Used to watch it with my Dad who was a professor of law and worked as well as advisor for the state this was only one small good memory of him he was a drunk who was like Jekyll and Hyde
Peter Dudley here, Ivy Tilley's husband in Corrie, a sad end in 1983 RIP. Over Francis de la Tours left shoulder, in the far left corner is a black guy with dark glasses, he's a very long running extra in Corrie, he's usually playing darts in the Rovers ;-).
When France de la Tour starts speaking you expect Rigsby to pop out of somewhere. It's a good job it wasn't Philip on the witness stand, she would have gone all soft.
There are three people that I absolutely love in this show for their amazing acting: Alton (Tunde), Frances de la Tour, and the judge (god, he's just so funny). Thanks Jez for this really entertaining upload.
Wonderful episode with so many twists and turns. I am surprised at the verdict but I won't mention it here as it will spoil it for others. JEZ u r brilliant posting these episodes.HUGE THANKS
The 70's & 80's a generation of kids watching Crown Court on days off - Cut to today - a generation of kids watching porn on their phones - we're doomed ;-).
They can't get beyond a Twitter amount of text. You give a viewpoint🤔or opinions & they get abusive🤬👊. They have no idea how democracy & freedom of speech works. Schools are letting them down badly. By the end of this century it doesn't bare thinking😓about. As for emojis🤣🤪👀😱.
Thanks once again Jez. Re the verdict, three corroborating witnesses on one side and one discredited witness on the other. No wonder Judge CJ (my favourite of the CC judges) said what he did at the end.
The three corroborating witnesses were equally discredited by the fact that they all produced identical word for word records of what Muir is supposed to have said and the old boy in particular was shown that he could not possibly have heard or remembered the speech with such accuracy. On the other hand Muir's own detailed record of his speech was just as ridiculously unbelievable. All in all the whole thing strained credibility beyond breaking point, up to and including the fact that the prosecution had apparently never before heard of Muir's black girfriend yet within 30 minutes of finding it out had produced a detailed account of their sexual practices. Utter nonsense in other words and a shame because most of the Crown Courts are more realistic than this.
Excellent episode, or "episodes", I should say. I love this era of British television. Great writing and acting. Also, nice use of natural humour throughout, it doesn't detract from the story at all. Carmen Munro looks gorgeous in this as well.
Does anyone know - this seems to be some kind of special episode, I've got all 8 seasons on DVD & I don't remember seeing this & the barristers are both special appearances, Ruby Wax's hubby Ed Bye & Dame Franny de la Tour, plus different court staff & a different set I think. Was it a Christmas special, or in response to street race wars, I wonder?? Thanks Jez luv xx.
I'm watching the 1971 tv series Justice with the excellent Margaret Lockwood as a barrister & also thus learning law. Once done it's Crown Court. Are all the 30min lunchtime episodes available, as there must be a few hundred surely M'Lud.
I've also been watching Justice, have got up to Series 2. Excellent. Looking forward to working through Crown Court also. I was too young to appreciate both programmes as a kid.
What a cast...John ("C.J.") Barron, Frances de la Tour (Miss Jones), Jack Haig ("It is I, le Clair, dressed as a simple village idiot..."), Mr Muir ('Top Deck' Shandy advert), Toni Palmer (the woman off the Mars fun size bars advert). I didn't think it was appropriate for the judge to address the defendant as simply "Muir" just because he disagreed with the verdict.
This is probably the most ridiculous episode of CC I've watched on here. The prosecution lawyer is surprised the defendants girlfriend is in the box and asks for a 30 min break to make enquiries. In those 30 mins he learns in very intimate detail the personal life and sex life of the couple!
What a star-studded episode. The brilliant John Barron as the testy judge, the wonderful Frances de la Tour, forever Miss Jones of Rising Damp fame, and that isn't Mr Isham - "it is I, Leclerc, from Allo Allo"! Also, Roger Sloman (as Mr Geddes) played a very similar role in an episode of Rumpole of the Bailey (Rumpole and The Fascist Beast). In real life, I don't think the judge would openly disagree with the jury's verdict though.
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I agree with the judge asking Mr. Williams if he could really recall all of Mr. Muir's words so comprehensively. His recitation was a tad much. That stated, the all-white jury is worrisome. Britain had sufficient diversity by this time, so not sure why the jury could not have been more reflective of the population.
