Great seeing Habs Stanley Cup winners telling it like it is! I am so fed up with Habs reporters mimicking management that the team will be in the "mix". Perhaps they meant in the "mix" for another top 5 draft pick? Knuckles forever and Go Habs Go!!
MSL may be a lot of things including a great hockey player, but he is not is an NHL coach. Benching Arber Xhekaj while playing other D men who make more mistakes and don’t have anywhere near his talent makes fans wonder whether MSL is an insecure coach who dislikes Xhekaj’s popularity with fans the same way MT and MB had a thing against PK. It may be time for the ‘Sheriff’ to get out of ‘Dodge’ for his own career development rather than have this huge talent squandered by an organization that still has no idea about how to develop young players.
Anderson and Pezzetta both went to Trouba and Trouba ran behind the ref. He better hope Xhekaj is not in the next game in November, or else he or someone else will be getting their vicious hit. Trouba hit with intent to injure. It was clean, but as knuckles said, it was completely unnecessary.
Couldn’t agree more lads …. Sure seems like someone in charge has a problem with tough hockey he must not have needed tough guys for his career . Oh wait he was 5’8 and absolutely needed big guys for his career !!!!! Throw the ego out the door and bring in men quit shitting on arber
Big fan of Scotty Bowman; unfortunately, his son, Stanley Bowman was not part of the Canadiens organization and legacy but perhaps it is still possible...
Knuckles it would be great if they would let you give them a rude awakening behind the bench your absolutely correct for calling it out. I like Marty but he may not have that ability to ability to do that.I understand they are professional
It's over a year that I've been screaming at the top of my lungs: ROBIDAS AND LETOWSKI ARE INCOMPETENT. And if MSL can't see something that obvious...then what does that say about his quality as a coach? Doesn't matter who we draft and who we trade for if we don't have a coaching staff to guide and help players improve.
@@DaveJBLbecause the blue liners need a French speaking coach. The Canadiens better move into the 21 century and hire the best or they will never win a cup.
Maybe they're replacing veterans on the blue line with rookies too quickly. There's no harm in leaving players down in the AHL for an extra year. Good teams are often forced to keep young, talented players in the minors.
Giving "Marty" any credit for anything at this point is plain silly. May work great for your next headline or hot quote. As for analysis, it sucks. Good players seldom make good coaches. Larry Robinson for a consultant. Carboneau/ Lemaire face-offs.
Xhekaj is the easy guy to bench. He's got a new contract and they want to keep him. - 3 lines are not scoring and are not getting possession. no forechecking or aggressive play. - The defence play is not able to do the job without the forward working.
Since MSL is there there as been no defense, that's the problem no1, if a night the goalie gives you a chance to win then you have a small chance but we do not have Carey to give us a chance every night.
When your dumb coach puts 3 figure skaters like Matheson, Hutson, and Barron in the same line up, should we be surprised about defensive issues ? What a joke.....
The rebuild should be over at this point! We have enough young guys in the system and enough young guys on the team already! Now it’s time to start filling out the roster with veterans and role players. Create a checking line. Get your goaltending in check. Create a system. Everything needs to change!
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The rebuild needs two more years. The plan is a team to contending for the cup every year. We are far from that now.
Two more years of what? Drafting high? So they can draft 2 more possible nhl regulars? In 2 more yrs of losing will they fire the coach, build a team, create a system, get a goalie, get bigger, get a checking line, get a shutdown line, have 2 consistent scoring lines? All with enough experience to be “in the mix”. Plus not have a losing culture. It doesn’t work! Fill out the team players and coaches, and start building an identity and a proper team. This is the NHL not jr hockey, they are getting murdered physically and on the scoreboard. It’s not good!
The first big mistake of the administration was the "in the mix" message to the fans.They we're never going to be in the mix. Kirby was never coming back full strength (and Laine will not either). Lane Hutson is wonder-boy but overall he won't be a net positive this early in his career (like Quinn Hughes before him -24)
U don't have to make the same comments 3 to 4 days in a row on several different Media platforms. The habs should bring an assistant in to help out. Don't go making moves that will cost us down the road. Thanks Kevin from Halifax NS
Habs should hire a center only specialist to work with Dach and other centers. An old vet who can teach tricks of the trade like cheating on faceoffs etc and teach positioning where to be what to look out for etc etc to Dach and the centers.
