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- The Associated Pro4 SC10 1/10 Brushless Short Course Truck has been around for a while at this point. But summer is coming again Down Under and SCT is on the menu! Today we're looking at AE's offering, and considering its value against the Arrma Senton, Traxxas Slash and HPI Jumpshot.
(Oh, there's a Hobao Hyper SC10 and Tekno SCT410 2.0 on the way and I'm trying to get hold of a TLR TEN, but Australia and stock levels aren't always buds!)
Let's test!
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yes! finally a youtuber giving this car the credit it deserves. i have one and absolutely love it, but all i see is videos of peeps talking about sentons and slashes. the pro4 has race pedigree with the toughness of a basher, can't go wrong at all. cheers for giving this car some love!
Heh, no worries! It deserves the credit, what a great machine!
Now if only they'd do the same for the Losi TENacity...
Video is done. Publishes on Feb 7 👍
I made a comment about the AE 4wd buggies in your buggy video and here you've got the 4wd short course truck! What a great option. The buggy will just have smaller tires and be lower to the ground. For your yard an SCT is an excellent choice. Also I believe it runs standard SCT wheels and tires, so you have a LOT of options for race compound tires. :) I also appreciate that even the cheaper plastic shocks from Associated/Element still work really well
Thanks Andy! Yeah I'm loving what associated is making :) Cheers for the recommendation!
I've beat the living daylights out of my Pro4 learning to race on a 1/8th track. It's so reliable. I've even put a 3900KV motor in it and run it on 3s quite a bit. I've only ever eventually broken a front arm, but upgraded to aluminum ones. Love the thing.
Nice. And, not surprising - it's truly a great machine, isn't it!
Where do u get aluminum arms?
Spot-on. The TA RTRs are so much fun to drive. The 2wd is an older design, but still a banger. Trophy Rat is my favorite RTR purchase out of probably 40 vehicles. Can't suggest TA RTRs enough.
Nice.
The trophy rat is still selling, too, right? Looks like fun!
Great video, I bought one second hand a while back and so far all I’ve done is change the front arms out for rpm ones and now it’s damn near as unbreakable and the mt10 I have as well
Nice! I've blown the bearings on both sides of the MT10 rear diff recently, but that's the first issue I've had with this platform. My MT10 has withstood a lot of hard driving from my son and me too, so my expectations for this very similarly equipped Pro4 is for a durable machine.
The 2 foam pieces in the battery tray are for moving the battery forward or backward for weight bias tuning
Love running my Pro4 SC10, both the MT10 & Pro4 SC10 are based off of Helion Doninus trucks. If you want a Tekno you need the latest just released SCT410 - 2.0, the old 410.3 has been discontinued after being around for around 9 years.
Good info all round, thanks!
Man hopefully they re-release the helion dominus 10tr if it really is the same platform
So is the better buy the tekno sct410 2.0
@@utb8536 The Tekno isn't going to be in the same price area as the rtr trucks, way more expensive + having to build it. Much better truck though.
I'd agree here. The value of the Pro4 SC10 is probably hard to beat, but the quality of the Tekno is not a fair comparison. They're priced differently because they are different! But the AE is still a fine car, especially for the money!
I like your honest reviews. Not telling some sponsored car is the best... Could tell you about my other brand cars, but let me put it this way: in my experience race(brand) inspired "beginner" models perform mostly better out of the box than most well known brands and they are almost always fully adjustable and dont need upgrades like some popular brands do. This car is a nice example i would say...
Thanks. I try to be impartial even with sponsored videos - look at my most recent rlaarlo AM-D12 desert buggy vid, for example. I appreciate the comment, thank you. And I've had this car out again on the weekends, it's a good one!
@@RCTNT I am, as an Rc enthousiast, some what baffled about some peoples adoration about some brands. Like they don't want to know or believe there are other (better) brands. Also depends bit on parts availability off course, but then again, when its a good product you don't need lots off parts. I drive for instance with some friends a serpent srx mm with upgraded competition 6.5t motor and esc on parkings and off-road. We use them quite often, but other then some bearings, tires, rod ends we haven't had any issues with these cars and they are seriously fast (pulls wheelie at 50+kmh) and handle with some adjustments both surfaces like a champ. I've had lots off different brands and sizes cars, but this thing was also some kind off an unexpected joy to drive and good quality. I bed i would drive circles around, for instance a Bandit which i've also owned, if i would race that. I have to admit I also have learned how to set up a car in the years or what to change, but that isn't what makes only this difference. I sold the Bandit quite fast because off its "limitations", and that little serpent is one off my favorite cars now and makes me smile every time. Thats the difference in my experience between brand a and b and some good electronics. To be honest, this car is also my first car with adjustable race electronics which also helps a lot putting huge power down, but then again, if the chassis wasn't any good it could not handle such power...
