In my honest opinion I believe Tatara deserves a full revert. Not only is it now barely meta, but its also extremely unenjoyable even for casual play. Tatara is meant to be a PvP wep, not some garbage you would use for server wars purely.
The old e sucks compared to this new one , the new r is very good too, the only thing that i dont like about the new tatara is the F being bad in general
@@Zierar nah before the flames slowly closed in leaving no room for just stay still in its blind spot but after the fixed flame nerf u can just stay inside it’s ring until ur forced out
@@cringezosupremacy th-cam.com/video/rk-X-JY8aXU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Typeable at 25s, there was an hole to stay in, ofc it was smaller but the the AOE is way bigger now
Revert old tatara or give it new moves / update old moves. Making a bodybuilder looking kagune ranged, giving it only melee to "Run and gun" is weird and doesnt suit it at all. Also, a "late game kagune" with RC requirement of 7.5 mil deserves a C skill.
They should probably revert F and bring back C and also do something with the god damn R because the damage is inferior comparing to how vulnerable you are when using it
"New tatara" F Cd is rlly short (2,5 if i remember) and deal a lot of dmg + the size of the AOE is stupid. Imo the best way to use it is passive with E/R and to run with ejector/F A rlly good video
Man, old TataraK1 was so fun to use, I remember eating 2 to 3v1s for breakfast while I was a TANK. 1v1s were fun too, everyone had fun. I wish Alex didn't rework it or at least added a version that Is a different stage, but had the reworked stuff. I would love it if I had old TataraK1 back.
hell naw the rework aint good I’m not saying it’s bad but bro all of us know that the old tat was better, flame effects were awesome we would had our default colors instead of white pants and overall it was just better. I also felt like the old tat was way more combative and useable.
From my experience I also feel like that Old Tatara is more combative and useable than the current Tatara. I do agree with the white robe / pants sometimes not fitting with our colors.
new tatara is so ass, it's supposed to be an endgame meta kagune but the update made it so bad that it unplayable, instead of alex reworking all of ken's stages that noone really cares about he should work on tatara and balance changes.
Fr this game was so good but now it's slowly dying. I remember when they put they new map on eveyone was gassed and excited about new kagunes, now the reworks and hackers ruin it
it would be op if they kept the F and only revamped the E and R, tatara would be op as hell cause he can damage people with his F and also deal more damage when they are inside the ring of fire when using R
the new one is better, cause you dont have any type of stun or knockback after landing it, meaning that if your opponent was a good melee fighter, youd get punished. and the new F you need to know how to use/learn its timing and range.
It's funny cause the current Tatara does more damage than the old Tatara if you stay in the flames (even for a short period of time). If Old Tatara were added back into the game, it'd rely a lot on the F move because E and R only aren't enough to kill any player on the CCG team due to quinx spam. I think it's slightly worse because of how easily you can get punished for using any move on current Tatara.
I personally think tatara deserved a C move which can protect it self from heavy stun weapons like ginkui or reaper Like just make no sense it a end game weapon and not have C move The other issue with self defend move for tatara in every war tatara get targeted by the whole enermy swat cuz tatara is anoying and not let they heal during war so tatara usually the first one to dies in war
this was my idea for a c move: After a 0.25 second windup, enter a counter stance for 1.5 seconds, if you are hit by a melee stun/grab in this window, slam the enemy into the ground, stunning for 1 second + high damage. pressing this ability again, or after the timer elapses will end the stance, dealing medium damage to any enemy hit. after using this ability, your next E or R cast will deal 33% more damage, including DOT. Medium-Long cooldown. the range on recast would be relatively short.
