Which Martial Arts Compliments Muay Thai the Best? | Muay Thai Tier List
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- Have you considered cross-training? We've curated a list ranking martial arts according to their effectiveness as complements to Muay Thai. Will cross-training enhance your Muay Thai skills, or is focusing solely on Muay Thai the better option?
0:00 Intro
0:29 Rank Explanation
1:53 Shotokan Karate
3:26 Kyokushin Karate
4:36 Brazillian Jiu Jitsu
5:27 K1 Kickboxing
7:58 Aikido
8:52 Tai Chi
9:41 Savate
10:41 Sanda (Sanshou)
12:36 Lethwei
13:17 Wing Chun
15:58 Judo
17:26 Freestyle Wrestling
19:10 Greco-Roman Wrestling
20:01 Boxing (Western Boxing)
22:24 Capoeira
23:03 Tang Soo Do
24:08 Tae Kwon Do
25:25 Wushu
26:45 Kung Fu
27:46 Sumo
29:20 Sambo
30:13 Outro
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Taekwondo+Muay Thai= Edson Barboza
I love it
Also Tony Jaa.
could just learn to be more traditional like muay boran instead of taekwondo. Was quite acrobatic compared to the modern day muay thai sport.
Muay Thai are ready have Muay Boran itself
Muay Thai + Boxing + TKD + BJJ
= Anderson Silver
Kyokushine karate+ Muay Thai+ boxing = complete striking
Nice I do Okinawan kenpo Judo boxing and weights
Kyokushin Karate + Muay Thai + Boxing = Dutch Kickboxing
@@tarancaparoso6352 not really it doesn't have the elbows from muaythai and dynamic kicks from kyokushine
@@AloneManwithstrangethings Dutch kickboxing not so much, but it's definitely seen in Japanese Kickboxing.
@@AloneManwithstrangethings Dutch kickboxing started with Kyokushin
Muay thai + Judo
Muay thai strike
Muay thai clinch
When apply judo .. it becomes deadly combiniation if one vs on fight.
Also sambo and Catch werstling
This! For people who want to learn to defend themselves Muay Thai + Judo is the best combination.
@@praxseb4317 one vs one in a cold place like russia peoplwewear jackets MT and Judo will do great.
If for free cage fight in which fighters wear only shorts MT and catch wrestling is great if the MT fighter is more aggresive and likes to be on top position.
As far as Wing Chun (experiences may vary):
On average, it could take you close to a year to begin learning Chi Sao depending on the lineage. Although, in the first 3-4 months, you learn Pak Sao, Pak Dar, and Lop Sao. If you stay in for an additional 3-4 months, you'll learn Dan Chi Sao (single sticky hand), Luk Sao (rolling hands) which is similar to pummeling, and Jip Sao Jow Sao (running/catching hands) which not only simulate pummeling but also simulates hand fighting.
My apologies for spelling or translation mistakes to the experts in the comment section.
Kyokushin at C tier. That's interesting. It's the norm in the Netherlands and the roots of Dutch kickboxing. I think we do pretty well in the kickboxing/muay thai realm.
I dont agree with it either
Having trained in both Kyokushin and MT, I would say it probably deserves to be a tier higher, but not more than that. IMO, the biggest benefit of the style - the conditioning - is also its biggest weaknesses. In competitive settings you are rewarded for absorbing blows, staying in the pocket, and just teeing off on your opponent with extended body combos. This greatly devalues footwork and head movement, which I think are more essential to being a well-rounded fighter (and why Boxing is rightfully S tier). Obviously there are many pro fighters with a background in Kyokushin, as it is easily one of the most "legit" styles, but for the average person I feel that it encourages bad habits.
@@catspaw Being a black belt in Kyokushin and having done Muay Thai as well, i know about the bad habits. The head movement isn’t what it should be if you don’t train Shinken shobu (sparring with punches to the head), but the condition together with the kicks in Kyokushin is it’s strong suit. I like Muay Thai for it’s sweeps and clinch work, but I prefer the kicks/conditioning in Kyokushin. It’s def better to be allround and train as many styles as you can though! Osu
For muay thai + sanda would be perfect for mma.
