Why WoW Can't Compete with Riot's MMORPG
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I used to work for Riot and it is really because of the fans that the game's lore exist today. What happened was we used to receive tons and tons of emails asking what is the story behind this champion and that champion and so on, so the team started to write stuff so that we can reply to those emails and keep the fans the players interested. That's basically how it started and snowballed to such a vast lore
Can't shoutout Necrit enough. This guy has been doing free PR for riot's lore for years
Can I ask what it was like to work for RIot?
cool bruh
but because you read and responded to those emails we have that lore not like many other companies who never respond to the fans and who know if they even look at them
If that is true or not it would be more fun to me to create a new character with lore then one without
Riot deciding to make Arcane inevitably helped more people discover and make people interested in their upcoming mmo. Who ever makes most of the decision in riot is a genius.
Blizz could have been just as successful, but that's not gonna happen when the leaders are a bunch of clowns and the devs are mediocre.
Well the guy "greg street" worked on really cool projects before(WOW, age of empire), and he's working for RIOT now might be the genius you're talking about.
@@schmidth You can either have a good product (movie/game) or an agenda forced down your throat. Many examples proved it to be the case in 100% of the cases. And current Blizzard nothing more than a bunch of rainbow clowns who identify themselfes as attack helicopters etc. There is no hope for that company anymore, it nosedived so much already that no one can save that "plane", even just a hard crash would be a miracle at this point but most likely an honorless death and no one gonna care.
Riot stays away from any agenda and rainbow bullshit. They doing the right thing, creating a fantasy world for us to escape in from reality. Whats the point of a fantasy game if it is full of the same real life issues and agendas most people hate in video games and movies and those who "care" about that dont play those games and dont watch those movies in the first place.
Whoever is making those business decisions at Riot is absolutely giga brain. Most companies are just looking at how to improve the next quarter, or maaybe the next year. Riot is thinking about how they grow the brand and the company 2-4 years in the future. Huge investments for huge payoff.
I doubt it was that calculated, it's just Riot expanding into as many markets as possible. Arcane was so big they hired extra staff specifically to work on expanding their cinematic universe. At the 10-year anniversary for League they announced like 5 upcoming games, all of different genres. They've gotten so massive that they seemed to just be trying out whatever they want to try,, and it's working because they're not half-assing any of it. Where some game companies would just dish out a dozen crappy games and hope they work off name alone, between Valorant, Arcane, Ruined King, and the upcoming MMO Riot is clearly giving everything required to each individual project.
is incredible how such a small indie company can make such high quality music props for them
Small indie company?
@@thetrolluminati9714 Small indie company
@@elbergalarga3546 You're one of them silly folks on on the internet.
@@davidmoak1219 it's a lol meme
i know right? it aways amazes me how much lore riot put in their game, even releasing a netflix series and a mmo and all of that while their main game stills in Alpha
Honestly Asmon should chain watch all of Riot's cinematics. Honestly seeing the development of the lore/style etc is always interesting.
Every LoL cinematic is the same. Music and they fight... the hero gets knocked down but in the end he wins. Sorry but its lazy... visually stunning like Blizzards cinematics but boring as hell. You seen one you seen them all.
@@thelastlebowski3055 well then u saw only the music/action cinematics and not the rest of them like for example song about amumu and varus where riot actually tells a story in artistic way, but wow nerd always will talk shit.
@@thelastlebowski3055 yeah. it's a cinematic for a game that's about fighting . they should really sit down in one of the cinematics and drink a cup of tea. 4 mins of drinking tea and eating biscuits.
@@thelastlebowski3055 To say this BS you clearly only seen one yeah xD
@@thelastlebowski3055 You sound like a 40 year old WoW Head. Every game cinematics are essentially the same - good guy wins kinda thing.
EVEn then your description doesnt even fit the narrative of the cinematic in this video - you only see part of what happens and you never actually get an actual conclusion.
You may be sad and miserable bc WoW has given you stale boring Cinematics for the past 3 expansions.. LUL the only good one was the BFA intro - the rest is very dogshi - doesnt mean other game companies have lost their touch.
Riots lore is VERY good. Some writers worked on Warhammer 40k lore before riot so they brought some very good experience with them. The mythology and the world is very well made. I'm very sure that the game will be great
please don't tell me that some of them work for END TIME novel. that shit is blasphemy
@@zooleebest ik.not sure about that. But one of the lead writers was one of the original Warhammer writers.
about the lore I have only Three words to say: Sentinels of Light.
@@shencloud6523 that's the marketing dept writing...
@@shencloud6523 that was forced af just for the event. Covid and lack of communication of different departments fked the event
I honestly want Asmongold to watch more league cinematics. They're all so fucking good ♥
why do you want some random internet dude to watch some youtube video you like?
@@envyXzor why do you not want some random internet dude to not watch some youtube videos you don't like?
@@sulex90 i could not care less bout some random on the internet
@@envyXzor yet you are here watching some random dude talk shit about shit and commenting on shit from random people. Welcome to the internet
@@envyXzor and yet here you are in the comments after watching a random on the internet react to a random video and are now arguing with random people
Disclaimer: many people in this comment section are getting confused and thinking that this cinematic was made for the mmo.
In reality this cinematic was just made to hype up the new league ranked season.
You should consider this like a music video or something like that.
It's still shit imo. Loose sand. And technically also not always nicely polished.
@@willem2099 shit taste detected
@@willem2099 I can't imagine how someone could dislike an epic cinematic like this, but fair enough. Watch whatever meets your standards, buddy.
He's sweating knowing that his fav game wow is gonna be in shambles when riot release the new mmo.
@@captain1432 lost cause if you ask me. he's most likely bitter because he's one of the last hardcore wow players that neckbeard the shit out of that game since release while more and more players are abandoning this trainwreck of a game. with no one else around, who would he show off his ingame achievements to? he doesn't want people to quit his game over something else but it's inevitable.
