RT, you better get back to cooking cause this ain’t it! At least do Frontiers, and when it comes out, Shadow Generations! I pick Frontier as it’s got the best bosses and soundtrack alongside a really fun way to run around. Literally my favorite Sonic game in recent years because it was so damn satisfying running around and mastering the controls. Also, let us hope shadow generations isn’t as bad as colors. I stg if they take my childhood favorite to the farm upstate, I’m going to riot.
Seeing Shadow rack an MP5 like it's a shotgun always gets me. It doesn't even do anything, there's no moving part here, he's just stroking the handguard.
it's the funniest thing ever specially knowing the only reason it's the way it is is because that's how the model the animation team had to go off of worked. they had a toy gun that was simply that ridiculous and just went with it
Funny story: While that gun didn't exist when Shadow 05 came out, years later a gun almost identical was created IRL. I like to think someone in firearms R&D saw Shadow's gun in the opening cutscene and wanted to make it real.
There’s a VR gun simulation called Hotdogs, horseshoes and hand-grenades that has a variant of the mp5 dubbed the “shadow mp5” with no further information. Has to be pumped via the handguard one round at a time 😂
there is a reason for that, The people who made the animation had a toy gun there in the story boards and embraced the silliness of it I guess and kept the reloading animation like it .. there WAS a pinned comment on it for the animation and a more in depth reason but youtube unpinned it and I cannot find it anymore
I love how the explanation for Shadow following the evil guy is that he seems to know who Shadow is, but then Shadow completely ignores Sonic who *also* knows his name and who he is. Not even a single voice line commenting on it.
YOUU SEE, in the previous game, that blue guy picked a fight with 'im, in a forest, over the most petty and nonsensical reasons: being stubborn and full of surprises (what?), and having a date with eggman too(...WHAT?). so yeah, I'd not be too keen on listening to a stranger dude who claims he knows me, then kicks my booty over a dentist appointment.
I imagine it's a problem with the translation. I figure Black Doom knows details about Shadow's creation that the rest of the characters wouldn't, but that isn't very well conveyed.
@@ehhorve857 But Shadow shouldn't remember the last game. He has literally no memories, he even says "Who am I?" Apparently all he remembers is his name, Maria's name, and vague memory of running with her. He has no reason not to trust Sonic at least as much as the evil dude.
This game actually had THE BEST ''hand your younger sibling the controller'' I've ever seen. If you plugged in a second controller it would control the Sonic gang characters on the mission. Straight up could have my little brother run around as Sonic or Tails as I ran around shooting soldiers with machine guns. I love this game so much.
@ingtapoot yeah, shadow's backstory is ROUGH. he was scientifically made to cure maria's terminal illness, and they became super close. before they could find a cure, she was shot while trying to help him escape the spaceship they were in
Fun fact: As a child, I found the idea of AIDS-patient Maria being gunned down by the government shocking and incongruous with the rest of Sonic the Hedgehog. As a result, I gaslit myself into believing it was an act of mass mind control by Black Doom to turn Shadow against the humans, and that in actuality Maria just succumbed to her AIDS. At 11 years old, I said “yeah, dying of AIDS is more on brand for the loveably Blue Blur.”
Additional fun fact: As a child, I always found them referring to the Black Arms as “disgusting black creatures” off-putting, to say the least, but I didn’t know how to articulate why.
I mean, compared to "the US Army stops an intelligence leak by raiding a medical research center and gunning down a terminally ill child and torturing its lead scientist," anything's more on brand for Sonic. Shadow the Hedgehog is the edgiest game of the Adventure Era aesthetically, but let's not forget this whole era was extremely tone deaf.
You're not wrong, though! At that point an accidental airlock decompression makes more sense. Although it's accurate to real life. Cops be shooting kids out here.
the most offensive thing about Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) is how good the opening is. You watch that opening, you *want* the whole game to be as good as it.
first experience of this game was falling into the floor 5 seconds into the first level falling forever and waiting 20mins as a kid thinking "this is a very long cutscene" 10/10
Spoilers for Paper Mario TTYD: When I was playing for the first time as a kid, the fake ending for Chapter 4 almost got me. As “Mario” and co. left, I was left sitting there, just staring at the shadow Mario clone that Doopliss turned himself into. I waited minutes for something to change, but nothing was happening. I told my parents what had happened, and almost hit reset before deciding to mess with all the buttons. Once I hit “A”, my world was rocked.
As a lifelong Sonic fan and someone who actually kind of likes this game, the idea of Shadow the Hedgehog being Dan’s favorite childhood Sonic game, the only one that’s stood the test of time, and over the course of his play through, it becoming so miserable for him that he takes a break and says there won’t be any highlights, proclaims that he will never play a Sonic game on stream ever again, and him finally reaching the point of questioning how this franchise is still alive is all so hysterical to me on so many levels. To answer how this game got made, it’s basically 3 factors. 1 - Sonic fans (definitely children) had been sending fan mail to Sega for many years asking them to give Sonic a gun. In response to this, Gamma was included as a playable character in Sonic Adventure, a robot using an arm cannon, but this didn’t satisfy these fans. By post-release of Sonic Heroes, Sonic Team decided they could maybe get away with giving Shadow a gun instead. 2 - The only video game that Takashi Iizuka played between working on Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog was Jak II. 3 - 2005 was just the year of edge for video games in general. Every fun platforming mascot was getting their dark, edgy, and gritty cuss-filled series entry around this time, alongside a whole slew of one-off copycat games doing the same. Jak was the game series leading this brief era years ahead of everyone else and established this type of game. Every other one of them, Shadow included, was just another one in a sea of games like it chasing the trend.
