It’s probably cause he’s one of the best players in the world and knows how to deal with all the characters, which leads to appreciating the diversity instead of hating them. Also, found the guy who can’t beat jack lol
So youre fine with no logic characters like a fighting bear,a piece of fighting wood puppet,a devil,azazel,an ogre,boxing kangoroo,an ugly green goblin but a jpop idol is a nono?man your iq prolly 45
Asuka because of her instant parry. You have to be very sharp to chicken 90% of the parries. Ling because her evasions and back turned mix up is a pain in the ass.
Gauge characters add to the game and should be welcomed with open arms. "Ten years playing Tekken" yeah, you've spent ten years playing the same game, just with different graphics. Traditional fighters should add new gameplay every 5 years, because it's getting boring to watch
callum macaulay They arent the same, but they feel like they arent different at all. I cant point out exactly why, but Tekken had not changed it's formula since pretty much the beginning. Gauge characters dont break the game, and they should be a welcome addition to the cast. However, introducting this new mechanic through a character from another game isnt how you do it. Akuma sucks because he's a 2d character, and shouldnt be in a 3d fighting game. They just need time to polish the engine
fair enough i got nothing against gauge characters i think their cool im didn't agree you saying tekken been same the whole time no hate through your opinion
Noctis is so irrelevant , is so simple that people got bored of him so fast , really bad guest choice imo , i hope atleast he helped to hook new players into the game .
pog champ Play the matchup more. I think T7 characters have better ways to deal with his RLX stance compared to previous games and that his safe moves aren't that threatening anymore. The only thing you have to deal with now is the high-mid-low mixup which you can ease up by shutting down RLX.
Hugenius yeah it's easy to counter him now. Tekken 3 he was a fucking nightmare. And I'm surprised alot of people hating fireballs like it's the most easiest move to dodge and counter. Like they never played Tekken 5 and 6 and you could apply the same technique to other characters to counter them like jin and kazuya's electric uppercuts.
Dragunov's iWR2 is not that easy to pull off, people aren't even mad when someone pull off iWR2 three times in a row. Even JDCR sometimes botched his iWR2
Eliza is a tekken character.Remember Tekken Revolution? Plus while ppl are complaining projectile characters in tekken 7, apparently ppl have forgotten about the devil versions of jin, kazuya, and jinpachi, as well as alisa, angel, orge, azazel, and many others
I knew people would not like fireball implantation in Tekken. Its like putting direct hand to hand combat in a Soul Calibur game, it just doesn't belong. Energy Projectiles belong in games like SF lol
Tekken Players - Don't shake hands with Street Fighter players, don't look at them in their eyes. If you pass by a SF player, spit in their general direction and make barking noises.
Great editing and a different perspective of tekken/SF videos. It is nice to see them for a "mini" interviewers and get to know our favorite fighters weakness, opinions. Keep doing what you're doing. And good luck!
It cracks me up that a lot of people hate projectile characters haha! It's fair that they hate them for sure, but I tell you now, just as hard as it is going against them, they're also hard to win with. When was the last time you saw one in a grand final? I think Chanel used both Akuma and Eliza and they both got owned by Knee's Bryan. They do high damage but they're also easy to punish too.
I agree with that dude. I hate fireball characters. I love the original tekken because of the close combat martial arts fighting. Altho the later installments have them too they were kept to a minimum but this time its just too much. Still a fun game tho
Like many mentioned, forme it has to be Akuma, Geese and Eliza. I've never liked Street Fighter, never liked the idea of super bars, chip damage, projectiles etc. I've played Tekken since the very first game on PS1 to get away from all that. And now we have 3 monsters who can do all that shit and deal 70+% off a single move if they have meter.
ranzudezu I disagree. I don't think the characters are hard to master, I think the 2d characters have a different style of execution and movement. Not necessarily harder definitely a lot different than the proper Tekken cast
I don’t think I hate any Tekken characters design wise. But I hate fighting Steve, because he’s so fast and manages to keep himself really tightly guarded (like any good boxer should so kudos on the programmers). I also hate fighting Lily for her fakeouts, evasions, and unorthodox timing. But I’ve been playing Tekken since 3 (I’m 20 now) and in all that time the only character who I’m still actively afraid of if he’s used by a master is Eddy Gordo. Not often you find people who devote time to learning him, but I’ve had all of my mains/favorites laid out by an exceptional Eddy player in the past. It’s horrific I’m traumatized.
The problem I have with them is that only 1 guy gave a legit argument as to why Geese, Akuma and Eliza are hated. Because of their damage. Saying "is not tekken" is lazy, because you completely forget Noctis at that point.
Geese imo is the best guest character I've seen in a fighting game. I don't get why those people hate 2D characters. I presume it's because there was always this rivalry between 2D and 3D so they just kinda have to hate them. They aren't that strong tbh. Devil jin, Jack 7, Dragunov, Paul, Kazumi are way stronger when you look at the tiers. Noctis on the other hand can zone in tekken 7! But no one says his name cause there is no meterbar when you play him, even though he has a sort of fireball. I bet those people wouldn't mind seeing Goku as a guest character throwing kamehamehas and spirit bombs at people. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I find it kinda disappointing hearing "they don't belong in Tekken". As a 2D and 3D fighting game fan I'm happy to have them all together in one game.