@@yououttapocket cool but there are alot of issue there 1) kinda look like F move too much 2) 0.25 wind up is too op 3) C move should be a move that could give dash attack like rush forward where ur WASD head to while untargetable and leave fire trail behide seem better choice for C move (3.5 sec cool down)
@@sanic1st it would be obvious it's not the F move because you don't move during it. the problem with a rush attack is it doesn't solve his current issues. Untargetability is the worst thing you can give any character in any game, horrible design. we could nerf the windup time easily
Cur tata: good design big skill hitbox terrible at pvp you could get outclasses easily Old tata: decent design (cur is better) small hitbox for E & R (but old R dmg is better) Good 4 pvp as the f's with a combination of ejector helps alot can counter other users, (can also be countered)
i think current tatara still good since there's ejector countering ginkui's kinda taugh ik because there's still a chances one way to escape those plenty full combos it has to be dash back then F G dashing back with F it's kinda different just gonna say it's quicker than the normal doing dashing forward with F believe me or not others already saw that idk maybe a bug speed or somethin'
Pederista on YT i know this guy if he's your friend say hello to him from Shadow. Also for me old tatara was better too i liked the F and C move mostly
That would be hard for me because Owl is a very complicated Quinque. Maybe I can talk about how it was gutted and nerfed and if Owl should get an update.
I think Tatara's F is a joke. It's the only poop mouv he has but i think he would probably be a good kagune in duel and teamfight aswell if it has a new F
Tatara update was one of the worst sushi has ever made, gave the hability to crash servers with the amount of lag, the F is worse and apply an permanent white pants was horrible too IMO - Sushi is destroying roghoul, 2020 roghoul > 2021-2022+ roghoul
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petition to revert the F and C but keep the current fire effects
@@weiss7526 lol
Ye new tatara is trash because of the new f
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In my honest opinion I believe Tatara deserves a full revert. Not only is it now barely meta, but its also extremely unenjoyable even for casual play. Tatara is meant to be a PvP wep, not some garbage you would use for server wars purely.
average kai W
his only W though
😂
The old e sucks compared to this new one , the new r is very good too, the only thing that i dont like about the new tatara is the F being bad in general
New Tatara actually had an indirect nerf on R after the lag was fixed since before the R flames actually closed in instead of being fixed flames
Pretty sure Sushi slightly increased the R size when he did that, so wasn’t really a nerf
@@Zierar nah before the flames slowly closed in leaving no room for just stay still in its blind spot but after the fixed flame nerf u can just stay inside it’s ring until ur forced out
@@cringezosupremacy Tbh you got a good point, maybe if the blind spot was removed then the current Tatara would be a lot better in wars
@@cringezosupremacy th-cam.com/video/rk-X-JY8aXU/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=Typeable at 25s, there was an hole to stay in, ofc it was smaller but the the AOE is way bigger now
this this !
Revert old tatara or give it new moves / update old moves. Making a bodybuilder looking kagune ranged, giving it only melee to "Run and gun" is weird and doesnt suit it at all. Also, a "late game kagune" with RC requirement of 7.5 mil deserves a C skill.
average ikea W
Cope ikea
I hate the New and love the old, He just could rework/nerf some parts of the kit, than giving us this piece of shlt
Old rg was better by far lmao new weps nowadays sucks like reaper lycan kakujira
The thing about the old Tatara is when you counter a close range like ginkui or naru.... you can just use f skill and ejector and your good to go
They should probably revert F and bring back C and also do something with the god damn R because the damage is inferior comparing to how vulnerable you are when using it
Same i also think the same
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"Reworked" into something unworkable, Tat deserved better.
"New tatara" F Cd is rlly short (2,5 if i remember) and deal a lot of dmg + the size of the AOE is stupid. Imo the best way to use it is passive with E/R and to run with ejector/F
A rlly good video
Man, old TataraK1 was so fun to use, I remember eating 2 to 3v1s for breakfast while I was a TANK. 1v1s were fun too, everyone had fun. I wish Alex didn't rework it or at least added a version that Is a different stage, but had the reworked stuff. I would love it if I had old TataraK1 back.
I was waiting for this vid 🔱👑 I quit rg but I enjoyed vid
hell naw the rework aint good I’m not saying it’s bad but bro all of us know that the old tat was better, flame effects were awesome we would had our default colors instead of white pants and overall it was just better. I also felt like the old tat was way more combative and useable.