I thought the Judge's expression and gestures on 42:22 when Muir wanted to read notes were hilarious!! (I didn't get where I am today by listening to people reading notes!)
About bloody time Tommy Lancaster ended up in the dock after what he did to the Crossroads Motel. Nice to see Zaphod Beeblebrox minus one head and Miss Jones taking up alternative careers. I'd be terrified to see Morgan C. Devereaux trying any body in court. Interesting that Peter Dudley is playing a court official considering how many times he ended up in court himself once he was fired as Bert Tilsley. Maybe he shared a cell with Stonepark's long termer Toni Palmer? Carmen Munro says How Do You Do? by the way.
Could it have been a clearer case of Incitement to racial hatred. That verdict by the jury is a damning indictment of them and that era of British history 60s 70s and 80s overt racism was rife. Loved the programme but the knowledge race relations were that bad in the country of my birth saddens me
Very clever implication that without an all white jury the verdict might have been different - but the defendant was entitled to a 'jury of his peers' and that is what he got.
This used to go out at lunchtimes, yes? I'm of an age when the only time you would see Crown Court was when you off sick from school (BBC Radio 4 news quiz reference recently!) So - the LANGUAGE !!! The word 'crap' used at least once, and then the stupendously offensive term 'shitskin' also used. O.M.G.
Hi, Ed. A lot of CC episodes went out at lunchtimes, you’re right. Some, according to listings in the TV Times, were broadcast on or after 9pm. I’m presuming this was one of them!
We weren't exactly spoilt for choice in those days when it came to tv. Three channels, the test card... Crown Court was the best programme on. Some strong topics were featured; it's an interesting social document.
Old Skool UK TV was anomalous, it had the strict (sort of) 9pm watershed, that indicated safe for children to watch up until then, however, during the day, when children were supposed to be at school, you could see a full-on birth, from every angle & the odd swear word, if it was artistically justified, a perfectly common sense balance. Radio 4 is or was the same, you can still hear the odd strong swear word during the day, if it's deemed justifiable, although whether pragmatic, common sense is still around in these strange snowflake days, who knows ;-).
Yes, I only saw it when I was off sick from school: I feel tired and feverish just hearing the music! I was usually off sick for just one day, so although I remember many of these inindividual episodes, I often didn't see the whole story.
Good grief ! There was so many suggestions thrown around it was hard to discover who was telling the truth. This case was too scripted. All that note taking was all rather silly and rather comical.
Don't read on if u don't want a spoiler ...... ......... ...... Well it seems to me that he was guilty but the 3 witnesses who gave details of his speech collaborated and sadly because of this the jury were unsure of the truth to full satisfaction
I find this episode difficult to watch. And so have watched only 8 minutes. The defences argument seems to one of 'the plaintiff has a chip on his shoulder'.
My mother came and studied went back home to the Caribbean with my English born self in tow. Thanking my lucky stars that I never had to experience this racial silliness. Our populations are actually in decline here. Our people can come home.
Random choice in the UK, not picked due to race or gender and with the population of non--whites in the UK just over 10% (less in most places) all white juries are not surprising. The UK justice system and population is not like america.
What ob earth was that witness Geddis suffering from? Did he have fleas in his undermear or what? I'm surprised the Judge didn't ask him if he needed medical treatment! Nice to see Miss Jones there. (Rising Damp):
Verdict was one I would have made if I had been on the jury. Identical notes by three prosecution witnesses despite one being demonstrated as hard of hearing.. A man of limited intellect being wheeled out as a defence witness. The accused was in a sexual relationship with a black woman who loved him. Whether he wanted, or asked her, to marry him is of no consequence. Correct verdict.
being in a sexual relationship wouldnt mean that not a racist. Plenty of Afrikaaners and people in the South had relationships with black women but that didnt mean they respected them
I beg to disagree. This was a screaming racism case of the highest order even if one of the witnesses was proven deaf. The black girlfriend excuse makes it even worse as many racists keep black / coloured girls as “pets” or quasi servants. That’s very common.
"CJ" is the judge! There was a famous real case about racist language that got a lot of publicity at the time. The Racial Discrimination act came in around this time, hard to believe it took so long!
This case was tough to prove. It's a case he said/he said. That supposed speech that was made in the cafe was offensive yes, but not criminal. There are still many people who hold unpopular views on race, but it isn't a crime and this would be laughed out of court today.
