I just got a new Anytone AT-D868UV and I'm totally new to DMR and you are really helping me to understand this mode of operation. Thanks a lot. 73 - KF5XW
Being new on DMR, only 2 weeks now, I still have a lot to learn, and you explained this very clearly ! Thanks for this video, and also enjoyed the one about the Anytone AT-D868UV 'Things You Should Know' , which I bought recently. Will view the others with great interest. 73 ! Patrick ON4CDJ
Awesome intro for newbies in DMR. Very useful. Please keep going. Would be nice to get how-to video about qso from beginning to end (i.e. 868 + openspot).
So…if you have several channels in a scan list, but haven’t keyed up any of the channels, will you even hear anything? Is scanning more for RF vs. a hotspot?
Hello. im new to dmr..... is it posible to make a private talkgroupe for my team of first responders? we need a secure talkgroupe just for our groupe.... And can we all use the same hotspot?
Question for you -- my workplace uses 461.050 with three separate channels/talkgroups - 1, 2 and 3. (Listed this way on RadioReference.) Do (or can) DMR ham radios talk on our frequency then with separate talkgroups like that? Or, if someone was using a DMR radio and set it to 461.050, what would they hear, nothing? Everything? Can they listen to us or would they have to have some privacy/talkgroup entered somehow? I do security out there so was curious who can listen to us. Our radio system on RadioReference is listed as DMR Motorola Capacity Plus Single Site (TRBO). Thanks!
I know this is an older video, but thanks. You touched on a lot of stuff that was missing in other peoples videos.. I do still have one question though. If I want to monitor a brandmeister talkgroup that has hardly any traffic, is there a way to do this without having to set a static talkgroup every time I want to monitor this talkgroup? ex; I'd like to be able to set my hotspot to TG 3023 or 3029 to monitor for calls for say an hour or 2, but would still like to be able to change talkgroups right from my radio or without messing with my dashboard. (Sometimes I bring my hotspot with me to family members houses and don't have access to my dashboard to change Static TGs)
You could use a “4000 disconnect” command to drop the static TGs, but from there you’d be dependent on keying dynamics until you can reapply your statics.
One way to handle this is to set-up a timed static talkgroup in brandmeister before you leave on your trip. Combine this with a judicious use of an Rx group list.
Ok. To be crystal clear. If I add a static talkgroup to my hotspot, lets say 3104. I will ALWAYS hear traffic on that talkgroup even if I am dynamically linked to another talkgroup, lets say 91? Then, if I key up to talk which talkgroup will I actually be talking to? Both? Static? or Dynamic?
You’re first question is correct. You’ll hear it no matter what is coming through dynamically. It won’t override and active transmission, but you’ll hear traffic when the dynamic TG unkeys. Your keyed talkgroup will be determined by your radio, not your hotspot.
What happens if someone on a repeater keys up a dynamic TG, isn't using it, and you want to swap it? do you have to wait for the repeater to drop it? or is there a way to "override" it so you can swap to another TG? Still trying to wrap my head around it, but its making more and more sense to me each day. Really can't wait to save up for a DMR radio.
Great video! Keep up the good work. Just to confirm, whether a hotspot has static or dynamic talkgroups assigned makes no difference in the operator's ability to transmit to a particular talk group, right? Hank Perritt K9KDF
Correct. Even if a hotspot has static talkgroups, you can dial in any talkgroup and bring it up dynamically. Static talkgroups just impacts what you’re hotspot and radio will hear when your radio is sitting idle/monitoring.
Question: I am at a local repeater which is using TS 2 for dynamic talkgroup connection. TS 1 is used for normal repeater traffic, so I programmed another channel using TS2. Now, I have a Radioddity GD-77, how do I connect dynamically to a talkgroup using the rpt? 73 de WP3BM
Hi quick question I hope you can answer ? If you have multiple static Talkgroups on one Timeslot, what happens if you have QSO's happening on both talk groups? In this scenario I would have my radio set to one talk group, would that radio loose traffic if someone tx'd on one of the other statics on another hotspot/repeater? So an expample I would have TG 2350 and 23580 set as statics on one talk group, my radio is set on TG23580 and somebody else TX's on 2350 on a different repeater. I am using a PI-Star based duplex hotspot. And also same question applies to dynamic groups, if I had my radio on a dynamic group and some tx'd on one of my statics what would happen ? 73 de G1IUL
This is great information so far. What if I key up a dynamic talk group, then someone comes after me and keys up a different one. Does that time slot then move to only the last talk group keyed?
