All my life I have been thinking and puzzled about the physics and kinetics involved in skiing without anyone to show the rope. A lot of coaching time was actually wasted in skiing as if it is a step by step dance where in actually facts its all about physics and kinetics. It's a mind game as well as a sport. Thanks Mr Mair. You made my day.
Hi Klaus and thank you very much for a very inspiring, educational and fun channel. I also enjoy to the fullest Marius channel and I'm a great fan of his work. The concept for this video is also great. I much enjoyed the analysis and brake down of Marius skiing and must say that the drill with the ski poles in hand had an additional positive impact on his already very good skiing technique. Well done. Reg Tom
@@KlausMair my ski and ski-instructor inspiration came from Harri Fitz from Partenen. Please drop me a line at tdk.skiracing@gmail.com to discuss this a bit further if you are interested. Reg Tom
Hi Klaus, impressive and eye-opening ski analysis video (as usual); even more so, as Marius is already a very good and talented skier. Looking forward to hopefully ski soon with you again, be it at one of your ski camps or at a one-on-one ski coaching session. Stay healthy.
Thank you! :) Here is the article to go with it: sofaski.com/more-performance-for-your-carving-turns-online-ski-analysis-marius-quast/ You might also like this one: th-cam.com/video/bySjAQqp-Os/w-d-xo.html Kind regards, Klaus
Klaus is one of the best ... love his advices and his skiing ... made me a much better skier ... now we are always facing the valley and pushing ourselves to the best we can do ... best greetings Arild
Great analysis Klaus, much apprecheated. Good to see all the basics and finetunings done in your camps. Will reflect your comments and tips on the videos we have done at the last camp. Hope to ski with you soon, stay healthy. But, a little bit less blur on yourself will be more ;)
@@KlausMair yep, I have. Look for a Godox softbox. There are many types availlable. Take one with or more 1 meter diameter. I can mail you some tips for lighting your studio.
Brilliant Klaus...great seeing you work with and share tips with such a high level skier...love the focus on getting the hips/weight/balance over the outside ski. It all just makes me want to spend the 21/22 season in Schruns and smash you for weekly camps. I’m now searching for everything on the Schruns Montafon area so watch out! 😉 Top class as usual and really super video 👍
Danke Klaus, this is great. I watched this on Mario's channel, but having poor Deustch skills I only partially understood. Thanks again. Cant wait to get on snow tomorrow and try the drills.
Hey Klaus! Perfect analysis - as always! Looking forward to our camp in January! Let´s hope we get out of this lockdown-horror soon! Ciao! Greg from Graz
I think it is his wide stance that contributes to too much pressure on the outside ski. The skis need to be working together in order to have better control over left/right pressure distribution.
@@KlausMair oh, yes, I meant too much pressure on the inside ski. But the main point I would like to make is that it is much easier to control inside/outside pressure when the feet are closer together. When the stance is too wide, it requires more effort to shift weight. Too many people think their stance needs to be wider for performance carving which is not true.
Yes I would agree to that up to a certain point. If it gets too narrow it gets harder again. Often the extra wide stance is a result of being too much on the inside or trying to get the hip on the snow.
@@KlausMair yes, I agree w/you that it is up to a certain point. What I think is best in most carving situations a stance width that “caters“ to equal tipping. The biomechanic alignment to the architecture of matching skis.
Sorry Klaus. I agree to disagree . IMO that is the symptom that he is inside , but the true root cause is he is forward in his for aft plane of balance ( hip and ankle) which causes his rotation plane to off then. I would fix his stance and help create better separation. Your thoughts?
That’s fine, but i have to disagree too. :) He is actually too far in the back, which would have been goal #2. It might look like he is too much fw as his upper body folds fw (which is a result of him getting over the inside too much) but his com is not. His com goes back and inside too much which causes the outside ski to lose grip esp. on the left footers. The fore aft movement is the same for the left and right footers. If your theory is correct we would see the same outcome on both sides, but there is a clear difference between the two.
I have to disagree to disagree then :) His COM is following his skis which is rotation causing him not to be able to balance over his outside ski. You can also a see his upper body ahead of his feet so then the Com is not supporting the BOS. You can see on the above camera this is clearly present on his eight footers but less in his right footers. Another symptom would be he looks back when the pressure comes on to late and then throws him up and back. Thoughts ?
