What it is... There's a sense of clout that came with being the first to put your hand on an unused record and flip it for the world to hear. That's why producers get up in their feelings.
I remember back around '92 Tim Dog was being interviewed on Westwood's show and had to set a caller straight who thought the east/west beefs were real. Tim was saying how him and Dre were talking about doing a dissing tour! If only we could've seen the damage these silly industry games would do.
FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN PHILLY, THERE WAS A RUMOR THAT THE WIZARD CED- GEE PRODUCED THE KROWN RULERS HIT " KICK THE BALL"! CED FINALLY CONFIRMED THIS. I COULD ALWAYS HEAR HIS SIGNATURE PRODUCTION ON THIS PHILLY AREA CLASSIC!!!!
Tuff Crew too. Listen to their early ish - sounds all Ced Gee/Paul C-ish to me. DJ Too Tuff has HUGE respect for MC's ultra & Paul C. (I've seen him give it up in interviews).
Sure does Been Rocking with Ultra Since 86 they got some killer b side joints they used to play on kiss FM joint they did for Dj Red Alert Called Bait! Yeeeeeeaaaahhhhhhhh! 😆 I love it being there from the start.
'We were asked to make a prison record' that's all you need to hear to evidence why the music took a down turn. Great interview, Ced is a Legend and tells is like it is.
We'll take yer Hip Hop Club membership card from yer fingers if you hate on Ultra!!!! If we whisper "Magnetic magnetic magnetic" and you don't reply "M.C Ultra" or "EMCEEEES!" Yer out the door on yer arse!!!!
Yo, they should do a movie. Netflix did Roxanne Shante! Why not Ultra? To be honest the best rapper movies I want to see. Ultra Mag! Run DMC! LL Cool J! Ice T
I get why, but pity Ced Gee has mixed feelings about Tim Dog's album, because it's a great album, and a personal favourite. To me, as an impressionable teen, it never came across as a negative record, just brazen bravado over some stupendous beats. Tim Dog was always riding that narrow line between real and larger-than-life charicature, that's what made him so entertaining. As a fan I'm kind of glad Ced didn't think that way then, because we would've missed out on a classic.
I agree. And the beats were out of this world great! Kool Keith himself were even amazed by what they cooked up for that album, just fantastic stuff. And as far as the lyrics on Fuck Compton for example, they felt like a breath of fresh air on release. "Fighting over colors? All that gang shit is for dumb motherfuckers!" Hahaha - still dope imo
Ced Gee, understandably, if you ask me, regretted producing the _song_ that precedented the NY-LA rap war. Yet the song-namely, Tim Dog's "Fuck Compton" single-was superficial. New Yorkers never took the song, let alone its rapper, seriously. Death Row Records' success, turning rap music into Top 10 popular music, soon incited New York rap fans' territorial aggression against Los Angeles rap. Industry sources would stage a NY-LA rap war, gratifying cultural forces that craved a NY-LA rap war, without Tim Dog.
Word. You ain't never lied hermano. Vlad stays interrupting his guests and rarely let's them elaborate when they answer. Not only that, but he stays trying to get his point across and sometimes even shouts over the person being interviewed. Now this fella Soren, he's respectful, knows his guests and their backgrounds, lets them fully answer the questions and also elaborate if need be. Based on this interview of Ced Gee alone, he gained another subscriber from yours truly.
I agree. Vlad's interviews have been a rushed assembly line. This man is a legend and Vlad just scratched the surface. It was disrespectful in my opinion.
I really appreciate that Sorin is giving Ced time a space to talk on these subjects, rather than cutting him off. Additionally, we're hearing more about things that relate to the music, and less about drama and negativity. PEACE
Ultra Mag MCs were loved in London. When they came over - the adulation they got was next level. They were pure 🔥 and pretty much worshiped like mini gods !
Despite what they did to Ced Gees production on finesse and synquis lp his tracks are fire on that LP. I still go back to them to this day. There the best cuts on the album by far🔥🔥🔥🔥
This may sound kinda dumb but...I think SAMPLING deserves a fucking movie! I'd love to see the history of samples, the road it took from it's original artist to the first Hip Hop DJs being inspired to use it at jams to the different Hip Hop artists and producers putting it on wax.
I remember buying Tim Dog 12" on vinyl. I played it all day everyday. In 88 I bought Critical Beatdown on vinyl and I was like a kid in a candy shop. Also Ced did the beats on Technology track with the Babe Ruth break, straight up 🔥🔥 This Ced dude strikes me as so humble in his interviews! I have the Chorus Line on 12", I was in awe of that track as a 16 year old in 88. I knew a Hip Hop dope record when I heard one back in the day!
Yeah definitely these guys were a phenomenon,I was about 13 listening to critical beatdown.Wish I was old enough to witnessed them live.✌️🇬🇧 Fighting over colours all that shit is for dumb motherfkrs.Tim Dog.💯💥
@7:30 so happy to hear him break that reality down . I've heard that soooo often and with that mythos of 'oh you found this or that'.. because they never heard of it they think they discovered it.. it's so shallow and very ignorant. Samples have opened up a world of Music many wouldn't have maybe pursued is a great positive aspect of it.
