ISSUES FIXED? Pagani Design PD1717 V2 Longines Spirit Homage Watch Review

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  • Here's the review of the Pagani Design PD1717 V2 Longines Spirit homage watch.
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  • @stephenmcloughlin9894
    @stephenmcloughlin9894 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have this in green and added dark green strap. Gorgeous

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice. I haven't tried mine on a strap yet. But I think it could be a bit of a strap monster.

  • @jjakiefte2165
    @jjakiefte2165 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have it in white, which is a really spiffing watch. The dial is very subtly textured and nicely white (not the ugly 'champagne' of the Pagani's main inspiration). The distortion of the crystal is really wonderful. I bought several Paganis and sold them on because they ultimately did not have the 'it' factor, but this one is a keeper.

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nothing really wrong with this watch. The best looking colour option of the original is a champagne coloured dial. It watch could use some better AR coating and an applied logo wouldn't go amiss either. This would make an amazing watch out of what's already a very good watch! Nice review mate!

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah an applied logo would be nice. Most AliExpress watches could always do with some more AR. Thanks mate.

    • @XjohnjohnX88
      @XjohnjohnX88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Totally agree. AR coating, applied logo, good lume for the same price and it would be a best seller for sure!

    • @sinesaii
      @sinesaii ปีที่แล้ว +2

      With good clear AR, i would buy it. I tried the Longines on at Macy’s and it is heavenly. The lugs are long and cool. It is a great watch, but twice the price it should be.
      I could see buying a pre owned, but I just do not love it enough for even that price. Who knows. I would jump on the Pagani if it had proper AR.

    • @ericcccccable
      @ericcccccable 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sinesaii You have to get the white version from Pagani. The lack of AR is not noticeable with the white dial. On dark dials it's more annoying.

  • @markdeitch3087
    @markdeitch3087 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I ordered the V1 in blue on a VERY cheap daily deal (under £30) and they sent the V2!! One happy customer. It's a lovely watch. Real weight and impressive finish. It gets a lot of attention, which is always nice I really love the red second hand! Great channel. Huge thanks for all you do.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice. No wonder you're happy for that price. Cheers, I'm glad you like the channel 👍

  • @JasonTheWatchGuy
    @JasonTheWatchGuy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really enjoyed mine! Thought it fit really well to wrist and with the new hand length, I think it works really well! Almost convinced me to buy the genuine thing!

  • @chrisr8112
    @chrisr8112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked the look of this in v1 form, so great to see some improvements. Obvs credit goes to Longines for what is a good looking design. Some many watches, so little time…

  • @Al_Prazolam
    @Al_Prazolam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very thorough & helpful review, thank you!

  • @hitsugayat10
    @hitsugayat10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I avoided v1 and got blue v2 instead and am very happy with it. The clasp is surprisingly finished much better than those usual rolex style clasp from PD.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah they're upping their game. I'm glad you're enjoying yours.

  • @playeroflife
    @playeroflife 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh why do I like watches so much. Now I have to go get this little beauty. ty for great video

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😆 It's almost like an addiction this hobby isn't it?

  • @angelherrera2271
    @angelherrera2271 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blue is my favorite but all of them are quite nice. Dig this watch. Good stuff.
    Nice review.
    Cheers!

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, you can't really go wrong with any of the different colours.
      Thanks 👍

  • @markloubser2433
    @markloubser2433 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Overall a damn good buy. I have the Air King which has a standard caseback which makes removal easy for regulation. This one not. Be aware the straps need refinishing to get rid of the sharp edges. If you're up to it then an excellent buy.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah the build quality of these latest Pagani Design watches has definitely done up a notch... But they still need to improve some things.

  • @czguy3045
    @czguy3045 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also have a green one I picked up on Mercari for dirt cheap. I think this is becoming a top 2 or 3 Pagani for me. I do have a soft spot for slightly dressy field watches. I like almost everything about this one... except the lume. If they would apply five layers of lume and jack the price up $5 across the board, I think they'd dig into the Steeldive/Addiesdive level of watches which tend to be about 5% better overall, but 500% better lume. I know a lot of folks are starting to slag on Pagani overall but you can't deny their variety of watches. Love the details on the dial, love the dial color, like the hand set.