Sanda rules look so fun to compete with
Having crosstrained in savate: I think it’s the single best other striking art to cross train in. Big emphasis on footwork, a plethora of kicks not used in muay thai, different approach to combinations due to ruleset and a full English boxing curriculum. Really uplifts your striking game.
im not a savateur myself but i genuinely cant accept savate being placed in the same tier as aikido and tai chi
at the VEEERY least C tier would be reasonable but i think it should be on B tier
@@Kettvnen i practice savate and muay thai, savate improve better my muay than muay improve my savate. Savate footwork is very effective to improve your leg (no comparaison just facts)
If your street fighting than savage plus muay thai kicks ass, you never know what your gonna get kicked with, shin or foot covered with shoe or boot. Allows you to really up your low kick and mid kick game.
@@sebastienenee40 exactly! why did he rate it so low on the list i dont get it
@@Kettvnen I don't know why, I think he's never practised savateand surely he doesn't know the joy of taking a ‘pointu’ to the liver. The shoe changes the way you fight.. Perhaps he judges the assault type of combat or the way he dresses : ). (It's true that this doesn't help the sport) However, we've seen a lot of Savate champions become kickboxing or muay thai champions. Like Penacchio's legendary fight against Ramon Daekers.
I think if Muay Thai allowed judo throws it would be the undeniable best base for mma and best martial art for the street and self defence
Yeah the clinching in muay thai would transition so well into judo 😊.
Perfect combo!
Muay Thai had throws originally, until Japanese fighters came to Thailand and started using Judo throws against the Thais.
Muay Thai and Judo are such an awesome pair though. Two asian fighting arts that compliment each other phenomenally, similar to how western boxing/cacc wrestling pair so well together.
Judo and Muay Thai's upright stance compliment each other whereas the constant level changes of wrestling and boxing go together.
Iñ europe some thai boxing fights have judo throws
Muay thai originally had throws etc
I find it interesting how you ranked Sambo & Sanda differently. They both train in connecting your striking into your grappling-a good base to have for mma in this case.
They both have sub disciplines within their discipline for grappling (combat sambo and shuia jiao respectively).
Sambo seems to have more of an aggressive and brawler type of fighting, whereas Sanda tends to focus a little more on technically sharper combinations.
Seems to be the same outcome, hence why I find it interesting you placed them both in the different tiers.
I like the tier list overall.
Speaking as someone who did judo and jumped into muay thai your clinch is going to be better than most you just have to get used to the grip differences which only takes a couple days.
Muay thai + judo is also a terrifying combination because you basically get the ability to put the fight where you want it. Your opponent's a better striker? Ground them. They're a better grappler? Keep them in striking distance? They're better at both? Clinch them and keep them there because you can offbalance them whenever they try anything and just abuse them with knees and elbows.
Knees and elbows also make the throws easier to land in an mma setting too. It basically turns both into a complete martial art.
Hi everyone - quick note that the template used was an existing premade template. I wasn’t sure how this format of video would do and went with a template that had a reasonable mix of martial arts.
Muay thai + sambo+Greco-Roman+Boxing +taekwondo =apex predator
Just train mma tf
@faithalone5081 It's better to train them separately rather than going to a mma gym because most of the mma gyms mostly focus on bjj and and amateur mma fighters have shit striking and you get a overall better grappling experience in Sambo and the grind of a Greco-Roman wrestler is even greater than folkstyle or freestyle wrestler and it's a totally different experience trust me.
@@nishantsingh9495 sambo is mma with a gi(mma doesnt have a gi)
Why would you train mma with a gi if their is no gi, that is stupid.
Greco roman wrestling is garbage for mma zero leg attacks zero control.