It doesn´t really matter what they do. The one thing they have ahead of wow is that they actually care about their franchise, that will always make them bigger. But i don´t think it´s gonna be a wow killer. People will always play wow, because too many of the players are too connected with wow and invested too much to this point. Wow is killing itself in the long run, it´s not killed by a certain game.
Its just like csgo and valorant. CSGO is killing itself meanwhile riot has their own version of csgo that they actually update and work on
well if the next few expansions aren't gonna up the quality of the game then by the time riot mmo is gonna release wow is probably already dead (or close to it)
wow is the wow killer lmao
this is true. the only thing that can kill a massively popular game is itself.
like blizzard themselfes said long time ago, the only thing to kill WoW is gonna be WoW.... we just assumed it would be WoW 2, instead of the current mess.
They can literally make a whole series on just Pantheon and his lore. He's just an amazing character.
Thats a strange way to type Mantheon
Agreed *Manly handshake*
One of the best characters in league, literally defying the gods to achieve aspectral power, and then overpowering those said gods to secure his place on the rift. True fucking gigachad
@@SuperTheTman And then Viego appeared and Ruined him, literally... the supposedly most unbreakable mortal succumbed to a grown kid not even trying to destroy the world but just simp
@@nomejodas2978 Viego doesn't create what isn't there. Pantheon was corrupted because he hates Targon and it's aspects. He's probably strong enough to almost completely ignore viego, but a power boost is a power boost. If viego just wanted him to beat on Targon, he already was doing that.
Riot has had movie quality scenes like these for years. Their team is excellent at this hope they make a full movie or series before or after this MMO gets released.
My brother in Christ, they literally got an animted series on Netflix
@@valantiskefalas3664 LOL
Ar - fucking - cane man
@@valantiskefalas3664 xD
Arcane!
"Everybody hates League of Legends but they still play it"
Same as WoW 🤣
But People hate league cause their teammates suck. You play the game and in 8/10 games your actions don´t matter cause one teammates on either side ruins the whole game. Mostly everybody agrees it´s insanely fun playing with 4 friends. While wow on the other hand is, barely a game. it´s a chory grind.
@@KelpoChips WoW barely a game? How many things can you do in league, and how many things can you do in wow?
@@KelpoChips ye 40/40/20 rule. If you wanna climb you have to win the 20% games which are influenced by yourself and you just have to ignore the 40% autolose games
@@KelpoChips no bercause riot is targetting weebs and normies or ruining champion concepts by prioritizing fan service over quality like Seraphine default skin being developed after her skin ending up sa being an empty and forgettable champion, or gwen... not even doing anything in the ruination event, sylas being a shirtless buffed dude who stood behind bars unable to move and still look jacked, bel veth being a "monster champion" meanwhile they focus on her human features like pretty face and obvious presene on a voluptious body in her splash art... People are sick of this uwu weeb anime kawaii kpop normie fan service shit, they want quality champions like mordekaiser, pantheon, volibear, fiddlestick and soon udyr, you know... characters that deserve to be called "Champions"
I must be one of a kind then, i hate newschool league, i mean it was good way back but in 2022 its trash.
just like wow was good back in the days but retail is garbage. i dont play neither tho :P
honestly ive never said any game was the "WoW killer" and even at its worst time WoW is still a huge mmorpg but I really do believe this game has everything it needs to surpass WoW and its glory days. They already do awesome job with character design that's very appealing so if they can lock down combat, pve, and pvp it will be amazing. I really think no other upcoming brand new mmorpg will last more than 6 months.
They made the worst rioter in charge of it so we'll see
the best part about the cinematic... all those abilities are what the champions do in league. It doesn't feel like they have cinematic only abilities that aren't in-game, but rather their actual capabilities that we've already been using on the rift
I've always liked that about their cinematics. Keeps the fantasy of the characters alive.
except for the part where taliyah drops a portion of the cliff, in game she kinda just throws rocks at you
@@specificocean4176 I'm fairly certain that's supposed to be her ult. She's using her ult into the tunnel to close it up
@@zubhanwc3 her ult already shown in a different cinematic and its looks very similar to the one ingame where she builds a wall with a bunch or stone lines, i think this is just showing what she is capable of, but ye it could just be a vertical wall if you really go into the specifics
@@specificocean4176 @Specific Ocean all the champions essentially use their abilities in this cinematic. in the case of taliyah, she goes in the order of W->Q->E->R, where the R is a vertical wall.
In the 2018 cinematic, its a wall of earth that's taken from the ground. In this case, its taken from the mountain
I don't play League, but I always look forward to seeing a cinematic release; they're always awesome! This was one of my favorites, it's just so powerful.
If they put half as much energy into the actual gameplay they wouldn’t have a fan base that hates them so much. Sure casual players that don’t really care about ranked gameplay don’t care, but the ones in ranked constantly have to lockout 20+ champions just so the game can be balanced is a huge pain in the ass. Cuz you don’t know weather you are gonna enjoy the game or not before the 5 bans your team has been made. (Bans is where you lockout champions so they can’t be played in that match) the game is just super unbalanced. There is champions that got 2 or 3 kits meanwhile you sit with a champ that’s got 1 kit… basically I can say it this way. CS:GO wise. I start out with a glock. And you start out with an AK-47 an AWP and full armour. Not fair right :/ and to make matters worse you now got aimbot too. That’s how unbalanced the game is today.
@@thisguyhd6591 seems like a skill issue
@@thisguyhd6591 it's not supposed to be 100% balanced that's why It's still played over the years meta changes are good for the game
@@billhansen6025 im fucking crying. such a simply response but its always so good lol
Dont play lol
Play lor for the Lore
I remember reading through each of the champion's backstories. They collectively made the world of League extensive and massive without seeing almost any of it. This is one of the reason's why people are still invested in this game for over a decade.
No dude. Its ranked and addiction to solo que ranks and getting good at a champ you like.. The lore is nice but it has nothing to do with the game itself.
@@kozmatheclown thats basically saying there are no casual players who play this play game which is just factually wrong.
@@hanson2331 Casual players make up such a small portion of the playerbase that it's not even worth mentioning. Plus the game obviously pushes ranked nd competitive play a lot.