I love Crown Court - an fascinating throwback to my childhood, off school and unwell! But isn't it interesting from a modern perspective (and I should point out that I've only just started watching this episode) that the jury, in a race-related trial and doubtless a sign of the times, but nevertheless worth noting, is exclusively white...?!?!
A interesting piece of historic television. Clearly the producers had an agenda and thought the “jury” would find the defendant guilty. They distinctly made provision in the script for the judge to disagree with the innocent verdict should it be delivered. Is this an example of the start of “political correctness”? Is this the sort of assumed “innocence” that led to the Rotherham sex scandal? I don't know, however Rotherham has certainly taught us that political correctness can every dangerous indeed.
The point of this episode is surely that both sides may not be presenting totally accurate evidence. The accused obviously *was* a racist, who had his partner crawl around naked to demean her in front of his friends, and he obviously was supposed to have said some awful things. Regarding provision in the script, every episode had this provision built-in, or they'd have to throw away episodes where the jury went against the script.
Worst acting I have ever seen. A few of these episodes were downright awful and terribly over acted by the accused and witnesses. Thankfully, the majority of the series was much better.
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Everyone one of a certain age will have fond memories of Crown Court.
Used to watch it with my Dad who was a professor of law and worked as well as advisor for the state this was only one small good memory of him he was a drunk who was like Jekyll and Hyde
I remember watching it before I was old enough to go to school!!!
Yes, I do too-thank you so much for this!!
John Barron,s reaction is priceless when the third witness says he made notes
Peter Dudley here, Ivy Tilley's husband in Corrie, a sad end in 1983 RIP. Over Francis de la Tours left shoulder, in the far left corner is a black guy with dark glasses, he's a very long running extra in Corrie, he's usually playing darts in the Rovers ;-).
As ever, CC is a fascinating barometer of social attitudes at the time.
As soon as I saw the judge (CJ in The Rise And Fall Of Reginald Perrin) I half expected him to say..."I didnt get where I am today by...." 😆.
Neither Mrs CJ nor I have ever ...
When France de la Tour starts speaking you expect Rigsby to pop out of somewhere. It's a good job it wasn't Philip on the witness stand, she would have gone all soft.
Funny and insightful (well done), but not to detract from Frances' performance as an exemplar of serious acting.
Rising damp in the courtroom !!
There are three people that I absolutely love in this show for their amazing acting: Alton (Tunde), Frances de la Tour, and the judge (god, he's just so funny). Thanks Jez for this really entertaining upload.
the judge was like all the judges in this show...a blinking idiot...thank god they are only actors .
@@PetroicaRodinogaster264 Surely, you found it entertaining though? No?
The wonderful John Barron " I didn't get to be a top judge Reggie,I say"I didn't get to be a top judge.
I didn't get where I am today by crawling about on all fours with no clothes on.
Mark Wing-Davey (Zaphod Beeblebrox from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy), son of Anna Wing (Lou Beale in EastEnders) as prosecuting council.
I knew I saw his face somewhere before :)
@@BRUTUALTRUTH He’s missing a head! He should have two!
He is unrecognisable with only one head. 😉
Mrs Finch - Toni Palmer, one of Danny La Rue's best friends & performer in his cabaret.
Wonderful episode with so many twists and turns. I am surprised at the verdict but I won't mention it here as it will spoil it for others. JEZ u r brilliant posting these episodes.HUGE THANKS
Great episode. Thank you
Defence barrister.looks like a younger princess Anne.
Annie Windsor had to face a real court years ago and got a criminal offenc as her dog wet berserk killing another animal.
Her character is also called Anne, funnily enough!
I can see that now you mention it.
Carmen Munro who played Florence Middlewood here went on to play Shirley Ambrose in 'Desmond's'.
The 70's & 80's a generation of kids watching Crown Court on days off - Cut to today - a generation of kids watching porn on their phones - we're doomed ;-).
how do you know they are watching porn unless you are watching it with them.
They can't get beyond a Twitter amount of text. You give a viewpoint🤔or opinions & they get abusive🤬👊. They have no idea how democracy & freedom of speech works. Schools are letting them down badly. By the end of this century it doesn't bare thinking😓about. As for emojis🤣🤪👀😱.
@@PetroicaRodinogaster264 are you watching Crown Court with a bunch of strange children?
Exactly.
I certainly did!
Thanks Jez.
I remember Mark Wing-Davy from Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.
Thanks once again Jez. Re the verdict, three corroborating witnesses on one side and one discredited witness on the other. No wonder Judge CJ (my favourite of the CC judges) said what he did at the end.