That is what i noticed in the video. You just know in a minute if something has potential which makes it the more fun to run....👍
@peteroosterhoff8850 the nicer cars do have a feel that some of the cheaper or inferior ones simply lack, this is true. Glad you've enjoyed the journey and found a rig you really like! Cheers for the thoughts here 👍
Thanks for doing this! I spend my time mostly with the the Tamiya line of vehicles but I was at a racing exhibition recently and most of the guys were using the Pro4 SC10. It was a short course with a lot of jumps and I was surprised how well they took the air and such stable landing. But as I'm not familiar with the truck I wanted to know more. If I wanted to race and keep up with these guys you've sold me on this model for so many reasons. I think for the price and what you get this makes a lot of sense. Thanks again!
Hey, no worries. It's a good car, I hope you have a blast with it!
well the nice thing is I now know what I'm looking for with confidence in my choice! :)@@RCTNT
Glad to help!
8:26 The famous CLASSIC TH-camr’s curse….😂
Haha yes, timing is everything
Some of the best parts of RC have been buying an RTR and slowly upgrading it over time when the need comes. Its a fun process!
Bash, break, upgrade, repeat. That's about the state of it, eh! Though this car is quite complete in its stock state, which you can't often say about RTR vehicles. The MT10 is also good in stock form. I don't have many other rigs like these.
@@RCTNT I still have a slash from 2011 that runs like a champs too! It’s impressive!
I have a Stampede 4x4 vxl floating around here from around that time too. Yeah, it's needed a arms, a new motor, servo, etc etc but they keep on running, don't they 🙂
The only thing my slash needs is a servo surprisingly. It still has the original velenion system that came in it back then and it ripps. Im pretty sure I put RPM arms on it back when I was racing it at my lhs so those will probably last forever lol @@RCTNT
@SeanLewisMedia yeah for sure! Rpm keeps them in action, eh
It looks like a great driving truck. I have gone to many r/c races and the 4WD short course class can be one of the most brutal, because drivers cannot control them. This truck appears to very controllable. The front bumper really took some hard shots. I really enjoyed the review.
That's great to hear, thank you. I expect this will be a tough rig if the MT10 is any indication. It's eminently controllable, though I think I'll cut out some of the rear window area on the body, as it parachutes a little on big air jumps. I've had it out at a bmx track recently and it took a hiding!
@@RCTNT I just looked at a one for sale as a slider and he has a Proline body with several sections cut out of the rear of the body.
It definitely helps on bigger jumps.
TRAXXAS is amazing fast, built strong and turns sharp.
The Slash VXL 4x4 is a fine vehicle, yes. I've just done a video on it and in a few more weeks I'll be doing an 8 vehicle round up, comparing SCTs and desert trucks from many manufacturers!
Love this truck and considered getting for a moment.
Did you know this is not an actual AE design? It was sold under a different brand and name previously. You can find info of it if you scroll through a forum post after typing the AE full name on Google.
It does seem to be a much better deal than a 4x4 Slash, for sure. What an actual steal of an RC you guys get in Aus for it. That price nearly gave me anxiety.😥
The HPI is a steal, for sure. The Pro4 here is also priced well, and I can't complain about the Senton either. But traxxas is on another planet, yeah!
Hi.. I’m a big fan of your content.. keep it up. I got one of these trucks last week. It does say in the box that it has a gyro.. yet there is no control. I haven’t dug into that too much because I use radio link receivers. That aside.. this truck is amazing.
I'm very confident there's no gyro. However, we can test for one; turn it on then pick it up and swivel left and right. If the wheels countersteer, there's a gyro. If they stay still, no gyro. Cheers for the feedback and thanks for watching my videos!
There's no gyro. I added a receiver that has a gyro built in to my pro4. (Kyosho KRG-331) and I really like it.
With the BL-2S Slash 4x4 having been released recently the Pro4 SC10 is no longer a cheaper option. But it is still a better deal, as for $10 more than the Slash 4x4 BL-2S you get a far more adjustable chassis with overall better handling and better running gear. You _can_ make the Slash 4x4 handle as good but you will need to spend more money on it to do so.