@@kozmatheclown stopped playing lol 2 years ago but I would still very gladly support them with the other games just because the world building is that good
@@kozmatheclownnow this is just wrong and actually the opposite. I know it's hard to believe that majority of the playernase are casually playing this game whether its ranked, normals, and arams. Almost 76% of the player base are casuals that do play in lower ranks (bronze to plat) while diamond and above collectively makes up about 4%
This can’t be the WoW killer if WoW is already dead
wow is the wow killer
FFXIV killer
Imagine the wow killer gets released moments after wow kills itself XD
It killed itself for League's mmo to take it's place
"How do you kill that which has no life?" -wow dev
While it's not a trailer for the MMO, I can totally see how this would also garner interest for it, given that it's all the same universe. You can watch LoL trailers and get hyped for their MMO. Smart move.
Good trailers are very important to garner interest and hype up the existing playerbase. FFXIV's 6.2 trailer did a great job with that, too. The song at the end is fire.
I’m excited for this MMO. Didn’t see it coming from Riot but it’s refreshing to see a different approach to an MMO. I’m a huge league fan so that doesn’t help 😂
you got to keep in mind that all riot games are not p2w and also free to play. they will overtake every mmo in 1 month of realease.
can't imagine the amount of connections those servers are gonna get on release date, is going to be absolutely insane.
i hope the gameplay is good and they nail it cause so there will be absolutely 0 reason to play wow if thats the case. theres so many things they cant do in wow because the game is prehistoric and blizzard hasnt really given a shit in a very long time
Is the riot mmo gonna be free to play
Imagine saying this when there is literally 0 gameplay footage and they don't even have a name for the game yet. Riot MMO.
League is P2W, you are wrong.
I also hope Riot does not only think of this MMO as a simple game, but as one of the 3 pillars ( League of Legends, arcane and the upcoming MMO ) that support the world they created as a franchise.
dont forget project L as well
Legends of Runeterra is also surprisingly great.
And the game of The Ruined King and Hextech Mayhem
@@y.lninja0078 Hard to call them "Pillars" though. These are just nice spin-offs. Loved The Ruined King btw.
@@Miraihi That game is the only successor to old school hearthstone imo, doesn't seem like any other competitive card game is able to capture that chill, creative, and immersive combination like those two games.
The call cinematic is phenomenal because the Sejuani part seems so epic and awesome, and then you read the lore and find out she's challenging the Volibear so she can steal the magic pot of infinite soup he stole from Ornn.
Well, you can put everything like that. Pantheon is an r/atheism user who wants to 1v1 god.
@@ThatWildcard pantheon is one of the disciples of jesus, but he decided jesus was an asshole and fucking decked the guy
Asmon getting into lol lore is great they really done a great job the past few years . These cinematics hit harder when you know the characters and who and why their fighting.
Pantheon is a man who fought gods and became the aspect of war. He such a cool character similar to kratos from God of war xD
Are there any LoL lore books that are not outdated?
And managed to survive when the celestial of war, which is Pantheon, the mortal host that is Atreus survived, from sheer fucking will.
@@Oxmosh the League website has everything there is tbh, there you can find everything, from concept art of all regions and events, to bios of all 161 characters that narrate what happened during those events and how they affected the world itself
@@Oxmosh the comics would be the most updated versions of the lore imo.
Omg i cant believe this, THERE IS ACTUALLY SOMEONE OUT THETE THAT USES THE SAME PROFILE PICTURE AS ME, i know is right there on google pics but i never thought i ever find someone who actually had the exact same one lol i had this for more then 5 years already
I really wish that I could get into Riot's games. They have this amazing world and all of these wonderful characters, but it's all wrapped up in a bunch of ultra-competitive PVP games and I am just not about that life. I hope that the MMO is going to give me that in that I'm looking for.
Have you heard of the Ruined King game? it gives you lore without the competitive nature of League. Same with LoR.
mate play legends of runeterra
I wish I could get into Riot's stories, characters and worlds.
Play legends of runetera, there is pve mode, its like separate rouge like game. Or games from Riot Forge. It their publishing company. And even if you dont like pvp aspects you can play ARAM in LoL or not Ranked modes in TFT the games itself just fun to play.
LoL is obviously PVP only, with no in-game lore to speak of. The Ruined king though is a single players RPG, Legend of Runeterra has multiple single player campaigns and so on.
Well this aged well.
Seeing this reminds me of seeing the first WoW trailer this looks extremely promising as someone who has played thousands of hours on both games I am so excited to play their mmo when it eventually releases
this wasnt made for the MMO, but it takes place in runeterra. trust me when the first trailer drops, we are all going to drop our jaws
This is shot for shot the original wow cinematic
@@HolySpicoli care to point out how it is? i dont see it
@@HolySpicoli shot for shot? i dont think you know the definition of it buddy send me a link of this so called original wow cinametic
@@HolySpicoli I totally agree with you, put aside the quality but the ideas was a total copy paste from WoW, StarCraft, Sarah Kerrigan, Transformers (scorponok) etc.
Asmon's right that Riot makes good games, but I think the most important part is that they're good at retaining players.
For example I started playing League in 2010 and I stopped around 2016. However things like TFT, Legends of Runeterra, and Ruined King have kept me at least mildly invested in their content and lore, by offering new experiences with familiar characters. That investment and connection players have with the world Riot has created just keeps bringing old players like myself back. I'm sure this MMO will do the same.
Fun ≠ Good
Tft is from Dota LOR is just a card game its nothing unique, u invested money and time in league that's why u come back doesn't need a super pc but it's a shit game regardless its not even a good game but yet we still go back to it, but people who talk about lore and what not u don't have to play the game to learn about lore
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@@cristhianmlr Good = Fun, being fun is what makes them good.
@@jenzu4229 there is no better moba
The way they incorporated the characters ultimates gave me fking chills man 😭😭 I felt the same way with arcane and the ability reveals
People are completely delusional if they believe WoW is still relevant to a younger demographic of gamers. People view it in the same lens we used to view Everquest now.
