I love how the round 2 game 1 was a beautiful long game where it was everyones business up until super late and game 2 your opponent got vintage diggy diggy holed. Love that format so much.
This was an amazing league to watch! Absolutely loving the vintage content. And would love to see a breakdown of any eternal weekend events you play in afterwards! No obligation to live tweet it like last year, I know it's a lot of work.
I love the fact you guys were absolutely roasting people who register goyf as a card in vintage on the podcast and here is our little green friend winning you games 🤣🤷 Priceless!
super interesting to see big daddy goyf beat down harder in the format that is faster on the stack, relative to legacy. more stuff in the yard faster makes him so much better. i wonder if there's room in vintage for his little nephew slag fiend (or with the rise of 8cast in legacy, maybe he's good there?)
I think the fact it just dies to graveyard interaction (e.g. Endurance) makes it almost unplayable in both formats. Goyf at least lives through that kind of stuff.
I remember there was some consideration of Slag Fiend back when it was printed. A lot of cards like that pique people's interest and then quickly die out. Getting to be a real boy in Vintage is a pretty high bar.
In round 3 game one, I think getting volc is actually just straight better than getting island against prison shops. These shops decks are now playing 4x ghost quarter and 4x wasteland. So, us getting basic island just makes the ghost quarters better by getting our only basic, and they are equally likely to have a ghost quarter as a waste.
As a non-Vintage player, would going after their Crucible in G2 worth it because you take them off of Waste Lock? EDIT: I won't remove my comment as because I'm honourable, however, I think your thought process was a lot different than mine. I wasn't thinking of you being able to land, I was thinking that it gets rid of their ability to lock you.
I really like this deck and it was great to see it piloted by such a good player. I wonder if a couple Ragavan could slot in to accelerate our 3 drops and if you think this makes sense.
The point of this deck is that all your cards are always good. Ragavan is insane sometimes and complete garbage other times. It might be worth testing, are there are some creature flex slots, but I’m not sure it’s what we’re looking for.
Now why is w6 not restricted? Wouldnt you being able to recur wasteland/stripmine be a stronger then in legacy? or is since the lands arent at 4x it's not as powerful?
Wow. I don't usually am interested in Vintage because it seems so... Homogenized? And dull. But this deck is amazing and your piloting and narration are on point. Interesting to see the busted af PWs being good but in a context where they are not actually that busted (wOw Fuck oKo). PS: As a non native english speaker, I'm curious about Brian's accent. Those FUUUCKS and JEEEESUS and SHIIIITs always make me giggle.
My dialect and accent are from the American Northeast, I’ve lived in New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. The dramatic fucks and shits are me being goofy for the camera haha.
There are version with DRS, usually BUG and sometimes 4c. There are Izzet Ragavan decks too. Those are all unique archetypes though, you don’t get there by switching cards out of this list. I’d check out mtggoldfish vintage metagame page for examples.
@@BoshNRoll thanks because absolutely loved this list and to pressure them with stuff like shaman and ragavan it makes other matches like dredge actually barrable shaman in particular makes those games actually winnable
I don´t think every dredge player keeps hands in G2 only for Bazaar... Would search for Bazaar and Force Of Vigor, or other interaction with opponents hate pieces. Nice Video btw. Love the Vintage Content
34:00 Why cut Probe and not Preordain? I understand that preordain sees more cards, but under a sphere it's pretty bad while probe remains a passable cantrip. And when sphere isn't there, you're playing a 59 card deck with information about your opp's hand.
Probe replaces itself with a random card. You don’t get any selection or advantage out of it except seeing the opponent’s hand. If you don’t care about their hand, you could just cut probe and draw the good card you board in without having to cast probe to draw it.
If I was a woman, I would birth the children of the round 2 opponent just out of respect for them running goddamn CHROMATIC LANTERN in a Vintage league, game one with the stock 60. Life is full of calculated risks, and fortunately / unfortunately I am fucking awful at math.
15:03 "As long as you don't die, you'll eventually win." Love it.
Feel real bad for that opponent on Dredge game 2. New to Dredge and getting the 0.3% hand.
Well, then you at least got that expierience right away!
Tarmogyf vs that card in their hand was my favorite duel deck series 🤣
I love how the round 2 game 1 was a beautiful long game where it was everyones business up until super late and game 2 your opponent got vintage diggy diggy holed. Love that format so much.
30:20 Oh God I'm SO relieved that you figured out to take the crucible haha. Fuckin gave me heartburn watching you about to take the lantern 🤣🤣
So glad you saw the crucible steal. Can't wait to see how you do this weekend.
This was an amazing league to watch! Absolutely loving the vintage content. And would love to see a breakdown of any eternal weekend events you play in afterwards!
No obligation to live tweet it like last year, I know it's a lot of work.
Vintage hypeeeeeeee
I love the fact you guys were absolutely roasting people who register goyf as a card in vintage on the podcast and here is our little green friend winning you games 🤣🤷
Priceless!
The long con. ;)
@@BoshNRoll sooooooo good
Glad to see another believer in the maindeck hullbreacher. I get a lot of equity out of it in my RUG and Jeskai lists
Thought this was an old video because a red decklist wasn't playing ravagan
30:00 I was screaming at my monitor to take crucible lol, I'm glad you saw the line
Feels rather Jund in playstyle to my reckoning. Big couple weeks for the channel and hyped for the upcoming tourney. Go roll some fools and friends!
Wow, this video may have convinced me to start playing vintage on mtgo! Thanks for the content!
That's the best outcome. Welcome!
Gosh I freaking love your channel!!!! I get all my eternal fixings here 😍😘😘😘
super interesting to see big daddy goyf beat down harder in the format that is faster on the stack, relative to legacy. more stuff in the yard faster makes him so much better. i wonder if there's room in vintage for his little nephew slag fiend (or with the rise of 8cast in legacy, maybe he's good there?)
