The Calusa had a fascinating civilization that rarely ever gets the attention it deserves. They built artificial islands, large temple mounds and complex fisheries. I once read that they’re the only “advanced” or “complex” society in known human history to ever be established entirely around Aquaculture and without ever developing Agriculture.
The ancient marina at mound key was impressive. The scale was huge: many trade canoes could be handled at once, with no waiting time to load/offload. Very smart ~
@@youknowwhyimhere756 I was just about say that the only reason i could think of for disliking the presentation would be because of a dislike for and a disapproval of the truth & reality of the information presented. And that is exactly what your response confirms! This logic and reasoning is deeply flawed & contradictory, and utterly foolish! This is certainly obvious to most... Such behavior is a great example of "shooting/killing the messenger" (who bears bad news)... Neither this video nor its producers are in ANY way responsible for colonialism or the horrific atrocities that were an integral part of colonizing the Americas. Disliking the video on this basis is such a childish & ignorant, not to mention pathetic, way to respond!
old photos of Pine land show 60 foot high shell mounds that were bulldozed and used as road bed fill in Charlotte and Lee Counties prior to WW2 and possibly after.
Thank you.The Radio station Radio New Zealand had a programm on the Caalosa people this morning.This is the first time I have heard about this resilient and remarkable culture..Their spiritual belief in three spirits interested me and especially like to understand why they resisted European Jesuit missionary efforts.It suggests to me they were strongly grounded in their belief system which made them confident successful people until slavers came in the ?16 th century. Thank you for the documentary and good to see the children learning about discovering this past people. Victoria Haselden Auckland NZ.
I love learning about the peoples of the first nations, the original & native humans in the Americas. But it is very sad, depressing & infuriating to learn or be reminded of just how unfairly & cruelly they were treated over and over and over again often until the ones who managed to survive the barrage of plagues introduced by the colonialists were either completely wiped out, or pushed further and fur5her off their ancestral homelands onto more and more inhospitable wastelands; and their cultures, languages, traditions and histories were nearly completely destroyed and erased as well.
I replicated tge Seated Panther artifact from elk anler and flintknapped a stone blade and inset it in pine pitch glue .Wish I could share photos in comments on youtube
The Cedar Keys were the largest and most populated Native sites on the west Florida coast before European contact , unfortunately nearly everything has been lost to history by development in the last 200 years !
Hontoon Island in Florida is a pretty cool site down the Atlantic coast of Florida south of where I live in Jacksonville Florida but they found the owl totem pole there that was carved wood sunk into the Martian perfectly preserved it's really neat it's big and it's on display at the Fort Caroline replica the national monument thing they have here not the side of the original Fort but really close to what they don't call the original site but what I know to be and those who have explored and discover things with me follow maps and following are rebels and their Carpenter and other survivors accounts and the fort is exactly where it is said to have been it's still visible Eugene Tracy outline of it the most the mounds the additional Spanish workings that were added when the fort was captured San Mateo and you can even see the bastion across the the tidal Creek for the can be replaced to guard against a side attack but actually worked against the Spanish because the French came back three years later and burned the fort and they turned those cannons on that small Tower against the Fortitself and shot it to pieces and burn it down but I know that when I was researching trying to find the original site of Fort Caroline I looked at all the engravings in the library The originals and you have to make a special appointment to go visit them but when I did I seen that the original depictions of the guy who was actually at the fort on the St Johns River the river of may not the altamaha and not the Nassau sound and not any other River it was definitely the Saint John's but I saw that there was a depiction three times it was done and it was always showing to the east side of the for a little small guard Tower and then when the Spanish were in control of it there was a depiction of a second tower across the title Creek to the South and those two things are still visible you can see the remnants of this but going there in person is much better and measuring the ramparts in the depiction of the bride and lemons engravings you see the Earth and mounds and they were said to have been Doug and stacked to a height of 9 ftand even to this day if you measure with Google Earth the approximate height of the mounted area that still visible it is exactly 9 ft and elevation it's obviously weather down but it's still at the 9 FT elevation so it's compensating or overcompensating the regular height of the island and it was always depicted as an island at the end of a tidal Creek not like the altamaha fort that's to the left of 95 when you look at the river and its was the San Mateo for they said but it looks like the shape of the original Fort Caroline by the French but the Spanish just added a section to the South that was a square courtyard in the same walls and Mountain position but it wasn't a perfect triangle it was a triangle with a rectangle attached to it with a little causeway in between and wasn't 1518 ft in length like some