I've learned that the hard way several times. I invited a boy to join our lunch table cuz he was eating g alone. He then started hitting on me and my other friend in front of our boyfriends, invited my boyfriend over to his house to play hide and seek tag with knives, and showed up to my sweet 16 dressed like a cowboy and gave me a bear bracelet. He then asked me why I wasn't wearing the bracelet every single day for the rest of the year. We called him creepy Austin, and he was probs the most non-threatening weirdo I've associated with, but dang, should have left him alone at that lunch table.
@@kassassin_brahgawk that is really creepy. Though as a bloke, I must admit have dated a bunny boiler in the past... I imagine she could have killed me if she chose.
Movies are starting to pick up on this too. I once watched a Nerd explains video on a horror movie about a group of outcast banding together to get revenge on their bullies. Needless to say, they were outcasts for a reason.
she was probably the first woman to ever show him genuine respect and kindness, and THAT is what he did to her. instead of giving that respect back, he decided that she was an object he was allowed to claim, and that he wasnt willing to share. thats what he saw her as. a toy. dont ever forget that. if he truly cared abt her, admired her, and wanted to be in a relationship with her and love her, he never wouldve done what he did.
i’m sure that he called himself a nice guy and didn’t know why only douchebags get girls :( well guess what you’re not a nice guy you’re a freaking incel
As a woman it's hard sometimes to trust your instincts when you want to be a kind person. People weren't just being cruel to him. He really was dangerous and they were picking up on that. I always remind my daughters to trust their instincts. They are there for a reason. Don't override them.
one of the creepiest parts of this for me is how he keeps saying “we” in the news interview, as if he was part of her family and friends, groups of people that loved and cared for her. so gross
To him he was to her he was the weird neighbor she was nice to only one who really seemed to be kidn to him showing him respect and love form her heart sadly how amazing she was to show him kindness and respect he did that to her fact went had someone talking to him smile see how he was and ignored people saying oh dont talk to him he's a creep dangerous a weirdo she didn't care and thought everyone deserves to feel seen and heard awful just awful
I love how this dude was studying to be a criminal attorney and yet he doesn't ask for a lawyer the minute the detective starts talking to him. I also have no idea how the detective kept from rolling his eyes at this performance.
What makes you think he wasn’t rolling his eyes the whole time? Certainly not his words, because that was the biggest indicator that he was. Was it the close up image of his face & eyes? Lol
He didn't ask because he already stated he was attempting to act crazy and like he was unaware of what was going on. So I think that's why he didn't ask for a lawyer
I went to this law school. She and the tragedy are NEVER mentioned. There is no in memorium there is no day of remembrance and to my knowledge there isn’t even a plaque. I never even heard her name. The law school keeps this very hush hush. The only people who talk about it are the city folk who said “yeah that poor girl from the law school was killed and her body parts were put all around town”. It infuriates me how she is erased from history in the college and almost from the town itself.
Her colleagues and/or anyone that cares about Lauren should set a scholarship program in her name to commemorate her. If many people chip's in I would imagine it doesn't cost too much for everyone. Just a suggestion...
I wish someone had suggested a "nanny cam" to put her mind at ease and then discovering, with the proof, what was happening. Lauren would be alive & he would have been charged.
I bought a camera for $30 on sale, it's 4K 60fps, has built in wireless and it saves to an SD card - it does require a small amount of technical knowledge to get motion detection and notification e-mails working but for $30 with no monthly fees they should start to become way more common
@@Pandidolod She would have had proof someone was coming into her apartment for starters so she would have moved out whether or not the cops charged him and yes she'd still be alive. I really don't know how you're not getting that 🤷
the pictures of lauren were wonderful. it’s essential to remind viewers that victims were real people with full inner lives - so many of us can be desensitized. we forget how truly tragic it is when a human being, with dreams and desires, has their life violently stolen. she seemed like a lovely, vibrant young woman, with the whole world ahead of her. may she rest in peace.
Without fail, when someone is killed, they happen to be this 1 in a million angel. This time it really does appear to be the case. She would have been an amazing public defender in a state where someone like her is desperately needed. We'll never know the impact this jackass had on the world.
@@beautifulsurprise9424 this reporter was a small town first assignment type. You could tell by the way they were asking questions. You're mistaking lifeless, obtuse questions for intuitive police interrogation.
I'm kind of a loner too. And I've known people like Lauren, who always seem to go out of their way to talk to me. I love people like that. I don't need them to acknowledge me, but the fact that they make an effort to include me and get to know me is touching and always appreciated. stephen is a simp freak and I hope he's still lonely.
@@Leslie_Knopeewus actual videos are great but the titles and thumbnails are in bad taste, it’s a far cry from the kind of respect dreading and Dave’s lemonade give these crimes
You could tell that detective did not like this ratfaced kid, and not just because he’s a cold blooded murderer, but because he’s a pathetic little weasel and a terrible actor.
For someone who was about to become a lawyer he sure is stupid. All that stalking and planning and he was still the sloppiest killer ever. His acting is ridiculous. And that reporter was SO SMART to keep him talking. She Damn well knew people suspected him. Good on her.
The reality is there is no surefireway to get away with murder and you're gonna look like an idiot trying especially if it's sexually motivated. The cases people have gotten away with it either had no sexual component or had mountains upon mountains of luck and usually both.
Yea leaving the hacksaw in public was dumb- be was close with disposing of the body tho. Still, they'd probably have enough without one but man that's a risk
In fairness and out of context, his reaction to the fact that a body was found could be one of fear or shock in losing a friend. Knowing the back story makes it obvious that this is not the case .
His reaction to being told that a body was found in the trash was absolutely a genuine reaction. Like you said at the time one could have thought he was upset for a completely different reason that what it actually was. Now, looking back on it we can now put the proper context to the reaction. It was a genuine reaction of “oh sh*t, I am f*cked”.
People in shock or fear won't continue the interview, won't just accept that the body found was hers, he would run trying to find more, maybe doubt the remains are human remains...etc, he is very very suspicious from that moment up, specially the way his demeanor changed, talking more, spilling new details he was obviously holding back before the fact of knowing...etc Dangerous boy
You know, for someone claiming they didn't see her a lot, he rambles on a lot about what she does. It's this weird dance between "I couldn't have done it, I barely knew her" and "I care about her so much it couldn't have been me"
Also, saying they were friends and he appreciated how nice she was would have helped explain his reaction when the reporter said they found her body. "I barely knew her- I act like this whenever I hear someone died..." is less convincing
Hahahaha exactly right! Like in Australia we have a TV show called “A Current Affair” and you get a lot of dodgy people on there. Some woman tried to set her son house alight and was confronted if it was her on the video. She says: “It looks like me, it could be me, it might be me, but it’s not me” 🤦🏽♀️
I went down a rabbit hole on this case several years back and found all of Stephen's posts on different forums where he discusses faking insanity and also specifically references wanting to rape and kill Lauren. (He doesn't use her name, but he describes her.) I was never able to remember where I found the posts, though, so nobody ever believed me when I mentioned them. I'm happy to see that you also found some of them and included them in this video for reference.
I would have liked seeing those..but I.m not computer smart..a lot of us old dogs aren't..I crawled into the Jodi arias rat hole..but the info was all over the place..😝
Yes that's a true statement. He had a notebook or diary saying if he gets caught he'll pretend he doesn't remember n play insane. He did a bad acting job.
This premeditated borderline catatonic state could only have (possibly) worked if he got caught by police immediately after committing the crime. You can’t just hop into that state after you JUST chatted it up in a TV interview. Wonderful presentation as usual guys!
Just glad I got truth out about JOHN LENNONS assassination. A professional hit...2 gunmen. Shot in the front. Book - Mind games, due out soon about the truth.
Except it did work. His terrible job of destroying evidence got him caught. You realize they had to release him after the interrogation right? The hack saw and his zip drive is what they needed. He owned the police during the interrogation
"Chatted it up" is most apt 👌🏿 I'm convinced that the newswomen suspected him as well because he knew so much about her. They just kept the questions rolling 😂 they didn't care about his tears lmao
His reaction to them finding her remains will never cease to shock me. "They found the body? How? I moved it a whole 10 feet away on the same property where the crime was committed" . . .
@@Gonken88 yes and didn’t the dump truck get off schedule? Like it was supposed to be picked up that morning but got delayed? If I remember correctly, it was lucky they found her
I'm a retired CFI, and have watched this interview multiple times. When I've trained investigators on proper interrogation technique, I refer to this one as an example of a sloppy, ineffective, and ill-prepared one.
for real, the cookie jar analogy and begging/crying "Why?!?!" and acting like an Angry Dad and insulting his sexuality/manhood, really he was throwing every weak persuasion technique at the wall. Zero rapport building
That's actually an interesting angle. I think this is the one interrogation I've seen where the perp comes out "winning" and that's probably the reason, homeboy walked in way too confident
Growing up as a weirdo and being picked on and bullied, I never wanted to make someone else feel ostracized like I was. But as a woman, and as i grew up and had a "glow up" i realized some men will take my kindness as an opening to pursue some sexual engagement. My inner child cant sit back and watch as someone is treated as an outsider, i feel compelled to step in and be a person i wish I had in my life. But as a woman it is also dangerous; 99 weird dudes could be just that, weird, but there is always that 1 guy that acts like because you smiled at them or engaged in a pleasant way that they can push your boundaries. And when you pull back and tell them your not interested like that, they lose their shit.
Yeah. They call women like that a “tease” or that we “led them on”, when all we did was smile and say hi. Men have smiled and said hi to me and I never thought oh that guy wants me. Yeah he wants to be my bf or marry me. Never. I don’t understand that mindset 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly. It's why lots of us rather hang out with gay dudes. Only a few dudes seem to believe and empathize with us on the issue. Most try to gaslight us "He was just saying hello!" I guess it's bc they empathize with the guy.
I appreciate the heart you have, even after being picked on. My older brother was picked on- MERCILESSLY. I will never forget him sobbing in my mom’s arms because he didn’t want to go back to school as summer ended. That was grade school! Because of that, I can’t stay quiet when someone is being singled out either. But in hindsight, my sympathy and being ‘nice’ has put me in more dangerous positions than anything else. Unfortunately, that’s what most predators count on.
@@basbleupeaunoire you guys are braindead lol nobody cares you said hi to them and in this case she kept hanging out with the weirdo even when people said stop that's very different...
It's very telling that Lauren's friends got 'danger vibes' from him. She was genuinely kind and gave him the benefit of the doubt when he didn't deserve it. He was so selfish he couldn't even appreciate how wonderful she really was.
@@Man_Emperor_of_Mankindwhen I was 17 I met a friend of a friend and she mad me feel so unnerved. I always bailed whenever she was invited anywhere. Fast forward a year or so, she was arrested for having her Mother murdered. Jennifer Pan is her name. She's currently serving 25 years to life. I will always trust my instincts right or wrong.
The background provided on both the victim and perpetrator was something I'd not yet seen. You gave invaluable insight to this case. Subscribed and eager to see your next analysis.
@@NORMLfan13 actually the narrator did mention that when the group of concerned friends went to her apt to look for her, he joined the group n hung around until aone of the group found a key hidden outside. On another channel, they reported that the friend found the key after a relative( parent/sibling) had told them where she kept it while on the phone.
Agreed. Very impressed; not only by the extra news footage of him going on and on, no one else has shown this. No one else had delved into Lauren's character. A real treasure these days that a beautiful woman, that is smart and busy....open her life up to try to give someone else the confidence they need in life; and that she tried to include him. Her true feelings that someone was in her home. I do the things that she would do; but it always comes to bite me in the ass. I know that one day someone is just going to haul off and murder me. Not only has it already been attempted....and just because I don't want to see people left out. Its dangerous and NOT a random strangers responsibility. I also didn't see all the extra interrogation.....this case is like an onion. The layers just peel back...over and over. This case, I have watched over and over and will continue to. Apparently there were parts to this people wanted to wrap up. I see no reason to get to the bottom of it. I mean just because Lauren wasn't married with children and a big house, and a husband having an extra marital affair ~ JUST BECAUSE that wasn't the case, I feel that things were just wrapped up and closed down. The media didn't find it enough to continue pounding it into the ground , like the Watts Case. I think its just as much important. The poor woman wouldn't have even done anything but move away.
Yes, I agree that this video was well researched and it presented information that wasn’t included in other videos. I have seen maybe 4 or 5 other true crime channels cover this, they all did a fine job, but just didn’t delve into the personality and backstory of the victim and the perp. Well done! The video of him being interviewed by the news was disturbing to say the least, it was even creepier when I saw the long version included in this video. This guy is a really weird dude. It’s not clear what can really be learned, except maybe that it’s not safe to befriend everyone. If everyone in your life is telling you that you need to be careful about a weirdo neighbor, it’s maybe good to listen to them. But, I mean, this guy had stolen a key, was regularly stalking and peeping, and developed an obsession, it’s not clear that there was anything she really could have done to prevent this. Very sad indeed.
“What’s with the pair of underwear that was in your apartment? It was cut out like a mask. Do you cut underwear up to look like a mask?”😂 Detective Patterson is my favorite!
