The only interesting characters in this TV show are Xanatos and Thailog. The rest of the characters are too boring and too predictable except for maybe Dimona and MacBeth. And this episode reminds me of Putin's Z propaganda for de-nazification of Ukraine which is why I am not thrilled about it
I had a hearty laugh, when I recently read in another Gargoyles video, that the episodes of Gargoyles that were animated in Japan/Korea were subpar. Now I look up the animation on this episode, which is among the high quality ones animation wise and, lo and behold: It was animated in Japan. Such surprise.
How the flippity flip DID Goliath meet Griff without knowing him?! The only logical explanation I concluded is he entered another timeline with the phoenix gate
Gargoyles works under the Grandfather Paradox. Basically every attempt to change the past is futile since the past was already changed by you going before you did so.
Maybe not? Because I think there's no paradox because even though Goliath went back in time to save Griff he ultimately did so by removing him from 1940 and bring him to 1990. So therefore technically the Paradox can't happen.
3-4 decades ago i worked very hard to remember the spell to the phoenix gate. i was so proud of myself. i know it was just for fun but i like the sound of it. did anyone ever figure out what language it was.
Luciano Guerra it’s latin if memory serves. Translates to something along the lines of “break through the barrier of space and time” don’t quote me on the full thing.
Time travel in Gargoyles is explicitly of the "immutable history" variety, where any changes you try to make to the past are ultimately things you already knew from history before you tried. Near the end of the wedding episode (where they first used the Phoenix Gate at all) a young Demona returns to their castle to find Goliath under the stone spell, but modern Goliath appears and offers her a moment of comfort before returning to present day. Then modern Demona confirms she remembers it, but it did not affect what else happened over time to make her who she was today.
well time new gargoyles cartoon. set in past in middle ages. get answers so many questions reamain un answered. like were do all gargoyles came from? are demons are part dragons? back then did fight dragons?
@@IgarappappaThe biggest problem with this Disney TV show is that the English language from before the Norman French invasion in the year 1066 A.D. would be unintelligible to a modern English speaker. Before the year 1066 A.D. the earlier version of the olde English language sounded very similar to the German language or the Dutch language or the Yiddish language or the Afrikaans language. After the Norman invasion in the year 1066 A.D. the English language started to sound less and less like a German Saxon dialect and more and more like a collection of incorrectly mispronounced medieval Norman French words (which is basically what the English language is today). Basically if you traveled back in time to London before the year 1066 A.D. you would need a German speaking person or a Dutch speaking person to help translate the Germanic words of the old English language into the mispronounced French words of modern English. In old English they use the word "Schwein" or "swine" for pig for example.
@@224dot0dot0dot10 The in-universe explanation is magic being cast by Demona on the Clan before they revived to prevent the language barrier and Avalon magic when they went they went on their World Tour. The out of universe explanation is just to prevent that problem dragging down the story.
No, not really just folded as I'll come to understand time. any decision made by an one now an then just add's to the fabric of time booms that affect large ares are more damaging. Thinning the fabric but not for long it's very flexible . It's one of the reasons you can't step back in time every decision adds another wrinkle to the fabric.
She "knows her merchandise"? Is Weisman saying that there's a pair of gargoyles in London peddling *actual* magic in this universe? I feel as though this would strain the Masquerade...
It's possible she only sells encyclopedias on wicca and the like to ordinary folks whilst retaining the actual, potent stuff for personal use & to barter with the odd, fellow spell caster who strolls in aiming to trade. According to Greg Weisman vampires exist in the Gargverse, so, why not witch covens too? Probably a whole, underground community of UK broom fliers.