Fun fact every single possible path that ends this game has its own edgy-could-be-a-metal core-song-name title to it So there are technically 322 endings to Shadow the Hedgehog all with names like "Funeral Procession in Space" and "The Ultimate Atonement"
Some of them go really hard, such as 'I Know the Will of Heaven.' But then you get the ones that are super comedic, such as 'For Love's Sake,' which is start the game as evil, meet Rouge the Bat, and then complete every other stage as a hero.
Who’s that girl? Do you know her? Is she a friend? Thats kind of cool. Is she alive? Do you know her? Is she alive and you go hang out with her? Did you save her, like, because she’s your friend? That’s awesome dude. I wish I had a friend like you who could save me if I was ever in danger.
"SHAADOW, IT'S ME, THE DEVIL! I'M HERE TO CONVINCE YOU TO DO SIN! COME WITH ME, STEAL CANDY, FROM BABYS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WALLMART." "I would never do such a thing! I'll sin in my own way!" "OK BYE."
i remember when i was like 9 i thought this game was so fucking awesome because shadow would say "damn not here" whenever he died like he said a BAD WORD that's so metal
My favourite story about this game is that at one point the developers were showing off the game to some journalists and excitedly talking about the guns and combat mechanics, and one of the journalists asked them "If Shadow is supposed to be the ultimate life form and a super weapon, why does he need guns?" And that was literally the first time any of the developers had stopped the think about that question for even a moment.
@darkhorse744 totally honest, it's a thing I heard. Definitionally, Hearsay. Am trying to track down the source I got it from and grab a proper source from there, but either way, it's one of those stories that like... seeing the game they made I could totally believe it.
@@holycowitsdave Just sounds untrue to me. Cus the reason Shadow was given a gun was because they didn't think Sonic was the type to use one (iirc (apparently the reason that guns were in the mention was because a fan mentioned it)), whereas Shadow seemed more likely to be the type to use whatever was on hand (the wording might be different but that's about what I remember). I think Iizuka actually talked about this in one of his recent interviews. When asked if Shadow would use Guns in SxSG.
Seeing that image of Shadow the Hedgehog in my notifications caught me off guard. The fact it was RTGame who uploaded this video was what completely shocked me.
The greatest opening in videogame history, it's like if a new Mario game released and Mario is was rebranded to be an action hero like Johnathan Wick or the Equalizer 8:30 THERE'S THE SCENE
It becomes even funnier if you're old enough to remember 90's Sonic. Basically, the OG 90's Sonic was supposed to be the "cooler, sassy, edgier" alternative to The Mario Bros more traditional "slightly quirky everyman" hero (yes, back then, Sonic was seen as an attempt at being "edgy"). And then the early 2000s hit, and some now-grown proto-version of an Emo Kid went "Oh, you want EDGE? I'll show you edge!" and created Shadow. And Shadow's creation directly led to the term "edgelord," more or less killing the idea of "edgy" for good in the popular consciousness, except as an insult.
“Mario will never start shooting hookers” lives rent free in my mind, although there was that one promotion for the GBA that had Mario with a sick tribal tattoo, I actually grew up with the tribal GBA 😅 (it was my dads lol he’s still got all his old ass tribal tattoos) so I remember that image so much, it’s the only time I can think of as a “cool ass Mario”
I never thought I’d prefer the voice for Shadow from the fan-dub over the actual game. Have fun trying to become the president, Shadow. Have fun getting into hell.
Can you believe the game exists because Shadow turned out to be the most popular character in one of the earlier games and the game director wanted to make a game explaining his backstory. Also the franchise was in the toilet so he was told to shake up the formula and save the franchise, which is why there are so many wild ideas in the game, alongside the rating. Instead of correctly getting to the conclusion that the franchise is in the shitter because their games are dogshit, they tought that people wanted a more mature Sonic game and the worst part is that despite everything the game was a huge commercial success. Additional fun facts: the PS2 version, despite being the objectively worst version as it has framerate issues (not even with modern hardware and an emulator can you run the game without stutters) and the camera controles are EVEN WORSE in that version, it's the only one that features local coop. You can get a second player by controlling some of the characters (only the good guys though because they couldn't be arsed to make separate controls for the flying allies that represent the evil factions). Getting the true ending by the way is not that bad. The main issue with the game is that none of the deeper mechanics are explained properly, while they had to put tutorials on every level for the basic stuff because the branching path thing made it so the player can miss the actual tutorial. Once you do get the mechanics, the game is more playable (Diabolon for example has a sub 4 minute time for A rank, which is more than doable) and kinda enjoyable. The worst part is that Diabolon and Black Doom show up 5 times as boss fights (3 Black Doom and 2 Diabolon I think), and the 5 other final bosses are filled with the worst possible Eggman bossfight. Speaking of Eggman, if you go full neutral, you just fight Eggman and take over his robot army with Omega. Yes, the final neutral level has an evil and hero objective, both leading to an Eggman bossfight. Final fun fact, if you go sort of hero route but go one level up at the final level and do that final level with the hero objective, after defeating Black Doom Shadow gets depressed and says that it would have been better if he was never born.
"Shadow was gonna say the f-word." You know apparently when they were doing the voicework for this game, the rating wasn't finalized yet, so Shadow's VA actually did a bunch of takes where Shadow was full on cursing. It might still be on a disc at Sega somewhere.
To show how much Shadow the Hedgehog is a timeless masterpiece, if you’re looking to 100% this game, not only do you have to play the game 10 times to unlock the True Ending, but there’s also a total of 326 Routes you can take, each having their own individual title which can take weeks or months to complete It’s also funny to see RT playing this game, giving up halfway and then being gaslit to play it again. Keanu Reeves is a force to be reckoned with for one of RT's favourite Sonic games
the 326 routes are optional, they're not required for 100% You only need to do 10 story runs, The Last Story, and then all A ranks + Keys Expert mode is optional as a reward for 100%, not required
There is a guy on youtube who has recorded and uploaded every single run on his channel and like 8 years ago did an AMA about it. He pretty much said that no human being should ever do this.