Especially with all the stuff leading up to it. I was a single mom with 2 daughters and a maintenance guy was coming in my apartment. It is the most nerve wracking situation. I could literally smell when he had been there. My instincts became so heightened when my daughter got out of bed in the middle of the night, the sound of her feet touching the floor would wake me up. I ended bringing both my daughters to sleep with me at night and I put a hook n eye on the bedroom door, knowing the sound would wake me up and with my kids already there I was shooting through the door. I kept the hallway light on so I could see under the door the dark spot if there was anyone there. I had my concealed carry permit because I worked for a controversial politician. I started carrying a gun everywhere just for my return home. I would have one of the girls unlock the door and go in first secretly holding a gun in both hands behind them, blocking the basement door with my foot covering the steps and the front door. Something was about to happen, I could feel it. I'm so glad we got out in time. If I didn't have kids I'm sure I would have handled it alot like Lauern Giddings.
“I didn’t know her at all we never talked. She was so nice and such a great person” pants heavily and seams to know her quite well and feels this much remorse for someone he didn’t know.
The news broadcaster must have picked up his body language and that’s why she kept asking him questions and he was not expecting that. Who ever she is she did a superb job on highlighting how strange he was acting. He literally saw his whole life flash by and had an existential crisis on air for the world to see.
The lady asked and answered her own questions before he could even get a syllable out the guestion was answered and 3 more were asked and answered by her
@@anpp99 yeah I don't see how it has anything to do with being a lawyer was he going to kill his clients? What was he going to do as a lawyer that is so scary. Just because if he would have become a lawyer it's highly unlikely that any law firm would ever hire him.
working at a thrift store as a teenager i had some insane experiences with creepy men. very quickly you learn that you CAN'T be nice or they come back.
I was nice to everybody in my customer service roles. Some men take it the wrong way. Like the trucker who wanted me to ride along with him to “keep him company”. Yikes!
I love how Stephen thinks by making eye contact and not asking for a lawyer it will make them think he’s telling the truth. Man he is so bad at being a criminal.
Stephen deploys the famous "be a weird freak during the interrogation so I can plead insanity until the notebook where I wrote down my plans to murder Lauren and feign mental illness is discovered but the jury is so utterly skeeved out by the interview footage they vote not guilty by reason of insanity anyway" plan. 0% of the time, it works every time.
It is so terrifying and disgusting that something as simple as being kind towards the wrong person can result in them becoming obsessed with you, create an idealised version of you in their head that doesn't exist and feeling so entitled to you that they brutally murder you...so you can't ever shatter their fantasies by living your own life that doesn't revolve around them.
Yeah, theyre not shy akward and lonely, needing for help and friendship. Theyre sociopaths putting a honey trap. Its good to help a weirdo with kindness but you have to trust your gut when you sense somethings off with the quiet ones. But how do you avoid someone Who lives right next door. Anything you do can either provoke some weird lust or anger. Like do you greet them or not to keep the peace. When their gaze meets you do you nod and smile or use a resting bitch face. Their is no winning with these creeps. I do have to say since ive stopped being kind to strangers and stopped trusting men as friends ive no longer been graped, attacked, stalked or anything else. So ive learned my lesson about being kind. And i was hard to learn. I kept trying and saying theyre not all the same. But as soon as you give them a finger theyll even fake an entire friendship Just to get in your pants. So now i prob miss out on some great guys. But i kinda prefer not being prayed upon or being used. So im good being all allone myself now moving forward.
I've known at least a half dozen grown men that believed clerks, waitresses, bartenders, any woman in a service position that was being cheerful and friendly to them, mostly for tips I'm sure, well these dweebs would then think these women wanted them, it was a sign etc etc...desperate can convince one of most anything....everyone of these guys are still single, sad
I used to be kind to a guy who worked in the same shopping centre as me and got my bus and would talk to me all the time. He was very awkward and seemed a bit slow. I made it very clear I lived with my partner. After a few weeks he asked me on a date so I reminded him I had a boyfriend and apologised. The next day and every day after for a week he got off the bus at my stop and followed me toward home. I had to just keep walking so he wouldn't know where I lived until I could get someone to pick me up or I'd keep looping the same street so he'd give up. I didn't know what to do because I was scared if I antagonised him he might do something. I ended up stopping at the doors of the bus and said out loud If you get off and follow me again I'm calling the police and pressing charges. He didn't get off. Needless to say I changed buses. I still have to occasionally see him in the centre but I was lucky and confronting him was enough. I don't talk to strangers any more!
There's no harm in being nice, well... not nice, agreeable. BUT I always say to trust your instincts. You know yourself, you know if something is just your mind doing what your mind does or if it's something different. For Lauren that something was unusual, and she did the right thing, she acted upon it by installing that door jammer thing. And it wasn't enough. What would YOU have done? You would think that if you secure your place, the place is secure, wouldn't you? It's a tragedy. I would have felt I did enough to be safe. I would have thought that the only thing that can happen is the house sinking into a hole, the roof collapsing or being bombed or hit by a meteor or idk. What the hell can happen? I can get shot through a window I guess. Someone has put a hitman on my 4SS.... but that's thinking on a bit of a crazy side. It could happen but then anything can happen. And... it did. Wtf. There is always hindsight with these heartbreaking cases but being 100% reasonable when it would have saved a life was exactly what took place. Not everyone has two apartments they can run between. And who knows whether doing that would have done anything because there was the stalking. Does anyone know of more reasonable precautions that should have been put in place that would have saved Lauren? Honestly.
I think he's more smug than that. He thinks they can't prove anything even with the torso, and he likes what he thinks is a cat and mouse game. He reminds me of Munchhausen Syndrome, but it's the cops and the press is the target instead of doctors. He doesn't know that they will find the internet post about his playing crazy plan.
@@pinkpugginz I personally don't believe it..especially with him saying/writing earlier that this is what he would do if ever caught for anything heinous and try to play the crazy card.... I could be wrong of course.
@@AVSgirl1985 yea thats true I wrote that comment before finishing this video. I had no idea about him writing that bs its never been reported anywhere else. the cops seemed like they knew it was fake
That interrogation was one of the most infuriating I've ever watched. The interrogators' persistence and southern drawals were the only thing keeping me from clicking off in rage lmao. His "emotionless" yes/no/idk responses were completely on purpose, thinking he could outsmart law enforcement that way. What a piece of trash. RIP Lauren. The price you paid for simply being a kind soul is so sad.
The "best part" of the whole thing was how Steven would actually answer all the questions that were given to him even if he kept that fake as fuck "1000 yard stare" and that even faker "disassociate" way of speaking. As soon as Lauren was brought up in any way, that's when we got the steven-ism's of "duh I dun kno...", and my favorite "Ah didn't doo ett..." Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he did have an actual disassociative psychotic break down, he would either answer none of the questions, or all of them would be given simmilar one word answers. For Steven, as soon as the questions move away from the subject of what he did to Lauren, he's able to speak full sentences again. What a fucking miracle.
@@dn22pkkdd476 He handed circumstantial evidence of his falsified dissociation in a journal entry. Search warrant was all it took before he was toast. A true monster, devouring innocence with murder and child porn.
Peeping toms are very dangerous. I had one in college. He broke in and took personal items. I immediately borrowed one of my friend's big dogs to stay with me until I moved to another apartment within a few days. If you have a peeping tom, take action immediately.
@@theawkweirdchild4675 A lot of serial killers are peeping toms before they start killing people. PS if you can't borrow a big dog, get a huge water dish and a jumbo sized chewie and extra large men's shoes and put them on the porch.
Get a firearm. I advocate for all women, and all men for that matter, to be armed and know how to use it. There are too many fucking low lives, crazy people, psychos, etc out there that will try to harm innocent people. A firearm gives a 110 lb single women a chance against a 245lb attacker.
@@Mark-uh4zd Although I am comfortable using a firearm and know how to use one, many people (especially women) are not. Bear spray and a baseball bat will work. A big dog is your best defense and a big deterrant. Nobody is getting past a guard dog inside your home, not without giving you time to reach for that bear spray, gun, or baseball bat.
The fact she did everything that is commonly advised of women to protect themselves and yet this still happened is chilling to say the least. I know of this case but really do adore the content this channel puts out so I will watch it again. Hope you get 100k soon!
you can look both ways before you cross the street and still get run over .... life is cruel, short, and unfair .... just count your lucky stars no one has hated you so much to put a bullet in your head
Some ladies learn the ultra hard way with the incel/nice guy breed. It's how they're wired. It goes far beyond "not being able to get chicks", it's a motherboard-installed personality trait, and there's no fixing them. Always be skeptical, always have a back up plan, always record if you feel uncomfortable and spidy senses are tingling, be aware of your surroundings, invest in cameras if you feel in your bones that someone is entering your space. Do a 6-month to year de-bugging of home if you feel one of the vermin planted a hidden camera. Set traps, and stay strapped. You just never know. Sure, some may see it as paranoid, but guess what? Your chances of staying alive increase. People of the general masses are just too messy, gross, feral, disorderly, needy, clingy, effed up, and have their own baggage that makes engaging with lots of them not worth it. You just never know.
I am honestly completely baffled. If I had seen the TV interview he did after her murder, without knowing anything, I would 1000% have thought him to be a sweet, concerned neighbor and friend, who was heartbroken over her death. I can't believe he did and said all that while knowing he had murdered her mere hours before. That gives me goosebumps. It's like : *trust NO ONE*
As soon as he knew that body parts had been found and then went quiet, he walked away , then sat down , that’s because Adrenalin rushed into his system , mind went blank and his legs would go weak and feel like jelly , so he had to sit down before he collapsed ..
It was unprofessional for her to reveal evidence from an ongoing investigation to a person who, for all she knew, was a concerned loved one. Then to stick the camera in his face and keep asking questions with absolutely no regard for his mental state? Disgusting. It just so happened he was the murderer, but it could just as easily been her friend, brother, or cousin. I had a murdered loved one have personal details of her final moments plastered onto a news article, details I didn’t know and was traumatized reading. The average reader was not bettered for knowing that information, either.
@@soclose2her That’s also what I was wondering. The way one of the detectives mentioned a few times that the killer was “running [his] mouth on the news” indicated to me that he shouldn’t have said anything because they didn’t want this info leaked
This case is so tragic. I think we women all know the feeling of not being safe, something being wrong, a gut feeling. She did what she thought was right by staying somewhere else, locking her doors, telling trusted people when she was at that time. Her last moments must have been terrifying. All because some creep thought she owed him something, just because she was kind to him. I cant believe the gall of this horrible waste of breath. How dare he hurt her like he did. Coward.
He doesnt know anything or anyone. But he knows last names and street names. So sketchy. "She ran all the time. But the last time I saw her was a couple weeks ago" "I never saw her. I just saw her coming back from the main campus" "I hardly knew her. She's from Maryland and has lots of friends with keys to her apartment" Dudes story has so many discrepancies.
That's why I feel I can't ever blame an attractive woman for being stand-off-ish or seemingly "rude" because there are many genuine creeps out there who will interpret any positive attention as an invitation to something more. Guys should also realize how, even if they have completely innocent intentions, they shouldn't take it personally when someone "unfairly" assumes they might be a creep because others need to prioritize their own safety. That needs to be respected.
Attractive is opinion in mind of a person to me she is beautiful because of her personality and kindness to me people call me ugly because I'm 200 pounds not hour glass shape or a skinny blonde but I think I'm sexy af which matters
That detective was sick of him! “ you don’t have a girlfriend, you’re never going to get a girlfriend” 😂😂 but I really want to know what was going through his head the whole time. To sit there and act like a robot for hours without breaking character is insane!!
“You mean you go a whole week without cleaning?” “Yes” “Why, that’s horrible Steven” lmao if something ever happens to me I want these detectives on my case, I love their energy
@david alejandro To be fair, while they're both morons, I doubt Jim Smyth himself could've gotten any progress with this idiot, he was insistent on just denying everything and pretending he was out of it
This interrogation is hilarious. Between his shitty "im insane srsly" facade and both detectives just ruthlessly laying into him with their thick Southern drawls, it all really just comes together as an unintentional comedy. RIP Lauren. Justice has been served in your name. May this asshole stay in prison for all time.
There's tons of freaks like this around. Always keep your blinds closed at night. Expect someone could be peeping. She didn't suspect him because she was nice to him. Didn't mean a thing. RIP Lauren.
My roommates sometimes leave the curtains and blinds open at night and I've gotten into the habit of ALWAYS checking them and closing them tight as soon as the sun sets. I don't want them to think I'm being paranoid or annoying by bringing it up to them but I still make sure they get closed at night. Honestly, I have no idea how anyone can feel comfortable just leaving them open after sunset. Even if you know there's no one peeping (which you can never be sure of) it freaks me out having them open at night. I can't see anything going on outside but I know if anyone is out there they can see INSIDE just perfectly. Plus seeing the reflections of stuff on the windows plays tricks on my mind and freaks me out even more.
