$30k seems so much more reasonable for the first level, I just feel like a targeting option would be a good addition as well. Have you guys tried buying the statue since the price buff btw? Do you see yourselves buying it more often instead of other defensive towers?
This is a great buff for any mode outside of chimps. I just cant see myself getting this over more ddt damage which is far more importent with how short the lane is
@@amry_the_noob9846 fair point, it would be a more progressive buff then. Kinda funny how it would still be bad for its price even with a buff like that tho
No no no, NK *hates* their fans. They wouldn't intentionally make something "better". This is just a trick because even with it's price reduction it's still not worth the money. Not even close so just ignore and don't fall for it.
The statue would be perfect for pretty much any other map. Its one weakness is multiple lanes active at once, and there are up to 4 active lanes in Dark Dungeons, so it spends a lot of time traveling from one bloon to the other
The Smart targeting on the Spike Factory works weirdly on multilane maps. From my experience it will always target the lane with bloons closest to exit the lane. So when two lanes, one shorter and one longer have both bloons, say at the very start of them, the shorter one is going to be targeted, and when bloons keep spawning on both sides the shortest lane usually gets most of the spikes. I found out playing Chimps on Mesa where the Permaspike lays most of the spikes on the bottom lane because it's also the shorter one, to have an equal spread you want the Permaspike on Normal, and to even the RNG you also ideally want the range of the Permaspike covering equally the length of the two lanes. TL;DR Smart Permaspike on multilane maps isn't so smart
He had it set to wing monkey which makes the ace fly toward bloons. (I tend to like that better for the bloonshredder if I didn't place it in a good spot)
Simply a higher acceleration stat would be great for it, just so when it’s crossing from one side of the screen to the other it doesn’t waste time Oh and targeting options, a targeting option where it only targets bloons within a small radius around your mouse would be so good, just so you could make sure it focuses on one clump for a while before sending it somewhere else
Ethan, the ball is on Elite targeting, it’s weird but I found that out on my first run on this map, it’s super annoying however it is goo in most cases because it does get faster the farther the bloons are on the tracks, it’s like an Elite Sniper, Elite Defender, and Druid Of Wrath combination
I think you are mistaken on the orb targeting. It seems to follow same targeting priority as the elite targeting given by the 050 sniper monkey. You can see it go from moabs to ceramics when bloons get to a certain point on the track.
I would considering using it on chimps if it had Strong targeting and was maybe 30% faster. Not sure how well the unupgraded version would hold up in the late game though.
I think you should have gone for a spirit of the forrest instead of a perma spike. Spirit destroys anything that is not a MOAB class and the orb is great agianst MOABS. Then some glue gunners to slow everything down a bit.
I feel like this is a step in the right direction, but they should definitively still buff the travel speed of the ball or something, it's still one of the most expensive "towers", so it should be a little more consistent.
@@Apegocrazy but it's not the topic... The video topic is "is the energy ball worth the price? Is this 30k ball worth a 30k ish tower like a specter, sun avatar, glaive lord, etc.
@@paint_turtle i seriously doubt that archmage is best than the second ball upgrade. And I'm pretty sure that at this point, the dark champion would be better for the price
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$30k seems so much more reasonable for the first level, I just feel like a targeting option would be a good addition as well. Have you guys tried buying the statue since the price buff btw? Do you see yourselves buying it more often instead of other defensive towers?
Bold of you to assume I play this map
@@ffhorus6571 lmao
This is a great buff for any mode outside of chimps. I just cant see myself getting this over more ddt damage which is far more importent with how short the lane is
@@fimy3268 Just use the super mines.🗿
Can't afford it?
Just use the banana farm🗿🤯
@dinisfaria7001 you're right why didn't I think if 250 banana farm, might bring benjamin as well to help
They should've buffed it by adding an extra orb at level 3. It would really help its problem with targeting bloons
By its price, it should be one extra ball per level alongside damage
@@amry_the_noob9846 fair point, it would be a more progressive buff then. Kinda funny how it would still be bad for its price even with a buff like that tho
@@dontgoonthischannel1221 ikr? but something is better than nothing
No no no, NK *hates* their fans. They wouldn't intentionally make something "better". This is just a trick because even with it's price reduction it's still not worth the money. Not even close so just ignore and don't fall for it.
The statue would be perfect for pretty much any other map. Its one weakness is multiple lanes active at once, and there are up to 4 active lanes in Dark Dungeons, so it spends a lot of time traveling from one bloon to the other
Kinda dumb
Or at least have it be set to patrol between 2 points like the Helicopter. It is just too inconsistent for a multi lane map.
The Smart targeting on the Spike Factory works weirdly on multilane maps. From my experience it will always target the lane with bloons closest to exit the lane. So when two lanes, one shorter and one longer have both bloons, say at the very start of them, the shorter one is going to be targeted, and when bloons keep spawning on both sides the shortest lane usually gets most of the spikes. I found out playing Chimps on Mesa where the Permaspike lays most of the spikes on the bottom lane because it's also the shorter one, to have an equal spread you want the Permaspike on Normal, and to even the RNG you also ideally want the range of the Permaspike covering equally the length of the two lanes.