Riot mmo will me the killing blow for wow
Same thing with League
@@geoDB. False, squakers still play lol. In fact squakers are majority in lower ranks.
League’s lore was thankfully very well developed. It’s amazing, I’m glad they did this with their franchise
Well player made lore. League was never meant to have lore, it’s a repetitive game they made as a money grab, they never expected their fans to get so into it. But it just shows simple minds like simple things.
@@sharpshooter_Aus Pointless statement... Please name one company or author that provides content that's not intended solely for making money or in your words "cash grab". Riot is doing amazing work with the league universe, and here you are sitting at home and shitting on others work whilst sitting on your ass all day and doing nothing. XD
@@sharpshooter_Aus I thought it was a sequel to the immensely popular DOTA. Made by a couple of the original modders behind the Warcraft mod. With their intention being to create a more modern and fast-paced action oriented engine to run an almost identical style of game.
They knew very well that there was a potential for millions of dedicated long-term fans, many of whom would be competitively skilled from day one thanks to their experiences in DOTA.
DOTA was already the most popular mod for a game in history, it only made sense to make a full game based on the concept. And with the advent of the 2010's gaming hit the mainstream and league of legends became a household name simply by being the most well designed competitive action RTS style game available at the time.
With players from both the original warcraft 3 DOTA mod and from Starcraft quickly finding the familiar style easy to adjust to.
Plus it's similarity to the timeless action RPG Diablo, with its isometric viewpoint and point and click control system, means that it retains both a modern look and feel but with the nostalgia and ease of a system that is tried and tested.
@@sharpshooter_Aus The Lore was actually quite extensive during the early days of League too. They would continuously expand on it each fortnightly update.
They'd send out these long ass blog posts in the client with short stories for each new character and even had a section specifically devoted to Lore where you could read a couple of pages of the Runeterra newspaper each fortnight. Which would go over many of the different characters interactions with one another outside of summoners rift and how the ordinary citizens of Runeterra were impacted by them.
They stopped doing a lot of that and deleted all of their old Lore when China bought them up though.
@@sharpshooter_Aus oh you are so clueless
3:05 There're 2 types of Ascended beings. The Ascended God-Warriors of Shurima who ascend by receiving the energy of the Sun gods through the Sun disc into their bodies are the most common ones but there's actually a second and much rarer kind, the Aspect hosts. They're people who've survived the ascension of Mount Targon. Once at the top, an Aspect may grant a portion of its power to the person (only humans have achieved this afaik) and make it its representant. Leona is one of them, she embodies the Aspect of the Sun (the lady in gold-plated armor in front of the "portal". The Aspect of War (Pantheon) was different though, he didn't grant his powers to Atreus, he possessed his body. When Aatrox stabbed Atreus' body, he killed the Pantheon. Atreus survived and kept the Pantheon's powers. He then went on a quest to kill all the Aspects. That's why he planted his spear in the ground against the Solari soldiers, but took it back when Leona showed up.
Who are the Sun gods? I hear that lie for the first time. Sun disk has celesital power in it and it comes directly from Aurelion Sol. There are 3 types of gods. Ascended god warriors from Shurima. Celestial gods from Targon and gods (spirits) that were created with Runeterra. Strongest are celestial gods, then Ascended god warriors. Most of the god warriors are dead, there remain only 5 Darkins, cursed and robed of their powers but they kept magic from their legendary Darkin weapons, weapons that kill immortals. Other gods are scared of them cause they can end them.
@@aatroxtheworldender933 Ignoring your name, that's some oooooooooold stuff you got there. The Sun Gods are most likely just celestial beings akin to Bard and Kindred. There're technically no "gods" on Runeterra, although a few types of beings can be referred as such: the Aspects, the celestial beings, the Watchers, and the Freljord demi-gods: Ornn, Anivia, the Volibear, the Iron Boar, and the Seal sister.
The Ascended god-warriors have "god" in their names because of how powerful they are. Each one of them can fight a whole army on its own. The Aspects and celestial beings are sometimes referred as "gods" because they come from a different realm than Runeterra: Targon Prime. The Freljord demi-gods are sometimes referred simply as "gods" because they're so much stronger than a whole region of Valoran united together; they've also impacted the region alot more or less behind the scenes.
Most of the Ascended god-warriors became the Darkin, but there're still at least a few left that remain as "Ascended", namely Nasus, Renekton, and Azir. All the Darkins that haven't died were either sealed in the Chalicar (Sivir's weapon) or individual weapons. Aatrox was sealed in a sword, Varus in a bow, Rhaast in a scythe, Xolaani in kamas iirc, and the last one whom is unknown is sealed in a dagger. In Legends of Runeterra, one even took possession of a chicken and another a ballista I think 🤔. None of those Darkins are dead. They were sealed away BECAUSE they couldn't be killed.
Most "gods" don't give a shit about the Darkins. It was the humans that asked help from the Aspects and the Aspect of Twilight (before Zoe) sealed the Darkins away.
Asmongold is seeing what blizzard USED TO BE, a company who cares about their product and brand
LoL is quality, its hell, but its quality
do you really think riot cares their product and brand xd
@@Wladaas Yes. They do care lol
@@Wladaas More than Blizzard nowadays at least, even if riot is owned by tencent
@@Wladaas People tend to forget that it's run by Chinas communist government. They just want your money, too.
@@Wladaas intricate lore building , promotional videos and MVs left and right, a whole netflix series. Nah I don't think they care at all.
The Call is the culmination of years of great and entertaining cinematics. Their best.
It's subjective. I still think their best is Annie's Origin cinematic.
The Call was meh. It has this many views because it's been played as an ad very often (I have seen it myself). Awaken was really the best season cinematic they've done
@@luxjam1737 mah girl riven
@@luxjam1737 I have to disagree. This cinematic just feels like its on a bigger scale compared to Awaken.
@@luxjam1737 awaken, warriors, the call all rlly gr8 cinematics for me
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Living in one's "comfort zone" is a contributing cause to the plight of young people.
