Been playing Nikke for almost a year, thanks to your recommendations Vee. Didnt miss a day of logging in since. And whilst most... hell, all events have been enjoyable, this Cinderella event became my absolute favorite up until now. (Havent watched back a lot of past events still, so might have missed some gems, I'll get to them eventually.) Idk which voice actress you praised. Some people are really adamant about the japanese ones to the point they hated on the english VA for CInderella. But I play with english voice and I just fell in love with her english VA. She delivers her lines... beautifully.
Isn't that pretty much how Anime is in general? Fanservice is a bonus, while the story is being good. That's why I play gacha games now, most of them know how to tell a story with fanservice on top. Currently playing Counterside and Aether Gazer, both also have fanservice a really good story. GFL2 is launching soon too, and it applies to it as well.
Lizzo isn't necessarily unattractive. But her personality is the reason everyone hates her. As a dude who likes large girls, I'd nail her if she wasn't weird and insufferable.
@@eternalvibe9083 Let's be real. No one hates people for simply being fat. We hate people because their character dictates we must because they're insufferable.
Not exactly. Even if Traash was hot, she would still be an insufferable and narcissistic overgrown child. She would look good, but looks can only take you so far. An ugly character can work. It needs good writing to compensate the lack of looks, be interesting and relatable. Still, it's better for the character to be good looking to be more appealing, but it can work. The problem with voke characters is that they are ugly both inside and outside, and the story trying to paint them as virtuous is beyond insulting.
There are literally other Gacha games that provide more goon content than Nikke *(Snowbreak, Azur Lane, Echocalypse, & Brown Dust 2)* The story is what took the spotlight
Nope since they can be hacked, they are more like _"Androids with personality copy of a real person uploaded to the body of the robot"_ They are closer to Androids with personalities than they are closer to Robocop-styled Cyborgs
I was going to say this. using their terms can be off-putting, but everyone knows Robocop. War-time Robocop. "Why do they have boobs and butts?" You tell me OCP WOULDN'T make them sexy super-soldiers for PR reasons.
Just the description alone reminds me what a tragic character truly is like. Compare this to most woke shows where we are meant to feel sorry for a character who does horrible things without properly building it up. They have to be forgiven because they're so secretly sad inside even if they commit heinous acts towards their "friends" for selfish reasons. And not once will we see them try to fix it and stay consistent - like doing only one good thing before reverting to treating everyone else like trash.
Most woke shows would make a character like Red Shoes the tragic heroine despite the truly horrible acts she did to the rest of the Old Tales crew. ...and somehow write Abe and Cinderella to be the villains.
The mass produced Nikes weren’t failures. They were just that, “mass produced” The unique Nikes you see in the story are unique with higher specs than the average mass production. the fairytale models in the early years are all prototypes with the greatest amounts of production put into them. Sort of like a strike force.
There is a lore file in the first campaigns which does say that the success rate for a nikke is very low. And out of those few successes you end up with a mass produced nikke.
And even some of the mass produced Nikkes can "recover" from the operation of becoming a Nikke, as Ave (That's what her name is in the correct translation, no idea what happened with the translation of the text, as Siren is named "Little Mermaid" in the text) retained all her memories as well, but is a mass produced Nikke.
I know it's a nitpick but I want to stress that once she turned she shattered her friend's, Siren's, jaw twice. It was so brutal that she was terrified to even touch her when they met up again years later.
@@moisesezequielgutierrez In theory, you are absolutely correct. In practice, it just didn't make me feel like following it. It's not being "unable to handle". It's that it made me disinterested.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo that and they follow the Re:Zero method of giving the supportive girl amnesia and a fake killing off so they can boost the bland mysterious waif with the personality that makes Plank from Ed Edd & Eddy an emotionally investive character in comparison
I mean...kinda? There's still no end in sight to them and the enemy kill count shown in the Second Anniversary has the infinity simbol with the caption "remaining Raptures" Besides in the gameplay there's Raptures who can literally teleport, along with other Rapture facilities on Earth...
@@oldstyle5114 There is an end to the hard mode where it shows how Ave became Grave, and in it she rediscovers the lab. She manages to find the screen she built, and becomes shocked to discover that it doesn't say infinity anymore.
@@oldstyle5114 If you complete the hardmode, you can go back to that screen and a new option appears.THe infinity symbol gets replaced with an actual count- they started at around a billion, and have lost millions. Retaking the surface isn't a pipedream. It won't be easy by any stretch, but it's actually *feasible*.
Wish I was beautiful/handsome whatever. It's no wonder my pleas go unanswered.. You ever think heroes can fail and give up? Well... They wouldn't be called heroes now would they
Nikke has alot of fanservice but also some of the most wholesome and deeply meaningful character stories I've seen in what is ostensibly a gatcha game I can play on PC and not just mobile, one of the more memorable character stories I remember was Privaty's and her struggle to relate and fit in with her human co workers who don't know shes a Nikke and how humans in the Ark don't view Nikkes as anything other then tools or weapons(which I mean they are) and the dehumanization of what is essentially a human brain in a semi-immortal weapon body.
I could take all of that more seriously if some of them weren't also chibi police officers, highly popular bunny girls, and pop idol singers. Hell, the story tries to claim, multiple times, that nikkes weigh like, a ton, yet three of them can climb into the commander's bed, and not break it. A nit pick, I know, but the thematic consistency of this game is about as stable as a dust ball in a tornado.
@@GamePlayuh9510So you seem to be missing some key things that lead to you believing what you mentioned as inconsistencies so to answer them quickly, here's what I remember from my knowledge: 1. The pop star and bunny girl nikke are literally from a entertainment company, they are combat capable but their main focus is entertainment. 2. The chibi police officer I think you're mentioning is Poli, and there is nothing ridiculous in her design, she might be small but she is literally a cyborg stronger than any criminal that isn't also a nikke. 3. Nikkes can switch bodies and they have non-combat bodies that weight like normal humans (to allow things like swimming for the Aegis squad and Rosanna's summer alt). 4. Nikkes aren't around a ton but they are heavy, the MC has literally picked up and carried nikkes before so they aren't anywhere near a ton (MC is relatively tall, very toned with a good bit of muscle so his strength is well above average but he is human).
@Josh10Force I've never heard of the switching bodies thing. Not once have I ever seen an indication of them having secondary bodies. Well, aside from the "tactical" upgraded bodies recently for Absolute, but that's two different combat bodies. I've never heard of them having casual bodies though. The reason why I mention the bunny twins, Poli, etc. isn't that I think they're ineffective at what they do. It's that when you have a society that supposedly views nikkes as disposable tools, and even has fear of them being loose cannons (like in the Hero chapter with Matis squad) why would they put up with them being law enforcement, or like them enough to fawn over them as dancers or singers? The story constantly tries to project that nikkes are discriminated against, practically hated by the society around them for anything besides fighting raptures. But they're police officers, ero dancers, pop singers, librarians, personal trainers, business owners, mechanics, government employees, hackers, cafe and toy shop owners, etc. They're involved in so many aspects of basic human life in the arc, but also heavily discriminated against? They're not treated like humans, despite their bodies being designed explicitly to resemble humans? Yeah, the world building is a little inconsistent, in my opinion. Not saying it needs to make _perfect_ sense. Like I don't really care about the weight thing. My biggest gripe is that you can't say nikkes are treated like subhuman, monster-esque fighting machines, while they're also quite comfortably operating normal human infrastructure on every street corner. It's like trying to take two extremes and make sense of their simultaneous existence.