@@Scandinavianalpscoffeeroasters Hi Adrian, I really don't understand what you are saying. His upper body collapses forward from time to time, a result of him moving too much over his inside, getting turned around a bit and not being able to hold it. His com following his skis is not causing rotation. The rotation is caused by him moving in there th-cam.com/video/uAo3UL8awF8/w-d-xo.html I don't think it is that complicated
Servus Klaus, gehe ich nicht Recht in der Annahme, dass man das Verhältnis zwischen Außen- und Innenskibelastung NICHT PAUSCHAL auf 80:20 festlegen sollte? Ohne Zweifel darf man von einer Führungsdominanz des Außenskis sprechen. Führungsdominanz bedeutet, dass der Außenski stärker belastet wird und durch die Kurve führt. Sie kann durch das Verlagern des Körperschwerpunkts zum Außenski hin erreicht werden; sie kann aber auch erreicht werden, indem der Außenski früher und stärker gekantet wird als der Innenski. Beim Carven ist es besonders wichtig, die Führung des Außenskis durch Kanten aufzubauen. Erst dann kann der Körper in eine ausgeprägte Kurvenlage abgesenkt werden. Der Außenski ist der grundsätzlich bestimmende Ski, der "Chef", der "Master". Dennoch sollte man das Verhältnis zwischen Außen- und Innenskibelastung nicht pauschal auf 80:20 festlegen. Hier kommt es auf verschiedene Faktoren an, wie die äußeren Bedingungen und den gewählten Fahrstil. Beim „Race-Carven“ wird die Außen-/Innenskibelastung stets an die Hangneigung und den Schwungwinkel anzupassen sein. Beim „Fun-Carven“ dagegen werden sogar beide Skier annähernd gleich belastet. Bei extremer Kurvenlage kann der Innenski sogar stärker als der Außenski belastet werden. Darauf hätte man m. E. schon eingehen sollen. Zudem ist ein Hinweis immer schön, dass die Bewertung nach EINER Lehrmethode erfolgt. Es gibt ja weiß Gott auch andere … Wer darüber mehr wissen möchte, darf mich gerne anschreiben. "Die dunkle Seite der Macht" ...
Verstehe Deine Frage nicht ganz, da alles eigentlich am Anfang des Videos erklärt wird: th-cam.com/video/uAo3UL8awF8/w-d-xo.html In der Fotomontage mit Innenlage reichen auch 50/50 oder weniger. Es hängt immer von der Situation ab. Die Analyse ist keine Bewertung sondern ein Erklärungsversuch was vor sich geht und wo/wie mAn optimiert werden könnte. Bewertet wird bei Dancing Stars. ;) Meine Analyse erfolgt nicht nach einer Lehrmethode sondern nach meiner Meinung gebildet in über 30 Jahren Erfahrung im Coaching und Skiunterricht. In meinem Team sind und waren Österreicher, Deutsche, Kanadier, Schweden, Amerikaner,... Die Ansätze sind zwar mitunter unterschiedlich, aber gutes Skifahren ist überall gutes Skifahren.
@@KlausMair Vielen Dank für deine ausführliche Antwort. Ich hatte deinen Hinweis zur "situationsbedingten Anpassung" so verstanden, dass er lediglich auf die Körperneigung zur Kurvenmitte hin bezieht. Vielleicht wäre es besser gewesen, dann bildlich die Zahlen und die Skala dann zeitgleich passend und kurz anzupassen. Nur ein Tipp für das nächste Video. Dann hätte selbst ich es verstanden 💡 Schön, dass du dich nicht auf eine Lehrmethode festlegst. Das finde ich sehr sympathisch und entspricht auch meiner Philosophie 👍🏻
@@oechercarver5236 Die angezeigte Graphik kommt vom Video von Marius. 80/20 passt auch als Faustregel für die meisten Situationen ganz gut. Gut, dass Du nachgefragt hast. ;) LG
👌. 'The outside ski is the Boss'.
All my life I have been thinking and puzzled about the physics and kinetics involved in skiing without anyone to show the rope. A lot of coaching time was actually wasted in skiing as if it is a step by step dance where in actually facts its all about physics and kinetics. It's a mind game as well as a sport. Thanks Mr Mair. You made my day.