When the D is collectively -23 after a short number of games, you have to know there is a major problem!!! Kirby Dach is -10! I think St Louis must shoulder some of the blame!!!
That’s insane. If there’s absolutely anything you enjoy about watching this team the way it is, you’re nuts! Everything needs to change. Like bizarro world in Seinfeld, just do the opposite of everything they’re doing.
Dach can be a very good player, but it's his health that is stopping him, he hasn't developed properly, that's why I'm cutting him some slack right now, he missed a whole year.
The Canadiens need a "Superman" goalie like Ken Dryden, Patrick Roy, or Carry Price. Maybe Ken Dryden or Carry Price can assist in coaching the goalies
The D is soft. Gulhe is going to be a good one, but he is not a bull. Xhekaj has good numbers even though he has made some mistakes, but he is a bull. Struble should be harder to play against, he plays soft. We have offensive D men but we need the hard hitters who make the other team think about running around in our end. The Rangers owned our end of the ice.
The core of this team is Guhle, Suzuki, Slafkovsky, Caufield. They were missing two of them. The habs are already a bottom 5 team with the core 4 in the lineup. With two of them missing, it quickly becomes a trainwreck. Savard and Gallagher can't keep up anymore. Don't expect those vets to tell the kids to try harder.
@@nancetardiff339 Settle down there sparky. No need to bring the leafs into this. And when Demidov arrives we'll be talking about 5 core players anyway. Maybe 6 if Hutson can stop being a defensive liability.
Rangers land a big free agent, why can't Habs? The dirty little secret is that no one wants to play in Canada, where you have taxes to pay and are recognized on the street, and certainly not in Montreal, with a hockey history no one can live up to and fans who have to be at least 40 to even remember what it's like to celebrate a Cup. Add in the fact that the NHL is an American professional league with a few legacy Canadian franchises and that couldn't give a rat's glute for Canada, the fact that hockey is now a niche sport for the well-off, like tennis, and it's hard to work any enthusiasm any more for the NHL. Good luck to the Habs, but the panelists point to the problem: a lack of urgency on the ice. It doesn't matter if you win or lose: you're making millions.
They are not in the fight. They're soft, and slow, and not engaged. Easy to play against. Pezz, Xhekaj, Anderson need to step up and drag this team into a real battle. Hit everything... HARD! and let the refs sort it out. They need a wake-up call. MSL seems to want them to be 'smart' and not hard. F that!
Youngsters getting worked over and injured, points out the lack of serious development & hitting training, and video scouting to address who is on the ice. Hab's are small and their collective, defensive details are lacking. Secondary coaches need to be replaced! Fundamentals are lacking, example: not skating through the whistle, trying to hot dog the F1 when you are the last D back...these are IQ-talent issues. All the skill hype is useless, when your young guys don't have the needed IQ. They really miss Kovacevic who was a plus minus leader and was a smart person, he knows how to simplify the game. Matheson is a hero, being injured but still trying to get after the much bigger Trouba. MSL needs to have Arber and Prez in the game, that is on him. He needs plans not 'concepts'. By the way "concepts" mirrors Trumps language, no 'plans' just 'concepts'.
They have been taking wayyyyy too many stupid penalties. You can't expect to win when you are playing shorthanded for 30% of the game. They actually didn't play terribly against the Rangers in regard to offense, but defensively they made too many mistakes.
No worries, whiners and complaints will always be made in the Hen House . Still a rebuild team , what year are we in ? Plenty of time for improving things in the Roost . Look at how Edmonton did to start the year, last season . And they we not rebuilding. Anyhow GO HABS GO 🎉🎉🎉🎉!!!!
