Give it a but more time and these cars will break 2021 records. Remember that 2021 cars came out of those 2014 ones. See where 2022 lap times were and where they are now. Its just half a second. They will improve
Only 2 years and we are almost back to 2021 performance. The engineers behind F1 are just incredible. No matter how much regulations try to slow these cars down they still find ways to just overcome any obstacle
@@Jojo_BeeHis braking is what he’s known for, there’s a reason he struggles more in places like Monaco where it’s more about precision than the speed carried into the corner.
I dont think the weight and nimbleness of the 2024 cars is the issue in low/medium. Its their lack of mechanical grip due to their lack of compliance. Because they run so low to the ground, they have to be extremely firmly sprung/damped, which is detrimental to your mechanical grip, because it lacks compliance. Especially on a bumpy track. Which is why newey designed the suspension himself on the RB20...
@@miguelpereira9859direct grip from visible mechanical elements on the car interacting with the track ( tyre, suspension, ) ....not the aerodynamic downforce from invisible air. Its the predominant grip in low speed corners.
it’s a great factor in proving why these 2024 cars couldn’t gain time on the super fast corners on this circuit which they usually go on other circuits. bumpy af generally these cars are heavier and have lower grip on slow corners.
Thanks again for your fantastic videos. I just want to say that F1 is catching up again with the speed of 2020-2021. Every year teams find ways to improve. Soon F1 will be setting lap records again.
F1 from about 2017-2021 saw the most technological advanced cars in its history. If costs weren't so much of an issue who knows how fast they could of got. And with the currrent track of car regulations F1 are on now, I think 2021 will remain peak for F1 car performance.
@@afallenworld1581 Nah, the RBR is the trickiest car to drive. See the ALB interview and ask Checo. The RBR is pointy as hell, with a lose rear, every true F1 fan is aware of that.
I have one question regarding the sound: The 2021 Merc sounds way different to the 2024 Merc (higher pitched) but the PU is basically the same (except for E10 in 2024). Does anybody know the reason for this?
Someone tell me how softer tyres, higher track temps, with a tow from Hulkenberg even is a worse condition. In my head, this is a perfectly better condition.
all of those are better condition except higher track temps because high temps will make the tyres overheat faster (they usually starts to overheat at the end of the lap) cooler track temps allows the tyres to stay within their operating temps much longer thus make the laptimes faster
@@stephenmiguel919 Thanks for the responses. But would degradation really degrade its performance if you're only pushing the tyres' threshold for 2 laps at most to get an official time in? As i understand, these tyres could last around 15 laps before a noticeable dip in pace. So doesn't that mean the higher track temps would even help break in the tyres to their optimal operating range?
@@josephgreen6531With Jeddah it’s not quite a direct comparison as they’ve opened the walls up in certain corners in 2024 compared to 2021 improving sightlines and apex speed The GE cars do have good high corner performance though
@@theultimatewalker1510 And it was slower than the W11 due to the floor changes of 2021. The 2020 W11 is the fastest F1 car ever built over 1 lap. By a lot.
@@theultimatewalker1510 2021 saw reg changes to weaken the mercedes after a dominant 2020. no das, no party mode, and rake changes which mde the w12 slower than the w11.
I can only say, that F1 never needed those rule changes in my opinion, at least. Besides they keep adding new, unwanted aspects and take away loved and needed features. (or think about it)Yes they wan't to save money and be more sustainable. On the other hand, they keep building new tracks - and correct me if im wrong, but this isn't naturally too eniromentally friendly. Last but not least, it's supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport and I really have to say, they're losing that place.
Ground effect is so stupid. High speed corners being even faster makes close racing more difficult and dangerous while in slow corners cars behave like cows which again makes it boring. They have so much time to think about these changes every few seasons and somehow they only succeed in making F1 worse since like 2014...
And they absolutely fall apart on bumpy tracks. And they're too wide to allow for side-by-side racing. They either need to drive different tracks that are twice as wide, or change the cars. Can't be driving these mickey-mouse tracks anymore.
@@The_Noticer. True. I think their focus on F1 being the absolutely fastest racing series just kills the racing itself. Cars must be so big to protect drivers at these speeds, which is understandable but now on some tracks where you could have 3 wide racing before, 2 cars barely fit side by side.