Thank you! I am happy I could help. :) You can find more free content on sofaski.com/blog/ Greets, Klaus
Hi Klaus and thank you very much for a very inspiring, educational and fun channel. I also enjoy to the fullest Marius channel and I'm a great fan of his work. The concept for this video is also great. I much enjoyed the analysis and brake down of Marius skiing and must say that the drill with the ski poles in hand had an additional positive impact on his already very good skiing technique. Well done. Reg Tom
Thank you Tom. Good to connect on TH-cam. :) Keep up the good work! Greets, Klaus
@@KlausMair my ski and ski-instructor inspiration came from Harri Fitz from Partenen. Please drop me a line at tdk.skiracing@gmail.com to discuss this a bit further if you are interested. Reg Tom
@@Triggerboy62 that's too funny. my parents come from Partenen. I will send you an email. :)
Hi Klaus, impressive and eye-opening ski analysis video (as usual); even more so, as Marius is already a very good and talented skier. Looking forward to hopefully ski soon with you again, be it at one of your ski camps or at a one-on-one ski coaching session. Stay healthy.
Thank you Domenico! I look forward to seeing you soon and hope I can entertain you a bit until then. :) See you soon!
This is the best recommendation I ever got from TH-cam
Thank you! :) Here is the article to go with it: sofaski.com/more-performance-for-your-carving-turns-online-ski-analysis-marius-quast/ You might also like this one: th-cam.com/video/bySjAQqp-Os/w-d-xo.html Kind regards, Klaus
Klaus is one of the best ... love his advices and his skiing ... made me a much better skier ... now we are always facing the valley and pushing ourselves to the best we can do ... best greetings Arild
Thank you Arild! :) Have a great winter and stay in touch! Klaus
Great analysis Klaus, much apprecheated. Good to see all the basics and finetunings done in your camps. Will reflect your comments and tips on the videos we have done at the last camp.
Hope to ski with you soon, stay healthy.
But, a little bit less blur on yourself will be more ;)
Thank you Elmar.
And yes, less blur. Will order a lamp next week. Let me know if you have a recommendation! Stay well and stay in touch! :)
@@KlausMair yep, I have. Look for a Godox softbox. There are many types availlable. Take one with or more 1 meter diameter. I can mail you some tips for lighting your studio.
Thank you very much Elmar! :)
Klaus is one of the best .
This is a fantastic clip. I watched several times. It is really helpful! Great work!
Brilliant Klaus...great seeing you work with and share tips with such a high level skier...love the focus on getting the hips/weight/balance over the outside ski. It all just makes me want to spend the 21/22 season in Schruns and smash you for weekly camps. I’m now searching for everything on the Schruns Montafon area so watch out! 😉 Top class as usual and really super video 👍
Thank you Cam! Come to Schruns! You will love it! Here is some more info: spark.adobe.com/page/60OXeCrx3ZD81/ We will be back! :) Greets, Klaus
Danke Klaus, this is great. I watched this on Mario's channel, but having poor Deustch skills I only partially understood. Thanks again. Cant wait to get on snow tomorrow and try the drills.
Bitteschön! :) Have fun skiing!
Well explained and thank you
Hey Klaus!
Perfect analysis - as always! Looking forward to our camp in January! Let´s hope we get out of this lockdown-horror soon!
Ciao!
Greg from Graz
Thank you! :) I will send out the next newsletter with more infos soon. Have been a bit busy the last days. See you soon!
I think it is his wide stance that contributes to too much pressure on the outside ski. The skis need to be working together in order to have better control over left/right pressure distribution.
His problem is the opposite though. He gets too much on the inside ski,... as shown in the video.
@@KlausMair oh, yes, I meant too much pressure on the inside ski. But the main point I would like to make is that it is much easier to control inside/outside pressure when the feet are closer together. When the stance is too wide, it requires more effort to shift weight. Too many people think their stance needs to be wider for performance carving which is not true.
Yes I would agree to that up to a certain point. If it gets too narrow it gets harder again. Often the extra wide stance is a result of being too much on the inside or trying to get the hip on the snow.
@@KlausMair yes, I agree w/you that it is up to a certain point. What I think is best in most carving situations a stance width that “caters“ to equal tipping. The biomechanic alignment to the architecture of matching skis.
Great Klaus! ...very usefull
Thank you Matteo! :)
Sorry Klaus. I agree to disagree . IMO that is the symptom that he is inside , but the true root cause is he is forward in his for aft plane of balance ( hip and ankle) which causes his rotation plane to off then.
I would fix his stance and help create better separation. Your thoughts?
That’s fine, but i have to disagree too. :) He is actually too far in the back, which would have been goal #2. It might look like he is too much fw as his upper body folds fw (which is a result of him getting over the inside too much) but his com is not. His com goes back and inside too much which causes the outside ski to lose grip esp. on the left footers. The fore aft movement is the same for the left and right footers. If your theory is correct we would see the same outcome on both sides, but there is a clear difference between the two.