People don't like changes, in general. In 3D fighting games the main focus always was close combat, you never fought on far distance. And suddenly a character appears who can throw projectiles and attack from very far distance. Actually, I'm OK with this, because I wanted to see a 3D fighting game with projectiles, I was waiting this for long, but a lot of people found this annoying.
Rei Ranmaru and yeah longtime tekken players find this annoying as hell bc most characters movesets are close combat based, so when u throw in fireballs and shit the only thing that the original tekken cast can do is sidestep, until ur opponent decides to stop firing the fireballs or fucks up their input in which case u can ATTEMPT to run up and punish them if u dont get hit by a invincible shoryuken or some bullshit :)so u just kinda have to trust ur opponent not to be a dick which is usually not the case if theyre using geese and akuma or whatnot they spam fireballs all the time. In conclusion the inclusion of fireballs and 2d characters gives the original tekken community a mild form of cancer.
I can understand people saying her gameplan is confusing, to an extent. But she takes high risk high reward to the maximum, yet most the time the risk is a bit too much. Which makes her definately not suited for high level play, not only that she's pretty linear once you get to know her. So yeah she struggles hard.
I'm very surprised no one said Devil Jin. As a DVJ player, I will have to admit, his hell sweep chip is pretty disgusting and fast when you fall to it. Albeit not safe, you will most likely fall to it most of the time.
Nah, DJ ain't that bad tbh. Very unsafe on a lot of blocks. He's only bad when ur a Tekken scrub and you don't know what to do against his flying moves and lasers. Your scrub brain just freezes everytime he leaves the ground. After you've played a while though, he starts getting a bit predictable tbh.
My least favourite characters are Lili, the bears, and Lucky Chloe. Even as someone who plays Chloe a tad bit, I have to say that her high damage output with combos is undeserved, since the combos are very, very easy to pull off, and come out of almost nowhere with her weird launchers. At least in my opinion.
I got to agree with hating the Bears. I get this uncomfortable anxiety everytime I need to fight a Bear. You don't know what move they'll ruin your day with
I was watching Knee fight two really good Geese players on his stream and I was thinking: Harada actually has created a blueprint for a whole new fighting game with these 2D characters. These are the first characters in history to fully utilise the strenbths of both 2D and 3D fighting. usually these hybrids are 2D fighters with 3D graphics. It's kind of amazing.
Majin spoke the truth. Other dudes hated characters due to unpredictability coz they are too stupid. Or orientations. But an elite gamer like Majin saw past these and kept it professional.
Besides of Akuma and Geese I hate Noctis, Gigas and Bob. Everyone else are either okay in my eyes or are characters that I like. And yes, that includes Lucky Chloe who gets lot of hate from many people for no good reason.
I just hate lucky Chloe because she doesn’t fit the tekken aesthetic, her lore is trash and her combo damage most of the time is deserved She’s just a cheap bare bones thought of a character that doesn’t belong in a great franchise like tekken
For me it’s kaz. I play Jin so it’s not like I hate mishima’s but you never forget the first time you get uf4 spammed by kaz in blue ranks. That’s where Tekken boys become Tekken men, very jaded “why do I play a game that pisses me off?” Type of Tekken men. Plus the entire 50/50 gameplay just becomes “is this kaz gonna hellsweep me or ewgf me because he does literally nothing else.”
Nobody said noctis. Maybe only because he doesn't have meter and extremely high damage. Geese and Akuma all have viable death combos. Eliza is situational sometimes
Think the hate for Jack and Xiaoyu were the most well elaborated cases for sure, especially with Xiaoyu. "It's like you can't play regular Tekken" really does sum up what it feels like to go on the defensive against her, and it's been the case for like three times now. And Lil Majin would know about the headaches of Jack. lol The hate for the projectile guest characters would be more valid imo if the characters in question were breaking Tekken 7 horrifically at the competitive level or something but as of EVO 2018 that doesn't seem to be the case at all, so the hate seems to be more just that they're "not Tekken characters" which is a bit silly to be because that was kind of the point of the guest characters, but to each their own. Everything else is just preferential and it's all good, but who the hell hates on Yoshimitsu's weirdness? Get outta here with that. lol
I think Saint said it best. T7 is pretty balanced overall - some characters have super high risk/high reward scenarios (Akuma, Lucky Chloe)... but once you know what to look out for they are pretty straightforward to deal with (last time anyone made top 8 at a major with Chloe?). Most of the answers about who they hate were simply characters they couldn't figure out or couldn't block mixups :)
Been playing since Tekken 2 and I really dont see what's so wrong with 2d characters on the game. The only things i really see wrong with it is that Akuma can spam his warp thingy and you literally cant do anything against it. But other than that it's not too bad. Keep your range, sidestep and punish. Once I started playing Geese I realized that it's really not that bad. The catch with 2d characters in tekken is that it's hard as hell to win with them. Poor backdashes, poor sidesteps, etc. Notcis on the other hand; a tekken character; can zone just like a 2d character except you can barely sidestep it and its piss easy to win with him. Why is no one hating on noctis?
cause when people play noctis they still play tekken when you play as akuma you playing streetfighter against tekken characters. it just feels weird for tekken players to play street fighter.