The three corroborating witnesses were equally discredited by the fact that they all produced identical word for word records of what Muir is supposed to have said and the old boy in particular was shown that he could not possibly have heard or remembered the speech with such accuracy. On the other hand Muir's own detailed record of his speech was just as ridiculously unbelievable. All in all the whole thing strained credibility beyond breaking point, up to and including the fact that the prosecution had apparently never before heard of Muir's black girfriend yet within 30 minutes of finding it out had produced a detailed account of their sexual practices. Utter nonsense in other words and a shame because most of the Crown Courts are more realistic than this.
Excellent episode, or "episodes", I should say. I love this era of British television. Great writing and acting. Also, nice use of natural humour throughout, it doesn't detract from the story at all. Carmen Munro looks gorgeous in this as well.
And Zaphod Beeblebrox prosecuting!
The judge made this episode so realistic with his facial expressions and comments.
Mr Isham: "Tls I, LeClair!"
Does anyone know - this seems to be some kind of special episode, I've got all 8 seasons on DVD & I don't remember seeing this & the barristers are both special appearances, Ruby Wax's hubby Ed Bye & Dame Franny de la Tour, plus different court staff & a different set I think. Was it a Christmas special, or in response to street race wars, I wonder?? Thanks Jez luv xx.
I'm watching the 1971 tv series Justice with the excellent Margaret Lockwood as a barrister & also thus learning law. Once done it's Crown Court. Are all the 30min lunchtime episodes available, as there must be a few hundred surely M'Lud.
I've also been watching Justice, have got up to Series 2. Excellent. Looking forward to working through Crown Court also. I was too young to appreciate both programmes as a kid.
.had a 3 day break.back on the crown courts. Another good download jez.
Pace yourself, Kirk, pace yourself! :)
Interesting social document too. Very much "of its time". Watched these as a kid when I was off ill from school.
The black man was most lazy... The employee is inocent
Who would imagine we would still be dealing with the same issue in 2024........
What a cast...John ("C.J.") Barron, Frances de la Tour (Miss Jones), Jack Haig ("It is I, le Clair, dressed as a simple village idiot..."), Mr Muir ('Top Deck' Shandy advert), Toni Palmer (the woman off the Mars fun size bars advert).
I didn't think it was appropriate for the judge to address the defendant as simply "Muir" just because he disagreed with the verdict.
Muir was PC Snow in Softly Softly.
This is probably the most ridiculous episode of CC I've watched on here. The prosecution lawyer is surprised the defendants girlfriend is in the box and asks for a 30 min break to make enquiries. In those 30 mins he learns in very intimate detail the personal life and sex life of the couple!
I agree, badly written
Maybe it was last ditch attempt by the prosecution to try and win the case against the defendant.
He had to call Paul Drake.
Yes it's like they forgot their own script. The second part felt rushed and the verdict which was perverse.
What a star-studded episode. The brilliant John Barron as the testy judge, the wonderful Frances de la Tour, forever Miss Jones of Rising Damp fame, and that isn't Mr Isham - "it is I, Leclerc, from Allo Allo"! Also, Roger Sloman (as Mr Geddes) played a very similar role in an episode of Rumpole of the Bailey (Rumpole and The Fascist Beast). In real life, I don't think the judge would openly disagree with the jury's verdict though.
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I agree with the judge asking Mr. Williams if he could really recall all of Mr. Muir's words so comprehensively. His recitation was a tad much. That stated, the all-white jury is worrisome. Britain had sufficient diversity by this time, so not sure why the jury could not have been more reflective of the population.
The defence would probably have objected.
I thought the Judge's expression and gestures on 42:22 when Muir wanted to read notes were hilarious!! (I didn't get where I am today by listening to people reading notes!)
You cannot see or hear 'Miss Jones' without thinking of Rigsby - even though this is a completely different programme!
The cadences of Muir's speech are very similar to the distinctive oratory of Enoch Powell.
Praise be unto him.
@@michaeligoe3935 good grief
I know the late Del Henney did appear in an episode called The Also Ran, but that also looks suspiciously like him guarding the defendant in this one!
About bloody time Tommy Lancaster ended up in the dock after what he did to the Crossroads Motel. Nice to see Zaphod Beeblebrox minus one head and Miss Jones taking up alternative careers. I'd be terrified to see Morgan C. Devereaux trying any body in court. Interesting that Peter Dudley is playing a court official considering how many times he ended up in court himself once he was fired as Bert Tilsley. Maybe he shared a cell with Stonepark's long termer Toni Palmer? Carmen Munro says How Do You Do? by the way.