I have to disagree to disagree then :) His COM is following his skis which is rotation causing him not to be able to balance over his outside ski. You can also a see his upper body ahead of his feet so then the Com is not supporting the BOS. You can see on the above camera this is clearly present on his eight footers but less in his right footers.
Another symptom would be he looks back when the pressure comes on to late and then throws him up and back.
Thoughts ?
@@Scandinavianalpscoffeeroasters Hi Adrian, I really don't understand what you are saying. His upper body collapses forward from time to time, a result of him moving too much over his inside, getting turned around a bit and not being able to hold it. His com following his skis is not causing rotation. The rotation is caused by him moving in there th-cam.com/video/uAo3UL8awF8/w-d-xo.html I don't think it is that complicated
Man if this doesn’t pump you up you have no pulse
Cool
Servus Klaus,
gehe ich nicht Recht in der Annahme, dass man das Verhältnis zwischen Außen- und Innenskibelastung NICHT PAUSCHAL auf 80:20 festlegen sollte?
Ohne Zweifel darf man von einer Führungsdominanz des Außenskis sprechen. Führungsdominanz bedeutet, dass der Außenski stärker belastet wird und durch die Kurve führt. Sie kann durch das Verlagern des Körperschwerpunkts zum Außenski hin erreicht werden; sie kann aber auch erreicht werden, indem der Außenski früher und stärker gekantet wird als der Innenski. Beim Carven ist es besonders wichtig, die Führung des Außenskis durch Kanten aufzubauen. Erst dann kann der Körper in eine ausgeprägte Kurvenlage abgesenkt werden.
Der Außenski ist der grundsätzlich bestimmende Ski, der "Chef", der "Master".
Dennoch sollte man das Verhältnis zwischen Außen- und Innenskibelastung nicht pauschal auf 80:20 festlegen. Hier kommt es auf verschiedene Faktoren an, wie die äußeren Bedingungen und den gewählten Fahrstil.
Beim „Race-Carven“ wird die Außen-/Innenskibelastung stets an die Hangneigung und den Schwungwinkel anzupassen sein. Beim „Fun-Carven“ dagegen werden sogar beide Skier annähernd gleich belastet. Bei extremer Kurvenlage kann der Innenski sogar stärker als der Außenski belastet werden.
Darauf hätte man m. E. schon eingehen sollen. Zudem ist ein Hinweis immer schön, dass die Bewertung nach EINER Lehrmethode erfolgt. Es gibt ja weiß Gott auch andere …
Wer darüber mehr wissen möchte, darf mich gerne anschreiben. "Die dunkle Seite der Macht" ...
Verstehe Deine Frage nicht ganz, da alles eigentlich am Anfang des Videos erklärt wird: th-cam.com/video/uAo3UL8awF8/w-d-xo.html In der Fotomontage mit Innenlage reichen auch 50/50 oder weniger. Es hängt immer von der Situation ab. Die Analyse ist keine Bewertung sondern ein Erklärungsversuch was vor sich geht und wo/wie mAn optimiert werden könnte. Bewertet wird bei Dancing Stars. ;) Meine Analyse erfolgt nicht nach einer Lehrmethode sondern nach meiner Meinung gebildet in über 30 Jahren Erfahrung im Coaching und Skiunterricht. In meinem Team sind und waren Österreicher, Deutsche, Kanadier, Schweden, Amerikaner,... Die Ansätze sind zwar mitunter unterschiedlich, aber gutes Skifahren ist überall gutes Skifahren.
@@KlausMair
Vielen Dank für deine ausführliche Antwort. Ich hatte deinen Hinweis zur "situationsbedingten Anpassung" so verstanden, dass er lediglich auf die Körperneigung zur Kurvenmitte hin bezieht. Vielleicht wäre es besser gewesen, dann bildlich die Zahlen und die Skala dann zeitgleich passend und kurz anzupassen. Nur ein Tipp für das nächste Video. Dann hätte selbst ich es verstanden 💡
Schön, dass du dich nicht auf eine Lehrmethode festlegst. Das finde ich sehr sympathisch und entspricht auch meiner Philosophie 👍🏻
@@oechercarver5236 Die angezeigte Graphik kommt vom Video von Marius. 80/20 passt auch als Faustregel für die meisten Situationen ganz gut. Gut, dass Du nachgefragt hast. ;) LG
@@KlausMair
Na siehst du. Selbst solche Fragen können nützlich sein. Für irgendwas ist jeder gut ... 🤷♂️😉
Why do you Germans speak such perfect English