I heard somewhere that the record for speedrunning all of the different routes is somewhere in the ballpark of 180 hours of gameplay, which is pretty nuts for a speed running category that isn't Low%
I just physically cannot watch any shadow the hedgehog’s game videos without quoting the snapcube dialogue. “Shadow, its me, the devil! I’m here to convince you to sin!” Is permanently stuck in my mind
Shadow the hedgehog was actually supposed to be T rated but around the time they were making the game the E 10+ rating was made so they toned some things down to get that rating instead
Fun fact: Shadow The Hedgehog has a song by Powerman 5000. Yes the When World's Collide from Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 Powerman. And in the sing it says "Heaven can't save us, hell is a joke."
Love Powerman 5000, and it was so cathartic to bond with my older brother when I was playing When Worlds Collide out loud and he heard it, and the way his eyes lit up as memories flooded back to him and he remembered it but never knew who sung it, and so I told him and we jammed out for like an hour in the car. Like, 15 years since he heard that song and all of a sudden his younger sibling is playing it and can finally tell him who sung it. All thanks to hearing their music in Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog
I love the amount of snapcube references in the comment section too. Take a shot every time someone mentions they're the devil, two if they inform you they are the one from "da bible"
Apparently they even considered going for an M rating and recorded lines for Shadow like "Sonic, give me that fucking Chaos Emerald!" Shadow's VA says Sega probably has hours of unused dialogue like that in its archives
Jason Griffith's voice acting made Shadow the coolest character in all of the franchise lol. I remember wanting to be like Shadow when I was a kid and thinking he was so awesome. I miss Griffith's voice for Sonic and Shadow so much.
15:34 fun fact! To 100% complete shadow the hedgehog you have to play the entire game 326 times. It takes 181 hours minimum. Looking forward to that 7 part series!
Oh man, I feel that "I thought I'd stream this because I loved this game as a kid, and I am not having fun." Props to you for sticking with it, and hope you can take some time to play something you can actually enjoy soon.
omg Cloé you deserve soo much appreciation for your current pacing with these highlight videos, wtf! i hope youre working in a tempo thats still comfortable for you, thank you for providing us the good stuff so close to the actual livestreams. \o/
I think my favorite obscure reference is that (at least in the french version) Black Doom mentions at some point of the game (I think it's one of the ARK levels) that some alien is the strongest giant of his army, and then it inmediatly dies because it falls into space or something.
15:10 I had looked away, you mentioned deleting the VOD, and just then youtube gives me a silent ad. Legit thought you ended the video like that for a second and busted out laughing.
As someone who has only seen this game or any other sonic game through the lens of the snapcube fandubs (AND WAS LITERALLY REWATCHING THEM RIGHT BEFORE THIS CAME OUT) it was absolutely bizarre seeing the real dialogue for the first time
After watching these streams, I figured the youtube video would get the detective pikachu treatment with the title, and was not surprised to see the so you don't have to
23:40 those air ships are in the level "Air fleet" that takes place at the same time as "The Ark" in that level Tails is there to help protect the President, so yeah, considering the ships were blown up, Tails probably died there. *Now that is edge*
It's really unfortunate that Dan looked up how to fight the last boss, saw the 3 minute Video and still went "yea I just gotta keep doing this for 8 mins, just like in this video" LMAO
1:51 I don't think it's possible to make a scene of a young girl getting shot by heavily armed guards less dramatic than this, even the gunshot sounds like something they got off AudioJungle
Wow this video is so cool it makes me want to bark like a dog! woof, woof woof! Anyway, see ya! This game was hell. The live chat was basically all Snapcube references until we realized the horrors of having to scan each stage for every enemy, or waiting for bird rides to be over. This took 2 streams for a reason. I saw some people begging in live chat to either play any other sonic game, or watch the fandub instead.
As a kid my only exposure to this game was renting it from Blockbuster one night and playing the multiplayer mode at a friends house while being extremely confused as to why Shadow had a gun.
Appreciate the upload despite the psychological damage it caused, nostalgia blindness can hit so hard sometimes with favourites, had the same experience with Conker’s bad fur day.
Ah yes, the game that irreversibly damaged Shadow and fans' perception of him for 2 decades. Man, I really hope the Shadow Generations campaign and the movie might finally put him in a positive light again.
@@thundermarisolshadow is an artificial life form created by gerald robotnik to be immune to disease in order to cure his granddaughter who has the sonic equivalent of aids. he became friends with her until g.u.n. stormed the space station they lived on and killed her. she managed to send him to earth, but at some point gerald altered his memories to get him to take revenge on humanity. he does so, attempting to use the space station's laser on the earth, but changes sides when he remembers maria's wish for him to protect the earth. he "dies" saving the planet from the falling space station. after the fact, sonic describes him as a brave and heroic hedgehog. however the shadow we see in this game has lost his memories, so he only remembers the events of sonic heroes. and that's the simplified version.
@@thundermarisol Adventure 2 is generally regarded Shadow at his most interesting personality-wise. And I agree that as the games went on, he's been flanderised into either an edgelord or just a jerk depending on the story.
@@thundermarisol A weapon of mass extinction who decides he doesn't want to be that because a little girl who got shot told him it was bad. You know Superman's famous "world of cardboard" speech? That's basically Shadow's entire character, with a side helping of trauma and being kind of a moody jerk.