The specs of the BL-2S Slash suggest to me that it'll be about as fast as the XL5, though probably better on batteries. It'll also cost about 25% more than the Pro4 SC10 in Australia, and it still doesn't have a centre diff, sway bars and bigger brushless power. In Australia at least, the Pro4 SC10 remains the easy recommendation. In the USA it sounds like it's still going to be the better choice if there's only $10 in it! Thanks for the info!
Great fun review! I always liked team associated vehicles and especially this one. Great truck all around.
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Definitely a great value shortcourse truck 👍
People complain about the ARRMA for the motor mount design flaw, the HPI for not having threaded arm pins, and Slash for being heavy, stiff, with slow steering servos. Go with Losi, AE, or Tekno
I think for value in particular, the AE might be 'it', yeah!
Indeed, you can't go wrong with AE on the track. Nobody races Traxxas unless it's an all Traxxas race. Cheers!@@RCTNT
never knew about this car...id have to agree the sc10 is the best one. im traxxas bias too.. lol
Traxxas does do a great job with the slash and their stability control is quite good. But even without that element, the Associated rig is just so smooth and such a good driver.
Nice to have the choice either way though!
Wish I had known about the sc10 pro 4 before I purchased my senton. The senton is fun so much do that I converted it to 4S and it will now do 60 which I will admit is a bit much at times lol. But the sc10 has many more features that make it act like a real truck and add to the scale feel of it. I may have to look into trading up for one. Thx for the review
No worries. For what it's worth, I think Hot Racing make a center diff that'll fit the Senton 3s BLX, which will get you most of the way there if you want to improve it!
I had an Sc10 back 2010. So they have actually been around a LONG time. Great overview on this thing and I agree, an awesome Platform. Which I find is the case on most TEAM Assoc. Kits. Nice work. :)
Even the slash has been around for ages and I still think of traxxas as the 'new' company because I only discovered them in 1999, lol
I like this version of the Pro4, and the MT10. It'll no doubt get another update in the next year or two but I'm really happy with this thing :) Cheers
Yeah the Slash started it all!! lol indestructible too!! for the most part. but cheap to fix AND upgrade. I had the Sc10 2wd but I REALLY wanted the 4x4 version. Sorry I know its Real late. I am bad for that. :( .. just needed to be said. 😂😂😂😂@@RCTNT
I've just filmed my Slash 4x4 VXL video yesterday. Gonna be interesting to compare all of these
I thought the new 4s mojave was the only small sct with a center diff. Good to know. Great review! Thanks
I'll have a couple more to show you with that, soon! Cheers
The feel of that wheel can be changed a good bit by buying cheap 1/24 1.2-1.3inch tires and putting one on the remote wheel.
That's a great idea!
Concussion bar?!?!!!! Obstacles are called problems??!!! I hope you don’t mind but I am adopting those terms from here on out good sir!
Oh awesome! In the first part of your comment I was thinking, "here we go again" - I get numerous comments from people who really take issue with my terminology. You know, cos RC is such Serious Business.
And then the second part of your comment was such a pleasant surprise 😊
Great video!
New sub.
Thanks and welcome 😊
Wow you really know your stuff! I'm subbing
Thanks, glad you got something from it 😊
Hi Craig, great vid mate just wanted to check when you had it on your knee you mention the centre diff but then at around 8 minutes or just after you talk about the slipper clutch needing tightening.. This has a centre diff doesn't it?
Yep, it has a variable torque, multi-plate slipper clutch, or VTS (Variable Torque System) slipper clutch, per the AE website's wording. It works with the center diff to provide smoother power transfer and to protect the drivetrain by absorbing sudden shocks during hard acceleration.
So yes, both 👍
@@RCTNT Hi Craig, I have to say wow mate and that you've educated me on something I had no idea existed. I had never heard of an RC car/truck having a centre diff and slipper clutch as well.. I'm 50 and got back into the hobby 6 years ago after loving Tamiya's as a kid and I have a Kraton, Team Corally Asuga, KAGAMA and Sketer and had no idea slippers were used like that.. Appreciate the information mate.. Have a great weekend.
Turns out I'm wrong. I'm so sorry! It's ironic given your very kind comment. I just pulled the diff cover because I also didn't know you could have a centre diff and a slipper. Well, you can have both, but their functions overlap to an extent. Sorry, I should have checked the car before I answered!
Good taste in vehicles, Team Corally are making great things!
Thanks to this review I opted for this truck over the Slash and Senton and I couldn't be happier with the truck. It really is such a well balanced beast. I ran 2s and 3s and for me 2s is just right. I am firmly hooked on the SC truck platform. Looking forward to your final vid on all the SC reviews.