@@Igarappappa Reading it, and it says that they do in fact sell real magic, but that not everyone knows about it. So my specialty clientele guess was right. Relevant Links: gargwiki.net/Into_the_Mystic www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=8677
@@TheNoybusinessActually the German soldiers were famous for disobeying orders and being unpredictable in WW2 as part of "Auftragstaktik" (the Germans were even more random and totally unpredictable back in the day in ancient times when they were fighting against the more conservative and more predictable Roman soldiers at "the Battle of Teutoburg Forest" two thousand years ago in the year 9 A.D.). The problem for the Germans in World War 2 was that the Polish scientists and the British scientists had broken the cryptography on the Enigma machine (like in "The Imitation Game") so the allies were able to decrypt the German war plans and German military orders that were transmitted by the Enigma machine so the British intelligence agencies knew exactly what the German military units were ordered to do before they would do it, and the only way for the German military units to survive for a few years in combat with the British was to constantly disobey orders and constantly improvise new plans on the spot. General Rommel, for example, was famous for always doing something totally different than what he was ordered to do and the British knew what Rommel was ordered to do because the British had broken the Enigma machine encryption in the German communication systems.
@@heatherturner2366According to many historians, the German soldiers were famous for disobeying orders and being unpredictable in WW2 as part of "Auftragstaktik" (the Germans were even random and totally unpredictable back in the day in ancient times when they were fighting against the more conservative and more predictable Roman soldiers at "the Battle of Teutoburg Forest" two thousand years ago in the year 9 A.D.). The problem for the Germans in World War 2 was that the Polish scientists and the British scientists had broken the cryptography on the Enigma machine (like in "The Imitation Game") so the allies were able to decrypt the German war plans and German military orders that were transmitted by the Enigma machine so the British intelligence agencies knew exactly what the German military units were ordered to do before they would do it, and the only way for the German military units to survive for a few years in combat with the British was to constantly disobey orders and constantly improvise new plans on the spot. General Rommel, for example, was famous for always doing something totally different than what he was ordered to do and the British knew what Rommel was ordered to do because the British had broken the Enigma machine encryption in the German communication systems.
Nothing. All time travel is of the Stable variety, as seen here. History is immutable. There are no paradoxes, because the time traveler's actions are already part of the past.
Correct, except that Goliath only goes back in time because they told Home he was there. Which is a cause/effect paradox. He went back in time to see what happened, which didn’t happened until he went back. The cause of something cannot be itself..... That’s the only flaw.
I don't believe the Phoenix Gate mirrors what we'd expect out of the Flash universe. Before, when Demona first used the artifact, she actually allowed the timeline to continue; David Xanatos told his father a 'mysterious donor' who sent him a gold coin AND a list of instructions to give Xanatos his wealth and power, simply by traveling back in time with Demona, Goliath and his newly-wed wife, Fox. Even Demona, who remembered her interactions with her Future Self, DID NOT change. However, even I don't believe fully that Time is a continuous loop.
I wish the gargoyles were more consistent in their features as the British gargoyles have completely different features to goliath as they literally have heads and body parts of animals.
@@MB-ko3mr That's all Gargoyles. Different clans have different looks. Some more "human" looking than others. It's why Griff said Goliath looked like "Scottish stock". Some traits are more common to certain clans.
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This is something else, I remember it being good as a kid but it's way more than good
The only interesting characters in this TV show are Xanatos and Thailog. The rest of the characters are too boring and too predictable except for maybe Dimona and MacBeth. And this episode reminds me of Putin's Z propaganda for de-nazification of Ukraine which is why I am not thrilled about it
Any episode involving the Phoenix Gate is always an example of incredible writing. M.I.A., Future Tense, Vows, etc.
Which is crazy because most time travel stories aren’t good.
@@RedRaptor78it helps that the Phoenix Gate has very clear rules on how it works.
They are very strong particularly displaying the theme of fatalism that Greg Weisman definitely feels passionate about.
It was this episode that inspired me to write an essay about the Battle of Britain for my history class back in college.
How'd that go?
This was my favorite cartoons. When I was 9 .and I still love them👍
griff was a great character...would have liked if they did more stories of griff and his group.....
His proposed spinoff was Pendragon, about his adventures with King Arthur in present day
@@goodfellabadguy257 He showed up in the comics more.