I've been stalked in the past. It changes you. One was a sex offender and I was forced to quit my job and move away to get rid of him. I was told I was overreacting even when this individual followed me home in a cab. I feel for this woman and anybody who has dealt with this situation. Oddly enough I lived in Macon when this happened. Stay safe out there everybody.
Yeah when I got a restraining order against my abusive ex who was stalking me, I was told by some (male) coworkers that I was being immature and that I needed to get over it or let it go 🙄 my ex and I worked together at the time and our supervisors would have to schedule us around each other so they were mad about that but not mad about him stalking me 😡
@@TalkBack17 Wow... I hope you hit 'em with that major reality check. Seriously, who gets mad at a victim when the abuser caused the problems in the first place?
If someone who has never displayed paranoia suddenly begins to feel paranoid or watched... That's their intuition. I'm sorry no one listened to you. It's bs
I’ve seen this case covered on many channels, even watched the interrogation videos of this creep but this is the first time I’ve heard so much background coverage. Thank you for this deeply researched report.
The other detective cracking up at 1:19:56 and his colleague glaring at him was funnier than it should have been. I cannot even imagine the years of work it takes to build up patience like theirs.
people are funny ... remember the woman who drowned her 5 kids while she had them lined up watching each other getting killed .... imagine how her friends and family felt about her
Actually when you look at a lot of true crime it's not that uncommon for the perp to do. At this point I'd probably be suspicious of everybody when someone disappears, especially people who appeared a bit "too concerned".
He decided to do the good cop/bad cop routine himself. The transition from trying to make him feel safe enough to talk to "You're just a sorry piece of shit who doesn't give a fuck." was great.
I've probably seen just about every doc about this case, interrogation included, but you actually gave new info I've never heard! Love the attention to detail and the quality. Just subscribed! On my way to binge, keep up the great work!
Same here. Ive watched everything on this particular case, including several different analysis videos on the interrogation, and I was very pleased at the new information given in this one that I knew nothing about.
It’s so bizarre and weird! His robotic tone of voice in the interrogation vs his personality during the news interview. For a guy that was going to be a lawyer he didn’t seem to have much common sense or a sense of decency.
Same here I didn’t know about the entry he had made about faking crazy if he was ever caught. From other analysts they speculated it could’ve been genuine mental shut down like some form of defensive mechanism or if he was intentionally being like that to throw the detectives off. Not only that but had no idea lauren was already weary about being watched and had taken preventive measure such as the door jammer. Dreading really does amazing work with his content
The fact that this weirdo thinks that suddenly being quiet and soft-spoken after being such a Chatty Kathy earlier in the day WONT be suspicious is hilariously dumb. And this guy was supposed go be a lawyer? I hope Lauren can rest in peace, and that her family is eventually able to her heal from her loss ❤️
@@heatherchandler1184 He was trying to fake insanity - The weird monotone voice... Just the yes or no answers along with "I don't understand" in response to simple, simple questions... He was trying to act a certain way to avoid being held accountable for his actions. He knew they knew he did it and that he was the only suspect and acting like he was oblivious to what had happened he thought he could claim he was insane at the time of the crime and there fore not responsible for what happened.
I was a foster parent for 10 years and I had a little girl, she was 9 and she acted just like he does when he is talking to the cops. Whenever she was "caught", she instantly went into this "mode". It was really sad and kinda spooky. I worked with her really hard on trying to learn that telling the truth or explaining what happened, is a good thing. She went to therapy, but this was all she did, and the therapist couldnt get thru to her. I had her for a year and by the time she went home she had made so much improvement!! I think about her alot and I hope she was able to grow out of it. The poor journalist....can you imagine being the one who broke the news to him about the body and then now knowing that he was the killer and she had no idea. It really would make my spine tingle probably for the rest of my life.
She may have RAD (reactive attachment disorder) it is one of the most difficult disorder to provide mental health services to. I pray the little girl was able to bond to others and live a healthy life. I’m a social worker and seen a lot of children like that and many ended up in residential because they became a danger to themselves and others in the home.
I’ve only seen the JCS video of this case, and I never knew that he threw the torso away and the police found it before the interview. Seeing him absolutely shut down on TV, realizing his life is over, is absolutely wonderful. Love the content, man! Keep it up! 😁
I’ve heard quite a bit about this case but you’re the only channel that has gone so in depth regarding his online behavior. The research you do is really well done.
I usually listen to stuff like this while trying to fall asleep, and your voice is so good for it. Most true crime channels try to speak in a very dramatic way, but you’re so soft spoken it works ;_; thanks for that.
The fact that he was just able to google how to get in a door with a door stopper and was given a solution x-x like the internet is a beautiful and cursed thingg
This. This was the scariest part for me. She did everything correct, including alerting others, choosing online law prep courses, extra security features, being an incredibly amamzing person, ect. I Googled how he did it. You need a "reciprocating saw" I wonder if that is the same thing he bought to eventually dismember her.
@@geniemememe5936 I gotta say, I highly doubt he used a reciprocating saw to get past the security bar. Those are pretty damn loud, especially when they are in contact with what they are cutting, and she was sleeping in her room which I imagine wasn't far away considering its an apartment complex affordable for students. I'll bet if you google and slueth a bit more, you'll find how he did it, but that most definitely wasn't it.
That interview of him made it so obvious he did it. It was like a light bulb went off in his head and he realized he was caught. He couldn’t hide his emotions and was freaking out because he knew he was caught. I have never seen someone so obviously guilty during a tv interview
@@neshayshockey can’t say I blame you after seeing this but for the love of god please don’t judge us normal dudes based off this weirdo and Chris watts😂 Steve Irwin and Mr rogers are also men (the first two that come to mind trying to think of the best men examples)
This case gets to me because I notice that I tend to get approached by people who might seem weird to most, and I always try to be polite or kind. Some have developed into really good friends or acquaintances. Now that I live alone, while I do consider myself cautious and safe, I still feel like I'm one Stephen McDaniel away from a similar fate to poor Lauren. May she rest in peace.
I totally feel you on this. I was always one to reach out to the outcasts and try to be a friend. When I was younger I found out that a boy that was bullied that I befriended…-a friend of mine saw him drawing pictures of naked anime girls that looked like they were supposed to be me and a friend of mine. I cut ties and sadly I keep my distance from everyone now. It’s sad but true that sometimes outcasts are outcasts for a reason. It’s just so sad and a dangerous slippery slope, but making someone feel happy about themselves isn’t something I’m willing to risk my own safety over anymore now that I’m older and understand how people can be.
So sad that all she tried to do was treat this guy with kindness and the respect he never got from anyone else, and he does this to her just cause she doesn’t see him the way he wants her to. Sometimes people avoid people like this for a reason, it’s your instinct, but you can’t always assume outsiders are “stalkers” or violent people.
Thats the real, truly scary part of this case. You can't just assume every weirdo is going to be like this guy. Yet people like this guy DO exist. It seems like in most cases its usually the lack of kindness and respect that drives a person like him to do such horrific things to people. But in his case, it was the exact opposite. She gave him kindness and respect freely and willingly, without expectations, because it was simply in her nature to be that way. She more than likely thought nothing of it, and it was likely no different than the way she interacted with evryone her path crossed thru out the course of a day...gas station clerks..mail man..waiters..the lady cashier in the check out aisle at the grocery store..the person folding their clothes next to her at the laundromat..etc. Who would ever think for an instant that kind of thing would get a person stalked and murdered? Typically it wouldnt..but for some reason it did in this case. It's very strange, and the complete randomness of it is frightening. Its incredibly sad that fate had put this guy in her life, and her kind nature ended up being the very thing that triggered his obsession, and put her in his sights..while in any other case it would have been a lack of kindness and respect.
@@mattjack3983 I’m like this lady, and it’s funny you mention gas station clerks. I had a nice older guy that would talk to me. He offered to bake me some food from his country, and even though he was being nice, I listen to too much of these stories to play a dramatic scenario of what could be in the food 😂 I’ve seen too many nice people get screwed over, thanks to these stories and any scam type of shows I’ve been watching. It’s best to stay to yourself in public but also remind yourself that world is also filled with some decent people. You just have to stay wise cause some people will take advantage of nice people.
@@katness4224 I agree. People should be kind to each other, but be cautious too. The girl in this tragic story had a bad feeling about this guy. He was a weirdo, and she had told people that he made her uncomfortable. When someone gives you creeper vibes like that, its best to listen to what your gut is telling you. If you have a bad feeling about someone, or a certain situation, you definitely shouldn't ignore it. Even if it turns out that you're wrong, and the person or situation is totally innocent and harmless, you still ALWAYS listen to your gut instincts. Its better to end up being wrong than to end up getting killed.
His interrogation is so infuriating, I can totally see why he talked to him like that his whole act was such a farce you can tell he’s faking the whole time. Like the detective said, he’s a sorry-ass boy.
He’s acting so weird. Like he’s speaking with no tone or emotion? Like that’s clearly not normal and is something a freak would do. But he’s too much of a freak to notice that he’s not like other humans.
I don't even know how the detectives kept it together while interrogating this monster. My blood was boiling the whole time he was lying and answering like the idiot he is - "yes", "no", I don't remember" etc....
@@sheisaMachine He's doing it on purpose. The video even showed him stating online he would act weird/with no memory so he gets institutionalised rather than imprisoned. But he's a moron so he thinks talking like this is all he needs to do.
Learning about this case made me really angry. As someone who's struggled with making friends due to a fear of talking to people (at least casually, professionally I do fine), I absolutely hate how people like this asshole only serve to make it tougher for people who are just shy and/or awkward, since people need to be on guard for the off-chance they run into someone like him. I'm really sorry that Lauren lost her life because of this freak.
I am the same. On a personal level totally shy, awkward and mostly silent but at work totally normal and fine. Really dont understand why it is the way it is. Would love to be the same level in both situations🤷♀️
@@ginexkasachstan I think a major part of the problem for me is that I'm just really afraid to ask people if they wanted to have a casual hangout or something like that, largely due to a fear of being told "No" and a feeling of embarrassment that comes with it. It happened all the time with people I tried to befriend as a kid, so nowadays I guess I'm just afraid to even bother trying to ask. Yet at work I'm able to join conversations and make small talk about non-work related subjects just fine. It really is tough to describe why this is the case.
I normally find the odd people, and the people who are quiet to be the easiest for me to personally approach, because I struggle with anxiety myself and usually avoid the loud, over talkative and over embellishing people. I normally find that I personally have a lot more in common with the quiet people, they usually think a lot, and when they do open up, they make pretty good conversation.
I've seen so much coverage on this case but I've never seen it covered so well. Thank you for shining a light on Lauren more than others who really focus more on Steven.
Lauren gets murdered for being friendly and polite with her male neighbor and trying to help him be more social. Bianca Devins gets murdered for not wanting to be in a relationship with the older friend obsessed with her. Caroline Nosal says no when her coworker asks her out and gets fatally shot. Same with Janese Talton-Jackson who was shot by a man at a bar. And Miya Marcano. There's just no way to win. And simultaneously, we're called bitches, uptight, mean, rude when we don't engage with men and are told "He's a nice guy, give him a chance"
As a man I must say that there are definitely plenty of creeps out there and murderers are way beyond that definition but grouping all men with this pile of human trash is extremely absurd. I’m not bragging but my wife is extremely attractive and since the day we started dating guys always stare at her and try to pretend they’re not. When I’m not there she gets ogled way more and hit on constantly. I’m not a jealous person and my wife ignores it for the most part and just raises her hand with her wedding ring and says sorry. That being said, she says there have only been a few times she’s felt really uncomfortable as opposed to just annoyed in her entire life. Most men don’t have twisted intentions and only a ridiculously small percentage of men do what this scumbag did. They should all be tied down and let any family or friends of the victim do whatever they want for as long as they want in my opinion. Same for child molesters. Although I think it’s a bit much to say all men are like this. Just my opinion. Have a nice day and have a wonderful life😊
@@snuglife4595 as a lady, I agree with you. There's some absolute creeps out there but I've met men who can be persistent and still respectful and men who don't take no for an answer and keep a tirade going on how women suck. It definitely goes both ways for either side of the coin, women can be absolutely obsessive creeps too
Dreading, You’ve successfully managed to literally make me stop watching all other true crime TH-camrs and only watch your videos. Completely unintentionally I’ve been doing this. Your channel is what I go to nowadays that I can trust to get accurate information. Thank you for shedding light on all these cases!
Damn. Those two detectives would have cracked me in the first 10mins. That pissed-off-southern-dad drawl would have me sweating up a storm and stammering all over myself. Love love love your content. Please keep uploading
A little past the 2 hr mark, when pink shirt detective got up and walked over to sit next to Steven,he looked like he was fixing to take off his belt! I got scared lol
It's interesting to see the moment the killer learns the police have found the body and to watch him process the fact that it is most likely going to lead to his arrest. You could almost see the soul leave his body
This goes to show the power of intuition. If something feels wrong, it most likely is. It's sad because she did everything right by taking extra security measures.
@@jeanbeans7926 idk maybe she didn’t know someone had a key and thought someone broke in by picking the lock. It’s sad she had to take extra security measures to begin with but that’s the world today.