Josie, xiaoyu, hworoang (however you spell it) i feel like I'm getting smothered when I fight them. Paul cause I always get smacked with deathfists. And also drag because he feels tiresome to fight against. Also, why are there 2 bears? Lol Could've had Julia
My main problem with Tekken 7 is that is more of an "half Tekken" game than an full one like the previous tittles, the game lacks several stample characters from the franchise, i hope that in Tekken 8 or Tekken Tag Tournament 3 will feature all the chatacters of the franchise including the new ones.
I don't like Josie. They replaced Bruce Irvin with this clone, that doesn't even do anything new. She has, not only the same attacks, but the same attack animations, with no Josie-ism to speak of. Total BS.
If you're gonna hate on Josie, you should loathe Gigas. He looks like a really strong character but ends up being a painfully nerfed Marduk clone lmao.
Saint was the best player they asked this question to and he said he loves all characters... coincidence? You don’t like a character, learn the matchup. That being said, certain characters are quite annoying to listen to. Lucky Chloe and Alisa have ear piercing voices that I just can’t fukn stand. But in terms of fighting against them, no big deal. The black dude who plays king (can’t remember his name right now) that said he hates jack-7 does have a point though. Jackhammer is a ridiculously good move and having multiple safe low hits is kinda dumb.
Games'n' Guitar Fuck the match up. That's bullshit. I'm not going to play as a broken-ass character to beat another cheap broken bastard. That's the cowards way out.
@@neintimesthegeek1337 welp, he said learn the matchup, not "counter pick the opponent". You can use your favorite character to beat the opponent by learning the matchup
Trend: People that play nothing but Tekken hate the 2D characters, want them removed from the game. People that actually do play 2D games as well as Tekken enjoy them for what they are, and remember they have 32 Tekken characters (+Noctis) to play and fight against.
Slade Joseph Wilson No nigga, we play Tekken to get away from the conventions of 2d fighters. Adding that weak ass shit defeats the purpose of gravitating towards Tekken in the first place.
+SDub817 Nah kid. You suck at adapting to 2d fighters. People play 3d fighters because they like them or because they are lenient. It's not to get away from a different variation. Next time put some thought into what you said.
Most of the people complaining just have no answer for akuma, geese, or eliza. Complaining about a character is not tekken. Going to training mode and figuring out how to stop those characters. NOW THATS TEKKEN!
Block+punish. Learn to low parry, side step, and side roll. Legit just go into practice mode and learn punishes. It's what it's there for. Akuma and Geese aren't even that hard to fight compared to some of the other cast members
"If you put in Ryu and Ken, were really gonna Fight in the Street"
-classic
Harada after watching this : next tekken game only Mokujin and female Mokujin.
H. K. Whos that?
Kinjin is Mokujin but out of gold. "Kin" in japanese means "gold" and "jin" means "human".
Knee would be the guaranteed world champion lol
And Testujin
He should put Joey back in the next Tekken
jeondding hates his own character lmao
Chesty McGee i kinda think he didn't catch the question i mean why would he play a low tier character which he hates ? Makes no sense
Eddy too is a low tier character
I think he just likes that style of character, high risk but, on a read, the reward is there
@@noFUN67 the more you hate, the more you love lol
jeondding is the true lowtiergod
Maybe he meant to play against
Of course the jack player likes all of the characters. If you find any enjoyment from playing jack then you'll love anything lol
Lmfao that comment was perfect!!
Btw Yu Yu Hakusho for life my dude!!!
hey koenma !
It’s probably cause he’s one of the best players in the world and knows how to deal with all the characters, which leads to appreciating the diversity instead of hating them. Also, found the guy who can’t beat jack lol
Lmao
DS Feats aren’t quite a few people answering this question in this video some of the best players in the world? lol
2020 Edition -
Everyone: Leroy
I wanna do a newer version of this video but 3 straight minutes of "Leroy" wouldnt work :/
Fahkumram
@@allansouza9834 Fahkumram
Add my main,luckyyy chloeee
@@tundraleech Chloe hate is *sooooo* 2018.
My man Saint lovin all the characters, lez go
cutcc saint seems like the most chill dude ever lol he seems like he’d be cool to hang out with
He loves all the characters cause he can body any of them with that cheap ass Jack-7 lol seems like a funny dude
Props to him
cutcc 😆 of course he does. I’m sure Knee does as well.
"I like every teen character"
Saint-"he's gone" god i love him
ganryu :(
Saint is such a sweetheart lol
Yeah he's really a good guy :D TastySteve said that it's very fun to hang out with him
Watch him commentate with JDCR in WNF. It's like hearing the usual hype Korean commentators.
