An ACTUAL guide! So thankful I've followed you since you've started to branch out from guest spots on other TH-cam videos. Fantastic work Philosopher 👏
This is way better than other "msf farming guides" that just talk wich characters to farm as if we play the game since it's inception and we know what we're doing.
This guy is awesome, calm, collected, clear, concise, no manic screaming n shouting. Great advice, super analysis too, I'm lvl 69 with a lot coming at me soon, so this is all great info. You deserve 10000'S of views man!
@@PhilosopherMSF no worries, I'm slow with my compliments here lol but God damn it you deserve props!!, ima check out your discord, just unlocked taskmaster and so far love him, wanna know If he's useful outside of war
I wish this video had been out a few years ago when I started - if you're jumping on now definitely take this advice especially focusing on DD2 first. That one hit close to home.
Great life advice for young people as well. You havnt invested in the characters/skills that lose value over time. You invest in the ones you know keep value and race to the finish line!
I wish I had watched these videos when I started in march last year. I sort of splurged all my beginner blue/purple gear into several mediocre teams or characters (nebula and gamora), or teams that were good at the time but have been power crept. Granted, Defenders were still the best starter team when I started iirc, so I don't feel too bad about investing in them for so long.I'm only just entering DD2 soon after about a year lol The plus side is I have so many alien spores that I can take Symbiote, Carnage and Anti in.
When I reached level 70 and could get gear tier 13 I found that I had superior gear pieces for roughly five characters if I used one from each trait (bio, tech, mystic, mutant and skill). I chose Symbiote Spiderman, Hela, Minn-erva, Emma and Hawkeye. I played the first node and the used auto on the rest. Looking back the only one I might change is Hawkeye to Zemo because Zemo is now in the raid store. Level 7 abilities I had were the ultimates on Hela and SSM. Hope this helps :)
Well, interesting video. I have started a new account a bit over 130 days ago and I am at lvl 71. I started DD1 as soon as it was available since i found it much easier to get 5 characters to 6* than reaching lvl 70 which is needed to even have the character level to fully equip g13. I had Thor, Sif, Heimdall, Rhyno and Toad and for the last three nodes Captain America as well. I finished DD1 at the same level i started it and had still to wait for a couple more level to wait until i could start DD2 (and it took 5 days for both DD2 runs combined). My arena team started with Hulk, Thor, Cap, Hawkeye and Shield Medic. Over time i replaced Hawkeyea and the Medic with Sif and Heimdall and finally ended up with Minn-Erva and all Asgardians aside from Loki. This resulted me finishing in the top 5 for the first 3 month, top 10 in the 4th month and now unfortunately only top 20 because of an emergence in arena teams with Symbiotes, Dadbros and/or Silver Surfer. I have a g13 4*/4RS Symbiote Spiderman and yet it took getting another 4 City characters to g12 to barely beat the first 3 nodes in Heroes 7. Currently i am stuck at Heroes 7.4 with a team of 4 characters at g12 (Hulk, Cap, Iron Man, Shield Trooper) and Cyclops at g13 but I can barely beat half of the opposing forces. Any advice for that? I think the cosmic nodes won't be a problem.
Best strike force video since I’ve played the game, I’m level 77 and never understood what I really needed to do other than get my legendarys, your a live saver
This guide covers everything except the one single biggest question, which is how the hell to get anything to six stars in the first place. I started off as a new player with Wave 1. Cap is up at 5* thanks to the daily login gift, the rest of them are at 4* and increasing at a rate of two shards every other day thanks to campaign nodes. It'll be at least 4 months before any of the rest of them reach 6*. Meanwhile, I have my S6 all at 3*, increasing at the marginally better rate of 5 shards a day. Maybe they'll be ready in 3 months. I'm buying Mister Sinister, Zemo, Minn-Erva, and Ghost whenever they pop up in the shop, getting 5-10 shards a week, so it'll be a solid year before any of them are at 6*. I farmed the White Tiger and Moon Knight events pretty much 24/7 while they were happening and managed a whole 50 shards for each of them, which is functionally useless. I also have my Emma, Yo-yo, Shatterstar, and Longshot all at 3*, but I have no idea how to build any of them any further. Farming Symbiote Spider-man is a joke with his 3% drop rate, he's a solid two years away at least. All I'm doing at this point is sitting on a bunch of 3* GT10 characters, farming my 3-5 shards a day of useful characters in hopes I might get to start playing the game sometime next year. My problem isn't wasting resources on bad characters, it's not having anything to do with my good ones.
You can get 4 characters to 6 stars by farming their nodes every day. What he’s saying is that Ultron is so powerful that he can carry any other 6 stars you happen to have.
Focus on a character from each of the stores for DD1. This allows you to use your currency fairly effectively. I spent my blitz and raid currency on orbs until I had most of the store at 5.5-6 stars. Blitz characters are generally fastest. You get a minimum amount of Blitz credits from daily tasks, milestones for each blitz character, and 3+ blitz rotations a day. You can usually buy 2-3 characters every day or 1 character 2-3 times a day. Orbs are faster/better value, but less specific. Arena store at 5 shards a day means 150 shards in one month.
Yeah. I'm farming Cap/Widow/Hawkeye/Night Nurse from campaign and buying Swarm, Rhino, Electro, and one of Sinister/Ghost/Minn-erva from the store every day, along with 1-2 extra Blitz orbs and Zemo whenever he pops up. Best case scenario, that still puts me 3-4 months away from being able to progress at all. Can't get into DD1 without 300-400 more shards for every character, can't get into 7-1 campaigns or DD2 without gaining another 20 player levels first.