@@GamePlayuh9510 Well these two "extremes" can exist because one isn't an extreme. The only nikke in the ark we've seen get treated in really high regard are the pop stars and Matis. Matis are seen as heroes for how effective they are and that only came into question post-corruption which we then restored anyway. Aria, Noise and Volume are musical stars, while Ruppee, Yan and Dolla are owners of large businesses that serve a lot of people (and I don't remember if they've stated that people know they're nikkes considering in chapter 15 it's not stated that they recorded themselves fighting but the counters). Rumani is another business owner who is a personal trainer but she still gets backlash and criticism for being a nikke shown in her bond story, while the 777 squad are the main staff of the largest casino so their popularity and favorability is guaranteed. ACPU and Mighty Tools are essential parts of society and them being staffed partly by nikke wouldn't be looked down upon due to how much work they do for the Ark. Exia and any other governmental workers wouldn't have as much stigma due to their proximity to the government meaning they HAVE to be less dangerous to people and only 1 government worker is known to be a nikke (Privaty's squadmates know but not the general force she works with). Now for the 2 cafes and the toy shop, only 1 cafe serves people mainly and thats the maid cafe (maids = popular, simple) while cafe sweety is for nikke (commander is one of the few humans to go there), and the toy shop is in the outpost which is where the nikke we bring with us stay (no humans essentially). If you take a look at inherit you can see even more of it as they all left the ark due to mistreatment (even as specialized nikke), it was so bad with Isabel she became a yandere for the first person to show her actual affection. When you really look at it this is a rather small subset of nikke in the grand scheme of the game because we have no idea how many mass produced nikke are made every year, but we do know that being a specialized or unique nikke like the playable SR and SSR characters is a small minority of nikke. Most nikke are mass produced nikke who have little will of their own and get sent out on essentially suicide missions with terrible, ill-prepared commanders and die in untold numbers or get treated like shit in the ark and potentially get smuggled and forced into illegal activities in the outer rim. And on the designed to look like humans thing, that's not a choice of the people making them. The bodies are made to look like the nikke's ideal self only if they have the willpower to do so, if they can't they will become a mass produced model. The design for our unique nikke is meant to provide mental stability as to make sure their brains don't resist the body and have a mind switch or become catatonic. For example, Eunhwa is a sniper and a very logical person, so she doesn't have large boobs to lay prone easier (which leads to her being self-conscious when people taunt her flatness, unintended consequence). There are lore pickups that explain why the nikke body looks the way it does now and how and what went wrong with previous models.
@Josh10Force Bro, it doesn't make sense. Quit trying. It's a horny bait game, and they got twisted up trying to make a grim-dark post apocalyptic world, somehow work with 98% of the cast looking like they're on their way to a casting couch. They wanted to write a compelling story, while simultaneously giving the player the typical Gacha harem experience, and it just doesn't mesh together well.
Tried it for the jiggle, stuck around out of respect for Marian, got full-blown addicted because the story just got better and better. And this event was completely peak. Felt all the feels. Actually one of the top games I've ever played.
Thats how all the good gachas go. But they often kind of burn out after a while, because they have to keep going for the grift, even if they cant come up with good story anymore. And the world also cant change that much, because it breaks the consistency and the game out of the game world. Cant deploy dead characters, Cant reclaim anything on the surface, because the whole main system around the ark doesnt make any more sense then. Etc.
@@mathis8210 The most recent story arc is litterally about relcaiming a surface plot. Which i believe was ultimately succesful? Mind you, it's only a small plot. and not nearly secure enough to want to start bringing civilians up, but still.
I will always hold to the opinion that it's a good story, with a crap game attached. There's more reading than shooting, and the shooting isn't that good.
@@mathis8210 Well, you can't drag the audience along forever, and the actual gameplay isn't nearly interesting enough to carry the experience (though the In The Mirror minigame was a pretty good distraction) for years on end.
That feeling when you enjoy a story so much that you recant the story as you remember it and tie it to current events in a way that makes sense. I have been playing the game for 2 years and am finally caught up on the story chapters.
I tried Nikke months ago but only did a chapter in the main campaign before going to play other things. I actually picked it up again recently because you would mention it now and then in your videos and I became curious. I completed the Cinderella story a few days ago and agree that the story is good as is the voice acting. I was also impressed with the fun metroid-lite minigame that came with this particular event. The minigame is surprisingly lengthy considering it's just there to tie into this particular story event. I've now put in quite a few hours into the game and its story and am having fun with it. all without the need to spend a dime on it.
I recall one of my old attempts at writing a novel back in my college years. In one of my drafts, there was a story about a main character who nearly was killed in a terrorist attack and got turned into a biometal being, in a world setting that's much like Ghost in the Shell or Cyberpunk. The citizenry of this world are torn between admiration and fear of cyborgs and androids. Not only because they are capable of doing great harm (like the terrorists or body-jackers), but also because they need the technology's benefits on their daily lives. In this world, the main character basically got reborn into the first cybernetic being that is also capable of reproducing like a natural human being because of his unique biometal composition. Think of it as a person capable of connecting and browsing the internet, using programs and applications, but all in his mind without any need for hardware or software. Kinda like Wolverine, where the body seems human at first glance, but the stuff composing the cells and organs, etc. are all living biometal. The story wasn't much fleshed out past that due to real life stuff I had to deal with. But the idea for the setting was that the main character would be forced into a paramilitary agent position as cover, where he has to take on missions for his agency, which basically serves to allow the people to research what he has become by chance. At the same time, this leads to the character encountering connections to the terrorists that caused the entire thing in the first place. There's also the drama where the main character has to face reality where they're not just an ordinary human anymore, and not even a cyborg or android. And close people mustn't find out about this new identity, or else even greater fear towards the main character will spread throughout humanity at this new unknown being of great powers and capabilities. At some point, the main character (who's kind of aloof and cynical or "realist" in a personality sense) talks to one of the cast who's the scientist responsible for turning them into this biometal being by accident. The topic was about wars, and heroes, and about humanity in relation to both. About how the main character can use his superhuman abilities to become a hero so he doesn't get feared by humanity. He says, "You can't become a hero, no matter how hard you try. That's because it's other people who get to decide whether or not they'll see you as a hero to be admired, or a monster to be feared. There will always be that one person who will see you as either one of the two. After that, it's just tribalism at play. In reality, you have a better chance at being hailed as a hero once you're already dead. But at that point, you're no different from a monster who also got written down on the history books...Just another page of human history. The worst part is, you can't control the way other people see you. You can only hope and pray they see you as what you want them to see you as. In my case, I just want to be seen as a human being again...as one of the faceless crowd..."
Hey Vee long time viewer here. You were the last person to give me a reason to get into Nikke. The main storyline reminds me of a combination of Claymore and Gurren Lagann. Youve prob seen at least TTGL. Red Hood is Yoko as Im sure you can see. Love all your content.
There's quite a few references as far as I can tell in Nikke. Red Hood's obviously inspired off of Yoko from Gurren Lagann (one of very few animes I've actually watched in full funnily enough), Grave's effectively carrying around an L-Star from Titanfall 2 (or at least it instantly reminded me of the L-Star when I saw the cooldown/reload animation), and so on. It's actually a good thing as far as I'm concerned because it means that Shift Up knows their stuff and they're genuinely passionate about what they're making with Nikke.
Nikke is an amazing story and it’s a shame that some people not only refuse to play it but also actively hate it just because the woman are attractive.
Some people I know just don't believe the game has anymore depth beyond the "plot", so they refuse. I don't blame them, as games like it often run off the inertia of fan service, but I don't know how to recommend this game without them thinking I'm a gooner only.