I'm so glad! More videos coming and I'll have this round-up video done as soon as I can manage it. Thanks for bearing with me on it!
I love value out the box I have so many per say knock offs. You acuslly got me to purchase the trx models the g wagon with tank steer and lockers I've had my eye in trx and when u compared and beat it I couldn't resist. There's a desert racer I've had my eye on about 600 but nor sure of that's the same as udr
I hear good things about the Yikong yk4072 and yk4073, yeah.
The 4106 Pro here can't hold a candle to the TRX4 in rock crawling capability, but the value and fun are both there, for sure. Enjoy!
Cool sc truck & great video‼️👍👍🦾🦾🤘🤘
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Great video. I love my Senton but wouldn’t mind something that handles Better, maybe I’ll look into something from associated.
It's very good, you won't be disappointed.
This is a great truck. I have had mine for 2 years. I run 2 and 3 s with it .
Nice one! I haven't put a 3s into this yet, but I will!
@@RCTNT it won't disappoint
I don't doubt it!
I do love a good value!
I've been eying one of these for a few years now. I should just buy it.
It's my number one SCT for value, even after trying 12 of them. It's not the *best* SCT, but for the money you pay, it delivers handsomely on features, durability and drive quality. It's very easy to recommend!
@@RCTNT whats the best
I'll be doing a video round up on this soon. Just have a few more cars to get through first.
Tekno for quality.
Pro4 sct410 for value.
Mojave 4s for body.
BR2.0 for scale.
Haven't determined best 2wd yet, nor best kit.
Senton for hard bash durability.
Not final, but these are my first thoughts.
This seems very similar to my ye olde hong nor sct, albeit updated (I think mine is some 15+ years old)!
Old but still good!
@@RCTNT I threw a hobbywing motor+esc combo in it and some meaty trail-ish tyres and now it's my jack-of-all RC. It'll get re-purposed for more Baja style performance once I figure out what to build for my next 'daily' RC!
And that right there is a hobby. Glad you're having fun with it!
I've had my eye one one of those since they were released.!
More so now since I got myself the Rival MT-10.!
That thing has really impressed me.!!
THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO MATE.!
Stay safe out there & best wishes from Scotland 🏴 🙏 ❤️ 📻 🕹️ 🔋 🚗 🚖 🚕 🚔 🚚 🚙 🚘 🚓 🚒 🚑 🚐 🚎 🚤 🚁 🛩️.!
Haha such energy! No worries 🙂and you
Associated HANDS DOWN, Traxxas doesn't even come close...
Slash vs this, even if the Traxxas wasn't so much more expensive in Australia, yes, I must agree. Center diff, sway bars, alu shock caps and lights. One of the Traxxas models does have lights at least. And to be fair, Traxxas has stability control while Associated here doesn't. But with a center diff you really don't miss it.
Link to the hair net? I havent found a mesh that fine
This is probably the best way to go: amzn.to/3XT4Xiv
Clean the plastics really well so it adheres well.
Great short coarse, I wish it was available as a roller
That would be cool, yes!
There's another promising short course truck you might find interesting and it does sell as a roller. I've just assembled it and will have videos for it in January - the Hobao 10SC.
The brushed version pro4 sc10 sells for 250 US dollars. Not a roller but that’s a steal and then you can brushless mod as you wish
It ain't no AE either. It and the MT-10 are rebadged Helion Avenge platforms. The only difference is the Avenge spares are much, much cheaper. Because AE. 😂 Great truck either way though, even if the rebadging is completely shameless, even down to whoring the Reedy name out on the cheap Hobbywing brushless setup.
Interesting, I've heard a few say this in the comments before. Good to know.
@@RCTNT it was a great truck when it was Helion, it's still a great truck now it's an AE. Love mine! Glad that Helion chassis are being rescued from obscurity by other companies that recognise the good design. Still annoyed that no one picked it up when the owner retired!
Great video, just picked one up last week. Why the endo at 8:30 did you hit the brake by accident or does this truck have a tendency to nose dive? Thanks
It's my jump, it needs fixing. Everything nose dives in that direction. Car jumps well.
Stop showing me things I would like, nah, keep showing me, it gives me incentive to go to work, hmmmmmmm RC shopping.
Heh, well I know you love your MT10 when you remember to drive it. You'll love this too, if your household ever needs another SCT!
WAY better for competition racing than a Slash lol no question
Adding sway bars and alu caps to the Slash helps bring it up to the cheaper Pro4 spec, but you're still missing that center diff. I just spent a couple of hours driving the Slash here with friends and it's still a great car on the track. But the AE feels more refined. But then I like the VXL system feel a bit more than the AE one. Decisions!