of the one fire people website says and I've read the original documents that's not what it was they only had three hundred people there and not thousands of people and they never brought thousands of people even on the boats that never made it!put in the descriptions you see many things that I already saw and actually was curious and confused about before I read all the detailed accounts from the people who actually built the fort and lived there and went through all the events like you know the extra two citadel's or towers that were built I thought what are these things this must be something else but it was in the depictions it was in the engravings and it's in the description you can even see the remote you can see the guard house a little drawbridge thing they had where it would have been the traffic you know people wouldn't in and out of the place over and over again and farm animals during storms as well as a map I got in the estate sale that depicts Florida in the lakes or mid 1600 something like 1690s and it shows the Fort Caroline site and it was already ruined by then but it depicts it at the end of a tidal Creek that is further towards the river mouth or the Ocean than the replica is and of course it's exactly the shape orientation and position that this map shows!and it is one of about 12 other maps that show a general depiction showing the same exact location the same shape and everything so I'm convinced that I have found the original site at Fort Caroline I'm going to make a video and release it fairly soon I just don't want to do it until it's something that's well documented and worth watching and enjoyable! Anyone wants to volunteer to come along help excavator do a little bit of digging not too much cuz it would be illegal to take artifacts away but just to reveal and clear some of the brush away to help see the shape of the island and of the four itself and as well as protect some of the locations treasures which are just pretty much history there isn't too much real treasure so to speak and just to be a part of that if you want to see the fort or just find out you know what I'm talking about then hit me up on the comments or whatever and you can come along and help make a video and to documentary!👍🏽✌🏽✌🏽✌🏽🇺🇸😃❤️ PS- I also plan to go into Georgia and visit the site of the fort ruins on the altamaha river I have found the location of that as well and it just came to be Fort Caroline but it is not it is not San Mateo it is not Fort Caroline although it is a mysterious Force structure that was there and it's approximately the same shape and size as the one on Saint John's but problem is that the pictures they have of Fort Caroline being there show it far back off the shore up into the woods and that would not be accurate because it was on an island and it was surrounded by water and it was right on the water not you know 1,000 yards inland and stuff like that so it's just not not for Caroline but I think it mighthave been a later British for or possibly a Spanish Fort or it could have even been a mysterious and unknown hidden French fork that was either started in abandoned or possibly just unknown and kept secrets because they learned the lessons of Fort Caroline and there was a saying remember Fort Caroline but that was supposedly to help people to remember to build up the estuary up the creek Rivers where the large gal could not see you or reach you and to make the Spanish ships just not a factor in warfare and not lose the advantage of surprise and concealment by hiding your fort much better than they did in Fort Caroline! But I would like to go to that site and show people of the two ruins and show them the aerial photographs and light our data above sites and make a documentary and find out exactly who is there and what it was and what they were doing
Nice documentary. Unfortunate that they all died out, I hate to see the negative effects of colonialism and expansionism. Makes me wonder how they would've prospered without European contact
AROUND THE YEAR 1530 ,300 CONQUISTADORS WERE LEFT ON THE BEACH AND BECAUSE VERY BAD WEATHER THE BOATS HAD TO GO . THEY NEVER REUNITE ,.FOR THE FIRST TIME WHITE PEOPLE EAT CORN .SO THEY WENT BY FOOT AND ONLY 4 SURVIVED FROM FLORIDA TO MEXICO IT TOUKE THEM 8 YEARS . AND THEY FOUND A TRIBU OF ONLY GAY INDIAN.VERY GOOD BOOK
Cabeza de Vaca! Is a really good movie that depicts it made back in the seventies or 60s it's actually free on TH-cam!! (At least your was a few months ago!) I think it's just called cabeza de Vaca... It's pretty cool cuz it was made in the 60s and it's kind of trippy and actually depicts some of the strange aspects of the journey and the supernatural healings and the religious miracles and things that were occurring and how he became almost like a medicine man / healing priest! How the natives begin to almost venerate him bringing them they're sick and dead and dying and he would heal them through prayer and touching them laying hands on them and saying little prayers and doing rituals that he saw other Indians do in South Florida and then he actually raised a Chief's daughter from the dead and apparently she was truly dead is what they said because she was already turning to decay and rewards and she sunk and future fight but she came back to life and the scared the other three men he was with so much that they approach him and told him that he needs to stop doing this and that they were even aware that none of them could talk about what was occurring once they got back to the Spanish civilization if they ever did because they would probably be killed by the Inquisition for participating in these rituals and they would be questioned even though it was a miracle and they did it in the name of God it was scared of the people who were an authority in that time and the prosecuting people back in Europe and in the colonies and so they just didn't mention it until much later!