@@eternalvibe9083 It mostly does run off the fan service inertia. The story is good, but not "sacrifice months/years of your life and cash out of your wallet" good. Nobody who praises this game, ever praises it for the gameplay. And that's mostly because it's a visual novel with a rail shooter on the side. If the story is the only noteworthy part of the experience, then I'd recommend just watching youtube videos of the story from other people playing the game.
Just gonna expand on the lore a bit more, as Vee is more a casual player I think. More than supersoldiers, they would be turned into something closer to a cyborg. But like 95% machine. Only the brain is human. But oddly enough, no one considers Nikkes humans. Not even Nikkes themselves think that they are human anymore despite having an entire human brain in there. To expand further on dudes not being able to turn into Nikkes, men would be too violent. That's the in game explanation. The IRL explanation is waifus. But back to in game, there seems to be a certain amount of machine men can be. Andersen in on some sort of Life Support. People suspect he's older than he looks. Johan also has a mecha arm, enough to explode some small raptures. He's also noted to look younger than he actually is. The commander you play as, due to a broken leg that happened in the campaign, has an exoskeleton for that limb. So, at least to me, these dudes are suspiciously close to being like Nikke, cyborgs. Think of Mind Switch as basically an explosion of PTSD. The characters basically either lose all hope and sanity and fall off the deep end like a mercenary in Darkest Dungeon OR they become stronger for it. Dorothy is an example of the former, vowing revenge on the Ark, that held the remaining humans that betrayed her. Snow White is an example of the latter, she fought on because SHE IS A GODDESS OF VICTORY. 100% true. During the Anniversary events, you stop gooning. Overzone, Red Ash, Last Kingdom, Old Tales. You focus on the story. You're invested in the lore of the past and present. Hoping for a better future. It absolutely slaps. Heck, if you push hard campaign like me, you have to really pay attention to the mechanics since you're always playing at a combat power deficit. Last Note: DAAAAAAAAMN YOOOUUUU REEEED SHOOOOEEEESSSS!!!!!
Vee, thanks to you and your video about recommending Nikke, I started playing it. I cannot emphasis enough about how your advice has helped me. I guess you could say, I'm a fan. Of both you and Nikke.
I got Nikke before it came out and am still playing it. Spent about $100 after 2 years and I'll gladly keep playing it because of the characters and the actually good story. PS: Diesel all the way!!!
Old tales is great but overzone is still my favorite the portrayal of PTSD and the faith of the goddess squad fighting an unwinnable battle and basically being sacrificed for the safety of the ark
Meritorious people show their skill and grow brands, then the festering college educated jerks show up to take a host of the greatness made by others and puppeteer it.
Yeah, they keep droning on and shit as if they don’t want the audience old and new to be stupid instead of letting them figure it out themselves. Cuz ‘thinking is evil’ or shit.
Speaking generally, outside of the game's context: A narcissist would never even suggest such a thing as: "I'm not beautiful anymore. I'm a monster." because a narcissist always needs to be the most beautiful, and never wrong. To those who deal with narcissists and are harboring fantasies about changing them, "fixing" them, or saving them; If you dream that someday they'll come to this sort of self-aware realization which should in theory spark a fundamental change within, then you have to accept the fact that this moment will never come. On rare occasion it only happens on their deathbed. You have to accept that you can't and won't "save" them. No person can. And depending on the level of their disorder they just may end up exploiting this hope of yours to drag you even further into their demented games. They can feign short-term change only to keep you stringed along, then continue to feed on you and continue to waste your life.
you're right. But the idea of having a narcisist say this shows just how traumatized by the events she actually was. They were enough to get her to admit that she doesn't see herself when looking in the mirror because of the atrocities she created. Also the line is delivered very beautifully by the voice actress. I'm not beautifull anymore...
It really brings into perspective of how in the right hands someone can bring about such a very beautifully immersive story can make you feel regardless what the character looks like. It's something that works so well and shows the writer knew what they were doing. This reflects so much on how sad the state people's impressions of fiction are. You have certain members of the audience who were taught to be increasingly sensitive to works of art due to either the pressure from their peers to see their point of view, or their level of tolerance is so lacking that they've become annoyed by the very sight of something. Either way, they become so resentful to pieces of art that they're willing to do whatever it takes to change or remove it. They're willing to completely judge something by what it looks like rather than give it a chance to see where it goes. At one point I can't blame them for being upset, but they are highly emotional with their feelings, but it still doesn't excuse the behavior of wanting to obliterate something because they don't like it. And then there's the agenda pushers who tell you that every piece of art needs to reflect or influence everybody's reality like no human being can handle it or the feelings of a few are more important than the whole lot. And that you have to be increasingly emotional over it like your life depends on it. The stories of these people are so forced that emotions in their works feel so artificial like they're trying to pry emotions out of you rather than let it occur naturally. That's another reason why they keep telling you to see yourself, so you can be more in touch with your emotions. That's the only thing that can rely on as they can't really tell a decent story to save their lives. And the terrifying thing about this is despite people saying they can tell the difference between fiction and reality, they express the exact opposite. And their way of rewriting a person's perception works too. For example, if I say the infamous four letter word, people in the comments section on every social media platform loses their damn minds over it regardless of context or what side of the argument you're on. People being in such a high emotional rabid state feels like it's been done on purpose. And looking at what we've been dealing with for over a decade, it really shows.
I think this part of the story is one of the best in the game, ALL the world building and character development that occurs in Overzone, RedAsh and OldTales is incredible. The question and development of the whole theme of whether or not Cinderella can still follow her dreams or not, ABSOLUTE CINEMA! (or at least what cinema should be aiming for)
While not impossible. Collaborations between Mobile Gacha games are incredibly rare due to various reasons. Mainly that they're direct competitors. Collabs do happen if they're from the same company. e.g. Mihoyo did a collab with Genshin Impact and Honkai Impact which they both own. I don't know who made GFL, google says they're a chinese company. Meanwhile Nikke's is ShiftUp, a Korean company, then published by Level Infinite (Tencent subsidiary apparently). Not sure if those two companies can reach an agreement.
Nikke is the only phone game I actually bother watching the story in. They do include a lot of emotions in their stories. The first Christmas even for example is very bittersweet, it's about a mother and her daughter who's become a Nikke.
The sad thing about woke writers is that they think they are creating “tragic villains”. Recall all the crap they did with dr strange and the multiverse and Reva in obi wan. Completely clueless and yet they playing with a handicap by making everyone ugly.
The voice acting and sounds effects are fantastic as well, it really make the brutal scenes as well as the contrast between the happier moments hit harder. Music stands out too.
I never played Nikke but you do make it sound really interesting. Aside from the gacha, a reason I never was interested in it was how someone described it to me. "So you play as this guy who leads a squad of these super powerful and insane and possibly homicidal women that can just gruesomely murder you at any second and they're also kind of a harem..." And honestly, that really doesn't appeal to me. I know a lot of women like monsters (werewolves and vampires and stuff) because looming danger is arousing, but as a guy I can safely say that it was one of the worst pitches of something ever given to me. Now though the story at least sounds really good. What an absolute hook.
For what they're trying to sell (very attractive 2D anime women), the story they came up with is great. All playable characters are super-android women so that's all you see on screen. Meanwhile, the player character (you) still has some significance not as a front line fighter but as a tactical commander who issue commands. Your character's merit is tactical and political abilities (and if you want to, romantic). The story does force your character into physical badass situations when needed, but your capabilities as a human don't exceed that of the super-androids. It's still believable.
The way the story builds up is also around "commanders". You play as one, but you slowly learn through the world building that not many survive deployment for certain reasons. Your guy is definitely not invincible and has faults, but ones that are believable and not some Gary stu who has everything go his way.
That’s…actually an interesting story, quite a dark universe while having very beautiful but vulnerable women, the only thing keeping me from trying is it’s a mobile game with not much amazing gameplay, idk I wish this was a regular game like the old days but I know those days are gone
The way they showed the corruption taking over is so chilling, her being stuck behind a "mirror" in her mind as she can clearly see what her body is doing as it literally rips her comrads apart, it's like a horrible nightmare. Nikke has such a good story
For me, this story changed my view on Cinderella completely. I used to think of her as a treacherous heretic who only wanted to kill everything but after this story, I saw that she was a forced slave to the raptures. I had sympathy for Cinderella as well as for the people affected by her actions. It made Cinderella in my eyes from a killer without cause to an enslaved killer and made me still feel contempt for her actions and sympathy for her at the same time. The story of this event was one of the best. Cheers to Nikke for its second anniversary and to many more for my fellow commanders.
Never played Nikke before but hearing all this I admit has me wanting to check this game out now. I'll admit I thought it was a fan service game. Didn't realize the story was this interesting.
Hey! I really like this! Where you would share great parts from stories or lore and then show an example of superior storytelling vs bad-writing. I definable want to see more of this, I was very entertained and actually might check this game out! 👍👍👍
The story and worldbuilding in this game is great overall and handled well for a gacha game, besides the fan-service. Been playing since launch. Very F2P friendly, but the prices for packs/gacha skins are overpriced and not worth it imo if you plan on spending money/whaling in this game. Oh, and also the OST slaps hard in this as well.
So basically the Niku got turned into a character from Get Out movie with her being awake, but not in control of her body. I think they called it "the sunken place".
I have been thinking about her obsession with mirrors and my take is that she needs to always see her reflection to make sure she's always beautiful because she's afraid of becoming Anachiro again.
People completely misunderstand Cinderella's appreciation of beauty. This appreciation has NOTHING to do with narcissism, which is something completely selfish and despicable. The beauty she admires in people and things is something purer and more elevated. Bringing it into the real world is the same kind of admiration for beauty that Roger Scruton encouraged us to have instead of the cult of ugliness promoted by progressive revolutionaries.
I had wondered about the Nikke game before but never got around to looking into it. All the lobotomies and shit would be too much for me, but at least they are putting effort into actually writing a story.
Bro what the hell? I dled Nikke whenever a month or more ago when u made a vid on it and it was interesting but I thought it was some gacha game no a game with actual interesting lore and story and well written characters. Thats actually crazy that that sounds actually good and makes me want to know more about a gacha game lol
Hmm, I could be wrong, but Cinderella being a narcissist isn't particularly on point with what she actually is. I can't put the right word in what she is though. She IS obsessed with beauty, for sure, but she is also concerned with inner beauty on top of outer one. Almost a hundred years later when she was awakened in the game's present time, (Gr)ave wore a mask to cover her disfigurement from Cinderella, yet Cindy looked at her straight and tells (Gr)ave she is as beautiful as ever. Cindy recognizes her original creator and all that Grave did for her, from creating her to protecting her all these years as she recovers in her coffin. I haven't finished the latest story yet, but based on her interaction with Anis, Cinderella's obsession with beauty goes beyond simple vanity. It gives her purpose in life, something to ideally strive for, which has a lot of weight given her history. She wants to rewrite her story, not as the monster she once was that killed millions, but a beautiful heroine that people can look up to and be inspired by.
Honestly I've been ignoring the story of Nikke because there's just so much talking and visual noise, it makes my head start to hurt after a very short time. After this, however, I might start looking into it a bit.
To think, a mobile game that have some of the most WAIFU characters has a much more interesting storyline than so called western “AAA” games… but, that’s modern western gaming.
The line is delivered very beautifully by the voice actress.
I'm not beautifull anymore...
They spared no expense,Yuki Aoi is one of the best voice actresses of our time and her talent is on full display with Cinderella.
Been playing Nikke for almost a year, thanks to your recommendations Vee. Didnt miss a day of logging in since. And whilst most... hell, all events have been enjoyable, this Cinderella event became my absolute favorite up until now. (Havent watched back a lot of past events still, so might have missed some gems, I'll get to them eventually.)
Idk which voice actress you praised. Some people are really adamant about the japanese ones to the point they hated on the english VA for CInderella. But I play with english voice and I just fell in love with her english VA. She delivers her lines... beautifully.
@@thomaskoutsogiannis3449Wait, Tanya/Madoka seiyu is Cinderella? I'm sold.
@@SOSFREAK Yep. Yuki Aoi is using her _"Lumine"-styled_ voice.
@@SOSFREAK yes
8:24 The fanservice definitely makes it better. Because as you yourself said, if Cinderella looked like Lizzo or the Traash nobody would give a damn.
Isn't that pretty much how Anime is in general? Fanservice is a bonus, while the story is being good. That's why I play gacha games now, most of them know how to tell a story with fanservice on top. Currently playing Counterside and Aether Gazer, both also have fanservice a really good story. GFL2 is launching soon too, and it applies to it as well.
Lizzo isn't necessarily unattractive.
But her personality is the reason everyone hates her.
As a dude who likes large girls, I'd nail her if she wasn't weird and insufferable.
@Ruffington_Roast Apreciate the honesty I guess
@@eternalvibe9083 Let's be real.
No one hates people for simply being fat.
We hate people because their character dictates we must because they're insufferable.
Not exactly.
Even if Traash was hot, she would still be an insufferable and narcissistic overgrown child.
She would look good, but looks can only take you so far.
An ugly character can work. It needs good writing to compensate the lack of looks, be interesting and relatable.
Still, it's better for the character to be good looking to be more appealing, but it can work.
The problem with voke characters is that they are ugly both inside and outside, and the story trying to paint them as virtuous is beyond insulting.
NIKKE: Beyond the Goon
*NIKKE: Into The Goonerverse
Gooners of Victory: NIKKE
There are literally other Gacha games that provide more goon content than Nikke
*(Snowbreak, Azur Lane, Echocalypse, & Brown Dust 2)*
The story is what took the spotlight
@@moisesezequielgutierrez I'll give you Brown Dust 2, that game literally doesn't hold back with it's fan service 😅
@@sacredpower7530 Never heard of that one and decided to look it up.
*_WELL._*
You certainly weren't lying.
The plot is everyone got turned into Robocop to survive.
That's pretty accurate.
More like Android.
Android like Eve
Nope since they can be hacked, they are more like _"Androids with personality copy of a real person uploaded to the body of the robot"_
They are closer to Androids with personalities than they are closer to Robocop-styled Cyborgs
@@moisesezequielgutierrez Robocop was hacked before. Nikke's brains are organic With cybernatic parts as well.
I was going to say this. using their terms can be off-putting, but everyone knows Robocop. War-time Robocop.
"Why do they have boobs and butts?" You tell me OCP WOULDN'T make them sexy super-soldiers for PR reasons.
The uglification of female characters is not appealing
It's brainwashing for the transgenders.
Alright, you done just saying slogans?
I mean, I don't disagree, but what does it have to do with the topic of the video?
@@matteomastrodomenico1231 Ignore this bot
@@someguy6152Vee's literally talking about why attractive characters from the east win people over opposed to the ugly ones in the west.
Just the description alone reminds me what a tragic character truly is like. Compare this to most woke shows where we are meant to feel sorry for a character who does horrible things without properly building it up. They have to be forgiven because they're so secretly sad inside even if they commit heinous acts towards their "friends" for selfish reasons. And not once will we see them try to fix it and stay consistent - like doing only one good thing before reverting to treating everyone else like trash.
Most woke shows would make a character like Red Shoes the tragic heroine despite the truly horrible acts she did to the rest of the Old Tales crew.
...and somehow write Abe and Cinderella to be the villains.
And the villains of a leftist story ends up being the more likeable characters.
The mass produced Nikes weren’t failures. They were just that, “mass produced”
The unique Nikes you see in the story are unique with higher specs than the average mass production.
the fairytale models in the early years are all prototypes with the greatest amounts of production put into them. Sort of like a strike force.
There is a lore file in the first campaigns which does say that the success rate for a nikke is very low. And out of those few successes you end up with a mass produced nikke.
And even some of the mass produced Nikkes can "recover" from the operation of becoming a Nikke, as Ave (That's what her name is in the correct translation, no idea what happened with the translation of the text, as Siren is named "Little Mermaid" in the text) retained all her memories as well, but is a mass produced Nikke.
@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes If I remember right they let her keep all her memories to continue her work.
@@Penguin77799 If that's the case, that's in the JP or KR script. The EN script clearly says it was basically a miracle she kept her memories.
@Penguin77799 unless it is about family members.
Honestly never thought Id learn actual NIKKE lore from this channel. Im happy I did
I know it's a nitpick but I want to stress that once she turned she shattered her friend's, Siren's, jaw twice. It was so brutal that she was terrified to even touch her when they met up again years later.
So apparently a game that people for the "plot" actually has plot. Who knew.
Ironically the plot kinda drove me away. Too grim for me. Not that I think it's bad. It just doesn't fit my style.
They are a bit weak when they want to technobabble, but the story is otherwise good.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo
If you can handle Berserk's story,
Nikke will be a tame calm stroll in comparison
@@moisesezequielgutierrez In theory, you are absolutely correct. In practice, it just didn't make me feel like following it. It's not being "unable to handle". It's that it made me disinterested.
@@SergioLeonardoCornejo that and they follow the Re:Zero method of giving the supportive girl amnesia and a fake killing off so they can boost the bland mysterious waif with the personality that makes Plank from Ed Edd & Eddy an emotionally investive character in comparison
0:35 The raptures are no longer infinite, Cinderella saw to that.
I mean...kinda? There's still no end in sight to them and the enemy kill count shown in the Second Anniversary has the infinity simbol with the caption "remaining Raptures"
Besides in the gameplay there's Raptures who can literally teleport, along with other Rapture facilities on Earth...
@@oldstyle5114 There is an end to the hard mode where it shows how Ave became Grave, and in it she rediscovers the lab. She manages to find the screen she built, and becomes shocked to discover that it doesn't say infinity anymore.
@@oldstyle5114 If you complete the hardmode, you can go back to that screen and a new option appears.THe infinity symbol gets replaced with an actual count- they started at around a billion, and have lost millions.
Retaking the surface isn't a pipedream. It won't be easy by any stretch, but it's actually *feasible*.
Wish I was beautiful/handsome whatever. It's no wonder my pleas go unanswered..
You ever think heroes can fail and give up? Well... They wouldn't be called heroes now would they
This hits some story beats like Halo spartan project
The prologue alone of that game is enough to give you trauma.
Here, have a bandage.
@@Stormcrow_1😢
@@augmenautus Over here.
The half anniversary story was really good to. Poor Dorothy.
She became Doro to forget the pain.
Rather than Nier androids I would compare nikke to Ghost in the shell
did not expect good writing in the jiggle physics game
Come for the gyatt, stay for the plot
@@Penguin77799 that sums it up perfectly
Nikke has alot of fanservice but also some of the most wholesome and deeply meaningful character stories I've seen in what is ostensibly a gatcha game I can play on PC and not just mobile, one of the more memorable character stories I remember was Privaty's and her struggle to relate and fit in with her human co workers who don't know shes a Nikke and how humans in the Ark don't view Nikkes as anything other then tools or weapons(which I mean they are) and the dehumanization of what is essentially a human brain in a semi-immortal weapon body.
I could take all of that more seriously if some of them weren't also chibi police officers, highly popular bunny girls, and pop idol singers.
Hell, the story tries to claim, multiple times, that nikkes weigh like, a ton, yet three of them can climb into the commander's bed, and not break it. A nit pick, I know, but the thematic consistency of this game is about as stable as a dust ball in a tornado.
@@GamePlayuh9510So you seem to be missing some key things that lead to you believing what you mentioned as inconsistencies so to answer them quickly, here's what I remember from my knowledge:
1. The pop star and bunny girl nikke are literally from a entertainment company, they are combat capable but their main focus is entertainment.
2. The chibi police officer I think you're mentioning is Poli, and there is nothing ridiculous in her design, she might be small but she is literally a cyborg stronger than any criminal that isn't also a nikke.
3. Nikkes can switch bodies and they have non-combat bodies that weight like normal humans (to allow things like swimming for the Aegis squad and Rosanna's summer alt).
4. Nikkes aren't around a ton but they are heavy, the MC has literally picked up and carried nikkes before so they aren't anywhere near a ton (MC is relatively tall, very toned with a good bit of muscle so his strength is well above average but he is human).
@Josh10Force I've never heard of the switching bodies thing. Not once have I ever seen an indication of them having secondary bodies. Well, aside from the "tactical" upgraded bodies recently for Absolute, but that's two different combat bodies. I've never heard of them having casual bodies though.
The reason why I mention the bunny twins, Poli, etc. isn't that I think they're ineffective at what they do. It's that when you have a society that supposedly views nikkes as disposable tools, and even has fear of them being loose cannons (like in the Hero chapter with Matis squad) why would they put up with them being law enforcement, or like them enough to fawn over them as dancers or singers? The story constantly tries to project that nikkes are discriminated against, practically hated by the society around them for anything besides fighting raptures. But they're police officers, ero dancers, pop singers, librarians, personal trainers, business owners, mechanics, government employees, hackers, cafe and toy shop owners, etc. They're involved in so many aspects of basic human life in the arc, but also heavily discriminated against? They're not treated like humans, despite their bodies being designed explicitly to resemble humans? Yeah, the world building is a little inconsistent, in my opinion. Not saying it needs to make _perfect_ sense. Like I don't really care about the weight thing. My biggest gripe is that you can't say nikkes are treated like subhuman, monster-esque fighting machines, while they're also quite comfortably operating normal human infrastructure on every street corner. It's like trying to take two extremes and make sense of their simultaneous existence.
@@GamePlayuh9510 Well these two "extremes" can exist because one isn't an extreme. The only nikke in the ark we've seen get treated in really high regard are the pop stars and Matis. Matis are seen as heroes for how effective they are and that only came into question post-corruption which we then restored anyway. Aria, Noise and Volume are musical stars, while Ruppee, Yan and Dolla are owners of large businesses that serve a lot of people (and I don't remember if they've stated that people know they're nikkes considering in chapter 15 it's not stated that they recorded themselves fighting but the counters). Rumani is another business owner who is a personal trainer but she still gets backlash and criticism for being a nikke shown in her bond story, while the 777 squad are the main staff of the largest casino so their popularity and favorability is guaranteed. ACPU and Mighty Tools are essential parts of society and them being staffed partly by nikke wouldn't be looked down upon due to how much work they do for the Ark. Exia and any other governmental workers wouldn't have as much stigma due to their proximity to the government meaning they HAVE to be less dangerous to people and only 1 government worker is known to be a nikke (Privaty's squadmates know but not the general force she works with). Now for the 2 cafes and the toy shop, only 1 cafe serves people mainly and thats the maid cafe (maids = popular, simple) while cafe sweety is for nikke (commander is one of the few humans to go there), and the toy shop is in the outpost which is where the nikke we bring with us stay (no humans essentially). If you take a look at inherit you can see even more of it as they all left the ark due to mistreatment (even as specialized nikke), it was so bad with Isabel she became a yandere for the first person to show her actual affection. When you really look at it this is a rather small subset of nikke in the grand scheme of the game because we have no idea how many mass produced nikke are made every year, but we do know that being a specialized or unique nikke like the playable SR and SSR characters is a small minority of nikke. Most nikke are mass produced nikke who have little will of their own and get sent out on essentially suicide missions with terrible, ill-prepared commanders and die in untold numbers or get treated like shit in the ark and potentially get smuggled and forced into illegal activities in the outer rim.