MSL is a good coach and will become a better one as time goes on. The core players are there but the defense needs to improve…so bring in a quality assistant coach for defense and stir in a couple of feisty tough players and all will be ok. I am less concerned about the loss but the play is trending backwards. Suzuki did bring some light to a dark day.
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Great podcast guys as usual, Respect. ❤
Love you guys, good hockey minds not afraid to tell it like it is
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Exactly 💯 And it's disgusting. If MSL feels the need to bench Xhekaj (yet again this season), then he might as well bench 90% of the team.
Xhekaj and Pez
Love this show. Tells it like it is!
Great show guys 💯
Xhekaj should be a regular.
I agree. Try telling that to their coach.
100% agree !
Need some gritt and toughness… bring his kid bro up also to play 4rth or 3rd line to get some passion back in the lineup .
@@pmonty420 That would be so awesome.
Montreal Canadiens needs to replace the coach ASAP
Great seeing Habs Stanley Cup winners telling it like it is! I am so fed up with Habs reporters mimicking management that the team will be in the "mix". Perhaps they meant in the "mix" for another top 5 draft pick? Knuckles forever and Go Habs Go!!
@@charles6180 Knuckles is a legend in his own right . Sticking up for Xhekaj ! Love it !
@@pmonty420Me,too!
MSL may be a lot of things including a great hockey player, but he is not is an NHL coach. Benching Arber Xhekaj while playing other D men who make more mistakes and don’t have anywhere near his talent makes fans wonder whether MSL is an insecure coach who dislikes Xhekaj’s popularity with fans the same way MT and MB had a thing against PK. It may be time for the ‘Sheriff’ to get out of ‘Dodge’ for his own career development rather than have this huge talent squandered by an organization that still has no idea about how to develop young players.
Xhekaj has no talent. Fans just want a goon.
He looks lost out there most of the time. Arbor is a fan favorite because he runs around punching opponents lights out, not because of his " talent".
Everything you just said is, IMO, 100% true. Watched the same thing last season. He's jealous.
@@darrellhickey1990😂
@@kjnodwell😂
Anderson and Pezzetta both went to Trouba and Trouba ran behind the ref. He better hope Xhekaj is not in the next game in November, or else he or someone else will be getting their vicious hit. Trouba hit with intent to injure. It was clean, but as knuckles said, it was completely unnecessary.
trouba would smoke xexe down, like if xexe was a lil' kid
I watch the games to see the action kid Lane Hutson, he'll make mistakes and he admitted it. Give him time, he' ll be great
Please hire a defensive specialist coach. If MSL is coaching defense, then nobody is listening. He has lost the room. Great show
Habs need to get on the other side of hits like Trouba's. Like Nuckles says "more men".
Absolutely right Chris, forwards have to back check like hell play as a unit,DMEN are young,then results will happen.simple.
Couldn’t agree more lads …. Sure seems like someone in charge has a problem with tough hockey he must not have needed tough guys for his career . Oh wait he was 5’8 and absolutely needed big guys for his career !!!!! Throw the ego out the door and bring in men quit shitting on arber
YEEEAAAS!
Two big problems: 1) Way too many dumb penalties. 2) A constant barrage of injuries.
Let Marty handle the Pre and Post Game interviews, then Let Scotty Bowman coach them from his Living Room on Zoom.
bowman coul'dn't make these plugs do any better, you have a legit 2nd line, you have some decent young players and a bunch of plugs
Big fan of Scotty Bowman; unfortunately, his son, Stanley Bowman was not part of the Canadiens organization and legacy but perhaps it is still possible...
THEY NEED A SYSTEM -------FAST!!!
100% not sure what they are doing out there, and it doesn't look like they know either.
Knuckles it would be great if they would let you give them a rude awakening behind the bench your absolutely correct for calling it out. I like Marty but he may not have that ability to ability to do that.I understand they are professional
Marty needs to transition to 1 defensive forward on each line to take care of both sides of the ice while trying to build a consistent offence
It's over a year that I've been screaming at the top of my lungs: ROBIDAS AND LETOWSKI ARE INCOMPETENT. And if MSL can't see something that obvious...then what does that say about his quality as a coach? Doesn't matter who we draft and who we trade for if we don't have a coaching staff to guide and help players improve.