I think the fact it just dies to graveyard interaction (e.g. Endurance) makes it almost unplayable in both formats. Goyf at least lives through that kind of stuff.
I remember there was some consideration of Slag Fiend back when it was printed. A lot of cards like that pique people's interest and then quickly die out. Getting to be a real boy in Vintage is a pretty high bar.
@@jakechapman4633 Ole Slaggy counts both yards so it could be really good in some metas
This deck rules. I would have gone 1-4.
In round 3 game one, I think getting volc is actually just straight better than getting island against prison shops. These shops decks are now playing 4x ghost quarter and 4x wasteland. So, us getting basic island just makes the ghost quarters better by getting our only basic, and they are equally likely to have a ghost quarter as a waste.
Bosh what a fuckin show. Seriously great display here. I'm only at 37:00 too
Other list run three Wastelands, how come you choose to not to, seems great vs Saga, Dredge and with Wren? Great content 😀
Any consideration to an endurance md/sb split instead of the ravenous traps? Does that let you play force of vigor, too?
There’s still not a whole lot of green cards in the deck. It’s worth exploring though.
As a non-Vintage player, would going after their Crucible in G2 worth it because you take them off of Waste Lock?
EDIT: I won't remove my comment as because I'm honourable, however, I think your thought process was a lot different than mine. I wasn't thinking of you being able to land, I was thinking that it gets rid of their ability to lock you.
Could have countered sphinx with red blast in round 2. You got tunnel vision when you said I will FoW anything they play. Thx for the videos
He only had one mana, and needed to pay for Sphere of Resistance.
he was under sphere of resistance
Vintage is so cool!
Great run! Deck looks fun
I really like this deck and it was great to see it piloted by such a good player. I wonder if a couple Ragavan could slot in to accelerate our 3 drops and if you think this makes sense.
The point of this deck is that all your cards are always good. Ragavan is insane sometimes and complete garbage other times. It might be worth testing, are there are some creature flex slots, but I’m not sure it’s what we’re looking for.
@@BoshNRoll thanks for the answer and for the great content :)
Now why is w6 not restricted? Wouldnt you being able to recur wasteland/stripmine be a stronger then in legacy? or is since the lands arent at 4x it's not as powerful?
Vintage has artifact mana. Wasteland effects are much worse.
36:30 ahh yes, not a problem Brian. Let me use your code to buy this Vintage deck on TCG Player.
You’d certainly be supporting the channel 😂
Wow. I don't usually am interested in Vintage because it seems so... Homogenized? And dull. But this deck is amazing and your piloting and narration are on point. Interesting to see the busted af PWs being good but in a context where they are not actually that busted (wOw Fuck oKo).
PS: As a non native english speaker, I'm curious about Brian's accent. Those FUUUCKS and JEEEESUS and SHIIIITs always make me giggle.
My dialect and accent are from the American Northeast, I’ve lived in New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania. The dramatic fucks and shits are me being goofy for the camera haha.
Question about xerox decks do they run d.r.s. often and also with ragavan in a list like this what would you cut for those cards in the main
There are version with DRS, usually BUG and sometimes 4c. There are Izzet Ragavan decks too. Those are all unique archetypes though, you don’t get there by switching cards out of this list. I’d check out mtggoldfish vintage metagame page for examples.
@@BoshNRoll thanks because absolutely loved this list and to pressure them with stuff like shaman and ragavan it makes other matches like dredge actually barrable shaman in particular makes those games actually winnable
"Get fucked shops" I just love the smack talk you make sometimes!
I don´t think every dredge player keeps hands in G2 only for Bazaar... Would search for Bazaar and Force Of Vigor, or other interaction with opponents hate pieces. Nice Video btw. Love the Vintage Content
Toppdecking goyf into narset right after spewing out removal was a little ubsurd
Love it
With your dig through time at 27:18 you had unbound turns with the time walk combined with the Wren ult after Oko elks the needle.
31:24 Jegantha decks can’t run Ballista for the same reason they can’t run Chalice - XX mana cost
Good catch!
Kind of new to vintage, but is unisons Oko on their crucible of worlds instead of playing wren and six a bad play?
Was thinking the same thing
If you timestamp the spot I can check it out.
@@BoshNRoll at right around 22:42 is the play decision I think they're talking about.
Around 22:40
I can't believe it took you so long to use Dack on Crucible R2 G1. I thought it was the entire point of playing Dack there!
There’s no harm in talking through the options.
What does xerox mean? Don't know much of the vintage terminology
34:00 Why cut Probe and not Preordain? I understand that preordain sees more cards, but under a sphere it's pretty bad while probe remains a passable cantrip. And when sphere isn't there, you're playing a 59 card deck with information about your opp's hand.
I have to imagine that info about the shops players hand means very little
@@mike1313132003 But 0 mana
Probe replaces itself with a random card. You don’t get any selection or advantage out of it except seeing the opponent’s hand. If you don’t care about their hand, you could just cut probe and draw the good card you board in without having to cast probe to draw it.
@@BoshNRoll Understandable, thank you for the reply.
@@BoshNRoll thanks, that's the point that I was trying to make but my brain wouldn't come up with the right words.
teeny mistake at the eng of game 1 round 2, you should have Dacked first and discarded the wasteland to play it from the gy.
If I was a woman, I would birth the children of the round 2 opponent just out of respect for them running goddamn CHROMATIC LANTERN in a Vintage league, game one with the stock 60.
Life is full of calculated risks, and fortunately / unfortunately I am fucking awful at math.
Why is it called xerox? Don't play legacy/vintage much
It was one of the first “net decks” before the net. Everyone copied the list.
@@BoshNRoll interesting