Hi, gay man here. It does happen (including the kissing hours after meeting and asking for the name after kissing). It happens now, it would happen more considering they've been lonely for so long. 😅
13:30 The girl in this constantly saying: " This does not happen in real life!!". Over & over again. It drives me crazy. Sometimes amazing thing do happens you know... For example Ashley Johnson, whom is the voice actor for Ellie in the game. Well she is kind of shy & recluse as a person. So in 2009´ish she joined a D&D game. This became a live Twitch show in 2015 via TH-cam/Geek & Sundry. They played D&D live for years developing their characters. Growing the audience from a few 100´ds to 1000´ds to millions. Therefore they wanted to do more with it & make an animated episode of said show. So they asked the audience for 750.000 $ to do that....What they got was 11 mio.$. This show: The Legend of Vox Machina, has just been green lit for its 3 season! Furthermore one of the players in said D&D game: Travis Willingham/Grog was best friends with Troy Baker the voice actor for Joel in the game & best man at his wedding. So Ashley got to participate in that as well. To this day this group of friends still play & their second D&D campaign has also been green lit to be another animated show. Several comics have been produced via dark horse comics, figurines & novels...They are running a mio. $ company now. This does not happen in real life right??
Okay, rock stacks: very spiritually significant to the pre-christian celts & norse. The Scotts specifically used them as memorials and when they would visit they would add a new rock. As for the Norse, I'm thinking it was more elf-related.
The stack of rocks is a cairn, a small one, usually used for remembrance or to mark where you’ve been. In many cultures instead of burying bodies (usually places where the ground is permafrost) the cairn is built around a body to keep it interned and so animals can’t reach it and other ppl won’t stumble upon it
Sexuality is a spectrum, the more people realize that the more comfortable they would be with scenes like this. More men would have sex with each other in these times, and form relationships, there is no societal pressure to not be themselves. There are no rules anymore.
Not likely cancer. The showrunner has said that Frank has a neuromuscular degenerative disease, probably MS or ALS. You can see the fairly rapid onset in his painting, showing his lack of motor control. It's actually a decent parallel to being infected: you're trapped in your body, without being able to control what happens with it.
The beauty of this episode is that it subverts our expectations. We've been conditioned through modern storytelling to fear everything, especially the benign, the innocuous. Dolls, children, children with dolls, dolls that look like children, all manner of seemingly harmless and familiar things, all trying to kill you. We expect that any kindness will be answered with violence, that any trust met with betrayal. We as an audience have been primed to fear the most faithful of friends, the most reliable family members - especially in this particular genre of horror - and when we encounter a story about caring and commitment amongst the ruins of a dying world, we don't know how to process it and it hits hard. "I was not expecting this" seems to be the most common refrain, with good reason. This is ostensibly a series about a 'zombie apocalypse' where anyone and everyone can go from being a kindred soul to a mortal threat in an instant and no one is to be trusted, especially other humans. Yet this particular tale is about trust, and love, both matrimonial and romantic. It's about allowing oneself to be vulnerable and in that vulnerability, finding those moments of existence that are both ephemeral and priceless. We expect a calamity, a personal buskin beyond the destruction of our civilization. We anticipate a type of misfortune that doesn't occur. During the worst catastrophe in the history of human kind, we bear witness the best thing to ever happen to these two humans, and it's profound; jarring. We await a devastation that never comes to pass; that expectation of tragedy is subverted by a story of love. We expect blood and destruction; what we get is a masterpiece about small, beautiful lives lived less ordinary. This is one of the best stories ever told on film, in my opinion, and it's based on a video game; we've come a long way from Pong.
The director had said the piano scene utilized multiple cameras with minimal takes live because they wanted a visceral reaction. The writers actively sought out input from middle-aged gay men. It's interesting how queer people pick up "the vibe" between the two characters as the scene runs. Gay men in particular chuckle about the "what's your name" after the kiss and the immediate sexual encounter since we've all experienced that at some point in their lives.
In the official podcast, the writers mentioned that the director, editor, and Murray Bartlett are married middle aged gay men, so their feedback is what made this episode possible.
This has to be one of the best acted scenes in TV history. Bill was basically a virgin, and Nick Offerman portrayed the mix of excitement and nervousness so well. Their fight was so realistic, just like one a real couple would have. Bill looking like a scared little boy when Frank asked for a good last day, that little shoulder nudge Frank did to Bill at the strawberry patch when he said "I like you old". No way that little nudge was scripted. It was Murray Bartlett putting everything he had into it.
