I have an Alpinestars boulder GTX jacket for over 2 years now and am very happy with it. Drove it through days of heavy rain in Scotland and Norway and it kept me absolutely dry. The only slightly negative for me is the weight of the jacket, i.e. it's not light. But that's just a minor issue for a jacket that keeps me really dry and warm when it has to.
I have been wearing an Alpinestars "Tech Touring" Gore Tex jacket for the past few years, similarly priced to yours, and I am happy to say it has been faultless throughout numerous wet weather rides. One ride in particular with torrential rain from Armidale through Dorrigo and down to South West Rocks it certainly proved its worth. (the jacket has never been washed and dried, just wiped over to remove bugs etc a few times)
Not sure if I heard correctly - but I believe the correct / best way to not get water in gloves and up sleeves is to have long gloves under your sleeve and tighten down. Normally the angle of your wrist to hand is sloping down - so water runs over glove. I have Klim Carlsbad jacket and Mosko Basilik pants - both waterproof - unless any ingress gaps (neck or up sleeves or up under waist). If you TechWash (NikNak) IF dirty and then usually put in gentle / low warm dryer to reactive the DWD water proof on the outer fabric. I agree the Gortex layer should not leak
I honestly believe what I've experienced, and also heard, many times - nothing is waterproof if you ride through heavy rain for long enough! I think the fact that you were even slightly wet on this experiment just means that if you'd ridden another hour you would have been soaked. I bought a Dri Rider ADV jacket about 5 years ago and it is just about as good as my friend's KLIM, but if I face heavy rain I'll throw an overjacket on.
Ive just had a call from a suppoter and he explained to me on how to treat the jacket for this issue so ill be doing another upload in tbe future as how to treat outer skin ....and correct i maintain ide be soaked in even a few hours cheers for comment mr cranky
Great video bud, I've always been hesitant to spend big on ADV jackets in fear they may under-deliver. I think the best way to deal with heavy rain like we're having now is the over-suit rain coats. They proved themselves when we headed south to the Bridal on day 1. My Komine gear has been brilliant the last few years but I'm now looking at something else, something rain resistant but will still have that added wet weather protection over the top.
I here you i hate putting rain gear over the top its kinda why did i buy this jacket if you have to do it ...I simply dont trust the jacket enough to not take rain gear now cheers mate
Hey Mark, great videos, I’m the guy you met at Flat Rock on Saturday. Can’t wait to see your next upload. Oh yeah as mentioned by channels are Lugepunk (all my luging vids) and Philbo’s Adventures my newer vids. You’re a great guy in person!
Main issue with Gortex is it doesn't breathe well. Darwin is very hot /humid. Could the water have been sweat/perspiration rather than the rain getting through?.
I wouldn't put it in the drier. They tell you, in the instructions, not to do that. It would likely void any warranty. That jacket looks like a Ketchum. I just bought one of those the other day. I hope mine doesn't leak.
I ride with Klim Badlands- never had a problem BUT like all gortex M/C gear every time it is cleaned- in my case professionally as my machine is too small- I also have the suit reproofed - You mentioned using a dryer- I have been told that this is a NO NO - should be air dried- Just a few thoughts. PS Since I purchased my Klim the new price is now astronomical in comparison to the Alpinestar or the like products. Cheers Grant
Funny there is mixed messages on the dryer ...ive not yet sealed jacket as i didnt know you had to and thats more than likely my problem ive got nikwax products coming ill do an upload on that fingers xsed cheers for comment legend
Just for reference my Colmar ski jacket and pants that are over 20k water resistance, it says on the label inside that you have to iron the outside after washing and drying if you want to return the factory water proofing, that i was shit scared of doing but after i did it actualy repeled everything. So my guess is that you always want to read the little label on the inside how to handle this stuf, cheers.
It is not ok, that type of rain you drove through, you should be bone dry. I have a held gortex jacket and I only get 1 spot in the bend of my elbow, but it has to rain like noah's arc for it to be there. Normal rain, doesn't leak at all.
Mate, it all depends where the Gortex is in the jacket and if the outer shell is waterproof and if water is getting inside through other means (eg, down the back of your neck). I have a Triumph branded Adv jacket purchased in 2013, the outer shell is waterproof, one day when travelling in Tasmania in 2020 just before the pandemic hit, it bucketed down rain the whole day but I was dry as on the inside. More recently, I purchased a Revit Vertical GTX Jacket (4 seasons), I just had to have a waterproof outer shell (Gortex) and again, it has proved to definitely keep me dry as on the inside. IMO, waterproof removeable inner liners are a waste of effort, time and just aren't up to the task - when it stops raining and you want to remove the inner lining because it's 32 degrees but the outer jacket is soaked, come-on man, it's just BS. On the more budget friendly side, my partner has a Dririder Adv jacket with a removable thermal liner but non-removal waterproof liner and it works perfectly and it's not Gortex. Not sure if being out on the bike for 30 minutes in the rain is a true test of waterproof. From my experiences, you really need to be out in the rain for several hours to determine just how good waterproof the gear truly is, either a jacket of itself or the rain jacket you put over your jacket.