There are some here, EL KETER. We've got Ced Gee talking about why he Hates “Funk Your Head Up” & “Saga Of Dandy, The Devil & Day” Needing To Be Done. Here's the link, th-cam.com/video/Y0tyNbMM6v8/w-d-xo.html. Check it out & let us know what you think. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
25:00 Tuff Crew - Krown Rulers ... Philadelphia / Camden, New Jersey legends! 👑 Respect to LA Kidd, Tone Love The Teacher, Overlord Ice Dog, DJ Duece Ace Detonator Too Tuff, Grand Poobah and DJ Royal Rocker! 🔊💥🔥‼️
@@theredroadeast723 Ced-Gee added the Meters "Little Old Money Maker" break in there as well. Plus the 808's from the TR909 and Paul C. engineering the session. The song always sounded thick!!
This channel is so real and Soren is like an encyclopedia of Hip Hop history, it should have millions of followers! Always pays homage to the greats from the golden era 80s/90's, thats what sets this channel apart from any other. I ain't gonna lie, Penicillin On Wax has some of the hardest beats and rhymes, Tim Dog was badass, one of the best albums of the 90s. Ced Gee was such a great producer wit those rugged beats
Man, N. Thanks for the kind words about the channel & about #SorenBaker. We're glad to have him on the team. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
SALT-N-PEPA has been a runaways success story from the very beginning!! Herbie isn’t acknowledged (often) as really starting a trend and being one of the first in many categories to ever do it. SNP are releasing a biopic next year, so Herbie should get some spotlight on his name from that and hopefully with interviews that’ll follow, Herbie could be highlighted and a new generation can know who this producer is and all of his accomplishments.
This is a real brother so humbled and real and smart working in the arch7 field that made me respect him more it's so crazy because he's a legend and I'm just now knowing who he is dam the internet is good for something just became of the interview and his vlad interview I've learned a piece of history
Ced Gee pretty much confirmed what i've been saying for the last two & a half decades. A lot of my fellow Gen Xers are blaming the Millennials & Gen Zers for Rap/Hip-Hop's decline when it happened on our watch. It has gotten even worse since then...
Chorus Line was Super Hard we used to Dance Hard to this and that other B Side Joint by Nice and Smooth called No Bones in Ice Cream super dope time ! Man I can pull up constellations of dope music from this time!!
I always knew Tuff Crew & Ultras sound were similar. Ced or Soren if you look in these comments. How many trax did Ced do on the 1st Tuff Crew album???
@@ralphwashington3546 He did say that. But Ced Gee did not produce any tracks for Tuff Crew. I think he he meant the Krown Rulers on their joint debut EP/LP with Tuff Crew, where they had the aforementioned guest tracks. The first solo Tuff Crew album was Danger Zone in 1988. Apparently I've been told via LA Kidd from Tuff Crew he was taught how to use the SP12 by Ced Gee but Tuff Crew joints were produced in Philly by Dave (aka LA Kidd). Just check the credits on their albums. Ced Gee and Kool Keith are only credited on Phanjam (1987) www.discogs.com/artist/44983-Tuff-Crew Incidentally their are no Ced Gee credits for Larry Larr releases either, Chuck Nice from Three Times Dope is credited as producer. Ced Gee Credits : www.discogs.com/artist/91827-Ced-Gee?limit=500&type=Credits&filter_anv=0&page=1
@@RussRockwell it makes sense. The drum programing sounds similar. All my vinyl is in Fla and I take u at your word. I distinctively remember them shouting those u mentioned out on "Smooth Momentum" and I read those credits a thousand times 😂 and would have remembered seeing Ced's name. You sound like a hip-hop historian such as myself. Bless up. Thanks for the knowledge. So sad all those who paved the way didnt see the $ & notoriety thats out there nowadays. Alll the classics are still in my rotation HEAVY.
Sorry for the double comment BUT Hurby luv Bug must be the most feared man in hip hop. Considering what he contributed to the timeline no one has done a comprehensive you tube piece or doc on hurby luv bug Azor or next plateau records. Soren, what's up. Kwame talked about him a lil bit. But cmon man. Salt n Pepa. Kid n Play. Dana Dane.. then u gotta note the producers that branched off of that sound..he deserves it. The culture deserves it to connect the timeline.
That Tim dog album achully had some heat I picked it up in February of 92 by mistake after buying face first album I listened n was impressed for a few days but that face was on another level .
you allways can he a ced gee sound out of it !!! the snares hitting hart and the drum patter are very dope !!! i love the akeem you can win record he produce and the sequence and finesse !!! and the first tuff crew !!!!
please make a interview happen like this caliber !!! on dj daryl c from the 415 !!! or dj snake from nemisis from dallas or the total underrated E a Ski and CmT !!! one of that where be great !!! but first a good new year and be health !!!!!!!!!!
Hip Hop went from mostly conscious lyrical based party music and changed into nword, bword, drug dealing, street gangs, guns, death, murder, penitentiary, stripper, pimp, hoe, African-American genocide music in the early 1990s sponsored by mostly non African-American record label executives. I recall Too Short saying he wanted to put out a conscious album in the mid 1990s to balance all of the other type of music he did but the record label return that project and said that they wanted the pimp, player, mack, bword music from Too Short or his project would sit on the shelf. East Coast vs West Coast beef was originated & generated for profits at the expense of mostly African-Americans that cost some people their lives...Prophets or profits?