The Canadiens need a Chris Chelios as a defense coach.
Robidas speaks french.
@@DaveJBLbecause the blue liners need a French speaking coach. The Canadiens better move into the 21 century and hire the best or they will never win a cup.
@@Sparkyoleano agree.
Maybe they're replacing veterans on the blue line with rookies too quickly. There's no harm in leaving players down in the AHL for an extra year. Good teams are often forced to keep young, talented players in the minors.
Giving "Marty" any credit for anything at this point is plain silly. May work great for your next headline or hot quote. As for analysis, it sucks. Good players seldom make good coaches. Larry Robinson for a consultant. Carboneau/ Lemaire face-offs.
The same french,isn't that the most important thing.
Nothing was done during the summer to improve the team defensively in the short term, so slow start is not surprising.
............so..does this mean that Marty is no longer a "genius" ?....does this mean it's time or the next "genius".?..........
defensive structure isn't his expertise, and he needs to bring someone in that can do it
Xhekaj is the easy guy to bench. He's got a new contract and they want to keep him.
- 3 lines are not scoring and are not getting possession. no forechecking or aggressive play.
- The defence play is not able to do the job without the forward working.
Since MSL is there there as been no defense, that's the problem no1, if a night the goalie gives you a chance to win then you have a small chance but we do not have Carey to give us a chance every night.
@oldrockgeeser9426 It's a bad roster.
I like Marty and I think he needs to let someone assist him with more experience
The MIX is over for sure
When your dumb coach puts 3 figure skaters like Matheson, Hutson, and Barron in the same line up, should we be surprised about defensive issues ? What a joke.....
@@jjevans1693 Haha. Love it. 😂
The rebuild should be over at this point! We have enough young guys in the system and enough young guys on the team already! Now it’s time to start filling out the roster with veterans and role players. Create a checking line. Get your goaltending in check. Create a system. Everything needs to change!
The rebuild needs two more years. The plan is a team to contending for the cup every year. We are far from that now.
Two more years of what? Drafting high? So they can draft 2 more possible nhl regulars? In 2 more yrs of losing will they fire the coach, build a team, create a system, get a goalie, get bigger, get a checking line, get a shutdown line, have 2 consistent scoring lines? All with enough experience to be “in the mix”. Plus not have a losing culture.
It doesn’t work!
Fill out the team players and coaches, and start building an identity and a proper team. This is the NHL not jr hockey, they are getting murdered physically and on the scoreboard. It’s not good!
Two more years?. This is the fourth season. 3 years. In a couple of months we will be into year 4. Hello?.
The first big mistake of the administration was the "in the mix" message to the fans.They we're never going to be in the mix. Kirby was never coming back full strength (and Laine will not either). Lane Hutson is wonder-boy but overall he won't be a net positive this early in his career (like Quinn Hughes before him -24)
Need a defense minded coach behind the bench
It's NOT Even Ten Games In, but they looked flat last 5 games
U don't have to make the same comments 3 to 4 days in a row on several different Media platforms. The habs should bring an assistant in to help out. Don't go making moves that will cost us down the road. Thanks Kevin from Halifax NS
They're in the mix for the James Hagens lottery.
In the mix for another good draft pick!
Habs should hire a center only specialist to work with Dach and other centers. An old vet who can teach tricks of the trade like cheating on faceoffs etc and teach positioning where to be what to look out for etc etc to Dach and the centers.
When the D is collectively -23 after a short number of games, you have to know there is a major problem!!! Kirby Dach is -10! I think St Louis must shoulder some of the blame!!!
Dach has been out almost a year and a half so would need another dozen or so games to bring him up to speed
anyone who looked at the lineup new they weren;t close to a p0layoff team, they were bottom 5 last year and added hutson.
Everybody need to chill the eckout!!! To early in the season, it does NOT matter, there are a lot more hockey ahead!!!