Just goes to show you how horrible F1 cars have come to be. Crashy only got this time with a massive tow from Hulky. Talk about going a$$-backwards into the future. It isn't enjoyable to watch, far from it - everything about F1 just gets worse, and worse, and worse...it's pure garbage now.
Sour loser, that’s what you are. Max equaled the consecutive number of pole positions Senna set long ago. 8 consecutive poles puts Max on par with the Master. And you call Max crashy? Disrespectful
Sorry that -0.335s was on the wrong side.
no problem
Upload the video again. Its so confuse
No problem
LOL
Cause in your head you’re weeping for Verstappen to be faster
Why not show Bottas' pole lap from 2020. W11 did 1.13.609 !!
I agree that comparing this year's pole lap to the outright fastest-ever lap would be even more fitting.
I think he's show that similar times from both the years vary in particular ways, showing for example the cornering speed differences.
@@TheJokerit19Bottas's 2020 Pole lap was 1.438 quicker than Verstappen's 2024 pole lap.
@@purwantiallan5089 Indeed
Why tho?
Pre 2022 cars were just monsters. I think Bottas did a 13 around here in 2020.
Also it is all about weight, pre 2022 cars where 50+ kilos lighter...
@@saaber95More responsive suspension also, Ground effect needs stiff suspension to maximize balance but loses alot on slower corners (+weight)
Hopefully they get it right on the 2026 cars and we might get some new track records even! (Probably not gonna happen)
Give it a but more time and these cars will break 2021 records. Remember that 2021 cars came out of those 2014 ones. See where 2022 lap times were and where they are now. Its just half a second. They will improve
The 2021 cars came from the 2017* era cars not 2014
Only 2 years and we are almost back to 2021 performance. The engineers behind F1 are just incredible. No matter how much regulations try to slow these cars down they still find ways to just overcome any obstacle
I am still miss memories of 2021 F1 season, the LAST EVER GREAT F1. Both in real life F1 2021 season and the F1 2021 game. 😭
The track conditions were better in 2024 and there were softer tires. But they are getting closer. I think by 2025 they will be on par if not faster
Yeah but max has the track record in jeddah, and the same car who we saw in this video raced in jeddah 2@@uvannaveen8237
Bro its been 3 years 🤦🏾
@@anajeemcfarland1548 yeah? So? There been a big improvement already. You honestly think they wont reach these laptimes eventually?
TBH, 2021 regs was the 5th year of large tires and high downforce cars, while 2024 is the 3rd year of a 'general freeze' reg
Basically what I asked for yesterday haha, ty !
I also about to say that, man.😅
Hamilton’s driving style is beautiful to watch, how late he brakes into turn 1 & the amount of speed he carries is so unique.
The 2021 cars are lighter than the current era cars. Weight has significant effect on braking.
Beautiful 💩💩💩💩💩, she finished without best cars bozzo niggas
@@Jojo_BeeHis braking is what he’s known for, there’s a reason he struggles more in places like Monaco where it’s more about precision than the speed carried into the corner.
@@lewisjh8962he has more Monaco wins than all the other drivers on the grid….
@@gaycha6589 I mean yeah, he was in a winning car his entire career, until 2022 that is.
Hulkenberg with the legend tow :D
Hulkenberg with a tow gained 21kph for Verstappen. :D
I just got F1 TV🎉
waste of money lol
@@geert574 not really
Def not a waste or money
Congrats bro!!
I am blessed by lord Nicholas Goatifi
i love how nico and max used teamwork
Mate the -0.335 is on the wrong side of the screen as 2021 was faster?
Yes. My bad.
@GVO_Macxthey wrote it after this guy said so no need to be aggressive
@GVO_Macx No this guy posted before yelistener did.
@GVO_Macx if you ain't blind, woulda seen that he posted his comment 1 hr before yelistener's comment
@GVO_Macxif you aint blind, woulda seen he posted this comment ***before*** yelistener
Great content mate! Keep it up 🎉
Always 10/10.
I dont think the weight and nimbleness of the 2024 cars is the issue in low/medium. Its their lack of mechanical grip due to their lack of compliance.
Because they run so low to the ground, they have to be extremely firmly sprung/damped, which is detrimental to your mechanical grip, because it lacks compliance. Especially on a bumpy track. Which is why newey designed the suspension himself on the RB20...
What is mechanical grip
@@miguelpereira9859 Type that same thing into google.