@@rachelespiritu4215 I wouldn't expect to do dd1 until at least level 65. It will take you forever if you are using characters that are much below that. DD2 requires level 70, so you don't need to rush. DD1 is 6-9 months into the game for most people.
I just started playing this game today, and after playing swgoh for a couple of years, I gotta say that I am enjoying this game far more right now and think I'll be focusing more on this game from now on.
Hey Phil! I know you've mentioned in some streams wanting to make another one of these videos and I don't know how much my experience will help, but I'm 73 and about half way to 74 and something I realized just now is that I wish I had been putting more of my elite war credits into the orange gear orbs instead of the purple gear orbs. I'm certainly glad I got web warriors. They're a great team that help me IMMENSELY in raids, but I need to be more laser focused on making a few great teams instead of a bunch of good teams. ie; don't try building h4h just yet, maybe I don't need the dark hunters right away. As I've seen every content creator I've watched mention the fast pace of content creep. which makes me wonder, its quite possible that by the time I'm 85, there may very well be a better team for almost everything I'm doing and using right now. Anyway, I just thought maybe my personal anecdote might help or give preemptive feedback toward "Path to Power 2 'The Empowering'"
Great video. Worth subscribing. I was worried 'cause I don't have any legendary yet (121 days into the game) 'cause I focused on my Dark Dimension characters. I just beat DD1 and DD2 twice yesterday and am currently farming for Phoenix and Ebony Maw unlock for DD3 and later. I'm glad I made that decision.
Master. If I have the latest meta, SamCap, phyla, Gatorade, nebula, moondragon, all at 2 or 3 stars. Do I still need two be picking 5 people from the DD infographic you mentioned for dd2? What other people should I be working on to be able to complete dd?
good explanation. I messed up my main account by spreading gear and wanting kegendaries that people said were important. so started a low spending account today.
Thanks Phil! Just beat DD2 for the first time (haven't done DD1 yet as you suggested because I don't have the 6 stars) with 130 days played. Team was Sersi, Ikaris, Zemo, Sam, Kestral. I eventually just 3 manned it with Sersi, Ikaris, Kestral and did the whole thing on auto. I had to revive Kestral once because an enemy Loki made my Ikaris DESTROY my Kestral.
That's a really insightful bit, that this is more of a resource management game than a hero collection game. And not realizing it leads to a lot of disappointment among people who start playing the game because they like the heroes, and that's really all they care about. The whole gacha thing is a gimmick to milk your wallet by exploiting your weaknesses anyway, but this simple precept leads to a lot of bad expectations, and I think companies could manage that better (if greed didn't prevent it; dishonesty seems to come natural to the lot of them). Good video. I always prefer "how to fish" information over narrow recipes on which fish are "the best" and where they can be fished for in which order that the person giving the advice thinks best. When I started looking for info, so much of what I found was twice outdated already because that's what it concentrated on.
I love this this game I am a marvel fanatic however after looking at many games didn't like them started playing strike force couldn't play it didn't understand it ISO drove me crazy and I haven't even had to deal with them yet however I ran across your video philosopher and I guarantee you open my eyes wide open I understand farming who the phone why the phone where the phone when the phone I understand a lot of time thank you for this video
Another quick question Philosopher? If you will, what do the numbers in the wheel below the toons on your DD3 & DD4 theory info graphic mean? Thanks in advance.
I’ve seen Baron Zemo is some of the info graphics as someone thats good for late game that wasn’t mentioned in your graphic. Thoughts on taking him to DD2 and DD3?
Great guide. Question: who would be better for Dd2, minnerva or ghost? I know minnerva has the reputation of queen of Dd2, I'm just wondering if she's been surpassed by ghost.
After completing DD1/2 the first time, do you continue to get decent Gold rewards every additional attempt or do the rewards dry up or decline heavily please?
Have a question regarding DD2 - I have lined up Minn-Erva, Hela, Ghost & Emma, all currently at G12 (still gathering G13 pieces) and at least 6/6/6/4 (have some T4s on all of them apart from ME), however I haven't unlocked SSM yet, need 15 more shards & am dependent on them dropping from milestone orbs, which could take a while. Is there an alternative for SSM I could focus on or should I just wait until I get him?
@@PhilosopherMSF great stuff - thanks for the prompt reply! Not worrying about DD3/DD4 just yet, I'm light years away from even thinking about starting those, it'll be a while before I have gear pieces for G14/15 :D
I wish I had this advice when I first started playing, when I started, i was just upgrading any random teams and characters, that I liked at the time, I took a break from playing, for a long time, and recently started again, just under 3.5 TCP, I've recently completed dd2 and dd1 twice, in that order, and am now preparing for dd3, im going to take Emma, ghost, sinister, ssm, and minnerva as my first 5, then will have phoenix and maw there next events, I'm at a disadvantage though as I wasted some gear In the beginning, but I feel I've made progress alot since playing again, due to having advice from my alliance members, and content creators like yourself, do you think the first 5 I mentioned would be fine to start with, or should I hold out untill I have phoenix and maw, whenever there next events would be, and maybe if I hold on I could upgrade anti - venom and scream/venom in the mean time, what do you think, keep up the good work, and if new players listen to advice given, they would be in a better position and wouldn't make mistakes like me☺ lol
I wish I had this guide when I started the game. I am lvl 70 120 days in and I just beat dd2 today with emma ssm hela sinister and minerva. I followed a guide that said start with guardians/sin6 and it was a waste of time.
Planning on going for Asgardians- should I just work on Wave 1 Avengers and Sinister 6 (for Villains) until the proper Asgardian toons pop up in the store? I played for about a year starting with the launch, but then left until this past week. Decided to restart and return
If you are at the top of your alliance Total Collection Power and outpacing many, if they aren't participating at a level you wan to, or they make demands of you that you aren't willing to uphold.