That’s insane. If there’s absolutely anything you enjoy about watching this team the way it is, you’re nuts! Everything needs to change. Like bizarro world in Seinfeld, just do the opposite of everything they’re doing.
I weonder if the players understands Martin St-Louis 's concepts,
@pierrelalonde3705 I'd have to take a wild guess and say 'nope'.
I'll never get over them not drafting Michkov. Said it at the time and have been saying it ever since. What a missed opportuinty.
i think mitchkov and renbacher have the same amount of goals this year
@@chrishansen8477 Thanks honey
Chicago played us like a cheap fiddle with a first round pick for Dach.
Dach can be a very good player, but it's his health that is stopping him, he hasn't developed properly, that's why I'm cutting him some slack right now, he missed a whole year.
Remember he's coming back from a torn mcl and acl. This takes longer to fully come back from.
Knowing they're not going to make the playoffs before Halloween is pretty sad. It will make for a long and boring season.
St Louis is the problem.
yea, has nothing to do with hardly and talent,
No way, we are very lucky to have him. Every Chill the eck out the season is young and there are a lot more hockey ahead!!!!
Too many young players in the team. They make errors like rookie did.
@@RobertBlanchet0 too many crappy vets is the problem
Exactly. MSL is a peewee coach..
Pour répondre à votre titre : Hos... que non.
If they want to make a living playing hockey, you better take care of the thinking part. Skate, pass, and shout is all fine.
The Canadiens need a "Superman" goalie like Ken Dryden, Patrick Roy, or Carry Price. Maybe Ken Dryden or Carry Price can assist in coaching the goalies
Bring up dobes??
MSL Needs to show improvement with the team they have, Just show a little guts and improvement. The coach needs to be pissed off and get angry a bit.
There is only 75 games left.....no way the Habs can turn it around!!!
I am happy with the offense and PP. But they need to improve defense, too many bad plenties and need some grit.
yup, you offensive play is the top, in 7 games 18 goals :D
your PP is the same way, either 6 goals in 26 power plays
lolmao
The D is soft. Gulhe is going to be a good one, but he is not a bull. Xhekaj has good numbers even though he has made some mistakes, but he is a bull. Struble should be harder to play against, he plays soft. We have offensive D men but we need the hard hitters who make the other team think about running around in our end. The Rangers owned our end of the ice.
The team has not improved under St.Louis. This is his 4th season! Enough already
The team has actually escalated under St-Louis. Remember, the last coach we had brought us to the finals.
@@leezwatz3339Do you mean de-escalated under MSL?
@@She_26 YES. And, it's scary because we have young talents, and having a coach who is not ready for the NHL, will ruin those talents.
@@leezwatz3339 St Louis 208 games coached, 77 wins, .435%.
@@edtamboni4752 it's actually 37% but who's counting
Time to start booing folks.
The core of this team is Guhle, Suzuki, Slafkovsky, Caufield. They were missing two of them. The habs are already a bottom 5 team with the core 4 in the lineup. With two of them missing, it quickly becomes a trainwreck. Savard and Gallagher can't keep up anymore. Don't expect those vets to tell the kids to try harder.
I wish I could give you multiple upvote
First, Slaf is not... yet.
Second, Gally and Savard are better teachers than MSL. He does nothing.
"Core 4"???
This is a stupid leafs thing not a Habs thing.
@@nancetardiff339 The entire original comment is ridiculous. I found it laughable.
@@nancetardiff339 Settle down there sparky. No need to bring the leafs into this. And when Demidov arrives we'll be talking about 5 core players anyway. Maybe 6 if Hutson can stop being a defensive liability.
Rangers land a big free agent, why can't Habs? The dirty little secret is that no one wants to play in Canada, where you have taxes to pay and are recognized on the street, and certainly not in Montreal, with a hockey history no one can live up to and fans who have to be at least 40 to even remember what it's like to celebrate a Cup. Add in the fact that the NHL is an American professional league with a few legacy Canadian franchises and that couldn't give a rat's glute for Canada, the fact that hockey is now a niche sport for the well-off, like tennis, and it's hard to work any enthusiasm any more for the NHL. Good luck to the Habs, but the panelists point to the problem: a lack of urgency on the ice. It doesn't matter if you win or lose: you're making millions.
