I wanted to try a hybrid build similar to this but focused less on CP,which would use Circlet of Desire and its set for 10% boost to AP,Wp,MAx hp,which can get you to 4k hp+.At that level you can solo everything in the game with the parries and healing from Deposed king echo/Broodmother SilReth echo
that sounds like a pretty chill setup for expedition farming. I think 3k hp is roughly the threshold to avoid a lot of oneshots in the higher level zones
Yeah, this build is quite strong. I went with different daggers just because I wanted to maintain the venom/poison theme and since I’m not overly concerned with perfect min maxing doesn’t bother me. I’m level 25 at the moment, even with only like half the crit power you have in wrecking everything.
I havent found a single wolf echo yet. ran a looot of hollow heart missions now an wolfes only spawn if u do the big sword event and then only 1-2 spawn and they have never given the echo yet. is there any place where you can find more wolfes?
is ability power worth it? i feel like if you stack WP and CP is way better. because the dots base damage is quite low and few thousands of AP doesnt add much. what do you think?
i think that build can be only because, of bug of max orb you can use, if you see on venom he got 336/300, and on weapon 80 point up from max orb, without this bug, can be a big burst dmg
The extra echo cost just comes from me upgrading echos, the build works totally fine at a base echo level otherwise I wouldn't have wasted the resources.
Quick answer - WP is fine and I'm definitely still testing out everything but if you're building pure crit power your build will naturally lean more AP in my opinion. In this we've got almost equivalent AP and WP. Long answer - Weapon power is an option but the current state of the game has the highest level crit power echos leaning more towards AP+Crit whereas the highest leveled echos for WP lean more towards WP and break power so naturally if you're using the strongest crit power echos the build just leans more towards AP. We're also getting WP buffs from our flourishes and by having a decent mixture of both we're able to benefit even more from the 2 double hit elixirs and crit power while still having abilities that are actually usable. At the end of the day we only have about 2k more AP than WP (and thats without leveling up the WP affinity on the daggers so in reality it's a lot closer). Its a crit power focused hybrid build that gains tremendously from both WP and AP due to crit power so try out different stats that fit your playstyle and see how it goes. Definitely open to discussion and testing new things so let me know if you try it!
@@Soloplayerggz I think the bears in highlands can drop an echo thats crit/wp and is lvl 20 just like talon echo. Might be worth looking into if you want to minimax.
Hope this helps some people out! Should I do Silo next? Let me know if you have any questions. Like comment and subscribe! EDIT: Here is where to find the OP Elixirs th-cam.com/video/vywDVzizJng/w-d-xo.html
Obviously the dot ticks wouldnt be as high but i would really like to see what would happen if you converted all that AP to WP and just went weapon power and crit. would like to see a damage comparison to them.
Just so you know as well when you do the a one stack flourish with daggers it gives a 15% weapon power buff for 15 seconds and refreshes when you use 2 an 3 flourish.
@@preemptivefaceplant5277 people tested this and there are diminishing returns, so you almost always want a hybrid build unless you are fully AP (like Kyros) or fully WP (like Wingrave)
This is nuts! Been following the Ven theorycrafting discord for a while and been loving the crit version of Nightshade but this is just insane. Definitely crafting those daggers as we speak lol. Do you do farming runs with the daggers as well? How do you find they hold up in places like HH farming? Any recommendations/changes for that?
I use the build for everything but if I was minmaxing for farming expeditions I'd probably include more health just because some of those mob animations are painful and the builds super high damage ramps up over time. Nightshade is solid too.
Hello! What do you think of the venon dagger for this build? I got it and the night's edge, but I don't know which one to use Could you help me with this?
dont know if you still reply but where do i get the Duskhunter Elite Echo from? i just find the Silent Butcher and his 2 Duskhunter brutes and both dont drop the Crit & Ability Power Echos
Really great build! I knew crit had big potential, but was focused on kyros currently. I have the Níghts Edge ready to get in the forgery since 1 week, i think it's about time, even though i still have to level ven :c but als great video overall from showcasing the build, how it performs and layout :)
Started playing wayfinder this week and needed sadly to recongince that they changed the mastery and removed the crit chance completly, you gain now 3 life regen orbs gg
I haven't maxed all of the daggers so I don't want to say definitively but I'd say right now nights edge and maybe Venom are the 2 daggers I'd rock in this build.