This video is a bit older now. Waiting on your 12 rating vid but leaning on this truck right now. Does it still feel like the truck to beat? I’ve been out of the hobby nearly 20 years and thinking about getting back in.
For value? Yes. The Tekno SCT410 2.0 is in a league of its own, though. For an RTR, the Mojave 4S BLX is compelling for bashing. The smoothest runner so far, at least to my feel, is the Losi TT Pro I looked at recently. But the Pro4 SC10 combines features, performance and durability for a compelling price. It's not the best, but it's so good for the money that it's an easy recommendation.
Got my first look at the Mojave 1/8. That thing looks built tough.. ha might need to extend the budget a lil :) thanks for your input and quick reply!
Interesting, I run all AE, except for 4x4 Short Course, I had the original AE 4x4 SC and being belt driven it was never as fast or as stable as the Losi SCTE so sold it for a Losi SCTE. I've raced with the SCTE for several years and just picked up a Tekno SCT410.3 to try out this year. Now I'm wondering if I should have picked up a Pro4 instead.
You'll be happy with the Tekno, I'm sure. I've nearly finished my reviews of the 12 short course and desert trucks and then I'll do a comparison/round up video of them all. The Pro4 SC10 is a fine car, but there are many excellent cars to choose from. I'd suggest the Tekno is probably the better choice, though I haven't had a 10.3, and the AE is great too. Can't really go wrong with either, I suspect.
So what is you favorite radio?
Flysky nb4 noble pro, if money is no object.
Flysky GT5 for best budget all rounder.
Spektrum dx5 rugged for wet adventures.
RC8X for screen and features.
Overall, the noble nb4 pro.
Anything that compare to udr without udr price I live the Chinese knock offs lol if there worth it
Good time to be in the hobby, isn't it!
Does this car require any gearing changes if going from 2s to 3s?
Nope, I think they have it pretty much perfect out of the box for general use on both batteries
The new hobbywing sensored 3665 4000kv dosent fit in the Associated Pro 4 Sc10.
Am i better off with the sensored 80 amp combo with 3652 4100kv.
Or the Sensorless 120amp combo 3660 3700kv.
Want to run on 2s when racing and 3s for park fun.
Wish the had a 140amp 3660 4000kv sensored combo lol
I'd be inclined to go with the 3660 3700kv system, and maybe add a tooth on the pinion. That should be about perfect for racing on 2s.
If you do step up a pinion size, just watch your temps on 3s when bashing. I think it'll be fine but just keep an eye on it while you're still getting used to it. The car will absolutely rip with that system!
@RCTNT Thanks for the reply. I had the old max10 3660 3200kv combo in my Mt10 with a 15t. No overheating but was uncontrollable on 3s lol.
May stick the new 3700kv in both.
And just up the pinion when on track on 2s.
3652 bit small for 4x4 ain't it but iv heard the sensored motors produce more torque anyway.
@chrisvda7277 spec for spec, the presence of a sensor will not change the torque of a motor. It will reduce cogging and give a smoother response that's accurate to your throttle input, curving up as load is applied (unless it's FOC or similar, where load is accounted for by ensuring the speed increase is linearly mapped to throttle input).
But not all motors are created equally, and some will have stronger magnets and better windings (Holmes Hobbies, Castle) than others (Surpass/Rocket, etc). Hobbywing seems to be pretty good.
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Hi, is it right that the body of the arrma senton fits the sc10 pro4 perfectly?
I've waited to answer this today until I could get to my storage container to check for you.
The Pro4 body fits neatly on the Senton.
The Senton doesn't fit quite as well on the Pro4, mainly because the front of the rear wheel arches are a little far back. You could cut them though, no worries.
Only other fitment issue with Senton body on Pro4 is the rear body holes are slightly too wide on the body. You'll need to cut about 5mm inward on the rear holes so they align with the Pro4 body posts. The front fits fine. All else looks good!
What radios do you reccomend between 80-120$?
DumboRC DDF350 looks great but I haven't used it yet.
Flysky GT5 is getting on now but it's still an excellent choice.
The Rlaarlo system is brilliant value, though power hungry. Review here: th-cam.com/video/XMHJpJ1r4nI/w-d-xo.html
Any of those three will give you a gyro receiver in the box (double check the DumboRC combo includes an X6FG or similar, where 'G' means gyro).
I'm still planning to do a radio round up, comparing cheap and more premium options, but those three are all going to be a decent starting point.