I loved how you interviewed the foreign players too
Can't leave out Korea/Japan if we're talking Tekken!
Technically the Western players are the foreigners, the game is made exclusively in Japan and is popularized as an e-sport by S. Korea, but okay.
@@inkredibill6352 🤓
Bring Ganryu back!
Yes please
i am the < 1% that mains the fat bastard.
Tessa, he was my main, so much fun.
I'm the 0.0001% that mains Roger Jr.
Lmao
Lucky. Chloe.
"Yeah let's put an overpowered weeb character into the game. Make sure she tortures the hell out of eddy in her ending too."
I know right... like "Let's put Pandas, Demons, Stalkers such as Ganryu, Robot Ninjas in a game but a Weeb?????" No
i like lucky chloe because shes so stupid,that shes funny
So youre fine with no logic characters like a fighting bear,a piece of fighting wood puppet,a devil,azazel,an ogre,boxing kangoroo,an ugly green goblin but a jpop idol is a nono?man your iq prolly 45
@@tundraleech found the lc player
@@TKMacsta I used to play lc.I came back to lili and also main alisa now, im learning her
Asuka because of her instant parry. You have to be very sharp to chicken 90% of the parries.
Ling because her evasions and back turned mix up is a pain in the ass.
Really interesting! Kinda surprised nobody said Paul
Can't wait for Devil Paul, "Fear the wrath of AUUUUUUUUGH!!!"
PREACH BROTHA
dude paul is one of the honest charather
Paul's damage is bullshit but there are characters more annoying than him, like Jack and Xiaoyu, so those characters were mentioned instead.
cuz everyone is using Paul to refresh themselves when they are sad
2:32 brother can't block da snek
valos507 lol I think he meant B4
But yeah snake edge is fun
Raise the banner of #TauntSnakeEdge
1:24 - She said it the best. Hate gauge characters.
Gauge characters add to the game and should be welcomed with open arms. "Ten years playing Tekken" yeah, you've spent ten years playing the same game, just with different graphics. Traditional fighters should add new gameplay every 5 years, because it's getting boring to watch
your telling me tekken 6 and tekken tag 2 is same
PK Fire No one has to like them
callum macaulay They arent the same, but they feel like they arent different at all. I cant point out exactly why, but Tekken had not changed it's formula since pretty much the beginning. Gauge characters dont break the game, and they should be a welcome addition to the cast. However, introducting this new mechanic through a character from another game isnt how you do it. Akuma sucks because he's a 2d character, and shouldnt be in a 3d fighting game. They just need time to polish the engine
fair enough i got nothing against gauge characters i think their cool im didn't agree you saying tekken been same the whole time no hate through your opinion
noctis: phew😓 nobody hates me.. LMAO😂😂
GenesisGems the thing is he’s so overwhelmingly advanced that you’d need a DOA-like tuturial but the learning curve is like a mountain with him
The TMG Specialist are you joking?
Wise Multishine I’m actually not, he’s easily the most hardest character to use in the entire game beside Akuma
Noctis is so irrelevant , is so simple that people got bored of him so fast , really bad guest choice imo , i hope atleast he helped to hook new players into the game .
The TMG Specialist lmao
>noctis
>hardest character to use in the game
ok brotendo
Surprised Eddie Gordo was never mentioned by anyone
pog champ because he not very scary anymore. since theynerfed b1,4 he is actually alright. once you know the match up then he really has a hard time
Hugenius ah I am relatively new 2 the tekken series he always mixes me up I have a really hard time with him his movement highly confuses me
Eddie isn't very good at a high level
pog champ
Play the matchup more. I think T7 characters have better ways to deal with his RLX stance compared to previous games and that his safe moves aren't that threatening anymore. The only thing you have to deal with now is the high-mid-low mixup which you can ease up by shutting down RLX.
Hugenius yeah it's easy to counter him now. Tekken 3 he was a fucking nightmare. And I'm surprised alot of people hating fireballs like it's the most easiest move to dodge and counter. Like they never played Tekken 5 and 6 and you could apply the same technique to other characters to counter them like jin and kazuya's electric uppercuts.
Knee loves all characters too, cause he plays all
kinda suprised that not a single of them said "Dragunov".
Cos Drag is cool af and sooooooooooooooolid =D
There are characters more annoying than him, and those characters were mentioned instead.
Y'all acting like Drag and menace are lying
Dragunov's iWR2 is not that easy to pull off,
people aren't even mad when someone pull off iWR2 three times in a row.
Even JDCR sometimes botched his iWR2
Dragunov is Solid AF
I can confirm what that one guy said, fighting bears is the worst. It's why I don't go camping anymore.
Eliza is a tekken character.Remember Tekken Revolution? Plus while ppl are complaining projectile characters in tekken 7, apparently ppl have forgotten about the devil versions of jin, kazuya, and jinpachi, as well as alisa, angel, orge, azazel, and many others
@Ijustcametogetsomethingtoeat low tier? I doubt know about that.