I was going to ask this specific question. Is Venom better for this exact build? I have farmed up the nights edge but not leveled it as I have been using tempest on her thus far. I have kyros as my main, but have been loving her play style. I want to verify if venom or nights edge for sure before I put in that much more work.@@Soloplayerggz
Nice vid bro, you got +1 sub here. I tried this build, but I guess it's not suitable for expidition farming since I usually get one shotted using this build. Can you make a video for OP ven expedition build?
If you're having problems with survivability you can just add some health echos. It'll work in either mode. Guns also make expeditions a lot easier.Will definitely make some more builds though, thanks for the suggestion!
this might be a dumb question, but why would this build work on venomess as opposed to someone like niss or kyros? or does it work on both characters? do the dots that accumulate overshadow the damage that kyros and niss does? this build sounds pretty appealing, but i already have an AP niss built that deals a crap ton of damage. just interested in understanding whos damage comes out on top on this build vs an AP niss build
and would switching nights edge to tempest work too? with how echoes work rn id hate to rearrange my niss' night's edge echoes to fit this ven build lol
did this get patched i built this and i was doing S4 beast master in like 32 seconds came back for the update and now its like hitting him with a wet noodle >.
Current max level is 30. Accessories drop not based on character level but based off the level of the zone you're doing. So ideally around zone level 2313 you'd be getting lvl 30 accessory drops. Whereas if you did lower than that you might get level 25 accessories or if you did higher you might get level 31+ accessories that can't be equipped yet. Does that answer your question?
id really like to figure out what is the best crit amount like what number does the diminishing returns of the scalling make it not worth it. or like will 8k weapon dmg with 5k crit power will that crit for more than 3k weapon power than with 10k crit power? id like to know what the percentages are not the rating number if that makes sense
For a more balanced build where you're not getting crit passives I think I remember reading some theorycrafting that 4-5k crit rating gives a consistent amount of crits. Don't quote me on it because a lot of the damage formulas in the game are still being worked out and seem to vary from character to character and weapon to weapon.
@@Soloplayerggz yea its just i got a niss and i love dags cause the parry and i frame abuse you can do. is just i want to get that build through the roof but i dont wanna be a one shot kill either so im trying to figure out the path to take so far im working on weapon power and even crit rating to crit power but i feel like its always best to stack one thing instead of splitting it up but some games have diminishing returns bad too like with your build i can understand how you are scaling it but niss doesnt have that as much so its less niss has movement based abilities but i like that for the oh shit moments and i can clear a football field fast and get out of shit sitaution in like hollow heart. i guess the problem is im not decked im 30 on a right path just cant seem to decide which way to go at the upcoming split in the road tbh i was thinking of not going 10k weapon power like ive seen others do and go like 7k maybe 8 k and then stacking crit rating man how i wish niss had crit buff like venom does
@@Soloplayerggz im 2340 in my best gear setup but im just farming shit still and im leveling my 3rd legendary that ive built ive been farming bosses alot lol not alot of drops on bosses lol
@@Soloplayerggz i should upload a couple vids i recorded and put em up on my channel i have none on there yet mostly just some wow vids and rc shit and some other games here and there
So, I want to use this build to farm bosses, but my Venomess is still low level, do you think I can start building these stats while leveling or should I only do it towards 30?
Tricky question. I think you could try and get these stats but I wouldn't recommend trying to farm the accessories while you're still leveling or you'll just end up having to do it again at lvl 30. You might find it easier to level with a pure weapon power or hybrid build instead but I can't say for sure. Hope that helps.
I'm still relatively new to the game... but can someone explain to me why he can have an echo capacity of 336/300 on Venomess and 312 out of 240 on those daggers? What did I miss that lets him do that?
I managed to do this as well but I have no idea how. I THINK it happens when you equip low level echo, and then you level it up. This makes it cost more capacity so it just goes beyond.
So if you get your item rate levels in there let's say it's 240... And you max it out with level zero echoes then you can raise the level of the echos and not have echos booted off the item. Effectively making it go beyond or in some cases very far beyond what the level cap was supposed to be.