Craig Mazin shared that the disease was motor neuron degenerative in nature. ALS or MS. ALS is fatal (2 - 5 years prognosis), whereas MS, while brutally debilitating, usually isn't. ALS has a 5% - 10% chance of being inherited, while MS is 2% - 5%. Frank seemed to know exactly what he was afflicted by (likely why he was focused on exercising) and how it was going to progress.
If fungi can infect humans in the world of TLOU, I'd say the probability of a gay person meeting another gay person is higher. GOod reaction by the way. :)
21:24 Frank doesn't have cancer. The disease is motor neuron degenerative in nature, either ALS or MS. ALS is fatal, with a 2 - 5 years prognosis. MS isn't fatal, but the disease robs the sufferer of their physical autonomy.
It can be quite tricky for an American ear to tell the difference between Australian and New Zealand accents down under but I'd say you're Australian. NZ has a lilt to the e's that's my best clue.
I’m not a big fan of this format; one has seen it and the other hasn’t. The one that has seen it shouldn’t be explaining or answering the others question it as it goes on. I enjoy watching first-time viewers take it in and figure it out for themselves. Almost mild spoiler territory. Just my opinion.
What are the odds? The same as any other two people find the other. It is as likely as for any pair being and meeting at the same point in space in time. To quote Dawkins: "In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?
Whole Video feels like the "Bikey" ( thats the aussie term no?) version of the reactions. Frankly, its needed.Given the circumstances displayed. Edit: Also loving the reactions on them being seniors.
The story IS in the game. But the game they had a falling out and frank got bit multiple times and hung himself. You see Joel's pov not bills. Bill is a shut in and angry in the game. Stop saying IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. jfc
Episode coming up that gives this one a run for its money for saddest. Has she had home grown strawberries. It is much different than store bought which are bred for shape and size too much. Fresh home strawberries, especially if an heirloom variety are so much better.
It does happen. A lot!
The whole "This doesn't happen" mantra really killed this. My god.
Hi, gay man here. It does happen (including the kissing hours after meeting and asking for the name after kissing). It happens now, it would happen more considering they've been lonely for so long. 😅
Sad that this person thinks this doesn’t happen. It’s happened to me more than once. Perhaps I am lucky.
13:30 The girl in this constantly saying: " This does not happen in real life!!". Over & over again. It drives me crazy. Sometimes amazing thing do happens you know...
For example Ashley Johnson, whom is the voice actor for Ellie in the game. Well she is kind of shy & recluse as a person. So in 2009´ish she joined a D&D game. This became a live Twitch show in 2015 via TH-cam/Geek & Sundry.
They played D&D live for years developing their characters. Growing the audience from a few 100´ds to 1000´ds to millions. Therefore they wanted to do more with it & make an animated episode of said show.
So they asked the audience for 750.000 $ to do that....What they got was 11 mio.$.
This show: The Legend of Vox Machina, has just been green lit for its 3 season!
Furthermore one of the players in said D&D game: Travis Willingham/Grog was best friends with Troy Baker the voice actor for Joel in the game & best man at his wedding. So Ashley got to participate in that as well.
To this day this group of friends still play & their second D&D campaign has also been green lit to be another animated show. Several comics have been produced via dark horse comics, figurines & novels...They are running a mio. $ company now.
This does not happen in real life right??
Okay, rock stacks: very spiritually significant to the pre-christian celts & norse. The Scotts specifically used them as memorials and when they would visit they would add a new rock. As for the Norse, I'm thinking it was more elf-related.
Also native Americans
The stack of rocks is a cairn, a small one, usually used for remembrance or to mark where you’ve been. In many cultures instead of burying bodies (usually places where the ground is permafrost) the cairn is built around a body to keep it interned and so animals can’t reach it and other ppl won’t stumble upon it
Sexuality is a spectrum, the more people realize that the more comfortable they would be with scenes like this. More men would have sex with each other in these times, and form relationships, there is no societal pressure to not be themselves. There are no rules anymore.
I really enjoyed this video ... 😪😮💨😟🥺😢😥
Not likely cancer. The showrunner has said that Frank has a neuromuscular degenerative disease, probably MS or ALS. You can see the fairly rapid onset in his painting, showing his lack of motor control. It's actually a decent parallel to being infected: you're trapped in your body, without being able to control what happens with it.
0:59 The rocks are a memorial cairn. It’s not like he can hold a funeral.