Man this show was kickass
I couldn't wait to get home when I was younger to watch this show after school!! It was good.
Adam Caldwell hell yeah Did
I had a hearty laugh, when I recently read in another Gargoyles video, that the episodes of Gargoyles that were animated in Japan/Korea were subpar. Now I look up the animation on this episode, which is among the high quality ones animation wise and, lo and behold: It was animated in Japan. Such surprise.
Goliath is right. When something like a war breaks out, like WW2. It really becomes EVERYONE'S problem
Gargoyles is the best.. this is one of my favourite episodes
Holy shit, Gryff was voiced by the dude from She Wolf of London/Biggles. I'd know that voice anywhere.
How the flippity flip DID Goliath meet Griff without knowing him?! The only logical explanation I concluded is he entered another timeline with the phoenix gate
Gargoyles works under the Grandfather Paradox. Basically every attempt to change the past is futile since the past was already changed by you going before you did so.
the unicorn flying horse like looks like the elf lady of light from lord of the ring
Queen MeowTigeress
It’s probably because of the long blonde hair and she appears clad in white when her wings are wrapped around her.
Thanks for posting bringing back good memories and quality shows your rock
Well at least he caught a glimpse of some of the 1000 years he missed.
Awesome show. Great Artwork
I would love a movie of this in human form
Favorite episode of Gargoyles
The original furries in the 90s before it was cool lol .😂
Hahahaha
Gregg Berger (Leo) sounds just like Idris Elba with this adjusted audio.
I like how there is a lion and unicorn gargoyle since those animals are featured on the royal coat of arms
All of the London Clan we see in the comic are also animals of heraldry. Boar, Stag, Hippogriff, etc.
Griff's outfit reminds me of Kenshiro's.
You are already Dead!
Wow, it does!
My favorite cartoon of all-time
Una would be extremely attractive if she was voiced by Jodi Benson.
I wish we had gotten gargoyles spinoff shows about the other gargoyle clans and the new Olympians and the children of avalon
Paradox!!!!!
Yeah!!!!!
Maybe not? Because I think there's no paradox because even though Goliath went back in time to save Griff he ultimately did so by removing him from 1940 and bring him to 1990. So therefore technically the Paradox can't happen.
When animation wasn't just blobby figures with jelly bean mouths and noodle arms like today's animations, make animation great again.
This was the best Disney had too bad they took it off along with Gummi Bears
I am very attracted to that Unicorn lady
Who suddenly grew wings.
Una was voiced by Sarah Douglas who played the Kryptonian villain Ursa in the first two Superman movies with Christopher Reeve.
and I am very attracted to sexy Griff
Yo this show is Kickass action 🤯🤯🤯
Una sounds like Maleficent!
3-4 decades ago i worked very hard to remember the spell to the phoenix gate. i was so proud of myself. i know it was just for fun but i like the sound of it. did anyone ever figure out what language it was.
Luciano Guerra it’s latin if memory serves. Translates to something along the lines of “break through the barrier of space and time” don’t quote me on the full thing.
Deflagrate muri tempi et intervallia ("break down walls time and space")
@@SaintPandemonium Technically "BURN down the walls of space and time!"
@@Igarappappa yes!
Goliath: Hmmmm Its Rest For Then As Far Have Now, Angela.
Angela: We Want To Let Stay Here For My Friend.
Goliath: Alright Start To Get For Here.
Griff is a real one
I still don't understand how Goliath would have been there originally if dude was still stuck under the stone spell at this time?
Time travel in Gargoyles is explicitly of the "immutable history" variety, where any changes you try to make to the past are ultimately things you already knew from history before you tried. Near the end of the wedding episode (where they first used the Phoenix Gate at all) a young Demona returns to their castle to find Goliath under the stone spell, but modern Goliath appears and offers her a moment of comfort before returning to present day. Then modern Demona confirms she remembers it, but it did not affect what else happened over time to make her who she was today.