  • @stephenhuber1079
    @stephenhuber1079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This watch might look good on a type of homage to the Longines green silicone strap as well as the bracelet. Great review!

  • @Trex100
    @Trex100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to say that looks really good. Great review:-)

  • @yankeexpress
    @yankeexpress ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They fixed almost everything with V.2. Only thing I wish they would offer is the option of a smoother highbeat movement like a PT5000 which they recently put in the 1723 models.

  • @firefighter387
    @firefighter387 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi great review of a beautiful watch what are your thoughts of the green dial is it flat smooth or grainy?

  • @jasonbostock408
    @jasonbostock408 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great review as always the lume is always an issue I would rather they got rid of the extra strap they put in and spent the money on a bit more lume, not my style (i have no style my wife says) great work as ever mate ))

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be my vote too.
      That's a bit harsh of her. It's not like you're rocking those huge ugly Invicta's 😉
      Thanks mate 👍

  • @statlerwaldorf7130
    @statlerwaldorf7130 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice looking watch, I agree just the logo really cleans up the dial, but come on Pagani, surely lume formula doesn't cost that much!!

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      I know right. Get rid of the extra strap and put that towards better lume.

  • @educarmar
    @educarmar ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good review man - I hope you can find a little relief outdoors these days, being attached to a wheelchair is not fun. Take care.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks mate. Yeah it was nice to get out and about for the first time in a long time.

  • @zibitadin4275
    @zibitadin4275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    why there is no issue comparison mentioned in the title? please add at least a list of v1 vs v2 changes in the description

    • @hrs.ai2018
      @hrs.ai2018 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The diff between v1 and v2 is only at its second, minutes and hour hands where v1 bit shorter. That's all

  • @stavros_katsopr
    @stavros_katsopr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Without Brits Aliland wouldn't sell green dial watches... (at all??😋). Anyways, a big thank to Longines for this amazing design, and Pagani for bringing it to the masses, twice...! Really like this design, wouldn't mind that much for the lume on this, you just want to stare this dial, that's that for me. Now that they fixed the hands to...
    Thanks for the review James, be well mate, cheers.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      Now the hands are sorted, it's much better isn't it? Cheers mate, you too.

  • @dunderhay9169
    @dunderhay9169 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That looks the nicest Pagani I have seen so far 👍

  • @nickdolin393
    @nickdolin393 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice looking watch in photos but with a single dome crystal is gonna be a reflection machine like my Hamilton Khaki King. With minimal AR, it's probably gonna be a pass. It's funny they mention that V2 has "more" AR but if it's anything like my PD1734, AR again is minimal. Shame they couldn't do flat or DD sapphire which would negate some of the need for more AR.

  • @michaelbradley5722
    @michaelbradley5722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have this in V2 Blue and overall I like it. Would have preferred it as a 39mm and a bit thinner. Quartz movement even maybe? Main disappointment would be the female end links on the bracelet. I do like that general style of bracelet but wish they had gone with male end links like on the Spirit it resembles. Pagani Design are at a really good standard of workmanship now.
    Have bought two watches on the current Mega Brands sale. RMALTI diver MM200 White birch dial and another with a sunburst blue/greenish? dial. Went for the 'No Logo' option for each of them. Bit of a weird brand name?

  • @Vidmr2407
    @Vidmr2407 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This thing is gorgeous and came in under 60 hours from time ordered to Virginia, USA. fastest Aliexpress ever!

  • @commentjedi
    @commentjedi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got one ($65 SHIPPED). I bought it out of curiosity and to tinker with. So nice in person and my it's my 1st PD.
    Three issues with the head of the watch:
    1-the flat-bottom (sgl dome) crystal;
    2- poor lume
    3-hands are cheap looking in person
    I could do something about 1 and 3, but not the lume. But then....it's not a diver.
    Cheers!

  • @clk1564
    @clk1564 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just found your channel. Are there any other good longines homage watches? Dolce vita, flagship, etc

  • @xPhilz0r
    @xPhilz0r ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly I wear this one a lot more than some of my other more expensive watches. I like everything about it, except perhaps the crystal and of course the lume. (crystal is a little too reflective)

  • @maljones.8737
    @maljones.8737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This could be the first pagani that I might buy less text need that lume adjustment though .Thanks James
    Neet bracelet by the way.👍

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which colour would you go for then?

    • @maljones.8737
      @maljones.8737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Green I think looks good.especially the out door shots.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maljones.8737 It's pretty subtle from some angles, but that's part of the reason I like it too.

  • @user-qh7mv8np2s
    @user-qh7mv8np2s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have been collecting Seiko Astron and Citizen Atessa watches but these homage watches from Pagani with their price and quality make me want to try and get one.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They certainly offer a lot for not a lot of money.

  • @tofu3802
    @tofu3802 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice, good that, they have gone for a cleaner look. Thankd

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Removing the Pagani Design text makes a big difference doesn't it?

    • @sylvainb.coternbsc.n4896
      @sylvainb.coternbsc.n4896 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HonestWatchReviewsHWR I completely agree with you. PD should put only an applied logo +- 5 % bigger on all their watches. I would put the Pagani Design text on the back case or on the rotor if it is a back glass case. C3 or BGW9 should also be better. They should offer their watch with a strap at x price and watch a bracelet at x price. Excellent review as usual HWR. Bonjour from Montréal !

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sylvainb.coternbsc.n4896 Definitely. Those little tweaks would make a big difference.
      Cheers mate, I appreciate that.

  • @XjohnjohnX88
    @XjohnjohnX88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Agree with you. A very beautiful watch.
    But Pagani Design really need to improve the lume on their watches! Everyone is saying!

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah. If they can sort that out it will take their watches to another level.

  • @deedee8568
    @deedee8568 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think this is a great watch; super for the price; would recommend to anyone looking for an everyday/anyday watch. (Single) domed sapphire a winner. Thanks.

  • @paulhiggins8774
    @paulhiggins8774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Applied number! Brilliant I’ve been looking for a watch like this for years, not in green though

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a nice detail isn't it? Which dial colour would you go for then?

    • @paulhiggins8774
      @paulhiggins8774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HonestWatchReviewsHWR I’m a blue guy but to be honest I like the white but if it was silver it would be my go to colour

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulhiggins8774 The blue does look good. I just went for the green, as I already have quite a few blue dial watches though.

  • @bezimienny_andzej6425
    @bezimienny_andzej6425 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I do not understand is why are Chinese avoiding original designs like it's fire.
    Seriously, the design of this dial can be easily tweaked and modified to be original while keeping the general "spirit" of the watch. Instead Pagani Design goes for some subtle differences. Same with Addiesdive's Hamilton Khaki Automatic homage. They've added a red accent (200m WR) which actually improves the looks a lot (now the tip of second hand is not the only red part in view), but it's way too little to call that watch "original".
    The quality is there, prices are awesome, but it's homage fiesta all over the place. And there's really a lot of ways to make an original looking field watch. Just combine 2-3 existing designs and it most likely will still look great.
    Regarding the lume - I wonder how it compares to f.e. Addiesdive MYH2, because that one can rival Orient Ray 2 when it comes to longevity, and Orient Ray 2 is a pretty solid performer.

  • @vladspb_
    @vladspb_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a very nice looking watch, but a little bit too small and I prefer if it has a quartz choice as well

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      It'll definitely appeal more to those with smaller wrists.

    • @vladspb_
      @vladspb_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HonestWatchReviewsHWR unfortunately, almost all of these nice looking homage watches are very small. Some even 36mm. Today watches should be at least 40mm.

  • @wafarris
    @wafarris ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a shockingly good watch to me especially for just over $100. I got it for 104 with coupons. With sales like the current one, I imagine you might be able to get it around the same price or less. The lume isn't great but it's okay for the type watch. It barely matters to me. The bracelet is decent and probably better than most, if not all, other PD bracelets. The bracelet is as good as or better than many Seikos, Orients, and Citizens--at least the watches under $500. The finishing on the watch head and dial are suburb in my opinion. Great watch. Much better than I expected.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah it's definitely one of their best finished watches, with the little details that you don't always get with Pagani Design.

  • @cemreaj3405
    @cemreaj3405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful

  • @119fatty
    @119fatty 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd really love this, if only they made a 40 or 42

  • @bifflee3603
    @bifflee3603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I almost just bought this, it's in my basket along with the 1723 I think it is the one with the pt5000

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully this video was helpful then.

    • @bifflee3603
      @bifflee3603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HonestWatchReviewsHWR yes definitely - thanks

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bifflee3603 Great. If you do end up getting one, please consider using my affiliate link.

  • @TyBower
    @TyBower 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pity we can't have radium dials. Such is life.

  • @roydoorenspleet1548
    @roydoorenspleet1548 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good one man. Me I would have preferred a double domed hardlex over a single domed sapphire.. It makes só much
    difference in appearance
    Some silicium carbide p1200 paper is to hardlex what polywatch is to acrylic

  • @d7r_tv
    @d7r_tv ปีที่แล้ว

    I got this one month ago. The lack of AR and poor Lum really make me not wearing it as often.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you have the V1 or V2?

    • @d7r_tv
      @d7r_tv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HonestWatchReviewsHWR I got the V2 (longer hands) blue version

    • @tedng6657
      @tedng6657 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@d7r_tv I thought the V2 comes with AR coating?

  • @err0ify
    @err0ify 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The AR really became better?

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every single review company's about the lume. It's kind of a which they still have addressed it. Pretty much every other popular AliExpress brand has by now.

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully they'll listen to us all and improve it soon 🤞

    • @ramspencer5492
      @ramspencer5492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Typo. Auto "correct". Complains. Not company

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ramspencer5492 I figured that was what you meant.

  • @persianchrist
    @persianchrist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the biggest issue of this watch for me is the crystal. this watch should have a flat sapphire crystal with tons of AR

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm with you on the AR, but I personally prefer domed crystals myself.

  • @ZiggityPow
    @ZiggityPow ปีที่แล้ว

    So many distracting mic pops in the audio in this video. Did you change mic, mic placement, or gain settings?

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry about that. I've recently changed my mic. So, I'm still trying to figure out the best placement and settings for it.

  • @6TeddyMc9
    @6TeddyMc9 ปีที่แล้ว

    would you know what tool and size to remove the lid?

    • @sanctuaryjester
      @sanctuaryjester หลายเดือนก่อน

      what lid, the case back?

  • @YannickKhong
    @YannickKhong ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If only it had AR coating and C3 superluminova :DDD

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pretty rare to get decent AR on AliExpress watches at this price. But they definitely need to up the lume though. I still love it though.

    • @YannickKhong
      @YannickKhong ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HonestWatchReviewsHWR well at the very least, AR coating like the San Martins :D

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YannickKhong Don't forget though, they cost quite a bit more.

  • @stevenrobertson6656
    @stevenrobertson6656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great looking watch, let down by poor lume. Come on get it sorted PD !

  • @zosothezephead837
    @zosothezephead837 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guess I'm in the minority in that lume means nothing to me. I want to see the watch in the light, not the dark.

  • @err0ify
    @err0ify 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whisper review.

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A lot of watch for your money

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Definitely. They are improving with the attention to detail and QC.

  • @jimwatchyyc
    @jimwatchyyc ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrible glare, a deal-breaker!

  • @pointblank722
    @pointblank722 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrible quality control. Mine came with tilted dial and dented case. DO NOT BUY!

    • @HonestWatchReviewsHWR
      @HonestWatchReviewsHWR  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sorry to hear that. Did you open a dispute with AliExpress?