Clicking on your discord link does not give me an invitation so I'm going to ask the question here: Based on your list, I got 2 teams in mind: - Ghost (% dmg + offense down etc), Mister Sinister (heal + copy tanks), Minn-Erva (heal, % dmg + res), Silver Surfer (crowd control with damage) and Hela (spreading debuffs and removing deathproof). - Ghost, Mister Sinister, Minn-Erva and the Dadbros. I don't got Longshot atm so that team might take a while to get. I don't got Mister Sinister (can get from war store) or Silver Surfer (credit card can get him). Which team would you recommend and why (considering arena and raid)? If other nice and experienced people wanna reply, then that will be pleasantly welcomed :) + Great video.
@@PhilosopherMSF Yes, the link works. Yes, the teams are supposed to be DD2+ teams based on your list (with the exception of Silver Surfer) while also trying to make them usable in Arena/Raids :) I already got a strong W1 team, so I could just go Hulk/Cpt America/Thor +2 of the DD2+ characters as well for the raid team.
@@PhilosopherMSF Hey there. Same question for the Wave 1 team...I went to MSF.gg and saw the recommendations for Iso, but are you saying regardless of that to put Healer on all of them?
@@rwockenf For Raids. Some tough campaign nodes like Doom War will also want more healer iso-8 than normal. For one and done battles like Arena/Blitz/War you don't need extra healing in most cases.
Can you help me get on the discord? I clicked the link and it brought me to this screen that said "download on Google play" but I already have discord but I clicked download anyways and it just brought me into the server I was in last
As far as i can tell, the biggest problem for new-ish player is the doom campaign, to get the right teams and start to farm that gear, doom 1-5, 1-7 etc.
In general, I came to realize that the Doom War campaign is designed for people who have finished DD2 and into or planning DD3. Your teams need to be Gear tier 11 or higher, except in rare cases. This means you need 5+ teams that are close to GT12, some of whom aren't particularly high value teams. Many of my attempts involved at least 1 team member who was GT 13 or 14, such as Black Bolt, Thor, or Invisible Woman.
Only DD1 requires star levels. More is better, but 3 is usually doable. They will get stronger as you go. Newer/more powerful characters will be tougher even at lower stars. Zemo at 3 stars is going to be a stronger skill/global character than Black Widow at 3 stars as an example.
thanks for the content, i still think a good chunk of new player information is missing such as character origins and building toons up strategically, the importance of training materials and where its best to just build one team to do everthing..that will run short quickly when progressing thru campaign and pursuing legendaries.
It's definitely not a complete guide on what to do. It is more or less a starting point that gives you a philosophy on how to play the game. I will have to figure out how to expand this into a more complete series for new players.
I went, and am still going, for guardians first and now I’m wondering if I’ve made a huge mistake. Should I keep pushing for guardians or go for avengers? (My guardians are at 4* and gear tier 10)
Yes, you have made a big mistake. One reason I made this guide is because there is a lot of disinformation out there. I also went Guardians due to bad advice and they are trash right now (April 2021).
Question my brother I see you made a video for the newer players are you going to do the same thing and make it a detail guide like you did in this video for endgame players I’ve become a fan of yours and I’ll be looking forward to the endgame video for guidelines keep up the good work
You have the knowledge path to power very impressive only 1 thing i disagree on im currently on the second run dd3 and i stopped at doom campaign 3,6 not gonna invest on power armor they are not good and falling fast got plenty of orange skill gear from completing dd1,2,3 im free to play currently at 6.5 mil tcp just over a year of play i enjoy your channel keep them coming peace out .
Dang I am super impulsive and I am just unlocking as many characters as possible and trying to level them all so i can spend all day playing blitz mode oops. Also I quit the game for like 2 years so probably most of my characters are not good anymore. But I do have 2 Wave 1 Avengers and 2 Sinister Six characters So I guess i can start farming Wave 1 Avengers and Sinister Six to complete those teams and power them up. Don't feel like starting all over even if it gives me an advantage with new player bonuses. I do not want to farm back my 44 characters even if most of them are obsolete.
hey philosopher, for dd2, i have sym spidey only at 3 ys and 1rs. if i gear him up to g13, could he beat heroes 7.1 solo? i just need to 1 star the node..
This team (with same YS, but 3RS) with AV got 3* on auto: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718643373787054121/778458729888743464/image0.png I'm not entirely sure, but I would try it with SSM solo and add Squirrel Girl in blue gear or some purple gear and other characters as needed to get it to 1*. Good luck!
I'm farming good characters instead of farming bad characters only to unlock legendaries, until i have zemo, mr sinister, ghost and minn erva at full stars is when i will go to farm characters to unlock the important legendaries (Star lord is definitely out of my plans)
It is RARELY worth the concerted effort to farm characters to full stars. They are all playable at 3+, and all are great at 5 or 6 stars. The amount of time it takes to farm a character from 5 to 6 to 7 is astronomically longer than the first 5 levels. 310 shards gets you to 5 yellow stars. Another 200 gets you to 6 ys (2/3 the time it took to go from 1-5). 300 more shards to go from 6-7 is essentially the same amount of time to go from 1-5 ys. If you buy 5 shards a day from arena, that farming for one character to go up from 6 to 7 stars is 2 months. You are generally better off stopping your active farming at 6 ys unless they are important for a recurring event. They will naturally get to 7 stars eventually from blitzes, orbs, and event milestones.