@@miguelpereira9859direct grip from visible mechanical elements on the car interacting with the track ( tyre, suspension, ) ....not the aerodynamic downforce from invisible air.
Its the predominant grip in low speed corners.
it’s a great factor in proving why these 2024 cars couldn’t gain time on the super fast corners on this circuit which they usually go on other circuits. bumpy af
generally these cars are heavier and have lower grip on slow corners.
Being longer and heavier will always be part of the issue. Suggesting that it isn’t is a bit silly. In reality it is a mix of all these things.
Thanks again for your fantastic videos. I just want to say that F1 is catching up again with the speed of 2020-2021. Every year teams find ways to improve. Soon F1 will be setting lap records again.
They only have next year to do it. The cars are about to get a lot slower in 2026.
2021 was significantly slower than 2020 there’s still a gap to go
Amazing as usual yelistener! Do you think we're gonna see speed records in Spa on Pouhon or in Spain T9 this year?
I think maybe next week they show that.
Love your videos mate
F1 from about 2017-2021 saw the most technological advanced cars in its history. If costs weren't so much of an issue who knows how fast they could of got. And with the currrent track of car regulations F1 are on now, I think 2021 will remain peak for F1 car performance.
In this case, it was supposed to be +335 and not minus 335 for 2024
Seems like 2020 and 2021 F1 cars at Imola still much faster than 2024 F1 cars.
genius comment
Congrats on 90k subs
@yelistener how do you find the telemetrys on f1 tv pro because i cant find it😢
Its cool watching Lawis drive the these corners without correcting snap oversteer
Merc had a stable rear, as Ham needs. RBR is much more difficult to drive. 👍👍
@@Eric-rf1isNah, Lewis just always carries speed into the corner
The RB currently has best stable rear, and also the best handling.
@@Eric-rf1is have you driven the car?
@@RobotTorzo Have been reading about the cars? Keep updated on F1, it helps.
@@afallenworld1581 Nah, the RBR is the trickiest car to drive. See the ALB interview and ask Checo. The RBR is pointy as hell, with a lose rear, every true F1 fan is aware of that.
let's just keep in mind that Piastri would've got pole if max didn't get any slipstream in the first straight
Imagine what Max or Alonso could have done in the W11 😱😱😱
these videos aleays remember me how much more i liked the previous generation of f1 cars😑
Compare it to 2020
Once a year, the F1 should let any team choose a car of the year they want to race in the track they desire
It would be interesting
do a 2020 analysis
So are we tryna make faster cars or slower ones?
Max make an mistake in turn 18
yeah he made a huge mistake in last corner, his time can be improved by over 0.300
How can you get that telemetry? I have f1 tv pro but I would like to have the telemetry as well to compare.
RB20 a heavier car and still with problems, Max managed almost the same time as Hamilton in 2021
Should have compared with 2020 W11 1:13:6
Also C4 vs C5, so W11 could have easily dipped into 1:12s
Do not forget that the W11 was 50 kilos lighter....
I'm not a fan of large car in tight road
I have one question regarding the sound: The 2021 Merc sounds way different to the 2024 Merc (higher pitched) but the PU is basically the same (except for E10 in 2024).
Does anybody know the reason for this?
If it wasn't for the bad final corner, he would've probably only be 1 tenth slower or less.
Where do you get your audio from????
Hey can you post Ocon’s quali lap from Monaco 2023 ? Because there are always the same drivers in your channel.
Someone tell me how softer tyres, higher track temps, with a tow from Hulkenberg even is a worse condition.
In my head, this is a perfectly better condition.
higher track temps is worse. softer tyres may run out quicker.
all of those are better condition except higher track temps because high temps will make the tyres overheat faster (they usually starts to overheat at the end of the lap) cooler track temps allows the tyres to stay within their operating temps much longer thus make the laptimes faster
@@stephenmiguel919 Thanks for the responses. But would degradation really degrade its performance if you're only pushing the tyres' threshold for 2 laps at most to get an official time in?
As i understand, these tyres could last around 15 laps before a noticeable dip in pace. So doesn't that mean the higher track temps would even help break in the tyres to their optimal operating range?
Amazing!!
2019 to 2021 F1 Cars surprisingly still faster than 2024 F1 car at Imola.
2021 fastest car on pole.
2022 fastest driver on pole
Is Max's sector 1 insane timing driven by tow?
Why not 2020 though?