The Calusa Tribe may have disappeared; but not all of the Calusa culture. Seminoles know that some of the songs and stories told among them are from the Calusa. Rather than becoming "extinct," their survivors assimilated. That, of course, is the story of all human civilization. Try as some might, no one can really wipe out a culture! Question: What, exactly, is the justification for using LeMoyne's illustrations to represent a totally different people.
Out of curiosity, do you know anywhere I could find any of the Seminole songs or stories from the Calusa, either as recordings or transcripts? I am a TA in an American History class and someday would like to include information about the Calusa in a class
I totally agree. Most of the "indians" who were captured during the "secret missionaries" were taken to the carolinas.. ... think about that..? The ones who escaped back further south they were eventually called creek, seminoles(wild men, free-men, runaways).. later in time they were eventually called colored, mullato, negro..could this be how they became "extinct". What were they being taught during the time of the missionary period of being CHILDREN of war? Its also said the indians that didn't go to the carolinas was sent further north, or to Cuba..? Ive been to cuba and if you know the history on cuba..just gon to the old churchesthey have pictureof the dark ones coming on boats and not from africa. When you know you know..
@@brianthomassr9451 Dark skinned, perhaps. They spent all of their time lightly clothed outdoors in Florida. Of course, unlike you I wasn't there to see them. [--If by any chance you happen to mean Negro, I'd be very interested to see your evidence that they arrived from Africa some 1,000 years earlier than the first black slaves on this continent. How did they cross the Atlantic to get here?]
The Calusa had a fascinating civilization that rarely ever gets the attention it deserves. They built artificial islands, large temple mounds and complex fisheries. I once read that they’re the only “advanced” or “complex” society in known human history to ever be established entirely around Aquaculture and without ever developing Agriculture.
THE. CALUSA. WERE. VERY. VERY. WISE,. ESPECIALLY. BY. REFUSING. " CHRISTIANITY" !!!!!!! THE. MIGHTY. CALUSA. HAD. IT. GOING. ON. 🌿😍🌿🥰🌿😔🌿🌿🌿
Very interesting
The ancient marina at mound key was impressive. The scale was huge: many trade canoes could be handled at once, with no waiting time to load/offload.
Very smart ~
Good video. Can't understand why someone would give it a thumbs down, but heck. These days nothing surprises me.
I would thumbs down it because of colonization
@@youknowwhyimhere756 what does that mean
@@youknowwhyimhere756 I was just about say that the only reason i could think of for disliking the presentation would be because of a dislike for and a disapproval of the truth & reality of the information presented.
And that is exactly what your response confirms!
This logic and reasoning is deeply flawed & contradictory, and utterly foolish! This is certainly obvious to most...
Such behavior is a great example of "shooting/killing the messenger" (who bears bad news)...
Neither this video nor its producers are in ANY way responsible for colonialism or the horrific atrocities that were an integral part of colonizing the Americas. Disliking the video on this basis is such a childish & ignorant, not to mention pathetic, way to respond!
This sounds like it's narrated by Peter Thomas. Best voice ever!