When I click on the Discord link, it just takes me to the Discord home page, even if I'm already logged into Discord. Is there some trick to following the link?
Same thing happened to me. It must have been a typo in the discord link on this video. If you go to his About page, the correct discord link it there. It just worked for me.
Well, they don't call me chaos fer nuthin'! I didn't even look at those dark dimensions at all fer months! Listening to your explanation and logic just baffles me cause I had but one goal right from the start...get Doc Ock. I learned what I had to do to obtain him and marched towards my goal. I did DD1 first (which was like doing homework or mowing a football field with a push mower! It hurt! lol! Sometime later I saw that I could do DD2 and I did twice. Do you know how I carefully picked my team?... I didn't. You know how the game will just throw up your top characters? That's who I used! Doc Ock, Sue Storm, Ghost Rider, Rhino and...? Oh yeah! Shocker! Well, they worked perfectly and I did not lose a single battle. I am currently doing it a 3rd time as an achievement (but no payout!...sigh) Well, it took nearly a year, but I do believe I have found the best most informative channel! I will next join your discord! Much appreciated, hombre'! \m/
‘The people who do well in arena are the people who manage their stuff efficiently’ no not really the people who do well in arena are the people who have money to spend.
3:24 spot on. It’s unfortunate relevant characters become weak in this game when new ones are released. If Scopely didn’t care about greed, they would be able to allow players to choose who you like and wreck other teams how you see fit. That would be more enjoyable than being “forced” to build the new Kestrel because she’s just brokenly OP, for example. Eventually this game will be ruined, unless they rebuild characters like they did with Gamora.
This game is only p2w, f2p is dead, if your thinking of joining and jumping in, don’t waste your time. There is 0 customer support and bugs in all game modes that will never be addressed.
If I could only recommend one msf video to watch it would be this. Clear , well presented, informative. Good job! I finally don't feel so lost !
Thank you very much!
This is great. I'm glad someone is showing "how to play" instead of just asking "what to do".
Thank you very much!
@Alfonso Jonas I don’t think AI can have relationships
An ACTUAL guide! So thankful I've followed you since you've started to branch out from guest spots on other TH-cam videos. Fantastic work Philosopher 👏
Been playing about 9 months... This seems like a GREAT guide for where I am. Gonna set aside some time to watch it today. Thank you!
Thank you for the kind words!
This is way better than other "msf farming guides" that just talk wich characters to farm as if we play the game since it's inception and we know what we're doing.
Thank you very much.
This guy is awesome, calm, collected, clear, concise, no manic screaming n shouting. Great advice, super analysis too, I'm lvl 69 with a lot coming at me soon, so this is all great info.
You deserve 10000'S of views man!
I really appreciate your feedback! Please let me know on the Discord if there are other questions or guides you want to see.
Views are coming. He has great content
@@PhilosopherMSF no worries, I'm slow with my compliments here lol but God damn it you deserve props!!, ima check out your discord, just unlocked taskmaster and so far love him, wanna know If he's useful outside of war
@@rndmadam1982 Yes, especially in the Skill nodes of the Doom Raid far down the line.
I wish this video had been out a few years ago when I started - if you're jumping on now definitely take this advice especially focusing on DD2 first. That one hit close to home.
Thank you, Jose.
Great life advice for young people as well.
You havnt invested in the characters/skills that lose value over time. You invest in the ones you know keep value and race to the finish line!
I wish I had watched these videos when I started in march last year. I sort of splurged all my beginner blue/purple gear into several mediocre teams or characters (nebula and gamora), or teams that were good at the time but have been power crept.
Granted, Defenders were still the best starter team when I started iirc, so I don't feel too bad about investing in them for so long.I'm only just entering DD2 soon after about a year lol The plus side is I have so many alien spores that I can take Symbiote, Carnage and Anti in.
When I reached level 70 and could get gear tier 13 I found that I had superior gear pieces for roughly five characters if I used one from each trait (bio, tech, mystic, mutant and skill). I chose Symbiote Spiderman, Hela, Minn-erva, Emma and Hawkeye. I played the first node and the used auto on the rest. Looking back the only one I might change is Hawkeye to Zemo because Zemo is now in the raid store. Level 7 abilities I had were the ultimates on Hela and SSM. Hope this helps :)
You’re a freaking god amongst me. I just so happened to glance at this comment and it’s exactly what I needed to see!
Well, interesting video. I have started a new account a bit over 130 days ago and I am at lvl 71. I started DD1 as soon as it was available since i found it much easier to get 5 characters to 6* than reaching lvl 70 which is needed to even have the character level to fully equip g13. I had Thor, Sif, Heimdall, Rhyno and Toad and for the last three nodes Captain America as well. I finished DD1 at the same level i started it and had still to wait for a couple more level to wait until i could start DD2 (and it took 5 days for both DD2 runs combined). My arena team started with Hulk, Thor, Cap, Hawkeye and Shield Medic. Over time i replaced Hawkeyea and the Medic with Sif and Heimdall and finally ended up with Minn-Erva and all Asgardians aside from Loki. This resulted me finishing in the top 5 for the first 3 month, top 10 in the 4th month and now unfortunately only top 20 because of an emergence in arena teams with Symbiotes, Dadbros and/or Silver Surfer. I have a g13 4*/4RS Symbiote Spiderman and yet it took getting another 4 City characters to g12 to barely beat the first 3 nodes in Heroes 7. Currently i am stuck at Heroes 7.4 with a team of 4 characters at g12 (Hulk, Cap, Iron Man, Shield Trooper) and Cyclops at g13 but I can barely beat half of the opposing forces. Any advice for that? I think the cosmic nodes won't be a problem.