TL;DR Smart Permaspike on multilane maps isn't so smart
That's a lot of words for the perma spike is fucking stupid
Yeah I made the same experience and learned about that like a few weeks ago and I know a hell lot about this game. You never stop learning I guess.
Pretty sure wingman makes never miss darts worse, you want them further from the bloons, not closer.
Remember to target the neva miss on centered path and place it on the head of the statue instead of whatever Reid was doing
He had it set to wing monkey which makes the ace fly toward bloons. (I tend to like that better for the bloonshredder if I didn't place it in a good spot)
@@OneEyedOneHornedGian Yea I know that, I'm just saying the neva miss is always better in a spot where it's aiming towards the bloons
Bomber ace + Wingmonkey is pretty good on most non-Geared maps because it keeps passing over the track.
@@westein1282 What am I saying about this being a neva-miss-thing only again?
11:50 i think that is because the alcemist gives range to the perma spike and that it only lays spikes there when it has the range buff
Simply a higher acceleration stat would be great for it, just so when it’s crossing from one side of the screen to the other it doesn’t waste time
Oh and targeting options, a targeting option where it only targets bloons within a small radius around your mouse would be so good, just so you could make sure it focuses on one clump for a while before sending it somewhere else
Ethan, the ball is on Elite targeting, it’s weird but I found that out on my first run on this map, it’s super annoying however it is goo in most cases because it does get faster the farther the bloons are on the tracks, it’s like an Elite Sniper, Elite Defender, and Druid Of Wrath combination
Imagine that thing on follow mouse!
I think you are mistaken on the orb targeting. It seems to follow same targeting priority as the elite targeting given by the 050 sniper monkey. You can see it go from moabs to ceramics when bloons get to a certain point on the track.
1:46 is no one gonna talk about the level up
I would considering using it on chimps if it had Strong targeting and was maybe 30% faster. Not sure how well the unupgraded version would hold up in the late game though.
It’s on elite targeting it seems
Also buffing it so that level 3 has 2 orbs, 1 on smart and 1 on strong, would be mad helpful
I think you should have gone for a spirit of the forrest instead of a perma spike. Spirit destroys anything that is not a MOAB class and the orb is great agianst MOABS. Then some glue gunners to slow everything down a bit.
"It deals with the MOABs, but then there's the ceramics."
And that is why 1|4|0 Druids all huddled around a 2|2|0 Village exist :DDDD
Level 22, congrats!! ^^
I personally would have went with a bloon solver
Small question, where do you put it?
it isnt very effective on this map.
i didn't even know they cheapened it
I feel like this is a step in the right direction, but they should definitively still buff the travel speed of the ball or something, it's still one of the most expensive "towers", so it should be a little more consistent.
tbh spectre is probably better and it also has early instead of straight up 30k
It does chase ceramics that came about half way through though
I feel like it at lvl 2 should have 2, 50% damage balls and they should shoot PURPLE POPPING LASERS so it could solve the path problem
The permaspike alc buff sometimes ran out, causing shorter range and making it unable to reach the second lane I think
I feel like the targeting ia not on strong, but on elite. It tried to pop ceramic with moabs and bfbs on the same screen
I think you could do 2-0-4 Ace to help defending
Encrypted thing is the most expensive secret tower
Is it just me or ethan has been uploading more long videos recently
Thats still almost 2 big planes thats crazy
Hey Ethan! I love your videos, but I'd really like higher video quality.
Might be usable now
I think it has Elite targeting prio.
Insane
functional tower
Hello Ethan.
Why is the first upgrade 30k and not 25k?
Why do I always read price as pierce?!?😂😂😂
To be fair you ahouldnt just compare to spectre, comapre it to buying alchemist, support or a lot of cheaper towers
Needs clean up... doesn't buy t5 druid = come on. You cannot have better clean up.
Its still useless get 5-0-2 wizzard
Archamage (with arcane spike and all previous upgrades) is over 43k, so it's quite unfair to compare it to a tower that's nearly 1.5x more expensive
5-0-2 wizards are goated with pat fusty
@@Apegocrazy but it's not the topic... The video topic is "is the energy ball worth the price? Is this 30k ball worth a 30k ish tower like a specter, sun avatar, glaive lord, etc.
@@lulu82o it will be better than second tier orb, not even talking about buff possibilities
@@paint_turtle i seriously doubt that archmage is best than the second ball upgrade. And I'm pretty sure that at this point, the dark champion would be better for the price
nice
sm1 buy me btd6 xD
It is 8 bucks at most bro
@@popolenzo8190 i suppose, i just dont hv any way of online transaction
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3 min ago and very early also 9th comment, 15th like
Nobody cares shut up bot
7th
should be like 1500 and then 3000 instead of 15,000 and 30,000 ....