Show it to Bottasˋ lap in 2020
Max verstappen mogging to hamilCAR
Is it just me or that merc was like had the shorter gear ratio compared to new gen cars?
That’s my Goat
Man that 2021 Merc sounded ass. Already forgot how bad it was 😂
Verstappen left 3 tenths in the last corner
how can you compare a 2021 to 2024
the car is heavier and bigger sooooo
W11 forever best
where do you even get the raw clips?
F1 TV
should we expect the 2024 cars be faster than 2021 on Monza or long straightline tracks this year?
Yah probably. And maybe one some high speed tracks. Yeah the jeddah pole lap by max this year was faster than lewis' in 2021
@@josephgreen6531With Jeddah it’s not quite a direct comparison as they’ve opened the walls up in certain corners in 2024 compared to 2021 improving sightlines and apex speed
The GE cars do have good high corner performance though
mate, valtteri did a 1:13.609 in 2020, why did you pick 2021 over valtteri's faster pole?
Cuz he knew W11 was just going to destroy RB20, atleast with W12 the redbull was a little close
Why bother? Two different specs of cars.
Its crazy that he almost was able to be as quick as the fastest car in F1
2021 isn't the fastest 2020 is
@@josephgreen6531 2021 car literally is the evolution of the 2020
@@theultimatewalker1510 And it was slower than the W11 due to the floor changes of 2021.
The 2020 W11 is the fastest F1 car ever built over 1 lap. By a lot.
@@theultimatewalker1510 2021 saw reg changes to weaken the mercedes after a dominant 2020. no das, no party mode, and rake changes which mde the w12 slower than the w11.
@@theultimatewalker1510Had like six things banned in that car, there was zero evolution. It wasn't even the fastest car in 2021, the RB16B wad.
What are you trying to show in these videos? We all know the 21 Cars were faster than the 24 Cars
Max’s lap Mighty impressive ❤
w11 is faster than w12 right?
Way faster
Can someone explain why the Honda PU sounds like it has TC?
This videos are needed to see Hamilton in first place in 2024 😂😂😂 must be terrible no wins for over 2 years..........
Mercedes is faster on the street. RBR...
Kkkkkkkkkk
I can only say, that F1 never needed those rule changes in my opinion, at least. Besides they keep adding new, unwanted aspects and take away loved and needed features. (or think about it)Yes they wan't to save money and be more sustainable. On the other hand, they keep building new tracks - and correct me if im wrong, but this isn't naturally too eniromentally friendly.
Last but not least, it's supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport and I really have to say, they're losing that place.
Ground effect is so stupid. High speed corners being even faster makes close racing more difficult and dangerous while in slow corners cars behave like cows which again makes it boring. They have so much time to think about these changes every few seasons and somehow they only succeed in making F1 worse since like 2014...
And they absolutely fall apart on bumpy tracks. And they're too wide to allow for side-by-side racing.
They either need to drive different tracks that are twice as wide, or change the cars.
Can't be driving these mickey-mouse tracks anymore.
Ground effect DOES make it easier to follow others. That's why the GF was implemented.
Before the ground effect rules was impossible to follow another car, a massive loss of grip and pretty tyre degradation
@@The_Noticer. True. I think their focus on F1 being the absolutely fastest racing series just kills the racing itself. Cars must be so big to protect drivers at these speeds, which is understandable but now on some tracks where you could have 3 wide racing before, 2 cars barely fit side by side.
@@The_Noticer. Width isn't ground effects related tbf, they are about as wide as the pre-2022 cars were, in fact they're also shorter
Just goes to show you how horrible F1 cars have come to be. Crashy only got this time with a massive tow from Hulky. Talk about going a$$-backwards into the future. It isn't enjoyable to watch, far from it - everything about F1 just gets worse, and worse, and worse...it's pure garbage now.
Sour loser, that’s what you are. Max equaled the consecutive number of pole positions Senna set long ago. 8 consecutive poles puts Max on par with the Master. And you call Max crashy? Disrespectful
You should consider growing up.
@@quigglyz Oh, like you? Yes! We ALL wanna be like you!
Even though the 2024 cars are 50kg heavier, it's incredible how close they are.
Whats the song you use when you put the subtitles? imagine the 2020 f1 cars with 2022 ground effect...
Your profile picture always reminds me of toto 😂
It’s Anton Chigurh from “no country for old men”