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@@samiraabubakar2963 they said when you invest little money you earn big,
Can't even imagine how it is possible
LoL's lore is almost complete, every region, every character and every event are already been set years ago and just waiting to be released.
Unlike wow's WoD and BFA
wdym xD they ruined a cool concept about the players being in the story as summoners, the game itself being part of the lore. Whats there now is just a soup of fantasy tropes where you can choose your favorite from a palette of off-brand mythologies.
lols lore are paragraphs that are as generic as wows lore is you are on some insane copium
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@Kimi Timoskainen damacis is the only one i see as pretty original with the anti magic white stuff. Every other is pretty generic nord/vrykul and so on.I don't think wow lore is original either but this guy is elevating lols lore way above what it really is. WOW ESO and FF currently have more developed world and original come is coping
@Kimi Timoskainen The person that made that comment is a WoW andy that hasn't touched a single other form of story game in the last 15 years
I love Riot's world building and how in-depth it is. I'd also like to point out that there's a bit cool extra stuff that can be found in Legends of Runeterra (Riot's card game) in some of the card description. I'd urge anyone interested in the lore to watch Necrit, he is well known for lore related content!
Was a mess at first when they retconned everything from the first 3 seasons and its original lore, but glad they finally got around to fixing that massive hole left after that.
Retconed more than WoW, and that's quite an achievement.
Granted the lore is "good" now, but they are waaaayyyyyyyy below other "lorecentric/storycentric" MMOs/games
@@sanosukesagara6104 Thats true but mostly becouse League has never really needed deep lore for there caracters becouse its played in an arena style battle. Your not doing any story lines or have talks with caracters so the lore have never really needed to go as deep or been so interconnected as mmo lore needs to be. All the lore we got for League have never really hade any connections to u when u play the game other then a few voice lines when spamming /taunt or /joke to other caracters. The lore was created becouse the fans wanted it, not becouse the game needed it.
@@Shiftry87 Check out my comment in this video it is exactly what you said at the end
Necrit is the VaatiVidya of League 😆
I came back here after 2023 cinematic lmfao
And they have Ghostcrawler, the man responsible for having fun classes during MoP
wait until he realizes that riot made a K-pop music video with half a billion views only to promote skins
Ssshhhh
bro not the name
I won't play League but I have always loved the design and lore of its characters
Never before have I felt this proud to be a league fan. The cinematic is amazing, and I am glad Asmon finally sees the amazing world they've built
so sad that only the cinematics are amazing
@@otrousuariomas7411 ay you tell me. been playing the game since season 3. still feels good tho
I said the same, like I can bag on league all day but no one can deny all of these are done w so much passion and talent.
Fun fact, Riot already fired the head of lore creative who build the whole world and lore of the game.
xD
@@tuck295q you are talking about the very first lore right? because that wasn’t good at all
“Everybody hates it, but they still play it”
No truer words have ever been spoken
People hate league when in reality they hate their teammates. League on its own is a fun and extremely successful game
I'm really hoping that Game will shake the MMO Market and hopefully that and the Microsoft acquisition will get Blizzard to actually put effort into WoW again.
Nice copium
I remember when Blizz's cut scenes would give me the chills like that. I couldn't get into LoL (mainly because I hate click to move isometric games) but I loved Arcane and I'm hyped for this new MMO. That promo is amazing and I hope we can play the furry race;) By the way, if you haven't seen Arcane yet, I think it's one of the best Netflix shows ever.
Don't know if you mean that this is a promo for the MMO, just in case, it's not. Regarding "the furry race", I don't know which one you mean. You could mean the like the fox lady or the small yordles. But either way, the fox lady Ahri is probably in the top 5 most popular champions in having a fan base, riot gives her a lot of attention because of that. Which basically means her race is basically guaranteed to be in the game. Yordles are a big staple for the world of Runeterra, they are 100% gonna be a payable race.
hahaha is furry race heimerdinger:P?
@@kuivia yes, kinda.
Vastaya & Yordles are definitely gonna be a playable race.
What click to move
came here after watching the 2023 cinematic to cleanse my soul
Can't wait for this fucking game to come out. I honestly am hopeful, even thought Riot's owned by Tencent (right?), I believe these guys will not waste the chance to grab WoW's spot, they know they have the resources AND the fan base. They even know how to captivate audience... Even the fact that their videos are "musical"... makes people sometimes re-watch them just for the songs... They're simply using their brains... Blizzard has the chance to do this as well, but yeah...
Yeash Riot is either 99% or 100% owned by Tencent, don't remember how much exactly. Best part is this cinematic was just for the 2022 Season of League, think how good a cinematic can be focused on the MMO and the world they want us to know.
@Gaust hey mate! I agree with you. To me, WoW IS the best MMO out there right now, not for numbers or for any metrics besides the metrics in my head (IMO, basically). Well I am suuuuper-duper hopeful for Blizzard now with the Microsoft deal too. I love WoW lore, I love the merchs, the art-style, everything they did is masterfully well crafted (besides the few huge hickup-expansions)... I think WoW has a brilliant future ahead, and their momentum is so big that WoW will not be going anywhere soon. It's still Blizzard's face, too relevant to let it go down like that.
@@arthurfilemon6038 wow will eventually die out with all the graphical innovation and new tech coming out each year. The game ins fundamentally old and borderline impossible to keep up with future industry standards. Future mmos wil be triple A singleplayer level quality of today and it is impossible for the engine itself to keep up.
@@nvcool1 I disagree. As much as some people want, MMORPGs are MMORPGs and must be catered to a broader audience, hence why you will not see any popular MMORPG game with graphics alla Elden Ring, for example, which is not the best but already way too much for an MMORPG.
The engine is constantly being updated, the graphics too and perhaps you haven't been into the game but you can see a clear difference from each and every expansion the graphics just get better and better and the game just looks more and more appealing.
Future MMORPGs are not to be confounded with future Action RPGs that are indeed getting prettier and prettier, but those cater to a single player experience that MMORPGs don't need to care this much about. It is important, but not the main objective of an MMORPG, neither are the looks. Playability, content, community sense, etc.