Excellent info. Wished I had seen this a year ago when i started. Love your content.
Scopely absolutely loves it if you are impulsive and a big spender
Best strike force video since I’ve played the game, I’m level 77 and never understood what I really needed to do other than get my legendarys, your a live saver
I've been looking for beginner vids for a week and a half and have watched MANY videos. This is the one I've been looking for. Thank you!
I'm really glad it was helpful!
This was very helpful. Currently at level 63. Been spending more than I should. This will help me though. Thanks.
Thank you!
This guide covers everything except the one single biggest question, which is how the hell to get anything to six stars in the first place.
I started off as a new player with Wave 1. Cap is up at 5* thanks to the daily login gift, the rest of them are at 4* and increasing at a rate of two shards every other day thanks to campaign nodes. It'll be at least 4 months before any of the rest of them reach 6*. Meanwhile, I have my S6 all at 3*, increasing at the marginally better rate of 5 shards a day. Maybe they'll be ready in 3 months. I'm buying Mister Sinister, Zemo, Minn-Erva, and Ghost whenever they pop up in the shop, getting 5-10 shards a week, so it'll be a solid year before any of them are at 6*. I farmed the White Tiger and Moon Knight events pretty much 24/7 while they were happening and managed a whole 50 shards for each of them, which is functionally useless. I also have my Emma, Yo-yo, Shatterstar, and Longshot all at 3*, but I have no idea how to build any of them any further. Farming Symbiote Spider-man is a joke with his 3% drop rate, he's a solid two years away at least. All I'm doing at this point is sitting on a bunch of 3* GT10 characters, farming my 3-5 shards a day of useful characters in hopes I might get to start playing the game sometime next year. My problem isn't wasting resources on bad characters, it's not having anything to do with my good ones.
You can get 4 characters to 6 stars by farming their nodes every day. What he’s saying is that Ultron is so powerful that he can carry any other 6 stars you happen to have.
Focus on a character from each of the stores for DD1. This allows you to use your currency fairly effectively. I spent my blitz and raid currency on orbs until I had most of the store at 5.5-6 stars. Blitz characters are generally fastest. You get a minimum amount of Blitz credits from daily tasks, milestones for each blitz character, and 3+ blitz rotations a day. You can usually buy 2-3 characters every day or 1 character 2-3 times a day. Orbs are faster/better value, but less specific. Arena store at 5 shards a day means 150 shards in one month.
Yeah. I'm farming Cap/Widow/Hawkeye/Night Nurse from campaign and buying Swarm, Rhino, Electro, and one of Sinister/Ghost/Minn-erva from the store every day, along with 1-2 extra Blitz orbs and Zemo whenever he pops up. Best case scenario, that still puts me 3-4 months away from being able to progress at all. Can't get into DD1 without 300-400 more shards for every character, can't get into 7-1 campaigns or DD2 without gaining another 20 player levels first.
@@rachelespiritu4215 I wouldn't expect to do dd1 until at least level 65. It will take you forever if you are using characters that are much below that. DD2 requires level 70, so you don't need to rush. DD1 is 6-9 months into the game for most people.
My new favorite strike force streamer! My only issue is that the "pick any 5" includes many legendary characters.
Yes, it does. But there are plenty of farmable options, at least.
I just started playing this game today, and after playing swgoh for a couple of years, I gotta say that I am enjoying this game far more right now and think I'll be focusing more on this game from now on.
Follow all the cc on this game, you are fast becoming the best and most insightful
Thank you!
Philosoper really makes u feel like u can do anything. Love his content
Hey Phil! I know you've mentioned in some streams wanting to make another one of these videos and I don't know how much my experience will help, but I'm 73 and about half way to 74 and something I realized just now is that I wish I had been putting more of my elite war credits into the orange gear orbs instead of the purple gear orbs. I'm certainly glad I got web warriors. They're a great team that help me IMMENSELY in raids, but I need to be more laser focused on making a few great teams instead of a bunch of good teams. ie; don't try building h4h just yet, maybe I don't need the dark hunters right away.
As I've seen every content creator I've watched mention the fast pace of content creep. which makes me wonder, its quite possible that by the time I'm 85, there may very well be a better team for almost everything I'm doing and using right now.
Anyway, I just thought maybe my personal anecdote might help or give preemptive feedback toward "Path to Power 2 'The Empowering'"
Great video. Worth subscribing. I was worried 'cause I don't have any legendary yet (121 days into the game) 'cause I focused on my Dark Dimension characters. I just beat DD1 and DD2 twice yesterday and am currently farming for Phoenix and Ebony Maw unlock for DD3 and later. I'm glad I made that decision.
Master. If I have the latest meta, SamCap, phyla, Gatorade, nebula, moondragon, all at 2 or 3 stars. Do I still need two be picking 5 people from the DD infographic you mentioned for dd2? What other people should I be working on to be able to complete dd?
good explanation. I messed up my main account by spreading gear and wanting kegendaries that people said were important. so started a low spending account today.
great video what team do you suggest for nexus 8-7 to 8-9???
Thanks Phil! Just beat DD2 for the first time (haven't done DD1 yet as you suggested because I don't have the 6 stars) with 130 days played. Team was Sersi, Ikaris, Zemo, Sam, Kestral. I eventually just 3 manned it with Sersi, Ikaris, Kestral and did the whole thing on auto. I had to revive Kestral once because an enemy Loki made my Ikaris DESTROY my Kestral.
Congrats!
Nice….can I take eternals and new warriors into DD2 then DD3? Also Kestrel?