It's interesting that groups were actively trying to push the envelope for questionable content, then. At one point they weren't allowed to swear on record.
Salute to Ced-Gee ... The Moore just dropped the Biggest Bombs & revealed how the Enemy who controls our Art as well as the Planet conspired & used Our own Energy & Expression to Destroy Our people ... Then killed off the main participants , sort of like the Joker did in the beginning of the Dark Knight ... Thankfully a lot of Us control Our Music now 🎩
I really don't buy this conspiracy that Ced Gee is alluding to regarding the East Coast - West Coast beef being orchestrated as a way to 'divide and conquer' or undermine the rap world/ African Americans in general. He says Suge Knight made Tupac diss the East Coast - 1. Suge Knight is black anyway, and 2. Tupac was already dissing Big and Puff and had a vendetta against them - before Suge Knight signed him to Death Row. Tupac had a vendetta against anyone that pissed him off in any way - look at the way he treated the Hughes Brothers, Sam Sneed etc. If there was an ulterior driving force behind the beef - it was simply money. Record companies want to make money, that's why it's called the music business. We love music, but it makes people money, and money makes the world go around.
The "Fuck Compton/Wild in the Penile" origin is CRAZY!!! Musta been after that infamous "meeting" that planned 2 take rap 2 the negative space it's in now!!
"Hardcore was considered clever rhyming" THAT THAT THAT!!! ppl nowadays think hardcore rap is gangsta rap FUCK NO!!!! NO! NO! WRONG!! hardcore was always the battle rap/clever/lyricist rhymin. But like he said its those who wanted rap 2 become the bs that it is now...the variety is GONE
Yeah, Two Oclock. Tim Dog had some great production. The beats are credited to Sham. We don't know who/what that is, though. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
We'd be curious to find out, Nubian DNA. The credits say Sham, but we're not familiar with who/what team that is. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
Btw... didn't Krazy Bone talk on his pod cast of a letter/article about a secret meeting in 1991 where they talked about only signing violent rap artist, infuencing the kids with violent music and keeping the private prisons full? That the attendees of the meeting were given an apportunity to invest in the prisons by buying shares, and using there signing power to mislead generations.
From what we've been told & seen, it was like that before "Colors," Diallo Khari. The movie was watered down, by all accounts. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
Me and my good buddy DJ Derrick D played Ease Back at a party in Marrero,La. Back in 1989 the party people went crazy and then a guy came in and shot the place up. I quickly ducked behind the DJ Booth...while Ease Back was still playing...that was a crazy a** night.
Ced Gee stop lying!!!! That record with Tim Dog (God bless the dead) "Fu** Compton" was #155 on the Billboard 200 and #34 on the Bill Board R&B and Hip Hop Charts. Now that joint by Dre and Snoop "Dre Day" is a whole other story "wit yo mama and yo daddy hollerin baby!"
I've been a huge hip-hop fan my ENTIRE life. I never heard the F*ck Compton song in my life until I pulled it up for giggles a couple years ago. When Snoop and Dre was dissing Tim Dog on the Chronic, and DJ Quik was dissing him on Way 2 Fonky, I had no idea who they were talking about. If he says that was the #1 rap record for 2 months, I can't call him a liar, but it wasn't getting played at all where I was from.
Check the charts mate bill boards fall of 91 top 2 songs mind playing tricks on me at number 2 n tim dog fuck Compton sat at number 1 didn't believe it til I achully saw it either
Soren, I hope with this interview you understand why as great as the production and lyricism is, there is a reason that many of "us" have issues with the intentional nature of the "Gangster Rap" genre. A lot of it was pushed at the expense of the black community. I know you've heard the rumors of secret meetings and so forth.
@debiase101 you're totally correct, and it took some time for me to really let the quality of much of the music from that era to sink in. Like the Dogg Pound's "Dogg Food" is one of the greatest hip hop albums period, but you have to think about how that album, "Doggy Style", and "The Chronic" glamorized and programmed the criminal and prison life to the young generation at the time.🤦🏿♂️
@@esseen100 To an extent all parties are culpable.....from the artist to the executives....but the executives answer to the shareholders who only care about the bottom line. They don't care about the art/culture. The artist were willing accomplices that the industry used for a bigger agenda. It's more sad that this type of behavior continues, but I wonder why the artist won't name call the executives like they diss other rappers???
@@jman1562001 More important than the art, culture, artists, executives, and shareholders is the STATE OF THE COMMUNITY. That's what we exist in, what birthed the art and culture, and will be here long after everything else. The well being of the community should be prioritized over all else.
@@esseen100 Hence why hip-hop lives with the people...and rap music is the corporate version of it....Its why the community separates the two....Rap music is under occupation but hip-hop lives with the people and will morph into something else if need be!!! I remain nostalgic of what was, and support the new that carry on tradition.
Yeah, king esseen. #SorenBaker is aware of this & has discussed it in some interviews. The lesser gangster rap is potentially problematic. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt, as always.