Probably not in the current state of the game, in my opinion. In terms of upfront damage possibly but with high crit power we're scaling both our AP and WP. So if i dumped a ton of it into WP i'd be losing out on the extra AP damage. Hybrid build works totally fine, I've done a AP/WP/CR build with Nightshade but I think with the current scaling and also the benefit of the elixirs and dagger mastery it feels like Crit power is the way to go. I mentioned it in the video but the reaver woods zone which features more of the higher level echos we want also seems to lean more heavily towards AP. If there was an equally strong WP/Crit power echo I'd definitely give it a shot but the wolf echo + talon echo seems like the best combo at the moment in terms of stat efficiency. Again just my opinion, i'm open to trying different variations so if you thin that works better for you let me know and I'll be more than happy to try it out. Let me know what you think. Cheers
@@Soloplayerggz From what I've gathered from Discord and other content creators, CP doesn't scale good at all. That's why they went WP or AP stacking. A Kyros with 11-13K AP deals 20-25K DMG per skill. Rake or something . And I wonder if you won't get more DMG stacking WP followed by CP on Venomess since the weapon dots(Venom) scale with WP and not AP.
Is there a better accessory set you'd go for that you haven't or don't want to grind for? Like one of those stupid low drop rate boss sets? edit: The fallen archon set seems insane. Probably not worth going for tho considering its a boss set and the chances of getting both pieces with double attack slots is 0.
I'm working on farming all the "rare" sets just to test things out. The tough part about a lot of the sets is they either drop at a way lower level or the individual pieces provide too many wasted stats to make it worth it. For this particular build I think the Hazardous Quarry set would be the one I'd be interesting in trying the most simply because it provides AP and crit power and the individual pieces are pretty good on their own. It's also tough to repeatedly farm for good echo slots. Can the fallen archon set drop at level 28-30? IIRC creed doesn't go up that high but I could be wrong.
@@Soloplayerggz Not sure if it drops that high actually I wasn't even thinking of that. I haven't gotten a piece myself so I've no clue. Only boss piece the game has ever graced me with is from Maras and that's only cuz it took me 6 hours to get that potions recipe. Hazardous Quarry seems pretty strong tho. Not sure if the crit increase would be worth farming out a whole new set if you already have the gloom set with good slots but def seems like a competitive alternative.
From what I've played of Heroic Kyros, he has fantastic 1 shot potential which is great for skipping phases in a fight like dread legion but in terms of actual DPS venomess runs over him IMO. Both great characters and good boss farmers though and I'll be working on a Kyros build shortly so my opinion might change.
@@Soloplayerggz ok thank you. I have both but neither at lvl30. I enjoy Venomess play style more so was hoping that was the findings. Subbing to channel. Thank you will be looking for your Kyros vid. Reworking my Venomess. I was building her more AP
In my opinion the rush echos just aren't worth it right now. They cost a ton of echo power and while the dread legion echo gives a nice stat boost its very easy to waste the effect and end up with a wasted echo slot and a 45 second cooldown. If they buff rush echos or reduce the cooldowns ABSOLUTELY would rock dread legion.
Brother, I just can't seem to get any Talon Echo other than green !!!! How rare are these blue and purple, or was there an update to where they no longer drop ??
Working on leveling it now. The issue with venom is the animation for its ability is kind of annoying to deal with and you miss out on 1000 ability power. Definitely interested in using it though. Both of them work.
This build is broken but unfortunately it's still Melee and right now it's just far easier and more efficient to run ranged with a gun. How would this build work with Nightshade? Seems like the 2 time weapon hits and crit would still be pretty broken on Nightshade
Eh it's early access, I'm not expecting any of the current characters to not go through changes before launch. Just gotta enjoy them and farm while we can you know?
Tired of people sleeping on the crit stats in this game lol good build at least one the encourages creativity and something other then go full WP or AP
@@danieltschornyj9373 Talon echos drop from the Talon mobs in any of the Reaver Woods maps. They're a super common enemy so you shouldn't have to do any kind of resetting.
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Will there be an updated build video for the Echoes update?
Just need them to release it on console XD
Would love to be no-lifing it right now but literally can't play yet lol
@@Soloplayerggz RIP, hope that happens soon!
@@LightningBlaze100 Same!
Awesome vid, cant say ive seen any build guides to this quality yet
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
As someone who plan to main Ven, i'm a 100% going to follow this build, thanks a lot for this video!
Glad you like it, let me know if you have any questions.