I was stunned that she was sleeping with the blinds cracked open, though. That's how he figured out she was using the door jam and was able to figure out how to break in. Which he would have still probably figured out, but it makes you wonder. This breaks my heart.
@@jeanbeans7926that too but not her fault. He probably would’ve did it again. So sad this happened to her n she was nothing but extremely nice to him.😢
As someone who had to move cities because of a neighbor, I emplore you all: trust your gut! If you feel like you're being watched you most likely are! Keep yourself safe!
he is supposed to be "not sane" and, I guess, in his opinion, not asking added to his "mental illness" defence but he doesn't realise that he's the idiot here.
There is something very intense about those detectives with their southern drawl questioning him. They remind me of Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson in True Detective. (That show scared the heck outta me!) I love how they pull their chair right next to him, call him buddy. They aren't buying his B.S. one bit. His act is ridiculous, he's answering every question, just slowly. I hope his cellmates beat the hell out of him, daily.
i’ve seen people (not necessarily in this comment section) talk about how Lauren should’ve known better/stopped being nice etc, and this point of view always frustrates me. i wonder how many more cases in which a woman gets violently murdered by a man that the woman will still get blamed. Lauren was never at fault, whether she was nice or mean. i hope that in the future, a lot more sons will be raised to believe that just because a girl is nice to you- doesn’t mean she is leading you on or giving you a chance. like i said, i haven’t seen any comments like that in this section, but i’ve seen it before- albeit probably by incels. thank you for portraying the case in it’s entirety and painting Lauren in the right picture, and not giving excuses for why she lost her life. you’ve been my new favorite channel for awhile now! keep up the good work
It's doubly frustrating when you know that ad a woman it's often the better option to be nice at first because too many people have experienced violence from just turning someone down, especially without sugarcoating it. These weirdos think they're entitled to a person and then freak out, unfortunately sometimes to this horrifying degree. It's awful.
@@shamkay832 clearly you’re on the better place on the internet than i, weird to be picking a fight about it. many people have blamed her for “leading him on.” thanks for replying, “love”
@@shamkay832 Weird how you’re suddenly the comment section police and if someone says something like “It is weird that anyone on earth thinks it’s okay to blame a woman for her death” your reaction is to call someone an SJW. Either you’ve never seen an incel or you are one lol
“Look at me, son!” I bet the first detective wished that he wouldn’t have said that, because from that moment on, Stephen was laser focussed into looking in the detective’s eyes. Ha, ha. I was a little worried when he kept leaning back that he would snap that chair in half. Excellent job you did on this video, excellent sound and research. Good job. Love this channel!
I love how the one detective sits in dumbfounded silence when he admitted he wears the same underwear over and over without cleaning it. It's almost like he had a moment where he questioned whether he picked the right profession. Both of these detectives have the patience of Job to put up with this guy's act.
I appreciate so much that you’re covering this case. It happened not even a quarter mile down the street from my house when i was in high school. I was walking the dog with my best friend and we wondered at the crowd of the cops and reporters around the apartment complex; that was just before they found some of her in the garbage. Even now hearing her name makes my heart strain. She just seemed so good and lovely, and her death was one of the worst I can imagine. Thank you for talking about her. May her memory live on forever, and may she rest in peace.
Rewatching this interrogation and it’s so interesting how he tries to portray insanity. Even with the monotony and apathy in his voice he’s still strategic and logical with what he remembers and the questions he chooses to actually answer vs “I don’t know”. Very telling
Watching the interrogation is unsettling. He is a f*ing weirdo. He wouldn't shut up when he was talking to the camera. How long was that interview!? It went on and on. He wanted everyone to think they were so close and part of the same friend group, constantly saying "we". He sure had a lot of information about her and her daily movements for a neighbor that hadn't seen her in 3 weeks. P.S. I hope that rediculous appeal is reason enough to deny him parole for the rest of his life.
The interview with the reporter was like an interrogation too. Can you imagine if he was innocent and her really close friend and was being asked question after question about every little possible thing by thiem. Listen again, it's so incredibly annoying how she asks question after question and he gives long detailed answers. It's horrific to listen to.
He is just so creepy. I can’t imagine her fear when he was hurting her. He’s so horrible. You described Stephan as tidy and well organized but his apartment was not at all.
Having been an awkward type of guy like him before in my life I have never ever thought to be as disgustingly possessive towards another person like that. Instead I treasure the people like Lauren in my life who showed me kindness and helped me out of my shell.... LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN DOES. Thankfully I'm doing great these days.
This video is posted on many channels, but this is the only channel that told about the plan he shared about how he would act if interrogated. Great job!!!
What makes me so angry and sad about this case is how preventable it really was. After the master key was stolen, the property manager should have immediately changed all locks on the premises and revoked any access to that key. A simple camera also would have alerted Lauren of that presence she felt. Her gut and intuition were so spot on. She could have stayed with a friend or family member until her lease was up. All could of, would of, should of at this point. 😔 RIP Lauren, you really did not deserve this.
I once read a comment saying "life isn't movie, sometimes the 'weird' person is alone for a reason". I thought it just fit this so well
I've learned that the hard way several times.
I invited a boy to join our lunch table cuz he was eating g alone. He then started hitting on me and my other friend in front of our boyfriends, invited my boyfriend over to his house to play hide and seek tag with knives, and showed up to my sweet 16 dressed like a cowboy and gave me a bear bracelet. He then asked me why I wasn't wearing the bracelet every single day for the rest of the year.
We called him creepy Austin, and he was probs the most non-threatening weirdo I've associated with, but dang, should have left him alone at that lunch table.
@@kassassin_brahgawk that is really creepy. Though as a bloke, I must admit have dated a bunny boiler in the past... I imagine she could have killed me if she chose.
I know I personally didn't even know that life wasn't a movie til I read a quote saying life isn't a movie. Lmao. Genius!
Movies are starting to pick up on this too. I once watched a Nerd explains video on a horror movie about a group of outcast banding together to get revenge on their bullies. Needless to say, they were outcasts for a reason.
@@ryanharriss7950 Please tell me you got a restraining order.
"What kind of person breaks into someone's home and doesn't take anything?"
The worst kind. If they haven't come for your stuff, they've come for you.
Sent shivers up my spine but so true. :(
No shi# captain obvious 😂
@@mikesprigg5495lol
He took her life
feds
The fact that she felt an ominous presence for months, to the point of staying at a friend's house.... Is just wild
We are all imbued with these ancient instincts for a reason. She knew, she just didn't know how or why. A camera would have solved this.
Rena, repent
And keeping her windows uncovered ??
We all have good intuition, we just don't channel it enough.
@@jackpeacock3817
That's right Jack.
"You ever get tired of saying I don't know?"
*Immediately struggles not to say I don't know again*
And and... how many times you gonna say 'I don't know?'
*internal struggle*
"I don't understand"
she was probably the first woman to ever show him genuine respect and kindness, and THAT is what he did to her. instead of giving that respect back, he decided that she was an object he was allowed to claim, and that he wasnt willing to share. thats what he saw her as. a toy. dont ever forget that. if he truly cared abt her, admired her, and wanted to be in a relationship with her and love her, he never wouldve done what he did.
i’m sure that he called himself a nice guy and didn’t know why only douchebags get girls :( well guess what you’re not a nice guy you’re a freaking incel
So very true. A true and utter "incel".
yep. the widespread outcome of patriarchy run amok
As a woman it's hard sometimes to trust your instincts when you want to be a kind person. People weren't just being cruel to him. He really was dangerous and they were picking up on that. I always remind my daughters to trust their instincts. They are there for a reason. Don't override them.
@@ZIGGU Exactly.
one of the creepiest parts of this for me is how he keeps saying “we” in the news interview, as if he was part of her family and friends, groups of people that loved and cared for her. so gross
Yeah I definitely agree
LOL i left the same comment, something along the lines of, "who is _we?!"_
To him he was to her he was the weird neighbor she was nice to only one who really seemed to be kidn to him showing him respect and love form her heart sadly how amazing she was to show him kindness and respect he did that to her fact went had someone talking to him smile see how he was and ignored people saying oh dont talk to him he's a creep dangerous a weirdo she didn't care and thought everyone deserves to feel seen and heard awful just awful
I caught that too. It's clear that he is trying to come off as a friendly acquaintance. Or maybe he really believed it.... so delusional
Notice when she asked "did she have any enemies?". He noticeably felt guilt, tried to switch topic back to "we dont know where she is".
I love how this dude was studying to be a criminal attorney and yet he doesn't ask for a lawyer the minute the detective starts talking to him. I also have no idea how the detective kept from rolling his eyes at this performance.
Two or three idiots sit in a room. What do they talk about?
The detectives were just as dumb as Stephen.
What makes you think he wasn’t rolling his eyes the whole time? Certainly not his words, because that was the biggest indicator that he was. Was it the close up image of his face & eyes? Lol
He didn't ask because he already stated he was attempting to act crazy and like he was unaware of what was going on. So I think that's why he didn't ask for a lawyer
@@PlanetKaylah attempting lol
He was trying to pull the crazy card. Rational people ask for lawyers. He's "not all there"
I went to this law school. She and the tragedy are NEVER mentioned. There is no in memorium there is no day of remembrance and to my knowledge there isn’t even a plaque. I never even heard her name. The law school keeps this very hush hush. The only people who talk about it are the city folk who said “yeah that poor girl from the law school was killed and her body parts were put all around town”. It infuriates me how she is erased from history in the college and almost from the town itself.
Probably because she was an online student.
@@PallasAndDove her body was all over the city and even if she was online only that still doesn’t change my opinion
That’s a good question,.,What if it was all a cover up and he didn’t do it ..
it’s not like she was murdered at the school…i don’t get why you think the school should honor her…can you explain why??
Her colleagues and/or anyone that cares about Lauren should set a scholarship program in her name to commemorate her. If many people chip's in I would imagine it doesn't cost too much for everyone. Just a suggestion...
I wish someone had suggested a "nanny cam" to put her mind at ease and then discovering, with the proof, what was happening. Lauren would be alive & he would have been charged.
Such a simple solution 😢
I bought a camera for $30 on sale, it's 4K 60fps, has built in wireless and it saves to an SD card - it does require a small amount of technical knowledge to get motion detection and notification e-mails working but for $30 with no monthly fees they should start to become way more common
Very optimistic of you to believe that that somehow would have made cops care about stalking
@@Pandidolod
She would have had proof someone was coming into her apartment for starters so she would have moved out whether or not the cops charged him and yes she'd still be alive. I really don't know how you're not getting that 🤷
how can you not know someone is on your home? seriously? If I felt that I would of looked in the closet or something...
the pictures of lauren were wonderful. it’s essential to remind viewers that victims were real people with full inner lives - so many of us can be desensitized. we forget how truly tragic it is when a human being, with dreams and desires, has their life violently stolen. she seemed like a lovely, vibrant young woman, with the whole world ahead of her. may she rest in peace.
Thanks for saying that
She seemed like she genuinely wanted to help people and was super smart & hardworking. Stories like this are devastating :(
Without fail, when someone is killed, they happen to be this 1 in a million angel. This time it really does appear to be the case. She would have been an amazing public defender in a state where someone like her is desperately needed. We'll never know the impact this jackass had on the world.
You're so right
Well said mate! I 100% agree with you, I think we can sometimes forget that these are real people with real families.
There's no way the news reporter didn't suspect him, she asked so many questions which seemed weirdly specific for a news report
I thought that as well lol
Its so weird for news reporters to ask questions.
That was dumb luck.
@@RavnerRavner nah once he freaked out when they mentioned the body was found she knew he was involved.
@@beautifulsurprise9424 this reporter was a small town first assignment type. You could tell by the way they were asking questions. You're mistaking lifeless, obtuse questions for intuitive police interrogation.
Detective: look at me Stephen
Stephen: 👀
Detective: oh god not like that
😂
Hilarious
Lmfao 😂
Detective :C’mon Stephen!!!!***
😂❤
I'm kind of a loner too. And I've known people like Lauren, who always seem to go out of their way to talk to me. I love people like that. I don't need them to acknowledge me, but the fact that they make an effort to include me and get to know me is touching and always appreciated. stephen is a simp freak and I hope he's still lonely.
I hope he's somebody's girlfriend.
@@Thor-Orion 🤣😂🤣😂
@@Thor-Orion oh I’m sure of that. Plus, he’s probably very popular with the other inmates. I’m sure they line up for his legal advice.
I'm female and I'm a loner too! It's sucks 😕
@@Thor-Orion With hair that purrrdy I'm sure he is 💑👬
I love the fact this channel is like having two at the same time…The story is told AND you get the interview and summary…different
Yep, dreading is awesome ❤
Agree - Dreading and Ten to Life are the two True Crime TH-camrs I love to watch!
48 hours is good too.
@@summertimerobot437 EWU is also great. I also really like That Chapter.