For in the hand comfort, I really like the GT5 - and like the other two, extra receivers are cheap. The FS-A3 is a super budget favourite to go with the GT5, for example.
@@RCTNT Thanks for responding.Isn't the latest flysky gt7 supposed to be better than the gt5 though?
No idea, haven't seen it! I have 4x GT5 radios and their 20 model memories are all mostly full, if that gives you an idea of the experience with which I speak about it.
I've got 3 models tied to my Rlaarlo radio and I've been growing increasingly satisfied with using it, too. The gyro works well and it's lovely and lightweight.
The next thing I'll do after sending this message is to check out the GT7 though. Thanks for the tip!
Ah okay, I have seen the G7P before. It's an ANT protocol radio. That's also a great option.
Cheap receivers here, including gyro options:
a.aliexpress.com/_mLt4NWK
I asked chatgpt how ANT differs from Flysky's AFHDS variants. Thought the answer was worth sharing:
The Flysky ANT protocol is a relatively new system developed by Flysky in 2020, leveraging over ten years of development experience. It's an upgrade over the older AFHDS 2A protocol and utilizes a new generation of highly integrated 2.4G chips. The ANT protocol is known for its advanced features such as bidirectional real-time data transmission, allowing not just control signals to be sent from the transmitter to the receiver but also enabling the receiver to send back data like temperature and speed to the transmitter. This makes model control more interactive and secure. Additionally, the ANT protocol boasts intelligent automatic RF configuration, adapting to various needs like transmission data volume, anti-interference, delay, and distance, enhancing user experience. It also employs an automatic frequency hopping method to avoid co-channel interference, along with a unique ID recognition system for each transmitter and receiver to further improve security and stability. Lastly, the ANT system emphasizes low power consumption and highly reliable system design, aiming to reduce electronic components while enhancing stability, reliability, and consistency in production [[❞]](www.flysky-cn.com/enant).
On the other hand, AFHDS 3, the third generation of the Automatic Frequency Hopping Digital System, is Flysky's most advanced patented digital wireless protocol before ANT. It builds upon the features of AFHDS 2A and WS2A protocols, supporting bidirectional real-time data packet transmission and lossless data stream transmission. AFHDS 3 is designed for flexibility and adaptability, dynamically setting and balancing numerous parameters such as the number of RF transmission channels, channel resolution, range, anti-interference requirements, and latency to suit each customer's specific needs. It also includes features like passthrough data transmission for improved communication between devices and an intelligent automatic RF configuration that automatically optimizes the system based on the connected hardware and operational requirements. Additionally, AFHDS 3 maintains a high level of security with a unique digital authentication system for each transmitter and receiver pair and boasts low power consumption through the use of efficient components and transmission strategies [[❞]](shop.flysky-cn.com/pages/afhds3).
Both protocols represent significant advancements in remote control communication, offering robust features for enhanced control, security, and user experience. However, the ANT protocol introduces several new features and improvements, particularly in terms of system integration, intelligence in configuration, and efficiency, representing Flysky's latest strides in remote control technology.
Was that a Dr Who reference buddy?
I mean, the TARDIS took up half the screen there for a moment! :)
@@RCTNT Awesome job man! not alot of my friends would get it
How would you rate your brushless Jumpshot compared to the other short coares shown in this video, I didnt include your Tekno in the line up. Due to being a kit & pretty expensive for a full build, so not really comparable to the other trucks.
The HPI is excellent value. But I think the Pro4 still wins on value for a 4x4 brushless. Once all these individual videos are done, I'll be doing a big round up/comparison video on all 11 vehicles, what's good, what's not, who should buy it, etc. We're nearly there!
Yes I went out & gave my my Pro4 a run after watching your video, just to remind me of how good a driving experience they are. The handling into & out of fast corners is a joy with the center diff, it certainly does make you think there is a giro. Far better all round handling than my Senton 3s blx, Senton is faster though & a great basher.
How are the shocks? I heard they break easily because they’re threaded?
I bashed this and the MT10 hard yesterday. The MT10 has seen a LOT of use since I got it, in both my hands on 3s and my son's SEND-IT hands on 2s. Held up fine so far!
@@RCTNT what 3s battery do u recommend? And charger to fit the TA pro4? I’m new to rc trucks
What do you like better, the MT10 or the SC10 and is it worth owning both?