Hey there! was just checking out the build and i was curious what talent points you would use with it? leaning twords prowess
I wanted to try a hybrid build similar to this but focused less on CP,which would use Circlet of Desire and its set for 10% boost to AP,Wp,MAx hp,which can get you to 4k hp+.At that level you can solo everything in the game with the parries and healing from Deposed king echo/Broodmother SilReth echo
that sounds like a pretty chill setup for expedition farming. I think 3k hp is roughly the threshold to avoid a lot of oneshots in the higher level zones
Where do you get Unstable Ancient's Tear recipe? There is NOTHING on the internet.
Has a chance of dropping from bloodworks as a completion reward
@morthiasx Just made a video for it! th-cam.com/video/vywDVzizJng/w-d-xo.html
Mimic boss devourer
Thanks for the vid! Again where is the potions drops I heard AP drops from the maras ?
Ancients tear drops from Bloodworks actually. Video guide here - th-cam.com/video/vywDVzizJng/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, this build is quite strong. I went with different daggers just because I wanted to maintain the venom/poison theme and since I’m not overly concerned with perfect min maxing doesn’t bother me. I’m level 25 at the moment, even with only like half the crit power you have in wrecking everything.
Which dungeons did you farm the set with shadow imbuement? been running shrouded woods with shadow imbue but no luck :(
Thanks for the video. I am currently working on this build was wondering how effective it was going to be. Just have to grind it out.
Do you have any footage of expeditions with this build? Would love to see how it does in those.
The wolves spawn in the shrouded woods and boon orchard fighting pits that's the best place to target farm them
Where do u get Items required to start the PIT?
@@kamilkowalski3041 you just have to kill everything and light the torch
Nice guide! Where do I get the RECIPE : UNSTABLE ANCIENT'S TEAR ?
Bloodworks! - Video guide just dropped here - th-cam.com/video/vywDVzizJng/w-d-xo.html
I havent found a single wolf echo yet. ran a looot of hollow heart missions now an wolfes only spawn if u do the big sword event and then only 1-2 spawn and they have never given the echo yet.
is there any place where you can find more wolfes?
This is INSANE! I just started playing. Is it still viable after the latest update?
is ability power worth it? i feel like if you stack WP and CP is way better. because the dots base damage is quite low and few thousands of AP doesnt add much. what do you think?
i think that build can be only because, of bug of max orb you can use, if you see on venom he got 336/300, and on weapon 80 point up from max orb, without this bug, can be a big burst dmg
The extra echo cost just comes from me upgrading echos, the build works totally fine at a base echo level otherwise I wouldn't have wasted the resources.
Quick answer - WP is fine and I'm definitely still testing out everything but if you're building pure crit power your build will naturally lean more AP in my opinion. In this we've got almost equivalent AP and WP.
Long answer -
Weapon power is an option but the current state of the game has the highest level crit power echos leaning more towards AP+Crit whereas the highest leveled echos for WP lean more towards WP and break power so naturally if you're using the strongest crit power echos the build just leans more towards AP.
We're also getting WP buffs from our flourishes and by having a decent mixture of both we're able to benefit even more from the 2 double hit elixirs and crit power while still having abilities that are actually usable.
At the end of the day we only have about 2k more AP than WP (and thats without leveling up the WP affinity on the daggers so in reality it's a lot closer). Its a crit power focused hybrid build that gains tremendously from both WP and AP due to crit power so try out different stats that fit your playstyle and see how it goes.
Definitely open to discussion and testing new things so let me know if you try it!
@@Soloplayerggz yeah i know, its a bug, but a nice burst build😁
@@Soloplayerggz I think the bears in highlands can drop an echo thats crit/wp and is lvl 20 just like talon echo. Might be worth looking into if you want to minimax.
Hope this helps some people out! Should I do Silo next? Let me know if you have any questions.
Like comment and subscribe! EDIT: Here is where to find the OP Elixirs th-cam.com/video/vywDVzizJng/w-d-xo.html
Great video bro. Definitely do Silo next!
@@SnoOwpro Thanks broski I think I'm going to!
Obviously the dot ticks wouldnt be as high but i would really like to see what would happen if you converted all that AP to WP and just went weapon power and crit. would like to see a damage comparison to them.
Just so you know as well when you do the a one stack flourish with daggers it gives a 15% weapon power buff for 15 seconds and refreshes when you use 2 an 3 flourish.