@@Leslie_Knopeewus actual videos are great but the titles and thumbnails are in bad taste, it’s a far cry from the kind of respect dreading and Dave’s lemonade give these crimes
And the way the story told is so good and easier to follow than like 90% of true crime channels that spend the majority of their videos speculating
“Name one cuz everybody I talked to say they ain’t yo friend” 😭
You could tell that detective did not like this ratfaced kid, and not just because he’s a cold blooded murderer, but because he’s a pathetic little weasel and a terrible actor.
fucking savage 😂
Lmfaoo
did him so dirty as he should lmao
i love the detective💀💀, he kept embarrassing him throughout the whole interview
For someone who was about to become a lawyer he sure is stupid. All that stalking and planning and he was still the sloppiest killer ever. His acting is ridiculous. And that reporter was SO SMART to keep him talking. She Damn well knew people suspected him. Good on her.
The reporter may not have known off the jump, but the way his mood swings when she mentions finding the body was a giant red flag.
plus it was great tv
The reality is there is no surefireway to get away with murder and you're gonna look like an idiot trying especially if it's sexually motivated. The cases people have gotten away with it either had no sexual component or had mountains upon mountains of luck and usually both.
The worst thing is..he didn't ask for a damn lawyer. 😅😅😅😅
Yea leaving the hacksaw in public was dumb- be was close with disposing of the body tho. Still, they'd probably have enough without one but man that's a risk
In fairness and out of context, his reaction to the fact that a body was found could be one of fear or shock in losing a friend. Knowing the back story makes it obvious that this is not the case .
he wasnt even her friend. she said hi to him
@@pinkpugginz that's why they said out of context..
His reaction to being told that a body was found in the trash was absolutely a genuine reaction. Like you said at the time one could have thought he was upset for a completely different reason that what it actually was. Now, looking back on it we can now put the proper context to the reaction. It was a genuine reaction of “oh sh*t, I am f*cked”.
People in shock or fear won't continue the interview, won't just accept that the body found was hers, he would run trying to find more, maybe doubt the remains are human remains...etc, he is very very suspicious from that moment up, specially the way his demeanor changed, talking more, spilling new details he was obviously holding back before the fact of knowing...etc
Dangerous boy
@@armurph1102 exactly….he thought the garbage would have been picked up by then
You know, for someone claiming they didn't see her a lot, he rambles on a lot about what she does. It's this weird dance between "I couldn't have done it, I barely knew her" and "I care about her so much it couldn't have been me"
Also, saying they were friends and he appreciated how nice she was would have helped explain his reaction when the reporter said they found her body. "I barely knew her- I act like this whenever I hear someone died..." is less convincing
I thought the same thing. He knew her whole schedule.
Hahahaha exactly right!
Like in Australia we have a TV show called “A Current Affair” and you get a lot of dodgy people on there.
Some woman tried to set her son house alight and was confronted if it was her on the video.
She says: “It looks like me, it could be me, it might be me, but it’s not me” 🤦🏽♀️
I went down a rabbit hole on this case several years back and found all of Stephen's posts on different forums where he discusses faking insanity and also specifically references wanting to rape and kill Lauren. (He doesn't use her name, but he describes her.) I was never able to remember where I found the posts, though, so nobody ever believed me when I mentioned them. I'm happy to see that you also found some of them and included them in this video for reference.
I would have liked seeing those..but I.m not computer smart..a lot of us old dogs aren't..I crawled into the Jodi arias rat hole..but the info was all over the place..😝
You want a fantastic rabbit hole to go down? Check out Chandler Halderson.
@@catface3473Travis Alexander crawled into Jodi Arias' rat hole, too.
Yes that's a true statement. He had a notebook or diary saying if he gets caught he'll pretend he doesn't remember n play insane. He did a bad acting job.
This premeditated borderline catatonic state could only have (possibly) worked if he got caught by police immediately after committing the crime. You can’t just hop into that state after you JUST chatted it up in a TV interview.
Wonderful presentation as usual guys!
Just glad I got truth out about JOHN LENNONS assassination. A professional hit...2 gunmen. Shot in the front. Book - Mind games, due out soon about the truth.
Except it did work. His terrible job of destroying evidence got him caught. You realize they had to release him after the interrogation right? The hack saw and his zip drive is what they needed. He owned the police during the interrogation
Exactly, the interrogation was just another fantasy playing out for this guy.
"Chatted it up" is most apt 👌🏿 I'm convinced that the newswomen suspected him as well because he knew so much about her. They just kept the questions rolling 😂 they didn't care about his tears lmao
Trueee, if he would’ve called the police on himself in “fear” than he probably could’ve said he blacked out
His reaction to them finding her remains will never cease to shock me. "They found the body? How? I moved it a whole 10 feet away on the same property where the crime was committed" . . .
Lol
The dump truck was supposed to pick it up the same day......
@@Gonken88 Dump truck? I cannot explain why I’m laughing so hard at this.
Reporter: they found a body
Killer: fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk
@@Gonken88 yes and didn’t the dump truck get off schedule? Like it was supposed to be picked up that morning but got delayed? If I remember correctly, it was lucky they found her
I'm a retired CFI, and have watched this interview multiple times. When I've trained investigators on proper interrogation technique, I refer to this one as an example of a sloppy, ineffective, and ill-prepared one.
for real, the cookie jar analogy and begging/crying "Why?!?!" and acting like an Angry Dad and insulting his sexuality/manhood, really he was throwing every weak persuasion technique at the wall. Zero rapport building
@@Iruparazzo agreed. Neither performance was convincing.
That's actually an interesting angle. I think this is the one interrogation I've seen where the perp comes out "winning" and that's probably the reason, homeboy walked in way too confident
Absolutely! The detective couldn’t hide his emotions
* neither
Growing up as a weirdo and being picked on and bullied, I never wanted to make someone else feel ostracized like I was. But as a woman, and as i grew up and had a "glow up" i realized some men will take my kindness as an opening to pursue some sexual engagement. My inner child cant sit back and watch as someone is treated as an outsider, i feel compelled to step in and be a person i wish I had in my life. But as a woman it is also dangerous; 99 weird dudes could be just that, weird, but there is always that 1 guy that acts like because you smiled at them or engaged in a pleasant way that they can push your boundaries. And when you pull back and tell them your not interested like that, they lose their shit.
You're weird
Yeah. They call women like that a “tease” or that we “led them on”, when all we did was smile and say hi. Men have smiled and said hi to me and I never thought oh that guy wants me. Yeah he wants to be my bf or marry me. Never. I don’t understand that mindset 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly. It's why lots of us rather hang out with gay dudes. Only a few dudes seem to believe and empathize with us on the issue. Most try to gaslight us "He was just saying hello!" I guess it's bc they empathize with the guy.
I appreciate the heart you have, even after being picked on. My older brother was picked on- MERCILESSLY. I will never forget him sobbing in my mom’s arms because he didn’t want to go back to school as summer ended. That was grade school!
Because of that, I can’t stay quiet when someone is being singled out either.
But in hindsight, my sympathy and being ‘nice’ has put me in more dangerous positions than anything else.
Unfortunately, that’s what most predators count on.
@@basbleupeaunoire you guys are braindead lol nobody cares you said hi to them and in this case she kept hanging out with the weirdo even when people said stop that's very different...
"He wore chainmail to class"
Oh he was that kid in school haha
It's very telling that Lauren's friends got 'danger vibes' from him. She was genuinely kind and gave him the benefit of the doubt when he didn't deserve it. He was so selfish he couldn't even appreciate how wonderful she really was.
She was such a kind person. She must have had a good family and didn't know how awful some people can be.
Yeah, those danger vibes are normally something you should pay attention to and take seriously.
Fear is a survival instinct that we have for a reason
So damn sad I am glad he was caught
@@Man_Emperor_of_Mankindwhen I was 17 I met a friend of a friend and she mad me feel so unnerved. I always bailed whenever she was invited anywhere. Fast forward a year or so, she was arrested for having her Mother murdered. Jennifer Pan is her name. She's currently serving 25 years to life. I will always trust my instincts right or wrong.
@@karabelle67 That stuff happens ALL THE TIME
Gavin De Becker's book "The Gift of Fear" is a fantastic and mildly terrifying read
"you haven't done laundry in 3 weeks"
"no."
"why not?"
"because i have a lot of clothes"
"no you don't that's another lie"
LMFAOOO
Also I chuckled when the investigator asked him about cleaning his house and then scolded him like a father "that's bad Stephen"
Fact, I had a boyfriend who had 36 pairs of underwear, and t-shirts! (He was strange too)
@@rhiisamirrorball that was so funny I was like yes officer shame that crusty murderer!!!
That took me TF out 🤣
Had me rollin' 🤣
The absolute fear and horror she must have felt when she woke up to find that he had found a way past the door jam… can’t even imagine…
Yea she needed a gun not a door stopper 😭
I know. It's horrifying. And the poor woman did everything right.
@@It-is-me...Melsie Well...
@@braidena1633 Well what?
@@It-is-me...Melsie apparently she didn't
Gotta love how he employs the "T-Rex" tactic during the interrogation. "They can't see me if I don't move".
The background provided on both the victim and perpetrator was something I'd not yet seen. You gave invaluable insight to this case. Subscribed and eager to see your next analysis.
Except she left a key outside her apt.. that wasn’t mentioned. Not something I would do just saying
@@NORMLfan13 actually the narrator did mention that when the group of concerned friends went to her apt to look for her, he joined the group n hung around until aone of the group found a key hidden outside. On another channel, they reported that the friend found the key after a relative( parent/sibling) had told them where she kept it while on the phone.
Same. I've seen this case in atleast 3 other videos but this was by far the best and most in depth
Agreed. Very impressed; not only by the extra news footage of him going on and on, no one else has shown this. No one else had delved into Lauren's character. A real treasure these days that a beautiful woman, that is smart and busy....open her life up to try to give someone else the confidence they need in life; and that she tried to include him. Her true feelings that someone was in her home. I do the things that she would do; but it always comes to bite me in the ass. I know that one day someone is just going to haul off and murder me. Not only has it already been attempted....and just because I don't want to see people left out. Its dangerous and NOT a random strangers responsibility. I also didn't see all the extra interrogation.....this case is like an onion. The layers just peel back...over and over. This case, I have watched over and over and will continue to. Apparently there were parts to this people wanted to wrap up. I see no reason to get to the bottom of it. I mean just because Lauren wasn't married with children and a big house, and a husband having an extra marital affair ~ JUST BECAUSE that wasn't the case, I feel that things were just wrapped up and closed down. The media didn't find it enough to continue pounding it into the ground , like the Watts Case. I think its just as much important. The poor woman wouldn't have even done anything but move away.
Yes, I agree that this video was well researched and it presented information that wasn’t included in other videos. I have seen maybe 4 or 5 other true crime channels cover this, they all did a fine job, but just didn’t delve into the personality and backstory of the victim and the perp. Well done! The video of him being interviewed by the news was disturbing to say the least, it was even creepier when I saw the long version included in this video. This guy is a really weird dude. It’s not clear what can really be learned, except maybe that it’s not safe to befriend everyone. If everyone in your life is telling you that you need to be careful about a weirdo neighbor, it’s maybe good to listen to them. But, I mean, this guy had stolen a key, was regularly stalking and peeping, and developed an obsession, it’s not clear that there was anything she really could have done to prevent this. Very sad indeed.
“What’s with the pair of underwear that was in your apartment? It was cut out like a mask. Do you cut underwear up to look like a mask?”😂 Detective Patterson is my favorite!
I can't imagine the horror she went through in her last moments
what an absolute monster
Like it said in the video, she took off his mask and saw who it was. Must be awful knowing she was just trying to be nice and make him more outgoing.
Especially with all the stuff leading up to it. I was a single mom with 2 daughters and a maintenance guy was coming in my apartment. It is the most nerve wracking situation. I could literally smell when he had been there. My instincts became so heightened when my daughter got out of bed in the middle of the night, the sound of her feet touching the floor would wake me up. I ended bringing both my daughters to sleep with me at night and I put a hook n eye on the bedroom door, knowing the sound would wake me up and with my kids already there I was shooting through the door. I kept the hallway light on so I could see under the door the dark spot if there was anyone there. I had my concealed carry permit because I worked for a controversial politician. I started carrying a gun everywhere just for my return home. I would have one of the girls unlock the door and go in first secretly holding a gun in both hands behind them, blocking the basement door with my foot covering the steps and the front door. Something was about to happen, I could feel it. I'm so glad we got out in time. If I didn't have kids I'm sure I would have handled it alot like Lauern Giddings.
@@poutinedream5066 wait... how did your apartment have a basement? This story isnt adding up.
@@nickyblue4866 Some apartments allow tenants access to the basement if it's in their unit. Especially if it's a converted house or something similar.
@@last9up that's some Scream shit
“I didn’t know her at all we never talked. She was so nice and such a great person” pants heavily and seams to know her quite well and feels this much remorse for someone he didn’t know.
The news broadcaster must have picked up his body language and that’s why she kept asking him questions and he was not expecting that. Who ever she is she did a superb job on highlighting how strange he was acting. He literally saw his whole life flash by and had an existential crisis on air for the world to see.
Agree 100%!!
Apparently she didn't have a clue. So what do you think now? Please, we're all dying to know.