Best mma fighters with greco roman
Chael
Magomed ank
Jon jones
Randy couture
All abandon their base and shoot double legs because its a high percentage takedown🤣🤣🤣
Taekwondo? Foot kicks..... they are fun and even i use some traditional martial arts kicks while sparring but their effectiveness is jack. You can learn that off the internet no need to take taekwondo classes
Boxing is fine to crosstrain but you shouldnt hyperfocus on it
Muay thai is okay but if your going true traditional muay thai with a heavy rear leg your getting taken down
Lets saying your in highschool or some shit. My best advice for training in mma is taking mma classes, crosstrain folkstyle in high school because some schools offer it for free and if their are any free programs for martial arts take up the offer but they shouldnt take tjme off training mma because they should be number 1 priority.
Also folkstyle best base, besides pinning combos their is so much good shit that you can transfer to mma like overall control:wrist rides diffrrent forms of wrist control takedowns from all angles(except suplexes thats literally it)
Greco Roman wrestling is already included in muay Thai clinch
@@faithalone5081I used to train in Russia and sambo is big over there and Greco Roman is overall much better in Eastern Europe and the US sucks in Greco Roman ,have you ever heard of Alexander Karelin and the Taekwondo in Russia much better than Taekwondo in the west and do you even know about old school taekwondo I knew my shit but I don't fight anymore and sambo fighters in mma finish the fight really quick and fighting in a Muay Thai tournament is a better experience than mma
Kyokushin: B conditioning
Kickboxing: A preparation, cardio and boxing-game
Sanda: A (if a good school) complementary training throws and takedowns
Letwei: S complementary training striking
TKD: B very technical kicks
Wing chun/wushu/arnis/FMA: B stoping strikes, hand and arm blocks, body mechanics
As for me, muay thai encompasses most of the striking techniques but not so much on grappling. My combination would be Muay Thai, Judo or wrestling for grappling from clinch, Sanda (its sweeping techniques are top notch), and BJJ (to lock and put your opponent into submissions).
Your probably not going to believe I say this but Wing Chun goes very well - I know because I've done both. They both have clinches, elbows, knees, straight line attacks and trapping.
Jeff chan from mmashredded uses the long guard in muay Thai with technique similar to wing chun and he is very successful with it
In MMA, for a while now, the formula has been kickboxing/boxing with wrestling for takedown defense. Keep it standing with takedown defense and make sure you are the better striker.
A one missed out is Kudo, the physicality of it will help out with muay thai trained with some guys who train kudo and muay thai and they are deadly.
ASHIHARA KARATE ! Thank me later !
i reeally dont agree with kickboxing, sanda, letwei, kyo karate and savate. they all should come much closer to boxing
In my gym I’m lucky enough to have multiple styles offered to me for a 1 price , and I’ve explored mixing stuff with my main style Muay Thai , I for sure find that capoeira helps my Muay Thai a lot , love to share some examples , wile I haven’t trained capoeira much , for the little I do know it’s An amazing integration
I'm currently a martial art called Okichitaw. It's specialized in combat techniques from an Indigenous tribe in Canada. If it was in the video, where would you rank it?
Tbh it all depends where you want to compete, if you want to enter ONE Championship (Muay Thai category) you can demolish most of the competition if you crosstrain with Boxing for better combinations, but for body conditioning & precise striking Kyuoshin Karate can be amazing.
For MMA even if you learn Muay Thai and Wrestling the trainer can easily accommodate you with your training.
On a purist level of just using striking as a method, all striking styles would benefit from crosstraining with each other! I would say the same thing for grappling arts as well.
It is only when you would want to combine grappling with striking, that sticking to a cultural base would be more appropriate.
A disagree in sanda part, but you need to admit they would be great together in a street fight
Me, having no experience in any domain, but as a keen observer of these forms online recently, I believe for a beginner- Muay Thai for offence if life is at threat and Jiu Jitsu in normal self defense scenario, the blend of these two would be enough to survive in a real world......