@G T Wrath of the lich king prepatch just dropped. So you can re-live it now.
"Everybody hates LoL, but they still play it." So f**king true xD
RIOT is a truly talented team, they were looked down on in the beginning when they had the idea to make league. and now they are on the top of the mountain with the best of the best. gj brandon beck and marc marill on showing everyone they were wrong and of course the rest of the team that makes it all possible. 👏
I just hope they balanced the mmo better than they balanced valo and lol :)
@@Fanatiikon valo and lol are good balanced, it is intended that there are some champions stronger than others. It has been like this for years and bc of that, the game is still alive
@@blueKoniro a bit delusional but it’s ok
@@Fanatiikon every moba has balance issues It's a hard thing to do especially with how much characters in their roster at least they're trying their best
@@blueKoniro have u played the game since 2009?
Cuz the glory days are behind them.
I have played and experienced those glory days where league was truly balanced and u could see many champs be played at any role.
Now...
I started playing league in 2020 and I watched all the cinematics since the beginning and the quality of music, animation and everything else just keeps getting better than the previous one
Sorry for your loss…
The Blizzard jokes write themselves at this point. Trash developer that does not deserve to be making any money on any of their games.
Everyone: * fighting *
Ornn: 🗡🔨
It's always amazed me the quality of the directing and the cgi in their animations. Blizzard does the cgi well but lacks in directing. And the companies are so far apart from each other financially, but Riot clearly holds on to true values in gaming and that's why I think this game will be amazing.
Maybe Blizzard can try make a nice auto-battler like teamfight tactics. That would be interesting with all the possible characters.
Hearthstone Battleground?
Hearthstone battleground…
Blizzard and Riot does not do CGI animations. All of game cinematic trailers are not done by the game company, it is outsourced to an actual VFX companies. Kind of like how Marvel does their films. This "The Call" cinematic was done by Unit Image.
2WEI are such a good fit for Video Game music. Hope they get more recognition all over.
I’m pretty sure that vid has nothing to do with the MMORPG
of all the companies, of all the games, Riot has the ONE game that actually has the chance to de-throne WOW. They have many of the attributes wow had when they launched but in alot of ways more. Amazon has a tremendous amount of money to spend. For me Riot has built a more fascinating world than Azeroth.
runeterra >>>> azeroth
@@yanto0-10powerspike7 WOW is already dead if the riot mmo succedes its just gonna put the nail in the coffin
well, after the new "cinematic" from Riot... WoW can definitely compete.
"I HATE LEAGUE" - still plays 12 hours per day
It is funny to me, that blizzard are SO blind to everything Riot are doing right, if they actually see it, then the mentality at blizzard must be "lets do everything opposite of what Riot is doing"
Their fucking ego man, they even look down on their own content creators. Meanwhile Riot also supporting reaction only channels that don't even play any of their games
About that...
And all of this only exists, because two guys had a business model for a MOBA that developers denied and investors saw the potential and took it. I am a huge fan of this universe, without even playing the game. it has some of the best characters in whole gaming industry imho.
and no morals, that helps too :)
Everytime Riot releases a new Cinematic its allways chills and its always clean animations
you have bad taste
Riot will be one of the most successful companies in the 2010 era
and they're really good at making games successful.
from the beta phase to its' championship in esports.
now this cinematic looks really in game.
really hope riot will have a game engine overhaul for league of legends.
“Everybody hates league of legends but they still play it” lol
With a cast that is so easily recognizable that a player who hasn't played in YEARS was able to name every character both shown and implied...It would be hard for them NOT to succeed. Having a massive background of characters, locales, and events to draw from is what makes an MMO an easy success for a company, and they have that in droves.
I feel like MMO fans are really going to get blindsided by this. I love how MMO players get hyped seeing like 1m concurrent for New World or Lost Ark when it released, League MMO will blow those out of the water nothing will come close. The League universe is so beloved and this is what everyone who has ever played League but quit due to the game being terrible have been waiting for.
Lol. Everyone saying this. Then the game died.
@@Priestitude he's right. I hardly play league anymore but the mmo has me hyped beyond belief. I can assure you millions of people have my mindset as well
They will fuck it all up with pay to win store bullshit just like literally every game in the last few years. They will have exp boost and character boost for sale along with cosmetics and possibly even player power. I was going to play new world but as soon as they put the store in the game I lost every ounce of interest in the game and never even touched it.
@@mrfrupo no they won't lol. none of their games are pay to win. there is no reason they would go that route
@@mrfrupo riot has never put pay 2 win in their games hell even the card game is very consumer friendly for a genre that is usally very pay 2 win and rng
Holy fucking shit, massive chills from that cinematic.
I agree, their work is always solid. And it's stupid if people say otherwise, I hate League and I hate Valorant, but I can still acknowledge that these games are well made and clearly people love them.
I really hope after my national service I can go to School of Game Design, and then I get to work at Riot Games Studio. That be one of the greatest thing to happen to me.
"Everybody hates league of legends, but they still play it."
Say what you want about League and Riot, but their art team is beyond amazing
I think you're exagerrating quite a bit however I will say their cinematics are top notch.
cant compete with something if they stop developing it
Worst things about these cinematics is that there's so many characters in LoL, most of which are literally never played. Like I played LoL for years and had no clue that Blacksmith is an actual character when I saw this video.
I remember when i used to go on road trips i had an app on my ipod touch that was just a lore app for league, i didnt even play the game at the time i just read the lore of each champion and it was so good, im pretty sure theyve changed a lot of them by now so they make more sense but i still remember how this world hooked me.
Its really different from other things and its so vast its awesome.
I don't think Riot's MMO will "kill wow". Even if it becomes bigger and more successful as a game.
Although a game like FF14 or possibly the Riot MMO, will hurt WoW by taking away players, they won't "kill it". People will be back for new expansions etc. But WoW might never be the number one MMO again. I think FF14 is currently bigger than WoW at least by most estimates, since we don't have all the numbers. But like most of the roleplaying story invested community of WoW actually switched over to FF14. Most of the casual raiding playerbase is playing FF14. Only some hardcore collection hunters, PvPers, and mythic raiders are really committed to playing WoW these days.
