Relax. You are in a safe city with nice population. Getting lost may be nerve wrecking, but not here, in former Yugoslavia. Have fun. Try local food and drinks. Make few friends.
@@JayandSarah You are doing the right thing. Best thing anyone can do is travel to new countries and explore different things. Life goes by fast, and you will always have the memories and stories to tell.
@@JayandSarah Many years ago, my now wife and few of her friends travelled through Europe on a train using Europass (Eurail now). For one price it offered unlimited number of rides. Get off/on as desired.
Yeah somehow we always seem to figure things out. We have had some hilarious times looking for our lodging in some locations. If you watch our first video on "Berat" if you have not seen it, a bit of a comedy trying to find the AirBnb. Google maps and Albania are not a very accurate combination! Thanks for keeping watching Charles!
I recomend Zemun,Ada Ciganjila for swimming in day (it has beaches) ,BElgrade waterfront for walking in evening ,Topcider Park ..if you have time you can go to Novi Sad ,second largest city in Serbia,35 minutes by train (Soko)
❤❤❤. Hey you two ! We are following your every moves and enjoying. Bravo !!! Keep the great information of your journeys coming our way. My son and I will be following your tracts around November and can’t wait !!! You two are a cute couple. Stay safe !!!!!!
The new highway is the first phase of the route that will go from Bar to the northernmost point of Montenegro and represents the most difficult section. THAT PROJECT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE THE OLD ROUTE WAS VERY DANGEROUS AND TOOK MANY LIVES AND IN WINTER IT IS A GAMBLING TO DRIVE THERE...As for the trains, there are modern trains on the local level, but for the international line, classic coupes are used, which is a better option than modern cars without partitions
Yes we have heard about the accidents and fatalities. Whether Montenegro has the money to finish the project anytime soon will be interesting for sure. Thanks for watching!
@@JayandSarah It will happen soon because now it is an easy section... There should also be a second highway from Croatia through Montenegro to Albania and Greece, and also an expressway on the same section but high above the sea.... The EU will give money. There is money, but there is no wisdom. If we didn't have constant attacks and political interference from Serbia since the nineties, we would already be in the EU and a much more advanced society.
Will be interesting to see what the future holds. Lovely country, we will be back. Once part of the EU, that will limit our stay options unfortunately. I think this is many years away still.
I love how fearless you guys are! I tend to feel panic when I'm lost (my sense of direction doesn't exist!) but you're right, somehow you manage to get where you're going. Can't wait to see what you see! ❤
During the pandemic I worked part time as a fedex express courier, so my sense of navigation is very good... but yes, when you are totally lost without google maps... it is a bit hard on the nerves, especially as the sun goes down and you need to find your place. Miraculously, we always seem to find where we are going. Not sure if it's dumb luck or what.
I took this train when I was a little girl with my parents. I remember we were going through the mountains all night long. Back then, we didn't change the trains and the whole ride was on a train that resembled the train from Montenegro and it was packed. People were sleeping on the floor as well. I'm surprised the Serbian train has no tables so people can eat. I think we should complain to Serbian Railways and ask them to change that.
There's really no tables to eat in either of them on the day train. On the Montenegro train, only the people by the window have a tiny table to put any food on. At least that section is not that long. Having essentially a commuter train on the Serbian side for over 7 hours is not very thoughtful for the people using it on a long distance. Is what it is. Thanks for watching!
We always book our stays in advance. The problem was our offline google map of Belgrade were not working so we were unsure how to locate the street we needed. Always we try to prepare the best we can, sometimes things don't quite go to plan but we adapt on the fly to figure it out. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@JayandSarah if you need any advice, I’m here for you, I am from Serbia but they live now in Miami for the past 10 years, previously in Germany for 30 years But my country is Serbia/Belgrade
@@JayandSarah I was not being 100% serious when I said the capital of the world. A lot of people say it's awesome for going out. Perhaps best in the region. Probably not the best in the whole of Europe... But definitely not the best in the world. Lived in Belgrade for 3-4 months and I was very impressed. Not sure I can name 25 cities that are better to be fair... Because I can name cities like Toronto, where perhaps you have more options, I'd not be walking 3-5 kilometers back home at night in Toronto. While in Belgrade even young girls are almost at no risk. Very safe! Good city! Could be better! Everyone has their own taste I guess! Great vid brother!
