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And you said it's a parlor trick for you guys to lift a car well it may be a parlor trick for you guys but for in every day woman it's pretty crazy and also how do you know she didn't lift the car 4 inches where you there did you see it
And yeah they're going to be stupid people who do stupid things but you don't discount what everybody says because of some stupid people that seems to be your whole reasoning for why you don't believe this lady because what does lady said people are doing dumb things that's not the fault of lady that's the fault of the dumb people
I think the "endurance thing" is glossed over and overlooked. Primitive humans with the capacity to communicate advanced tactics and their incredible endurance were nightmare fuel. Imagine you're a gorilla...yeah you can beatdown anything. One on one. And most other animals attacked one at a time or if they did come in groups, they could easily be scared away or would give up if there seemed to be a long battle ahead because of the caloric requirements would outweigh the need to fight that long for food. But here come those damn humans again...tools/spears in hand. They don't scare as easy and only peer at you from a distance as you try and scurry away from the large group of them. You run over a hill, your gorilla heart moving your massive frame. No worries, most animals would give up by now. You turn around...all 20 peering from around trees. On and on...until you're so exhausted all you can do is snarl and growl and they start closing in, throwing spears and darting away. Most people don't realize that even modern day marathoners can easily outrun a horse for distance over a day.
Great point. I once heard someone (i think it was a biologist, but im not certain there) refer to it as the same level of horror that a zombie horde would give a human. It was in the context of most mammals being four-legged and furry. With their four legs, they could easily outperform humans in terms of speed and acceleration. But - just like a horde of zombies - the humans would never stop chasing you. They cant sprint up to you by matching your speed, but whenever you would stop to rest (and most importantly, cool back down, since most animals actually have to rest to regulate body temperature back down, rather than being 100% exhausted muscle-wise), they are still running after you. You cant loose them easily, since their human eyes can see you at distance, and their upright way of walking means they can see above the gras/vegetation. They dont overheat like you do, since they have less fur and have a built-in cooling system (sweating). And their intelligence and social proclivity makes it almost impossible to scare them off when they are in a group. Eventually, you WILL have to rest, and by the time you would be recovered, they have already reached you.... Nature is terrifying in a lot of ways, but i think a lot of people underestimate how terrifying our human ancestors had to be in order to conquer nature they way they ended up doing.
@@random.3665 damn right! also the fact that humans could hunt without projectiles, simply by chasing an animal to die of exhaustion, is insane. and then comes the fact that we can pretty precisely launch deadly projectiles MUUUUUUCH further than anything alive is also crazy. the strongest gorilla can throw a rock maybe 10-15m/33-50ft with abysmal precision.
Homo Sapiens are in a weird space. We were/are the most efficient hunters in the animal kingdom yet we're also the easiest prey animal. Most people don't like to think about it obviously, but many researchers gloss over the fact that homo sapiens were hunted by many different predators for eons because in the right circumstances we're actually quite easy to kill.
@@ObsidianRadioTrue, I can only imagine a reason a lot of animals don’t target us has nothing to do with how hard it would be and everything to do with fears of thing that won’t happen. We have incredibly unique advantages, but we’re not anywhere close to perfect at all.
@@ObsidianRadio Its one of the traits of being a social species. One of us alone is easy prey. A group of our species is the most lethal hunting force on the planet.
I love how this video compared comic book characters with real life human lifters, discussed scientific subjects such as genetic and sexual dimorphism, and eventually ended on sci-fi-esque bionics and gene editing as possible solution to increase a human's upper limits. Great video. I'm truly impressed.
is it so scifi if we already able to breed and edit genes at animals to gain muscles like crazy ? (google belgian blue cow) myostatine blockers are insane.
A book that changed my life in ways that I never could imagine is "Secret Testosterone Nexus of Evolution".Drop whatever you're doing right now and go find that book. Trust me after I implemented things from the book my testosterone levels went beast mode
I think the human limit is actually determined by the ability of the body to tolerate mass, and the difficult/stressful road it takes to get to those levels. Meaning the heart, kidney, liver etc. The fact that strongmen require CPAP machines to avoid serious side effects once higher sizes are achieved, is an indication of artificially surpassing natural limits. Along with new equipment, nutrition, rehabilitation/rest options, pharmaceutical, and even eventually DNA modification. That's where it's going to stop once all these options are exhausted.
In our current form we're near the ceiling, this milque-toast fantasy "if you just train or believe hard enough!" Is absolute cringe intellectual denialism at best. To surpass our current numbers in large meaningful ways i.e: the average "man" can now lift a car we need what you said, drastic DNA modification to an unrecognisable degree. Sci-Fi shit, we wouldn't even look like homosapiens anymore.
CyberPunk soldiers won't happen cuz Terminator robots are easier to produce at scale. The military really really really wanted em and I even worked on some caloric research with them but the same reason they ditched the dolphin kamikaze idea for better torpedoes we'll have robots instead of biomods unless its for personal consumerism imo.