Is it possible to configure the "On Demand Timer" for dynamic TG's so that the delay is other than dynamic on a duplex Hotspot or that it can be removed only with a 4000 instead of just 15 minutes?
@@whenpigsfly3271 I'm talking about HotSpot. No DMR radio... I later understood that the network determines the delay and that we have no control. THANKS!
My confusion right now is what decides the talk groups available on a zumspot. Is it the contacts programmed into the radio or some setting in pi-star that determines the available talk groups and which will be static? I am currently hearing Tac 310 on my zumspot and it never drops. Does that mean I have it set as static in pi-star somehow? Thanks for the video.
Thank you very much. I didn't even realize the two were connected. Apparently the default setting makes whatever the last talk group you keyed up the current static talk group until you key up a different one.
you didn't explain how an operator can tell if a talkgroup is one or the other type.... So you could assume it's static and on a repeater with little traffic, you'll go grey waiting on hearing anything - if it was actually dynamic... Conversely, you might key up on a static group and interrupt a qso if you're between overs... it'd be good to know how to tell the two types, and I can't see how to do that. I'm dead-new to all this, find the complexity quite - intimidating, almost?
Repeater operators will usually publish what is static on time slots when you look up the machine, so you should be aware before every monitoring the machine. “Interrupting” is pretty commonplace on DMR. What I mean by that is seeing an op key up for a split second to hear what’s going on in the talk group. They won’t ID (this is controversial), but open it up and listen before putting out a call. You get used to it.
Can you tell me why I would have Dynamic TGs on my Hotspot. As you have to key them up anyway how is that different from having talkgroups that I have added via codeplug - you have to key those up too. How does my hotspot present dynamic TGs to my radio?
What hotspot are you using? You usually have to set up static talkgroups on the Brandmeister dashboard under your hotspot. You need to program talkgroups into your radio so the radio knows where to send your transmission. Without a talkgroup the radio would just route it locally and not across the Brandmeister network. The hotspot will read what Talkgroup the radio is sending and route it appropriately. Remember, dynamic talkgroups stay open to your radio for 15 minutes after the last transmission. After the 15 minutes the connection drops and you’d need to re-key. Setting a STATIC talk group on your hotspot allows you to hear anything that comes across without keying every 15 minutes. Static talkgroups allow you to monitor talkgroups you want, much like you listen to traffic across an analog repeater. Sorry, this is hard to explain via text. 😊
@@K0LWC Ok, work with me here as I literally am brand new at this and don't even have a way yet to connect to DMR. Question, do you set this on the brandmeister site?
@@K0LWC Let me understand this, you mean, if someone else, a third party, PTT's during the pause of the ongoing QSO, this third party TG would become active as well?
It’s my primary of the 5 I have , I really like it .... my hd1 is my 2nd now lol I like the cs580 for travel as it has the enhanced scanning and will latch those repeaters if needed but I normally have my hotspot, on me lol
This is the most concise explanation of this I have heard. Good job!
Glad it helped!
My light bulb just came on..... Thank you for the explanation! I am two weeks into DMR and I was so confused on this....
Thank you so much for this information, I am new to DMR and appreciate your videos.
Kind regards, DO7DAD . Germany,
Glad it was helpful!
I just got a new Anytone AT-D868UV and I'm totally new to DMR and you are really helping me to understand this mode of operation. Thanks a lot. 73 - KF5XW
Being new on DMR, only 2 weeks now, I still have a lot to learn, and you explained this very clearly !
Thanks for this video, and also enjoyed the one about the Anytone AT-D868UV 'Things You Should Know' , which I bought recently.
Will view the others with great interest.
73 !
Patrick ON4CDJ
Patrick Verkimpe Glad you found it useful! I’m VERY glad you think it’s clear and understandable. 😊
Thanks, easiest to understand explanation I have heard👍
Awesome intro for newbies in DMR. Very useful. Please keep going.
Would be nice to get how-to video about qso from beginning to end (i.e. 868 + openspot).
I'll jot that idea down!
Exactly what ai was looking for. Clear and to the point. Thanks. 73:
A clear and concise explanation, thank's.
Good to see some young guys in radio
So…if you have several channels in a scan list, but haven’t keyed up any of the channels, will you even hear anything? Is scanning more for RF vs. a hotspot?