What if I do them all
Ever hear the phrase "Jack of all trades, master of none"?
It means your rich.
@@grimmsetinah, just look at sensei seth, u can try several different styles and find ways to make them useful depending on the environment and circumstances, hell, I've seen people like Qi la la use wing chun in muay Thai rules against muay Thai practitioners
@@gnos1s171 Lol Sensei Seth is a good example of Too many cooks spoil the Broth. Qi la la used muaythai and BJJ to defeat his opponents, not Wing Chun. Also his opponents were amateur class. Once he stepped up into professional level competition, he was destroyed by muaythai fighter.
@@sportmuaythaiv1045 nah, seth is a very competent martial artist, he even did really well in the ultimate self-defense championship, qi la la regularly uses wingchun trapping and hand fighting in his matches, if u haven't noticed him using trapping, one of his main methods of finding angles to land strikes u haven't paid attention enough, he even admits to using wing chun, xinyi Liuhe, and tong bei quan for this exact purpose, I think I'll actually trust his own words about the fighting strategies he uses when I can see him doing it, and he talks about using over some random guy on a youtube comment section (you) that isn't qi la la, and why should I? Cope 🙃
...shotokan and kyokushin aren't the only 2 styles of karate...🤨
In fact a lot of other styles of karate like goju ryu and uechi ryu have some pretty useful takedowns, sweeps and trips u can use in the clinch..
100% correct - there’s several forms of karate. I decided to go with Shotokan as I was less familiar with and had less exposure to Gōjū-ryū.
@@CombatCultureUSA fair enough
Savate brings all the concepts that Muay Thai lack in basis to be complete/ more competitive: footwork + distance control + kick/ punch or punch kick variety of combos + creation of angles while striking / changinng distance + use of kicks to jab/stop opponents/ low opponent's guard/ feint / provoke a reaction. And that's for day 1-5 of Savate 👐. Way too underrated
imo the only useful ones are boxing and Greco-Roman if you are purely staying in the art of muay thai
And judo for the trips and foot sweeps.
I've been doing Okinawan karate now for 46 years, along with 12 years of Kenpo Karate and 20 years of Eskrima. In the new year I started doing Muay Thai, and I found that all of that prior martial arts experience has been more of a hindrance than a help, due to the fact that it's put a certain amount of muscle memory into my body that is not helpful at all and does not translate well into Muay thai. I would have been better to have not done anything then what I've done so far in Prior martial arts experience
Nice I do Okinawan kenpo karate and it has clinch’s and takedowns and also I know grappling cuz of Judo and Krav Maga but also my secondary is boxing and I also do weights and a lot of cardio
Muay Thai + Combat sambo + Taekundo= complete fighter.
Muay Thai consist good boxing, knee, elbow, punch 8limbs
Combat sambo consists Grappling both with legs n hands , Takedown n wrestling also there.
Taekwondo consists spinning kicks long range kicks effective n very fast high kicks .
Muay Thai is a more well rounded type of striking sport.
Combat Sambo is primarily a grappling style that involves some striking as well.
Tae Kwon Do is a very specialized striking sport, very limited outside of its field.
I feel like a lot of people don’t know this but karate especially old school like Kenpo and Kyokushin go with musy Thai
But shototkan is a hard style 70 hard and 30 soft thats still hard?
Which dance compliments muay thai the most?
Salsa dancing ofcourse....hahahaha 😂
muy caliente 💃🔥
Salsa is good. Many boxers could dance too
@@iryairya2008 . It's a requirement for cuban boxers!
I combine kickboxing with judo. Very effective!
In my City only have Jiu Jitsu, Boxing, Muay Thai Gym I wanted make Sambo but we don't have Sambo Gym in my city.
How about a panantukan?
The only techniques that would combine with muay tai would be grappling techniques, other than that real muay tai is great for striking.
Karate + Muay Thai = Momotaro
muay thai + judo or catch wrestling .