From my experience I also feel like that Old Tatara is more combative and useable than the current Tatara. I do agree with the white robe / pants sometimes not fitting with our colors.
OG Tat 📈📈📈📈
Yeah those times
new tatara is so ass, it's supposed to be an endgame meta kagune but the update made it so bad that it unplayable, instead of alex reworking all of ken's stages that noone really cares about he should work on tatara and balance changes.
I miss the old times of this game, the old tatara was so good...
Fr this game was so good but now it's slowly dying. I remember when they put they new map on eveyone was gassed and excited about new kagunes, now the reworks and hackers ruin it
4:43 i completely forgot that i thought it was just hugging and the r just enraging
Forget about what i said about the r its just nostalgic haha we call it enrage
LOL
I quit this game cause I was a tatara main and the new tatara is completely garbage compared to the other one it's not even fun to use it
Bro how i miss old tatara, I was such a try hard at this way back
Tatarak1 old (awsom) vs Tatarak1 rework (garbich)
it would be op if they kept the F and only revamped the E and R, tatara would be op as hell cause he can damage people with his F and also deal more damage when they are inside the ring of fire when using R
Old tatara’s F was best. It would be good if the New tat had it but with more long distance.
the new one is better, cause you dont have any type of stun or knockback after landing it, meaning that if your opponent was a good melee fighter, youd get punished. and the new F you need to know how to use/learn its timing and range.
For me Old tatara is more realistic than the New one
i miss the old tatara, very cool and my first "expensive" kagune with 750 lvl, good times
The F now becomes a smash move because the old one is really hard to aim
Yeah the new one just made it worst next to the removal of the passive self ignition(C move)
Did old tatara also have unbreakable 65% damage reduction block or im just tripping?
IIRC it was around 75-85% DR + unbreakable. Very broken.
I just miss the old f r combo the new e move now is cool and bring back the c tho bc anime accurate...
the flames doing less damage and not refreshing when they touch fire is another reason why current tatara is "slightly" worse than old
It's funny cause the current Tatara does more damage than the old Tatara if you stay in the flames (even for a short period of time). If Old Tatara were added back into the game, it'd rely a lot on the F move because E and R only aren't enough to kill any player on the CCG team due to quinx spam. I think it's slightly worse because of how easily you can get punished for using any move on current Tatara.
the flames on the current one scale so much better with ur kagune stats but unfortunately relying on dot is very bad if u dont have a helper
1:49 "YOU'RE AN APE"
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The Reinforcers supremacy
Old one the best W
Factual
Common W for zierar
I personally think tatara deserved a C move which can protect it self from heavy stun weapons like ginkui or reaper
Like just make no sense it a end game weapon and not have C move
The other issue with self defend move for tatara in every war tatara get targeted by the whole enermy swat cuz tatara is anoying and not let they heal during war so tatara usually the first one to dies in war
this was my idea for a c move:
After a 0.25 second windup, enter a counter stance for 1.5 seconds, if you are hit by a melee stun/grab in this window, slam the enemy into the ground, stunning for 1 second + high damage. pressing this ability again, or after the timer elapses will end the stance, dealing medium damage to any enemy hit. after using this ability, your next E or R cast will deal 33% more damage, including DOT. Medium-Long cooldown.
the range on recast would be relatively short.