I think the problem with this jacket the outer jacket doesnt repeal water at all it soaks it in ...you can actually feel the water come through the arms not down the neck been riding 40 years and know that this thing isnt worth $950 on the label say 100% waterproof its simply not so ill be doing another upload on it soon ..on a nikwax coating as a follower does just that so ill give that a go cheers for comment
Nothing is waterproof if been drenched at speed for long enough, had to do a full day must do riding in torrential non stop rain for 7 hours straight just to catch my ferry crossing for home a couple of years ago. Completely soaked thru every layer including the waterproof layers and it didn't matter one little bit what the waterproof layer was, hell even the top inside of my helmet was completely soaked thru, mine you the west coast of the south island of New Zealand has a very well deserved reputation when it comes to heavy rain fall amounts.
On a 7 hour trip in that type of rain this jacket I would of been soaked 20mins in not sure how long your gear held up ?? If this jacket held up for 5. 6 hours youde be stoked on a 7 hour trip like that ive only ever had 1 jacket that held up an Rjay i wore it out i rode from port stephens to melbourn the day the pasha bulker ground in Newcastle that weather was nuts horrizonal rain i only paid $230 for that jacket cheers for comment legend
I thought I would stop being a tight arse and buy a Klim adventure suit, went to the shop tried it on, and then my tights arse thoughts came back nah I can’t justify dropping $2000 on jacket and pants with not great protection,
Ide say 100% would leak or get soaked if riding for hours as some water got in that ride was about an hour ...the storm i rode in when in Darwin was hard rain but started leaking fairly quickly ....ill nikwax the jacket and do another upload in the future and look out for heavy rain cheers for comment
I have an Alpinestars boulder GTX jacket for over 2 years now and am very happy with it. Drove it through days of heavy rain in Scotland and Norway and it kept me absolutely dry. The only slightly negative for me is the weight of the jacket, i.e. it's not light. But that's just a minor issue for a jacket that keeps me really dry and warm when it has to.
I have been wearing an Alpinestars "Tech Touring" Gore Tex jacket for the past few years, similarly priced to yours, and I am happy to say it has been faultless throughout numerous wet weather rides. One ride in particular with torrential rain from Armidale through Dorrigo and down to South West Rocks it certainly proved its worth. (the jacket has never been washed and dried, just wiped over to remove bugs etc a few times)
Does jacket repel the water ? Mine is like a sponge ill be putting a spray on it I think
@@throttleridingadventures Yes it does, I'm very happy with it. Good luck sorting yours out
Not sure if I heard correctly - but I believe the correct / best way to not get water in gloves and up sleeves is to have long gloves under your sleeve and tighten down. Normally the angle of your wrist to hand is sloping down - so water runs over glove. I have Klim Carlsbad jacket and Mosko Basilik pants - both waterproof - unless any ingress gaps (neck or up sleeves or up under waist). If you TechWash (NikNak) IF dirty and then usually put in gentle / low warm dryer to reactive the DWD water proof on the outer fabric. I agree the Gortex layer should not leak
Thanks for that great advise over the ph today ill grab that nikwax and record proccess cheers
I honestly believe what I've experienced, and also heard, many times - nothing is waterproof if you ride through heavy rain for long enough!
I think the fact that you were even slightly wet on this experiment just means that if you'd ridden another hour you would have been soaked.
I bought a Dri Rider ADV jacket about 5 years ago and it is just about as good as my friend's KLIM, but if I face heavy rain I'll throw an overjacket on.
Ive just had a call from a suppoter and he explained to me on how to treat the jacket for this issue so ill be doing another upload in tbe future as how to treat outer skin ....and correct i maintain ide be soaked in even a few hours cheers for comment mr cranky
Great video bud, I've always been hesitant to spend big on ADV jackets in fear they may under-deliver. I think the best way to deal with heavy rain like we're having now is the over-suit rain coats. They proved themselves when we headed south to the Bridal on day 1. My Komine gear has been brilliant the last few years but I'm now looking at something else, something rain resistant but will still have that added wet weather protection over the top.
I here you i hate putting rain gear over the top its kinda why did i buy this jacket if you have to do it ...I simply dont trust the jacket enough to not take rain gear now cheers mate
Hey Mark, great videos, I’m the guy you met at Flat Rock on Saturday. Can’t wait to see your next upload. Oh yeah as mentioned by channels are Lugepunk (all my luging vids) and Philbo’s Adventures my newer vids. You’re a great guy in person!
Cheers legrnd
Main issue with Gortex is it doesn't breathe well. Darwin is very hot /humid. Could the water have been sweat/perspiration rather than the rain getting through?.