JKMMOC 
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 👌🏻. In their Mon-Fri jobs😉. The other shows is them at week-ends 😆😆😆😆😆😆
Probably remembered his heart-rending reaction when his police dog got shot in Softly Softly Task Force in 1970. The British public loves dogs.
I'd have to agree with the judge's final remarks here.
I do too. The man should've been found guilty IMO.
Could it have been a clearer case of Incitement to racial hatred. That verdict by the jury is a damning indictment of them and that era of British history 60s 70s and 80s overt racism was rife.
Loved the programme but the knowledge race relations were that bad in the country of my birth saddens me
Your comment is of a very intelligent, person!! I could not agree more!!!😇
Very clever implication that without an all white jury the verdict might have been different - but the defendant was entitled to a 'jury of his peers' and that is what he got.
Yep he was guilty
That Judge used to be CJ! 'I didn't get where I am today Perrin'
This used to go out at lunchtimes, yes? I'm of an age when the only time you would see Crown Court was when you off sick from school (BBC Radio 4 news quiz reference recently!)
So - the LANGUAGE !!! The word 'crap' used at least once, and then the stupendously offensive term 'shitskin' also used.
O.M.G.
Hi, Ed. A lot of CC episodes went out at lunchtimes, you’re right. Some, according to listings in the TV Times, were broadcast on or after 9pm. I’m presuming this was one of them!
Haha - it was this, Sons & Daughters and then latterly Going for Gold - the off sick TV schedule :D
We weren't exactly spoilt for choice in those days when it came to tv. Three channels, the test card... Crown Court was the best programme on. Some strong topics were featured; it's an interesting social document.
Old Skool UK TV was anomalous, it had the strict (sort of) 9pm watershed, that indicated safe for children to watch up until then, however, during the day, when children were supposed to be at school, you could see a full-on birth, from every angle & the odd swear word, if it was artistically justified, a perfectly common sense balance. Radio 4 is or was the same, you can still hear the odd strong swear word during the day, if it's deemed justifiable, although whether pragmatic, common sense is still around in these strange snowflake days, who knows ;-).
Yes, I only saw it when I was off sick from school: I feel tired and feverish just hearing the music! I was usually off sick for just one day, so although I remember many of these inindividual episodes, I often didn't see the whole story.
For kids wagging school in thee 70s. To prepare 'em for their future!
Superb.
So you have a judge from Reggie Perrin and a barrister from Rising Damp.
"I didn't get where I am today skiving law school Reggie"
“ Furthur Right Than Himmler “ is probably the tag line for the Association of English Plasterers & Dry Liners 😮
Does anyone know if all episodes of Crown Court were shown on 'Legal tv?'
The woman playing 'Florence Middlewood' is a bit tasty.
Good grief ! There was so many suggestions thrown around it was hard to discover who was telling the truth. This case was too scripted. All that note taking was all rather silly and rather comical.
Thanks jezz.
34:12 witness calls the plaintiff ‘Tunbe’ after using his correct name ‘Tunde’ at least half a dozen times! 😂😂
what a stupid nitpicking comment. These are actors for a start. Also, if it was real, people have slip ups with words all the time.
@@PetroicaRodinogaster264 Budgerigar. 😂😂😂 🛎🔚
The Black actor at the beginning gives a thoroughly convincing performance.
The defence lawyer should be burning by fire.
Don't read on if u don't want a spoiler ......
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Well it seems to me that he was guilty but the 3 witnesses who gave details of his speech collaborated and sadly because of this the jury were unsure of the truth to full satisfaction
I find this episode difficult to watch. And so have watched only 8 minutes. The defences argument seems to one of 'the plaintiff has a chip on his shoulder'.
I know. It's like a rape trial listing the victim's previous partners.
Some very after the watershed words used in this . In the days when they treated people like adults.
Zaphod for the prosecution!
His opening speech he was describing the Tory government of today!
My mother came and studied went back home to the Caribbean with my English born self in tow.
Thanking my lucky stars that I never had to experience this racial silliness.
Our populations are actually in decline here. Our people can come home.
14:35 Hercules = Ajax: very funny!