That's a really insightful bit, that this is more of a resource management game than a hero collection game. And not realizing it leads to a lot of disappointment among people who start playing the game because they like the heroes, and that's really all they care about. The whole gacha thing is a gimmick to milk your wallet by exploiting your weaknesses anyway, but this simple precept leads to a lot of bad expectations, and I think companies could manage that better (if greed didn't prevent it; dishonesty seems to come natural to the lot of them).
Good video. I always prefer "how to fish" information over narrow recipes on which fish are "the best" and where they can be fished for in which order that the person giving the advice thinks best. When I started looking for info, so much of what I found was twice outdated already because that's what it concentrated on.
Thank you. :)
I love this this game I am a marvel fanatic however after looking at many games didn't like them started playing strike force couldn't play it didn't understand it ISO drove me crazy and I haven't even had to deal with them yet however I ran across your video philosopher and I guarantee you open my eyes wide open I understand farming who the phone why the phone where the phone when the phone I understand a lot of time thank you for this video
Hey Philosopher. How would you think Kestral would do in DD3 & DD4? Been contemplating on bring her up to for it.
She will do very well.
Great. Thanks man. Keep your vids coming. The best MSF guy right now. Shh! Don’t tell those other guys. 😂😂😂
Another quick question Philosopher? If you will, what do the numbers in the wheel below the toons on your DD3 & DD4 theory info graphic mean? Thanks in advance.
I’ve seen Baron Zemo is some of the info graphics as someone thats good for late game that wasn’t mentioned in your graphic. Thoughts on taking him to DD2 and DD3?
Great guide. Question: who would be better for Dd2, minnerva or ghost? I know minnerva has the reputation of queen of Dd2, I'm just wondering if she's been surpassed by ghost.
She has been surpassed by Ghost. Good question.
Do not rely on old, outdated guides. Always ask, as you're doing.
I'm 5m tcp, in a Plat group..could have used this when I started! Doh!
After completing DD1/2 the first time, do you continue to get decent Gold rewards every additional attempt or do the rewards dry up or decline heavily please?
You only get rewards for the first two completions.
Thanks for this, sharing it
2:50 little did philosopher know that iron fist would soon be meta
Have a question regarding DD2 - I have lined up Minn-Erva, Hela, Ghost & Emma, all currently at G12 (still gathering G13 pieces) and at least 6/6/6/4 (have some T4s on all of them apart from ME), however I haven't unlocked SSM yet, need 15 more shards & am dependent on them dropping from milestone orbs, which could take a while. Is there an alternative for SSM I could focus on or should I just wait until I get him?
You can pick another character off the DD3 infographic and you'll be fine, but you don't want to bring any symbiotes to DD3/DD4 without SSM.
@@PhilosopherMSF great stuff - thanks for the prompt reply! Not worrying about DD3/DD4 just yet, I'm light years away from even thinking about starting those, it'll be a while before I have gear pieces for G14/15 :D
I wish I had this advice when I first started playing, when I started, i was just upgrading any random teams and characters, that I liked at the time, I took a break from playing, for a long time, and recently started again, just under 3.5 TCP, I've recently completed dd2 and dd1 twice, in that order, and am now preparing for dd3, im going to take Emma, ghost, sinister, ssm, and minnerva as my first 5, then will have phoenix and maw there next events, I'm at a disadvantage though as I wasted some gear In the beginning, but I feel I've made progress alot since playing again, due to having advice from my alliance members, and content creators like yourself, do you think the first 5 I mentioned would be fine to start with, or should I hold out untill I have phoenix and maw, whenever there next events would be, and maybe if I hold on I could upgrade anti - venom and scream/venom in the mean time, what do you think, keep up the good work, and if new players listen to advice given, they would be in a better position and wouldn't make mistakes like me☺ lol
Thank you for the very kind words!
I wish I had this guide when I started the game. I am lvl 70 120 days in and I just beat dd2 today with emma ssm hela sinister and minerva. I followed a guide that said start with guardians/sin6 and it was a waste of time.
Obviously iso lvl5 would be ideal but is it worth grinding those characters to iso lvl5 or is there a breakpoint you would suggest stopping?
ISO lvl 3 is fine.
Well thought out guide! Thank you!
I'm glad it helped you!
What about silver surfer, philosopher? It's not a top character to dark dimension?
I can't be sure yet, since he wasn't out when I completed DD4. I will take him into DD4 tomorrow to test.
@@PhilosopherMSF Did you do this? What was your results? I whaled on SS and interested to know if he can slot out someone else.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Big fan!
Planning on going for Asgardians- should I just work on Wave 1 Avengers and Sinister 6 (for Villains) until the proper Asgardian toons pop up in the store?
I played for about a year starting with the launch, but then left until this past week. Decided to restart and return
Work on all of the Asgardians you can and throw in Cap and Hulk to fill the missing pieces until they all pop up.
@@PhilosopherMSF Thank you! This video was so thorough and helpful. Much appreciated
Would you put Silver surfer into the DD list now?
I’ll put him on as a reasonable choice but I don’t know if he’s a high performer yet.
When should you move on from an alliance? As a midgame player
If you are at the top of your alliance Total Collection Power and outpacing many, if they aren't participating at a level you wan to, or they make demands of you that you aren't willing to uphold.
When the power of your roster outpaces their content. You want to be one of the smaller members in your alliance, outperforming your TCP.
Clicking on your discord link does not give me an invitation so I'm going to ask the question here:
Based on your list, I got 2 teams in mind:
- Ghost (% dmg + offense down etc), Mister Sinister (heal + copy tanks), Minn-Erva (heal, % dmg + res), Silver Surfer (crowd control with damage) and Hela (spreading debuffs and removing deathproof).