Penicillin on wax is a masterpiece the drum loops is hard on it but tim dog was hardcore hip hop not gangsta rap he was against west coast hip hop and their gangsta rap and it was more out of competition and controversy
"NWA tried to suppress (Tim Dog's album)" ....uhmmm by then NWA broke up and had their own inner struggles. Besides, alot of Compton rappers replied to the "Fkk Compton" song like Dre and Snoop, DJ Quik, MC Eiht. Having said that, as a big west coast music fan (as well as real east coast hip hop one as well) and a Los Angeles native...I loved that Tim Dog album. The production, the satire, and Tim Dog's delivery of his lyrics almost as it was the dopest shit even though it wasnt lol. But definetly a classic album
Penillin On Wax is a classic in my book, will always be. Wild In The Penile was just a ridiculous record, a fuck it kinda song, hiphop is full of them, nothing to be ashamed of or anything. Dante Ross said they made a video for Secret Fantasies though, that is somewhere in someones vault. THAT would be something to see haha
I made my friends based on if they liked ULTRAMAGNETIC ..All my childhood friends we have one thing in common. WE LOVED ULTRAMAGNETIC.. PHILLY LOVED ULTRAMAGNETIC FROM JUMP. The conspiracy to control and destroy hip hop and misguide the youth... shocking. But not surprised.
Ultramagnetic MC’s need their flowers immediately if not sooner. Well over due. Salute
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Amen those tracks still bang soooo hard
Critical Beatdown is one of the best albums ever
@@greedokenobi3855 no doubt....a classic forever
Flowers? That's gay.
Wow. Ced Gee is a true pioneer. Soren- this interview with Ced is way better than Vladtv's.
Agreed. Soren seems to have a vast knowledge of hip hop, unlike Vlad who is more of a Culture Vulture.
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Rap is a art you don't own no loops its how you hook them up in your rhyme style troop
-Guru
What it is... There's a sense of clout that came with being the first to put your hand on an unused record and flip it for the world to hear. That's why producers get up in their feelings.
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Agreed, Fredicago Illanoise. But that Guru line is on point. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
I remember back around '92 Tim Dog was being interviewed on Westwood's show and had to set a caller straight who thought the east/west beefs were real. Tim was saying how him and Dre were talking about doing a dissing tour!
If only we could've seen the damage these silly industry games would do.
@debiase101
Yep. 20/20 hindsight 👀
It was all fun , great days great tune
Jermaine Long Tim dog performed at my club nite on Charing Cross Road, London. Dude shut it down. 💥🎤💯
@@rustyjames6622
Where/when? I only saw him at the Brixton Academy - he signed my "Step to me" 12" afterwards. Cool dude.
We took it serious here in LA.
FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN PHILLY, THERE WAS A RUMOR THAT THE WIZARD CED- GEE PRODUCED THE KROWN RULERS HIT " KICK THE BALL"! CED FINALLY CONFIRMED THIS. I COULD ALWAYS HEAR HIS SIGNATURE PRODUCTION ON THIS PHILLY AREA CLASSIC!!!!
Nice, JAMAL GRAY. Ced Gee has produced plenty of gems. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
Tuff Crew too. Listen to their early ish - sounds all Ced Gee/Paul C-ish to me. DJ Too Tuff has HUGE respect for MC's ultra & Paul C. (I've seen him give it up in interviews).
Soren Baker approaches this like a true historian!!
YEAH MAN. #UniqueAccessEnt does the damn thang. vlad who????????
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Sure does Been Rocking with Ultra Since 86 they got some killer b side joints they used to play on kiss FM joint they did for Dj Red Alert Called Bait! Yeeeeeeaaaahhhhhhhh! 😆 I love it being there from the start.
'We were asked to make a prison record' that's all you need to hear to evidence why the music took a down turn. Great interview, Ced is a Legend and tells is like it is.
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Basically, supports everything that Special Ed was saying 😒
We need a Ced Gee produced Kool Keith album
Yes!
Actually, We Need A New Ultramagnetic Mc's album.
@@bernardcuthbert2174 not sure about that.....the reunion album they did around 2005/6 was trash
UltraMagnetic are God's in Europe!!
We'll take yer Hip Hop Club membership card from yer fingers if you hate on Ultra!!!!
If we whisper "Magnetic magnetic magnetic" and you don't reply "M.C Ultra" or "EMCEEEES!"
Yer out the door on yer arse!!!!
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I always enjoy Ced Gee interview he always speaks truth
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We Need a Ultramagtic MCs Biopic another Epic interview Respect.
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Yo, they should do a movie. Netflix did Roxanne Shante! Why not Ultra? To be honest the best rapper movies I want to see. Ultra Mag! Run DMC! LL Cool J! Ice T
@@lettingyouknow1 100%
Shout out Ced Gee. Ultra magnetic sound laid the foundation to what I thought funky in hip hop sounded like.
RZA learnt from Ced Gee. Ill fight anyone who says different 🤫
@@GOAT-HRDRZ facts 💯
@@GOAT-HRDRZ facts 💯
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Ced Gee very insightful brother
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I get why, but pity Ced Gee has mixed feelings about Tim Dog's album, because it's a great album, and a personal favourite. To me, as an impressionable teen, it never came across as a negative record, just brazen bravado over some stupendous beats. Tim Dog was always riding that narrow line between real and larger-than-life charicature, that's what made him so entertaining. As a fan I'm kind of glad Ced didn't think that way then, because we would've missed out on a classic.