I immediately noticed him from forensic files. Was an Amazing narrator.
old photos of Pine land show 60 foot high shell mounds that were bulldozed and used as road bed fill in Charlotte and Lee Counties prior to WW2 and possibly after.
Sad and stupid
This was a really good documentary! Wish I had seen it sooner.
Thank you.The Radio station Radio New Zealand had a programm on the Caalosa people this morning.This is the first time I have heard about this resilient and remarkable culture..Their spiritual belief in three spirits interested me and especially like to understand why they resisted European Jesuit missionary efforts.It suggests to me they were strongly grounded in their belief system which made them confident successful people until slavers came in the ?16 th century. Thank you for the documentary and good to see the children learning about discovering this past people.
Victoria Haselden Auckland NZ.
this forgot that the last 400 families where given asylum to Cuba!
And that Chekika himself was descended of Calusa, their genetics still exist!
And that Chekika himself was descended of Calusa, their genetics still exist!
@@goatman3057 Black Aboriginal
As a Cuban I have to say, your wrong the Calusa dying out, they became Cubans, my Tio Jesus was descended of them, he was 6'5" and a brilliant man
I'm only 45 years old and for 45 years. I witnessed so much destruction of florida it is so sad to watch
Fascinating, thank you❤
I want to know how did they survive prehistoric hurricanes especially in Florida..
They would tie themselves to trees
Florida was wider
The narrator's voice is the same as Paul Hardcastle's 19 .... In Vietnam he was 19 ...19.
I love learning about the peoples of the first nations, the original & native humans in the Americas.
But it is very sad, depressing & infuriating to learn or be reminded of just how unfairly & cruelly they were treated over and over and over again often until the ones who managed to survive the barrage of plagues introduced by the colonialists were either completely wiped out, or pushed further and fur5her off their ancestral homelands onto more and more inhospitable wastelands; and their cultures, languages, traditions and histories were nearly completely destroyed and erased as well.
the caloosa hatchee is in fort myers florida where I'm from... Anu era emcee...
A dig in the Orange Grove hill beside the boat ramp on Lake Apopka. In Mount Verde. That's where points are gathered from.
pine island is also in lee county, there's even a road called pine island. also a road called el dorado, andalusia...
Great story..i love in punta Gorda Florida..where these tribes supposed to have live.. GLORY TO GOD
They shouldn’t have opened things up to the public, for them to take and taint the ancient past.
Deep voice in monthly month of. May.
I replicated tge Seated Panther artifact from elk anler and flintknapped a stone blade and inset it in pine pitch glue .Wish I could share photos in comments on youtube
-plays video- :: frantically tried to turn down the volume on my phone ::
The Cedar Keys were the largest and most populated Native sites on the west Florida coast before European contact , unfortunately nearly everything has been lost to history by development in the last 200 years !
Is this the same guy reading this outloud as the Ken Burns docs?
Narrator
Narrator
Forensic Files .....CNN HLN on weekends on SiriusXM. Lol
NOT EXTINCT.
