Penn State is not facing a typical Pac-12 team in the Rose Bowl, semifinal keys, Heisman thoughts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ต.ค. 2024
- PennLive's David Jones and Bob Flounders give their initial thoughts on the college semifinal playoff games (Ohio State-Georgia, Michigan TCU). Jones discusses worthy candidates in this year's Heisman Trophy race. And the Utah team that Penn State will face in Pasadena is not your typical Pac-12 squad, which is a good thing.
Utah fan here. Very excited that my team gets to play such an outstanding and storied program as Penn State. Very fair assessment of the Pac-12 and Utah. Cam Rising as a soft spoken biker gang leader is a funny way to describe him. But not incorrect. Looking forward to a full 60 minutes of great ball at the granddaddy of them all. Good luck and nice channel!
It’ll be an entertaining game. Utah fans, and our team are gonna show up. Glad we’re finally playing worthy opponents. This game could go either way. Good luck Nittany Lions. Go Utes
Dave: Really impressed with your knowledge and memory of Utah's rise since 2003/ Urban Meyer/ Urban Liar, and how Whittingham has built a culture like a cross between a Humvee and a Corvette. Wow, man, you know football.
Impressed how well you knew Utahs background. Only thing I’d say you missed is Tyler Huntley at QB was a solid QB who helped Utahs offense find identity.
I have respected Penn St as a program my entire life so getting the chance to actually see them play my team at the Rose Bowl is almost surreal. This should prove to be a very good game...
I am looking forward to seeing PSU play a solid program we have not seen them play before. Should be a good game
Agreed 100% it's kinda cool we have never played before
I agree, I am a die hard Nittany Lions fan, but like Utah and your style of play!!! Definitely, like a big ten team, no doubt!!! It will be a great challenge for my Nittany Lions 🦁!!! WE ARE
You two have good chemistry - always entertaining and informative - nicely done
There's a lot of physical teams in the pac-12 this year and they're going to show out in the bowl season.
I hope so, it makes for some fun watching!
Yeah this guy is a 🤡,who made this video he has Big10 bias, the Pac12 had 6 teams ranked in the top 20 more then any other conference 😂
Went to Utah in the late 90's. I'm so excited to play Penn State. Your football program is legendary. I hope it's a great game. I want Utah of course. Thanks for the fun today!
Utah is what Michigan wants to be.. Big, Physical, Tough, Athletic and Balanced
Bro what? Michigan is undefeated and very physical what r u talking about
@@billnyedoesminecraftjoseph8379 they aren't balanced or athletic
@@billnyedoesminecraftjoseph8379 we played a 1 and 1 with Jim's Wolverines and beat them both times with a lesser team! (remember Jake Butt!) we also hold the series lead against Michigan 3-1. hehe
Michigan has better athletes at multiple positions, particularly at running back and receiver. They could match Utah’s physicality and then out-athlete them to win by double digits.
@@stevenw7623 naaah...michigan is slow and unathletic
You guys are funny, I'll give you that! Thanks for posting.
The way Utah bludgeoned USC concerns me. This looks to be a physical team similar to Michigan, against whom the Lions got manhandled. That said, I'm happy that they're not going back to the Cotton Bowl against friggin' Tulane.
Gonna find out...
Penn State would bludgeon USC's Defense. Utah. Is a very opponent. USC not so much.
First of all, my Nittany Lions are a far different team in a good way from Ann Arbor in October!!! If, you guys have watched we have gotten better and better and young talent getting crucial experience is huge!!! We are far better than the team that went into the big house, I promise you that!!! WE ARE!!! Utah is really good as well, it will probably be the best bowl game of all!!! Go Nittany Lions 🦁!!!! 🦁
@@kevinchandler179 Utah is also a better team than played Ohio State last year in the Rose Bowl without a secondary. What scares me as a Utah fan is that we start slow. against a formattable Penn state team that also plays smash mouth football like we do it's hard to claw back into the game if you get down on the scoreboard.
@@billmann5255 You don't know that. This USC O-line has stood their ground on decent teams. It's not like they didn't play anyone. This Utah D-line made them look like fools in the end. I'm not saying this is going to happen against a Big 10 team. I'm just saying, don't be so sure.
The Wisconson comparison was spot on. But Washington and Oregon might not like the candy ass comparison!
Then they shouldn't be candy asses
Utah fan here. Very excited for this game. My next door neighbor is Penn State alum. We're both concerned about the outcome of this game, but excited to see it. Even though we live in SoCal, neither of us can afford to go to this game. We've decided to have a Rose Bowl watch party at one of our houses. Go Utes!!!
Don’t be, you guys are better than us. Penn States goal this game will be to lose by less than 3 scores.
Utah has always been an aggressively defensive team, and their afterburners hit hard once halftime is over. It should be a fantastic game!
Honestly, as a UCLA fan, I believe the Utes are going to pummel the Nittany Lions. Cam is one of the very best college qbs, and I hope he gets a shot at the NFL after next year.