I agree. And the beats were out of this world great! Kool Keith himself were even amazed by what they cooked up for that album, just fantastic stuff. And as far as the lyrics on Fuck Compton for example, they felt like a breath of fresh air on release. "Fighting over colors? All that gang shit is for dumb motherfuckers!" Hahaha - still dope imo
We hear you, Phoenix 1200. It's interesting hearing what Ced Gee had to say. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
The beats on the LP are incredible for sure, pentagramparsons. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
Ced Gee, understandably, if you ask me, regretted producing the _song_ that precedented the NY-LA rap war. Yet the song-namely, Tim Dog's "Fuck Compton" single-was superficial. New Yorkers never took the song, let alone its rapper, seriously.
Death Row Records' success, turning rap music into Top 10 popular music, soon incited New York rap fans' territorial aggression against Los Angeles rap. Industry sources would stage a NY-LA rap war, gratifying cultural forces that craved a NY-LA rap war, without Tim Dog.
I'm enjoying this interviews more than Vlad's
definitely
Word. You ain't never lied hermano. Vlad stays interrupting his guests and rarely let's them elaborate when they answer. Not only that, but he stays trying to get his point across and sometimes even shouts over the person being interviewed. Now this fella Soren, he's respectful, knows his guests and their backgrounds, lets them fully answer the questions and also elaborate if need be. Based on this interview of Ced Gee alone, he gained another subscriber from yours truly.
Soren Baker focuses more on the Hip Hop and technical aspect of artists and not the controversy. That's why I respect him.
I agree. Vlad's interviews have been a rushed assembly line. This man is a legend and Vlad just scratched the surface. It was disrespectful in my opinion.
Definitely. Soren is a true hip hop historian and scribe.
Overseas express a totally different appreciation for our craft.
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Excellent interview....respect to you both.
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I really appreciate that Sorin is giving Ced time a space to talk on these subjects, rather than cutting him off. Additionally, we're hearing more about things that relate to the music, and less about drama and negativity.
PEACE
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Ultra Mag MCs were loved in London. When they came over - the adulation they got was next level. They were pure 🔥 and pretty much worshiped like mini gods !
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Another great interview with the legendary Ced Gee. Bro. Ced is a true trend-setter in the world of Hip Hop!
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Great Interview!!
salute
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Despite what they did to Ced Gees production on finesse and synquis lp his tracks are fire on that LP. I still go back to them to this day. There the best cuts on the album by far🔥🔥🔥🔥
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We love Ced Gee's work on there, olskool71. But that title track was great, too. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt, as always.
Another banger interview Soren, good job.
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This may sound kinda dumb but...I think SAMPLING deserves a fucking movie!
I'd love to see the history of samples, the road it took from it's original artist to the first Hip Hop DJs being inspired to use it at jams to the different Hip Hop artists and producers putting it on wax.
That would be interesting for sure, Mr. Taylor. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
I remember buying Tim Dog 12" on vinyl.
I played it all day everyday.
In 88 I bought Critical Beatdown on vinyl and I was like a kid in a candy shop.
Also Ced did the beats on Technology track with the Babe Ruth break, straight up 🔥🔥
This Ced dude strikes me as so humble in his interviews!
I have the Chorus Line on 12", I was in awe of that track as a 16 year old in 88.
I knew a Hip Hop dope record when I heard one back in the day!
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Yeah definitely these guys were a phenomenon,I was about 13 listening to critical beatdown.Wish I was old enough to witnessed them live.✌️🇬🇧 Fighting over colours all that shit is for dumb motherfkrs.Tim Dog.💯💥
Penicillin On Wax is one of my top 5 albums ever. Ced Gee murdered that shit!🤘🏽
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Straight UP Ultra Godz in Europe.
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Eddie Sancho was great engineer too!
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We used to dance our asses off to FUNKY at Latin quarters
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thanks for part 2!
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He was referring to Marley Mark at 7:33 Marley claims BDP stole his drums for The Bridge Is Over, which used Impeach the President.
Great interview,and alot of interesting information. SALUTE
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@7:30 so happy to hear him break that reality down . I've heard that soooo often and with that mythos of 'oh you found this or that'.. because they never heard of it they think they discovered it.. it's so shallow and very ignorant. Samples have opened up a world of Music many wouldn't have maybe pursued is a great positive aspect of it.
I'm waiting for some 'Four Horsemen' jewels.
There are some here, EL KETER. We've got Ced Gee talking about why he Hates “Funk Your Head Up” & “Saga Of Dandy, The Devil & Day” Needing To Be Done. Here's the link, th-cam.com/video/Y0tyNbMM6v8/w-d-xo.html. Check it out & let us know what you think. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
Soren is a true hip hop historian
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I was their when Ced and Ultra came over to the UK.lt was 1990 at a place called Dingwalls, in Camden London. I was 16 years old.
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Magnificent work SB each and every time.
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25:00 Tuff Crew - Krown Rulers ... Philadelphia / Camden, New Jersey legends! 👑
Respect to LA Kidd, Tone Love The Teacher, Overlord Ice Dog, DJ Duece Ace Detonator Too Tuff, Grand Poobah and DJ Royal Rocker! 🔊💥🔥‼️
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Ease Back was just The Grunt reversed with Ced Gee hard ass drums.