Love it. Great vid man - and should you ever feel like using any remixes and such from my channel feel free to Phil.
Rukunetsu Ruku what's sup dawg
I hate all the Characters that I don't play with lol
Honestly ye😂
Good stuff
CALLMEARJ playing askua for the sake of you fam. ☺
You turned ur back on tekken community foh
I knew people would not like fireball implantation in Tekken. Its like putting direct hand to hand combat in a Soul Calibur game, it just doesn't belong. Energy Projectiles belong in games like SF lol
Tell that to kunimitsu also OWO
Tekken Players - Don't shake hands with Street Fighter players, don't look at them in their eyes. If you pass by a SF player, spit in their general direction and make barking noises.
"I like everything character... Tekken"
Saint - 2018
I hope Ganryu comes back, Saint’s Ganryu back in the day was so good and I’d love to see him back destroying people with him again
And Even Still, Tekken 7 is the most balanced fighting game in the FGC. Every character is Viable at a high level.
Yeah that game was being tested for over a year?
Tekken is the best fighting game followed by Virtua Fighter, then Tatsunoko VS Capcom.
Those are the most perfect Fighting games there is.
Gigas season 2 says hi
@@carlatduty6776 Panda making top 8 at Max damage says hi
Elia Pasquinelli Panda winning TWT finals says hi
Lil Majin: "Has a good throw game, wall carries I really hate to fight him."
Me: *Looks at King*
Give us back Ganryu so that Saint won't have to play his lifeless Jack anymore
Id love that
Great editing and a different perspective of tekken/SF videos. It is nice to see them for a "mini" interviewers and get to know our favorite fighters weakness, opinions. Keep doing what you're doing. And good luck!
CEO was great, this video was great.
It cracks me up that a lot of people hate projectile characters haha! It's fair that they hate them for sure, but I tell you now, just as hard as it is going against them, they're also hard to win with. When was the last time you saw one in a grand final? I think Chanel used both Akuma and Eliza and they both got owned by Knee's Bryan. They do high damage but they're also easy to punish too.
IanLEAU You left out Geese. He's pretty safe and shells out unscaled damage from links like the rest of them.
IanLEAU Ever thought that Tekken players don't wanna deal with 2d bullshit?
SDub817 bruh just sidestep/sideroll. Boom, you've avoided the 2d aspect of all of those characters. Now you can play Tekken again
Daemon Glasscock lmao
Daemon Glasscock Shut the fuck up.
I agree with that dude. I hate fireball characters. I love the original tekken because of the close combat martial arts fighting. Altho the later installments have them too they were kept to a minimum but this time its just too much. Still a fun game tho
stoneroses8818 it’s no longer the king of iron FIST. Yoshimitsu is an exception
stoneroses8818 Eliza is an original Tekken character...
Did people forget about Devil and Angel or even Devil Jin? Projectiles have been around for a while.
Seasonal dark nobody talked about eliza and her playstyle is not tekken so who cares if she's original or not?
MagumoKawasaki yh but devil jins laser is no near comparable with things like repu-ken or hadoken..
I HATE Lucky Chloe
Like many mentioned, forme it has to be Akuma, Geese and Eliza. I've never liked Street Fighter, never liked the idea of super bars, chip damage, projectiles etc. I've played Tekken since the very first game on PS1 to get away from all that. And now we have 3 monsters who can do all that shit and deal 70+% off a single move if they have meter.
SohJinh they are very hard to master tho 😅
ranzudezu I disagree. I don't think the characters are hard to master, I think the 2d characters have a different style of execution and movement. Not necessarily harder definitely a lot different than the proper Tekken cast
Bloodgazm NZL #RIPFingers tho 😅😂 I can't wait to play Geese because I'm too broke to buy the S.P yet 😭
ranzudezu Lol I hate the amount of inputs just for an 8 hit combo. It's more tiring than playing Lee lmao
Bloodgazm NZL #BuffLee 😅😭
I don’t think I hate any Tekken characters design wise. But I hate fighting Steve, because he’s so fast and manages to keep himself really tightly guarded (like any good boxer should so kudos on the programmers). I also hate fighting Lily for her fakeouts, evasions, and unorthodox timing. But I’ve been playing Tekken since 3 (I’m 20 now) and in all that time the only character who I’m still actively afraid of if he’s used by a master is Eddy Gordo. Not often you find people who devote time to learning him, but I’ve had all of my mains/favorites laid out by an exceptional Eddy player in the past. It’s horrific I’m traumatized.
The problem I have with them is that only 1 guy gave a legit argument as to why Geese, Akuma and Eliza are hated. Because of their damage.
Saying "is not tekken" is lazy, because you completely forget Noctis at that point.
Noctis doesn't have gauge attacks therefore he plays like a Tekken characters.
Noctis plays by Tekken rules far better than the 2D characters.
1:13 Yo fam. My heart just melted.
That chick seems like a troll, not gonna lie
@@megakazuya123 Ikr no one in the world plays master raven
Who is she, I came to the comment section just to see if anyone knows
@@Zetho @noche_gaby.