Jacob Trouba has a bad reputation in the league
Put Matheson up on a wing because he’s a good skater, spends most of his time in the offensive zone AND he’s a lousy defenseman
How much youth is too much youth?
Said it before I'll say it again - Monty is just too inconsistent.....Perfect game to start the season then lets in 2 on 2 shots last game...Ugh...
They are not in the fight. They're soft, and slow, and not engaged. Easy to play against. Pezz, Xhekaj, Anderson need to step up and drag this team into a real battle. Hit everything... HARD! and let the refs sort it out. They need a wake-up call. MSL seems to want them to be 'smart' and not hard. F that!
Trade for Canadian players, like O. Tippet.
primeau is not going to work out
Youngsters getting worked over and injured, points out the lack of serious development & hitting training, and video scouting to address who is on the ice. Hab's are small and their collective, defensive details are lacking. Secondary coaches need to be replaced! Fundamentals are lacking, example: not skating through the whistle, trying to hot dog the F1 when you are the last D back...these are IQ-talent issues. All the skill hype is useless, when your young guys don't have the needed IQ. They really miss Kovacevic who was a plus minus leader and was a smart person, he knows how to simplify the game. Matheson is a hero, being injured but still trying to get after the much bigger Trouba. MSL needs to have Arber and Prez in the game, that is on him. He needs plans not 'concepts'. By the way "concepts" mirrors Trumps language, no 'plans' just 'concepts'.
MSL sucks and has sucked since day 1! We need an experienced coach 🤬
As long as Montréal limits themselves to a French speaking coach they will never win a cup again
@@Sparkyoleano Let's swap MSL for Roy. 😁
@@She_26 great goalie, but his track record as a coach is not so great.
@@Sparkyoleano He'd be better than MSL. He IS better than MSL.
@@She_26 maybe but Roy is not available
Habs will never see another cup..
They will, probably in 20-30 years
honda, clownfield, shitkovsky
don't worry, the cup is yours
😄
it would be ideal if montreal sold the franchise to quebec, you're an embarrassment for the nhl
Get rid of marty mouse and his no fighting mind set he’s going to ruin all the young talent no body on ice will protect them
The goaltending suck.
This is the worst couched team by far in NHL!
A great goalkeeper will help yo move upto 7 over all pick!😂
Young guys because the Habs are rebuiding!
it is now normal to them to loose night after night and THEY GET THE DAY OFF???????REALLY???THEY HAD THE NIGHT OFF AGAINST THE RANGERS.
HAHAHA. Perfect comment!
Hide a real coach and let Marty talk to the French fans over the media to shut up the idiot faction that says th must speak french
They have been taking wayyyyy too many stupid penalties. You can't expect to win when you are playing shorthanded for 30% of the game. They actually didn't play terribly against the Rangers in regard to offense, but defensively they made too many mistakes.
No worries, whiners and complaints will always be made in the Hen House . Still a rebuild team , what year are we in ? Plenty of time for improving things in the Roost . Look at how Edmonton did to start the year, last season . And they we not rebuilding. Anyhow GO HABS GO 🎉🎉🎉🎉!!!!
MSL is a good coach and will become a better one as time goes on. The core players are there but the defense needs to improve…so bring in a quality assistant coach for defense and stir in a couple of feisty tough players and all will be ok. I am less concerned about the loss but the play is trending backwards. Suzuki did bring some light to a dark day.
Why is MLS a good coach?
By far the worst coach in NHL !
How is he a good coach? He has proven NOTHING
ahahaahaaaaaahahahaaá
Are you serious? 😂
Worst coach and GM in a long time.
They suck
no desperation
young teams are hard to coach,going to be while before we go to the playoffs!!!!
after 6 games???ready to quit on marty???good thing he's tougher than all of you are.
Its the fourth season with Marty. Not 6 games...