@@yououttapocket cool but there are alot of issue there
1) kinda look like F move too much
2) 0.25 wind up is too op
3) C move should be a move that could give dash attack like rush forward where ur WASD head to while untargetable and leave fire trail behide seem better choice for C move (3.5 sec cool down)
@@sanic1st it would be obvious it's not the F move because you don't move during it. the problem with a rush attack is it doesn't solve his current issues. Untargetability is the worst thing you can give any character in any game, horrible design. we could nerf the windup time easily
Old is better than new
give us the colored robes back
Kakuja battles is so cool man
Is like pokemo-
old tata is more good in my experience, i love it
Facts
Miss old tatara
I was about to get tatara but then realized they reworked it and was like nah
Cur tata: good design big skill hitbox terrible at pvp you could get outclasses easily
Old tata: decent design (cur is better) small hitbox for E & R (but old R dmg is better) Good 4 pvp as the f's with a combination of ejector helps alot can counter other users, (can also be countered)
there wasnt even any need to rework tatara it was good imo
i think current tatara still good since there's ejector countering ginkui's kinda taugh ik because there's still a chances one way to escape those plenty full combos it
has to be dash back then F G
dashing back with F it's kinda different just gonna say it's quicker than the normal doing dashing forward with F
believe me or not others already saw that idk maybe a bug speed or somethin'
do this for owl and ixa since ik a lot of people we're divided the same way when they both were reworked/nerfed
I'm planning to do an IXA review in the future
@@Zierar btw is ixa mode 1 got nerf because the F skills like strait up?
Bro uploaded after 600k years nah im joking bro straight up bullied me when i was on naru 😭
straight up removing a good ability and not giving a low dps high AOE kakuja at least a high damage grab was definitely... a choice..
I actually like old fire more, it looks better
Pederista on YT i know this guy if he's your friend say hello to him from Shadow.
Also for me old tatara was better too i liked the F and C move mostly
no shot ikea was ina vid??
Can you make a video about sss owl next?
That would be hard for me because Owl is a very complicated Quinque. Maybe I can talk about how it was gutted and nerfed and if Owl should get an update.
@@Zierar That's what i meant ty
I like having 3 tataras just spamming E
We love lagging servers with Tatara
I always said it and I always will say it, the old tatara was better
Old tatara f is so damm good I wanna use that rn
all it needs is the old f, the c is not needed
The rework is okay which my brother always still maining it.
Edit: i think current tatara way passive rn
Yah i could say that Tatarak1 before is better i want a revert
I think Tatara's F is a joke. It's the only poop mouv he has but i think he would probably be a good kagune in duel and teamfight aswell if it has a new F
TATARA ENJOYER🗿
era lo mismo que un taki y ahora el taki nunca lo nerfean
what music did you use in the background?
old better F and C better
13:00 name musica bro ?
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@@Zierar nice bro
im still waiting for the ayato
So glad all the Tatara players are salty about this
is that really a rogue?
New tatara range op ;-;
Tatara fried my pc
He should just add tatak2 and make it the old tatara
i miss old tatara
Pls alex change tatara's F
breh all they should of done was just fix the leg and damage tat would be cool
EVERYONE F IN THE COMMENTS HERE IF YOU MISS THE OLD TATARA!!!
F
Tatara update was one of the worst sushi has ever made, gave the hability to crash servers with the amount of lag, the F is worse and apply an permanent white pants was horrible too
IMO - Sushi is destroying roghoul, 2020 roghoul > 2021-2022+ roghoul
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Old tatara was the best kagune for 1v2 1v3 but after rework tatara become trash. slowly, without damage trash
How did you use old tatara
Until now the C still empty😑
Only good moves of current tat is e and r thats all ya got rn it isnt worth 150 yen at all more like 1 million yen
I want back old tatara this rework is kinda Bad :/
Nice vid
Old tatara solos
I SAW ME!!!!
who u
ven lets talk about food
i saw me too, very swag
@@Zierar big bad naru user how about you
@@vik9654 ok
I mean alex has fucked up his game the most fuck up for me us godzilla and tat rework
tatara users when they cant run 3 laps around the map and then just turn around and press F to win:
old tatara just claps 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
bad rework, should've reworked something more intense, like T-Human
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LnTro
I USED TO DAMN MAIN OLD TATARA NOW ITS TRASH AF
Nah retatara is suck than before (true)
Goofy ahh rework
Nooo
Nope
2023 tatara is just garbage
Trash rework
Didn’t the circle of flames close in at some point? (Or I’m I remembering it wrong)
It did but they nerfed it as well even though Tatara is unfun and trash. Alex doesn't know how to balance and rework stuff some of the time.