No black people on the Jury smh
Usually there is a jury member who is appropriate to the case being heard.🤣🤣🤣
Random choice in the UK, not picked due to race or gender and with the population of non--whites in the UK just over 10% (less in most places) all white juries are not surprising. The UK justice system and population is not like america.
What ob earth was that witness Geddis suffering from? Did he have fleas in his undermear or what? I'm surprised the Judge didn't ask him if he needed medical treatment! Nice to see Miss Jones there. (Rising Damp):
How ironic, 2023 post-Brexit and for many there is a feeling that most of Nigeria now seems to have settled in the UK.
.that witness for the defence.useless.kbps looking at the accused for help.this better be a guilty
It is I, Le Clerc
Good moaning
Such a dodgy defence!
I like this case because it illustrates the defendant's point The plaintiff didn't help his case by his behavior in court
Verdict was one I would have made if I had been on the jury. Identical notes by three prosecution witnesses despite one being demonstrated as hard of hearing.. A man of limited intellect being wheeled out as a defence witness. The accused was in a sexual relationship with a black woman who loved him. Whether he wanted, or asked her, to marry him is of no consequence. Correct verdict.
being in a sexual relationship wouldnt mean that not a racist. Plenty of Afrikaaners and people in the South had relationships with black women but that didnt mean they respected them
I beg to disagree. This was a screaming racism case of the highest order even if one of the witnesses was proven deaf.
The black girlfriend excuse makes it even worse as many racists keep black / coloured girls as “pets” or quasi servants. That’s very common.
13 sausage rolls...and a turnip!!
nuts in may mr Geddes !!!
Frances de la tour plays the defense barrister x
The defense lawyer is a bitch! I love her already.
How appealing he never got his costs.
Terence Rigby Carmen Munro and Frances de la Tour top actors not guilty
"CJ" is the judge! There was a famous real case about racist language that got a lot of publicity at the time. The Racial Discrimination act came in around this time, hard to believe it took so long!
The correct verdict and one I did not expect 👍
Agreed with the judge at the end. It was the wrong verdict!!
Onya judge👍
The script is absolutely a Oscar winner.
It's delivery by the cast a
second Oscar win.
Excellent work all round!
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
Knew it not guilty again.
This case was tough to prove. It's a case he said/he said. That supposed speech that was made in the cafe was offensive yes, but not criminal.
There are still many people who hold unpopular views on race, but it isn't a crime and this would be laughed out of court today.
@@robinneher3262 Quite the opposite, sadly.
@@robinneher3262 incitement to racial hatred is a crime, and was a crime then, too.
I've watched 4 cases so far and all not guilty.
Yes small break over the weekend jez.back on it now.sick of the not g uiltys.when obvousley guilty.
the beautiful Toni palmer
Annoying use of Janacek for theme music.
Good grief man, get with the program.
I love it. Very appropriate.
VERY SERIOUSLY NEEDS A SATURDAY/SUNDAt afternoon repeat!, FUCK 'RIGHTS'!.
But did anybody notice that the judge looked bored?
I love Crown Court - an fascinating throwback to my childhood, off school and unwell! But isn't it interesting from a modern perspective (and I should point out that I've only just started watching this episode) that the jury, in a race-related trial and doubtless a sign of the times, but nevertheless worth noting, is exclusively white...?!?!
Isn't it a random jury, rather than seletected for gender, religion or colour?
The race problem is getting worse!
A lucky man in deed.
Ajax
A interesting piece of historic television. Clearly the producers had an agenda and thought the “jury” would find the defendant guilty. They distinctly made provision in the script for the judge to disagree with the innocent verdict should it be delivered.
Is this an example of the start of “political correctness”? Is this the sort of assumed “innocence” that led to the Rotherham sex scandal? I don't know, however Rotherham has certainly taught us that political correctness can every dangerous indeed.
So it's politically correct to object to extermination camps for non-whites now is it?
The point of this episode is surely that both sides may not be presenting totally accurate evidence. The accused obviously *was* a racist, who had his partner crawl around naked to demean her in front of his friends, and he obviously was supposed to have said some awful things.
Regarding provision in the script, every episode had this provision built-in, or they'd have to throw away episodes where the jury went against the script.
Worst acting I have ever seen. A few of these episodes were downright awful and terribly over acted by the accused and witnesses. Thankfully, the majority of the series was much better.
That's a bit harsh. For instance, Roger Sloman's performance as the shifty cockney former accidental fascist is brilliant.
surprised the prosecution didnt object to make up of jury