Physics 26 (10 of 10) Mixing 2 Volumes of Gases

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  • @Gzombiiee123
    @Gzombiiee123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Its 2:46AM and I'm super tired studying at a Starbucks at the moment.I have a physics 270 test in 5 days and I really want to crush this one. Physics is a subject I've come to love and I want you to know I really enjoy your content it's only amplified my studying experience. You are always very clear and well paced as you explain. Thanks for the help!

  • @Love_Sinha
    @Love_Sinha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well explained and the no change in internal energy concept was just great!

  • @therealtdp
    @therealtdp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know im late but I LOVE YOU DUDE I WAS STUCK FOR LIKE FOR 3 HOURS WITH THIS DERIVATION ANS YOU HELPED ME UNDERSTAND IT! THANK YOU SO MUCH

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You're welcome! Glad it helped.

  • @avidipak5420
    @avidipak5420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So easily explained... Thank you so much

  • @suvarnmalagitte9123
    @suvarnmalagitte9123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:18 by mixing of gases volume of left gas changed from V1 to V1+V2 this work must be done😧?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Work is only done if the volume of the container is increased. In this case the volume of the container remains constant..

  • @galangglassesboy
    @galangglassesboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So, the initial pressure of both gases is not needed?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It depends on how you want to solve the problem. It can be solved in multiple ways, some of which will require the initial pressure.

  • @mostafaabdelrauof3185
    @mostafaabdelrauof3185 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello sir can you help me in a case which an insulated pipe and fluid inside it and heat transfer with the surrounding air , And I have calculated the heat loss rate already but can't calculate the final temp. !!?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Based on your description, we cannot form a picture of what is happening or what you are asking. Any liquid or gas that flows through a pipe will lose energy through the walls of the pipe. Therefor the temperature of the fluid will drop in reference to the starting point at presumably a specific temperature. The rate of heat loss depends on the difference in temperature between the inside and the outside, and the thickness and type of material the walls are made of. Thus the rate of heat loss deminished with greater distance from the source point.

  • @syliennemohammadu9719
    @syliennemohammadu9719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please how do we get the final temperature when initial temperature is given ,numberof moles,volume is constant and pressure isnt given but internal energy is given

  • @hatsadythongin6100
    @hatsadythongin6100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sir, the formula T=(n1t1+n2t2)/(n1+n2) is valid for mixing mono with mono? what about dia with dia ? and mono with dia?

    • @saayanbiswas209
      @saayanbiswas209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think then you would also need to find the Equivalent Cv of the mixture.

    • @anmolempire1197
      @anmolempire1197 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      More specifically use following equation for final temperature you will get :
      T= f1.n1.T1+ f2.n2.T2/(f1n1 + f2n2)
      f= Degree of freedom
      n= no. of mole
      T= temperature

    • @garv_g
      @garv_g 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cv cancelled out and the first equation has no dependency on Cv

    • @Pushed2InsanityYT
      @Pushed2InsanityYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Valid for mono+mono , dia+dia, tri+tri etc-- in case of dia+mono, tri+mono etc- go with @Anmol Emprire's formula, it is generalized!

  • @adityaranjan1865
    @adityaranjan1865 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I ll surely donate after getting my job.

  • @RiyaTomar-jd3mw
    @RiyaTomar-jd3mw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sir i have a question from the final temperature equation
    its given that , 1 mol of N2 at temperature To and one mole of He at temp 7/3 To are mixed . what is the final temp of the mixture .
    i applied the final temp formula but i could not get the answer . the right answer is 3/2 To.

    • @anmolempire1197
      @anmolempire1197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More specifically use following equation for final temperature you will get :
      T= f1.n1.T1+ f2.n2.T2/(f1n1 + f2n2)
      f= Degree of freedom
      n= no. of mole
      T= temperature
      As far as your question:
      T= (5×1×To)+(3×1×7/3To) / [5×1+3×1]
      T=3/2To

    • @RiyaTomar-jd3mw
      @RiyaTomar-jd3mw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anmolempire1197 heyy thanks!!

    • @Pushed2InsanityYT
      @Pushed2InsanityYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anmolempire1197 Absolutely correct, i derived it too, ya'll can be sure it's the right formula!

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct. If you mix 2 gases with a different specific heat, you also have to account for that.

    • @RiyaTomar-jd3mw
      @RiyaTomar-jd3mw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichelvanBiezen thank you sir :)

  • @Peter_1986
    @Peter_1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The equation for the final temperature has exactly the same form as the coordinate for the resultant force in a moment problem.

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You will find a lot of similarities with equations for different concepts in physics. (I was once able to solve an engineering problem by assuming that the E&M interaction between circuit lines in multi-layered circuit boards followed the same interaction between high voltage power lines, and the equations where an exact match)

  • @0ki7o
    @0ki7o 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about entropy generation?

  • @zakmatew
    @zakmatew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can this equation be used for the final temperature of two air masses?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, but they do need to give you the intial temperature.

    • @zakmatew
      @zakmatew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichelvanBiezen thank you for your reply!