For sure I would say best nightlife in Balkans. I would also agree, very safe.. and very walkable. Thanks for the support, making videos about travel is not easy, it takes many hours of time.. and the payback is next to nothing. It is done for passion and sharing life experience. Cheers, Jay.
2:39 Road to Nowhere? Who could have guessed you're a Talking Heads fan! It is expensive cause it's all tunnels, canyons and bridges within the mountains but at least it will save many lives.
For few years,when Montenegro and Serbia completely finish this highway, which is extremely expensive and has a total length of about 500 km, it will be the fastest connection between Belgrade, the Mediterranean and Central Europe, it will save many lives and it will be much easier for people to travel between these two brotherly countries.
We don’t need a plan. We do whatever we like whenever we like and just go with it. You want to micro plan a perpetual trip around the world that never ends? Good luck with that!!!! We’ve got more travel planning skills than most, trust me. When you are in a position to travel the world non stop for a decade or more, reach out - we will offer you advice. Thanks for watching!!!
Don't worry, even serbs are confusing about those buses that are right outside of the exit and drivers are never helpful. If you are going to downtown, it's always better 41. You can pay with your credit card in the machines that are next to the bus driver. Or if you buy a serbian sim card, you can just send a msg to pay for your ticket. But 95% of the people don't pay the bus unless the bus kontrola comes and then you send msg in that moment.
Unfortunately it was on the other side of the car and people were sitting in those spaces and it was not realistic to pull the camera out. We are respectful of others first, film makers second. Thanks for watching, hope you still enjoyed! We have seen lots of lake Skadar.
You were tired, to say the least, after a long journey, but, why didn't you just pause at the very comfy BG railway station and get all the info you need right? You could've asked anybody as many times as you needed for clarification, people are very friendly there. And there should be free WiFi in the station! You were at the right bus stop! There are line numbers on the buses, and there are only a few lines there, so you just wait until your bus arrives. Bus drivers may be from Pakistan, India ... and not speak Serbian, or English. There is also a public transport app, and signs with current arrival times displays are at every stop. Very practical and easy to go about. If it was 36 you were in it and later it was behind your back. The one across the street had probably just arrived and was not at the proper bus stop. Next time, just stop for a moment and study the situation, it is as simple and as modern as elsewhere in Europe. In the end you were suggested to use the 41 trolley.
We did stop for a moment, as you say we were very tired. This is not our first rodeo on travelling. The initial information we were provided at the station was wrong, and we had to go back to find someone else who knew what they were talking about. Thanks for watching!
We needed Serbian Dinar right away, so your options are limited at the train station. We thought we would get a taxi until they quoted us rip off foreigner pricing and would not negotiate. This is standard practice all over the Balkans with foreigners. We did find other place afterwards with no fees. When you travel full time, you accept that ATM charges are part of your expense. In terms of our total annual costs to travel as expressed in banking fees, it is not significant enough to be concerned about.
@@paradoxofgodexistingCroatia is in the same rang but different coutry..Bosnia?Are u ok?Belgrade so far the best city in Balkan and his position etc etc..they need to see Sumadia Area then Western Serbia,East etc..
@@KARADJORDJIJE I was talking about the nature, cities are not beautiful if you ask me, but Sarajevo is also nicer than Belgrade... Yes, Belgrade is one of the gates of Europe, but that doesnt mean nice, if you go trough every street in Belgrade, its actually weird looking with no laws about building new glass building next the old one and new residental buildings are made cheaply and everyone cuts corners because the corruption is high here. Only a person who neverr travelled trough Europe would say Belgrade is the most beautiful. Only last summer, i was exploring the Trieste for whole day and i was thinking the whole city looks like the Belgrades city center, only cleaner and even nicer. Wait until you go and explore Ljubljana, Florence, Amsterdam... Belgrade is actually very ugly and it sucks saying it, because ive been here since birth, for 31 years, but Novi Sad is nicer, Niš is way nicer to live and the traffic is HORRIBLE in Belgrade, its so annoying to know every day the whole city is full of traffic jams. Did you even know that few years back, Belgrade was No.1 most polluted city in THE WORLD?
@@paradoxofgodexisting Hajde ne lup.j sr.m te bilo..cak i zivis u Beogradu tj verovatno si dodjos neki ko zna odakle cim tako pricas o gradu i Srbiji..nije super ali ima puno lepih mesta..koje Sarajevo?Bio sam tamo..ok je grad ali daleko od Bg po svemu..pa sto dolaze ti bosanci kod nas?Evo ostali da zive u Bg..sto se ne vrate tamo u Sarajevo?Jel im brani neko?Svi gradovi veliki imaju nedostatke pa i Beograd naravno.Da, treba da bude sredjeniji i cistiji i bolje organizovan u svemu ali bice i toga Jedan od najstarijih gradova u Evropi ako ne i najstariji
Ì am not sure I could cope with that train journey. Surprised, there are no refreshments/food on such a long journey. I take it there were toilets, what were they like, clean ? One thing do they allow smoking on the train as it must get really uncomfortable? Last question: Do you think it's a journey worth taking for its views 🤔
It is surprising that they don't have food/drink but the trains are just not designed for it. The Montenegro train had toilets that started off okay but became a filthy mess in just the short ride. The Serbian trains the toilet was in very good condition, clean and well stocked. Both trains are non smoking posted. On the Serbian train, nobody smokes. On the Montenegro one, people smoke down by the toilet. Is it worth it for the views... hmmm... the best views are only about 3 or 4 hours of the journey. It is one LONG train ride. I am glad we did it. Taking it back was a mistake we should have just flown back to Tivat. If you are on vacation and pressed for time, I would not suggest to spend that much time on this train. We have all the time in the world so to sit on it for all that time was no big deal.
2:18 Locals might call it the "road from nowhere to nowhere," but it does start on the outskirts of the capital and ends in Matesevo. After all, every road must begin somewhere. They chose this section because it was the most challenging to build. The problem is that the one-billion-dollar loan from the Export-Import Bank of China is a disaster, which is why Montenegro sought help from the EU. Despite this, they continued negotiating with China to build a sea highway. Corruption at its finest. Serbia will most likely complete their highway connection much sooner and at a much lower cost.
If it was just the first 2.5 hours out of Bar, highly recommend. The remaining time not so much. Not to be outdone, we punished ourselves by doing it a second time in reverse direction. Thanks for watching!!!! Jay & Sarah
We were quoted 1500 dinar from two separate taxis. This is around $19 CAD, $13 EURO or $14 USD. We always look at alternatives now at Train or Bus stations given our past experiences of being charged more than the standard local taxi rates.
Sure a nice train would be better but you have to go with what is available. It's a pretty authentic experience getting on the old train in Montenegro.
Best train ride? 😂 Guys, we HATE this specific route BG - BAR or vice versa.. When you travel in the evening there is a sleeper car, but this ride is sooooo bad.. There are often delays, and once delay happens it's hours upon hours. It's literally crazy how bad it is. To be fair, this train does go through hell of a mountains but still, it's pain in the ass :D
California’s Bullet-Train Fiasco : $20 Billion For 120 Miles? 9.8 bilion spent for 500m of tracks laid so far. Not a mile of tracks for 9.8 Billion spent so far and you talk about usless and sensless to the Chinese :) Lets hope you don't spend too much money in the Balkans and then trash us and cry how expencive it is.
@@JayandSarah Just one. The road is being used very much so. Its just one of those things in the new age where it costs 10x than it used to and some other failiures like in this railway project in US... 1billion compared to almost 10 is quite significat and nobody seems to talk about it 😆 but the Montenegro road gets the headlines in many balkan-monte documentaries and reports. The road will be in its second phase will start This september to finish part that connects with serbia. And while that is being builded the last one will also start.
@JayandSarah no one told you that quality is not associated with quantity, length, depth, volume..... 3 hours through Pyrénées is not enough for you? The highest station 🚉 is on 1502m.....
@@JayandSarah we need more than hope! Hope is not good enough, we are not dealing with human beings, those are money grabbing worshippers and war mongers...
The Balkans will teach you patience.
Relax. You are in a safe city with nice population. Getting lost may be nerve wrecking, but not here, in former Yugoslavia. Have fun. Try local food and drinks. Make few friends.
We had a nice time in Belgrade. Thanks for watching!
Yeah thats true
@@JayandSarah You are doing the right thing. Best thing anyone can do is travel to new countries and explore different things. Life goes by fast, and you will always have the memories and stories to tell.
@@samkitty5894 Absolutely! This is why we do it.
@@JayandSarah Many years ago, my now wife and few of her friends travelled through Europe on a train using Europass (Eurail now). For one price it offered unlimited number of rides. Get off/on as desired.
Welcome to Serbia and Belgrade!
Thank you! Lovely city!!
@@JayandSarah Have a good time!
Will do.
Really nice job on this video 👍👍
Thanks guys!!!
Thank you for recording your trip. Looking forward to check out your Belgrade stay.
Hard to make a video from a 10.5 hour train trip, but did the best we could! Belgrade is coming up in videos!
Welcome to my city. Good prople are always welcome in Belgrade. Have a great stay and come again.
Thank you! We enjoyed our time in Belgrade! Lovely city.
Great review! I'm so glad that you were lost and you figured out where to go. Well, this is what traveling is all about. Thank you so much!
Yeah somehow we always seem to figure things out. We have had some hilarious times looking for our lodging in some locations. If you watch our first video on "Berat" if you have not seen it, a bit of a comedy trying to find the AirBnb. Google maps and Albania are not a very accurate combination! Thanks for keeping watching Charles!
Wow !!! You two are amazing !
Thanks! Glad you are enjoying our videos!
You guys are pretty adventurous for a hostel in Belgrade. I hope you enjoyed your time there and look forward to the next video. Ciao!
Yeah it was no problem we enjoyed the place. Not many people thought it. More videos coming for sure!!! Thanks for watching.
Pozdrav from Beograd, Srbija
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Super video! Istina
Thank you so much!
That is my favourite trip.And it is amazing.
Nice!!!
Cool video..I was there milions times..thats the real Adventure😂
It's fun to travel and live in the Balkans for extended periods of time. It is very different to what we are used to. It is very nice.
I recomend Zemun,Ada Ciganjila for swimming in day (it has beaches) ,BElgrade waterfront for walking in evening ,Topcider Park ..if you have time you can go to Novi Sad ,second largest city in Serbia,35 minutes by train (Soko)
Thanks!!! Stay tuned, we have more videos from Belgrade to come!
Kalemegdan Of Course..great place and View and many other things
❤❤❤. Hey you two ! We are following your every moves and enjoying. Bravo !!! Keep the great information of your journeys coming our way. My son and I will be following your tracts around November and can’t wait !!! You two are a cute couple. Stay safe !!!!!!
The new highway is the first phase of the route that will go from Bar to the northernmost point of Montenegro and represents the most difficult section. THAT PROJECT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE THE OLD ROUTE WAS VERY DANGEROUS AND TOOK MANY LIVES AND IN WINTER IT IS A GAMBLING TO DRIVE THERE...As for the trains, there are modern trains on the local level, but for the international line, classic coupes are used, which is a better option than modern cars without partitions
Yes we have heard about the accidents and fatalities. Whether Montenegro has the money to finish the project anytime soon will be interesting for sure. Thanks for watching!
@@JayandSarah It will happen soon because now it is an easy section... There should also be a second highway from Croatia through Montenegro to Albania and Greece, and also an expressway on the same section but high above the sea.... The EU will give money. There is money, but there is no wisdom.
If we didn't have constant attacks and political interference from Serbia since the nineties, we would already be in the EU and a much more advanced society.
Will be interesting to see what the future holds. Lovely country, we will be back. Once part of the EU, that will limit our stay options unfortunately. I think this is many years away still.
@@JayandSarah for 4 y
Yes I read that is the objective.
I love how fearless you guys are! I tend to feel panic when I'm lost (my sense of direction doesn't exist!) but you're right, somehow you manage to get where you're going. Can't wait to see what you see! ❤
During the pandemic I worked part time as a fedex express courier, so my sense of navigation is very good... but yes, when you are totally lost without google maps... it is a bit hard on the nerves, especially as the sun goes down and you need to find your place. Miraculously, we always seem to find where we are going. Not sure if it's dumb luck or what.
It was have sleeper cabins before 20 years!
Yes on the night train there are sleeper cabins. On the day train there are none.
I took this train when I was a little girl with my parents. I remember we were going through the mountains all night long. Back then, we didn't change the trains and the whole ride was on a train that resembled the train from Montenegro and it was packed. People were sleeping on the floor as well. I'm surprised the Serbian train has no tables so people can eat. I think we should complain to Serbian Railways and ask them to change that.
There's really no tables to eat in either of them on the day train. On the Montenegro train, only the people by the window have a tiny table to put any food on. At least that section is not that long. Having essentially a commuter train on the Serbian side for over 7 hours is not very thoughtful for the people using it on a long distance. Is what it is. Thanks for watching!
we intend to copy all your travels 🙂
thanks for posting
Awesome! Hope the videos help you out a bit and show you what you can look forward to! We love the Balkans.
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Greetings to you in Indonesia! Glad you are enjoying our videos.
100 Workers died to build this route 😥🙏 Thank you for letting us know. This is dangerous work in the mountains.
Very much so!
Belgrade : the capital of my loving country yugoslavia ❤❤
Thanks for watching. Is now the capital of Serbia.
@@JayandSarah yeah
@@upadhl7732 is nice city!
You should just book ahead and you wouldn’t have any problems
Preparation is all
But you made it
We always book our stays in advance. The problem was our offline google map of Belgrade were not working so we were unsure how to locate the street we needed. Always we try to prepare the best we can, sometimes things don't quite go to plan but we adapt on the fly to figure it out. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@JayandSarah if you need any advice, I’m here for you, I am from Serbia but they live now in Miami for the past 10 years, previously in Germany for 30 years
But my country is Serbia/Belgrade
Thanks!!
Bro came to Belgrade, the world capital of night life. And said: "this town seems pretty alive at night."
I'm 51, I'm not looking for nightlife... but I can assure you, Belgrade is not even in the top 25 of cities in the world for nightlife.
@@JayandSarah I was not being 100% serious when I said the capital of the world. A lot of people say it's awesome for going out. Perhaps best in the region. Probably not the best in the whole of Europe... But definitely not the best in the world. Lived in Belgrade for 3-4 months and I was very impressed. Not sure I can name 25 cities that are better to be fair... Because I can name cities like Toronto, where perhaps you have more options, I'd not be walking 3-5 kilometers back home at night in Toronto. While in Belgrade even young girls are almost at no risk. Very safe! Good city! Could be better! Everyone has their own taste I guess! Great vid brother!
For sure I would say best nightlife in Balkans. I would also agree, very safe.. and very walkable. Thanks for the support, making videos about travel is not easy, it takes many hours of time.. and the payback is next to nothing. It is done for passion and sharing life experience. Cheers, Jay.
@@100nakpvp2ma misli na svet .po nocnom provodu u Evropi su dobri Berlin ,Beograd , Atina , Manchester,lisabon
@@JayandSarahne treba ni da bude poznat po nocnom zivotu jer sve se to radi uglavnom zbog turista i ta buka i guzva smeštaju grsdjanima Beograda
2:39 Road to Nowhere? Who could have guessed you're a Talking Heads fan! It is expensive cause it's all tunnels, canyons and bridges within the mountains but at least it will save many lives.
Yes the mountain terrain where they constructed this first part is very complicated for sure. Thanks for watching!
For few years,when Montenegro and Serbia completely finish this highway, which is extremely expensive and has a total length of about 500 km, it will be the fastest connection between Belgrade, the Mediterranean and Central Europe, it will save many lives and it will be much easier for people to travel between these two brotherly countries.
@@bane1506 zna on to dobro, al engleski mozak mora da se naruga drugome, to im je duševna hrana
that is when someone going somwhere without planing
We don’t need a plan. We do whatever we like whenever we like and just go with it. You want to micro plan a perpetual trip around the world that never ends? Good luck with that!!!! We’ve got more travel planning skills than most, trust me. When you are in a position to travel the world non stop for a decade or more, reach out - we will offer you advice. Thanks for watching!!!
Don't worry, even serbs are confusing about those buses that are right outside of the exit and drivers are never helpful. If you are going to downtown, it's always better 41. You can pay with your credit card in the machines that are next to the bus driver. Or if you buy a serbian sim card, you can just send a msg to pay for your ticket. But 95% of the people don't pay the bus unless the bus kontrola comes and then you send msg in that moment.
Absolutely!!!!
Not all ATM take commission. Yettel is one of them.
Good to know! We have found in some countries, yes there are exceptions and no fees for withdrawal.
If I had to redo my life it would be there.
The cit of Belgrade is very bustling with lots of shopping and food.
You missed to film the best part railroad going along the Skadar lake
Unfortunately it was on the other side of the car and people were sitting in those spaces and it was not realistic to pull the camera out. We are respectful of others first, film makers second. Thanks for watching, hope you still enjoyed! We have seen lots of lake Skadar.
@@JayandSarah and if you took the night train there had to be a sleeping car, which is way better experience
@@2fastnfurious4u but then we would not get the views in daylight and we wanted to record.
Zeleni venac ❤
Thanks!
You were tired, to say the least, after a long journey, but, why didn't you just pause at the very comfy BG railway station and get all the info you need right? You could've asked anybody as many times as you needed for clarification, people are very friendly there. And there should be free WiFi in the station!
You were at the right bus stop! There are line numbers on the buses, and there are only a few lines there, so you just wait until your bus arrives. Bus drivers may be from Pakistan, India ... and not speak Serbian, or English. There is also a public transport app, and signs with current arrival times displays are at every stop. Very practical and easy to go about.
If it was 36 you were in it and later it was behind your back. The one across the street had probably just arrived and was not at the proper bus stop.
Next time, just stop for a moment and study the situation, it is as simple and as modern as elsewhere in Europe.
In the end you were suggested to use the 41 trolley.
We did stop for a moment, as you say we were very tired. This is not our first rodeo on travelling. The initial information we were provided at the station was wrong, and we had to go back to find someone else who knew what they were talking about. Thanks for watching!
Why did you not do any research 0n no withdrawal fee ATMs in Serbia ?
We needed Serbian Dinar right away, so your options are limited at the train station. We thought we would get a taxi until they quoted us rip off foreigner pricing and would not negotiate. This is standard practice all over the Balkans with foreigners. We did find other place afterwards with no fees. When you travel full time, you accept that ATM charges are part of your expense. In terms of our total annual costs to travel as expressed in banking fees, it is not significant enough to be concerned about.
Prepare for a blast. Serbia is the most beautiful country in Balkans.
Thanks for watching!!!
Its not. I am from Serbia, but Croatia and Bosnia are more beautiful.
@@paradoxofgodexistingCroatia is in the same rang but different coutry..Bosnia?Are u ok?Belgrade so far the best city in Balkan and his position etc etc..they need to see Sumadia Area then Western Serbia,East etc..
@@KARADJORDJIJE I was talking about the nature, cities are not beautiful if you ask me, but Sarajevo is also nicer than Belgrade... Yes, Belgrade is one of the gates of Europe, but that doesnt mean nice, if you go trough every street in Belgrade, its actually weird looking with no laws about building new glass building next the old one and new residental buildings are made cheaply and everyone cuts corners because the corruption is high here. Only a person who neverr travelled trough Europe would say Belgrade is the most beautiful. Only last summer, i was exploring the Trieste for whole day and i was thinking the whole city looks like the Belgrades city center, only cleaner and even nicer. Wait until you go and explore Ljubljana, Florence, Amsterdam... Belgrade is actually very ugly and it sucks saying it, because ive been here since birth, for 31 years, but Novi Sad is nicer, Niš is way nicer to live and the traffic is HORRIBLE in Belgrade, its so annoying to know every day the whole city is full of traffic jams. Did you even know that few years back, Belgrade was No.1 most polluted city in THE WORLD?
@@paradoxofgodexisting Hajde ne lup.j sr.m te bilo..cak i zivis u Beogradu tj verovatno si dodjos neki ko zna odakle cim tako pricas o gradu i Srbiji..nije super ali ima puno lepih mesta..koje Sarajevo?Bio sam tamo..ok je grad ali daleko od Bg po svemu..pa sto dolaze ti bosanci kod nas?Evo ostali da zive u Bg..sto se ne vrate tamo u Sarajevo?Jel im brani neko?Svi gradovi veliki imaju nedostatke pa i Beograd naravno.Da, treba da bude sredjeniji i cistiji i bolje organizovan u svemu ali bice i toga
Jedan od najstarijih gradova u Evropi ako ne i najstariji
If you want a scenic drive is great if you want to get from Podgorica to Belgrade or the other way around its the slowest train ride in Europe
Yes I bet the drive would be very lovely as well.
@@JayandSarah I take the plane for a long time now
Ì am not sure I could cope with that train journey. Surprised, there are no refreshments/food on such a long journey. I take it there were toilets, what were they like, clean ? One thing do they allow smoking on the train as it must get really uncomfortable?
Last question: Do you think it's a journey worth taking for its views 🤔
It is surprising that they don't have food/drink but the trains are just not designed for it. The Montenegro train had toilets that started off okay but became a filthy mess in just the short ride. The Serbian trains the toilet was in very good condition, clean and well stocked. Both trains are non smoking posted. On the Serbian train, nobody smokes. On the Montenegro one, people smoke down by the toilet. Is it worth it for the views... hmmm... the best views are only about 3 or 4 hours of the journey. It is one LONG train ride. I am glad we did it. Taking it back was a mistake we should have just flown back to Tivat. If you are on vacation and pressed for time, I would not suggest to spend that much time on this train. We have all the time in the world so to sit on it for all that time was no big deal.
why have you done that to yourself? ghaha thanks for video :)
Exactly, right? Hahahah.
You are crazy 😂😂😂
Hahahah! Perhaps a bit!!!
2:18 Locals might call it the "road from nowhere to nowhere," but it does start on the outskirts of the capital and ends in Matesevo. After all, every road must begin somewhere. They chose this section because it was the most challenging to build. The problem is that the one-billion-dollar loan from the Export-Import Bank of China is a disaster, which is why Montenegro sought help from the EU. Despite this, they continued negotiating with China to build a sea highway. Corruption at its finest. Serbia will most likely complete their highway connection much sooner and at a much lower cost.
Great details thanks for more information! I did a fair bit of research to hopefully some insight right. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I enjoy watching your journey but that train experience won’t be on my list. Lol. Enjoy your new location
If it was just the first 2.5 hours out of Bar, highly recommend. The remaining time not so much. Not to be outdone, we punished ourselves by doing it a second time in reverse direction. Thanks for watching!!!! Jay & Sarah
The taxi would not have been expensive guys....around 1000 dinars, would have been only $10 for all of you...
We were quoted 1500 dinar from two separate taxis. This is around $19 CAD, $13 EURO or $14 USD. We always look at alternatives now at Train or Bus stations given our past experiences of being charged more than the standard local taxi rates.
Scenic, yes. But the train is really bad and old. From the 1970s. It would be nice if this were a new train.
Sure a nice train would be better but you have to go with what is available. It's a pretty authentic experience getting on the old train in Montenegro.
Sarah seems much more sanguine than you are. Chill out Jay. 😁
We are yin and yang!!
Best train ride? 😂 Guys, we HATE this specific route BG - BAR or vice versa.. When you travel in the evening there is a sleeper car, but this ride is sooooo bad.. There are often delays, and once delay happens it's hours upon hours. It's literally crazy how bad it is. To be fair, this train does go through hell of a mountains but still, it's pain in the ass :D
It is a pain to take I agree. The view is worth the suffering in life once.
Hey guys spend some more money in Serbia dont be such money savers 😂😂😂😂😂
We always look for cost savings. Keep in mind, we are not on vacation!
@@JayandSarah 🤣🤣🤣that is why you come from Empire
@@NenadGajić-s3t I come from immigrants with nothing.
California’s Bullet-Train Fiasco : $20 Billion For 120 Miles?
9.8 bilion spent for 500m of tracks laid so far. Not a mile of tracks for 9.8 Billion spent so far and you talk about usless and sensless to the Chinese :)
Lets hope you don't spend too much money in the Balkans and then trash us and cry how expencive it is.
The context was ROADS, not RAILWAYS.
@@JayandSarah both are for transit so it doesnt matter. Its basicaly the same.
Were my facts incorrect?
@@JayandSarah Just one. The road is being used very much so. Its just one of those things in the new age where it costs 10x than it used to and some other failiures like in this railway project in US... 1billion compared to almost 10 is quite significat and nobody seems to talk about it 😆 but the Montenegro road gets the headlines in many balkan-monte documentaries and reports. The road will be in its second phase will start This september to finish part that connects with serbia. And while that is being builded the last one will also start.
Train jeune is the best, not this trashtrain from ex yugo
Looks nice, but it's shorter than my hair, and I'm almost bald. Thanks for watching.
@JayandSarah no one told you that quality is not associated with quantity, length, depth, volume..... 3 hours through Pyrénées is not enough for you? The highest station 🚉 is on 1502m.....
I'm sure it would be lovely, we might get a change to check it out.
@@JayandSarah recommended 👌
@@JayandSarah BTW I didn't watch this video, I know what is about. Yes the nature is nice, but those exyugo torturetrains not worthy to watch
And all that nature (together with every living creature including us) will disappear if EU and Rio Tinto start mining lithium. 😱😱😱😭😭😭😡😡😡
Let's hope not! We want our children and grandchildren to enjoy the planet!
@@JayandSarah we need more than hope! Hope is not good enough, we are not dealing with human beings, those are money grabbing worshippers and war mongers...