I personally look forward to possible PvP in the Riot MMO. Riot really knows how to make PvP combat feel good. Valorant and League both feel really satisfying when you're popping off. WoW devs don't understand their own game's PvP at all. They disrespect the community that PvPs. We had two years of BFA with the most horrible gearing system for PvP in the history of arena. Shadowlands was only a minor improvement, with more improvements inch by inch. And only now after four years are we even close to a decent and fair gearing system. Only DF PvP gearing looks actually good.
"He lived after getting knocked off the mountain?"
Atreus's entire shtick is literally never staying down. The god possessing his body died getting impaled by a massive greatsword, and he survived, woke up, and spat in the face of his enemy
How can riot or any company kill wow? We thought about a wow killer for dozens of games but the actual wow killer was wow/blizzard itself. What an irony
Hot take.
No game will ever take out wow. People forget this game is 15 years old. It’s okay for something to take it’s place as number 1.
the only thing that will ever truly kill wow is itself. for example dragonflight is seeming pretty good rn but theres always a good chance they just go back to never listening to feedback and implementing scummy systems. maybe microsoft knows whats up but regardless if riot mmo is good there will be 0 reasons to play wow if you care about playing actually good games and not being stockholmed in a game that sucks your time out of you
Anyone who doesn't think Riot's MMO is going to kill WoW is delusional.
The only reason it's going to kill WoW it's because it's from Riot and that's it.
As soon as their MMO launches it will have the highest concurrent players number ever, people really don't realise how big Riot's franchise is, they have 180M+ ACTIVE players every month across all of their games.
Even if only half of those players try out the MMO it will be almost 10 times bigger than WoW's peak and you will probably ask the question "what about after a while when people will obviously start to leave because it's not for everyone?", well, even if only 30-40% of those people that will try it out remain, it will still be bigger than WoW has ever been.
It's just the truth, you need to look at the numbers and do some research but ofc WoW neckbeards can't do that, "my game is the best and it will never die", reality check, it's already dying, by the time the Riot MMO releases, I'll be surprised if WoW has even 3M subs at least and it will most certainly not be a competitor anymore.
@@t.ydunston2251 Number 1? loool it was for a very long time, but that time is over
By the time the riot mmo is out they'll have more animated shows like arcane, they'll have LoL on console and to further push people into runeterra they also got the diablo esque LoL game and the LoL fighting game. They will also run cross promotions within all of their games like LoL,tft,valorant and wild rift.
Its the biggest promotion a mmo will have so far ,especially so when all of the games i mentioned are live service games. So riot already got a established multiplayer fanbase and outside of valorant all of them are borrowing off the runeterra setting. Riot just now have to market the mmo towards normies whos going to be coming to the mmo just to explore the world that arcane took in place and they'll have a banger. I'm 100% sure it will break all mmo records for concurrent players and preorders.
Let's make a bet on whether day 1 will have launch problems, or whether there won't be any. So far, usually mmos' servers were tragic day 1. Mayhaps we can look back at this comment in a couple of years to judge the outcome.
@@silkynightingale6632 Its impossible to prevent since not all day1 players will keep playing and the effort to prepare the servers only for people that most likely will not stick around in the long run isnt worth it.
@@glatzigoblin If they are running their servers in a cloud like Amazon EC or Google Compute, in theory they could spin up more servers in minutes as needed. I really liked how Guild Wars 2 did that... if the servers were too full, your "wait queue" was a temporary server you played in during the wait. No actual waiting.
music didnt fit at all
I don't know why literally everyone thinks this has to do with the MMO, it's just a season start music video for league, it has absolutely nothing to do with the MMO apart from it being league of legends.
Wdym "literally everyone", im pretty sure asmon is just watching it because chat told him to watch the cinematics because they show more of the cool lore of the game??
And because the league mmo will have the same lore as league this actually applies
@@botronas6039 read some of the comments
Rewatch yesterday's video as this one is a continuation of that video's topic. Riot commercially has bought a lot of goodwill with gamers. If they did make an MMO it would have a tremendous amount of buy in because you wouldn't have to deal with the toxicity if you don't want to (PvP servers). The number of former players who still love the lore is tremendous when compared to those who once liked wow but couldn't care less about where the story is going.
The point of this is to show how much Riot cares about their product than Blizzard does in current modern day.
Even if they suck at making league balanced, they still put 100 percent effort in keeping it alive and giving it a comprehensive universe to follow (they're not perfect, but THEY definitely cate) . As well as keeping players or gaining new ones.
Riot got the manpower and budget to make a really amazing mmorpg, so i am hyped to see what they can come up with. + they are pretty much like Blizzard that they make their graphics in a cartoony way so it last forever.
They should have plenty of free Devs with how many drop from dying league
@@geoDB. i havent played League since season 3 so i have no idea how that game is doing today lol.
very badly if you're not delusional
@@geoDB. League IP is well and alive if you're not delusional actually. Look how it branched out in their other games like Hextech Mayhem, Ruined King, Legends of Runeterra, upcoming fighting game (Project L), TFT, and Arcane. All of these games are derived from League and the game itself is having its best moments since release.
@@geoDB. If by very badly you mean the highest monthly player count it has ever had with almost 200 millions with a monthly increment of +40millions since arcane released, with a peak of more than 35millions users in a sigle day, btw that is more than steam itself. Yeah league is indeed dying. Season 2 of arcane releases next year btw that will be the nail in the coffin for a dead game.
It even has cameo's with King Leonidas and Ciri
this didnt age well
I can't say whether Riot's MMO will be amazing or shit, and although Riot is doing world building so much better than Blizzard is at this moment, Riot also does very questionable things that push away players just like Blizzard. I played League for years and the only thing that stopped me from playing is Riot's poor decision making. The art team is amazing, story team is amazing, balance team? Not so much. Creative design management team (when it comes to skins), kind of disappointing as of recently, they some times listen to the community, and other times completely ignore it, especially with Game modes. I would love for WoW to keep getting competition, and Riot's MMO could be it, but Riot is a but of a stray bullet and has the same chances of being a disappointed as much as an accomplishment.