Word, those drums were earth-shaking!
@@theredroadeast723 Ced-Gee added the Meters "Little Old Money Maker" break in there as well. Plus the 808's from the TR909 and Paul C. engineering the session. The song always sounded thick!!
@@blackpegasus1807 *808's from the TR808 🤓👍
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This channel is so real and Soren is like an encyclopedia of Hip Hop history, it should have millions of followers! Always pays homage to the greats from the golden era 80s/90's, thats what sets this channel apart from any other. I ain't gonna lie, Penicillin On Wax has some of the hardest beats and rhymes, Tim Dog was badass, one of the best albums of the 90s. Ced Gee was such a great producer wit those rugged beats
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Thought he was going to mention PE as one of the three groups with the in your face type of sound.
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Another great interview!
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Incredible interview! History lesson
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SALT-N-PEPA has been a runaways success story from the very beginning!! Herbie isn’t acknowledged (often) as really starting a trend and being one of the first in many categories to ever do it.
SNP are releasing a biopic next year, so Herbie should get some spotlight on his name from that and hopefully with interviews that’ll follow, Herbie could be highlighted and a new generation can know who this producer is and all of his accomplishments.
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This is a real brother so humbled and real and smart working in the arch7 field that made me respect him more it's so crazy because he's a legend and I'm just now knowing who he is dam the internet is good for something just became of the interview and his vlad interview I've learned a piece of history
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Ultramagtic MCs Need to Tour England in 2020 it will be a sold out Hip Hop Concert
Great Interview. Ain't It Good 2 Ya... Cj Ace!
I'm a big fan of Ced Gee for his contribution to Hip Hop!
Ced Gee pretty much confirmed what i've been saying for the last two & a half decades. A lot of my fellow Gen Xers are blaming the Millennials & Gen Zers for Rap/Hip-Hop's decline when it happened on our watch. It has gotten even worse since then...
Gen-X help bury the body...
@@GOAT-HRDRZ YEP!!
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@@UniqueAccessEnt Thank you for interviewing one of my music heros!!
Mannnn Ced Gee be having them stories man! Respect
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Chorus Line was Super Hard we used to Dance Hard to this and that other B Side Joint by Nice and Smooth called No Bones in Ice Cream super dope time ! Man I can pull up constellations of dope music from this time!!
I love Ced, that's my GUY!!! 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯❤💪🏽 #25th
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Vlad biting your interviews.
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I always knew Tuff Crew & Ultras sound were similar. Ced or Soren if you look in these comments. How many trax did Ced do on the 1st Tuff Crew album???
He produced 2 tracks on the Phanjam LP (B-Boy Document and Kick The Ball) for Krown Rulers not Tuff Crew.
@@RussRockwell he also said Tuff Crew towards the end of that segment as well as Larry Lar if Im not mistaken my brother??
@@ralphwashington3546 He did say that. But Ced Gee did not produce any tracks for Tuff Crew. I think he he meant the Krown Rulers on their joint debut EP/LP with Tuff Crew, where they had the aforementioned guest tracks. The first solo Tuff Crew album was Danger Zone in 1988. Apparently I've been told via LA Kidd from Tuff Crew he was taught how to use the SP12 by Ced Gee but Tuff Crew joints were produced in Philly by Dave (aka LA Kidd).
Just check the credits on their albums. Ced Gee and Kool Keith are only credited on Phanjam (1987) www.discogs.com/artist/44983-Tuff-Crew
Incidentally their are no Ced Gee credits for Larry Larr releases either, Chuck Nice from Three Times Dope is credited as producer. Ced Gee Credits : www.discogs.com/artist/91827-Ced-Gee?limit=500&type=Credits&filter_anv=0&page=1
@@RussRockwell it makes sense. The drum programing sounds similar. All my vinyl is in Fla and I take u at your word. I distinctively remember them shouting those u mentioned out on "Smooth Momentum" and I read those credits a thousand times 😂 and would have remembered seeing Ced's name. You sound like a hip-hop historian such as myself. Bless up. Thanks for the knowledge. So sad all those who paved the way didnt see the $ & notoriety thats out there nowadays. Alll the classics are still in my rotation HEAVY.
Ralph Washington, Ced Gee & #SorenBaker will be talking about this in their next interview. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
Sorry for the double comment BUT Hurby luv Bug must be the most feared man in hip hop. Considering what he contributed to the timeline no one has done a comprehensive you tube piece or doc on hurby luv bug Azor or next plateau records. Soren, what's up. Kwame talked about him a lil bit. But cmon man. Salt n Pepa. Kid n Play. Dana Dane.. then u gotta note the producers that branched off of that sound..he deserves it. The culture deserves it to connect the timeline.
Agreed. Hurby was that nigga and he gets ZERO real mention.
I would even say that Hurby luv bug pre-empted New Jack Swing
@@dirtyglovekennels616 he did..that's the branches I was talkin about but I didnt want to stay on my soap box. If u know then know.
Heard recently he took a lot of credit for other people producing but idk how much truth there is in that
I been waiting for someone to do a Hurry Luvbug interview. In the mid to late 80s he put out a lotta bangers.
That Tim dog album achully had some heat I picked it up in February of 92 by mistake after buying face first album I listened n was impressed for a few days but that face was on another level .