I was here on the stream and the devolution from rt saying this was his favourite sonic game to him just fucking dying inside from the shitty mechanics is hilarious
This is the only Sonic game I'll ever play. This was my favourite of the entire franchise and the only one I enjoyed
Still can't believe Jesse Pinkman never wore a Shadow the Hedgehog t shirt
RT, you better get back to cooking cause this ain’t it! At least do Frontiers, and when it comes out, Shadow Generations!
I pick Frontier as it’s got the best bosses and soundtrack alongside a really fun way to run around. Literally my favorite Sonic game in recent years because it was so damn satisfying running around and mastering the controls.
Also, let us hope shadow generations isn’t as bad as colors. I stg if they take my childhood favorite to the farm upstate, I’m going to riot.
You better play ALL of it bub
I question your sanity RT. (I guess I also question my own considering how much sonic I've played)
How fucked has your head gotta be that shadow is the ONLY sonic game you enjoy? Like what other sonic games have you played?
Seeing Shadow rack an MP5 like it's a shotgun always gets me. It doesn't even do anything, there's no moving part here, he's just stroking the handguard.
it's the funniest thing ever specially knowing the only reason it's the way it is is because that's how the model the animation team had to go off of worked. they had a toy gun that was simply that ridiculous and just went with it
Funny story: While that gun didn't exist when Shadow 05 came out, years later a gun almost identical was created IRL. I like to think someone in firearms R&D saw Shadow's gun in the opening cutscene and wanted to make it real.
im over here stroking my handguard
@Switchell2 funner fact: That’s exactly what happened, because no sane person would ever make a pump action MP5 except if it was for the meme
There’s a VR gun simulation called Hotdogs, horseshoes and hand-grenades that has a variant of the mp5 dubbed the “shadow mp5” with no further information. Has to be pumped via the handguard one round at a time 😂
I’ll never get over how a licensed sonic game opens with Shadow reloading a fucking sub machine gun and pumping it like it’s a shotgun.
It’s not even licensed to another studio, Sonic Team were the ones who developed it.
@@FrostGlader Licenced and official.
there is a reason for that, The people who made the animation had a toy gun there in the story boards and embraced the silliness of it I guess and kept the reloading animation like it .. there WAS a pinned comment on it for the animation and a more in depth reason but youtube unpinned it and I cannot find it anymore
@@SMPandanichaha that's charming
@@FrostGlader
Wait, is this game cannon?
"Hey shadow, it's meee, the devil."
"From da bible."
i knew someone would mention this in the comments
Heeeeeeey, what's uuuuuuuup, it's meeeeeeeeeee
I am here to convince you to commit sin... and I love you.
I WILL NEVER DO SIN
I love how the explanation for Shadow following the evil guy is that he seems to know who Shadow is, but then Shadow completely ignores Sonic who *also* knows his name and who he is. Not even a single voice line commenting on it.
YOUU SEE, in the previous game, that blue guy picked a fight with 'im, in a forest, over the most petty and nonsensical reasons: being stubborn and full of surprises (what?), and having a date with eggman too(...WHAT?).
so yeah, I'd not be too keen on listening to a stranger dude who claims he knows me, then kicks my booty over a dentist appointment.
Well you see, Sonic is also a hedgehog. And all hedgehogs know each other
I imagine it's a problem with the translation. I figure Black Doom knows details about Shadow's creation that the rest of the characters wouldn't, but that isn't very well conveyed.
@@ehhorve857 But Shadow shouldn't remember the last game. He has literally no memories, he even says "Who am I?" Apparently all he remembers is his name, Maria's name, and vague memory of running with her. He has no reason not to trust Sonic at least as much as the evil dude.
I mean that was mainly due to the path he chose himself in the game. He chose to ignore sonic and do all the dark missions so the story reflected that
"It's me! The Devil from The Bible!"
-The Devil from The Bible
I am here to convince you to commit sin
"Who's that?"
"Dr Eggman."
"Oh, like from Sonic?"
Featuring Devil from the Dante May Cry series
(The part where he kills you)
This game actually had THE BEST ''hand your younger sibling the controller'' I've ever seen. If you plugged in a second controller it would control the Sonic gang characters on the mission. Straight up could have my little brother run around as Sonic or Tails as I ran around shooting soldiers with machine guns.
I love this game so much.
Never knew that. Quite interesting.
Wow, I didn't know that either. I'm going to have to play my copy on the PS2 and check that out! 😊💖🦔
Ah yes, the second Sonic game that has eggman pissing on something. Last time it was the moon, this time it’s the white house
Erm... It's not Eggman 🤓
i would like to make an announcment:
@@CrabHead501 Me when he has a name and a Ph.D in Women's Studies, therefore the proper way to address him is Ivo Robotnik, Ph.D.
Oh is that the Sonic game where the devil has a parasocial relationship with twitch streamer/president Shadow?
hey reference!
Imagine this being your first sonic game and one of the first things you see is guards shooting a child
Skimming through comments only one person mentions the child murder in beginning
@@PrimeStriker01 it's because maria's pretty well-known
This is honestly the first Sonic game I've seen gameplay of, my first thought was "Geez!!" 😂
@ingtapoot yeah, shadow's backstory is ROUGH. he was scientifically made to cure maria's terminal illness, and they became super close. before they could find a cure, she was shot while trying to help him escape the spaceship they were in
This was my first Sonic game and I was very disappointed when I realised none of the other games has guns in them
Fun fact:
As a child, I found the idea of AIDS-patient Maria being gunned down by the government shocking and incongruous with the rest of Sonic the Hedgehog. As a result, I gaslit myself into believing it was an act of mass mind control by Black Doom to turn Shadow against the humans, and that in actuality Maria just succumbed to her AIDS.
At 11 years old, I said “yeah, dying of AIDS is more on brand for the loveably Blue Blur.”