@@preemptivefaceplant5277 people tested this and there are diminishing returns, so you almost always want a hybrid build unless you are fully AP (like Kyros) or fully WP (like Wingrave)
This is nuts! Been following the Ven theorycrafting discord for a while and been loving the crit version of Nightshade but this is just insane. Definitely crafting those daggers as we speak lol. Do you do farming runs with the daggers as well? How do you find they hold up in places like HH farming? Any recommendations/changes for that?
I use the build for everything but if I was minmaxing for farming expeditions I'd probably include more health just because some of those mob animations are painful and the builds super high damage ramps up over time. Nightshade is solid too.
Could you tell me how to get into the theorycraft dc?
how do you get the lvl 30 accesories ? cause i only get lvl 29 from expeditions that are 2313
Hey mate, i wanted to ask you where did you get this venomess skin. I bought the exalted and didn't get it.
Hi I join this game after 1.0, are you still playing? Can this build work at current versuin?
Hello!
What do you think of the venon dagger for this build?
I got it and the night's edge, but I don't know which one to use
Could you help me with this?
As a new player i've seen a lot of videos of different classes and most if not all use daggers are they OP or is there another reason ?
Just came across this video. I would like to see a boss Rush video with this build if possible.
Sounds cool, might give that a go!
@@Soloplayerggz Like he said boss rushes would be nice. Like the big 3. Deciever, First and legion
dont know if you still reply but where do i get the Duskhunter Elite Echo from? i just find the Silent Butcher and his 2 Duskhunter brutes and both dont drop the Crit & Ability Power Echos
from where I can get wayfinder unstable ancient tear ?
Bloodworks - Guide here th-cam.com/video/vywDVzizJng/w-d-xo.html
Really great build! I knew crit had big potential, but was focused on kyros currently. I have the Níghts Edge ready to get in the forgery since 1 week, i think it's about time, even though i still have to level ven :c
but als great video overall from showcasing the build, how it performs and layout :)
Glad you liked the video broski! Hopefully they implement the exp scrolls so you don't have to spend 9 years leveling lol
do you have to youse nights edge, or does it not matter witch dagers you equipp?
You could probably use different ones, Nights Edge just has nice stats.
hello, could you test explosive venom affinity? which is better explosive venom or critical toxin?
I prefer critical toxin. I can't test the other because we can't respec affinities. Sorry!
Started playing wayfinder this week and needed sadly to recongince that they changed the mastery and removed the crit chance completly, you gain now 3 life regen orbs gg
No it's definitely still there. You're probably on the wrong class.
@@Soloplayerggz yes thank you, i had only 1 class this moment and didnt know that every class has different mastery´s on the same weapon. xD
one thing i dont understan is how are u over the echo capacity and able to place them inside ??
he upgrades them inside of the slots.
Is nights edge the best dagger for this build?
I haven't maxed all of the daggers so I don't want to say definitively but I'd say right now nights edge and maybe Venom are the 2 daggers I'd rock in this build.
I was going to ask this specific question. Is Venom better for this exact build? I have farmed up the nights edge but not leveled it as I have been using tempest on her thus far. I have kyros as my main, but have been loving her play style. I want to verify if venom or nights edge for sure before I put in that much more work.@@Soloplayerggz
Does the DOT scale off AP only? Or is it based on the weapon hit as a stat stick?
Wouldnt Bonebreaker echo be better than Wolf? I mean it gives bit less crit power but you can get a ton of them easily
I have 10k Wp and 4k Crit Power, can work the same like that or the crit is a must for that build? (plus in every build crit power> AP and WP?)
How do you have perma 3 stack on the heavy? Does that have to do with the elixirs?
no idea if youre still replying, but how did you fit that many echos into the daggers? i feel i dont have enough capacity for a lot rn
Nice vid bro, you got +1 sub here. I tried this build, but I guess it's not suitable for expidition farming since I usually get one shotted using this build. Can you make a video for OP ven expedition build?
If you're having problems with survivability you can just add some health echos. It'll work in either mode.
Guns also make expeditions a lot easier.Will definitely make some more builds though, thanks for the suggestion!
I feel like I've seen u on skylight before ur character and name seem familiar
Definitely possible!
Hey have you tried legion accessories
Hows your survivability
Do you get one shot if you get hit?
Where do I find all the accessories for this build
have any build before that? for Low lv?