Hontoon Island in Florida is a pretty cool site down the Atlantic coast of Florida south of where I live in Jacksonville Florida but they found the owl totem pole there that was carved wood sunk into the Martian perfectly preserved it's really neat it's big and it's on display at the Fort Caroline replica the national monument thing they have here not the side of the original Fort but really close to what they don't call the original site but what I know to be and those who have explored and discover things with me follow maps and following are rebels and their Carpenter and other survivors accounts and the fort is exactly where it is said to have been it's still visible Eugene Tracy outline of it the most the mounds the additional Spanish workings that were added when the fort was captured San Mateo and you can even see the bastion across the the tidal Creek for the can be replaced to guard against a side attack but actually worked against the Spanish because the French came back three years later and burned the fort and they turned those cannons on that small Tower against the Fortitself and shot it to pieces and burn it down but I know that when I was researching trying to find the original site of Fort Caroline I looked at all the engravings in the library The originals and you have to make a special appointment to go visit them but when I did I seen that the original depictions of the guy who was actually at the fort on the St Johns River the river of may not the altamaha and not the Nassau sound and not any other River it was definitely the Saint John's but I saw that there was a depiction three times it was done and it was always showing to the east side of the for a little small guard Tower and then when the Spanish were in control of it there was a depiction of a second tower across the title Creek to the South and those two things are still visible you can see the remnants of this but going there in person is much better and measuring the ramparts in the depiction of the bride and lemons engravings you see the Earth and mounds and they were said to have been Doug and stacked to a height of 9 ftand even to this day if you measure with Google Earth the approximate height of the mounted area that still visible it is exactly 9 ft and elevation it's obviously weather down but it's still at the 9 FT elevation so it's compensating or overcompensating the regular height of the island and it was always depicted as an island at the end of a tidal Creek not like the altamaha fort that's to the left of 95 when you look at the river and its was the San Mateo for they said but it looks like the shape of the original Fort Caroline by the French but the Spanish just added a section to the South that was a square courtyard in the same walls and Mountain position but it wasn't a perfect triangle it was a triangle with a rectangle attached to it with a little causeway in between and wasn't 1518 ft in length like some of the one fire people website says and I've read the original documents that's not what it was they only had three hundred people there and not thousands of people and they never brought thousands of people even on the boats that never made it!put in the descriptions you see many things that I already saw and actually was curious and confused about before I read all the detailed accounts from the people who actually built the fort and lived there and went through all the events like you know the extra two citadel's or towers that were built I thought what are these things this must be something else but it was in the depictions it was in the engravings and it's in the description you can even see the remote you can see the guard house a little drawbridge thing they had where it would have been the traffic you know people wouldn't in and out of the place over and over again and farm animals during storms as well as a map I got in the estate sale that depicts Florida in the lakes or mid 1600 something like 1690s and it shows the Fort Caroline site and it was already ruined by then but it depicts it at the end of a tidal Creek that is further towards the river mouth or the Ocean than the replica is and of course it's exactly the shape orientation and position that this map shows!and it is one of about 12 other maps that show a general depiction showing the same exact location the same shape and everything so I'm convinced that I have found the original site at Fort Caroline I'm going to make a video and release it fairly soon I just don't want to do it until it's something that's well documented and worth watching and enjoyable! Anyone wants to volunteer to come along help excavator do a little bit of digging not too much cuz it would be illegal to take artifacts away but just to reveal and clear some of the brush away to help see the shape of the island and of the four itself and as well as protect some of the locations treasures which are just pretty much history there isn't too much real treasure so to speak and just to be a part of that if you want to see the fort or just find out you know what I'm talking about then hit me up on the comments or whatever and you can come along and help make a video and to documentary!👍🏽✌🏽✌🏽✌🏽🇺🇸😃❤️
PS- I also plan to go into Georgia and visit the site of the fort ruins on the altamaha river I have found the location of that as well and it just came to be Fort Caroline but it is not it is not San Mateo it is not Fort Caroline although it is a mysterious Force structure that was there and it's approximately the same shape and size as the one on Saint John's but problem is that the pictures they have of Fort Caroline being there show it far back off the shore up into the woods and that would not be accurate because it was on an island and it was surrounded by water and it was right on the water not you know 1,000 yards inland and stuff like that so it's just not not for Caroline but I think it mighthave been a later British for or possibly a Spanish Fort or it could have even been a mysterious and unknown hidden French fork that was either started in abandoned or possibly just unknown and kept secrets because they learned the lessons of Fort Caroline and there was a saying remember Fort Caroline but that was supposedly to help people to remember to build up the estuary up the creek Rivers where the large gal could not see you or reach you and to make the Spanish ships just not a factor in warfare and not lose the advantage of surprise and concealment by hiding your fort much better than they did in Fort Caroline! But I would like to go to that site and show people of the two ruins and show them the aerial photographs and light our data above sites and make a documentary and find out exactly who is there and what it was and what they were doing
Nice documentary. Unfortunate that they all died out, I hate to see the negative effects of colonialism and expansionism. Makes me wonder how they would've prospered without European contact
They lived here for thousands and thousands of years without European contact, we saw exactly how they lived
@@99fxgtjc I know, i meant if the europeans left them alone after contact
@@SituationNormalAint it would’ve been exactly the same thing
AROUND THE YEAR 1530 ,300 CONQUISTADORS WERE LEFT ON THE BEACH AND BECAUSE VERY BAD WEATHER THE BOATS HAD TO GO . THEY NEVER REUNITE ,.FOR THE FIRST TIME WHITE PEOPLE EAT CORN .SO THEY WENT BY FOOT AND ONLY 4 SURVIVED FROM FLORIDA TO MEXICO IT TOUKE THEM 8 YEARS . AND THEY FOUND A TRIBU OF ONLY GAY INDIAN.VERY GOOD BOOK
Cabeza de Vaca! Is a really good movie that depicts it made back in the seventies or 60s it's actually free on TH-cam!!