Love your videos, just getting into DMR, sub added.....keep those vids coming
Hello. im new to dmr..... is it posible to make a private talkgroupe for my team of first responders? we need a secure talkgroupe just for our groupe.... And can we all use the same hotspot?
Another great video! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Question for you -- my workplace uses 461.050 with three separate channels/talkgroups - 1, 2 and 3. (Listed this way on RadioReference.) Do (or can) DMR ham radios talk on our frequency then with separate talkgroups like that? Or, if someone was using a DMR radio and set it to 461.050, what would they hear, nothing? Everything? Can they listen to us or would they have to have some privacy/talkgroup entered somehow? I do security out there so was curious who can listen to us. Our radio system on RadioReference is listed as DMR Motorola Capacity Plus Single Site (TRBO). Thanks!
Thank for Explaining well!
I know this is an older video, but thanks. You touched on a lot of stuff that was missing in other peoples videos.. I do still have one question though. If I want to monitor a brandmeister talkgroup that has hardly any traffic, is there a way to do this without having to set a static talkgroup every time I want to monitor this talkgroup? ex; I'd like to be able to set my hotspot to TG 3023 or 3029 to monitor for calls for say an hour or 2, but would still like to be able to change talkgroups right from my radio or without messing with my dashboard. (Sometimes I bring my hotspot with me to family members houses and don't
have access to my dashboard to change Static TGs)
You could use a “4000 disconnect” command to drop the static TGs, but from there you’d be dependent on keying dynamics until you can reapply your statics.
Gotcha, thanks for that buddy !
One way to handle this is to set-up a timed static talkgroup in brandmeister before you leave on your trip. Combine this with a judicious use of an Rx group list.
Ok. To be crystal clear.
If I add a static talkgroup to my hotspot, lets say 3104. I will ALWAYS hear traffic on that talkgroup even if I am dynamically linked to another talkgroup, lets say 91? Then, if I key up to talk which talkgroup will I actually be talking to? Both? Static? or Dynamic?
You’re first question is correct. You’ll hear it no matter what is coming through dynamically. It won’t override and active transmission, but you’ll hear traffic when the dynamic TG unkeys.
Your keyed talkgroup will be determined by your radio, not your hotspot.
What happens if someone on a repeater keys up a dynamic TG, isn't using it, and you want to swap it? do you have to wait for the repeater to drop it? or is there a way to "override" it so you can swap to another TG? Still trying to wrap my head around it, but its making more and more sense to me each day. Really can't wait to save up for a DMR radio.
Very good explanation - I'd been wondering what the difference was (Im new to DMR by the way)
So a specific talkgroup can be acessed from any repeater if it's a dmr repeater??
Whats the point of setting dynamic talk groups if you need to PTT the talk groups either way?
great definition ....How do you set up your rig to use static on a HS?
Great video! Keep up the good work. Just to confirm, whether a hotspot has static or dynamic talkgroups assigned makes no difference in the operator's ability to transmit to a particular talk group, right? Hank Perritt K9KDF
Correct. Even if a hotspot has static talkgroups, you can dial in any talkgroup and bring it up dynamically. Static talkgroups just impacts what you’re hotspot and radio will hear when your radio is sitting idle/monitoring.
Question: I am at a local repeater which is using TS 2 for dynamic talkgroup connection. TS 1 is used for normal repeater traffic, so I programmed another channel using TS2. Now, I have a Radioddity GD-77, how do I connect dynamically to a talkgroup using the rpt? 73 de WP3BM
Hi quick question I hope you can answer ? If you have multiple static Talkgroups on one Timeslot, what happens if you have QSO's happening on both talk groups? In this scenario I would have my radio set to one talk group, would that radio loose traffic if someone tx'd on one of the other statics on another hotspot/repeater? So an expample I would have TG 2350 and 23580 set as statics on one talk group, my radio is set on TG23580 and somebody else TX's on 2350 on a different repeater. I am using a PI-Star based duplex hotspot. And also same question applies to dynamic groups, if I had my radio on a dynamic group and some tx'd on one of my statics what would happen ?
73 de G1IUL
This is great information so far. What if I key up a dynamic talk group, then someone comes after me and keys up a different one. Does that time slot then move to only the last talk group keyed?
Yes, it does-- but both will remain open and active.
Is it possible to configure the "On Demand Timer" for dynamic TG's so that the delay is other than dynamic on a duplex Hotspot or that it can be removed only with a 4000 instead of just 15 minutes?
Look at your hold times in Digital Func < optional settings < in your CPS.