You need a big time Quarterback to win these games- I am a Penn State fan but sorry I just do not feel that Clifford can pull off the kind of performance required to win this game- The missed opportunities and the fact Penn St has an average QB vs Extroidinary QB will the difference. I hope to be in the house, it should be a good game.
I was looking forward to mor commentary and analysis on the Rose Bowl Game. That's where we are going
He says the rest of the PAC12 is soft. How does he explain the gators terrible loss to Oregon State? SEC is often times overrated.
I love your Podcast and look forward to it every week!
i don't think Utah can win missing their top two TE's and all-American CB, not to mention their big RB that had 20+ TD's last year. they are playing a QB at RB now...
Utes just got a committed 6'4" DB from Ole Miss today. Miles Battle. We shall see next year. GO UTES!
I remember Chris Campbell WR was #11. Best known for having a staph infection of his pelvic bone while Engram & Scott were tearing it up on the field.
Utah fan here... excellent analysis! SC is soft and has been for a long time. Will say this... teams in the PAC 10ish... get beat-up and usually end up with injuries after playing Utah - affecting play the following week. Safe travels to Penn State and Utah fans to and from the game! GO UTES... and GO TULANE!
Go Utes! Great take on the Utes and Pac-12. Excited to play against Penn State. Watch out for the Utes. We'll punch you guys in the mouth, and then help you up. Looking forward to this game. Two great teams, lots to play for. Best of luck!
Candy assed league 😂 I’m a Ute fan and I love that take.
What is a typical pac 12 team? Would that be more like wazzu or washington?
Goes to show how they see it. Simple fact of the matter they really don't pay attention when we do beat one of their teams anyway. They just shrug it off like it was a fluke.
Utah fan, Excited for the Rose Bowl. and playing Penn St. for the first time.
It should be fun. Congrats to Penn St. also.
Penn St. and Ohio State got some big time help from the Utes, I hope the karma helps us.
Penn state is in Trouble
John Bruno,Chris Campbell and Sam Gash all wore #11.
Oregon state just blew out Florida 30-3 nice win for a candy ass team?
oregon state would do the same to penn sate
@@willl7780 Yeah Penn state is overrated
Spot on! The Big 10 is far superior to the PAC 12. Coz the Big 10's got Maryland, Indiana, Rutgers, a 3 and 6 Michigan State...(shall I keep going?), a lucky Purdue team, an average Illinois, Iowa, and Minnesota...(should I keep going?), a 4 and 5 Wisconsin, a fragile Northwestern, and Nebraska. Oh, and I almost forgot a Penn State that only beat one team with a winning record during the season. Ya, that's a major flex right there. There's no way that the Big 10 has two teams in the playoffs just because those two teams have large fan bases in heavily populated areas. No, no way.
penn state has not beat a ranked opponent lol...
Utah is way better than us in all aspects. Their passing game is better, their run defense is better, their pass defense is better, and they are a far more physical team than we are. They beat a top ranked USC team twice in the same season. Penn state has beaten nobody, and lost both of their big games. Their running game was non existent against Michigan, and equally non existent against Ohio State. I am not looking forward to watching that game as a Penn state fan. I am projecting at least a 21 point blowout.
"The Housman" doesn't mean anything, as soon as they gave that 'THING" to Johnny A-HOLE" over Shaquan Barkley they diminished that Trophy.
C'mon guys, flag football? Oregon did beat Ohio State last season, and Utah would have in the Rose Bowl if they were not depleted in the secondary. ( Utah was using a running back as a DB) Oregon also played Auburn tough and bearly loosing a few years back to start off a season, they ended up winning the PAC12 that year. Now, I'm not going to argue this PAC12 is a slightly lower level league than the BIG 10 overall simply because of population especially back in the day when all these SEC and big 10, big 12 teams were cheating and paying players before it was legal. We all know this was happening back then and these further east coast and mid U.S. teams got a jump on the west coast just for that reason. population, money, TV dollars. But now at this point, just because Lincoln Riley is coaching USC and they are all offense and no defense doesn't make the whole league soft. That's a stretch. Of course Utah is the least soft. This goes without saying. But even tho that being the case, Utah has struggled to get to were they are because of teams like Oregon, Washington and USC playing good football in certain years. Washington State and Oregon State play tough but as you say they don't have the players. But the reason the PAC12 doesn't stack up all the time is simply money. Lets be real. It just is what it is that way. Don't dog on the poor now.
I loved these guys soo true spot on! PAC12 is a candy a$$ league 😂 utah is different and built different.
I think it's because they were in the MWC for so long, like BYU. They play true to form football.
except most of the time the pac 12 wins our head to heads lol...
Utah also had Eric Weddle on defense.
You guys are confusing: you say Utah doesn’t play ‘candy-ass’ but they gave up how many points to USC - 66 in the 2 games… 42 in the first game? … and 44 to the Bruins?
USC is an all offense team there's a reason they were #4 UCLA was just a rough game
Theses dudes are a joke, Oregon state just blew out Florida an SEC team 30 -3 and the PAC 12 is a candy ass league, the Big 10 is overrated, Utah will beat overrated soft Penn State who haven’t beaten anyone all year 🤣🤡
Playoff game just ended, TCU beats Michigan... let the whining begin!!!