And on the designed to look like humans thing, that's not a choice of the people making them. The bodies are made to look like the nikke's ideal self only if they have the willpower to do so, if they can't they will become a mass produced model. The design for our unique nikke is meant to provide mental stability as to make sure their brains don't resist the body and have a mind switch or become catatonic. For example, Eunhwa is a sniper and a very logical person, so she doesn't have large boobs to lay prone easier (which leads to her being self-conscious when people taunt her flatness, unintended consequence). There are lore pickups that explain why the nikke body looks the way it does now and how and what went wrong with previous models.
@Josh10Force Bro, it doesn't make sense. Quit trying. It's a horny bait game, and they got twisted up trying to make a grim-dark post apocalyptic world, somehow work with 98% of the cast looking like they're on their way to a casting couch. They wanted to write a compelling story, while simultaneously giving the player the typical Gacha harem experience, and it just doesn't mesh together well.
For those unfamiliar the company that makes Nikke is the same company that made Stellar Blade.
Aite
Nikke is pretty much definition of:
I came for "plot" but I stayed for PLOT.
Tried it for the jiggle, stuck around out of respect for Marian, got full-blown addicted because the story just got better and better. And this event was completely peak. Felt all the feels. Actually one of the top games I've ever played.
Thats how all the good gachas go. But they often kind of burn out after a while, because they have to keep going for the grift, even if they cant come up with good story anymore.
And the world also cant change that much, because it breaks the consistency and the game out of the game world.
Cant deploy dead characters, Cant reclaim anything on the surface, because the whole main system around the ark doesnt make any more sense then. Etc.
@@mathis8210 The most recent story arc is litterally about relcaiming a surface plot. Which i believe was ultimately succesful?
Mind you, it's only a small plot. and not nearly secure enough to want to start bringing civilians up, but still.
I will always hold to the opinion that it's a good story, with a crap game attached. There's more reading than shooting, and the shooting isn't that good.
@@mathis8210 Well, you can't drag the audience along forever, and the actual gameplay isn't nearly interesting enough to carry the experience (though the In The Mirror minigame was a pretty good distraction) for years on end.
Limitations breed creativity
"the fan service makes it better" this is giving me bayonetta vibes and i like it.
That line...the way it's so well delivered by her voice actress...
That feeling when you enjoy a story so much that you recant the story as you remember it and tie it to current events in a way that makes sense. I have been playing the game for 2 years and am finally caught up on the story chapters.
technically speaking to enjoy the "full" experience u also have to clear hard mode too which is Hell on earth
If you are emotionally invested with the story that means the writer did a good job
I tried Nikke months ago but only did a chapter in the main campaign before going to play other things. I actually picked it up again recently because you would mention it now and then in your videos and I became curious. I completed the Cinderella story a few days ago and agree that the story is good as is the voice acting. I was also impressed with the fun metroid-lite minigame that came with this particular event. The minigame is surprisingly lengthy considering it's just there to tie into this particular story event. I've now put in quite a few hours into the game and its story and am having fun with it. all without the need to spend a dime on it.
the gameplay isn't good at all and the AI does everything for you
I know this is more focused on Cinderella, but Abe was MVP for me. Girl keeps on going no matter what.
Even dropping from earth's orbit didn't stop her. She's in the body of a mass produced nikke and survived for so long.
I recall one of my old attempts at writing a novel back in my college years. In one of my drafts, there was a story about a main character who nearly was killed in a terrorist attack and got turned into a biometal being, in a world setting that's much like Ghost in the Shell or Cyberpunk. The citizenry of this world are torn between admiration and fear of cyborgs and androids. Not only because they are capable of doing great harm (like the terrorists or body-jackers), but also because they need the technology's benefits on their daily lives.
In this world, the main character basically got reborn into the first cybernetic being that is also capable of reproducing like a natural human being because of his unique biometal composition. Think of it as a person capable of connecting and browsing the internet, using programs and applications, but all in his mind without any need for hardware or software. Kinda like Wolverine, where the body seems human at first glance, but the stuff composing the cells and organs, etc. are all living biometal.
The story wasn't much fleshed out past that due to real life stuff I had to deal with. But the idea for the setting was that the main character would be forced into a paramilitary agent position as cover, where he has to take on missions for his agency, which basically serves to allow the people to research what he has become by chance. At the same time, this leads to the character encountering connections to the terrorists that caused the entire thing in the first place. There's also the drama where the main character has to face reality where they're not just an ordinary human anymore, and not even a cyborg or android. And close people mustn't find out about this new identity, or else even greater fear towards the main character will spread throughout humanity at this new unknown being of great powers and capabilities.
At some point, the main character (who's kind of aloof and cynical or "realist" in a personality sense) talks to one of the cast who's the scientist responsible for turning them into this biometal being by accident. The topic was about wars, and heroes, and about humanity in relation to both. About how the main character can use his superhuman abilities to become a hero so he doesn't get feared by humanity.
He says, "You can't become a hero, no matter how hard you try. That's because it's other people who get to decide whether or not they'll see you as a hero to be admired, or a monster to be feared. There will always be that one person who will see you as either one of the two. After that, it's just tribalism at play. In reality, you have a better chance at being hailed as a hero once you're already dead. But at that point, you're no different from a monster who also got written down on the history books...Just another page of human history. The worst part is, you can't control the way other people see you. You can only hope and pray they see you as what you want them to see you as. In my case, I just want to be seen as a human being again...as one of the faceless crowd..."
Did you ever end up finishing your book? Or did you end throwing that story away?
Jesus christ, i had no idea the story was this interesting!
It's why this game got me heavily invested. Despite the good looking waifus. The story and/or the music is amazing.
"It's called 'hentai', and it's art."
Hey Vee long time viewer here. You were the last person to give me a reason to get into Nikke. The main storyline reminds me of a combination of Claymore and Gurren Lagann. Youve prob seen at least TTGL. Red Hood is Yoko as Im sure you can see.
Love all your content.
:D
She's like Roxanne of love and hate.
Red Hood is Kamina.
There's quite a few references as far as I can tell in Nikke. Red Hood's obviously inspired off of Yoko from Gurren Lagann (one of very few animes I've actually watched in full funnily enough), Grave's effectively carrying around an L-Star from Titanfall 2 (or at least it instantly reminded me of the L-Star when I saw the cooldown/reload animation), and so on. It's actually a good thing as far as I'm concerned because it means that Shift Up knows their stuff and they're genuinely passionate about what they're making with Nikke.
Nikke is an amazing story and it’s a shame that some people not only refuse to play it but also actively hate it just because the woman are attractive.
I think that's a good thing. The game gatekeeps itself, and we get to enjoy the characters and the story ;D
Some people I know just don't believe the game has anymore depth beyond the "plot", so they refuse. I don't blame them, as games like it often run off the inertia of fan service, but I don't know how to recommend this game without them thinking I'm a gooner only.