- Ghost, Mister Sinister, Minn-Erva and the Dadbros.
I don't got Longshot atm so that team might take a while to get. I don't got Mister Sinister (can get from war store) or Silver Surfer (credit card can get him). Which team would you recommend and why (considering arena and raid)? If other nice and experienced people wanna reply, then that will be pleasantly welcomed :)
+ Great video.
I'm currently dropping in Arena (160k W1 team vs 180-200k Asgardian/W1 teams), so me facing those teams might be interesting to have in consideration.
Does this link work? discord.gg/Wg2Y5jScTv
Are these teams for DD2?
@@PhilosopherMSF Yes, the link works.
Yes, the teams are supposed to be DD2+ teams based on your list (with the exception of Silver Surfer) while also trying to make them usable in Arena/Raids :)
I already got a strong W1 team, so I could just go Hulk/Cpt America/Thor +2 of the DD2+ characters as well for the raid team.
Hi i'm New to the game, should i buy the asgardians or armor of power offer?
No
@@PhilosopherMSF thank you
Just found this info instantly sub thank you very much
For the Sinister Six + Zemo team for the villains campaign, would healer ISO be put on all 5 members?
It would be put on S6 and you would use Raider on Zemo. Good question!
@@PhilosopherMSF Hey there. Same question for the Wave 1 team...I went to MSF.gg and saw the recommendations for Iso, but are you saying regardless of that to put Healer on all of them?
@@rwockenf For Raids. Some tough campaign nodes like Doom War will also want more healer iso-8 than normal. For one and done battles like Arena/Blitz/War you don't need extra healing in most cases.
Can you help me get on the discord? I clicked the link and it brought me to this screen that said "download on Google play" but I already have discord but I clicked download anyways and it just brought me into the server I was in last
Commenting to help your youtube algorithm :)
700k player here, gonna bookmark this badboi
Hela, Mr. Sin, ghost, minnerva and emma for DD2? Really? Please confirm..
yes that team is good, you can even use that team for DD3 and DD4 in the general nodes
Yes, they'll do well.
I know this is old but infinity watch would be good right even without warlock?
Yes, they're good for new players.
As far as i can tell, the biggest problem for new-ish player is the doom campaign, to get the right teams and start to farm that gear, doom 1-5, 1-7 etc.
Thank you for the feedback. I’ll think about doing a video about that to help newer players.
In general, I came to realize that the Doom War campaign is designed for people who have finished DD2 and into or planning DD3. Your teams need to be Gear tier 11 or higher, except in rare cases. This means you need 5+ teams that are close to GT12, some of whom aren't particularly high value teams. Many of my attempts involved at least 1 team member who was GT 13 or 14, such as Black Bolt, Thor, or Invisible Woman.
What number of stars do these characters need to work in DD. I could buy Symbiote and create that team but they won’t be 5 star?
That’s fine.
Only DD1 requires star levels. More is better, but 3 is usually doable. They will get stronger as you go. Newer/more powerful characters will be tougher even at lower stars. Zemo at 3 stars is going to be a stronger skill/global character than Black Widow at 3 stars as an example.
So I’m confused, do I need healer iso on all sin 6 characters or just one?
thanks for the content, i still think a good chunk of new player information is missing such as character origins and building toons up strategically, the importance of training materials and where its best to just build one team to do everthing..that will run short quickly when progressing thru campaign and pursuing legendaries.
It's definitely not a complete guide on what to do. It is more or less a starting point that gives you a philosophy on how to play the game. I will have to figure out how to expand this into a more complete series for new players.
Funny how Nebula is today (Sept. 2021) one of the most powerful characters! :-)
I went, and am still going, for guardians first and now I’m wondering if I’ve made a huge mistake. Should I keep pushing for guardians or go for avengers? (My guardians are at 4* and gear tier 10)
Yes, you have made a big mistake. One reason I made this guide is because there is a lot of disinformation out there. I also went Guardians due to bad advice and they are trash right now (April 2021).
Question my brother I see you made a video for the newer players are you going to do the same thing and make it a detail guide like you did in this video for endgame players I’ve become a fan of yours and I’ll be looking forward to the endgame video for guidelines keep up the good work
If you are endgame, and haven’t figured out what to do at that point, you’re probably beyond help
You have the knowledge path to power very impressive only 1 thing i disagree on im currently on the second run dd3 and i stopped at doom campaign 3,6 not gonna invest on power armor they are not good and falling fast got plenty of orange skill gear from completing dd1,2,3 im free to play currently at 6.5 mil tcp just over a year of play i enjoy your channel keep them coming peace out .
Can we get an update for this video?
If you could somehow increase your volume in your videos, that would be fantastic. Sometimes you get hard to hear.
Thank you ... sorry for the low volume!
Dang I am super impulsive and I am just unlocking as many characters as possible and trying to level them all so i can spend all day playing blitz mode oops. Also I quit the game for like 2 years so probably most of my characters are not good anymore. But I do have 2 Wave 1 Avengers and 2 Sinister Six characters So I guess i can start farming Wave 1 Avengers and Sinister Six to complete those teams and power them up. Don't feel like starting all over even if it gives me an advantage with new player bonuses. I do not want to farm back my 44 characters even if most of them are obsolete.
Is Zemo with S6 really better than Zemo Hydra for Villains 7?
Better for the long term, and roughly the same on the nodes.
Great video !
hey philosopher, for dd2, i have sym spidey only at 3 ys and 1rs. if i gear him up to g13, could he beat heroes 7.1 solo? i just need to 1 star the node..