  • @SreenadhJonnavithula
    @SreenadhJonnavithula ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you substitute n1=P1V1/RT1 and n2=P2V2/RT2 into the Pf equation, it simplifies into a very satisfying form Pf=(P1V1+P2V2)/(V1+V2)

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you.

    • @arielgauss9105
      @arielgauss9105 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can Tf be expressed in an equation without n1 and n2 as well?

    • @dreamer2109
      @dreamer2109 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hello sir, do you know any good physic forum

  • @AkshayGupta7809
    @AkshayGupta7809 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sir I have a question. What if two different volume of gases having same temperature and pressure. Can it be mixed? If yes how?

    • @dilomine1352
      @dilomine1352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If pressure is same, gases cannot be mixed

    • @dilomine1352
      @dilomine1352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Shashwat Saxena how does that happen? Gases flow from high to low pressure and if theres no pressure gradient they wont mix, unless if you're talkinh practically where the two gasses are linked to each other and they mix there, but thats negligible.

  • @arkalieben2466
    @arkalieben2466 ปีที่แล้ว

    sir i want to ask, where did you get U = n Cv T???

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  ปีที่แล้ว

      The internal energy depends only on 3 things. 1) The number of degrees of freedom which is represented by Cv 2) The number of mols of the gas represented by n and 3) The temperature of the gas.

  • @akvs2002
    @akvs2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simply Outstanding.

  • @bebinashanty5545
    @bebinashanty5545 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hmm ....... was an interesting question

  • @learnwithanjali5505
    @learnwithanjali5505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sir can you plz make a video on entropy of mixxing of 2 gases?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have a few videos on entropy in a gas in this playlist: PHYSICS 32.5 - STATISTICAL THERMODYNAMICS We'll look into adding that one.

  • @shunnthant1340
    @shunnthant1340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for your kindness. It saved me.✨🍀thank you,thank you

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you found our videos helpful. 🙂

  • @anthonysawaya6142
    @anthonysawaya6142 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr all of these thermodynamics videos are applied on the course for mechanical engineering???

  • @aleksandardimovski7960
    @aleksandardimovski7960 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just had this question on a final exam and it was the only one I got wrong. No value was given for the specific volume. Only the initial pressure and temperature of both gases and final temperature of the mixture. The problem was to find the final pressure. The problem also did not state which ideal gas I was working with so there was no way to find the specific volume from a chart. How am I supposed to find the final pressure given that much information? If the specific volume was given, I would have been able to answer it.

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You start with the equation: PV = nRT (This applies to any type of gas, monatomic, diatomic, etc.) Then you need to determine which of the 3 state variables remains constant. Based on what you describe, the volume probably remains constant (although not explicitly stated). Then the equation become P/T = rR/V = constant. Thus P1/T1 = P2/T2

  • @ankittiwari5206
    @ankittiwari5206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks you so much for the explanation, 😊

  • @dragonartgroup6982
    @dragonartgroup6982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank u so mush it helped me alotttt❤️❤️❤️

  • @Retroist2024
    @Retroist2024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why no work?

  • @zacbressick3784
    @zacbressick3784 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can we assume that the gas is doing no work in order to expand?

  • @deepeshgupta1448
    @deepeshgupta1448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you professor

  • @kingplunger1
    @kingplunger1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this video is missing from the main thermodynamics playlist. The states section ends with 9 of 10 :)

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is in the playlist, it may be missing from the website: PHYSICS 26 THE IDEAL GAS EQUATION

    • @kingplunger1
      @kingplunger1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichelvanBiezen Sry, I should have specified more: I mean the 137 video long complete playlist. In that one it is missing between Physics-Thermodynamics: States (9 of 10) Work Done By A Gas (Basics) and Physics - Thermodynamics: (1 of 22) What is the First Law of Thermodynamics

  • @shirishchavan6483
    @shirishchavan6483 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Lectures.

  • @aurangzebkhalib6170
    @aurangzebkhalib6170 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello professor this was really amazing. Well I wonder what will happen if they don't have specific heat?

  • @physicsguy4866
    @physicsguy4866 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK that make sense.....but what happen when specific heat are different?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That makes the problem somewhat harder. You have to calculate the relative internal energy and find the weighted factor based on the amount of each gas.

    • @physicsguy4866
      @physicsguy4866 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please.... make a video on it

    • @salgueromarvin4579
      @salgueromarvin4579 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Physics Guy It's not that hard. Send me an email to marvin.salguero.p@gmail.com and I'll send you an exercise about it

    • @awesomenasam9180
      @awesomenasam9180 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have answer for it when both having same cv

    • @anmolempire1197
      @anmolempire1197 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichelvanBiezen
      More specifically use following equation for final temperature you will get :
      T= f1.n1.T1+ f2.n2.T2/(f1n1 + f2n2)
      f= Degree of freedom
      n= no. of mole
      T= temperature

  • @scrappyandcrafty5093
    @scrappyandcrafty5093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wow this worked.

  • @phew9532
    @phew9532 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive

  • @bardhanbhunia2615
    @bardhanbhunia2615 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow