The Scriptural FACTS demonstrate that these men were afraid because they thought Jesus just might be God's Anointed One since to do anything offensive to their God's Anointed One would be a very serious offence to God Himself.
Yeah ... While I both don't agree with certain Unitarian beliefs such as denying the pre-human existence of Christ as a divine being in heaven before coming to earth in human form. And I thoroughly reject the claims of Trinitarians, this particular exegesis is nevertheless very good and biblically accurate.
@@nathanh.6827Well the Yahdi (Judites) knew better. They feared The Almighty. The Romans didnt fear anyone including their own diety. So when The Messiah came forth and said Ego Ami or I am he, they knew he was the same person who did all those miracles had much power. Who knows why they were afraid, but i wonder if they afraid fire would come down and consume them, since that generation was obsessed with Elijah. Elijah was a Prophet who called fire from heaven and killed 3 groups of soildiers.
When Jesus said IAm it says they drew back that means took a step back and then fell down , kind of like a Jedi but the Holy Ghost knocked them down , to me HE was kind of like showing them I'm letting you take me , how many men were there like a hundred or more they all fell down at once wow wow
thank you Kel for the clarity brought to this passage. I was just thinking that if the utterance of 'ego eimi' supernaturally threw these soldiers to the ground, I'm sure that the display of that supernatural power and might would not have the soldiers get up, approach Jesus and arrest him. If the Trinitarian interpretation were true, I think that that demonstration would have convinced the soldiers not to arrest Jesus.
Our Lord Jesus was God in the Flesh. His word teaches Jesus and the Father are one. The Triune God, God the Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost. Three persons in one God. Jesus was God and His Word teaches this. Thank you Lord for your sacrifice to atone for our sins. We believe by faith in this and thank you Father for opening our hearts and minds to this salvation.
The God of Jesus is the only God there is. There is only one God - his God, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ. Any God which is not our Lord's God is a false God.
Thanks for this :) - it also helps clarify John 8:58 which some use to prove Jesus is the 'I AM' of Ex. 3:14. Truth is liberating, but also opens us up to new perpsectives in definition and context.
It is also clear from the other Gospels! The fight with the sword and Jesus performing his healing on the man's ear took place before Jesus took control of the situation and ask them who do you seek? As they had personally witnessed this miracle it only drives your point home more!
1: [Ego eimi] isn’t the divine name at Exodus 3:14 2: This is how a person would identify themselves. This is why [some] scholars translate it to say @I am he” or something similar. 3: The Greek word translated *band* or *cohort* does not need to refer to a Roman military unit. 4: Jesus identified himself unexpectedly to the soldiers (without fear). 5: These soldiers had been previously dispatched to arrest Jesus but had returned empty handed (afraid he might be the Christ) 6: Several OT passages illustrate the guilt associated with stretching your hand out against God’s Christ 7: The proper response to God’s Christ, God’s Chosen King over Israel, was to bow down low in obedient subjection to him. good stuff.
have a question..who do and should u pray to if God is the one being. I prayed to both Jesus and God but felt if I left Jesus out that I was bad. To me I thought you should only pray to God. Not jesus. can u tell me who to and a scripture stating just him.
Follow the example of Jesus. He prayed to his Heavenly Father and left us the beautiful 'example' prayer which begins with 'Our Father, which art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name.....' That's from the best authority on the subject.
Eugene here. I want to answer Lyle Turgeon's question about who to pray to. I think about the question this way, who can I "talk to". It seems reasonable that I should be able to speak to anyone who can hear me and would invite me to share my thoughts. The disciples spoke with the man Messiah Jesus and they spoke to his and their God. They did not confuse the two in their mind or with their words. So my question is, can the man Jesus hear my words now and does he care to know what my concerns are? Is he in charge and is he my lord now? My answer is yes. So just as Peter spoke with both God and God's anointed, I see no reason why I can't do the same thing.
Lyle Turgeon Yes you can and should pray to the son and or the Father for 2 reasons. 1. 1 Tim 2:5 says “For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Jesus is our access to the Father! Even when you pray to the Father directly you must pray “In Yahushus’s (Jesus ) name”John 14:13-14. Meaning that you are praying through the access given to you by the Son. Basically what this means is that all your prayers directed to the Father go to and through the Son otherwise the Father will not even acknowledging them! #2 we have examples in scripture of the disciples praying to Jesus -Acts 7:59-60 Stephen prays to Jesus to receive his spirit. Also read Rev 5 Jesus is be worshipped and glorified in heaven. Jesus said it best, “I and the Father are one”... We know this is not a claim that he is God but it still stands true that He is the representative of man to God and the representative of God to man and therefore not only can we pray to and through Him to the Father but me MUST! Blessings to you brother!
Trinitarians always have to resort to this "you need special revelation outside of Scripture to understand the trinity." To which I answer 'No I don't.' If the apostles didn't teach it I don't need to believe it for salvation, ever.
Hi I think that Christs most abiding gift to mankind is that he taught us about the empowerment of Gods Holy Spirit.All we have to do is ask I for it to guide and empower us.It was always there manifest as the Shekinah but Christ made us aware that it was available to all.The Holy Spirit is NOT a person as the Greek word makes clear. "Pneuma' is akin to something flowing like the wind -thus we are said to be 'full' of IT, overflowing with IT. etc.Most religions try to paint themselves as 'exclusive' and that is where they go wrong.I regard the "Trinity' as a branding tool. Evangelicals tend to claim that this is unique and differentiates their 'brand' from other religions.I'm sure that God must feel great sorrow at how his people arrogantly claim to have exclusive access to the truth..
The holy spirit guides us when we listen and obey by reading the Bible then applying it personally. There is no extra-biblical revelation happening today. 2 Timothy 3:16,17 " All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God[ may be complete, equipped for every good work." Everything we need to know to be pleasing to God is in the Bible.
So, Mr learned? What exactly is your interpretation of the act that occurred in the Garden? Tell me, if everyone is using "i am" in the common sense, why would they all fall back as they did? Do you believe in the Trinity or don't you?
I can agree that the soldiers were afraid but I do not see that being afraid equates with all of them falling down... If it said that they backed up but that is NOT what scripture states... They FELL to the ground... respectfully, no matter how many times you repeat yourself it doesn't explain what happened. Thank you for your opinions
You missed the whole point 🤷♂️ THE WORD I AM are mentioned more than 50 times in the gospels. AND NONE OF THEM says nothing about FELL to the ground. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK they fell to the ground BECAUSE. I AM?
Jesus claimed to be God in the Jewish context, claiming to be the "Great I Am" before the Pharisees. In John 8:58, he says, "Very truly I tell you... before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him. Why did they pick up stones to stone him? Because he didn't put a predicate on the end of I am? I am what? No. The reason they picked up stones to stone him is because he was claiming to be Yahweh by quoting Exodus 3:14, the burning bush.
@@TheTrinityDelusion I didn't write Jesus "Glorified Himself" you wrote that. Jesus' self identification as God is not self glorification. Contrary to Anti-Trinitarian views, the very reason the Jews sought to kill Jesus is supplied in Jn 10:33 "...For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, MAKEST THYSELF GOD."
@@Nickfredmanfredi "I didn't write Jesus "Glorified Himself" you wrote that. Jesus' self identification as God is not self glorification. " You really need to work on your reading skills. "Whom do you make yourself out to be?” 54 Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing; it is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God’
@@TheTrinityDelusion You claimed Jesus glorified himself. I didn't... You've claimed I made an argument that I didn't make. So you've gone on this tangent all by yourself. Everyone knows Jn 8:54 and I didn't even claim that Jesus glorified Himself. So the confusion is not mine.
@@Nickfredmanfredi " You claimed Jesus glorified himself. I didn't" Yeah you did. Jesus said he does not glorify himself concerning who he is. You say he did indeed do just that at John 8:58.
The Catholic Church brought the "holy trinity doctrine" into Christianity ! The trinity doctrine is not biblical. There is one God, the Father. Christ is His only begotten son and therefore divine (God by nature). The spirit belongs to God and not a different person to him. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. God is God the Father ! Jesus is the SON OF God (Divine) ! and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God that reveals all truth. 1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. That verse mean they are one in agreement ! once in purpose ! NOT one God in 3 ! or 3 in one God. Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. These verses talk about our father who is spirit, and we are to worship him in spirit and in truth. Many think that our God is a "mystery" which they call a Trinity. The words of Jesus "Ye know not what ye worship" would apply if our God is a mystery. When we get to heaven, God will not then say "Meet my spirit". We will see God face to face, and we will know him. The father of Jesus Christ. Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: Eph 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, The Pagan Roots of the Trinity (Playlist) th-cam.com/play/PLMIW5zbeYAXJ99DQujQqBevz5CFT1KkFR.html
Yes. That is the bottom line! That is where this whole thing began. They cannot go on ignoring the obvious implications of why not a single trinitarian term is found in scripture.
but then WHY did these jewish soldiers stand right back up and proceed to arrest him if they were so afraid that this might be the messiah..especially after falling down/bowing down to him? Then they rush in on the one they just bowed to thinking he is the Lords chosen one, the King of Israel and Peter chops off one of their ears in defense...Jesus immediately performs a miracle by restoring the soldiers ear..and they STILL arrest him! Something wrong here
because, the devil came back into them. For a split second they perceived their weakness against God, but it didn't last, as satans lies came right back in.
”Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me. 46 Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God.”
Could it be, perhaps, that God, the Father clouded their minds so they couldn't see that Jesus was the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy? But if He did so, could they be fairly judged accountable to God for their error?
How can any human be the offspring of Satan? I can see how the Pharisees may have had their understanding of who Jesus was clouded but their father being Satan doesn't seem to make sense.
I am He is literally "I AM" (Gr. ego eimi), the divine Name. The power of this Name drives all His accusers to the ground. Even so, they do not repent.
At 7:20 into Dan Gill and Joel Hemphill’s “Great is the mystery of godliness” video, Joel Hemphill (a Socinian Unitarian) said that Jesus is "the exact likeness of the Father" when commenting on Hebrews 1:3. How can Jesus be “the EXACTLY LIKE THE FATHER” and not be that Father with us reproduced as a true man through the virgin? For the only true God the Father said in Isaiah 46:9, "I am God and there is none else, I AM GOD AND THERE IS NONE LIKE ME?" Since Jesus Christ is like God, He must be that "God with us" as a true man. 21st Century Reformation Unitarians affirm that the indwelling Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ while claiming that Jesus is only a mere man. Yet how can a mere man be omnipresent like God and not be that God? No verse of scripture ever says that a created angelic being or created human being can be in more than one location at a time? Only the Most High God "fills heaven and earth" (Jer. 23:24). Yet Jesus "fills all things" according to Ephesians 4:10. “He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that HE MIGHT FILL ALL THINGS.” Ephesians 4:10 NASBOnly God is the omnipresent Spirit who can hear and answer prayer, but Jesus said in John 14:13, "If you shall ask anything in my name I WILL DO IT." How can Jesus hear and answer prayers as God if he is not the omnipresent Spirit who fills all things? Jesus said, "My sheep hear My voice and another they will not follow." How can all of God's elect worldwide hear Jesus' voice if He is not the omnipresent God who became a man to save us? The apostles believed that Christ was in them. "Christ in you the hope of glory (Col. 1:27)." Paul wrote "Christ lives in me” in Galatians 2:20. How can Christ live in His Church if He is not the Spirit of God? "You are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be THE SPIRIT OF GOD dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST he is not His." Romans 8:9"For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst." Matthew 18:20 Wherefore, the scriptures prove that “the Spirit of Christ” is “the Spirit of God” as the omnipresent Spirit who indwells true New Testament believers. If Jesus is only a mere man, then how can Socinian Unitarians explain how Jesus can be in the midst of multiple congregations around the world as the indwelling Spirit if he is only a man? Furthermore, how can God's true Church be called "the bride of Christ" when the scriptures say we have only "One Husband." "For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD (YHWH) of hosts (Isaiah 54:5)." "I betrothed you to ONE HUSBAND, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ (2 Cor. 11:2)." If Christ is not the only true "God manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit" (1 Tim. 3:16) then we have two Spirit Husbands. Yet Paul wrote that we have "ONE HUSBAND" as we will be presented "as a pure virgin to Christ." That makes Jesus Yahweh God who came to save us as a man through the Hebrew virgin. "For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD (YHWH) of hosts (Isaiah 54:5)."Hosea 2:19 and Jer. 31:32 also state that the only true God is our spiritual Husband. Arians (Jesus is an angel), Socinians (Jesus is just a man), and Trinitarians (Jesus is one of 3 Divine Persons) cannot explain how the church is presented to "ONE HUSBAND" who is Jesus Christ because inspired scripture calls the only true God the Father our husband ("the LORD YHWH" is "your husband" - Isaiah 54:5). Can two or three divine persons be "one husband?" "I betrothed you to ONE HUSBAND, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ (2 Cor. 11:2)." Can a mere man replace God as our "ONE HUSBAND" while our Heavenly Father expressly said that He is our husband? Hebrews 1:3 and Hebrews 2:17 prove that the Spirit of God also became a true man by the Holy Spirit of the only true God descending upon the virgin (Luke 1:35; Matthew 1:18-23). 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 (NASB) says, "... our fathers WERE all under the CLOUD and all passed through the SEA; 2and all WERE BAPTIZED into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3and all ATE the same SPIRITUAL FOOD; 4and all DRANK the same SPIRITUAL DRINK, for they WERE DRINKING from A SPIRITUAL ROCK WHICH FOLLOWED THEM, and the ROCK WAS CHRIST."Paul clearly stated by inspiration that the Israelite fathers "WERE under the cloud" (the Spirit of God) "and all ATE the same SPIRITUAL FOOD." And they all "WERE BAPTIZED in the cloud and in the sea" (they experienced a type of water and Spirit baptism), "and all DRANK" from the Spirit of God. "For they WERE DRINKING from a Spiritual Rock which FOLLOWED THEM, and the ROCK WAS CHRIST." Notice that the text says that "they were drinking from a Spiritual Rock which FOLLOWED THEM." Could the Israelites have not ate and drank from the same spiritual food and drink while the scriptures say that they did? Since inspired scripture says that "they were drinking from a Spiritual Rock which FOLLOWED them," we know that the "spiritual rock" is not talking about the literal rock at Horeb. Could the literal rock at Horeb have "FOLLOWED THEM" in the wilderness? Do literal rocks follow people? We know that "the cloud by day and fire by night" followed the Israelites which clearly speaks of the Spirit of God which "WAS CHRIST" before his birth at Bethlehem. Thus proving that the Holy Spirit of the only true God the Father also became a man within the Hebrew virgin. For 2 Peter 1:21 says the Holy Spirit was in the prophets but 1 Peter 1:11 identifies that Spirit as “the Spirit of Christ” “in them” (in the prophets). 1 Corinthians 10:9 then says, "We should not test Christ (the Greek text says "Christos"), as some of them did--and were killed by snakes." Inspired scripture says that some of the Israelites did "test Christ". For the words, "as some of them DID" could not somehow be interpreted to mean that they did not "test Christ." How could some of the Israelites have tested Christ if Christ did not pre-exist as the Holy Spirit of the only true God who "followed them" (the Israelite fathers) in the wilderness? Our Heavenly Father is repeatedly spoken of in scripture as being the Israelites Rock. Psalm 18:2 says, "The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold." Deuteronomy 32:18 "You neglected the Rock who begot you, And forgot the God who gave you birth." Psalm 18:31 - For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God, Psalm 18:46 The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be the God of my salvation, Psalm 19:14 - Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer. Psalm 28:1 "A Psalm of David. To You, O LORD, I call; My rock, The LORD (YAHWEH) is repeatedly addressed as the Israelites Rock (“my rock” and “our rock”). When the apostles identified Christ as the Spiritual Rock of the Israelites, they proved that Jesus Christ pre-existed his virgin conception and birth as Yahweh the Spirit of our Heavenly Father. Heb.1:2 says that God did not speak to the Israelites through "a son" until these "last days" because Jesus pre-existed his birth as God "the Spiritual Rock that FOLLOWED THEM" before becoming a son. Since the literal rock at Horeb did not "follow them" (the Israelites), nor supply spiritual drink ("they drank from that spiritual rock that followed them and that rock was Christ"), we know that Jesus pre-existed his birth as a child born and son given as the Spirit of God who followed the Israelites in the wilderness who "was Christ." Therefore we know that the Spiritual Rock that followed the Israelites "was Christ" as God before becoming a human son. I have a long list of Socinian Unitarians who have either declined a Oneness verses Unitarian debate or have ignored my emails. I recently sent emails challenging Dan Gill and Joel Hemphill to a Oneness vs. Unitarian debate. Neither one of them has responded. Anthony Buzzard (declined), Dale Tuggy (declined), Sean Finnegan (at first he seemed interested but later stopped responding to my emails), and Kel (declined) from Trinity Delusion have all either declined or ignored my emails. If the 21st Century Reformation Unitarian view is correct, then why are all of their apologists afraid to debate their opponents? Since the new reformationists have admitted that Jesus Christ is the indwelling Holy Spirit, they now have to explain how a mere man can now "fill all things" as the Holy Spirit of the Father without violating Isaiah 42:8 and Isaiah 46:9. "I am Yahweh, that is My Name, and My glory will I not give to another." "I am God and there is none else, I am God and there is NONE LIKE ME." How can Jesus be like God in being the omnipresent Spirit who “fills all things” (Gal. 4:6, Romans 8:9, Ephes. 4:10) and hears and answers prayer (John 14:13) if he is only a mere man? John 5:23 says that all men should “honor the Son EVEN AS THEY HONOR THE FATHER.” If Jesus is just a man with no pre-existence as God, how then can we honor the Son “even as” we “honor the Father” without committing idolatry? John 10:37 clearly affirms that Jesus does the works of the Father. Since “there is none like” God he must be that God who came to save us as a true man as Immanuel “God with us” manifested as a human “child born” and “son given.” More info at ApostolicChristianFaith .com
Now I can add Dr. Dustin Smith and a less well known Socinian apologist who goes by Michael Servetus (his real name is Robert Weiss) to my list of Unitarian Socinian apologists who have decided against debating me after corresponding with me via email. I sincerely hope that a Unitarian Socinian apologist will one day participate in a Oneness vs. Unitarian Socinian debate. Now I am working on debates with Trinitarian apologists Edward Dalcour (whom I am currently corresponding with) and James White who stated that he would put me on his list of debates in a video response against me (but he does not respond to his emails on his ministry website). I am now giving up my efforts to obtain a debate with Socinians. There are two Arian / Semi-Arian apologists I will soon be contacting for debates. If there is anyone qualified, please email me through my ministry website contact page at Global Impact Ministries: ApostolicChristianFaith .com
All you have mentioned in this long long MAN MADE ARGUMENTS. YOU FORGET the most important fac. Here it its. The WHOLE thing was a shadow of things to come. ISRAEL/SHADOW OF THE BODY OF CHRIST- THE CHURCH The 12 son of Jacob were shadow of the apostles. DOES THIS MEAN. The apostles pre existed? You bragged about the spirit of christ in us. AND SAID THAT JESUS IS GOD BECAUSE OF THAT. Joshua had moses spirit. 🤷♂️ IS MOSES GOD ?
Is the argument here that, in the absence of the word "Roman", these soldiers may or may not have been Roman, and may therefore have had strong Jewish allegiances and beliefs, and may therefore have been afraid to arrest Jesus because they thought he could indeed be God's Chosen and Anointed One, whom they were afraid to confront? If that is the case then I think the arguments for Sabellianism are even less intellectually satisfying that the arguments for Trinitarianism, and we should stay on the same ground upon which the true Church has always rested regarding the nature of God saying, "I believe..." and never "I comprehend..."
None of your post made any sense to me.The argument in the video is not based on the absence of the word "Roman." We are told it was the temple guard. And what does Sabellianism have to do with anything here?
@@TheTrinityDelusion Sorry, I meant Arianism, not Sabellianism. The doctrine of the Trinity is simply based on what God has revealed about Himself in the Scripture, incomprehensible as it may be. As such it is purely a matter of faith, not argument. Yet you say, "The argument in this video..." Faith rests not on argument, comprehension, or the scientific method, but simply on testimony: "Faith cometh by hearing... and hearing by the Word of God" (Rom. 10:17). There are things which the understanding cannot grasp or measure. God's nature is one of these things. Any student of Hebrew can find, from the Bible's first chapter, many clear references to the plurality of God. And yet every true Christian believes there is but One God.
Wrong! First and most importantly this scripture: John 8:24 NASB - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” You must believe who Jesus is. The I am. This scripture you reference in the original text is not in the same order and means something different. "Not I Lord" is not the same as "I am". Matthew 26:22 NASB - Being deeply grieved, they each one began to say to Him, “Surely not I, Lord?” Also when John uses "ego eimi" he is also saying he is NOT the Christ. He is not the "I am". Don't take this man's word. Go to your Bible. Get an interlinear and do the study yourself. Don't be fooled. God bless you all.
He is 'exactly' who he was prophesied for hundreds of years to be, i.e. the human being Messiah, (the only 'begotten' Son of God). Jesus was a human being raised up by God just as God had promised Moses in Deut. 18.18. This prophecy was fulfilled 'exactly' as God promised it would be. Deut. 18.18 was fulfilled in the first chapter of John's Gospel. God's Word (the Father's Word) became flesh through the human being Messiah, Son of God. God put his words into Jesus. Jesus is NOT the (eternal) word of God as many proclaim. He denied being the word of God several times in the NT. The words that I speak, are not my own, but the Father's! His words belonged to his Heavenly Father, God. Jesus spoke all that he was commanded to, i.e. what God laid upon his heart. Jesus differs from us in this regard. He was born 'with' the Spirit of God. God poured his spirit into him without measure.We are born with our human nature only. We must be 'born again' with the same spirit as Jesus. In that way we become the same as him.
617ram mkay but if he is the mirror image of the father then doesnt that make him the father incarnate?? Also to be born again is only done by the work of christ not our repentance..
The Trinity Delusion maky but is he not the mirror image of the father?? Is he just another messiah then? How do i explain it? Is christ the only person? What is the father then? An energy?
'Man' (Adam) was created in the 'image' of God. This did not make him God. Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus is the 'mirror image' of God? It says he is the 'express image of God.' God the Father expressed himself both by word and deed 'through' his willing, subservient, only begotten Son, human being Jesus, just as was prophesied. God poured his Spirit into Jesus without measure and commanded him the words to say (put upon his heart. That's how God speaks to us). Time and again Jesus tells us the words he spoke and the works that he did were not his own, but were the Father's. This is how God works through every true believer. Nowhere in the OT was it prophesied that God himself, or any part of God, or any other spiritual being, would leave Heaven to come down to Earth and become a man. All the prophesies speak of God raising up a human being Messiah. Nothing more. It is the devil's work to deceive people into thinking that Jesus is God, or part of God, or that there's such a thing as the (Un)holy Trinity. Jesus is our obedient human being example to follow. We are born again by Christ sending the Holy Spirit into our lives (Act 2). Jesus was given authority in Heaven and Earth on his resurrection. He received his inheritance of the Father's power (i.e. the Holy Spirit) which he sends to us to empower us to become the Children of God through following Jesus in his way, truth and life, which will bring us to the Father,
Do you believe in God the father? God is Love, so why aren’t you teaching in Love? I can see the smirk on your face through your sarcastic voice. You’re almost laughing when talking about how Christians believe in the trinity. Are you an atheist? Are you really teaching to educate or to mock? I’m not offended, to do so would give you authority over me.
You are to secular ...you need to be more spiritual..then you can teach more clearly..are you born again..because there's something missing from your mind !!!
I don't He the time right now but wn I get back I'm going to straightened out all this guys teaching. Real quick, he says the soldiers didn't come back with Jesus. Da, Jesus keep saying it's not my time yet. He also said the solders thought Jesus was the Messiah, it doesn't say that, he said that, he added to the text. He said that the samaritan woman didn't fall back, again da, she didn't come to arrest Him. Why would the solders be afraid of Jesus when they didn't even have the same religion. By the way the only ones that can arrest anyone are the soldiers. When I come back I'm going to tell everyone why they fell. And it wasn't because their shoes were untied.
Wrong! Wow, you leave out so many other scriptures where Jesus asserts He is God. John 10:33 shows the Jews getting ready to stone Jesus for claiming not to be a mere man, but God Himself. John 14:9 Jesus claims "He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?". Finally, your errors are voluminous. Malkus was a relative of the servant of the high priest. So he was Jewish not Roman. If he was a leader who was he leading? He wouldn't be leaning Romans! Unfortunately if you continue on this path, you will be one of those that Jesus will identify as wicked, and throw you into everlasting darkness.
Also the soldiers didn't arrest him because of the way he spoke. The soldiers recognized the power of Word/teachings." You are a false teacher. You twist God's word, You lie by omission.
Moreover, you fail to recognize that Jesus accepted worship. And no man or angel in the Bible ever accepts worship without the guilt of blasphemy (which was the reason Jesus was crucified in the first place). Only God is worthy of man's worship. So your assertion that Jesus is not a part of the trinity, is denial of his being God. You instruct falsly and you point toward everlasting darkness.
It's difficult to add up all your theological errors, if you believed the Bible, then you would be asserting God failed. For example, if Jesus was just a mere King of israel, like David or Saul, he was never anointed with oil by a prophet, and never ascended the throne of israel. So God failed Whoops God made a mistake! Wow..
"And no man or angel in the Bible ever accepts worship without the guilt of blasphemy" Proskyneo worship is given to all sorts of men in Scripture. You speak from ignorance.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Thomas worshipped Jesus when he saw Him alive again. John 20:28 teaches that Thomas responded, "My Lord and my God!" You are not if us...
If you really believe in scripture I wonder if you have done the following? Have you came directly to Jesus? Matt 11:28-30-"**Come to me**, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." John 5:39-40-"You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of Me; and you are unwilling to **come to Me**, that you may have life." John 6:35-"I am the bread of life; **he who comes to Me** shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. John 6:37-"All that the Father gives Me **shall come to Me**; and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out." John 6:44-"No one can **come to Me**, unless the Father who sent Me draws him" John 6:45-"Every one who has heard and learned from the Father, **comes to Me.**" John 7:37-38-Now on the last day, the great [day] of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, "If any man is thirsty, **let him come to Me** and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, 'From his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water'". John 12:32-"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself." John 14:6-Jesus said to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father, **but by me**." Heb 13:13-let us go forth to him [Jesus] outside the camp... 1 Pet 2:25-For you were like sheep going astray, but **now you have returned to the Shepherd [Jesus]** and Overseer of your souls. Do you actually know Jesus personally? John 14:21-"I [Jesus] will love him, and will disclose Myself to him." John 17:3-"this is eternal life, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. Phil 3:10-that I may know Him, and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings... How much do you reallly love Jesus? Matt 20:37-"He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Eph 6:24-Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ with a love incorruptible. Phil 1:21-For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. What are you willing to do for Jesus? Matt 16:25-"whoever loses his life for My sake shall find it." Phil 3:8-Indeed I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as refuse, in order that I may gain Christ. How close of a personal relationship should you have with Jesus? John 14:23-"We will come to him, and make Our abode with him." John 15:4-5-"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me...apart from me you can do nothing." (Compare with Isaiah 60:21) John 17:23-"I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me." Rom 13:14-But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh... 1 Cor 1:9-you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 Cor 6:16,17-"The two will become one flesh." But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit. 2 Cor 12:9-I will rather boast about my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may dwell in me. 2 Cor 13:5-Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you... Gal 2:20-I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Gal 3:27-For as many of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Gal 4:6-And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!" Gal 4:19-My little children, with whom I am again in travail until Christ be formed in you! Eph 3:16-17-that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man; so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith... Eph 4:15-we are to grow up in all [aspects] into Him, who is the head, [even] Christ. Phil 4:7-And the peace of God, which passes all understanding, will keep your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. Col 2:6-As therefore you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so live in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith. Col 2:10-in Him you have been made complete... Col 3:11-Christ is all, and in all. 1 Pet 3:15-sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts... 1 John 1:3-our fellowship is with...His son Jesus Christ. Rev 3:20-Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any one hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him, and will dine with him, and he with Me. Do you pray to Jesus? John 14:14-"If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it." Acts 7:59-60-And they went on stoning Stephen as he called upon [the Lord] and said, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!" And falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them!" And having said this, he fell asleep. Acts 9:14-"and here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call upon thy [Jesus'-vs. 17] name." Acts 9:20-21-and immediately he [Saul] [began] to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues, saying, "He is the Son of God." And all those hearing him continued to be amazed, saying, "Is this not he who in Jerusalem destroyed those who called on this name, and [who] had come here for the purpose of bringing them bound before the chief priests?" Acts 22:16-"Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His [Jesus'] name." Acts 22:17-19-"And it came about when I returned to Jerusalem and was praying...I saw Him [Jesus] saying to me...And I said 'Lord...'" Rom 10:9,11-13-confess Jesus as Lord...For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed"...the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call upon Him; for "Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved." 1 Cor 1:2-to the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their [Lord] and ours: 2 Cor 12:8-9-Three times I besought the Lord about this, that it should leave me; but he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." I will all the more gladly boast of my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 1 Ti 1:12-I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me... Rev 22:20-Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
Who is that man of sin other than the fake Jesus who would dare to sit on the throne of God? The Lamb of God is not God - he's the Anointed, the heir and Son of God. The Trinity is the gods of Mystery Babylon - the antichrist pretending to be equal to God. Learn the difference.
ElCineHefe The Bible clearly reads Jesus is God. Romans 9:5 “Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, **God** blessed for ever. Amen” Hebrews 1:8 “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, **O God**, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.” (Cr. Psalms 45:6) 1 John 5:20 "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true **God**, and eternal life." John 1:1-2 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and **the Word was God**. He was with God in the beginning.Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made”. (Read a non NWT bible) "For in him dwelleth all **the fulness of the Godhead bodily**." Colossians 2:9 What is "Godhead" or "theotés" mean? Strong's Concordance theotés: deity Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: theotés Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace) Short Definition: **deity**, Godhead Definition: **deity**, Godhead. HELPS Word-studies 2320 theótēs (a feminine noun derived from 2316 /theós, "God") - the personal God revealed in the Bible who is triune and infinitely relational as demonstrated by the embodiment of the Godhead in the incarnated Christ (used only in Col 2:9). 2320 /theótēs ("fullness of deity") expresses God's "essential (personal) deity, as belonging to Christ" (WS, 906). 2320 (theótēs) focuses on Christ physically embodying the Godhead through His incarnation and shown throughout His perfect life of faith (cf. Heb 12:2). [For more on Christ's full deity, see 2316 /theós ("God") at Sidebar A.] NAS Exhaustive Concordance Word Origin from theos Definition deity NASB Translation Deity (1). Thayer's Greek Lexicon STRONGS NT 2320: θεότης θεότης, θεότητος, ἡ (deitas, Tertullian, Augustine (de civ. Dei 7, 1)), deity i. e. the state of being God, Godhead: Colossians 2:9. (Lucian, Icar. 9; Plutarch, de defect. orac. 10, p. 415 c.) [SYNONYMS: θεότης, θειότης: θεότης deity differs from θειότης divinity, as essence differs from quality or attribute; cf. Trench, § ii.; Lightfoot or Meyer on Colossians, the passage cited; Fritzsche on Romans 1:20.] Strong's Exhaustive Concordance godhead, **deity** From theos; divinity (abstractly) -- godhead. see GREEK theos biblehub.com/greek/2320.htm For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, **The mighty God**, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6 And Yahweh is called mighty God: "Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, **the Mighty God**, the LORD [Yahweh] of hosts, is his name," Jer. 32:18
+Jamaal Williams - you can only read it that way if your conscience is seared with the hot iron of the gods of the heathen since Nimrod. Your god is the antichrist. That's how you know you're under a strong delusion. The Lord is One and there is no trinity of gods beside Him like the gods of Egypt and Babylon and Rome.
+Jamaal Williams If you're not resurrected in an imperishable body, you're not born again as Christ said - you're just "born again" in the manner of the Masons.
So you deny the eternal God Jesus Christ? Romans 9:5 “Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen” 1 John 5:20 "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life." Colossians 2:9-10 “For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;” Bible > Strong's > Greek > 2320 ◄ 2320. theotés ► Strong's Concordance theotés: deity Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: theotés Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace) Short Definition: deity, Godhead Definition: deity, Godhead. Bible > Strong's > Greek > 2320 ◄ 2320. theotés ► Strong's Concordance theotés: deity Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine Transliteration: theotés Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace) Short Definition: deity, Godhead Definition: deity, Godhead. Jesus is worshiped! Matthew 14:33 Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, “Truly You are the Son of God.” Why? Because the Son of God is God who can receive worship, He is God in the flesh. Matthew 15:25: “Then she worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.” “When Jesus walked on the water and made the wind and waves cease, they worshipped Him, saying, truly thou art the Son of God.” (Matthew 14:33). Notice the equating of being the Son of God elicits their worship. Heb 1:6-And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him." Every creature worships Jesus: ‘Worthy is the Lamb who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing!’ And I heard EVERY CREATURE in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all therein, saying, ‘To him who sits upon the throne AND TO THE LAMB be blessing and honor and glory and might for ever and ever!’ And the four living creatures said, ‘Amen!’ and the elders fell down and worshiped."Revelation 5:1-14 Yet the Bible is clear only the Creator is to be worshiped: In Romans 1:25 it reads “Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen” Exodus 23:24 “Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God“ 2 Kings 17:35“When the LORD made a covenant with the Israelites, he commanded them: "Do not worship any other gods or bow down to them, serve them or sacrifice to them.”
The Trinity Delusion Here's an important question for you: Are you born again of the Spirit? It doesn't seem like it. Jesus said you must be born again to see His kingdom. The carnal mind can't comprehend scripture because it is spiritually discerned.
The Trinity Delusion But do you know Jesus personally? Have you met Him? Have you been born again? Do you love Jesus than any of your family members? Have you lost your life for Jesus' sake so you can gain it? Are you abiding in Christ? Do you have fellowship with Jesus?
Jesus was never a messiah or a king. The only 2 who were anointed to Yhwh were Pilate and Herod. Act_4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, WHOM THOU HAST ANOINTED, BOTH HEROD, AND PONTIUS PILATE, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together To sit on the judgment seat you had to be an anointed King of Israel by the priest to Yhwh Proverbs 20:8 A king who sits on the throne of justice Disperses all evil with his eyes. Psalm 9:7-8 But the Lord abides forever; He has established His throne for judgment, And He will judge the world in righteousness; He will execute judgment for the peoples with equity. Pilate and Herod both were Jewish and Kings of Israel John 19:13 Therefore when Pilate heard these words, he brought Jesus out, and sat down on the JUDGMENT SEAT at a place called The Pavement, but in Hebrew, Gabbatha. Matthew 27:19 While he was sitting on the JUDGMENT SEAT, his wife sent him a message, saying, “Have nothing to do with that righteous Man; for last night I suffered greatly in a dream because of Him.” There were TWO Jesus also one born to Mary and one sent from FATHER in Heaven Mat_1:16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, WHO IS CALLED CHRIST. Mat 27:17 So when they had gathered, Pilate said to them, “Whom do you want me to release for you: Barabbas [SON OF THE FATHER] , or JESUS WHO IS CALLED CHRIST?” Barabbas was also called Jesus in the old manuscripts and he was NOT a murder they mistranslated that on purpose. Jesus warns us in Matthew 24: 5 that calling him THE CHRIST is the number one deception of the end times. Mat 24:5 For many will come in my name, SAYING, ‘I AM THE CHRIST,’ and they will lead many astray. We have been decieved the entire world. One Jesus was sent by the real FATHER in heaven and one was earthly born here. The earthly one is the wrong one.
Socinian Unitarian Heresy “And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” Webster’s TranslationEven if we go with the translation, "He was manifested in the flesh" in 1 Timothy 3:16, the Unitarian Socinian view is still untenable. For who is the "HE" who pre-existed to manifest Himself in the flesh? Someone clearly had to exist as a “He” before “he was manifested in the flesh.” And again Heb. 2:14 says, "Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity" to be made “fully human in every way (Heb. 2:17).” Who then is the HE who SHARED IN OUR HUMANITY to be made "fully human in every way" (NIV)? Someone clearly had to exist as a “he” before being made “fully human in every way.” This is the precise meaning of John 8:57-59. “57Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” 58“Truly, truly, I tell you, Jesusdeclared, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59At this, they picked up stones to throw at Him. But Jesus hid Himself and slipped away from the temple area.…”When Jesus was asked, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have you SEEN ABRAHAM?" Jesus replied, "Before Abraham was born, I AM." Jesus did not say, “Before Abraham was born, I was” as if he was created before Abraham. By saying, “before Abraham was born, I am” in the context of John 8, Jesus affirmed that he always pre-existed as the timeless God of Exodus 3:14. For if Jesus meant the same thing as saying, “I am Jesus the Messiah”, then why would the Jewish Pharisees have “picked up stones to throw at him?” The Pharisees knew that Jesus had used “I AM” in the same manner that God the Father used “I AM” in Exodus 3:14. That is why they picked up stones to kill him. “God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you.'" Exodus 3:14 Benson’s Bible Commentary gives an accurate and thorough rendering of Exodus 3:14, “The Septuagint renders the words ειμι ο ων, I AM the existing Being, or HE WHO IS; and the Chaldee, I AM HE WHO IS, and WHO WILL BE. That is, I am He that enjoys an essential, independent, immutable, and necessary existence, He that IS, and WAS, and IS TO COME. It explains his name Jehovah, and signifies, 1st, That he is self- existent: he has his being of himself, and has no dependence on any other. And being self-existent, he cannot but be self-sufficient, and therefore all-sufficient, and the inexhaustible fountain of being and blessedness. 2d, That he is eternal and unchangeable: the same yesterday, to-day, and forever. For the words are with equal propriety rendered, I WILL BE WHAT I AM, or, I AM WHAT I WILL BE, or, I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE.” God did not tell Moses to say, “I AM GOD Almighty” which would have been grammatically accurate. God told Moses to say to the Israelites, “I AM has sent me to you” which implies a timeless existence. This is the equivalent of Jesus saying, “Before Abraham was born I AM” in John 8:58. For Jesus is the timeless great “I AM” of Abraham, Moses, and the prophets. “I AM” in Greek is “ego eimi.” Just as the English words “I AM” can be used for individual people, so the Greek New Testament uses “ego eimi” for people saying “I AM” in the normal context of those words. For example, John 18:4-6 says, “4Jesus, knowing all that was coming upon Him, stepped forward and asked them, “Who are you looking for?” 5“Jesus of Nazareth,” they answered. Jesus said, “I am (ego eimi).” And Judas His betrayer was standing there with them. 6When Jesus said, “I am,” they drew back and fell to the ground.…” Even though Jesus said, “I AM” in the normative context of being the man who was raised in Nazareth, the soldiers “fell to the ground.” However, John 8:58 proves that Jesus did not use “ego eimi” in the normative context of a created human being. He used these words in the same context that God used in Exodus 3:14, “I AM that I AM … I AM has sent me to you.” Jesus never responded by saying that he did not see Abraham. Jesus’ response proves that he not only pre-existed to SEE ABRAHAM, he also pre-exited as the great "I AM" of eternity past (Exodus 3:14). This is why Heb. 1:8-12 proves that Jesus is the One who created the heavens and the earth as Yahweh God the Father before becoming a human son (see Heb. 1:10, Psalm 102:25, Heb. 3:3-4).
So Jesus was really a Hindu avatar of God? Why are the gods of the Trinity identical to the gods of the heathen after the Lord said He was One with no foreign god beside Him? Maybe you're just worshipping the Trinity we left behind in Egypt?
ElCineHefe I don't believe in a trinity of three god persons. Jesus is the image of the invisible God as the image of the invisible Father with us as a true man through the virgin.
+Global Impact Ministries GOOD! But also know that the book of Enoch doesn't believe in the Trinity either because it shows us who the Messiah is, in relation to the Most High.
ElCineHefe Jesus is "God with us" as a true man rather than God with us as God. For the omnipresent God also became a true man through His own Holy Spirit descending upon the virgin (Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:20). Therefore Jesus is the brightness and glory of God the Father as the express image of the invisible Father Himself revealed (Heb. 1:3, Isaiah 53:1). When God's Holy Spirit reproduced Himself from His own substance of Being (Heb. 1:3), God also became a true man who could pray and be tempted just like all men. Scripture as well as the book of Enoch points to the Messiah as being a true man. However, scripture also indicates that Jesus is God who came Himself. "Say to those with anxious heart, "Take courage, fear not. Behold, YOUR GOD WILL COME with vengeance; The recompense of God will come, But HE WILL COME AND SAVE YOU." 5Then the eyes of the blind will be opened And the ears of the deaf will be unstopped.…" Isaiah 35:4 Who came to save us? GOD! Even the writings of the first and early 2nd century Christians wrote that Jesus the Son of God is God who became a man (Clement, Hermas, Mathetes, Ignatius, Aristides).
+Global Impact Ministries - no matter how hard you try to pretend that you aren't a polytheist when you've got three gods, you're just deceiving yourself as to being a monotheist of any kind. If you have three gods, it doesn't matter if they self-identify as females or self-identify as one - it's still a lie called polytheism.
@@vincentrabbit8497 Jesus Christ is a human man, our brother, our king, the Messiah, the Anointed at the right hand of God. God has no need to anoint or vindicate Himself or put Himself at His hand, he put Christ at His hand for His Son and for us, for him to be our high priest and servantking, not for Himself. In God are all things already. 1 John 16. Don't forget "have this mind in you." Read 1 John 17 also. Reading these passages honestly, if Jesus is God, all man are supposed to have the mind they are God and that they are God because they are one with God? No, foolishness.
@@SoftBreadSoft JESUS CHIRST IS THE ONLY LIVING GOD THAT BECOME FLESH AND SIT AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER.. REMEMBER GOD COME HUMAN AND REMEMBER JESUS CHIRST IS LIKE NO OTHER HUMAN HIS WAS MADE BY THE SOUL.. REMEMBER JESUS CHIRST IS THE ONLY LIVING GOD CALL THE FATHER AND HOLY SON IS THE WORD OF GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD CALL HOLY SPIRIT CALL TRINITY CALL AMEN HAIL MERRY IS THE MOTHER OF GOD BORN WITHOUT SIN AND HAIL MARY MADE A BABY WITHOUT A MEN BUT BY GOD AND MADE HOLY SPIRIT MADE JESUS CHIRST IN HAIL MERRY AND JESUS CHIRST IS THE SON OF GOD CALL THE WORD OF GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD.. REMEMBER YOU PEOPLE IN THE WESTERN WORLD DON'T READ THE BIBLE.. US ROMAN EASTERN CATHOLIC HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN JESUS CHIRST FROM THE TIME GOD WALK ON EARTH.. AND THE WESTERN WORLD JUST BROKE UP GOD WORDS.. VISIONS.. REMEMBER JESUS CHIRST TELL PHILIP IF YOU SEE JESUS CHIRST YOU HAVE SEEN THE FATHER AND THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE ONE.. JESUS CHIRST TELL US HIS NAME CALL I AM.. THE FRIST AND THE LAST.. I WILL TELL YOU GO TO GOD TRUE CHURCH CALL CATHOLIC AND YOU WILL SEE GOD HISTORY ON EARTH.. REMEMBER THE ROMAN EMPIRE TRY TO K1LL GOD BUT GOD MADE ROME GOD TRUE CHURCH CALL CATHOLIC CALL BIBLE CALL SAINT PETER CALL THE ROCK CALL THE POPE.. REMEMBER THE BIBLE YOU READ WAS MADE BY ROMAN CATHOLIC MONKS OVER 2000 YEARS AGO FROM 4 GOSPELS
He's definitely not and neither is Jesus Christ. Brother Kel submits to the only true God, the Father, and the anointed man, Jesus Christ the Son of God, whom was sent by the only true God. Repent and believe.
The Scriptural FACTS demonstrate that these men were afraid because they thought Jesus just might be God's Anointed One since to do anything offensive to their God's Anointed One would be a very serious offence to God Himself.
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While I both don't agree with certain Unitarian beliefs such as denying the pre-human existence of Christ as a divine being in heaven before coming to earth in human form.
And I thoroughly reject the claims of Trinitarians, this particular exegesis is nevertheless very good and biblically accurate.
I used to use my imagination for this Axaxa. Stellar vid.
The Romans mistreated the Jews “gods annroinred ones” what would a Jewish pesent have on them?
@@nathanh.6827Well the Yahdi (Judites) knew better. They feared The Almighty. The Romans didnt fear anyone including their own diety. So when The Messiah came forth and said Ego Ami or I am he, they knew he was the same person who did all those miracles had much power. Who knows why they were afraid, but i wonder if they afraid fire would come down and consume them, since that generation was obsessed with Elijah. Elijah was a Prophet who called fire from heaven and killed 3 groups of soildiers.
When Jesus said IAm it says they drew back that means took a step back and then fell down , kind of like a Jedi but the Holy Ghost knocked them down , to me HE was kind of like showing them I'm letting you take me , how many men were there like a hundred or more they all fell down at once wow wow
Thank You Brother , You're always like a cold drink in a very hot day! God Bless!
Al 3158 need some teeth
You nailed it again. Excellent explanation. Excellent website too. Thanks again.
thank you Kel for the clarity brought to this passage. I was just thinking that if the utterance of 'ego eimi' supernaturally threw these soldiers to the ground, I'm sure that the display of that supernatural power and might would not have the soldiers get up, approach Jesus and arrest him. If the Trinitarian interpretation were true, I think that that demonstration would have convinced the soldiers not to arrest Jesus.
Yes, that's another good point.
Our Lord Jesus was God in the Flesh. His word teaches Jesus and the Father are one. The Triune God, God the Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost. Three persons in one God. Jesus was God and His Word teaches this. Thank you Lord for your sacrifice to atone for our sins. We believe by faith in this and thank you Father for opening our hearts and minds to this salvation.
The God of Jesus is the only God there is. There is only one God - his God, the God of our Lord Jesus Christ. Any God which is not our Lord's God is a false God.
They fell back because Jesus didn't show a hint of fear and at a subconscious level they were startled by His strength.
LOUD AND CLEAR.
Thanks for this :) - it also helps clarify John 8:58 which some use to prove Jesus is the 'I AM' of Ex. 3:14. Truth is liberating, but also opens us up to new perpsectives in definition and context.
It is also clear from the other Gospels! The fight with the sword and Jesus performing his healing on the man's ear took place before Jesus took control of the situation and ask them who do you seek? As they had personally witnessed this miracle it only drives your point home more!
1: [Ego eimi] isn’t the divine name at Exodus 3:14
2: This is how a person would identify themselves. This is why [some] scholars translate it to say @I am he” or something similar.
3: The Greek word translated *band* or *cohort* does not need to refer to a Roman military unit.
4: Jesus identified himself unexpectedly to the soldiers (without fear).
5: These soldiers had been previously dispatched to arrest Jesus but had returned empty handed (afraid he might be the Christ)
6: Several OT passages illustrate the guilt associated with stretching your hand out against God’s Christ
7: The proper response to God’s Christ, God’s Chosen King over Israel, was to bow down low in obedient subjection to him.
good stuff.
how can u worship a pooping peeing human god?
John B
Thanks man!
The Name, how else could he be the sacrifice if he didn’t have a mortal body? Animal blood had to be shed annually but Christ’s blood is for eternity.
@@genecoppedge5972 that may well be, but which of my points were you replying to?
Shalom... Pl give the reference of 'ho on'...
Another small detail with large potential ramifications:-
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have a question..who do and should u pray to if God is the one being. I prayed to both Jesus and God but felt if I left Jesus out that I was bad. To me I thought you should only pray to God. Not jesus. can u tell me who to and a scripture stating just him.
Follow the example of Jesus. He prayed to his Heavenly Father and left us the beautiful 'example' prayer which begins with 'Our Father, which art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy name.....' That's from the best authority on the subject.
+617ram ......Amen. ....well said.
Eugene here. I want to answer Lyle Turgeon's question about who to pray to. I think about the question this way, who can I "talk to". It seems reasonable that I should be able to speak to anyone who can hear me and would invite me to share my thoughts. The disciples spoke with the man Messiah Jesus and they spoke to his and their God. They did not confuse the two in their mind or with their words. So my question is, can the man Jesus hear my words now and does he care to know what my concerns are? Is he in charge and is he my lord now? My answer is yes. So just as Peter spoke with both God and God's anointed, I see no reason why I can't do the same thing.
Lyle Turgeon I think you have pray to your creator even though you don't sure just look up the sky and pray to the one who created the world
Lyle Turgeon Yes you can and should pray to the son and or the Father for 2 reasons. 1. 1 Tim 2:5 says “For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Jesus is our access to the Father! Even when you pray to the Father directly you must pray “In Yahushus’s (Jesus ) name”John 14:13-14. Meaning that you are praying through the access given to you by the Son. Basically what this means is that all your prayers directed to the Father go to and through the Son otherwise the Father will not even acknowledging them! #2 we have examples in scripture of the disciples praying to Jesus -Acts 7:59-60 Stephen prays to Jesus to receive his spirit. Also read Rev 5 Jesus is be worshipped and glorified in heaven. Jesus said it best, “I and the Father are one”... We know this is not a claim that he is God but it still stands true that He is the representative of man to God and the representative of God to man and therefore not only can we pray to and through Him to the Father but me MUST! Blessings to you brother!
You need to be born again and receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Trinitarians always have to resort to this "you need special revelation outside of Scripture to understand the trinity." To which I answer 'No I don't.' If the apostles didn't teach it I don't need to believe it for salvation, ever.
Hi I think that Christs most abiding gift to mankind is that he taught us about the empowerment of Gods Holy Spirit.All we have to do is ask I for it to guide and empower us.It was always there manifest as the Shekinah but Christ made us aware that it was available to all.The Holy Spirit is NOT a person as the Greek word makes clear. "Pneuma' is akin to something flowing like the wind -thus we are said to be 'full' of IT, overflowing with IT. etc.Most religions try to paint themselves as 'exclusive' and that is where they go wrong.I regard the "Trinity' as a branding tool. Evangelicals tend to claim that this is unique and differentiates their 'brand' from other religions.I'm sure that God must feel great sorrow at how his people arrogantly claim to have exclusive access to the truth..
The holy spirit guides us when we listen and obey by reading the Bible then applying it personally. There is no extra-biblical revelation happening today. 2 Timothy 3:16,17 " All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God[ may be complete, equipped for every good work." Everything we need to know to be pleasing to God is in the Bible.
So, Mr learned? What exactly is your interpretation of the act that occurred in the Garden? Tell me, if everyone is using "i am" in the common sense, why would they all fall back as they did? Do you believe in the Trinity or don't you?
"why would they all fall back as they did? "
The context of John's Gospel tells you why.
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In Mathew 21:16 Jesus claims to fulfill prophecy that was prophesied about Jehovah in Psalm 8:2
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I can agree that the soldiers were afraid but I do not see that being afraid equates with all of them falling down... If it said that they backed up but that is NOT what scripture states... They FELL to the ground... respectfully, no matter how many times you repeat yourself it doesn't explain what happened. Thank you for your opinions
Same word used at Matthew 2:11.; 18:29; 26:39; Acts 10:25.
You missed the whole point 🤷♂️ THE WORD I AM are mentioned more than 50 times in the gospels.
AND NONE OF THEM says nothing about FELL to the ground.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK they fell to the ground BECAUSE. I AM?
Thank you!
Jesus claimed to be God in the Jewish context, claiming to be the "Great I Am" before the Pharisees. In John 8:58, he says, "Very truly I tell you... before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him. Why did they pick up stones to stone him? Because he didn't put a predicate on the end of I am? I am what? No. The reason they picked up stones to stone him is because he was claiming to be Yahweh by quoting Exodus 3:14, the burning bush.
You are mistaken. Jesus did not glorify himself concerning who he was. He said so.
@@TheTrinityDelusion I didn't write Jesus "Glorified Himself" you wrote that. Jesus' self identification as God is not self glorification. Contrary to Anti-Trinitarian views, the very reason the Jews sought to kill Jesus is supplied in Jn 10:33 "...For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, MAKEST THYSELF GOD."
@@Nickfredmanfredi "I didn't write Jesus "Glorified Himself" you wrote that. Jesus' self identification as God is not self glorification. "
You really need to work on your reading skills.
"Whom do you make yourself out to be?” 54 Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing; it is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God’
@@TheTrinityDelusion You claimed Jesus glorified himself. I didn't... You've claimed I made an argument that I didn't make. So you've gone on this tangent all by yourself. Everyone knows Jn 8:54 and I didn't even claim that Jesus glorified Himself. So the confusion is not mine.
@@Nickfredmanfredi " You claimed Jesus glorified himself. I didn't"
Yeah you did. Jesus said he does not glorify himself concerning who he is. You say he did indeed do just that at John 8:58.
Wonderful exegesis.
The Catholic Church brought the "holy trinity doctrine" into Christianity !
The trinity doctrine is not biblical.
There is one God, the Father.
Christ is His only begotten son and therefore divine (God by nature).
The spirit belongs to God and not a different person to him.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
God is God the Father !
Jesus is the SON OF God (Divine) !
and the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God that reveals all truth.
1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jn 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
That verse mean they are one in agreement !
once in purpose !
NOT one God in 3 !
or 3 in one God.
Joh 4:21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
These verses talk about our father who is spirit, and we are to worship him in spirit and in truth.
Many think that our God is a "mystery" which they call a Trinity.
The words of Jesus "Ye know not what ye worship" would apply if our God is a mystery.
When we get to heaven, God will not then say "Meet my spirit".
We will see God face to face, and we will know him.
The father of Jesus Christ.
Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Eph 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
The Pagan Roots of the Trinity (Playlist)
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Yes. That is the bottom line! That is where this whole thing began. They cannot go on ignoring the obvious implications of why not a single trinitarian term is found in scripture.
a typo at 00:17:40 -- Lk 22:52-53, not 24:52-53.
Good point but nearly half the video is repetition of the same thing over and over.
but then WHY did these jewish soldiers stand right back up and proceed to arrest him if they were so afraid that this might be the messiah..especially after falling down/bowing down to him? Then they rush in on the one they just bowed to thinking he is the Lords chosen one, the King of Israel and Peter chops off one of their ears in defense...Jesus immediately performs a miracle by restoring the soldiers ear..and they STILL arrest him!
Something wrong here
because, the devil came back into them. For a split second they perceived their weakness against God, but it didn't last, as satans lies came right back in.
Bro Kel - Your website is down.
So why have the Jews rejected Jesus as Messiah, whom their scriptures testified to so clearly and eloquently?
”Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me. 46 Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God.”
Could it be, perhaps, that God, the Father clouded their minds so they couldn't see that Jesus was the fulfillment of Jewish prophecy? But if He did so, could they be fairly judged accountable to God for their error?
How can any human be the offspring of Satan? I can see how the Pharisees may have had their understanding of who Jesus was clouded but their father being Satan doesn't seem to make sense.
I find you answer wrong. John 9:9 It did not say Jesus say; I am. The blind man did say. Am I right?
THE SPIRIT , THE LITE THE GLORY THE ALL I AM IN ALL ALLMITE GOD GIVES.
I am He is literally "I AM" (Gr. ego eimi), the divine Name. The power of this Name drives all His accusers to the ground. Even so, they do not repent.
You either did not listen to the whole presentation, or else you did, but are just very (VERY) stubborn, and thoroughly brain-washed.
I was walking into the library the other day and a gentleman bowed to me for some reason ...but friend's ...I am NOT GOD The Father 😄😁
Are you sure He wasn't praying facing towards the Mecca(Kabbah)?🤣
May God's peace and The Grace of Jesus be with you!❤️
At 7:20 into Dan Gill and Joel Hemphill’s “Great is the mystery of godliness” video, Joel Hemphill (a Socinian Unitarian) said that Jesus is "the exact likeness of the Father" when commenting on Hebrews 1:3.
How can Jesus be “the EXACTLY LIKE THE FATHER” and not be that Father with us reproduced as a true man through the virgin? For the only true God the Father said in Isaiah 46:9, "I am God and there is none else, I AM GOD AND THERE IS NONE LIKE ME?"
Since Jesus Christ is like God, He must be that "God with us" as a true man.
21st Century Reformation Unitarians affirm that the indwelling Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ while claiming that Jesus is only a mere man. Yet how can a mere man be omnipresent like God and not be that God?
No verse of scripture ever says that a created angelic being or created human being can be in more than one location at a time?
Only the Most High God "fills heaven and earth" (Jer. 23:24). Yet Jesus "fills all things" according to Ephesians 4:10.
“He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, so that HE MIGHT FILL ALL THINGS.” Ephesians 4:10 NASBOnly God is the omnipresent Spirit who can hear and answer prayer, but Jesus said in John 14:13, "If you shall ask anything in my name I WILL DO IT."
How can Jesus hear and answer prayers as God if he is not the omnipresent Spirit who fills all things?
Jesus said, "My sheep hear My voice and another they will not follow."
How can all of God's elect worldwide hear Jesus' voice if He is not the omnipresent God who became a man to save us?
The apostles believed that Christ was in them. "Christ in you the hope of glory (Col. 1:27)." Paul wrote "Christ lives in me” in Galatians 2:20.
How can Christ live in His Church if He is not the Spirit of God?
"You are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be THE SPIRIT OF GOD dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST he is not His." Romans 8:9"For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst." Matthew 18:20
Wherefore, the scriptures prove that “the Spirit of Christ” is “the Spirit of God” as the omnipresent Spirit who indwells true New Testament believers. If Jesus is only a mere man, then how can Socinian Unitarians explain how Jesus can be in the midst of multiple congregations around the world as the indwelling Spirit if he is only a man?
Furthermore, how can God's true Church be called "the bride of Christ" when the scriptures say we have only "One Husband."
"For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD (YHWH) of hosts (Isaiah 54:5)." "I betrothed you to ONE HUSBAND, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ (2 Cor. 11:2)."
If Christ is not the only true "God manifested in the flesh, justified in the Spirit" (1 Tim. 3:16) then we have two Spirit Husbands. Yet Paul wrote that we have "ONE HUSBAND" as we will be presented "as a pure virgin to Christ." That makes Jesus Yahweh God who came to save us as a man through the Hebrew virgin. "For your husband is your Maker, Whose name is the LORD (YHWH) of hosts (Isaiah 54:5)."Hosea 2:19 and Jer. 31:32 also state that the only true God is our spiritual Husband.
Arians (Jesus is an angel), Socinians (Jesus is just a man), and Trinitarians (Jesus is one of 3 Divine Persons) cannot explain how the church is presented to "ONE HUSBAND" who is Jesus Christ because inspired scripture calls the only true God the Father our husband ("the LORD YHWH" is "your husband" - Isaiah 54:5).
Can two or three divine persons be "one husband?" "I betrothed you to ONE HUSBAND, to present you as a pure virgin to Christ (2 Cor. 11:2)."
Can a mere man replace God as our "ONE HUSBAND" while our Heavenly Father expressly said that He is our husband?
Hebrews 1:3 and Hebrews 2:17 prove that the Spirit of God also became a true man by the Holy Spirit of the only true God descending upon the virgin (Luke 1:35; Matthew 1:18-23).
1 Corinthians 10:1-4 (NASB) says, "... our fathers WERE all under the CLOUD and all passed through the SEA; 2and all WERE BAPTIZED into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3and all ATE the same SPIRITUAL FOOD; 4and all DRANK the same SPIRITUAL DRINK, for they WERE DRINKING from A SPIRITUAL ROCK WHICH FOLLOWED THEM, and the ROCK WAS CHRIST."Paul clearly stated by inspiration that the Israelite fathers "WERE under the cloud" (the Spirit of God) "and all ATE the same SPIRITUAL FOOD." And they all "WERE BAPTIZED in the cloud and in the sea" (they experienced a type of water and Spirit baptism), "and all DRANK" from the Spirit of God. "For they WERE DRINKING from a Spiritual Rock which FOLLOWED THEM, and the ROCK WAS CHRIST."
Notice that the text says that "they were drinking from a Spiritual Rock which FOLLOWED THEM." Could the Israelites have not ate and drank from the same spiritual food and drink while the scriptures say that they did? Since inspired scripture says that "they were drinking from a Spiritual Rock which FOLLOWED them," we know that the "spiritual rock" is not talking about the literal rock at Horeb. Could the literal rock at Horeb have "FOLLOWED THEM" in the wilderness? Do literal rocks follow people?
We know that "the cloud by day and fire by night" followed the Israelites which clearly speaks of the Spirit of God which "WAS CHRIST" before his birth at Bethlehem. Thus proving that the Holy Spirit of the only true God the Father also became a man within the Hebrew virgin. For 2 Peter 1:21 says the Holy Spirit was in the prophets but 1 Peter 1:11 identifies that Spirit as “the Spirit of Christ” “in them” (in the prophets).
1 Corinthians 10:9 then says, "We should not test Christ (the Greek text says "Christos"), as some of them did--and were killed by snakes."
Inspired scripture says that some of the Israelites did "test Christ". For the words, "as some of them DID" could not somehow be interpreted to mean that they did not "test Christ." How could some of the Israelites have tested Christ if Christ did not pre-exist as the Holy Spirit of the only true God who "followed them" (the Israelite fathers) in the wilderness? Our Heavenly Father is repeatedly spoken of in scripture as being the Israelites Rock.
Psalm 18:2 says, "The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold." Deuteronomy 32:18 "You neglected the Rock who begot you, And forgot the God who gave you birth."
Psalm 18:31 - For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God,
Psalm 18:46 The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be the God of my salvation,
Psalm 19:14 - Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 28:1 "A Psalm of David. To You, O LORD, I call; My rock,
The LORD (YAHWEH) is repeatedly addressed as the Israelites Rock (“my rock” and “our rock”). When the apostles identified Christ as the Spiritual Rock of the Israelites, they proved that Jesus Christ pre-existed his virgin conception and birth as Yahweh the Spirit of our Heavenly Father.
Heb.1:2 says that God did not speak to the Israelites through "a son" until these "last days" because Jesus pre-existed his birth as God "the Spiritual Rock that FOLLOWED THEM" before becoming a son. Since the literal rock at Horeb did not "follow them" (the Israelites), nor supply spiritual drink ("they drank from that spiritual rock that followed them and that rock was Christ"), we know that Jesus pre-existed his birth as a child born and son given as the Spirit of God who followed the Israelites in the wilderness who "was Christ." Therefore we know that the Spiritual Rock that followed the Israelites "was Christ" as God before becoming a human son.
I have a long list of Socinian Unitarians who have either declined a Oneness verses Unitarian debate or have ignored my emails. I recently sent emails challenging Dan Gill and Joel Hemphill to a Oneness vs. Unitarian debate. Neither one of them has responded.
Anthony Buzzard (declined), Dale Tuggy (declined), Sean Finnegan (at first he seemed interested but later stopped responding to my emails), and Kel (declined) from Trinity Delusion have all either declined or ignored my emails.
If the 21st Century Reformation Unitarian view is correct, then why are all of their apologists afraid to debate their opponents?
Since the new reformationists have admitted that Jesus Christ is the indwelling Holy Spirit, they now have to explain how a mere man can now "fill all things" as the Holy Spirit of the Father without violating Isaiah 42:8 and Isaiah 46:9.
"I am Yahweh, that is My Name, and My glory will I not give to another." "I am God and there is none else, I am God and there is NONE LIKE ME."
How can Jesus be like God in being the omnipresent Spirit who “fills all things” (Gal. 4:6, Romans 8:9, Ephes. 4:10) and hears and answers prayer (John 14:13) if he is only a mere man?
John 5:23 says that all men should “honor the Son EVEN AS THEY HONOR THE FATHER.” If Jesus is just a man with no pre-existence as God, how then can we honor the Son “even as” we “honor the Father” without committing idolatry?
John 10:37 clearly affirms that Jesus does the works of the Father. Since “there is none like” God he must be that God who came to save us as a true man as Immanuel “God with us” manifested as a human “child born” and “son given.” More info at ApostolicChristianFaith .com
Now I can add Dr. Dustin Smith and a less well known Socinian apologist who goes by Michael Servetus (his real name is Robert Weiss) to my list of Unitarian Socinian apologists who have decided against debating me after corresponding with me via email. I sincerely hope that a Unitarian Socinian apologist will one day participate in a Oneness vs. Unitarian Socinian debate. Now I am working on debates with Trinitarian apologists Edward Dalcour (whom I am currently corresponding with) and James White who stated that he would put me on his list of debates in a video response against me (but he does not respond to his emails on his ministry website).
I am now giving up my efforts to obtain a debate with Socinians. There are two Arian / Semi-Arian apologists I will soon be contacting for debates. If there is anyone qualified, please email me through my ministry website contact page at Global Impact Ministries: ApostolicChristianFaith .com
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, Your'e completely confused by your Trinitarian belief.
All you have mentioned in this long long MAN MADE ARGUMENTS.
YOU FORGET the most important fac.
Here it its.
The WHOLE thing was a shadow of things to come.
ISRAEL/SHADOW OF THE BODY OF CHRIST- THE CHURCH
The 12 son of Jacob were shadow of the apostles.
DOES THIS MEAN. The apostles pre existed?
You bragged about the spirit of christ in us. AND SAID THAT JESUS IS GOD BECAUSE OF THAT.
Joshua had moses spirit. 🤷♂️
IS MOSES GOD ?
brilliant bro
Is the argument here that, in the absence of the word "Roman", these soldiers may or may not have been Roman, and may therefore have had strong Jewish allegiances and beliefs, and may therefore have been afraid to arrest Jesus because they thought he could indeed be God's Chosen and Anointed One, whom they were afraid to confront? If that is the case then I think the arguments for Sabellianism are even less intellectually satisfying that the arguments for Trinitarianism, and we should stay on the same ground upon which the true Church has always rested regarding the nature of God saying, "I believe..." and never "I comprehend..."
None of your post made any sense to me.The argument in the video is not based on the absence of the word "Roman." We are told it was the temple guard. And what does Sabellianism have to do with anything here?
@@TheTrinityDelusion Sorry, I meant Arianism, not Sabellianism. The doctrine of the Trinity is simply based on what God has revealed about Himself in the Scripture, incomprehensible as it may be. As such it is purely a matter of faith, not argument. Yet you say, "The argument in this video..." Faith rests not on argument, comprehension, or the scientific method, but simply on testimony: "Faith cometh by hearing... and hearing by the Word of God" (Rom. 10:17). There are things which the understanding cannot grasp or measure. God's nature is one of these things. Any student of Hebrew can find, from the Bible's first chapter, many clear references to the plurality of God. And yet every true Christian believes there is but One God.
@@e.p.collins4466 What does Arianism have to do with anything?
@@TheTrinityDelusion Arianism is the name of the anti-trinitarian Christological doctrine you are promoting on your channel.
@@e.p.collins4466 I'm afraid you don't know what you are talking about.
Dry as last years bird nest.
Looking for something to tickle your itching ears were ya?
Wrong! First and most importantly this scripture:
John 8:24 NASB - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
You must believe who Jesus is. The I am.
This scripture you reference in the original text is not in the same order and means something different. "Not I Lord" is not the same as "I am".
Matthew 26:22 NASB - Being deeply grieved, they each one began to say to Him, “Surely not I, Lord?”
Also when John uses "ego eimi" he is also saying he is NOT the Christ. He is not the "I am".
Don't take this man's word. Go to your Bible. Get an interlinear and do the study yourself. Don't be fooled. God bless you all.
You never bothered to read the context of John 8:24 did you? th-cam.com/video/o7idsNOrYsE/w-d-xo.html
so who is christ if not god?
He is 'exactly' who he was prophesied for hundreds of years to be, i.e. the human being Messiah, (the only 'begotten' Son of God). Jesus was a human being raised up by God just as God had promised Moses in Deut. 18.18. This prophecy was fulfilled 'exactly' as God promised it would be. Deut. 18.18 was fulfilled in the first chapter of John's Gospel. God's Word (the Father's Word) became flesh through the human being Messiah, Son of God. God put his words into Jesus. Jesus is NOT the (eternal) word of God as many proclaim. He denied being the word of God several times in the NT. The words that I speak, are not my own, but the Father's! His words belonged to his Heavenly Father, God. Jesus spoke all that he was commanded to, i.e. what God laid upon his heart.
Jesus differs from us in this regard. He was born 'with' the Spirit of God. God poured his spirit into him without measure.We are born with our human nature only. We must be 'born again' with the same spirit as Jesus. In that way we become the same as him.
617ram mkay but if he is the mirror image of the father then doesnt that make him the father incarnate?? Also to be born again is only done by the work of christ not our repentance..
"so who is christ if not god?"The Bible tells you who he is: God's son. Your question is a bit like asking, "so who is Solomon if not David?"
The Trinity Delusion maky but is he not the mirror image of the father?? Is he just another messiah then? How do i explain it? Is christ the only person? What is the father then? An energy?
'Man' (Adam) was created in the 'image' of God. This did not make him God. Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus is the 'mirror image' of God? It says he is the 'express image of God.' God the Father expressed himself both by word and deed 'through' his willing, subservient, only begotten Son, human being Jesus, just as was prophesied. God poured his Spirit into Jesus without measure and commanded him the words to say (put upon his heart. That's how God speaks to us). Time and again Jesus tells us the words he spoke and the works that he did were not his own, but were the Father's. This is how God works through every true believer. Nowhere in the OT was it prophesied that God himself, or any part of God, or any other spiritual being, would leave Heaven to come down to Earth and become a man. All the prophesies speak of God raising up a human being Messiah. Nothing more. It is the devil's work to deceive people into thinking that Jesus is God, or part of God, or that there's such a thing as the (Un)holy Trinity. Jesus is our obedient human being example to follow. We are born again by Christ sending the Holy Spirit into our lives (Act 2). Jesus was given authority in Heaven and Earth on his resurrection. He received his inheritance of the Father's power (i.e. the Holy Spirit) which he sends to us to empower us to become the Children of God through following Jesus in his way, truth and life, which will bring us to the Father,
Do you believe in God the father? God is Love, so why aren’t you teaching in Love? I can see the smirk on your face through your sarcastic voice. You’re almost laughing when talking about how Christians believe in the trinity. Are you an atheist? Are you really teaching to educate or to mock? I’m not offended, to do so would give you authority over me.
Try to be honest next time.
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You are to secular ...you need to be more spiritual..then you can teach more clearly..are you born again..because there's something missing from your mind !!!
Need your itching ears tickled?
Marvin Hesler
, please don't be blind, study the Bible, don't believe the Traditions of Men.
I don't He the time right now but wn I get back I'm going to straightened out all this guys teaching. Real quick, he says the soldiers didn't come back with Jesus. Da, Jesus keep saying it's not my time yet. He also said the solders thought Jesus was the Messiah, it doesn't say that, he said that, he added to the text. He said that the samaritan woman didn't fall back, again da, she didn't come to arrest Him. Why would the solders be afraid of Jesus when they didn't even have the same religion. By the way the only ones that can arrest anyone are the soldiers. When I come back I'm going to tell everyone why they fell. And it wasn't because their shoes were untied.
Wrong! Wow, you leave out so many other scriptures where Jesus asserts He is God. John 10:33 shows the Jews getting ready to stone Jesus for claiming not to be a mere man, but God Himself. John 14:9 Jesus claims "He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?". Finally, your errors are voluminous. Malkus was a relative of the servant of the high priest. So he was Jewish not Roman. If he was a leader who was he leading? He wouldn't be leaning Romans! Unfortunately if you continue on this path, you will be one of those that Jesus will identify as wicked, and throw you into everlasting darkness.
Also the soldiers didn't arrest him because of the way he spoke. The soldiers recognized the power of Word/teachings." You are a false teacher. You twist God's word, You lie by omission.
Moreover, you fail to recognize that Jesus accepted worship. And no man or angel in the Bible ever accepts worship without the guilt of blasphemy (which was the reason Jesus was crucified in the first place). Only God is worthy of man's worship. So your assertion that Jesus is not a part of the trinity, is denial of his being God. You instruct falsly and you point toward everlasting darkness.
It's difficult to add up all your theological errors, if you believed the Bible, then you would be asserting God failed. For example, if Jesus was just a mere King of israel, like David or Saul, he was never anointed with oil by a prophet, and never ascended the throne of israel. So God failed Whoops God made a mistake! Wow..
"And no man or angel in the Bible ever accepts worship without the guilt of blasphemy"
Proskyneo worship is given to all sorts of men in Scripture. You speak from ignorance.
@@TheTrinityDelusion Thomas worshipped Jesus when he saw Him alive again. John 20:28 teaches that Thomas responded, "My Lord and my God!" You are not if us...
If you really believe in scripture I wonder if you have done the following?
Have you came directly to Jesus?
Matt 11:28-30-"**Come to me**, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me; for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
John 5:39-40-"You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of Me; and you are unwilling to **come to Me**, that you may have life."
John 6:35-"I am the bread of life; **he who comes to Me** shall not hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
John 6:37-"All that the Father gives Me **shall come to Me**; and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out."
John 6:44-"No one can **come to Me**, unless the Father who sent Me draws him"
John 6:45-"Every one who has heard and learned from the Father, **comes to Me.**"
John 7:37-38-Now on the last day, the great [day] of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, "If any man is thirsty, **let him come to Me** and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, 'From his innermost being shall flow rivers of living water'".
John 12:32-"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself."
John 14:6-Jesus said to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father, **but by me**."
Heb 13:13-let us go forth to him [Jesus] outside the camp...
1 Pet 2:25-For you were like sheep going astray, but **now you have returned to the Shepherd [Jesus]** and Overseer of your souls.
Do you actually know Jesus personally?
John 14:21-"I [Jesus] will love him, and will disclose Myself to him."
John 17:3-"this is eternal life, that they may know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
Phil 3:10-that I may know Him, and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings...
How much do you reallly love Jesus?
Matt 20:37-"He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."
Eph 6:24-Grace be with all those who love our Lord Jesus Christ with a love incorruptible.
Phil 1:21-For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
What are you willing to do for Jesus?
Matt 16:25-"whoever loses his life for My sake shall find it."
Phil 3:8-Indeed I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as refuse, in order that I may gain Christ.
How close of a personal relationship should you have with Jesus?
John 14:23-"We will come to him, and make Our abode with him."
John 15:4-5-"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me...apart from me you can do nothing." (Compare with Isaiah 60:21)
John 17:23-"I in them and thou in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that thou hast sent me and hast loved them even as thou hast loved me."
Rom 13:14-But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh...
1 Cor 1:9-you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
1 Cor 6:16,17-"The two will become one flesh." But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit.
2 Cor 12:9-I will rather boast about my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may dwell in me.
2 Cor 13:5-Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you...
Gal 2:20-I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live but Christ who lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Gal 3:27-For as many of you who were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 4:6-And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, "Abba! Father!"
Gal 4:19-My little children, with whom I am again in travail until Christ be formed in you!
Eph 3:16-17-that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man; so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith...
Eph 4:15-we are to grow up in all [aspects] into Him, who is the head, [even] Christ.
Phil 4:7-And the peace of God, which passes all understanding, will keep your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.
Col 2:6-As therefore you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so live in him, rooted and built up in him and established in the faith.
Col 2:10-in Him you have been made complete...
Col 3:11-Christ is all, and in all.
1 Pet 3:15-sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts...
1 John 1:3-our fellowship is with...His son Jesus Christ.
Rev 3:20-Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any one hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him, and will dine with him, and he with Me.
Do you pray to Jesus?
John 14:14-"If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it."
Acts 7:59-60-And they went on stoning Stephen as he called upon [the Lord] and said, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!" And falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them!" And having said this, he fell asleep.
Acts 9:14-"and here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call upon thy [Jesus'-vs. 17] name."
Acts 9:20-21-and immediately he [Saul] [began] to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues, saying, "He is the Son of God." And all those hearing him continued to be amazed, saying, "Is this not he who in Jerusalem destroyed those who called on this name, and [who] had come here for the purpose of bringing them bound before the chief priests?"
Acts 22:16-"Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His [Jesus'] name."
Acts 22:17-19-"And it came about when I returned to Jerusalem and was praying...I saw Him [Jesus] saying to me...And I said 'Lord...'"
Rom 10:9,11-13-confess Jesus as Lord...For the Scripture says, "Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed"...the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call upon Him; for "Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved."
1 Cor 1:2-to the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their [Lord] and ours:
2 Cor 12:8-9-Three times I besought the Lord about this, that it should leave me; but he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." I will all the more gladly boast of my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
1 Ti 1:12-I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me...
Rev 22:20-Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
Who is that man of sin other than the fake Jesus who would dare to sit on the throne of God? The Lamb of God is not God - he's the Anointed, the heir and Son of God. The Trinity is the gods of Mystery Babylon - the antichrist pretending to be equal to God. Learn the difference.
ElCineHefe The Bible clearly reads Jesus is God.
Romans 9:5 “Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, **God** blessed for ever. Amen”
Hebrews 1:8 “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, **O God**, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.” (Cr. Psalms 45:6)
1 John 5:20 "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true **God**, and eternal life."
John 1:1-2 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and **the Word was God**. He was with God in the beginning.Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made”. (Read a non NWT bible)
"For in him dwelleth all **the fulness of the Godhead bodily**." Colossians 2:9
What is "Godhead" or "theotés" mean?
Strong's Concordance
theotés: deity
Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: theotés
Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace)
Short Definition: **deity**, Godhead
Definition: **deity**, Godhead.
HELPS Word-studies
2320 theótēs (a feminine noun derived from 2316 /theós, "God") - the personal God revealed in the Bible who is triune and infinitely relational as demonstrated by the embodiment of the Godhead in the incarnated Christ (used only in Col 2:9).
2320 /theótēs ("fullness of deity") expresses God's "essential (personal) deity, as belonging to Christ" (WS, 906). 2320 (theótēs) focuses on Christ physically embodying the Godhead through His incarnation and shown throughout His perfect life of faith (cf. Heb 12:2).
[For more on Christ's full deity, see 2316 /theós ("God") at Sidebar A.]
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from theos
Definition
deity
NASB Translation
Deity (1).
Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 2320: θεότης
θεότης, θεότητος, ἡ (deitas, Tertullian, Augustine (de civ. Dei 7, 1)), deity i. e. the state of being God, Godhead: Colossians 2:9. (Lucian, Icar. 9; Plutarch, de defect. orac. 10, p. 415 c.) [SYNONYMS: θεότης, θειότης: θεότης deity differs from θειότης divinity, as essence differs from quality or attribute; cf. Trench, § ii.; Lightfoot or Meyer on Colossians, the passage cited; Fritzsche on Romans 1:20.]
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
godhead, **deity**
From theos; divinity (abstractly) -- godhead.
see GREEK theos
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For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, **The mighty God**, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6
And Yahweh is called mighty God:
"Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, **the Mighty God**, the LORD [Yahweh] of hosts, is his name," Jer. 32:18
+Jamaal Williams - you can only read it that way if your conscience is seared with the hot iron of the gods of the heathen since Nimrod. Your god is the antichrist. That's how you know you're under a strong delusion.
The Lord is One and there is no trinity of gods beside Him like the gods of Egypt and Babylon and Rome.
ElCineHefe Get born again of the Spirit and share your testimony on how you met Jesus.
REPENT! And turn to the Lord and GOD Jesus Christ and be saved!
+Jamaal Williams If you're not resurrected in an imperishable body, you're not born again as Christ said - you're just "born again" in the manner of the Masons.
Quit saying Trinitarians and refer to those people as people of truth children of the Most High God
So you deny the eternal God Jesus Christ?
Romans 9:5 “Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen”
1 John 5:20 "And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life."
Colossians 2:9-10 “For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority;”
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◄ 2320. theotés ►
Strong's Concordance
theotés: deity
Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: theotés
Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace)
Short Definition: deity, Godhead
Definition: deity, Godhead.
Bible > Strong's > Greek > 2320
◄ 2320. theotés ►
Strong's Concordance
theotés: deity
Original Word: θεότης, ητος, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: theotés
Phonetic Spelling: (theh-ot'-ace)
Short Definition: deity, Godhead
Definition: deity, Godhead.
Jesus is worshiped!
Matthew 14:33 Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, “Truly You are the Son of God.” Why? Because the Son of God is God who can receive worship, He is God in the flesh.
Matthew 15:25: “Then she worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.”
“When Jesus walked on the water and made the wind and waves cease, they worshipped Him, saying, truly thou art the Son of God.” (Matthew 14:33). Notice the equating of being the Son of God elicits their worship.
Heb 1:6-And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him."
Every creature worships Jesus:
‘Worthy is the Lamb who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing!’ And I heard EVERY CREATURE in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all therein, saying, ‘To him who sits upon the throne AND TO THE LAMB be blessing and honor and glory and might for ever and ever!’ And the four living creatures said, ‘Amen!’ and the elders fell down and worshiped."Revelation 5:1-14
Yet the Bible is clear only the Creator is to be worshiped:
In Romans 1:25 it reads “Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen”
Exodus 23:24 “Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God“
2 Kings 17:35“When the LORD made a covenant with the Israelites, he commanded them: "Do not worship any other gods or bow down to them, serve them or sacrifice to them.”
Start here: www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/TTD/verses/romans9_5.html And here: www.angelfire.com/space/thegospeltruth/TTD/verses/1john5_20.html
The Trinity Delusion Here's an important question for you: Are you born again of the Spirit? It doesn't seem like it. Jesus said you must be born again to see His kingdom. The carnal mind can't comprehend scripture because it is spiritually discerned.
The begotten children of God know that their God is Jesus Christ's God, their Father.
The Trinity Delusion But do you know Jesus personally? Have you met Him? Have you been born again? Do you love Jesus than any of your family members? Have you lost your life for Jesus' sake so you can gain it? Are you abiding in Christ? Do you have fellowship with Jesus?
Why don't you watch my videos and find out? "You will know them by their fruits." You can also go here: th-cam.com/users/TheSavioursServant
Jesus was never a messiah or a king. The only 2 who were anointed to Yhwh were Pilate and Herod.
Act_4:27 For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, WHOM THOU HAST ANOINTED, BOTH HEROD, AND PONTIUS PILATE, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together
To sit on the judgment seat you had to be an anointed King of Israel by the priest to Yhwh
Proverbs 20:8 A king who sits on the throne of justice Disperses all evil with his eyes.
Psalm 9:7-8 But the Lord abides forever; He has established His throne for judgment, And He will judge the world in righteousness; He will execute judgment for the peoples with equity.
Pilate and Herod both were Jewish and Kings of Israel
John 19:13 Therefore when Pilate heard these words, he brought Jesus out, and sat down on the JUDGMENT SEAT at a place called The Pavement, but in Hebrew, Gabbatha.
Matthew 27:19 While he was sitting on the JUDGMENT SEAT, his wife sent him a message, saying, “Have nothing to do with that righteous Man; for last night I suffered greatly in a dream because of Him.”
There were TWO Jesus also one born to Mary and one sent from FATHER in Heaven
Mat_1:16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, WHO IS CALLED CHRIST.
Mat 27:17 So when they had gathered, Pilate said to them, “Whom do you want me to release for you: Barabbas [SON OF THE FATHER] , or JESUS WHO IS CALLED CHRIST?”
Barabbas was also called Jesus in the old manuscripts and he was NOT a murder they mistranslated that on purpose.
Jesus warns us in Matthew 24: 5 that calling him THE CHRIST is the number one deception of the end times.
Mat 24:5 For many will come in my name, SAYING, ‘I AM THE CHRIST,’ and they will lead many astray.
We have been decieved the entire world. One Jesus was sent by the real FATHER in heaven and one was earthly born here. The earthly one is the wrong one.
Socinian Unitarian Heresy
“And without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen by angels, preached to the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” Webster’s TranslationEven if we go with the translation, "He was manifested in the flesh" in 1 Timothy 3:16, the Unitarian Socinian view is still untenable. For who is the "HE" who pre-existed to manifest
Himself in the flesh? Someone clearly had to exist as a “He” before “he was manifested in the flesh.”
And again Heb. 2:14 says, "Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity" to be made “fully human
in every way (Heb. 2:17).”
Who then is the HE who SHARED IN OUR HUMANITY to be made
"fully human in every way" (NIV)? Someone clearly had to exist as a “he” before being made “fully human in every way.”
This is the precise meaning of John 8:57-59.
“57Then the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and You have seen Abraham?” 58“Truly, truly, I tell you, Jesusdeclared, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59At this, they picked up stones to throw at Him. But Jesus hid Himself and slipped away from the temple area.…”When Jesus was asked, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have you SEEN ABRAHAM?" Jesus replied, "Before Abraham was born,
I AM."
Jesus did not say, “Before Abraham was born, I was” as if he was created before Abraham. By saying, “before Abraham was born, I am” in the context of John 8, Jesus affirmed that he always pre-existed as the timeless God of Exodus 3:14. For if Jesus meant the same thing as saying, “I am Jesus the Messiah”, then why would the Jewish Pharisees have “picked up stones to throw at him?”
The Pharisees knew that Jesus had used “I AM” in the same
manner that God the Father used “I AM” in Exodus 3:14. That is why they picked up stones to kill him.
“God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you.'" Exodus 3:14
Benson’s Bible Commentary gives an accurate and thorough rendering of Exodus 3:14,
“The Septuagint renders the words ειμι ο ων, I AM the existing
Being, or HE WHO IS; and the Chaldee, I AM HE WHO IS, and WHO
WILL BE. That is, I am He that enjoys an essential, independent,
immutable, and necessary existence, He that IS, and WAS, and IS TO COME. It explains his name Jehovah, and signifies, 1st, That
he is self- existent: he has his being of himself, and has no dependence on any other. And being self-existent, he
cannot but be self-sufficient, and therefore all-sufficient, and the
inexhaustible fountain of being and blessedness. 2d, That he is eternal and unchangeable: the same yesterday, to-day, and forever. For the words are with equal propriety rendered, I WILL BE WHAT I AM, or, I AM WHAT I WILL BE, or, I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE.”
God did not tell Moses to say, “I AM GOD Almighty” which would have been grammatically accurate. God told Moses to say to the
Israelites, “I AM has sent me to you” which implies a timeless existence. This is the equivalent of Jesus saying, “Before Abraham was born I AM” in John 8:58. For Jesus is the timeless great “I AM” of Abraham, Moses, and the prophets.
“I AM” in Greek is “ego eimi.” Just as the English words “I AM” can be used for individual people, so the Greek New Testament uses “ego eimi” for people saying “I AM” in the normal context of those words. For example, John 18:4-6 says,
“4Jesus, knowing all that was coming upon Him, stepped forward and asked them, “Who are you looking for?” 5“Jesus of Nazareth,” they answered. Jesus said, “I am (ego eimi).” And Judas His betrayer was standing there with them. 6When Jesus said, “I am,” they drew back and fell to the ground.…”
Even though Jesus said, “I AM” in the normative context of being the man who was raised in Nazareth, the soldiers “fell to the ground.” However, John 8:58 proves that Jesus did not use “ego eimi” in the normative context of a created human being. He used these words in the same context that God used in Exodus 3:14, “I AM that I AM … I AM has sent me to you.”
Jesus never responded by saying that he did not see Abraham. Jesus’ response proves that he not only pre-existed to SEE ABRAHAM, he also pre-exited as the great "I AM" of eternity past (Exodus 3:14).
This is why Heb. 1:8-12 proves that Jesus is the One who created the heavens and the earth as Yahweh God the Father before becoming a human son (see Heb. 1:10, Psalm 102:25, Heb. 3:3-4).
So Jesus was really a Hindu avatar of God? Why are the gods of the Trinity identical to the gods of the heathen after the Lord said He was One with no foreign god beside Him?
Maybe you're just worshipping the Trinity we left behind in Egypt?
ElCineHefe I don't believe in a trinity of three god persons. Jesus is the image of the invisible God as the image of the invisible Father with us as a true man through the virgin.
+Global Impact Ministries GOOD! But also know that the book of Enoch doesn't believe in the Trinity either because it shows us who the Messiah is, in relation to the Most High.
ElCineHefe Jesus is "God with us" as a true man rather than God with us as God. For the omnipresent God also became a true man through His own Holy Spirit descending upon the virgin (Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:20). Therefore Jesus is the brightness and glory of God the Father as the express image of the invisible Father Himself revealed (Heb. 1:3, Isaiah 53:1).
When God's Holy Spirit reproduced Himself from His own substance of Being (Heb. 1:3), God also became a true man who could pray and be tempted just like all men.
Scripture as well as the book of Enoch points to the Messiah as being a true man. However, scripture also indicates that Jesus is God who came Himself.
"Say to those with anxious heart, "Take courage, fear not. Behold, YOUR GOD WILL COME with vengeance; The recompense of God will come, But HE WILL COME AND SAVE YOU." 5Then the eyes of the blind will be opened And the ears of the deaf will be unstopped.…" Isaiah 35:4
Who came to save us? GOD!
Even the writings of the first and early 2nd century Christians wrote that Jesus the Son of God is God who became a man (Clement, Hermas, Mathetes, Ignatius, Aristides).
+Global Impact Ministries - no matter how hard you try to pretend that you aren't a polytheist when you've got three gods, you're just deceiving yourself as to being a monotheist of any kind. If you have three gods, it doesn't matter if they self-identify as females or self-identify as one - it's still a lie called polytheism.
JESUS CHIRST IS CALL I AM = THE MESSIAH YOUR GOD = OUR SALVATION OUR LORD OUR AMEN = ONLY WAY TO PROTECT YOUR CHILD FROM DEATH PENALTY = HELL
Jesus responded I am* to the question of who is Jesus.
Read, brother.
@@SoftBreadSoft JESUS CHIRST IS GOD IN FLESH CALL MESSIAH
@@vincentrabbit8497 Jesus Christ is a human man, our brother, our king, the Messiah, the Anointed at the right hand of God.
God has no need to anoint or vindicate Himself or put Himself at His hand, he put Christ at His hand for His Son and for us, for him to be our high priest and servantking, not for Himself. In God are all things already.
1 John 16. Don't forget "have this mind in you." Read 1 John 17 also. Reading these passages honestly, if Jesus is God, all man are supposed to have the mind they are God and that they are God because they are one with God? No, foolishness.
@@SoftBreadSoft JESUS CHIRST IS THE ONLY LIVING GOD THAT BECOME FLESH AND SIT AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER.. REMEMBER GOD COME HUMAN AND REMEMBER JESUS CHIRST IS LIKE NO OTHER HUMAN HIS WAS MADE BY THE SOUL.. REMEMBER JESUS CHIRST IS THE ONLY LIVING GOD CALL THE FATHER AND HOLY SON IS THE WORD OF GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD CALL HOLY SPIRIT CALL TRINITY CALL AMEN HAIL MERRY IS THE MOTHER OF GOD BORN WITHOUT SIN AND HAIL MARY MADE A BABY WITHOUT A MEN BUT BY GOD AND MADE HOLY SPIRIT MADE JESUS CHIRST IN HAIL MERRY AND JESUS CHIRST IS THE SON OF GOD CALL THE WORD OF GOD AND THE WORD WAS GOD.. REMEMBER YOU PEOPLE IN THE WESTERN WORLD DON'T READ THE BIBLE.. US ROMAN EASTERN CATHOLIC HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN JESUS CHIRST FROM THE TIME GOD WALK ON EARTH.. AND THE WESTERN WORLD JUST BROKE UP GOD WORDS.. VISIONS.. REMEMBER JESUS CHIRST TELL PHILIP IF YOU SEE JESUS CHIRST YOU HAVE SEEN THE FATHER AND THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE ONE.. JESUS CHIRST TELL US HIS NAME CALL I AM.. THE FRIST AND THE LAST.. I WILL TELL YOU GO TO GOD TRUE CHURCH CALL CATHOLIC AND YOU WILL SEE GOD HISTORY ON EARTH.. REMEMBER THE ROMAN EMPIRE TRY TO K1LL GOD BUT GOD MADE ROME GOD TRUE CHURCH CALL CATHOLIC CALL BIBLE CALL SAINT PETER CALL THE ROCK CALL THE POPE.. REMEMBER THE BIBLE YOU READ WAS MADE BY ROMAN CATHOLIC MONKS OVER 2000 YEARS AGO FROM 4 GOSPELS
@@SoftBreadSoft GOD IS THE FATHER THAT BECOME FLESH CALL SON OF GOD AND GOD LEFT US ON EARTH HIS SOUL SPIRIT CALL BAPTISM..
you must be athesist
He's definitely not and neither is Jesus Christ. Brother Kel submits to the only true God, the Father, and the anointed man, Jesus Christ the Son of God, whom was sent by the only true God.
Repent and believe.
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