Also Riot's community is generally the sweatiest toxic piece of ass there is, So not too sure how well it's going to translate into an MMO.
If you think balance team is bad, you rly dont understand how pvp games work. They intentionally make changes to make some champions weak or strong so the game always feel different and live. Its not dota where 5years nothing was happening to characters.
@@GerriFuryman not what I was referring to, I was referring to characters being updated more based on popularity rather than choice. Also champs often getting major updates right before skin releases to cash in on $$$, as well as Riot having their own bias towards specific champs.
@@yolando1774 how can the get money if not from popular champions? They will be dead if spent time to make skins for champions with 1-20% pick up rate.
@@GerriFuryman they make money from cosmetics nonetheless, and it's fine and understandable to make more skins for more popular champions, but to buff them to "S tier" for a few weeks until they get nerfed back to non meta just so they can sell some skins is a shady business practice for an incredibly competitive game.
@@yolando1774 I’m sure that it has an effect on champ skins, but the practice is also has no effect on the skin sales as a result of player passion. I’ve spent money on skins, but only for characters I play frequently. There’s a difference between the commoners and the whales of skin purchasing. Obviously, I don’t have the numbers, but I’d expect that buffing champions before releasing a skin likely improves the chances of whales buying the skins because they would likely buy cool skins regardless. Someone who plays league causally or mains a few champs isn’t going to buy a jinx skin because she got turbo buffed. Most players are commoners rather than whales. Sure it’s shady for the consequences are likely a lot less impactful than you’d expect. But maybe it works exactly as you’re thinking, we can’t know without the numbers.
where is it now?
If asmongold watches enough cinematics or even just binge the region showcases in legends of runeterra, it will make him understand even more that an MMO based on runeterra is massive that it can literally outweigh WoW.
I’m more invested in the lore than LoL itself. Everything they produce has been great. I will be playing the mmo on release. Arcane really sold me. They care about the universe.
opposite case for me
I know everyone born past the year 2000 won't remember but when that first wow trailer dropped it was such a mood. And I can feel that same mood again for the first time in 20 years... This is going to be BIG. see you all there.
I believe that this RIOT MMO will be a game changer for the genre.
2023 cinematics be like: 🗿🗿🗿
:/ The cinematic was indeed bad, however they also said that with the start of the next season, they will give us a 'normal' cinematic like Warriors, The Call etc
I think if they actually do that, then trust can be reestablished.
I used to be an active league player years back, started somewhere around 2011 or 2012 and nerded it up until like 2016 or 2017 (Never broke silver...)
And while the games could be *stupidly fun* it was also extremely toxic and unforgiving for the average joe.
I've always missed League and while i could just login and play it right now, i'd simply be reminded why i stopped.
Im hoping the MMO will reinvigorate my passion for the game and lore once again.
I have exactly same reasons why not to step back into the rift. I play a lot of ARAM tho, its fun too and way less toxic.
league cinematics are the most motivating source in this universe. just imagine how nuts the mmorpg is going to go in that regard for making people sub.
riot makes such good cinematics
My only problem with Riot is some of their shady dealings when releasing skins that "will never be available for purchase again!" and then releasing them again 3 years later.
And now being owned by Tencent.
May still give it a try depending on the information they release regarding monetization.
Reminder that KenAdams still works for Riot in an unannounced game. Let's fucking hope that it's not the MMO.
All those years there were suppose to be WoW killers, never ever did i even slightly believe they were right.
Riot however managed to create an incredible world, deep lore and memorable characters in the time span of over 12 years. Better step up your game Blizzard, cause i do think the WoW killer is in the making now.
Yeah, I've never believed in a WoW killer in all the years people have been hyping them up.
But I do believe a successful Riot MMO will essentially be a WoW killer. It won't die, but it'll be left a very hollow shell in comparison if Riot decides to do things properly.
Wow already had a great lore since wc lol, also this cinematic is rank advertisement not mmo XD
@@jenzu4229 so? still show that the community is fucking huge while nobody gives a shit about wow anymore lol
@@jenzu4229 I'm not bashing WoW, have been a great fan since it all started and i do think their lore is great, unlike the path they're following with WoW itself.
No king rules forever.
@@noobgoestrapping5084 I feel like numerous amounts of people have said the exact same thing for every mmo
great trailer. this sent chills down my spine and I have 0 knowledge about riot's world. I can only imagine how the fans feel like.
We are shitting ourselves
We've injected league right into our blood vessels at this point... We can't live without it
4:33
"Everyone hates LoL but they still play it".
That is damn spot on.
Can't wait to see the reaction vids about how hard this game fell off a few months after release.
Well... you're gonna have to wait 6 years for those reactions lol
I don't know about that, Riot is pretty good with making things they do stay afloat.
@@skomolowski Both TFT and LOR are dead in the water with Valorant losing 90% of the hype as well. League is the only thing keeping them going
I somehow remember Dota2 players saying something similar a decade ago, I think we can agree it aged poorly.
@@stefanmilovanov3398 I can find a match in both LoR and TFT in about 3 seconds, are you tripping my guy?
RIOT also has a massive amount of well-known characters to use. Some of them extremely popular. League has 161 champions at the moment I think.
Those are just champions, imagine that
I've never heard another game studio match riot's music production, and it's not even remotely close.
All of Riot's cinematics are top tier. The music along with animations always gives me goosebumps 🙌. Can't wait for their MMO to come out. Definitely going to binge it for days on release.
They outsource really great VFX companies
Honestly the visuals are always great but the animations are not quite as fluid as the ones in WoW cinematics. Furthermore, the sequencing of events is often rushed and the music doesn't really hit the same sweet spot as WoW's. Yes, they have different musical styles but I don't feel like the LoL one really fits in as much with the general high fantasy style of WoW's.