Do weapons have different flourish abilities with each wayfinder? i dont have that critical multiplier one...
Yes all masterys change depending on the archetype of the character. Ven/Silo have the same, Niss/Kyros the same, Senja/Wingrave the same.
Bias question, what's your favorite char?
In terms of looks I'd say Kyros is my favorite
@@Soloplayerggz what about terms of what you pay the most?
this might be a dumb question, but why would this build work on venomess as opposed to someone like niss or kyros? or does it work on both characters? do the dots that accumulate overshadow the damage that kyros and niss does?
this build sounds pretty appealing, but i already have an AP niss built that deals a crap ton of damage. just interested in understanding whos damage comes out on top on this build vs an AP niss build
and would switching nights edge to tempest work too? with how echoes work rn id hate to rearrange my niss' night's edge echoes to fit this ven build lol
did this get patched i built this and i was doing S4 beast master in like 32 seconds came back for the update and now its like hitting him with a wet noodle >.
So the max lvl is 30, but the armor keeps going up? Trying to understand the system
Current max level is 30.
Accessories drop not based on character level but based off the level of the zone you're doing. So ideally around zone level 2313 you'd be getting lvl 30 accessory drops. Whereas if you did lower than that you might get level 25 accessories or if you did higher you might get level 31+ accessories that can't be equipped yet. Does that answer your question?
id really like to figure out what is the best crit amount like what number does the diminishing returns of the scalling make it not worth it. or like will 8k weapon dmg with 5k crit power will that crit for more than 3k weapon power than with 10k crit power? id like to know what the percentages are not the rating number if that makes sense
For a more balanced build where you're not getting crit passives I think I remember reading some theorycrafting that 4-5k crit rating gives a consistent amount of crits. Don't quote me on it because a lot of the damage formulas in the game are still being worked out and seem to vary from character to character and weapon to weapon.
@@Soloplayerggz yea its just i got a niss and i love dags cause the parry and i frame abuse you can do. is just i want to get that build through the roof but i dont wanna be a one shot kill either so im trying to figure out the path to take so far im working on weapon power and even crit rating to crit power but i feel like its always best to stack one thing instead of splitting it up but some games have diminishing returns bad too like with your build i can understand how you are scaling it but niss doesnt have that as much so its less niss has movement based abilities but i like that for the oh shit moments and i can clear a football field fast and get out of shit sitaution in like hollow heart. i guess the problem is im not decked im 30 on a right path just cant seem to decide which way to go at the upcoming split in the road tbh i was thinking of not going 10k weapon power like ive seen others do and go like 7k maybe 8 k and then stacking crit rating man how i wish niss had crit buff like venom does
@@Soloplayerggz im 2340 in my best gear setup but im just farming shit still and im leveling my 3rd legendary that ive built ive been farming bosses alot lol not alot of drops on bosses lol
@@Soloplayerggz i should upload a couple vids i recorded and put em up on my channel i have none on there yet mostly just some wow vids and rc shit and some other games here and there
@@petejones6827 the biggest issue is that we dont even get to see our percentages so its really hard to tell.
how hard is it to get the set? I do maybe 60 runs and didnt get a drop :/
So, I want to use this build to farm bosses, but my Venomess is still low level, do you think I can start building these stats while leveling or should I only do it towards 30?
Tricky question. I think you could try and get these stats but I wouldn't recommend trying to farm the accessories while you're still leveling or you'll just end up having to do it again at lvl 30. You might find it easier to level with a pure weapon power or hybrid build instead but I can't say for sure. Hope that helps.
Where did you get it essence of night ?
Farm with shadow imbuement on
I'm still relatively new to the game... but can someone explain to me why he can have an echo capacity of 336/300 on Venomess and 312 out of 240 on those daggers? What did I miss that lets him do that?
I managed to do this as well but I have no idea how. I THINK it happens when you equip low level echo, and then you level it up. This makes it cost more capacity so it just goes beyond.
So if you get your item rate levels in there let's say it's 240... And you max it out with level zero echoes then you can raise the level of the echos and not have echos booted off the item. Effectively making it go beyond or in some cases very far beyond what the level cap was supposed to be.
How much does it cost to buy a venomous through the battle pass?
where do you get the greater primeval 2 potion from ?
From which boss you get the unstable ancients tear?