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Face wasn't mess with Tim Dog
Soren Baker v/s Dj vlad
Winner: Soren Baker
Both did the interview with Ced Gee.
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Unique Access Ent. Definitely!!!!
I remember Finesse & Synquis would you believe I still have that tape, wow.
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you allways can he a ced gee sound out of it !!! the snares hitting hart and the drum patter are very dope !!! i love the akeem you can win record he produce and the sequence and finesse !!! and the first tuff crew !!!!
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please make a interview happen like this caliber !!! on dj daryl c from the 415 !!! or dj snake from nemisis from dallas or the total underrated E a Ski and CmT !!! one of that where be great !!! but first a good new year and be health !!!!!!!!!!
Loving this 100%
Hip Hop went from mostly conscious lyrical based party music and changed into nword, bword, drug dealing, street gangs, guns, death, murder, penitentiary, stripper, pimp, hoe, African-American genocide music in the early 1990s sponsored by mostly non African-American record label executives. I recall Too Short saying he wanted to put out a conscious album in the mid 1990s to balance all of the other type of music he did but the record label return that project and said that they wanted the pimp, player, mack, bword music from Too Short or his project would sit on the shelf. East Coast vs West Coast beef was originated & generated for profits at the expense of mostly African-Americans that cost some people their lives...Prophets or profits?
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The bicoastal rap war, a charade, was about more than merely monetary profit.
It's interesting that groups were actively trying to push the envelope for questionable content, then. At one point they weren't allowed to swear on record.
Salute to Ced-Gee ... The Moore just dropped the Biggest Bombs & revealed how the Enemy who controls our Art as well as the Planet conspired & used Our own Energy & Expression to Destroy Our people ... Then killed off the main participants , sort of like the Joker did in the beginning of the Dark Knight ... Thankfully a lot of Us control Our Music now 🎩
debiase101 Nah ... it was was waaaay Bigger than that , and still is ...
Vibe mag was just one of the tools they utilized
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Vibe definitely played a significant role in that, debiase101. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
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I really don't buy this conspiracy that Ced Gee is alluding to regarding the East Coast - West Coast beef being orchestrated as a way to 'divide and conquer' or undermine the rap world/ African Americans in general.
He says Suge Knight made Tupac diss the East Coast - 1. Suge Knight is black anyway, and 2. Tupac was already dissing Big and Puff and had a vendetta against them - before Suge Knight signed him to Death Row.
Tupac had a vendetta against anyone that pissed him off in any way - look at the way he treated the Hughes Brothers, Sam Sneed etc.
If there was an ulterior driving force behind the beef - it was simply money. Record companies want to make money, that's why it's called the music business. We love music, but it makes people money, and money makes the world go around.
At 19 minutes 50 seconds my mind was blown
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The "Fuck Compton/Wild in the Penile" origin is CRAZY!!! Musta been after that infamous "meeting" that planned 2 take rap 2 the negative space it's in now!!
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Mad love for Ced and the ultramagnetic family
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STRAIGHT UP G. RESPECT FROM THE UK. Always respected the ULTRA CREW from my teens.
CED=LEGEND we still listen to your famous verses and of course its a chorus line. Decades are piling up, stil the best.
thats tru !!! we love the real of the culture in rap !!!
The most important part was « if I would have known better, I would’ve have participated »
ZAPP ALSO..The original CALIFORNIA LOVE...
*Ronnie Hudson & The Street People - 'West Coast Poplock'
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@@UniqueAccessEnt I LOVE what yall got going on ...
WrecksN Effects used that sample also
Ultra magnetic mc's was the bomb when it hit the waves in 86 with "ego trippin". Damn I miss those years.
Tim Dog Penicillin On Wax is one of my top 5 gangsta rap albums of 90's hands down, the beats were hard af and Dog killed it every track
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"Hardcore was considered clever rhyming" THAT THAT THAT!!! ppl nowadays think hardcore rap is gangsta rap FUCK NO!!!! NO! NO! WRONG!! hardcore was always the battle rap/clever/lyricist rhymin. But like he said its those who wanted rap 2 become the bs that it is now...the variety is GONE
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@@UniqueAccessEnt i wish i COULD say it has been an evolution...instead it has DEvolved we MUST bring it back
Who produced the 2nd Tim Dog album? Those beats were hard too
TR Love and Moe Love I think!!
Yeah, Two Oclock. Tim Dog had some great production. The beats are credited to Sham. We don't know who/what that is, though. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
We'd be curious to find out, Nubian DNA. The credits say Sham, but we're not familiar with who/what team that is. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
Btw... didn't Krazy Bone talk on his pod cast of a letter/article about a secret meeting in 1991 where they talked about only signing violent rap artist, infuencing the kids with violent music and keeping the private prisons full? That the attendees of the meeting were given an apportunity to invest in the prisons by buying shares, and using there signing power to mislead generations.
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Yeah, I guess that secret's out now. Shout out to the CAA.
Unique you guys need to tweak the sound quality on your interviews, please! The TH-cam Ads drown out everything else!
@19:45 .. super heavy. yeah it's not warranted.. it's to cause chaos.
It's to be bad that didn't mention Public Enemy their music was definitely sonically sound
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even the gang shit was spoken into existence. was it not? before colors movie was it really like that?