That's difficult. I think I like the MT10 better for general bashing, as the larger wheels and clearance make it more flexible to different terrain. The SC10 is undoubtedly the better driver, but even the MT10 lands on its wheels most of the time. It's quite impressive for a monster truck. (Playing with the Losi LMT today and it spends half its time upside down, blimey)
If you want an affordable SCT, the MT10 is pretty great. General bashing duties, I think the MT10 still edges it out! (And if you're not in a hurry, stay tuned. I'm going to have 7 or 8 1/10 SCTs to compare here soon). Cheers
@RCTNT Thank you soo much. I currently have an Arrma Granite (similar to the MT10) You are definitely spiking my interest in SCT's ( something that can still jump and bash a little but with better handling / more refined driving experience. The Mojave 6s is on my radar (Although has been around a while now and is probably due for an update). The Mojave 4s is an interesting new release, it would be good to know how it compares to the 1/10 scale SCT's. Can't wait for your next video!!
I'll probably grab the 4s once it's available in Australia, too. Have nearly bought the Mojave 6s numerous times but have held off. I know it'll be fantastic though.
@@RCTNT I think they are available at Hobbies direct
Thanks, I looked around this morning after your last comment and found they're here already! Thanks! (nabbed one from ebay with some combined discounts for AUD$822, care of Northern Beaches Hobby Centre! That's not bad eh!)
We race sct on a wet dirt oval any ideas for a good tire the tires fill up with dirt in the treads quickly
I'm not the guy to ask on that (yet) but my reading leads me to suggest:
Proline Blockade
J Concepts Goosebumps
AKA Impact
@@RCTNT Kool I'll check them out
Hi! It s not better or don t you preffer the tekno sct410 2.0 ?
The Tekno is a better vehicle but its an unfair comparison. The Tekno is a kit and it's far more expensive. The Pro4 SC10 is unbeatable for value. It offers a superior drive to the Slash and Senton. But the SCT410 2.0 is the better vehicle, if you have the budget for it.
Yes i realised later,unfortunately i thought is rtr also😀thank s mate!
@@RCTNT but comparing with sct 410 competition?i found one second hand in good shape! Big thx!
I'd expect the older Tekno models to still be solid voices, as long as they've been looked after. There's nothing wrong with the Pro4 SC10, but it's a plastic tub chassis RTR built to a price. The Tekno will be more refined, I'd think. But, keep in mind this Tekno was my first ever, so I'm relying on general knowledge of the brand in this answer.
So are you familiar with the Sc10 pro 4 4x4 BRUSHED version? Any insite on that one? It’s at horizon for $254 and includes battery and charger.
I'm not, sorry, but if it's running something like a reedy 550 12T motor and still has the same shocks and sway bars of the brushless version, it's probably a solid buy. But I have no direct experience with it, to be clear.
@@RCTNT it says it’s a sport 550 reedy power motor and threaded, oil filled coil over shock absorbers. Doesn’t mention the sway bars specifically.
I just did a quick image search online for 'Pro4 SC10' and it looks like it's the same suspension setup as the brushless version, with sway bars at both ends, the same center diff, etc etc, plus it has a 15T 550 3-slot. So, on paper at least, that's a good car!
You can find the specs here: www.associatedelectrics.com/teamassociated/cars_and_trucks/Pro4SC10/Ready-To-Run/specs/
@@RCTNT awesome! Thanks for checking it out for me. Sounds promising. As a first for this type of vehicle I think it’s going to be the one!
It's a solid choice, I agree. Hope you like it if you get it - come back and let me know, if you want. Always happy to hear how it went! Cheers
I have the Pro2 SC10 and it's a great truck. The handling for a 2WD is amazing. We need some #SHORTcourseAINTdead stickers!
Haha right, yeah! I'm really enjoying playing with short course trucks :) Cheers
I got one before it was the Associated sc10pro 4x4. Its called a Helion Select Four. it's 4x4, bought 2. for $250.00 each from Amain. handles great, was worried I never see a part for it since I'd never heard of helion. However the chassis on the Select four has some snapping issues in rear, So I bought metal skid plates for the bigger Helion car that I made work for the select four. Then the associated came around and I thought it looked familiar, but kept waiting for under body shots to compair.
Numerous folks have shared their stories about this and also the similar MT4. Small differences but largely the same platform, by the sound of it. I learn a little more each time someone tells their story. Thanks 😊
Losi tenacity sct 4x4 avc,, (not tt pro, or db) I have one with no avc, as brought as roller, but reckon standard stock Losi tenacity sct brushless without the avc on, could match sc10, bro 🤔🤔😅😁😉👍
For sure, but hadn't that been recently discontinued? I do like it though! Looks great
what car would u recommend under 350$ me. as i am in india and i have a friend in us who can bring me a car, but i cant get parts here tho. i like the arma mojave 4s too, whats ur thought?