Additional fun fact: As a child, I always found them referring to the Black Arms as “disgusting black creatures” off-putting, to say the least, but I didn’t know how to articulate why.
@@Lakeside_Flower "Disgusting black creatures, get out of my sight" is such a hilariously terrible and funny line.
I mean, compared to "the US Army stops an intelligence leak by raiding a medical research center and gunning down a terminally ill child and torturing its lead scientist," anything's more on brand for Sonic.
Shadow the Hedgehog is the edgiest game of the Adventure Era aesthetically, but let's not forget this whole era was extremely tone deaf.
“As a child” and “the idea of AIDS patient Maria” is such a fucking sentence 😂
You're not wrong, though!
At that point an accidental airlock decompression makes more sense.
Although it's accurate to real life. Cops be shooting kids out here.
You know the funny thing about eggman in this game is that he's just fucking with shadow and blatantly lying to his face
Egglight, Eggkeep, Eggboss
That's one of the points of two of the routes
@@Jacobliteratori Just want to say this might be the funniest comment
@@Br1anwastaken Much appreciated lad.
Shadow, it's me the Devil. I'm here to convince you to do sin!
knew someone would reference this
steal candy - from babies - and small businesses !
@@main7168I’ll never do such a thing, I’ll sin in my own way!
@@GameStormerSam Ok, bye. **Explosions**
OKAY WAIT, I’LL SIN, I’LL SIN!
the most offensive thing about Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) is how good the opening is. You watch that opening, you *want* the whole game to be as good as it.
Well they can't show you actual gameplay, that'd be spoiling it! 😜
i wish they'd make a remake of it where the game is as high quality as the opening sequence honestly, it would be kinda cool!
“This is like taking candy from a baby, which is fine by me!” - Shadow
Said in the true hero path
Whenever the game gives him a bad score, all I think of it "Bing bong, hey what's up? You're doin a bad job."
"I KNOW I'm doing a bad job!"
Shadow doesn’t need friends like Sonic because he just needs guns
Do you think Shadow is a 2nd Amendment guy
He already has his too best friends, Heckler and Koch, the guns.
@@ubermaster1 and his drinking buddies smith & wesson
Fitting that Omega, a walking arsenal, is one of his best friends
He doesn't even actually need the guns, he is the weapon
first experience of this game was falling into the floor 5 seconds into the first level falling forever and waiting 20mins as a kid thinking "this is a very long cutscene"
10/10
Did you just, never touch the controller after you fell?
@@masterofdoots5965 As a former kid, kids are a little stupid sometimes
@@incognitoburrito6020
Same here, I was an idiot too, but I would've at least touched the controller
Spoilers for Paper Mario TTYD:
When I was playing for the first time as a kid, the fake ending for Chapter 4 almost got me. As “Mario” and co. left, I was left sitting there, just staring at the shadow Mario clone that Doopliss turned himself into.
I waited minutes for something to change, but nothing was happening. I told my parents what had happened, and almost hit reset before deciding to mess with all the buttons. Once I hit “A”, my world was rocked.
@@incognitoburrito6020as a kid who lost my save data for Pokémon B/W because I didn’t know how to save, I feel you. 😂
"now shadow, aim for the second tower..."
Comment of the millennia
As a lifelong Sonic fan and someone who actually kind of likes this game, the idea of Shadow the Hedgehog being Dan’s favorite childhood Sonic game, the only one that’s stood the test of time, and over the course of his play through, it becoming so miserable for him that he takes a break and says there won’t be any highlights, proclaims that he will never play a Sonic game on stream ever again, and him finally reaching the point of questioning how this franchise is still alive is all so hysterical to me on so many levels.
To answer how this game got made, it’s basically 3 factors.
1 - Sonic fans (definitely children) had been sending fan mail to Sega for many years asking them to give Sonic a gun. In response to this, Gamma was included as a playable character in Sonic Adventure, a robot using an arm cannon, but this didn’t satisfy these fans. By post-release of Sonic Heroes, Sonic Team decided they could maybe get away with giving Shadow a gun instead.
2 - The only video game that Takashi Iizuka played between working on Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog was Jak II.
3 - 2005 was just the year of edge for video games in general. Every fun platforming mascot was getting their dark, edgy, and gritty cuss-filled series entry around this time, alongside a whole slew of one-off copycat games doing the same. Jak was the game series leading this brief era years ahead of everyone else and established this type of game. Every other one of them, Shadow included, was just another one in a sea of games like it chasing the trend.
Bless you RT for playing this and for uploading this video despite your experience with this game.
Fun fact every single possible path that ends this game has its own edgy-could-be-a-metal core-song-name title to it
So there are technically 322 endings to Shadow the Hedgehog all with names like "Funeral Procession in Space" and "The Ultimate Atonement"
W h a t
That's ridiculous
there are 326 actually
The Ultimate Atonement sounds like a euphemism for what happens after you binge eat Taco Bell.
Some of them go really hard, such as 'I Know the Will of Heaven.' But then you get the ones that are super comedic, such as 'For Love's Sake,' which is start the game as evil, meet Rouge the Bat, and then complete every other stage as a hero.
@@TheNazkan I guess they felt that 'I Did it All For The (Bat-)Coochie' wouldn't fly.
"It's like stealing candy from a baby, which is fine by me."
Who’s that girl? Do you know her? Is she a friend? Thats kind of cool. Is she alive? Do you know her? Is she alive and you go hang out with her? Did you save her, like, because she’s your friend? That’s awesome dude. I wish I had a friend like you who could save me if I was ever in danger.
heeeeeyyy im in your flashbacks now turns out you didn't save her
@@phahlastname8321you did a very bad job actually
Man, he is so cool. I look at Shadow I says, "what a cool guy. Probably the coolest character of all time"
"SHAADOW, IT'S ME, THE DEVIL! I'M HERE TO CONVINCE YOU TO DO SIN! COME WITH ME, STEAL CANDY, FROM BABYS AND SMALL BUSINESSES. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WALLMART."