Angela is so pretty. Although, Leo the Lion Gargoyle and Una the unicorn, really?
All the London Clan gargoyles resemble creatures from heraldry. In the comics, we see a sow, stag and hippogriff, too.
Imagine gargoyles teaming up with captain America to fight against hydra
well time new gargoyles cartoon. set in past in middle ages. get answers so many questions reamain un answered. like were do all gargoyles came from? are demons are part dragons? back then did fight dragons?
it weird see her mom as good guy? know what going happen in future
2019 ????
1990-1995 I think somewhere in there 💞
Do you think that as Scottsmen from 994, Goliath and Hudson had any reaction to Scotland and England being part of one country now?
it was Gargoyle land long before it was Scotland. He likely wouldn't care.
@@michaelgreenwood3413Pretty much. They don't really think or care about borders or nations. They're only concerned with their clan's territory.
@@IgarappappaThe biggest problem with this Disney TV show is that the English language from before the Norman French invasion in the year 1066 A.D. would be unintelligible to a modern English speaker. Before the year 1066 A.D. the earlier version of the olde English language sounded very similar to the German language or the Dutch language or the Yiddish language or the Afrikaans language. After the Norman invasion in the year 1066 A.D. the English language started to sound less and less like a German Saxon dialect and more and more like a collection of incorrectly mispronounced medieval Norman French words (which is basically what the English language is today). Basically if you traveled back in time to London before the year 1066 A.D. you would need a German speaking person or a Dutch speaking person to help translate the Germanic words of the old English language into the mispronounced French words of modern English. In old English they use the word "Schwein" or "swine" for pig for example.
@@224dot0dot0dot10 The in-universe explanation is magic being cast by Demona on the Clan before they revived to prevent the language barrier and Avalon magic when they went they went on their World Tour. The out of universe explanation is just to prevent that problem dragging down the story.
Such a satisfying ending.
The first cartoon to open our eyes to the illuminati.
No, not really just folded as I'll come to understand time. any decision made by an one now an then just add's to the fabric of time booms that affect large ares are more damaging. Thinning the fabric but not for long it's very flexible . It's one of the reasons you can't step back in time every decision adds another wrinkle to the fabric.
She "knows her merchandise"? Is Weisman saying that there's a pair of gargoyles in London peddling *actual* magic in this universe? I feel as though this would strain the Masquerade...
It's possible she only sells encyclopedias on wicca and the like to ordinary folks whilst retaining the actual, potent stuff for personal use & to barter with the odd, fellow spell caster who strolls in aiming to trade. According to Greg Weisman vampires exist in the Gargverse, so, why not witch covens too? Probably a whole, underground community of UK broom fliers.
She doesn't sell anything real or the like.
@@Igarappappa Then it won't be merchandise, now would it? EDIT: Granted, it might just be to "specialty" clients...
@@Dragonlover553 There's a lot of info on the Gargwiki with links from Greg Weisman (creator) with extra info.
@@Igarappappa Reading it, and it says that they do in fact sell real magic, but that not everyone knows about it. So my specialty clientele guess was right.
Relevant Links:
gargwiki.net/Into_the_Mystic
www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=8677
Did they just destroyed the fabric of time
No.
They couldn’t change the past no matter what they did so the time continuum remained intact.
So the Nazi pilot is like..Okay man with wings...Ill shoot it down and never question what it was or be supicious in any way!
Nazis: not exactly known for questioning or being open-minded.
@@TheNoybusiness Much like anyone who still thinks like that, like MAGA or Ukraine invasion-supporting Russians.