Yaw Yan also is better compliment for Muay Thai
Muay Thai base + boxing + greco wrestling, you dont need more
I think MMA + KENDO + FANCING is the best.
Muay Thai + boxing = Sagat Petchyindee
Mauy Thai + Shuai Jiao = Unstoppable.
Why sambo better then Sanda? Sambo moves are illegal as well.
Just boxing for me.
add muay chaiya in list
Wrestling.
You have no idea what you are talking about in practice don't you? You have never done Sambo in your life but you have heard is though, no worries most people are like you.
Sambo is in a lot of ways Judo + Wrestling. So why would a Thai Kickboxer that fights only in kick boxing shorts try to find a Sambo gym unless they really like Judo? No reason. It's Wrestling, Wrestling is the best thing a Thai Kickboxer can do to fill in his gaps as a martial artist (For MMA), if he is just going to compete in Thai Kickboxing forever though he should learn: Boxing, granted.
Sambo: you pull on clothes.
Judo: you pull on clothes.
Wrestling: you can't pull on clothes. Sambo has take downs of wrestling but why divide your focus on pulling on clothes if you are not going to fight on rulesets that allow it. For self-defense? Because you like Judo? Thats great but that won't compliment your Muay Thai vs Muay Thai match up.
Muay Thai + BJJ + Wrestling
This isn't MMA. Mauy Thai is a Standing sport how is BJJ going to help in anyway? Use your brain man
Sambo!!!!!
first
wheres boxing?
Muaythai means Thai boxing so I guess probably that’s why it’s not in there and if you find the right trainer you’ll get boxing from that like sagat weeraphol samart etc
It’s under Western Boxing 🥊
In the S tier LOL
i swear people come to comment without actually watching the video
@@locke8412 sorry
Great, another one who knows nothing about Tai chi in the martial context.
Muay thai = ben askren
Bjj
Good strike mt
Good ground bjj
Completed
This isn't MMA. Mauy Thai is a Standing sport how is BJJ going to help in anyway? Use your brain man
This list doesn't make sense based on the criteria you're using. "Will cross training x martial art level up your Muay Thai?" You level up your Muay Thai by training Muay Thai. There are plenty of reasons to cross train martial arts, but you don't do so without knowing that you're making a sacrifice
He has a point that many but not all MT gyms still don't teach the best boxing and training good boxing does help you level up in MT.
@@KeyserSoze23To a degree but it still won't be time as well spent as working on your MT if MT is your main goal
ok, you are completely wrong about taijiquan, sanda, and "kung fu" (better term would be minjian / folk wushu, as opposed to yundong / sport wushu) overall, but that's not surprising, most people don't really get traditional martial arts, and that includes people that actually train them too
traditional martial arts are not collections of techniques, and they're not martial systems / sports
traditional martial arts are predominantly forms of training and in some cases conditioning of the body
historically, there were basic excercises, then there were techniques, then these were gathered up into forms (including forms performed with partners), there were also some principles and concepts expressed in those techniques and forms, and then people simply fought, there was no sparring, and people were of course fighting mostly with weapons
nowadays, there are basic excercises, techniques, forms, better teachers also teach about the principles and concepts, and in a few places there was also sparring added
the point is, however, that the sparring is not really a part of the traditional curriculum, and the rulesets for it would be dependent on what principles and concepts a given martial art focuses on, and it in general would be resembling either kickboxing or often mma with some restrictions, so on one hand sparring is just sparring, no matter the sport or the art, and anything unique aspect of sparring in any said sport or art would not really be of much use in any other sport's or art's sparring ruleset
the right question you should ask is about training methods and principles/concepts of traditional chinese martial arts
as for the training methods themselves, for example in hung gar, there's the practice of standing in the horse stance, and the practice of switching between stances (horse stance -> bow and arrow stance -> empty stance -> dragon/unicorn stance) and these are extremely good excercises for the legs
you muay thai guys of coruse love kicking, so obviously these excercises would be beneficial for you