"I would never do such a thing! I'll sin in my own way!"
"OK BYE."
i remember when i was like 9 i thought this game was so fucking awesome because shadow would say "damn not here" whenever he died like he said a BAD WORD that's so metal
"Where's that damn FOURTH chaos emerald?"
My favourite story about this game is that at one point the developers were showing off the game to some journalists and excitedly talking about the guns and combat mechanics, and one of the journalists asked them "If Shadow is supposed to be the ultimate life form and a super weapon, why does he need guns?"
And that was literally the first time any of the developers had stopped the think about that question for even a moment.
he doesn't need the guns, the guns need him
I would very much like a source on this, cus it sounds like hearsay.
That question is still stupid
@darkhorse744 totally honest, it's a thing I heard. Definitionally, Hearsay. Am trying to track down the source I got it from and grab a proper source from there, but either way, it's one of those stories that like... seeing the game they made I could totally believe it.
@@holycowitsdave Just sounds untrue to me.
Cus the reason Shadow was given a gun was because they didn't think Sonic was the type to use one (iirc (apparently the reason that guns were in the mention was because a fan mentioned it)), whereas Shadow seemed more likely to be the type to use whatever was on hand (the wording might be different but that's about what I remember).
I think Iizuka actually talked about this in one of his recent interviews.
When asked if Shadow would use Guns in SxSG.
Seeing that image of Shadow the Hedgehog in my notifications caught me off guard. The fact it was RTGame who uploaded this video was what completely shocked me.
same i thought he'd never play any sonic game ever, let alone THIS one(which is underrated af)
"Once again, youve confused morality with legality, Shadow-"
Snapcube's fandub is pretty much my entire knowledge of this game before this video.
Same
I pity you then because that fandub is awful
@@lukescrew1981 i wish i could understand what you're trying to achieve with this comment
@@generallyunimportant Enlightenment
@@lukescrew1981 i still don't get it but sure ig
As an American, I cant believe how accurate the intro portrays the most normal day in America. It just needed more guns though.
Fun fact shadow the hedgehog was made by the American Sega studio.
The fact that the in-universe White House gets absolutely obliterated is so funny to me for no reason, it’s just so fucking hilarious
@@radicalgremlin6440we can tell
@@radicalgremlin6440 didnt the credits say SEGA Europe?
Oh... oh.. _no-_
The greatest opening in videogame history, it's like if a new Mario game released and Mario is was rebranded to be an action hero like Johnathan Wick or the Equalizer
8:30 THERE'S THE SCENE
But would he shoot hookers 🤔
If Wario or Waluigi was rebranded into an action hero, but Mario and Luigi were the same
@@goatcat2737
Waluigi the Hedgehuman
It becomes even funnier if you're old enough to remember 90's Sonic. Basically, the OG 90's Sonic was supposed to be the "cooler, sassy, edgier" alternative to The Mario Bros more traditional "slightly quirky everyman" hero (yes, back then, Sonic was seen as an attempt at being "edgy").
And then the early 2000s hit, and some now-grown proto-version of an Emo Kid went "Oh, you want EDGE? I'll show you edge!" and created Shadow. And Shadow's creation directly led to the term "edgelord," more or less killing the idea of "edgy" for good in the popular consciousness, except as an insult.
“Mario will never start shooting hookers” lives rent free in my mind, although there was that one promotion for the GBA that had Mario with a sick tribal tattoo, I actually grew up with the tribal GBA 😅 (it was my dads lol he’s still got all his old ass tribal tattoos) so I remember that image so much, it’s the only time I can think of as a “cool ass Mario”
I never thought I’d prefer the voice for Shadow from the fan-dub over the actual game.
Have fun trying to become the president, Shadow. Have fun getting into hell.
This whole game feels like the writers said "Hey, you know what would be really cool" right after snorting cocaine.
"What the fuck is a sonic"
Can you believe the game exists because Shadow turned out to be the most popular character in one of the earlier games and the game director wanted to make a game explaining his backstory. Also the franchise was in the toilet so he was told to shake up the formula and save the franchise, which is why there are so many wild ideas in the game, alongside the rating. Instead of correctly getting to the conclusion that the franchise is in the shitter because their games are dogshit, they tought that people wanted a more mature Sonic game and the worst part is that despite everything the game was a huge commercial success.
Additional fun facts: the PS2 version, despite being the objectively worst version as it has framerate issues (not even with modern hardware and an emulator can you run the game without stutters) and the camera controles are EVEN WORSE in that version, it's the only one that features local coop. You can get a second player by controlling some of the characters (only the good guys though because they couldn't be arsed to make separate controls for the flying allies that represent the evil factions).
Getting the true ending by the way is not that bad. The main issue with the game is that none of the deeper mechanics are explained properly, while they had to put tutorials on every level for the basic stuff because the branching path thing made it so the player can miss the actual tutorial. Once you do get the mechanics, the game is more playable (Diabolon for example has a sub 4 minute time for A rank, which is more than doable) and kinda enjoyable. The worst part is that Diabolon and Black Doom show up 5 times as boss fights (3 Black Doom and 2 Diabolon I think), and the 5 other final bosses are filled with the worst possible Eggman bossfight. Speaking of Eggman, if you go full neutral, you just fight Eggman and take over his robot army with Omega. Yes, the final neutral level has an evil and hero objective, both leading to an Eggman bossfight.