The PAC 12 has always been a soft league. But Utah physical is not the same as Michigan or SEC physical. Even if Penn State wins, Jones won't give them any credit. He'll just say that Bowl games don't matter, transfers, opt outs....blah, blah, blah.
Ask harbaugh or saban about that. Utah has beat michigan the last 3 times they played and smacked the hell out of bama when they played them
@@222valas The past time was 2015 in Harbaugh's first game. The Bama game was 2008. Don't think those results are relevant. I talking about this year.
@@therealzeel3081 K. Whittingham has always been a trenches, physical, defensive coach. That's how he got Utah in the PAC 12. What was lacking were the recruits. He couldn't get the top star recruits. Now with exposure and consistency, he's starting to attract those players. Watch and wait. We love it as Utah fans. We have been building from the ground up. And now, we're going to smash Penn State. Go Utes!
@TheRealZeel it was but let's not disparage that michigan team they went 160-14 over the next 5 games.
You mean 4 and 5 star recruits are not the same as 2 and 3 star recruits? duh? Utah is finally loading their team with the 4 star recruits Oregon and Washington has been getting for years now. Utah has been doing it with 3 star guys for a long time and getting better.
When you say "a typical pac 12 team" I automatically know you didn't play football for long. Nor are a student of the game. What exactly do you mean by "typical"??
Utah is one of the most underrated teams in the nation. USC is currently building another dynasty. So please explain exactly what you mean by "typical pac 12 team"? As far as I know and see (after 17 yrs as a player and 10 as a coach so far) no coach ever recruits players because of the conference they play in. Every coach recruits the best players they can get. You're not playing a "conference" but you are playing the philosophy of the coach for any particular team. I wish people would give people the respect they deserve and stop making blanket thoughtless statements. Peace
typical p12 teams have dominated typical b10 teams...
@@willl7780 THE reason pac 12 teams dominate big 10 teams is because typical BIG 10 teams love the ground and pound. But pac 12 schools open it up and score points like crazy. That pulls the Big 10 teams out of their game plan!!!
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Can't wait to see Utah demolish Penn State to show these guys "flag football" aka candy-ass league.
well it would be penn states first win over a ranked team lol...
What a waste of a Heisman vote, Mr. Jones, Tennessee QB had a great game against Alabama, you must have not seen the Georgia + South Carolina games, there was a reason why he wasn’t invited to NY. Caleb Williams was the best player playing in that PAC 12 championship game before he got injured, if he was 100% healthy, they might not win, but they don’t get blown out. You should evaluate the play during the whole season, not take away from someone because of a message he has on his fingers.
U have to understand these guys are Buffoons 🤡😅😂🤣
Jones voted for Jabril Peppers but left Saquon Barkley off his ballot. He shouldn't have a vote.
The Heisman this year, we all have to admit is not great or exciting!!! Nobody ran away with anything, not a glaring favorite if you ask me!!! Who cares, as a Nittany Lions 🦁 fan, I am ready for a fantastic Rose Bowl game, Penn State and Utah match up very well and even!!! I think it will definitely come down to the end and keep me nervous and pacing the floor!!! Lol
WE ARE
I agree, who could have left Saquan off the ballot, ridiculous!!! He should have his voting privileges revoked!!! WE ARE
Why is this called Pennlive ? To this dude Jones, it's always anybody BUTT Penn State ! You're becoming predictable and boring to watch. I'm done.... WE ARE.
Rose Bowl is a glorified scrimmage with out outs. The score will be in the 40s for both teams as defense will be optional just like it was last year when OSU 2nd stringers beat Utah.
I will be rooting for Penn State and the B10 as a whole....just hate to see these games with guys not playing because the game doesnt mean anything...at least not to them
OSU had 5 players opt out - that would hardly equate to '2nd team' (unless you're a Homer). Utah's secondary was depleted and had to slot a RB into the safety position (which allowed Smith-Njigba to pad his stats). That aside, Ohio State recruits Blue Chip while Utah earns their keep with mostly 3-star recruits...and yet the Utes still almost beat the Buckeyes.
Ugh.
Oh I can't wait to see Utah kick Penn-0-phile State's ass!!!
Ok Mr. HanCOCK. Pitt fan? 😂
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Classy...tell me where the "Bad Man" touched you 😢
@@KevanHancock Yes we will 🤫 since Pitt sucks. A secret between us 👌
What is a typical pac 12 team? Would that be more like wazzu or washington?
Yes. Pass happy big play team but wet paper napkin defense.
@@0rthogonal i will agree outside of 3 teams.. Utes, wazzu (held Wisconsin to 14 in camp Randall) and the beavers. So yea you’re getting one of the teams that plays defense lol
@@0rthogonal typical p12 beats typical b10 all the time...oregon beat ohio state last year and both washington teams won...
oregon knocked off ohio state last year in the shoe lol...these guys are crazy