(At least your was a few months ago!)
I think it's just called cabeza de Vaca... It's pretty cool cuz it was made in the 60s and it's kind of trippy and actually depicts some of the strange aspects of the journey and the supernatural healings and the religious miracles and things that were occurring and how he became almost like a medicine man / healing priest! How the natives begin to almost venerate him bringing them they're sick and dead and dying and he would heal them through prayer and touching them laying hands on them and saying little prayers and doing rituals that he saw other Indians do in South Florida and then he actually raised a Chief's daughter from the dead and apparently she was truly dead is what they said because she was already turning to decay and rewards and she sunk and future fight but she came back to life and the scared the other three men he was with so much that they approach him and told him that he needs to stop doing this and that they were even aware that none of them could talk about what was occurring once they got back to the Spanish civilization if they ever did because they would probably be killed by the Inquisition for participating in these rituals and they would be questioned even though it was a miracle and they did it in the name of God it was scared of the people who were an authority in that time and the prosecuting people back in Europe and in the colonies and so they just didn't mention it until much later!
Could these people be related to the lucayo people ? They sound dead on similar
So many errors in the first 5 minutes I had to turn it off. I would have expected better from the so called Florida Museum.
Calusa is one of the four official languages of the Seminole Nations. They are not extinct.
The producers of this documentary think that an incestuous relationship is a valid lifestyle.
The way they sit in my face smh
Some of the figurines and drawings look Egyptian and Oriental
This documentary is being told by the oppressors
That’s bullshit
Unfortunately that’s all that’s usually available
Well, who else is going to tell it? Karawkwa Indians ?
The Calusa Tribe may have disappeared; but not all of the Calusa culture. Seminoles know that some of the songs and stories told among them are from the Calusa. Rather than becoming "extinct," their survivors assimilated. That, of course, is the story of all human civilization. Try as some might, no one can really wipe out a culture!
Question: What, exactly, is the justification for using LeMoyne's illustrations to represent a totally different people.
Out of curiosity, do you know anywhere I could find any of the Seminole songs or stories from the Calusa, either as recordings or transcripts? I am a TA in an American History class and someday would like to include information about the Calusa in a class
I totally agree. Most of the "indians" who were captured during the "secret missionaries" were taken to the carolinas.. ... think about that..? The ones who escaped back further south they were eventually called creek, seminoles(wild men, free-men, runaways).. later in time they were eventually called colored, mullato, negro..could this be how they became "extinct". What were they being taught during the time of the missionary period of being CHILDREN of war? Its also said the indians that didn't go to the carolinas was sent further north, or to Cuba..? Ive been to cuba and if you know the history on cuba..just gon to the old churchesthey have pictureof the dark ones coming on boats and not from africa. When you know you know..
They were Black
@@timothyjvilgiate8330 well you should teach that they were Dark skin Aboriginal tribe
@@brianthomassr9451 Dark skinned, perhaps. They spent all of their time lightly clothed outdoors in Florida. Of course, unlike you I wasn't there to see them. [--If by any chance you happen to mean Negro, I'd be very interested to see your evidence that they arrived from Africa some 1,000 years earlier than the first black slaves on this continent. How did they cross the Atlantic to get here?]
420th like lol
They should leave our decendants @ rest;
troll
Black Aboriginal Tribe they are
we all should know thier history ! They will live forever that way