Final fun fact, if you go sort of hero route but go one level up at the final level and do that final level with the hero objective, after defeating Black Doom Shadow gets depressed and says that it would have been better if he was never born.
No it doesn't
"Shadow was gonna say the f-word."
You know apparently when they were doing the voicework for this game, the rating wasn't finalized yet, so Shadow's VA actually did a bunch of takes where Shadow was full on cursing. It might still be on a disc at Sega somewhere.
To show how much Shadow the Hedgehog is a timeless masterpiece, if you’re looking to 100% this game, not only do you have to play the game 10 times to unlock the True Ending, but there’s also a total of 326 Routes you can take, each having their own individual title which can take weeks or months to complete
It’s also funny to see RT playing this game, giving up halfway and then being gaslit to play it again. Keanu Reeves is a force to be reckoned with for one of RT's favourite Sonic games
the 326 routes are optional, they're not required for 100%
You only need to do 10 story runs, The Last Story, and then all A ranks + Keys
Expert mode is optional as a reward for 100%, not required
There is a guy on youtube who has recorded and uploaded every single run on his channel and like 8 years ago did an AMA about it. He pretty much said that no human being should ever do this.
I'm doing it right now
You don't need to do all 326 routes to 100%, and as someone who has, in fact, done that: *Don't.* It simply isn't worth it.
I heard somewhere that the record for speedrunning all of the different routes is somewhere in the ballpark of 180 hours of gameplay, which is pretty nuts for a speed running category that isn't Low%
Man, the universe even tried to give you an out by crashing the second you tried going back. You were free, Dan. YOU WERE FREE!
I love how the chat is constantly making Snapcube dub references that are flying right over RT's head.
Dan has seen them. I've seen him comment on one of them.
Shadow the Hedgehog doesn't give a crap about your delicate sensibilities. Whether you like it or not he WILL snort your pee.
Every day is the same... wake up... look at the fire in the sky festival.... think about... Her...
Truly the greatest game of our generation
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Heh, generation, I see what you did there.
yes, but unironically
@@cat_from_heavenBait used to be believable.
@@zelgiusthebrave1401 actually not and i'm realld glad RT likes this game
The fact you CAME BACK to this game after getting so pissed off with it the day before 😂😂
I just physically cannot watch any shadow the hedgehog’s game videos without quoting the snapcube dialogue. “Shadow, its me, the devil! I’m here to convince you to sin!” Is permanently stuck in my mind
Did you know they used to call him Edge King Back in College?
...wait, that doesn't Sound right
"Sound" being capitalized makes me concerned.
@@ComXDude Not my fault that my autocorrection interprets everything i write as German, OK?
@@joshuasiebenhofer2452 Did they use to call you the Sounding king back in college?
@@joshuasiebenhofer2452 Well, edging and sounding do go hand in hand...
They used to call him the Goon King back in college
Shadow the hedgehog was actually supposed to be T rated but around the time they were making the game the E 10+ rating was made so they toned some things down to get that rating instead
Fun fact: Shadow The Hedgehog has a song by Powerman 5000. Yes the When World's Collide from Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 Powerman. And in the sing it says "Heaven can't save us, hell is a joke."
Love Powerman 5000, and it was so cathartic to bond with my older brother when I was playing When Worlds Collide out loud and he heard it, and the way his eyes lit up as memories flooded back to him and he remembered it but never knew who sung it, and so I told him and we jammed out for like an hour in the car. Like, 15 years since he heard that song and all of a sudden his younger sibling is playing it and can finally tell him who sung it. All thanks to hearing their music in Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 and Shadow the Hedgehog
I WILL replay this game and there's nothing you can do to stop me from getting that DAMN FOURTH CHAOS EMERALD
I love the amount of snapcube references in the comment section too. Take a shot every time someone mentions they're the devil, two if they inform you they are the one from "da bible"
22:21 this is actually somewhat true. The game was originally going to be rated T for teen until the ESRB introduced the E10+ rating
Apparently they even considered going for an M rating and recorded lines for Shadow like "Sonic, give me that fucking Chaos Emerald!" Shadow's VA says Sega probably has hours of unused dialogue like that in its archives
"so you never have to"
Hey, those 326 different paths are an achievement I need to obtain. Somebody's gotta do them for the big sequel.
Jason Griffith's voice acting made Shadow the coolest character in all of the franchise lol. I remember wanting to be like Shadow when I was a kid and thinking he was so awesome. I miss Griffith's voice for Sonic and Shadow so much.
Glad someone else liked Shadow's voice. I remember a lot of people not liking it.
@greenapple9477 He was the best Shadow voice
15:34 fun fact! To 100% complete shadow the hedgehog you have to play the entire game 326 times. It takes 181 hours minimum.
Looking forward to that 7 part series!
"My friends are my power."
"Wrong. Pump action MP5."
"I AM AT ALDI" - Shadow, probably
Oh man, I feel that "I thought I'd stream this because I loved this game as a kid, and I am not having fun." Props to you for sticking with it, and hope you can take some time to play something you can actually enjoy soon.
My favorite part of this game is the multiple endings where Shadow straight up murders Eggman
omg Cloé you deserve soo much appreciation for your current pacing with these highlight videos, wtf! i hope youre working in a tempo thats still comfortable for you, thank you for providing us the good stuff so close to the actual livestreams. \o/
I think my favorite obscure reference is that (at least in the french version) Black Doom mentions at some point of the game (I think it's one of the ARK levels) that some alien is the strongest giant of his army, and then it inmediatly dies because it falls into space or something.
Local streamer accidentally ruins his own childhood
15:10 I had looked away, you mentioned deleting the VOD, and just then youtube gives me a silent ad. Legit thought you ended the video like that for a second and busted out laughing.