Geese imo is the best guest character I've seen in a fighting game. I don't get why those people hate 2D characters. I presume it's because there was always this rivalry between 2D and 3D so they just kinda have to hate them. They aren't that strong tbh. Devil jin, Jack 7, Dragunov, Paul, Kazumi are way stronger when you look at the tiers.
Noctis on the other hand can zone in tekken 7! But no one says his name cause there is no meterbar when you play him, even though he has a sort of fireball. I bet those people wouldn't mind seeing Goku as a guest character throwing kamehamehas and spirit bombs at people.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I find it kinda disappointing hearing "they don't belong in Tekken". As a 2D and 3D fighting game fan I'm happy to have them all together in one game.
Alexein they said why they hate them lol. They said `it's not tekken'. And you seem to be assuming a lot lol. NOBODY would want goku in this game lol
Alexein u prob didnt play tekken that much then
People don't like changes, in general. In 3D fighting games the main focus always was close combat, you never fought on far distance. And suddenly a character appears who can throw projectiles and attack from very far distance. Actually, I'm OK with this, because I wanted to see a 3D fighting game with projectiles, I was waiting this for long, but a lot of people found this annoying.
Rei Ranmaru then u shud play dragonball or naruto lmao
Rei Ranmaru and yeah longtime tekken players find this annoying as hell bc most characters movesets are close combat based, so when u throw in fireballs and shit the only thing that the original tekken cast can do is sidestep, until ur opponent decides to stop firing the fireballs or fucks up their input in which case u can ATTEMPT to run up and punish them if u dont get hit by a invincible shoryuken or some bullshit :)so u just kinda have to trust ur opponent not to be a dick which is usually not the case if theyre using geese and akuma or whatnot they spam fireballs all the time. In conclusion the inclusion of fireballs and 2d characters gives the original tekken community a mild form of cancer.
1:22 ♡♡ YUYU...
CNRgg Tekken looks like a man with make up and a wig
@@AC-LING666 i'd like to hear you speak japanese
It baffles me how no one said "lucky chloe because her character personality is cringe"
I can understand people saying her gameplan is confusing, to an extent. But she takes high risk high reward to the maximum, yet most the time the risk is a bit too much. Which makes her definately not suited for high level play, not only that she's pretty linear once you get to know her. So yeah she struggles hard.
Idol culture is huge in Japan, they're probably numb to it.
I'm very surprised no one said Devil Jin. As a DVJ player, I will have to admit, his hell sweep chip is pretty disgusting and fast when you fall to it. Albeit not safe, you will most likely fall to it most of the time.
Nah, DJ ain't that bad tbh. Very unsafe on a lot of blocks.
He's only bad when ur a Tekken scrub and you don't know what to do against his flying moves and lasers. Your scrub brain just freezes everytime he leaves the ground.
After you've played a while though, he starts getting a bit predictable tbh.
I just hate devil Jin because he’s a waste of a roster spot
Josie is the absolute worst
I can't believe we traded Bruce for someone who cries before and after the match
My least favourite characters are Lili, the bears, and Lucky Chloe. Even as someone who plays Chloe a tad bit, I have to say that her high damage output with combos is undeserved, since the combos are very, very easy to pull off, and come out of almost nowhere with her weird launchers. At least in my opinion.
Saint is absolutely wholesome
I can't be the only one that absolutely hates the Laws. They're so bloody unfair. And freaking Kazuya... Just... No.
they are really annoying but kazuya at least is a tekken character and not just a clone of bruce lee
I got to agree with hating the Bears. I get this uncomfortable anxiety everytime I need to fight a Bear. You don't know what move they'll ruin your day with
I was watching Knee fight two really good Geese players on his stream and I was thinking: Harada actually has created a blueprint for a whole new fighting game with these 2D characters. These are the first characters in history to fully utilise the strenbths of both 2D and 3D fighting. usually these hybrids are 2D fighters with 3D graphics. It's kind of amazing.
Joel Henry t7 is a beta for txsf. We knew it all along.
Actually SNK did it first with KOF Maxium Impact series.
Slade Joseph Wilson not as polished as in T7,i really wish for them to make more original Tekken 2D characters ,that would make the game more fun imo
+Damokles No duh that's why first is the key word and it reflects on the lack of polish. No lie that would be awesome
Can you imagine how they would interpret a King of Fighters boss character? It would be awesome.
Majin spoke the truth. Other dudes hated characters due to unpredictability coz they are too stupid. Or orientations. But an elite gamer like Majin saw past these and kept it professional.
Or Majin’s just chill? Much respect to him for that because this game is tilting as hell
Besides of Akuma and Geese I hate Noctis, Gigas and Bob. Everyone else are either okay in my eyes or are characters that I like. And yes, that includes Lucky Chloe who gets lot of hate from many people for no good reason.
Johannes Mäkilä how can you hate Gigas? The guy's such an easy target?
Is it because you suck as him?