The beauty of this episode is that it subverts our expectations. We've been conditioned through modern storytelling to fear everything, especially the benign, the innocuous. Dolls, children, children with dolls, dolls that look like children, all manner of seemingly harmless and familiar things, all trying to kill you. We expect that any kindness will be answered with violence, that any trust met with betrayal. We as an audience have been primed to fear the most faithful of friends, the most reliable family members - especially in this particular genre of horror - and when we encounter a story about caring and commitment amongst the ruins of a dying world, we don't know how to process it and it hits hard. "I was not expecting this" seems to be the most common refrain, with good reason. This is ostensibly a series about a 'zombie apocalypse' where anyone and everyone can go from being a kindred soul to a mortal threat in an instant and no one is to be trusted, especially other humans. Yet this particular tale is about trust, and love, both matrimonial and romantic. It's about allowing oneself to be vulnerable and in that vulnerability, finding those moments of existence that are both ephemeral and priceless. We expect a calamity, a personal buskin beyond the destruction of our civilization. We anticipate a type of misfortune that doesn't occur. During the worst catastrophe in the history of human kind, we bear witness the best thing to ever happen to these two humans, and it's profound; jarring. We await a devastation that never comes to pass; that expectation of tragedy is subverted by a story of love. We expect blood and destruction; what we get is a masterpiece about small, beautiful lives lived less ordinary.
This is one of the best stories ever told on film, in my opinion, and it's based on a video game; we've come a long way from Pong.
The director had said the piano scene utilized multiple cameras with minimal takes live because they wanted a visceral reaction. The writers actively sought out input from middle-aged gay men.
It's interesting how queer people pick up "the vibe" between the two characters as the scene runs. Gay men in particular chuckle about the "what's your name" after the kiss and the immediate sexual encounter since we've all experienced that at some point in their lives.
In the official podcast, the writers mentioned that the director, editor, and Murray Bartlett are married middle aged gay men, so their feedback is what made this episode possible.
This has to be one of the best acted scenes in TV history. Bill was basically a virgin, and Nick Offerman portrayed the mix of excitement and nervousness so well. Their fight was so realistic, just like one a real couple would have. Bill looking like a scared little boy when Frank asked for a good last day, that little shoulder nudge Frank did to Bill at the strawberry patch when he said "I like you old". No way that little nudge was scripted. It was Murray Bartlett putting everything he had into it.
It was MS that Frank had as you could see his motor skills declining when he was painting.
Craig Mazin shared that the disease was motor neuron degenerative in nature. ALS or MS. ALS is fatal (2 - 5 years prognosis), whereas MS, while brutally debilitating, usually isn't. ALS has a 5% - 10% chance of being inherited, while MS is 2% - 5%. Frank seemed to know exactly what he was afflicted by (likely why he was focused on exercising) and how it was going to progress.
If fungi can infect humans in the world of TLOU, I'd say the probability of a gay person meeting another gay person is higher. GOod reaction by the way. :)
it isnt cancer it is MS this is why we get to see shots of how good he was doing the paintings and how much they have declined over the years.
ALS
21:24 Frank doesn't have cancer. The disease is motor neuron degenerative in nature, either ALS or MS. ALS is fatal, with a 2 - 5 years prognosis. MS isn't fatal, but the disease robs the sufferer of their physical autonomy.
Are there reactions for other episodes?
It can be quite tricky for an American ear to tell the difference between Australian and New Zealand accents down under but I'd say you're Australian. NZ has a lilt to the e's that's my best clue.
I’m not a big fan of this format; one has seen it and the other hasn’t. The one that has seen it shouldn’t be explaining or answering the others question it as it goes on. I enjoy watching first-time viewers take it in and figure it out for themselves. Almost mild spoiler territory. Just my opinion.
What are the odds? The same as any other two people find the other. It is as likely as for any pair being and meeting at the same point in space in time. To quote Dawkins: "In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?
Whole Video feels like the "Bikey" ( thats the aussie term no?) version of the reactions.
Frankly, its needed.Given the circumstances displayed.
Edit: Also loving the reactions on them being seniors.
I think Frank has a Neurodegenerative Diseases like MS.
it's ALS.
The story IS in the game. But the game they had a falling out and frank got bit multiple times and hung himself. You see Joel's pov not bills. Bill is a shut in and angry in the game.
Stop saying IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. jfc
frank has MS.
It actually does happen in real life. The gay world can move really fast.
Spoiler McSpoilivich
Why is Rob Schneider's "The Hot Chick"s DVD cover like front and center in your camera shot lmao. 🤦🏻♀️
Episode coming up that gives this one a run for its money for saddest.
Has she had home grown strawberries. It is much different than store bought which are bred for shape and size too much. Fresh home strawberries, especially if an heirloom variety are so much better.
It’s Parkinson’s