As someone who has only seen this game or any other sonic game through the lens of the snapcube fandubs (AND WAS LITERALLY REWATCHING THEM RIGHT BEFORE THIS CAME OUT) it was absolutely bizarre seeing the real dialogue for the first time
hearing black doom not have a new yorker accent feels weird
god, SAME.
@@mr.deltza YEAH
Rumble Tumble games, you don't understand, I WANT to replay this masterpiece
After watching these streams, I figured the youtube video would get the detective pikachu treatment with the title, and was not surprised to see the so you don't have to
Still better than Detective Pikachu
All I can think of is the Snapcube dub oh my god
23:40 those air ships are in the level "Air fleet" that takes place at the same time as "The Ark" in that level Tails is there to help protect the President, so yeah, considering the ships were blown up, Tails probably died there.
*Now that is edge*
Local angry Irish drift king searches for that DAMN fourth Chaos Emerald for 30 minutes
I think you mean "that damn FOURTH Chaos Emerald" :P
I still love that not only does shadow pump an automatic smg, but he also twists in the mag and taps it instead of just inserting it.
0:14 - Shadow pumps an MP5 Machine Gun like it's a shotgun.
It's really unfortunate that Dan looked up how to fight the last boss, saw the 3 minute Video and still went "yea I just gotta keep doing this for 8 mins, just like in this video" LMAO
“It’s me the DEVIL! I’m here to convince you to do sin! Steal candy from babies and small businesses! And I’m not talking about Walmart!”
Fun fact! This game actually helped create the E10 and up rating for the ESBR rating system.
You know it’s serious when Shadow says things like “damn” and “piss”
Dan's sin point total is off the scale here
Didn’t think I’d see Rt of all people celebrating The Year of Shadow.
"Steal candy from baby's ,and small businesses"
1:51 I don't think it's possible to make a scene of a young girl getting shot by heavily armed guards less dramatic than this, even the gunshot sounds like something they got off AudioJungle
Wow this video is so cool it makes me want to bark like a dog! woof, woof woof! Anyway, see ya!
This game was hell. The live chat was basically all Snapcube references until we realized the horrors of having to scan each stage for every enemy, or waiting for bird rides to be over. This took 2 streams for a reason. I saw some people begging in live chat to either play any other sonic game, or watch the fandub instead.
A good old case of "Never meet your (sonic) heroes"
returns to his favorite sonic game, hates it.
As a kid my only exposure to this game was renting it from Blockbuster one night and playing the multiplayer mode at a friends house while being extremely confused as to why Shadow had a gun.
Appreciate the upload despite the psychological damage it caused, nostalgia blindness can hit so hard sometimes with favourites, had the same experience with Conker’s bad fur day.
"I miss my wife, Tails. I miss her a lot."
wrong one, buddy.
Ah yes, the game that irreversibly damaged Shadow and fans' perception of him for 2 decades. Man, I really hope the Shadow Generations campaign and the movie might finally put him in a positive light again.
I still don't get what his character is supposed to be...
...maaaybe that's the problem-
@@thundermarisolshadow is an artificial life form created by gerald robotnik to be immune to disease in order to cure his granddaughter who has the sonic equivalent of aids. he became friends with her until g.u.n. stormed the space station they lived on and killed her. she managed to send him to earth, but at some point gerald altered his memories to get him to take revenge on humanity. he does so, attempting to use the space station's laser on the earth, but changes sides when he remembers maria's wish for him to protect the earth. he "dies" saving the planet from the falling space station. after the fact, sonic describes him as a brave and heroic hedgehog. however the shadow we see in this game has lost his memories, so he only remembers the events of sonic heroes.
and that's the simplified version.
@@thundermarisol Adventure 2 is generally regarded Shadow at his most interesting personality-wise.
And I agree that as the games went on, he's been flanderised into either an edgelord or just a jerk depending on the story.
He's my "spicy" hedgehog son with great music and that's all that matters.
@@thundermarisol A weapon of mass extinction who decides he doesn't want to be that because a little girl who got shot told him it was bad. You know Superman's famous "world of cardboard" speech? That's basically Shadow's entire character, with a side helping of trauma and being kind of a moody jerk.
Where’s that DAMN RTGame Video?
… oh! There it is-
Damn! Not here..
To be fair, literally every sonic OST goes hard, no exception
Don’t listen to the sonic chronicles ost, it breaks that rule
Other than that one the whole franchise has amazing music
@@ultramatum0 Sonic Eraser
HEY ALL HEY ALL HEY ALL
@@OrangeDied One of the top 3 greatest Sonic spin-offs to date.
HEY SHADOW, IT'S ME..... THE DEVIL
If ever another sonic game was to feature on this channel I feel like it should be the murder mystery "who killed sonic the hedgehog?"
What a coincidence that SEGA just released a history documentary on Shadow today 😂
So this is what the story is about. I only the fandub version
I've only ever seen the fan-dub of this game before, glad to know there's a game with it too
I love the irony in "These humans don't value life, they'll pay with their lives"
I was here on the stream and the devolution from rt saying this was his favourite sonic game to him just fucking dying inside from the shitty mechanics is hilarious
When Shadow said - "Damn, not here"
I felt that
"It's me the devil, from the bible, I'm here to convince you to commit sin"
"Where's the DAMN fifth bomb?"
"Remember this is my favourite"
You sure that's not just because you haven't played it for 19 years Dan?
"Shadow, It's me! The devil!"
This is in preparation of the upcoming Sonic movie who Keanu Reeves is voicing as Shadow.
*insert obligatory snapcube fandub reference*
i cannot tell you how confused i was when dumai didnt sound like a brooklyn version of the devil
“I am… all of me” is an incredible song. Such a great intro to the game