I just hate lucky Chloe because she doesn’t fit the tekken aesthetic, her lore is trash and her combo damage most of the time is deserved
She’s just a cheap bare bones thought of a character that doesn’t belong in a great franchise like tekken
The people in this video who hate 2D Characters because they're "not Tekken" needs to get better at the game then, LMFAO.💀💀💀💀💀
My thoughts!!!
2:02 My man.
If this video was done these days everyone would be saying my main "Kunimitsu"
Who is the girl who said "everyone but raven"?
I was about to ask that, hot!
Chr7s777 ' sitting here waiting for an answer lmao
Gaby. She's from CFL and a cool person. Her Twitter is @gabst9r
CoreTheG thank you!
She plays Raven AND Leo?! My two mains? My dream girl right there
Eat micepoo woah sir. I'll have you know my intentions are pure
Jeondding really out here saying he hates Lucky Chloe when he PLAYS Lucky Chloe.
1:17 he'll be back
The guy crying about Brian, dude that applies to everybody lmaoooooo. This game's damaged profile is insane.
Eddie and lucky Chloe and projectile chars. Also don't like the Bruce replacement who cries. Bring back Bruce!
For me it’s kaz. I play Jin so it’s not like I hate mishima’s but you never forget the first time you get uf4 spammed by kaz in blue ranks. That’s where Tekken boys become Tekken men, very jaded “why do I play a game that pisses me off?” Type of Tekken men.
Plus the entire 50/50 gameplay just becomes “is this kaz gonna hellsweep me or ewgf me because he does literally nothing else.”
Nobody said noctis. Maybe only because he doesn't have meter and extremely high damage. Geese and Akuma all have viable death combos. Eliza is situational sometimes
He also doesn't have a walljump which bones him when cornered.
If you ask them now, the will all say Leroy. (Except the ones who play him)
plenty of self-hating mains out there too!
Hasn't Leroy been nerfed a bunch tho?
@@Kaz999998 Yeah but he's still op.
Think the hate for Jack and Xiaoyu were the most well elaborated cases for sure, especially with Xiaoyu. "It's like you can't play regular Tekken" really does sum up what it feels like to go on the defensive against her, and it's been the case for like three times now. And Lil Majin would know about the headaches of Jack. lol
The hate for the projectile guest characters would be more valid imo if the characters in question were breaking Tekken 7 horrifically at the competitive level or something but as of EVO 2018 that doesn't seem to be the case at all, so the hate seems to be more just that they're "not Tekken characters" which is a bit silly to be because that was kind of the point of the guest characters, but to each their own.
Everything else is just preferential and it's all good, but who the hell hates on Yoshimitsu's weirdness? Get outta here with that. lol
Whos the sweet one with the braids? I'm tryna simp
I think Saint said it best. T7 is pretty balanced overall - some characters have super high risk/high reward scenarios (Akuma, Lucky Chloe)... but once you know what to look out for they are pretty straightforward to deal with (last time anyone made top 8 at a major with Chloe?). Most of the answers about who they hate were simply characters they couldn't figure out or couldn't block mixups :)
I love that jeonding says lucky chole when he plays her XD
Been playing since Tekken 2 and I really dont see what's so wrong with 2d characters on the game. The only things i really see wrong with it is that Akuma can spam his warp thingy and you literally cant do anything against it. But other than that it's not too bad. Keep your range, sidestep and punish. Once I started playing Geese I realized that it's really not that bad. The catch with 2d characters in tekken is that it's hard as hell to win with them. Poor backdashes, poor sidesteps, etc. Notcis on the other hand; a tekken character; can zone just like a 2d character except you can barely sidestep it and its piss easy to win with him. Why is no one hating on noctis?
cause when people play noctis they still play tekken
when you play as akuma you playing streetfighter against tekken characters.
it just feels weird for tekken players to play street fighter.
Dude really said Geese has poor sidestepping and backdashing. Didn't even have to say you play him.
can noctis launch -10?
@@vidalzazueta4678 He does.
His sidestep is horrendously bad. Get better at the game, or just cry more. Your choice, scrub.
That intro song! God I miss Tekken 4
I need to knwo the name of the background song plz its so nostalgic
tekken 4 - kitsch
Wasn't shocked that a whole clump of people said Ling, I'd say her too lol
Jeondding is SO HOT
that Tekken 4 beach theme really set me back to some good times
WHERES JDCR DUDE 😤😤😤
he wasn't around when i shot :/ next time!
They would have said Noctis if it weren't for one thing. Everybody's forgotten him
Nice video!
its cool to hear other ppls opinions bout characters
The Worst Tekken 7 character is DUBSTEP/OST
I knew I would like this video when Kitsch started playing
Josie, xiaoyu, hworoang (however you spell it) i feel like I'm getting smothered when I fight them. Paul cause I always get smacked with deathfists. And also drag because he feels tiresome to fight against.
Also, why are there 2 bears? Lol Could've had Julia
I miss julia, lei, anna, zafina and roger.
hwoarang (how a rong)
The intro is why im scared of getting good enough for tournament
0:09 JeonDDing! 😍❤️
Sorry i gay. Hahahaha
You didn't even need to mention the gay part ...your YT pic already tells us
1:17 Oh how he didnt know until it was too late...