The lady asked and answered her own questions before he could even get a syllable out the guestion was answered and 3 more were asked and answered by her
@@Robin_Coffins why are you being an asshole?
She even asked him what kind of person WAS she
Detective: “You went a week without cleanin?? that’s HORRIBLE”
Me knowing damn well I haven’t cleaned my apartment in 2 weeks
When I was a kid, I went almost 3 months without cleaning my room.
This comment 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
I immediately felted attacked 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"That's bad SCOTT!"
3 months later... Hv you cleaned yet???
What's really scary is that this guy almost became a lawyer
Horseshoes, handgrenades and atomic weapons, a miss is as good as a mile
Don't really know why that's scary.
@@nervoussips2622 Seriously?
@@anpp99 yeah I don't see how it has anything to do with being a lawyer was he going to kill his clients? What was he going to do as a lawyer that is so scary. Just because if he would have become a lawyer it's highly unlikely that any law firm would ever hire him.
Just like ted bundy lol smh
working at a thrift store as a teenager i had some insane experiences with creepy men. very quickly you learn that you CAN'T be nice or they come back.
It's SO hard to be rude though. Ugh. I always worry about other people's feelings, even people I don't feel right about.
@@ShouldHaveBeenAStripper I wasn’t ever rude, I just didn’t make eye contact really or “engage” with them
@@sandyshanks111 If I ever felt actually threatened I would just walk away and tell my manager.
I was nice to everybody in my customer service roles. Some men take it the wrong way. Like the trucker who wanted me to ride along with him to “keep him company”. Yikes!
@@ttf4now very big yikes!! I would get a lot of offers to be my “friend” when i explained I had a boyfriend
I love how Stephen thinks by making eye contact and not asking for a lawyer it will make them think he’s telling the truth. Man he is so bad at being a criminal.
And to think he was going to school for law 🤦🏼♀️
He got super cocky. He was a really good law student, close to straight A's, he thought that would translate to him not getting caught.
Stephen deploys the famous "be a weird freak during the interrogation so I can plead insanity until the notebook where I wrote down my plans to murder Lauren and feign mental illness is discovered but the jury is so utterly skeeved out by the interview footage they vote not guilty by reason of insanity anyway" plan. 0% of the time, it works every time.
Yeah this guy is straight up dumb
Chris Watts thought the same thing. Those types think they’re the smartest in the room.
It is so terrifying and disgusting that something as simple as being kind towards the wrong person can result in them becoming obsessed with you, create an idealised version of you in their head that doesn't exist and feeling so entitled to you that they brutally murder you...so you can't ever shatter their fantasies by living your own life that doesn't revolve around them.
Yeah, theyre not shy akward and lonely, needing for help and friendship. Theyre sociopaths putting a honey trap. Its good to help a weirdo with kindness but you have to trust your gut when you sense somethings off with the quiet ones. But how do you avoid someone Who lives right next door. Anything you do can either provoke some weird lust or anger. Like do you greet them or not to keep the peace. When their gaze meets you do you nod and smile or use a resting bitch face. Their is no winning with these creeps. I do have to say since ive stopped being kind to strangers and stopped trusting men as friends ive no longer been graped, attacked, stalked or anything else. So ive learned my lesson about being kind. And i was hard to learn. I kept trying and saying theyre not all the same. But as soon as you give them a finger theyll even fake an entire friendship Just to get in your pants. So now i prob miss out on some great guys. But i kinda prefer not being prayed upon or being used. So im good being all allone myself now moving forward.
No good deed goes unpunished. 😞
I've known at least a half dozen grown men that believed clerks, waitresses, bartenders, any woman in a service position that was being cheerful and friendly to them, mostly for tips I'm sure, well these dweebs would then think these women wanted them, it was a sign etc etc...desperate can convince one of most anything....everyone of these guys are still single, sad
I used to be kind to a guy who worked in the same shopping centre as me and got my bus and would talk to me all the time. He was very awkward and seemed a bit slow. I made it very clear I lived with my partner. After a few weeks he asked me on a date so I reminded him I had a boyfriend and apologised. The next day and every day after for a week he got off the bus at my stop and followed me toward home. I had to just keep walking so he wouldn't know where I lived until I could get someone to pick me up or I'd keep looping the same street so he'd give up. I didn't know what to do because I was scared if I antagonised him he might do something. I ended up stopping at the doors of the bus and said out loud If you get off and follow me again I'm calling the police and pressing charges. He didn't get off. Needless to say I changed buses. I still have to occasionally see him in the centre but I was lucky and confronting him was enough. I don't talk to strangers any more!
There's no harm in being nice, well... not nice, agreeable. BUT I always say to trust your instincts. You know yourself, you know if something is just your mind doing what your mind does or if it's something different. For Lauren that something was unusual, and she did the right thing, she acted upon it by installing that door jammer thing. And it wasn't enough. What would YOU have done? You would think that if you secure your place, the place is secure, wouldn't you? It's a tragedy. I would have felt I did enough to be safe. I would have thought that the only thing that can happen is the house sinking into a hole, the roof collapsing or being bombed or hit by a meteor or idk. What the hell can happen? I can get shot through a window I guess. Someone has put a hitman on my 4SS.... but that's thinking on a bit of a crazy side. It could happen but then anything can happen. And... it did. Wtf. There is always hindsight with these heartbreaking cases but being 100% reasonable when it would have saved a life was exactly what took place. Not everyone has two apartments they can run between. And who knows whether doing that would have done anything because there was the stalking. Does anyone know of more reasonable precautions that should have been put in place that would have saved Lauren? Honestly.
During his fake catatonic state I wonder how many times he thought "fuck. They're not buying it."
I think he's more smug than that. He thinks they can't prove anything even with the torso, and he likes what he thinks is a cat and mouse game. He reminds me of Munchhausen Syndrome, but it's the cops and the press is the target instead of doctors. He doesn't know that they will find the internet post about his playing crazy plan.
I don’t know
I think he was actually catatonic. he was found out and his world came crashing down
@@pinkpugginz I personally don't believe it..especially with him saying/writing earlier that this is what he would do if ever caught for anything heinous and try to play the crazy card....
I could be wrong of course.
@@AVSgirl1985 yea thats true I wrote that comment before finishing this video. I had no idea about him writing that bs its never been reported anywhere else. the cops seemed like they knew it was fake
That interrogation was one of the most infuriating I've ever watched. The interrogators' persistence and southern drawals were the only thing keeping me from clicking off in rage lmao. His "emotionless" yes/no/idk responses were completely on purpose, thinking he could outsmart law enforcement that way. What a piece of trash. RIP Lauren. The price you paid for simply being a kind soul is so sad.
The "best part" of the whole thing was how Steven would actually answer all the questions that were given to him even if he kept that fake as fuck "1000 yard stare" and that even faker "disassociate" way of speaking. As soon as Lauren was brought up in any way, that's when we got the steven-ism's of "duh I dun kno...", and my favorite "Ah didn't doo ett..."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if he did have an actual disassociative psychotic break down, he would either answer none of the questions, or all of them would be given simmilar one word answers. For Steven, as soon as the questions move away from the subject of what he did to Lauren, he's able to speak full sentences again. What a fucking miracle.
He sounds like a scared timid little bitch and this interview pissed me off
The detective was crazy patient
@@dn22pkkdd476 He handed circumstantial evidence of his falsified dissociation in a journal entry. Search warrant was all it took before he was toast. A true monster, devouring innocence with murder and child porn.
i know its not a laughing matter but his southern drawl was just getting me sometimes. Hearing him say "LIAR" was equal parts funny and sad.
Peeping toms are very dangerous. I had one in college. He broke in and took personal items. I immediately borrowed one of my friend's big dogs to stay with me until I moved to another apartment within a few days. If you have a peeping tom, take action immediately.
👍🏼 great advice! Peeping Tom's can get obsessed with someone really fast, I'm glad the doggo scared him off
@@theawkweirdchild4675 A lot of serial killers are peeping toms before they start killing people. PS if you can't borrow a big dog, get a huge water dish and a jumbo sized chewie and extra large men's shoes and put them on the porch.
Get a firearm. I advocate for all women, and all men for that matter, to be armed and know how to use it. There are too many fucking low lives, crazy people, psychos, etc out there that will try to harm innocent people. A firearm gives a 110 lb single women a chance against a 245lb attacker.
@@Mark-uh4zd Although I am comfortable using a firearm and know how to use one, many people (especially women) are not. Bear spray and a baseball bat will work. A big dog is your best defense and a big deterrant. Nobody is getting past a guard dog inside your home, not without giving you time to reach for that bear spray, gun, or baseball bat.
@@user-lk2qf4rt3m You are very fortunate to be here right now!
The fact she did everything that is commonly advised of women to protect themselves and yet this still happened is chilling to say the least. I know of this case but really do adore the content this channel puts out so I will watch it again. Hope you get 100k soon!
You’re right, her friends even warned her. She unfortunately trusted this devil.
you can look both ways before you cross the street and still get run over .... life is cruel, short, and unfair .... just count your lucky stars no one has hated you so much to put a bullet in your head
u need to know how to spot someone ah like him.
No matter how prepared and vigilant you are if somebody wants to get to you they will.
Some ladies learn the ultra hard way with the incel/nice guy breed. It's how they're wired. It goes far beyond "not being able to get chicks", it's a motherboard-installed personality trait, and there's no fixing them. Always be skeptical, always have a back up plan, always record if you feel uncomfortable and spidy senses are tingling, be aware of your surroundings, invest in cameras if you feel in your bones that someone is entering your space. Do a 6-month to year de-bugging of home if you feel one of the vermin planted a hidden camera. Set traps, and stay strapped. You just never know. Sure, some may see it as paranoid, but guess what? Your chances of staying alive increase. People of the general masses are just too messy, gross, feral, disorderly, needy, clingy, effed up, and have their own baggage that makes engaging with lots of them not worth it. You just never know.
I am honestly completely baffled. If I had seen the TV interview he did after her murder, without knowing anything, I would 1000% have thought him to be a sweet, concerned neighbor and friend, who was heartbroken over her death. I can't believe he did and said all that while knowing he had murdered her mere hours before. That gives me goosebumps. It's like : *trust NO ONE*
As soon as he knew that body parts had been found and then went quiet, he walked away , then sat down , that’s because Adrenalin rushed into his system , mind went blank and his legs would go weak and feel like jelly , so he had to sit down before he collapsed ..
@@carolball5764Watch how the dog behind him reacts. It suddenly puts its tail between its legs and hides under the car. It sensed the guy's evil.
It was unprofessional for her to reveal evidence from an ongoing investigation to a person who, for all she knew, was a concerned loved one. Then to stick the camera in his face and keep asking questions with absolutely no regard for his mental state? Disgusting.
It just so happened he was the murderer, but it could just as easily been her friend, brother, or cousin. I had a murdered loved one have personal details of her final moments plastered onto a news article, details I didn’t know and was traumatized reading. The average reader was not bettered for knowing that information, either.
@@krystalsjustice3477exactly what I was thinking. Also, did the police want that information released to the public?
@@soclose2her That’s also what I was wondering. The way one of the detectives mentioned a few times that the killer was “running [his] mouth on the news” indicated to me that he shouldn’t have said anything because they didn’t want this info leaked
This case is so tragic. I think we women all know the feeling of not being safe, something being wrong, a gut feeling. She did what she thought was right by staying somewhere else, locking her doors, telling trusted people when she was at that time. Her last moments must have been terrifying. All because some creep thought she owed him something, just because she was kind to him. I cant believe the gall of this horrible waste of breath. How dare he hurt her like he did. Coward.
He doesnt know anything or anyone. But he knows last names and street names. So sketchy.
"She ran all the time. But the last time I saw her was a couple weeks ago"
"I never saw her. I just saw her coming back from the main campus"
"I hardly knew her. She's from Maryland and has lots of friends with keys to her apartment"
Dudes story has so many discrepancies.
That's why I feel I can't ever blame an attractive woman for being stand-off-ish or seemingly "rude" because there are many genuine creeps out there who will interpret any positive attention as an invitation to something more. Guys should also realize how, even if they have completely innocent intentions, they shouldn't take it personally when someone "unfairly" assumes they might be a creep because others need to prioritize their own safety. That needs to be respected.
Except for the times they're not, and they pick the *weirdest* times with the *weirdest* dudes lol
And yet he probably would have killed her for being rude too. Can't fkn win
After the amount of sexism i’ve read in these comments, this was such a refreshing comment. Thank you.
Attractive is opinion in mind of a person to me she is beautiful because of her personality and kindness to me people call me ugly because I'm 200 pounds not hour glass shape or a skinny blonde but I think I'm sexy af which matters
Thats why the best technique to get a hot girlfriend is to just be yourself.
His post history puts that interview in a whole new light. Thanks for the thorough and compassionate coverage. This is a horrible, chilling case.
Yep, he was an incel freak
That detective was sick of him! “ you don’t have a girlfriend, you’re never going to get a girlfriend” 😂😂 but I really want to know what was going through his head the whole time. To sit there and act like a robot for hours without breaking character is insane!!
He'll likely be a girlfriend. Not making light of it. Just saying.
@@magickmarck what do you mean
@@bluetailtailfly he's probably someone's girlfriend in prison
@@magickmarckRape isn't funny, regardless of who it's against.
@@Mr.MermanPrincewho laughed shut up focus on the topic of the video
“You mean you go a whole week without cleaning?”
“Yes”
“Why, that’s horrible Steven” lmao if something ever happens to me I want these detectives on my case, I love their energy
😂😂😂
Aye lol loved their energy
@david alejandro To be fair, while they're both morons, I doubt Jim Smyth himself could've gotten any progress with this idiot, he was insistent on just denying everything and pretending he was out of it
Good energy perhaps, but shockingly shite detective work......
@@dbk78 I doubt any other cop would've gotten more out of him. If you watch the interviews a day prior, before he froze, they were pretty good.
This interrogation is hilarious. Between his shitty "im insane srsly" facade and both detectives just ruthlessly laying into him with their thick Southern drawls, it all really just comes together as an unintentional comedy.
RIP Lauren. Justice has been served in your name. May this asshole stay in prison for all time.
It's hilarious to type a whole paragraph but spelling out "seriously" was just too much. 😂
@@Eva_aloha Part of the joke. Wanted to emphasize how of a tryhard Steven was lmao.
Staayven!
The hair was there. THE HAIR WAS THERE!
@sugarfrosted2005 omg that was hilarious ,the detective was great lol I lmao watching him interact w Staaaven
To wake up from a sleep & find someone standing over you, what nightmare nightmares
There's tons of freaks like this around. Always keep your blinds closed at night. Expect someone could be peeping. She didn't suspect him because she was nice to him. Didn't mean a thing. RIP Lauren.
My mom would want the blinds open during the day but when night fell she wanted us to close them right away. Probably cause of dudes like this
I am the freak that lurks your neighborhood
@@gorefairy1190 oh no
@@gorefairy1190
The same one who exposes themselves to passing trains & smells like stale urine?
My roommates sometimes leave the curtains and blinds open at night and I've gotten into the habit of ALWAYS checking them and closing them tight as soon as the sun sets. I don't want them to think I'm being paranoid or annoying by bringing it up to them but I still make sure they get closed at night.
Honestly, I have no idea how anyone can feel comfortable just leaving them open after sunset. Even if you know there's no one peeping (which you can never be sure of) it freaks me out having them open at night. I can't see anything going on outside but I know if anyone is out there they can see INSIDE just perfectly. Plus seeing the reflections of stuff on the windows plays tricks on my mind and freaks me out even more.
I've been stalked in the past. It changes you. One was a sex offender and I was forced to quit my job and move away to get rid of him. I was told I was overreacting even when this individual followed me home in a cab. I feel for this woman and anybody who has dealt with this situation. Oddly enough I lived in Macon when this happened. Stay safe out there everybody.
im sorry you had to go through with that
Yeah when I got a restraining order against my abusive ex who was stalking me, I was told by some (male) coworkers that I was being immature and that I needed to get over it or let it go 🙄 my ex and I worked together at the time and our supervisors would have to schedule us around each other so they were mad about that but not mad about him stalking me 😡
@@TalkBack17 Wow... I hope you hit 'em with that major reality check. Seriously, who gets mad at a victim when the abuser caused the problems in the first place?
If someone who has never displayed paranoia suddenly begins to feel paranoid or watched... That's their intuition. I'm sorry no one listened to you. It's bs
@@TalkBack17 anything to protect a corporation at the expense of person's safety. I'm so sorry.
I’ve seen this case covered on many channels, even watched the interrogation videos of this creep but this is the first time I’ve heard so much background coverage. Thank you for this deeply researched report.
The other detective cracking up at 1:19:56 and his colleague glaring at him was funnier than it should have been. I cannot even imagine the years of work it takes to build up patience like theirs.
That really was a funny moment. A pleasant break in the mood 😆
@@Dollcollector-jn2gs Same! And I am in awe of how he didn't crack up along with his colleague...
🤣😹 I agree lol the way he looked at his colleague as if ''shh we got to stay professional''
The only problem with your videos is that there aren't more of them! Thanks for the quality content, it's perfect to listen to during my work day.
Same. Glad to know I'm not the only one listening to crime videos while working. 😂
Omg I do the same thing while I'm at work! Lol I put my air pods in and my med passes goes so smooth! Lol
@Shawn 🏴☠️ Stafford same lol
can you imagine her friends that looked for her and realizing later that the murderer was helping them “look”?
That actually happens a lot in these type of cases.
Must haunt them til this day
people are funny ... remember the woman who drowned her 5 kids while she had them lined up watching each other getting killed .... imagine how her friends and family felt about her
Lmao.
Actually when you look at a lot of true crime it's not that uncommon for the perp to do. At this point I'd probably be suspicious of everybody when someone disappears, especially people who appeared a bit "too concerned".
Is this the one where the detective keeps yelling “STAY VEN!”
Yes
@@kirstenlouwes6852 I don’t know
@@KaptainKash100No. 😑
@@KaptainKash100lmfao
He decided to do the good cop/bad cop routine himself. The transition from trying to make him feel safe enough to talk to "You're just a sorry piece of shit who doesn't give a fuck." was great.
Came so out of nowhere that I started cracking up
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I've probably seen just about every doc about this case, interrogation included, but you actually gave new info I've never heard! Love the attention to detail and the quality. Just subscribed! On my way to binge, keep up the great work!
Same here. Ive watched everything on this particular case, including several different analysis videos on the interrogation, and I was very pleased at the new information given in this one that I knew nothing about.
It’s so bizarre and weird! His robotic tone of voice in the interrogation vs his personality during the news interview. For a guy that was going to be a lawyer he didn’t seem to have much common sense or a sense of decency.
Same! I was surprised to find new information in this video, too. This is a really great channel 💓
I didn't know she was president of Federalist Society at their school (and him being VP!).
Same here I didn’t know about the entry he had made about faking crazy if he was ever caught. From other analysts they speculated it could’ve been genuine mental shut down like some form of defensive mechanism or if he was intentionally being like that to throw the detectives off. Not only that but had no idea lauren was already weary about being watched and had taken preventive measure such as the door jammer. Dreading really does amazing work with his content
The fact that this weirdo thinks that suddenly being quiet and soft-spoken after being such a Chatty Kathy earlier in the day WONT be suspicious is hilariously dumb. And this guy was supposed go be a lawyer?
I hope Lauren can rest in peace, and that her family is eventually able to her heal from her loss ❤️
I think at that point he already knew he was a suspect and tried not to give any tells, keeping his tone and demeanor as neutral as possible.
@@heatherchandler1184 He was trying to fake insanity - The weird monotone voice... Just the yes or no answers along with "I don't understand" in response to simple, simple questions... He was trying to act a certain way to avoid being held accountable for his actions. He knew they knew he did it and that he was the only suspect and acting like he was oblivious to what had happened he thought he could claim he was insane at the time of the crime and there fore not responsible for what happened.
I was a foster parent for 10 years and I had a little girl, she was 9 and she acted just like he does when he is talking to the cops. Whenever she was "caught", she instantly went into this "mode". It was really sad and kinda spooky. I worked with her really hard on trying to learn that telling the truth or explaining what happened, is a good thing. She went to therapy, but this was all she did, and the therapist couldnt get thru to her. I had her for a year and by the time she went home she had made so much improvement!! I think about her alot and I hope she was able to grow out of it.
The poor journalist....can you imagine being the one who broke the news to him about the body and then now knowing that he was the killer and she had no idea. It really would make my spine tingle probably for the rest of my life.
She may have RAD (reactive attachment disorder) it is one of the most difficult disorder to provide mental health services to. I pray the little girl was able to bond to others and live a healthy life. I’m a social worker and seen a lot of children like that and many ended up in residential because they became a danger to themselves and others in the home.
I've seen the interview before and thought he was faking it. You've provided solid proof that he was pretending to be insane.
His acting is pathetic and laughable! :D))))
People with any kind of personality disorder don't act like him!
I’ve only seen the JCS video of this case, and I never knew that he threw the torso away and the police found it before the interview. Seeing him absolutely shut down on TV, realizing his life is over, is absolutely wonderful.
Love the content, man! Keep it up! 😁
I’ve heard quite a bit about this case but you’re the only channel that has gone so in depth regarding his online behavior. The research you do is really well done.
I usually listen to stuff like this while trying to fall asleep, and your voice is so good for it. Most true crime channels try to speak in a very dramatic way, but you’re so soft spoken it works ;_; thanks for that.
The fact that he was just able to google how to get in a door with a door stopper and was given a solution x-x like the internet is a beautiful and cursed thingg
This. This was the scariest part for me. She did everything correct, including alerting others, choosing online law prep courses, extra security features, being an incredibly amamzing person, ect. I Googled how he did it. You need a "reciprocating saw" I wonder if that is the same thing he bought to eventually dismember her.
@@geniemememe5936 I gotta say, I highly doubt he used a reciprocating saw to get past the security bar. Those are pretty damn loud, especially when they are in contact with what they are cutting, and she was sleeping in her room which I imagine wasn't far away considering its an apartment complex affordable for students. I'll bet if you google and slueth a bit more, you'll find how he did it, but that most definitely wasn't it.
Security is mostly theater. Locks only keep honest people out.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 absolutely
Is it a dowel stick or something ?
Regardless, I feel like the answer is bend a coat hanger and it’ll get the trick done
That interview of him made it so obvious he did it. It was like a light bulb went off in his head and he realized he was caught. He couldn’t hide his emotions and was freaking out because he knew he was caught. I have never seen someone so obviously guilty during a tv interview
And that interviewer had to have known what she was doing too for how long it went on nd all those specific prying questions. Good on her!
only other one i can think of is chris watts. men terrify me.
Ues that interviewer a real one she definetly figured it out
@@neshayshockey can’t say I blame you after seeing this but for the love of god please don’t judge us normal dudes based off this weirdo and Chris watts😂 Steve Irwin and Mr rogers are also men (the first two that come to mind trying to think of the best men examples)
@@neshayshockeywomen do the same kind of shit not just men
This case gets to me because I notice that I tend to get approached by people who might seem weird to most, and I always try to be polite or kind. Some have developed into really good friends or acquaintances. Now that I live alone, while I do consider myself cautious and safe, I still feel like I'm one Stephen McDaniel away from a similar fate to poor Lauren. May she rest in peace.
I totally feel you on this. I was always one to reach out to the outcasts and try to be a friend. When I was younger I found out that a boy that was bullied that I befriended…-a friend of mine saw him drawing pictures of naked anime girls that looked like they were supposed to be me and a friend of mine.
I cut ties and sadly I keep my distance from everyone now.
It’s sad but true that sometimes outcasts are outcasts for a reason.
It’s just so sad and a dangerous slippery slope, but making someone feel happy about themselves isn’t something I’m willing to risk my own safety over anymore now that I’m older and understand how people can be.
well luckily stephen mcdaniel is a pretty rare induvidual
I would like to encourage you to please get a dog if you are able.
This was my response too. I pride myself on being kind to everyone, befriending those who don’t necessarily make friends easily.
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@lilys7431 sadly I can't, but I've been lucky to find places to live that have decent levels of security (and I try to keep more to myself these days)
I like how the camera woman or man follows him and zooms in on him sitting down!
They knew!!
So sad that all she tried to do was treat this guy with kindness and the respect he never got from anyone else, and he does this to her just cause she doesn’t see him the way he wants her to. Sometimes people avoid people like this for a reason, it’s your instinct, but you can’t always assume outsiders are “stalkers” or violent people.
Thats the real, truly scary part of this case. You can't just assume every weirdo is going to be like this guy. Yet people like this guy DO exist. It seems like in most cases its usually the lack of kindness and respect that drives a person like him to do such horrific things to people. But in his case, it was the exact opposite. She gave him kindness and respect freely and willingly, without expectations, because it was simply in her nature to be that way. She more than likely thought nothing of it, and it was likely no different than the way she interacted with evryone her path crossed thru out the course of a day...gas station clerks..mail man..waiters..the lady cashier in the check out aisle at the grocery store..the person folding their clothes next to her at the laundromat..etc. Who would ever think for an instant that kind of thing would get a person stalked and murdered? Typically it wouldnt..but for some reason it did in this case. It's very strange, and the complete randomness of it is frightening. Its incredibly sad that fate had put this guy in her life, and her kind nature ended up being the very thing that triggered his obsession, and put her in his sights..while in any other case it would have been a lack of kindness and respect.
No, but incels often are. Be vigilant ladies.
@@mattjack3983 I’m like this lady, and it’s funny you mention gas station clerks. I had a nice older guy that would talk to me. He offered to bake me some food from his country, and even though he was being nice, I listen to too much of these stories to play a dramatic scenario of what could be in the food 😂 I’ve seen too many nice people get screwed over, thanks to these stories and any scam type of shows I’ve been watching. It’s best to stay to yourself in public but also remind yourself that world is also filled with some decent people. You just have to stay wise cause some people will take advantage of nice people.
@@katness4224 I agree. People should be kind to each other, but be cautious too. The girl in this tragic story had a bad feeling about this guy. He was a weirdo, and she had told people that he made her uncomfortable. When someone gives you creeper vibes like that, its best to listen to what your gut is telling you. If you have a bad feeling about someone, or a certain situation, you definitely shouldn't ignore it. Even if it turns out that you're wrong, and the person or situation is totally innocent and harmless, you still ALWAYS listen to your gut instincts. Its better to end up being wrong than to end up getting killed.
Yeah, for us women it's more often easier to just assume they have ill intent so we don't end up like this one.
His interrogation is so infuriating, I can totally see why he talked to him like that his whole act was such a farce you can tell he’s faking the whole time. Like the detective said, he’s a sorry-ass boy.
He has such a punchable face, even more so with that facade he put on, acting so disconnected
super refreshing to see that detective lay into him that whole time 👏🏻
He’s acting so weird. Like he’s speaking with no tone or emotion? Like that’s clearly not normal and is something a freak would do. But he’s too much of a freak to notice that he’s not like other humans.
I don't even know how the detectives kept it together while interrogating this monster. My blood was boiling the whole time he was lying and answering like the idiot he is - "yes", "no", I don't remember" etc....
@@sheisaMachine He's doing it on purpose. The video even showed him stating online he would act weird/with no memory so he gets institutionalised rather than imprisoned. But he's a moron so he thinks talking like this is all he needs to do.
Learning about this case made me really angry.
As someone who's struggled with making friends due to a fear of talking to people (at least casually, professionally I do fine), I absolutely hate how people like this asshole only serve to make it tougher for people who are just shy and/or awkward, since people need to be on guard for the off-chance they run into someone like him.
I'm really sorry that Lauren lost her life because of this freak.
I am the same. On a personal level totally shy, awkward and mostly silent but at work totally normal and fine. Really dont understand why it is the way it is. Would love to be the same level in both situations🤷♀️
@@ginexkasachstan I think a major part of the problem for me is that I'm just really afraid to ask people if they wanted to have a casual hangout or something like that, largely due to a fear of being told "No" and a feeling of embarrassment that comes with it. It happened all the time with people I tried to befriend as a kid, so nowadays I guess I'm just afraid to even bother trying to ask. Yet at work I'm able to join conversations and make small talk about non-work related subjects just fine. It really is tough to describe why this is the case.
Yes sadly thats true of everything isnt it? The few bad apples ruin everything for the rest.
I normally find the odd people, and the people who are quiet to be the easiest for me to personally approach, because I struggle with anxiety myself and usually avoid the loud, over talkative and over embellishing people. I normally find that I personally have a lot more in common with the quiet people, they usually think a lot, and when they do open up, they make pretty good conversation.
Gotta second this
I've seen so much coverage on this case but I've never seen it covered so well. Thank you for shining a light on Lauren more than others who really focus more on Steven.
Lauren gets murdered for being friendly and polite with her male neighbor and trying to help him be more social. Bianca Devins gets murdered for not wanting to be in a relationship with the older friend obsessed with her. Caroline Nosal says no when her coworker asks her out and gets fatally shot. Same with Janese Talton-Jackson who was shot by a man at a bar. And Miya Marcano. There's just no way to win. And simultaneously, we're called bitches, uptight, mean, rude when we don't engage with men and are told "He's a nice guy, give him a chance"
Dont be auch a bitch jeeez
a kid was thrown in Mall of America bc some dude was getting rejected by women you die if you ignore you die if you’re nice men are just evil
As a man I must say that there are definitely plenty of creeps out there and murderers are way beyond that definition but grouping all men with this pile of human trash is extremely absurd. I’m not bragging but my wife is extremely attractive and since the day we started dating guys always stare at her and try to pretend they’re not. When I’m not there she gets ogled way more and hit on constantly. I’m not a jealous person and my wife ignores it for the most part and just raises her hand with her wedding ring and says sorry. That being said, she says there have only been a few times she’s felt really uncomfortable as opposed to just annoyed in her entire life. Most men don’t have twisted intentions and only a ridiculously small percentage of men do what this scumbag did. They should all be tied down and let any family or friends of the victim do whatever they want for as long as they want in my opinion. Same for child molesters. Although I think it’s a bit much to say all men are like this. Just my opinion. Have a nice day and have a wonderful life😊
@@snuglife4595 as a lady, I agree with you. There's some absolute creeps out there but I've met men who can be persistent and still respectful and men who don't take no for an answer and keep a tirade going on how women suck. It definitely goes both ways for either side of the coin, women can be absolutely obsessive creeps too
You have to be proactive
Dreading,
You’ve successfully managed to literally make me stop watching all other true crime TH-camrs and only watch your videos. Completely unintentionally I’ve been doing this. Your channel is what I go to nowadays that I can trust to get accurate information.
Thank you for shedding light on all these cases!
you’re definitely missing out on some great youtubers! but i get it, this channel is amazing every time
Damn. Those two detectives would have cracked me in the first 10mins. That pissed-off-southern-dad drawl would have me sweating up a storm and stammering all over myself.
Love love love your content. Please keep uploading
A little past the 2 hr mark, when pink shirt detective got up and walked over to sit next to Steven,he looked like he was fixing to take off his belt! I got scared lol
It's interesting to see the moment the killer learns the police have found the body and to watch him process the fact that it is most likely going to lead to his arrest. You could almost see the soul leave his body
What soul?
“did you take the cookie, Stephen?” has to be the cutest metaphor ever used in a murder investigation.
southern style!
Lmao can u not.. “cute”
He took her cookie though and all he left from her were crumbs 😔
@@AK-cx5ix 🤨📸
@@AK-cx5ix dunno whether to laugh or be weirded out lmao
This goes to show the power of intuition. If something feels wrong, it most likely is. It's sad because she did everything right by taking extra security measures.
But he had a copy of her key! She didn't take all precautions. She should have had a chain lock and a new lock with new key
@@jeanbeans7926 idk maybe she didn’t know someone had a key and thought someone broke in by picking the lock. It’s sad she had to take extra security measures to begin with but that’s the world today.
I was stunned that she was sleeping with the blinds cracked open, though. That's how he figured out she was using the door jam and was able to figure out how to break in. Which he would have still probably figured out, but it makes you wonder. This breaks my heart.
@@jeanbeans7926that too but not her fault. He probably would’ve did it again. So sad this happened to her n she was nothing but extremely nice to him.😢
As someone who had to move cities because of a neighbor, I emplore you all: trust your gut! If you feel like you're being watched you most likely are! Keep yourself safe!
*"QUIT LYIN' STEVEN!"*
*"STEVEN."*
*"She was SCREAMING."*
Very unintentionally funny. We know you did it, Steven. 😂😂
No other channel has covered Lauren or Steven's backgrounds, but you. Huge props for that.
Indeed 👍🏾
I honestly love that you include the whole real news clips. It helps paint the picture of perpetrator a lot better.
law student doesn’t ask for a lawyer
Proof the edumacatiomal. System is 100% broken
he is supposed to be "not sane" and, I guess, in his opinion, not asking added to his "mental illness" defence but he doesn't realise that he's the idiot here.
1st rule of dealing with cops is shutting the hell up. This dude would've been a horrible lawyer.
Insane people dont ask for lawyers...had to continue his act.
He thought he was the smartest one in the room.
Thanks!
There is something very intense about those detectives with their southern drawl questioning him. They remind me of Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson in True Detective. (That show scared the heck outta me!)
I love how they pull their chair right next to him, call him buddy.
They aren't buying his B.S. one bit.
His act is ridiculous, he's answering every question, just slowly. I hope his cellmates beat the hell out of him, daily.
oh now steven is fighting his conviction and trying to get out of all of it. pig
That show is one of my favorites, it touches on so much, without saying things directly- I don't think this man will be getting loose, anytime soon
i’ve seen people (not necessarily in this comment section) talk about how Lauren should’ve known better/stopped being nice etc, and this point of view always frustrates me. i wonder how many more cases in which a woman gets violently murdered by a man that the woman will still get blamed. Lauren was never at fault, whether she was nice or mean. i hope that in the future, a lot more sons will be raised to believe that just because a girl is nice to you- doesn’t mean she is leading you on or giving you a chance.
like i said, i haven’t seen any comments like that in this section, but i’ve seen it before- albeit probably by incels. thank you for portraying the case in it’s entirety and painting Lauren in the right picture, and not giving excuses for why she lost her life. you’ve been my new favorite channel for awhile now! keep up the good work
It's doubly frustrating when you know that ad a woman it's often the better option to be nice at first because too many people have experienced violence from just turning someone down, especially without sugarcoating it. These weirdos think they're entitled to a person and then freak out, unfortunately sometimes to this horrifying degree. It's awful.
nobody is or was saying that, you just like hearing yourself being the justice warrior, leave it out love. lmao
@@shamkay832 clearly you’re on the better place on the internet than i, weird to be picking a fight about it. many people have blamed her for “leading him on.” thanks for replying, “love”
@@shamkay832 Weird how you’re suddenly the comment section police and if someone says something like “It is weird that anyone on earth thinks it’s okay to blame a woman for her death” your reaction is to call someone an SJW. Either you’ve never seen an incel or you are one lol
@@softestshade7813 ok sorry to you both bye
“Look at me, son!” I bet the first detective wished that he wouldn’t have said that, because from that moment on, Stephen was laser focussed into looking in the detective’s eyes. Ha, ha. I was a little worried when he kept leaning back that he would snap that chair in half. Excellent job you did on this video, excellent sound and research. Good job. Love this channel!
Surprised they dont have more subscribers, great channel
He has guns, knives, and swords, so he can protect himself no matter what century hes attacked in.
I love how the one detective sits in dumbfounded silence when he admitted he wears the same underwear over and over without cleaning it. It's almost like he had a moment where he questioned whether he picked the right profession. Both of these detectives have the patience of Job to put up with this guy's act.
… truly… i wanted nothing more than for them to just punch him square in the face…. “Ohhhh… ur alert now!!.. so, let’s continue”…
Job? I am job.
I lost it when the detective said “don’t you watch CSI?!” At 1:20 the delivery of that line was just really amusing
reminds me of the time my manager asked me if I believed in ghosts. I said no. Then he said, "haven't you seen ghost busters?" aahhahaha
I appreciate so much that you’re covering this case. It happened not even a quarter mile down the street from my house when i was in high school. I was walking the dog with my best friend and we wondered at the crowd of the cops and reporters around the apartment complex; that was just before they found some of her in the garbage. Even now hearing her name makes my heart strain. She just seemed so good and lovely, and her death was one of the worst I can imagine. Thank you for talking about her. May her memory live on forever, and may she rest in peace.
Rewatching this interrogation and it’s so interesting how he tries to portray insanity. Even with the monotony and apathy in his voice he’s still strategic and logical with what he remembers and the questions he chooses to actually answer vs “I don’t know”. Very telling
Watching the interrogation is unsettling. He is a f*ing weirdo. He wouldn't shut up when he was talking to the camera. How long was that interview!? It went on and on. He wanted everyone to think they were so close and part of the same friend group, constantly saying "we". He sure had a lot of information about her and her daily movements for a neighbor that hadn't seen her in 3 weeks.
P.S. I hope that rediculous appeal is reason enough to deny him parole for the rest of his life.
The interview with the reporter was like an interrogation too. Can you imagine if he was innocent and her really close friend and was being asked question after question about every little possible thing by thiem. Listen again, it's so incredibly annoying how she asks question after question and he gives long detailed answers. It's horrific to listen to.
Whaah Stayven Whaah? That's harrible Stayven!
Thank you I thought I was the only one who was disturbed by this "WE" shit
They spent nearly 2 hours talking to this bastard.
He is just so creepy. I can’t imagine her fear when he was hurting her. He’s so horrible. You described Stephan as tidy and well organized but his apartment was not at all.
And the bloody hacksaw in the broom closet and torso in his garbage " organized" lol 😂
Having been an awkward type of guy like him before in my life I have never ever thought to be as disgustingly possessive towards another person like that.
Instead I treasure the people like Lauren in my life who showed me kindness and helped me out of my shell.... LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN DOES. Thankfully I'm doing great these days.
Bro was probably doomed from the start. Was a freak who blamed everyone around him. And watched CP. not your typical weirdo who’s awkward.
Hey how’s life right now?
This video is posted on many channels, but this is the only channel that told about the plan he shared about how he would act if interrogated. Great job!!!
Yea n tryna make ppl think he blacked out n lost his mind or doesn’t remember sh*t.🙄
@@KewanaNeddI don’t understand
@@0v3rgr0wnwhat
What makes me so angry and sad about this case is how preventable it really was. After the master key was stolen, the property manager should have immediately changed all locks on the premises and revoked any access to that key. A simple camera also would have alerted Lauren of that presence she felt. Her gut and intuition were so spot on. She could have stayed with a friend or family member until her lease was up. All could of, would of, should of at this point. 😔 RIP Lauren, you really did not deserve this.
I love the beginning introduction. I don’t know how you keep these videos coming out of this great quality