Wasnt hot and just and just started the ride it happend in nundle as well in the cold thats when i sent jacket away to be tested
that wouldnt stay dry for a single day in Engerland mate.. Try Rukka..
I wouldn't put it in the drier.
They tell you, in the instructions, not to do that.
It would likely void any warranty.
That jacket looks like a Ketchum.
I just bought one of those the other day.
I hope mine doesn't leak.
Bit sad mate I have a Klim Gortex Jacket and it is great in wet weather Like you I bought it the same reason.
I ride with Klim Badlands- never had a problem BUT like all gortex M/C gear every time it is cleaned- in my case professionally as my machine is too small- I also have the suit reproofed - You mentioned using a dryer- I have been told that this is a NO NO - should be air dried- Just a few thoughts. PS Since I purchased my Klim the new price is now astronomical in comparison to the Alpinestar or the like products. Cheers Grant
Funny there is mixed messages on the dryer ...ive not yet sealed jacket as i didnt know you had to and thats more than likely my problem ive got nikwax products coming ill do an upload on that fingers xsed cheers for comment legend
Just for reference my Colmar ski jacket and pants that are over 20k water resistance, it says on the label inside that you have to iron the outside after washing and drying if you want to return the factory water proofing, that i was shit scared of doing but after i did it actualy repeled everything.
So my guess is that you always want to read the little label on the inside how to handle this stuf, cheers.
It is not ok, that type of rain you drove through, you should be bone dry. I have a held gortex jacket and I only get 1 spot in the bend of my elbow, but it has to rain like noah's arc for it to be there. Normal rain, doesn't leak at all.
@@fallenwout good to know cheers
Mate, it all depends where the Gortex is in the jacket and if the outer shell is waterproof and if water is getting inside through other means (eg, down the back of your neck). I have a Triumph branded Adv jacket purchased in 2013, the outer shell is waterproof, one day when travelling in Tasmania in 2020 just before the pandemic hit, it bucketed down rain the whole day but I was dry as on the inside. More recently, I purchased a Revit Vertical GTX Jacket (4 seasons), I just had to have a waterproof outer shell (Gortex) and again, it has proved to definitely keep me dry as on the inside. IMO, waterproof removeable inner liners are a waste of effort, time and just aren't up to the task - when it stops raining and you want to remove the inner lining because it's 32 degrees but the outer jacket is soaked, come-on man, it's just BS. On the more budget friendly side, my partner has a Dririder Adv jacket with a removable thermal liner but non-removal waterproof liner and it works perfectly and it's not Gortex. Not sure if being out on the bike for 30 minutes in the rain is a true test of waterproof. From my experiences, you really need to be out in the rain for several hours to determine just how good waterproof the gear truly is, either a jacket of itself or the rain jacket you put over your jacket.
I think the problem with this jacket the outer jacket doesnt repeal water at all it soaks it in ...you can actually feel the water come through the arms not down the neck been riding 40 years and know that this thing isnt worth $950 on the label say 100% waterproof its simply not so ill be doing another upload on it soon ..on a nikwax coating as a follower does just that so ill give that a go cheers for comment
Nothing is waterproof if been drenched at speed for long enough, had to do a full day must do riding in torrential non stop rain for 7 hours straight just to catch my ferry crossing for home a couple of years ago. Completely soaked thru every layer including the waterproof layers and it didn't matter one little bit what the waterproof layer was, hell even the top inside of my helmet was completely soaked thru, mine you the west coast of the south island of New Zealand has a very well deserved reputation when it comes to heavy rain fall amounts.
On a 7 hour trip in that type of rain this jacket I would of been soaked 20mins in not sure how long your gear held up ?? If this jacket held up for 5. 6 hours youde be stoked on a 7 hour trip like that ive only ever had 1 jacket that held up an Rjay i wore it out i rode from port stephens to melbourn the day the pasha bulker ground in Newcastle that weather was nuts horrizonal rain i only paid $230 for that jacket cheers for comment legend
Scott rain jacket , can’t go wrong
Those things are awesome.
They are brilliant wind stoppers too.
I thought I would stop being a tight arse and buy a Klim adventure suit, went to the shop tried it on, and then my tights arse thoughts came back nah I can’t justify dropping $2000 on jacket and pants with not great protection,
Holy shit 2k f.....that
Should’ve bought the quality Rukka gear: now you’ll have to buy twice.
Ill be uploading another vide soon ive purchased nikwax cleaner and repeal spray see if that works
@@throttleridingadventures good luck
you were riding in a light shower, in the NT you were in a major storm so there is a difference. I dont think your test went well to prove a point
Ide say 100% would leak or get soaked if riding for hours as some water got in that ride was about an hour ...the storm i rode in when in Darwin was hard rain but started leaking fairly quickly ....ill nikwax the jacket and do another upload in the future and look out for heavy rain cheers for comment
See Ryan,s fortnine review on goretex = not very promising at all it seems . John 3::16 .
@@peterday9054 yeh ive seen that upload