are these excercises so unique, and yield so very special results that can't be replicated by any type of layman's leg excercises? I don't think so, these are just an isometric and a strength training, but they would add some variety to the whole training process, and that's always a boon
as for some things adding up some principles as well:
you praised wing chun's sticky hands
sticky hands is a practice that is not exclusive to wing chun, many southern styles have sticky hands, and they all differ from each other slightly as well
you dismissed taijiquan completely, as a gymnastics for grandpas - it so happens, that the (mostly) northern styles equivalent of sticky hands is pushing hands, these two are a rather different types of excercise, with tuishou being much more complex and having a different goals to it, but both develop hands proprioception, and teach looking for gaps in the opponent's guard
and tuishou (pushing hands) is very important in tajiquan, as taijiquan is a predominantly grappling martial art and its tuishou expresses that, so it would be useful for someone practicing takedowns, throws and such
all martial arts that employ tuishou have their own variants of it too, just as it is with sticky hands
would its principles be useful in muay thai? probably, you people do fight in clinch after all
all that said, good tcma schools are rare, and good luck finding a school where taijiquan is taugh in a combative way, with properly taught tuishou to boot, I often have seen taijiquan guys doing shoddy tuishou, resembling a poor man's wrestling
I am biased, of course, but best tuishou can be found in yiquan, in Yao Zongxun's lineage
yiquan is exclusively a striking martial art, and its tuishou of course expresses that, so it is different than that of taiji, but it would be useful for muay thai as well
problem is, that yiquan is extremely rare martial art, and add to that looking for the specific lineage, all I can say is good luck
so, would traditional chinese martial arts have any elements that are useful for muay thai? yeah, some of them would, especially, that there's myriad of them and they're often very different from one another
but also an average muay thai enthusiast wouldn't really need them much, if you stumble upon a decent tcma school, take a gander, but there's no point for you to specifically look for any such school if you already train muay thai
and of course, there's also the matter of sanda
sanda is a completely modern sport, a ruleset, not a martial art
it is indeed a collection of techniques and a fighting system built around a ruleset
and as such it did not retain any traditional chinese martial art characteristics, and very few concepts, as it is not a training method or a body conditioning method at all, if you go to the US sanda gym, you'll see just a regular fighting sports gym in which people do a regular fighting sports excercises
and even if by chance any of them would be doing a horse stance, for example, due to personal interest for example, I'd rather go to tcma school for that, as there are nuances even in a simple thing like a horse stance
yikes
@@theperson8275 Bro really sat down and wrote all this.
You people have a problem with correcting misinformation?
@@KilicArslanBahadur You have too much free time. Great job though.
You're entitle to your opinion, and so should I. Here you're diuscussing "Martial Arts that Compliment muaythai:. The art should broaden the fighting capability of muaythai. As a stand up strriking art, it's quite worthless to spend extra time and effort to train another striking art. It's redundant. First important criteria to consider is it really effective? Is it perpetually evolving thru professional level competitions? Then is it taught by qualified instructor, with real fight experience at professional level? Better if the teacher has groomed successful protege. Equally important is if the training camp is easily accessible. For me, BJJ is supreme in complimenting muaythai, while Wing Chun is to be avoided.
Sanda striking has nothing to do with chinese martial arts, they literally derived there striking techniques from muay thai, boxing and taekwondo, according to the founder of sanda.
Great idea for a video.
For self defence I think the best is judo, maybe the stance would be hard but you could throw someone from the clinch, both judo and muay thai clinch.
For mma it probably is bjj and for muay thai itself its boxing, but many fighters have also used taekwondo.
I feel Judo goes better with karate bjj goes with Muay Thai and wrestling goes with boxing
@@thunderkatz4219 All of that makes sense beside Judo and Karate. The hybrid sport Kudo which mixing them both together as well as other martial arts is amazing, but I don't see how they compliment each other otherwise.