Video guide here - th-cam.com/video/vywDVzizJng/w-d-xo.html
Bloodworks
are you dodging or parrying for the most part?
Brother, can you tell me exactly where I can farm these wolf echoes?
Reaver Woods they drop from wolves
The best build, Thanks. Kyros build please.
Is the combat in this game engaging? or u get bored after 15-20 hours
I love it
where do i get the shadow inked journal?
You can craft it at the place you craft accessories.
Wouldn't you get more DMG is you lower your CP and get more WP ?
Probably not in the current state of the game, in my opinion. In terms of upfront damage possibly but with high crit power we're scaling both our AP and WP. So if i dumped a ton of it into WP i'd be losing out on the extra AP damage.
Hybrid build works totally fine, I've done a AP/WP/CR build with Nightshade but I think with the current scaling and also the benefit of the elixirs and dagger mastery it feels like Crit power is the way to go.
I mentioned it in the video but the reaver woods zone which features more of the higher level echos we want also seems to lean more heavily towards AP. If there was an equally strong WP/Crit power echo I'd definitely give it a shot but the wolf echo + talon echo seems like the best combo at the moment in terms of stat efficiency.
Again just my opinion, i'm open to trying different variations so if you thin that works better for you let me know and I'll be more than happy to try it out. Let me know what you think. Cheers
@@Soloplayerggz From what I've gathered from Discord and other content creators, CP doesn't scale good at all.
That's why they went WP or AP stacking.
A Kyros with 11-13K AP deals 20-25K DMG per skill. Rake or something .
And I wonder if you won't get more DMG stacking WP followed by CP on Venomess since the weapon dots(Venom) scale with WP and not AP.
Is there a better accessory set you'd go for that you haven't or don't want to grind for? Like one of those stupid low drop rate boss sets?
edit: The fallen archon set seems insane. Probably not worth going for tho considering its a boss set and the chances of getting both pieces with double attack slots is 0.
I'm working on farming all the "rare" sets just to test things out. The tough part about a lot of the sets is they either drop at a way lower level or the individual pieces provide too many wasted stats to make it worth it.
For this particular build I think the Hazardous Quarry set would be the one I'd be interesting in trying the most simply because it provides AP and crit power and the individual pieces are pretty good on their own. It's also tough to repeatedly farm for good echo slots.
Can the fallen archon set drop at level 28-30? IIRC creed doesn't go up that high but I could be wrong.
@@Soloplayerggz Not sure if it drops that high actually I wasn't even thinking of that. I haven't gotten a piece myself so I've no clue. Only boss piece the game has ever graced me with is from Maras and that's only cuz it took me 6 hours to get that potions recipe.
Hazardous Quarry seems pretty strong tho. Not sure if the crit increase would be worth farming out a whole new set if you already have the gloom set with good slots but def seems like a competitive alternative.
Hey how do i get the essence of spirit and bottle of shadows?
I farmed reaver woods zones with shadow imbue
Do you go to Reaver Woods with 1 or 2 shadows?
1
Do you think she can out damage Kyros?
From what I've played of Heroic Kyros, he has fantastic 1 shot potential which is great for skipping phases in a fight like dread legion but in terms of actual DPS venomess runs over him IMO. Both great characters and good boss farmers though and I'll be working on a Kyros build shortly so my opinion might change.
@@Soloplayerggz ok thank you. I have both but neither at lvl30. I enjoy Venomess play style more so was hoping that was the findings. Subbing to channel. Thank you will be looking for your Kyros vid. Reworking my Venomess. I was building her more AP
Giving it a solid 9/10 the minus 1 is because im jealous. haha
lol I'll take it
how do i get ancient's tear potion?
Bloodworks - Video guide here for all the strong potions th-cam.com/video/vywDVzizJng/w-d-xo.html
Wouldnt legion echo be good for this?
In my opinion the rush echos just aren't worth it right now. They cost a ton of echo power and while the dread legion echo gives a nice stat boost its very easy to waste the effect and end up with a wasted echo slot and a 45 second cooldown. If they buff rush echos or reduce the cooldowns ABSOLUTELY would rock dread legion.
Where can i get wolf echo?
Specific map
Any of the reaver woods maps. Shrouded woods, bone orchard and hollow.
does guardian melee and executioner melee mastery tree affect daggers?