@@whenpigsfly3271 I'm talking about HotSpot. No DMR radio...
I later understood that the network determines the delay and that we have no control. THANKS!
My confusion right now is what decides the talk groups available on a zumspot. Is it the contacts programmed into the radio or some setting in pi-star that determines the available talk groups and which will be static? I am currently hearing Tac 310 on my zumspot and it never drops. Does that mean I have it set as static in pi-star somehow? Thanks for the video.
Your static talkgroups are set via your Brandmeister self-care page. Is your hotspot listed on your Brandmeister profile? That’s where you’ll do it.
Thank you very much. I didn't even realize the two were connected. Apparently the default setting makes whatever the last talk group you keyed up the current static talk group until you key up a different one.
you didn't explain how an operator can tell if a talkgroup is one or the other type.... So you could assume it's static and on a repeater with little traffic, you'll go grey waiting on hearing anything - if it was actually dynamic...
Conversely, you might key up on a static group and interrupt a qso if you're between overs... it'd be good to know how to tell the two types, and I can't see how to do that. I'm dead-new to all this, find the complexity quite - intimidating, almost?
Repeater operators will usually publish what is static on time slots when you look up the machine, so you should be aware before every monitoring the machine.
“Interrupting” is pretty commonplace on DMR. What I mean by that is seeing an op key up for a split second to hear what’s going on in the talk group. They won’t ID (this is controversial), but open it up and listen before putting out a call. You get used to it.
Thanks!
Can you tell me why I would have Dynamic TGs on my Hotspot. As you have to key them up anyway how is that different from having talkgroups that I have added via codeplug - you have to key those up too. How does my hotspot present dynamic TGs to my radio?
What hotspot are you using?
You usually have to set up static talkgroups on the Brandmeister dashboard under your hotspot.
You need to program talkgroups into your radio so the radio knows where to send your transmission. Without a talkgroup the radio would just route it locally and not across the Brandmeister network. The hotspot will read what Talkgroup the radio is sending and route it appropriately.
Remember, dynamic talkgroups stay open to your radio for 15 minutes after the last transmission. After the 15 minutes the connection drops and you’d need to re-key. Setting a STATIC talk group on your hotspot allows you to hear anything that comes across without keying every 15 minutes. Static talkgroups allow you to monitor talkgroups you want, much like you listen to traffic across an analog repeater.
Sorry, this is hard to explain via text. 😊
Nice video.....but I dont understand about Talkaround, can yu tell me about that?
Thankyu....
Talkaround? Is that your question?
Static = Fulltime
Dynamic = PTT
What if I'm monitoring say BM TG 425, is it up to me to set it as static or dynamic asuming I have my own hotspot?
Yes. You assign static talkgroups for your hotspot on your Brandmeister dashboard. Otherwise it will all be dynamic.
@@K0LWC Ok, work with me here as I literally am brand new at this and don't even have a way yet to connect to DMR. Question, do you set this on the brandmeister site?
Yes, you do. It’s under “Hotspots” after you login to your Brandmeister account.
@@K0LWC Do I set it and forget it? Also, How does this work if I am say using an Analog MMDVM bridge through AllStar?
Yes, once you set a static talk group it will be always on. However, they do offer a feature to only activate at certain times/days.
If you stop talking on a dynamic talk group, can soneone key up a different talk group before the 15 minutes is up?
Yes, they’ll both remain active and grab whatever comes first after a pause.
@@K0LWC Let me understand this, you mean, if someone else, a third party, PTT's during the pause of the ongoing QSO, this third party TG would become active as well?
Great explanation. 73 K1WLJ
Once you set a dynamic TG, can you or anyone else change it to another TG or do you have to wait 15min.?
sparkie001 Someone can key up a different TG and steal the time slot from you.
You don't need to wait 15 minutes.
I always remember static =stay
Dynamic =drop
Dewey Corage That’s a great way to remember it.
K0LWC thanks Kc3kpe
So 15minutes is the default and cannot be changed
Your the reason I have an 868 haha
Dewey Corage How do you like it so far?
It’s my primary of the 5 I have , I really like it .... my hd1 is my 2nd now lol
I like the cs580 for travel as it has the enhanced scanning and will latch those repeaters if needed but I normally have my hotspot, on me lol
Are you sponsored by Patagonia?
I’m not. If you know if anyone there, I’m happy to take sponsorship dollars. 😊
In all seriousness, I just have a ton of clothing from them.