From what we've been told & seen, it was like that before "Colors," Diallo Khari. The movie was watered down, by all accounts. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt.
Me and my good buddy DJ Derrick D played Ease Back at a party in Marrero,La. Back in 1989 the party people went crazy and then a guy came in and shot the place up. I quickly ducked behind the DJ Booth...while Ease Back was still playing...that was a crazy a** night.
Soren, Ced Was Talking About The Grunt By The JB's.
Dingwalls London, Ultra Magnetic MCs nuff said! if you know you know. Kings.
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Ced Gee stop lying!!!! That record with Tim Dog (God bless the dead) "Fu** Compton" was #155 on the Billboard 200 and #34 on the Bill Board R&B and Hip Hop Charts. Now that joint by Dre and Snoop "Dre Day" is a whole other story "wit yo mama and yo daddy hollerin baby!"
I've been a huge hip-hop fan my ENTIRE life. I never heard the F*ck Compton song in my life until I pulled it up for giggles a couple years ago. When Snoop and Dre was dissing Tim Dog on the Chronic, and DJ Quik was dissing him on Way 2 Fonky, I had no idea who they were talking about. If he says that was the #1 rap record for 2 months, I can't call him a liar, but it wasn't getting played at all where I was from.
Check the charts mate bill boards fall of 91 top 2 songs mind playing tricks on me at number 2 n tim dog fuck Compton sat at number 1 didn't believe it til I achully saw it either
To OP, where were you living in '91 to not hear F*** Compton???
Soren, I hope with this interview you understand why as great as the production and lyricism is, there is a reason that many of "us" have issues with the intentional nature of the "Gangster Rap" genre. A lot of it was pushed at the expense of the black community. I know you've heard the rumors of secret meetings and so forth.
@debiase101 you're totally correct, and it took some time for me to really let the quality of much of the music from that era to sink in. Like the Dogg Pound's "Dogg Food" is one of the greatest hip hop albums period, but you have to think about how that album, "Doggy Style", and "The Chronic" glamorized and programmed the criminal and prison life to the young generation at the time.🤦🏿♂️
@@esseen100 To an extent all parties are culpable.....from the artist to the executives....but the executives answer to the shareholders who only care about the bottom line. They don't care about the art/culture. The artist were willing accomplices that the industry used for a bigger agenda. It's more sad that this type of behavior continues, but I wonder why the artist won't name call the executives like they diss other rappers???
@@jman1562001 More important than the art, culture, artists, executives, and shareholders is the STATE OF THE COMMUNITY. That's what we exist in, what birthed the art and culture, and will be here long after everything else. The well being of the community should be prioritized over all else.
@@esseen100 Hence why hip-hop lives with the people...and rap music is the corporate version of it....Its why the community separates the two....Rap music is under occupation but hip-hop lives with the people and will morph into something else if need be!!! I remain nostalgic of what was, and support the new that carry on tradition.
Yeah, king esseen. #SorenBaker is aware of this & has discussed it in some interviews. The lesser gangster rap is potentially problematic. Thanks for watching & supporting #UniqueAccessEnt, as always.
When you diss someone for no reason it is called Tim Dogging
I do remember Tim Dogg saying in an interview that some label wanted him to have a Jheri Curl and make West Coast-sounding shit, which pissed him off.
They murdered everyone involved? Hummmmmmm, interesting. Soren just said let me go back to a music question.
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@@UniqueAccessEnt And thank you for the great content!
Ced Gee killed it on Secret Fantasies.
Penicillin on wax is a masterpiece the drum loops is hard on it but tim dog was hardcore hip hop not gangsta rap he was against west coast hip hop and their gangsta rap and it was more out of competition and controversy
When a pet does the trick it gets a treat!
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"NWA tried to suppress (Tim Dog's album)" ....uhmmm by then NWA broke up and had their own inner struggles. Besides, alot of Compton rappers replied to the "Fkk Compton" song like Dre and Snoop, DJ Quik, MC Eiht. Having said that, as a big west coast music fan (as well as real east coast hip hop one as well) and a Los Angeles native...I loved that Tim Dog album. The production, the satire, and Tim Dog's delivery of his lyrics almost as it was the dopest shit even though it wasnt lol. But definetly a classic album
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I thought this was unique mecca audio channel. Lol. This is nice tho.
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Cee God hitting you wit the Bait!
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Penillin On Wax is a classic in my book, will always be. Wild In The Penile was just a ridiculous record, a fuck it kinda song, hiphop is full of them, nothing to be ashamed of or anything. Dante Ross said they made a video for Secret Fantasies though, that is somewhere in someones vault. THAT would be something to see haha
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"Goin Wild In the Penile" outro is fuckin horrifying
Give the DruMMer Some 👏🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍
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#Funky !!! #is #my #wake #up #song #on #repeat... #WHOAAA !!!
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I made my friends based on if they liked ULTRAMAGNETIC ..All my childhood friends we have one thing in common. WE LOVED ULTRAMAGNETIC.. PHILLY LOVED ULTRAMAGNETIC FROM JUMP. The conspiracy to control and destroy hip hop and misguide the youth... shocking. But not surprised.
Thats dedication 👏 😂✌
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