No
The dagger echo slot polarity is a joke drom the developer right?
Where exactly can I get the accessories
Brother, I just can't seem to get any Talon Echo other than green !!!! How rare are these blue and purple, or was there an update to where they no longer drop ??
It's just RNG broski.
This build still work for echoes update?
Haven't gotten to play the echoes update so no clue
If I want to use her signature gun can I use the same build?
Yeah you could, the damage profile is different but the concept is the same.
@@Soloplayerggz ah okay ty
Step 1: get level 30 character and weapon alright now
Step 2: finish step 1 because i didnt get to level up my characters or weapons
how the hell did you manage to farm the 2 relics man that never drops for me any tips ? T+T thanks for the detailed video good work
The artifacts? Tons and tons of boss runs lol
@@Soloplayerggz i am talking about the relics your gear where did you farm them from i seem to not have even one
shouldnt venom itself even be the better choice? great vid and build btw, tyvm
Working on leveling it now. The issue with venom is the animation for its ability is kind of annoying to deal with and you miss out on 1000 ability power. Definitely interested in using it though. Both of them work.
fun trying out stuff and not every meta is known before a game release. ty for answering
@@Soloplayerggz
New to the game but how do you get that venomness skin?
It was in the shop last week, just wait for the shop to rotate and hope that it's there.
Is there a reason u used nights edge rather than venom dagger?
Burst damage and stats. Venom is nice too, just don't have it maxed out. Also the venom animation for its weapon skill feels odd.
hey, this build still works?
Does this build only works with Nights Edge ?
No, you could probably run it with most of the daggers and even the nightshade rifle.
How is your BP level so high already?
I play a lot 😇
if only i could respect ... oh well
I hear you
would this work with Niss?
Probably not since niss doesn't have venom passive.
How do you equip 2 potions?
Continue your quests, its unlocked at a certain point
Whelp. This is fine
Nothing to see here 😁
Did this get patched ?
My mans saud "a bagillion" thats my kinda numbers
How are you hitting so fast tho?
Daggers hit fast + dot ticks + multihit weaponskill
This build is broken but unfortunately it's still Melee and right now it's just far easier and more efficient to run ranged with a gun. How would this build work with Nightshade? Seems like the 2 time weapon hits and crit would still be pretty broken on Nightshade
Works perfectly fine with nightshade
you know what's funny, if they nerf that my char is dead lol cuz i cant even reset the affinity to change it
lol bro i'll be in the exact same position as you if thats the case. But also that particular affinity will be strong regardless.
@@Soloplayerggzquestion: have you tried full ability power venomness? also what does higher poison damage? only crit?
wolf echoes are a myth bro they never drop for me
Indeed, I need where exactly wolf echoes drops. which mob?
ik from where its the 1st snow area @@xanderpainagan1561
They drop from Wolves in Reaver Woods. That's it
@@Soloplayerggz my friends got also from hollow heart sword event so ithink its just rng
Bro there’s no builds ou there for niss Lol
lol I'll make one once I get her leveled up. It's a pain with the leveling changes + the inability to reroll affinities you know?
Actually there are a few but you cant do that on Niss. At least I havent found a way to come close to that.
This character is not even in my game .but is the reason i bought the game poison and healing . I see her everywhere . I geuss my game is broken
Going suck once you can't go over capacity
Not at all. Wouldn't have upgraded my echos without the build working beforehand.
Now watch it get nerfed after this video
Eh it's early access, I'm not expecting any of the current characters to not go through changes before launch. Just gotta enjoy them and farm while we can you know?
You want wolf or bone breaker wolf echos are so rare it's not funny
Wolf echos are definitely annoying to acquire. Thankfully talons are pretty easy though.
@@Soloplayerggzand from which mob am i getting the talon echo? Should i finish the zone or quit it to get the echoes faster?
Tired of people sleeping on the crit stats in this game lol good build at least one the encourages creativity and something other then go full WP or AP
@@danieltschornyj9373 the panthers give talon i been trying to farm the trees for weapon dmg res echoes and i have only got one on like 30 kills
@@danieltschornyj9373 Talon echos drop from the Talon mobs in any of the Reaver Woods maps. They're a super common enemy so you shouldn't have to do any kind of resetting.
You probably get one hit in hollow😅
If you mess up parry timing hollow definitely hurts. A few hp echos solves that though