@@eternalvibe9083 It mostly does run off the fan service inertia. The story is good, but not "sacrifice months/years of your life and cash out of your wallet" good. Nobody who praises this game, ever praises it for the gameplay. And that's mostly because it's a visual novel with a rail shooter on the side. If the story is the only noteworthy part of the experience, then I'd recommend just watching youtube videos of the story from other people playing the game.
Blue Archive's story is also wonderful, its about responsibility and hope, create your own miracles to protect what you love.
Just gonna expand on the lore a bit more, as Vee is more a casual player I think.
More than supersoldiers, they would be turned into something closer to a cyborg. But like 95% machine. Only the brain is human. But oddly enough, no one considers Nikkes humans. Not even Nikkes themselves think that they are human anymore despite having an entire human brain in there.
To expand further on dudes not being able to turn into Nikkes, men would be too violent. That's the in game explanation. The IRL explanation is waifus. But back to in game, there seems to be a certain amount of machine men can be. Andersen in on some sort of Life Support. People suspect he's older than he looks. Johan also has a mecha arm, enough to explode some small raptures. He's also noted to look younger than he actually is. The commander you play as, due to a broken leg that happened in the campaign, has an exoskeleton for that limb. So, at least to me, these dudes are suspiciously close to being like Nikke, cyborgs.
Think of Mind Switch as basically an explosion of PTSD. The characters basically either lose all hope and sanity and fall off the deep end like a mercenary in Darkest Dungeon OR they become stronger for it. Dorothy is an example of the former, vowing revenge on the Ark, that held the remaining humans that betrayed her. Snow White is an example of the latter, she fought on because SHE IS A GODDESS OF VICTORY.
100% true. During the Anniversary events, you stop gooning. Overzone, Red Ash, Last Kingdom, Old Tales. You focus on the story. You're invested in the lore of the past and present. Hoping for a better future. It absolutely slaps. Heck, if you push hard campaign like me, you have to really pay attention to the mechanics since you're always playing at a combat power deficit.
Last Note: DAAAAAAAAMN YOOOUUUU REEEED SHOOOOEEEESSSS!!!!!
I tried because: haha rigged PNGs
I stayed becuase: PLEASE TIA I LOVE YOU BE REAL 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ok vee, im sold.
Now i just beed to figure BlueStacks.
Edit: Tanks for telling me there's a PC version, already installed it.
Its also on PC, don't have to use an emulator.
@Mae______ really?
@@XxKNIGHT742xX YUP!
Nikke has a pc app, u don't need emulator for it.
I would appreciate a followup video and the rest of her story.
Cinderella is not a monster , on the other hand , CinDOROla.....
Vee, thanks to you and your video about recommending Nikke, I started playing it.
I cannot emphasis enough about how your advice has helped me.
I guess you could say, I'm a fan. Of both you and Nikke.
Vee , who’s your favorite NIKKE ? Mines Elegg
red shoes ^_^!
@@TheTrollVtuber shes good, my second fav is hmm prob Helm
@@TheTrollVtuber in pieces.
Red sus 😊
@@TheTrollVtuber you're gettin' the side eye from now on
I got Nikke before it came out and am still playing it. Spent about $100 after 2 years and I'll gladly keep playing it because of the characters and the actually good story.
PS: Diesel all the way!!!
Glad to see another Diesel lover!
Glad someone is giving this game some attention. Game play wise, Nikke is very fair. Im F2P but I currently hold Rank 1 in arena in my group.
Yeah, Nike’s story hits you where it hurts.
Playing the game since the start and still the game surprises me with how well written it is.
Old tales is great but overzone is still my favorite the portrayal of PTSD and the faith of the goddess squad fighting an unwinnable battle and basically being sacrificed for the safety of the ark
You have passionate writers that care about they're setting and lore. You get the exact opposite with ugly characters and nonsensical dialogue.
Meritorious people show their skill and grow brands, then the festering college educated jerks show up to take a host of the greatness made by others and puppeteer it.
Yeah, they keep droning on and shit as if they don’t want the audience old and new to be stupid instead of letting them figure it out themselves. Cuz ‘thinking is evil’ or shit.
The uglyness is not only on the outside, but also within
Speaking generally, outside of the game's context: A narcissist would never even suggest such a thing as: "I'm not beautiful anymore. I'm a monster." because a narcissist always needs to be the most beautiful, and never wrong.
To those who deal with narcissists and are harboring fantasies about changing them, "fixing" them, or saving them; If you dream that someday they'll come to this sort of self-aware realization which should in theory spark a fundamental change within, then you have to accept the fact that this moment will never come. On rare occasion it only happens on their deathbed. You have to accept that you can't and won't "save" them. No person can. And depending on the level of their disorder they just may end up exploiting this hope of yours to drag you even further into their demented games. They can feign short-term change only to keep you stringed along, then continue to feed on you and continue to waste your life.
you're right. But the idea of having a narcisist say this shows just how traumatized by the events she actually was. They were enough to get her to admit that she doesn't see herself when looking in the mirror because of the atrocities she created.
Also the line is delivered very beautifully by the voice actress.
I'm not beautifull anymore...
Oswald is the GOAT
It really brings into perspective of how in the right hands someone can bring about such a very beautifully immersive story can make you feel regardless what the character looks like. It's something that works so well and shows the writer knew what they were doing.
This reflects so much on how sad the state people's impressions of fiction are. You have certain members of the audience who were taught to be increasingly sensitive to works of art due to either the pressure from their peers to see their point of view, or their level of tolerance is so lacking that they've become annoyed by the very sight of something. Either way, they become so resentful to pieces of art that they're willing to do whatever it takes to change or remove it.
They're willing to completely judge something by what it looks like rather than give it a chance to see where it goes. At one point I can't blame them for being upset, but they are highly emotional with their feelings, but it still doesn't excuse the behavior of wanting to obliterate something because they don't like it.
And then there's the agenda pushers who tell you that every piece of art needs to reflect or influence everybody's reality like no human being can handle it or the feelings of a few are more important than the whole lot. And that you have to be increasingly emotional over it like your life depends on it.
The stories of these people are so forced that emotions in their works feel so artificial like they're trying to pry emotions out of you rather than let it occur naturally. That's another reason why they keep telling you to see yourself, so you can be more in touch with your emotions. That's the only thing that can rely on as they can't really tell a decent story to save their lives.
And the terrifying thing about this is despite people saying they can tell the difference between fiction and reality, they express the exact opposite.
And their way of rewriting a person's perception works too. For example, if I say the infamous four letter word, people in the comments section on every social media platform loses their damn minds over it regardless of context or what side of the argument you're on.
People being in such a high emotional rabid state feels like it's been done on purpose. And looking at what we've been dealing with for over a decade, it really shows.
Did Vee really just retold the Old Tales arc? Talking about hitting dem 10 min
I think this part of the story is one of the best in the game, ALL the world building and character development that occurs in Overzone, RedAsh and OldTales is incredible. The question and development of the whole theme of whether or not Cinderella can still follow her dreams or not, ABSOLUTE CINEMA! (or at least what cinema should be aiming for)
Grave was done so fucking dirty bro... 😭😭😭
That is the peak anime level plot.
beautiful analysis
Girls' Frontline and Nikke really have a way with writting tragedy. Hopefully there's a collab between the franchises.
While not impossible. Collaborations between Mobile Gacha games are incredibly rare due to various reasons. Mainly that they're direct competitors. Collabs do happen if they're from the same company. e.g. Mihoyo did a collab with Genshin Impact and Honkai Impact which they both own.
I don't know who made GFL, google says they're a chinese company. Meanwhile Nikke's is ShiftUp, a Korean company, then published by Level Infinite (Tencent subsidiary apparently). Not sure if those two companies can reach an agreement.
