you could not possibly know what I am capable of. As I prepare to achieve my 4th degree Black Belt in a few months I have worked my butt off and learned many lessons. One of the most important is to control my power, as unless I'm in a life and death situation it is not my goal to injure others which I assure you I have the power to do. I have also learned to not let people like you who hide behind a keyboard and insult others for no reason to bother me this is not my idea of a Black Belt attitude or a behavior I teach my students. So any future remarks in my direction would be a waste of your time as my time is to valuable to waste.
First of all, it's not karate, its taekwondo. I've done both, and I know in karate - starting with the te-waza through all the kata, demonstrating power is key. With Competition poomsae, power, I think, is less important than technical perfection. If it were a belt grading, it would be different.
She is the perfect one to watch as I am learning this form. Technically superior.
It's time for me to learn the form as well.
Shes amazing!
8-8-7. Transitional points require strengthening.
So, how long does it take to get 5th degree BB? I've been out of it so long, I don't remember anymore.
It's exponential. At black belt, 1st .. that's 2 years about. At 2nd Degree, a good 2 or 3 years. At 3rd, 3 years. 4th, Add 4 or 5. 5th, 5 years. So joint care becomes everything. It's longevity training.
Great form.
why wear so many patches on uniform ?
As someone who does ATA I never understood why either I would assume each one shows a different level of honor
to show different rankings,school name, and tournament badges
They have a lot of different meanings. Every uniform has the ATA patch on the right side of the chest. You may choose to have a school specific patch on the left side. On either arm there is a patch that can vary from person to person. This one has the songahm star patches, others might have ATA legacy, masters can choose to have a master's patch. The patches on the bottom of the right sleeve denote the level of judging certification for tournaments. The back of the uniform has ATA in the middle and the name on the bottom. If the person has a district, state, or world championship, that will be displayed at the top of the back, if not it will just say "taekwondo"
I am a pre black belt
Did you get your 1st or 2nd dan yet? Don't stop, persevere and keep going! 👍 👍
She needs more power in her techniques.
That was a low score from judge #3. However if he was a consistently low scoring judge it would be okay I'm guessing.
A 7 isn't that much of a deviation from the other two judges who gave her 8's. If one of those judges scored a 5 and the others scored her 8's and 9's, then I would be raising an eyebrow.
the judges each have a section of the form to judge on, one judge judges the hand technique, another judges the footwork, and the last on judges overall.
this is awesome
Check the north korean black belts and compare it to ata. Then you know the truth
Is this a traditional Tae Kwon Do or Karate?
This is Songham Taekwondo (ATA)
@ JP Simmons - thank you for the clarification.
@@JasonKang777 No problem (1 year later on my reply LOL)
Well the form is so long
Just needs music added
nahhhh.... not that long u should see the 8th or 9th degree form XD
It certainly is a better test of skill than the WTF forms, or probably the ITF forms, for that matter. From white belt through all the degrees of dan, Songahm forms increase in length, complexity and difficulty of individual techniques and technique combinations.
This form (Chung Hae) has 95 moves in the entire form. From start to finish, it takes on average 2.5 minutes to do this form.
The mental and physical skill is a true challenge ... no small feat to make that degree either ... congrats to her perseverance and skills!
Only a half dozen students watching her technique, which is aimable.
Sad....
Tae Kwon do is only good for the kicks. If you go through the system to get a blackbelt its so useless and inefficient.. once you learn the kicks move on to a different style
>_^ It takes time to get the kicks down. Kicks need control balance and power but you also need to stretch every day to maintain the flexibility needed for higher kicks.
Blackbelt means you've gotten the basics down and can apply them (same with judo) and it takes about 4-5 years to obtain a blackbelt in the style (took me 5). Taekwondo is a good base to learn other striking arts. A blackbelt also shows dedication. Most likely, if you have a blackbelt in one art, you're more likely to learn another art to fill in what you need work on. No art has it all. There are many mma practioners that at one point started with taekwondo or karate then transitioned over.
@@paulgorman2801 Agreed. But I mean the system is so inefficient. You take classes once or twice a week for many years. While you practice and polish the entire form which includes punches. If you took the kicks and stretches, and practiced the kicks 4-5 times a week or daily. You'd have a blackbelt's kick in half the time. Tae kwon do is known for their kicks. So its much more time efficient to learn something for punching and striking separately or at the same time.
@@derek8400 agreed, tkd is now known for their kicks because of wtf tkd. that’s why I prefer itf, traditional tkd since they focus a lot on punches, similar to kickboxing.
I never liked ATA forms
Too hard for you I guess
@joshuaedwards4927 No. Just never made sense how long they were. To each their own.
great control... but no power on her techniques.. I bet she doesn't know why she's doing those techniques... damn sportive karate styles...
Just wait till you get kicked by her.
@@deborahzafar4176 lol.. explain the bunkai my friend.. explain it ! She shows no power in her techniques.. so.. ok.. I'll wait for it. I'm a black belt too.. and I didn't pay for it.. I worked for it.. here is the difference !
@@joestabbin7003 Everyone has their own strengths and if you were attacking her you would feel the power, however when showing techniques full power is not required. I would never speak negatively about your abilities as a black belt as I have never seen you in action. You have also never seen me in action so you could not possibly know what I am capable of. As I prepare to achieve my 4th degree Black Belt in a few months I have worked my butt off and learned many lessons. One of the most important is to control my power, as unless I'm in a life and death situation it is not my goal to injure others which I assure you I have the power to do. I have also learned to not let people like you who hide behind a keyboard and insult others for no reason to bother me this is not my idea of a Black Belt attitude or a behavior I teach my students. So any future remarks in my direction would be a waste of your time as my time is to valuable to waste.
@@deborahzafar4176 lo wow.. what a awful explanation ! this kind of sportive karate sucks.. this is not martial art
First of all, it's not karate, its taekwondo. I've done both, and I know in karate - starting with the te-waza through all the kata, demonstrating power is key. With Competition poomsae, power, I think, is less important than technical perfection. If it were a belt grading, it would be different.