If buying in the USA to bring to you and parts are not available, perhaps a Slash 4x4 vxl makes sense here. Have your friend also buy alu shock caps, a sway bar kit, rpm bumper and rpm a-arms. You should be sorted for parts and have a long lasting car.
Arrma senton 3s is another option. Have your friend also buy a spare drive shaft and spare bulkhead/diff cover set, and an alloy front shock brace.
Arrma mojave 4s may be fine too, but in Australia it's about usd700, so there's no way it's in budget. If it's a lot cheaper in the USA, then sure, it's a fine car.
The Losi tenacity tt pro is a superb driving car. My review comes soon for this one too. It's another excellent choice.
Hi, Great video!
Got a TECH question, you mentioned here that SC10 has 3rd diff (central) in comparison to slash but which version? If I look on 4x4 vxl 3S, seems it has central diff. I am having rly hard time chosing my 1st RC and I am comparing Slash with SC10.
Thanks in advance for feedback.
P.S. got high concern related to spare parts availability and custom gadgets in Europe for SC10.
You'll be fine for parts, IMO. I can get them in Australia and we get things after Europe, typically.
Only the Ultimate version of the VXL slash has the centre diff, if it even does. None of the others do. And to get it, you need you spend about a quarter again the cost of the Pro4 SC10.
The Associated car gets my vote for value. Parts shouldn't be a problem and the main things you'll kill over time are generic anyway (tires, servo and motor). You might want to check you can get RPM A-arms for either car, whichever you choose, as they'll be a weak point if you're intending regular big air for either. Otherwise, you'll be good either way.
@@RCTNT thanks for feedback. You are right, just checked and Slash has no central diff, but it has slipper gear which can be replaced with diff. On all forums i read that Traxxas has much better parts availability and different other parts, like fenders, covery etc.
That’s a really hard choice. My heart says Pro4 SC10 and my brain says slash 4x4 VXL xD
@krzysztofbentkowski92 haha fair enough. I think you'll find parts won't be a problem either way but I'm sure you'll work it out. The slash does want sway bars installed at least, IMO. They're after market and easily found on the likes of AliExpress and similar. Lights are helpful for direction, too, when the car is distant. And lastly the center diff really helps with smoothness on corners and direction changes.
All these things add up but they're all available for the Slash.
Of course, the Pro4 SC10 is cheaper and comes with all of that. It doesn't have a gyro, but it doesn't need it. The slash does have one, which is just as well!
Hello from France.
I'm really interested in this sc10!
There is also a 2 rwd version with a gyroscope.
In your opinion, a 2rwd with gyroscope would be as good as the 4rwd?
Thank you in advance for your response.
The Frenchi...
G'day! A 2wd with gyro will still be outperformed by a 4wd without gyro, assuming the same driver and assuming a little competency. You can't match the traction of 4 driven wheels with two, even with a computer doing the fine counter steering to keep you in the right direction!
Better, though? That's personal preference. I think I prefer 4wd, but 2wd stuff is still really fun!
It's excellent. However, there are a handful of better 'drivers' in my increasingly broad round-up comparison series that I'm putting together. Still to come before the series is ready for the all-in-one comparison video at the end: Losi Tenacity TT Pro, Kyosho Outlaw kit, Hobao Hyper 10SC kit, Losi Baja Rey 2.0.
So far, of the ones I've done, the AE Pro4 SC10 is unbeatable for value, though the hesitation in the ESC at times can be a minor (minor) let-down. I like the feel of the Tekno and the Tenacity TT Pro on the track more than the Associated, but it's a solid third in handling and feel so far. Though it varies by driving style and terrain, so have your grain of salt handy with my opinion.
Bottom line, for the price, the Pro4 SC10 is a superb deal. The car isn't perfect, but gee it's well-sorted and decently performing for the money. The others that feel better to drive than this car are considerably more expensive.
@@RCTNT thank you my friend !
So I'm going to listen to you once again and take a sc10 4wd.
As you say for the price I think it's unbeatable.
I could always do a minor upgrade or two next.
The others are too expensive for me and I really think it won't be worth the price for so little difference.
Thanks again .
I have the pro2 sc10 great fun little car to mess around with.
Ran 60kph on 3s out of the box.
Sounds about right! I'll GPS speed test it when I do my 7-way 1/10 SCT comparison video, once I have all the kits built! Looking forward to that!