@@michaelgreenwood3413you mean democrats
@@TheNoybusinessActually the German soldiers were famous for disobeying orders and being unpredictable in WW2 as part of "Auftragstaktik" (the Germans were even more random and totally unpredictable back in the day in ancient times when they were fighting against the more conservative and more predictable Roman soldiers at "the Battle of Teutoburg Forest" two thousand years ago in the year 9 A.D.). The problem for the Germans in World War 2 was that the Polish scientists and the British scientists had broken the cryptography on the Enigma machine (like in "The Imitation Game") so the allies were able to decrypt the German war plans and German military orders that were transmitted by the Enigma machine so the British intelligence agencies knew exactly what the German military units were ordered to do before they would do it, and the only way for the German military units to survive for a few years in combat with the British was to constantly disobey orders and constantly improvise new plans on the spot. General Rommel, for example, was famous for always doing something totally different than what he was ordered to do and the British knew what Rommel was ordered to do because the British had broken the Enigma machine encryption in the German communication systems.
@@heatherturner2366According to many historians, the German soldiers were famous for disobeying orders and being unpredictable in WW2 as part of "Auftragstaktik" (the Germans were even random and totally unpredictable back in the day in ancient times when they were fighting against the more conservative and more predictable Roman soldiers at "the Battle of Teutoburg Forest" two thousand years ago in the year 9 A.D.). The problem for the Germans in World War 2 was that the Polish scientists and the British scientists had broken the cryptography on the Enigma machine (like in "The Imitation Game") so the allies were able to decrypt the German war plans and German military orders that were transmitted by the Enigma machine so the British intelligence agencies knew exactly what the German military units were ordered to do before they would do it, and the only way for the German military units to survive for a few years in combat with the British was to constantly disobey orders and constantly improvise new plans on the spot. General Rommel, for example, was famous for always doing something totally different than what he was ordered to do and the British knew what Rommel was ordered to do because the British had broken the Enigma machine encryption in the German communication systems.
When this this tv series come out?
90's
Waaait.....so if Griff disappears from 1940...what changes?
I think peopel need to stop messing with time so much.
Nothing. All time travel is of the Stable variety, as seen here. History is immutable. There are no paradoxes, because the time traveler's actions are already part of the past.
Dragonlover553 Ooh
The boot strap paradox Google it
Correct, except that Goliath only goes back in time because they told Home he was there. Which is a cause/effect paradox.
He went back in time to see what happened, which didn’t happened until he went back. The cause of something cannot be itself.....
That’s the only flaw.
I don't believe the Phoenix Gate mirrors what we'd expect out of the Flash universe. Before, when Demona first used the artifact, she actually allowed the timeline to continue; David Xanatos told his father a 'mysterious donor' who sent him a gold coin AND a list of instructions to give Xanatos his wealth and power, simply by traveling back in time with Demona, Goliath and his newly-wed wife, Fox. Even Demona, who remembered her interactions with her Future Self, DID NOT change. However, even I don't believe fully that Time is a continuous loop.
That unicorn ggargoly looks like princee celita from mlp
Mustang. Reaper found you my lady.
So,
For Una. Will u hit it?
Ravage Gonza
Do you really have to ask?😏
Considering she's married to a huge lion-man who could probably kill me with one hand... no.
High five!!!!
There are not mask 2:09
I wish the gargoyles were more consistent in their features as the British gargoyles have completely different features to goliath as they literally have heads and body parts of animals.
Well Goliath and his clan are Scottish and probably older, while the English easily took over the Welsh and combined their own gargoyle beliefs
@@MB-ko3mr That's all Gargoyles. Different clans have different looks. Some more "human" looking than others. It's why Griff said Goliath looked like "Scottish stock". Some traits are more common to certain clans.
Gracias
If this came out today the right would try to cancel it for the ending being 'woke'.
What do you mean?
@@rustyrussell2537 Because it shows people being accepting of those different than them.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 that's funny because from my experience the majority of ring wingers are more accepting of differences than liberals.
@@rustyrussell2537 Clearly you haven't been to the US, then.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 Fun fact: I'm a native of the Missouri Ozarks and have lived here since birth.
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I exspected the wutang clan.
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Episode ?
Royal crest of Lion and Unicorn, I hate Pirates.
What Pirates?
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6:18 June 11 Tupac was right
The voices are to deep
Elisa sounds like a man with a sore throat.
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