@@randomanonymousperson3603 GFL2 had a mini-game that's pretty much Nikke mode. If anything, Mica and ShiftUp ought to be on friendly terms.
Nikke is the only phone game I actually bother watching the story in. They do include a lot of emotions in their stories. The first Christmas even for example is very bittersweet, it's about a mother and her daughter who's become a Nikke.
The sad thing about woke writers is that they think they are creating “tragic villains”.
Recall all the crap they did with dr strange and the multiverse and Reva in obi wan. Completely clueless and yet they playing with a handicap by making everyone ugly.
The voice acting and sounds effects are fantastic as well, it really make the brutal scenes as well as the contrast between the happier moments hit harder. Music stands out too.
The story was the reason why i didn't uninstall the game.
Play for the goon stay for the plot
I never played Nikke but you do make it sound really interesting. Aside from the gacha, a reason I never was interested in it was how someone described it to me. "So you play as this guy who leads a squad of these super powerful and insane and possibly homicidal women that can just gruesomely murder you at any second and they're also kind of a harem..."
And honestly, that really doesn't appeal to me. I know a lot of women like monsters (werewolves and vampires and stuff) because looming danger is arousing, but as a guy I can safely say that it was one of the worst pitches of something ever given to me. Now though the story at least sounds really good. What an absolute hook.
there needs to be a reason why the player is on the front line.
For what they're trying to sell (very attractive 2D anime women), the story they came up with is great. All playable characters are super-android women so that's all you see on screen. Meanwhile, the player character (you) still has some significance not as a front line fighter but as a tactical commander who issue commands. Your character's merit is tactical and political abilities (and if you want to, romantic). The story does force your character into physical badass situations when needed, but your capabilities as a human don't exceed that of the super-androids. It's still believable.
The way the story builds up is also around "commanders". You play as one, but you slowly learn through the world building that not many survive deployment for certain reasons. Your guy is definitely not invincible and has faults, but ones that are believable and not some Gary stu who has everything go his way.
This convinced me more than any advertisement to try this game. They should really pay you.
If the characters aren't good looking nobody is gonna care about their story in the first place.
Women can be beautiful and strong. Change my mind.
The west was able to create stories like that mere 10 years ago
That’s…actually an interesting story, quite a dark universe while having very beautiful but vulnerable women, the only thing keeping me from trying is it’s a mobile game with not much amazing gameplay, idk I wish this was a regular game like the old days but I know those days are gone
Vee / lack of entertainment becoming a lore channel?
God damn what an insane plot.
I'm going to need to deep dive this
This actually got me interested in checking out the game.
Pretty sad that Cinderella went through hell and her story is tainted, but hopefully she gets a chance at continuing her story.
The way they showed the corruption taking over is so chilling, her being stuck behind a "mirror" in her mind as she can clearly see what her body is doing as it literally rips her comrads apart, it's like a horrible nightmare.
Nikke has such a good story
Thanks for this one, Vee. It’s now on my radar and to-buy list.
its free
Oh hell.
huh. I feel like I heard this story before. Not exactly, but that whole "trapped in own body while killing friends" sounds very deja vue
For me, this story changed my view on Cinderella completely. I used to think of her as a treacherous heretic who only wanted to kill everything but after this story, I saw that she was a forced slave to the raptures. I had sympathy for Cinderella as well as for the people affected by her actions. It made Cinderella in my eyes from a killer without cause to an enslaved killer and made me still feel contempt for her actions and sympathy for her at the same time. The story of this event was one of the best. Cheers to Nikke for its second anniversary and to many more for my fellow commanders.
Great job! Definitely do a part 2.
Never played Nikke before but hearing all this I admit has me wanting to check this game out now. I'll admit I thought it was a fan service game. Didn't realize the story was this interesting.
Playing the prologue will probably hook you in
Too bad the 2nd anniversary event that is talked about in this video about to end soon
@@Carsu12 That's what I'm afraid of lol. I have trouble just managing 1 right now and it's not particularly a high maintenance game either.
This sounds like it could be a great anime equal to Elfen Lied. I would love a part 2.
Hey! I really like this! Where you would share great parts from stories or lore and then show an example of superior storytelling vs bad-writing. I definable want to see more of this, I was very entertained and actually might check this game out! 👍👍👍
God, Nikke loves it's "Little Timmy to fall into the well"
This story for the event was amazing.
That was one hell of a setup to make a point. Wow, Vee, bravo.
Korean Cinderella > Modern Disney Cinderella *(If they're ever gonna make one)*
The story and worldbuilding in this game is great overall and handled well for a gacha game, besides the fan-service. Been playing since launch. Very F2P friendly, but the prices for packs/gacha skins are overpriced and not worth it imo if you plan on spending money/whaling in this game.
Oh, and also the OST slaps hard in this as well.
I see you've watched the Old Tales Story.
Nice.
So basically the Niku got turned into a character from Get Out movie with her being awake, but not in control of her body. I think they called it "the sunken place".
I can't wait for Eve to appear in NIKKE.
If to borrow from Ghost in The Shell terminology, Nikke are full body cyborgs, not androids.
Kinda makes sense that in such a risk of psychosis.
Nikkes, all ur sacrifies will never be forgotten
That story was very interesting and well delivered. I wouldn't mind more videos about Nikke's lore at all.
It truly was a beautiful story, Cinderella.
Can't believe an Azerothian Trogg would cover and breakdown NIKKE's lore. Really made my day.
Putting out this video immediately after Cinderella becomes unavailable in game is hilarious
had to be done!
I have been thinking about her obsession with mirrors and my take is that she needs to always see her reflection to make sure she's always beautiful because she's afraid of becoming Anachiro again.
People completely misunderstand Cinderella's appreciation of beauty.
This appreciation has NOTHING to do with narcissism, which is something completely selfish and despicable.
The beauty she admires in people and things is something purer and more elevated.
Bringing it into the real world is the same kind of admiration for beauty that Roger Scruton encouraged us to have instead of the cult of ugliness promoted by progressive revolutionaries.
I want to hear your take on the full story, the betrayal, the gigachad Oswald, Abe.
I had wondered about the Nikke game before but never got around to looking into it. All the lobotomies and shit would be too much for me, but at least they are putting effort into actually writing a story.
Bro what the hell? I dled Nikke whenever a month or more ago when u made a vid on it and it was interesting but I thought it was some gacha game no a game with actual interesting lore and story and well written characters. Thats actually crazy that that sounds actually good and makes me want to know more about a gacha game lol
Hmm, I could be wrong, but Cinderella being a narcissist isn't particularly on point with what she actually is. I can't put the right word in what she is though. She IS obsessed with beauty, for sure, but she is also concerned with inner beauty on top of outer one.
Almost a hundred years later when she was awakened in the game's present time, (Gr)ave wore a mask to cover her disfigurement from Cinderella, yet Cindy looked at her straight and tells (Gr)ave she is as beautiful as ever. Cindy recognizes her original creator and all that Grave did for her, from creating her to protecting her all these years as she recovers in her coffin.
I haven't finished the latest story yet, but based on her interaction with Anis, Cinderella's obsession with beauty goes beyond simple vanity. It gives her purpose in life, something to ideally strive for, which has a lot of weight given her history. She wants to rewrite her story, not as the monster she once was that killed millions, but a beautiful heroine that people can look up to and be inspired by.
Honestly I've been ignoring the story of Nikke because there's just so much talking and visual noise, it makes my head start to hurt after a very short time. After this, however, I might start looking into it a bit.
To think, a mobile game that have some of the most WAIFU characters has a much more interesting storyline than so called western “AAA” games… but, that’s modern western gaming.