This team (with same YS, but 3RS) with AV got 3* on auto: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718643373787054121/778458729888743464/image0.png
I'm not entirely sure, but I would try it with SSM solo and add Squirrel Girl in blue gear or some purple gear and other characters as needed to get it to 1*. Good luck!
I am so glad I haven't used a single orange gear yet...
I'm farming good characters instead of farming bad characters only to unlock legendaries, until i have zemo, mr sinister, ghost and minn erva at full stars is when i will go to farm characters to unlock the important legendaries (Star lord is definitely out of my plans)
Over time, you will farm them by accident. I unlocked starlord with lvl 50's gear 9. It was easy and not something I put much effort in.
It is RARELY worth the concerted effort to farm characters to full stars. They are all playable at 3+, and all are great at 5 or 6 stars. The amount of time it takes to farm a character from 5 to 6 to 7 is astronomically longer than the first 5 levels. 310 shards gets you to 5 yellow stars. Another 200 gets you to 6 ys (2/3 the time it took to go from 1-5). 300 more shards to go from 6-7 is essentially the same amount of time to go from 1-5 ys. If you buy 5 shards a day from arena, that farming for one character to go up from 6 to 7 stars is 2 months. You are generally better off stopping your active farming at 6 ys unless they are important for a recurring event. They will naturally get to 7 stars eventually from blitzes, orbs, and event milestones.
Could I do the shadowlands team as my city heros in DD instead of symbiotes? I have all the shadowlands team but only 1 symbiote.
No, they won't perform well enough in DD3.
Awesome video Philosopher!! But can you add timestamps to these kind of video's?
Honest answer -- I don't know how to do that.
At the end of the day, it's just not enough resorces... just gotta play the patient game
Philosopher is a pro at msf but a noob regarding car dealerships lol.
Fair enough! lol
Just shared this to Facebook for a newbie.
Thanks for letting me know. I hope it's able to help him.
I’m level 44 I’m using Hela, Silver Surfer, Rhino, Luke Cage and Scarlett Witch for my arena and blitz and raids
There’s no synergy in that comp
@@AGKapano well it’s working I’m ranked 34th
@@rednecksniper4715 considering that your in a beginner Arena shard that’s not surprising. But hey let’s see if that comp works in a months time
When I click on the Discord link, it just takes me to the Discord home page, even if I'm already logged into Discord. Is there some trick to following the link?
(The VoltageSauce link works as I would expect.)
Same thing happened to me. It must have been a typo in the discord link on this video. If you go to his About page, the correct discord link it there. It just worked for me.
@@AIFrog The link from the About page worked. Thanks!
Do you think this game will ever catch up to the Movies like adding Thor with Storm breaker or Infinity war Iron Man etc. Love the Content
I assume so, eventually.
Well, they don't call me chaos fer nuthin'! I didn't even look at those dark dimensions at all fer months! Listening to your explanation and logic just baffles me cause I had but one goal right from the start...get Doc Ock. I learned what I had to do to obtain him and marched towards my goal. I did DD1 first (which was like doing homework or mowing a football field with a push mower! It hurt! lol! Sometime later I saw that I could do DD2 and I did twice. Do you know how I carefully picked my team?... I didn't. You know how the game will just throw up your top characters? That's who I used! Doc Ock, Sue Storm, Ghost Rider, Rhino and...? Oh yeah! Shocker! Well, they worked perfectly and I did not lose a single battle. I am currently doing it a 3rd time as an achievement (but no payout!...sigh) Well, it took nearly a year, but I do believe I have found the best most informative channel! I will next join your discord! Much appreciated, hombre'! \m/
How many times can I achieve DD I ?
As many as you like. You only ever get non-cosmetic rewards from any DD two times.
@@kevinbarnard355 Yes that was my question. thx ^^
I got super lucky and got hela day 2 from a mega orb
‘The people who do well in arena are the people who manage their stuff efficiently’ no not really the people who do well in arena are the people who have money to spend.
manyyy f2p in top 10 in their shard.
@@bmark6971 really? My shard top 150 is ALL p2w players
Have you already got a DDII guide? If not is one coming?
No, it's not needed. Just pick five characters from the DD3 guide and you'll be fine. It's easy now with the new characters and ISO.
As someone who’s played a lot of time on ftp games, it felt SO unnatural to buy energy with the premium currency, but DAMN is it the only viable use.
3:24 spot on. It’s unfortunate relevant characters become weak in this game when new ones are released. If Scopely didn’t care about greed, they would be able to allow players to choose who you like and wreck other teams how you see fit. That would be more enjoyable than being “forced” to build the new Kestrel because she’s just brokenly OP, for example. Eventually this game will be ruined, unless they rebuild characters like they did with Gamora.
Can you make progression guide video
Thanks for the feedback. What exactly would you like me to talk about in that video?
@@PhilosopherMSF Video where you explain what should you do accordingly
@@PhilosopherMSF example complete campaign farm for .... Legendary then ...
you are
I’m level 61 🥶🥵
And after getting Ultron where is the path to power?
Watch it again dunce. Pay attention
Does anyone know how to get Thor he isn’t in the shop anymore 😔
This game is only p2w, f2p is dead, if your thinking of joining and jumping in, don’t waste your time. There is 0 customer support and bugs in all game modes that will never be addressed.
Lmao dudes name is fix ur scam scopely
Just buy, buy, buy like you did. Lol 😂🤣😂🤣🙉🙈🙊
Buying in and of itself doesn’t get you a good roster though...
@@osdnaosmsf3063 then what does it do?
@@ChessRabbitt gets you what you want sooner than waiting the F2P way.
Ya ya ya it’s all good but without spending money you ain’t gonna do jack shi....
i feel like you're a very sad person if ur a whale and u need guides