Nobody mentioned by beautiful boy Claudio!? Nice!!!!! Claudio should be protected at all times.
Cloudio is a cool but not so strong character. Once I beat the best cloudo in my scene without even thinking about it
he's ok, he just doesn't have that many options so its hard to be unpredictable at high lvl tbh that's his only flaw other than lows
My main problem with Tekken 7 is that is more of an "half Tekken" game than an full one like the previous tittles, the game lacks several stample characters from the franchise, i hope that in Tekken 8 or Tekken Tag Tournament 3 will feature all the chatacters of the franchise including the new ones.
I don't like Josie. They replaced Bruce Irvin with this clone, that doesn't even do anything new. She has, not only the same attacks, but the same attack animations, with no Josie-ism to speak of. Total BS.
Kinos141 yeah her personality does not really reflect her fighting style.
On the other hand, if they didn’t genderbend Bruce into a sexy Filipino woman, I’d probably wouldn’t have picked female Bruce up
Li1190 good point
Li1190 i like the way you think :)
If you're gonna hate on Josie, you should loathe Gigas. He looks like a really strong character but ends up being a painfully nerfed Marduk clone lmao.
Your great production earned you a subscriber.
Bring lei back
Love this kind of content in the fgc, keep it up!
lars is one of the worst fighting game character designs ever.
JRS why? 😱 everybody say that he sucks but i have never seen someone elaborate why he sucks so much
@@eddi8634 One of the most basic and boring protagonist in the game. He's a mishima wannabe and a ninja wannabe. He lame af imo
〜名無し #bufflarsagain
@@carlatduty6776 Nah he can stay in the trash tier
〜名無し lol
1:11 Who is this young woman with so much wisdom? 😌👌🏾
Saint was the best player they asked this question to and he said he loves all characters... coincidence?
You don’t like a character, learn the matchup.
That being said, certain characters are quite annoying to listen to. Lucky Chloe and Alisa have ear piercing voices that I just can’t fukn stand. But in terms of fighting against them, no big deal.
The black dude who plays king (can’t remember his name right now) that said he hates jack-7 does have a point though. Jackhammer is a ridiculously good move and having multiple safe low hits is kinda dumb.
yeah,Lil Majin mentioned that in his stream ,Jack's f,f+1 is so good and you can't even whiff punish it (because of its stupid animation).
Games'n' Guitar Fuck the match up.
That's bullshit. I'm not going to play as a broken-ass character to beat another cheap broken bastard.
That's the cowards way out.
@@neintimesthegeek1337 welp, he said learn the matchup, not "counter pick the opponent". You can use your favorite character to beat the opponent by learning the matchup
01:22 Sounds like Tomo Ohira circa 1994, lamenting the addition of supers to the Street Fighter II series.
Jin sucks. The best version of Jin is from Tekken 4. Also Devil Jin in Tekken 3.
Paul Woelke I'd say Tekken 3. His Mishima/Kazama style was just a perfect blend of offensive and defensive prowess.
in theory jin could be best character in game since he has everything you need be good and more with the parry
Jin is a very versatile character. Parry is everything!
Jin in t7 has damn near every tool to win
Jin in T7 is the best he's been. Especially with is EWHF launching on normal hit. T4 Jin was broken.
2:11 the return of Bryan Fury the Bob main.
Trend: People that play nothing but Tekken hate the 2D characters, want them removed from the game.
People that actually do play 2D games as well as Tekken enjoy them for what they are, and remember they have 32 Tekken characters (+Noctis) to play and fight against.
I agree. I play and enjoy both so I have no problem with 3d fighters. I started with 2d fighters.
They are worse at adapting
Slade Joseph Wilson No nigga, we play Tekken to get away from the conventions of 2d fighters. Adding that weak ass shit defeats the purpose of gravitating towards Tekken in the first place.
+SDub817 Nah kid. You suck at adapting to 2d fighters. People play 3d fighters because they like them or because they are lenient. It's not to get away from a different variation. Next time put some thought into what you said.
Slade Joseph Wilson Na you bitch ass nigga, I flat out don't enjoy the gameplay of 2d fighters.
That bryan cosplay at 2:11 is dope though.
Most of the people complaining just have no answer for akuma, geese, or eliza. Complaining about a character is not tekken. Going to training mode and figuring out how to stop those characters. NOW THATS TEKKEN!
Most of the people in this video are the best players in the world so sit your ass down
I bet none of them you've beaten yet right? that why u nut hugging so hard?
Block+punish. Learn to low parry, side step, and side roll. Legit just go into practice mode and learn punishes. It's what it's there for. Akuma and Geese aren't even that hard to fight compared to some of the other cast members
"Put Ryu and Ken and we really gon fight in the streets"
Bars? Bars?
my most hated character is eddy he is soo annoying 😤
In ttt2 he was sooooo bs, but know hes kinda meh