@@morsumbra9692Cyberpunk soldiers won't happen *at scale.* but even with the advent of mass production death robots you'd still have a few human cyborgs running around for things that require that special touch. Sometimes you just need a couple of fellas to get in an out. The solution to all strategic issues is not massed arms.
@@adamplentl5588 I could totally see it. Maybe as a phase, maybe as the unique wetworkers. Maybe even as the weakness of the robots as we've seen cardboard kamikaze drones are more effective than jets in unique instances.
The limit is determined largely by biology and anatomy. That's the long and short of it. We're not built like gorillas. Even if we could theoretically increase muscle mass and muscle fibers by limiting myostatin, there is still our bone structure to contend with. Again we're not built like gorillas, who have both the muscle and bone structure to exert much force. The only way we can equal or surpass gorillas is to practically build a man from the ground up to be like one--that would require a lot of genetic manipulation, and I don't think we're at that level yet to create a super soldier like Steve Rogers.
As someone in no way involved in the fitness/lifting community, but has an immense interest in biology and morphology, this video was incredibly interesting and I learned a lot of cool new stuff. Thank you very much!
As someone who loves your cat avatar, and also shARES the same interest, let me give you some virtual pecan pie, sir/ma'am/they/them/goat-fiend, whatever your b inary or non-binary, you look like you would enjoy some pecan pie.
@@TheBoxingCannabyte I'm sure your enthusiasm comes from a genuine place, but uh... dial it back a bit. Sometimes allies can be more embarrassing than those of us who are aggressively stereotypical.
Thanks for doing this, a lot people don't appreciate the factors that go into strength. One of the prime examples in nature are bears. They have short limbs and bodies that are arched. This makes it so they have far better leverage for swipes and wrestling. Even with the same muscle mass as a human, their force generation is higher along certain axis than we can generate. It's useful to remember that strength is more complex than people realize.
Alexander I am not a lifter and am not interested in it. But my hat is off to you for your presentation and thoroughness. Your topic-building, timing, subject breakdown, and analytic compliment make for a top-notch educator. I hope the people watching this understand the time, attention and genuine professionalism you put into this video. Thanks.
My exact thoughts. The video has the ability to keep somebody in there not really aiming to use it for self goal. That is a winning content creator. If this guy was a stock, the call is long him.
So true. It was very researched, very detailed and crystal clear explained, as well as so well video edited. Better than any documentary I have seen so far on this subject matter. Hat off for the tons of work that went into this!
@@jasonalen7459 Yeah they all try to mask their creepiness with "professionalism". Anyone with half a brain cell knows it's at least 50 percent sexual lmao. Running your hands all over a strangers body with oil is a scummy and degrading job. Would never lower myself.
I've never seen anyone address the issue of attachment points before, which always surprised me. It seems feasible (in theory) to surgically modify the bone for increased leverage. A wider epiphysis or carefully grafted sesmoid bone would increase the moment arm and thus total strength.
@JustSomeGuy69420 lol not that extreme, but apes do have lower attachment points. But the biggest improvement would come from wider epiphysis and sesmoid bones
pretty sure some armwrestlers who tore their biceps did something like that already with some minor success. They basically let surgeons optimize the attachment points.
Baseball has a common surgery for this called the Tommy John Surgery to make pitching faster. A few crazy scientists also did a lot of research about doing it to the gastroc to run faster like cheetahs. Eventually we'll have CyberPunk soldiers with biomodifications and steroids
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
I started lifting when I was 47 and I'm 50 now when I started I hadn't worked out since I was 26 but I already had pretty jacked shoulders and I believe it was my job...I built fences, swinging a pick ax and using post hole diggers for 20 years which leads me to say consistency is key
ive been lifting for 5 years but ive seen my best shoulder and arm gains so far in just the last few months after starting a hard labour job, all the cardio has made me leaner too while maintaining my muscle and gaining strength. fuck office jobs
Yes - that have indeed helped some. If your goal is to build strength, working is quite inefficient, compared to how much time you spend on it though. Strength is built most effiently by putting maximum effort for shorter periods and resting - not by doing "low intensity work out" for like 8 hour, 5 days a week. You sometimes also get the problem of building uneven strength. Work that requires both strength and precision is the worst. That's where we see people with totally skewed strength, like for example the grip strength being 20% higher in the dominant hand, than the other. But work can still build quite a bit of strength under the right conditions - and in any case, it's way better than being a couch potato.
Would personally love a deep dive on ancient human strength and methods available to them at the time, and what limits would come from that. Could be interesting. Anyway, great video.
@@MF-kr4hfapart from the hard access to great food and the work not being about building fitness but meeting a quota so they worked only exactly enough as they needed to to get that day’s calories and shelter
@@MF-kr4hfyeah but resources were much scarcer so they didn't always get a ton of protein, most of hunting entailed long distance pursuits so they're mainly doing cardio rather than weight training, and also they didn't have access to spotify playlists to motivate them which are all factors that may limit them
Excellent video. Well researched, well spoken, well edited. Much like our collective deadlifts, Bromley's video quality has definitely gone up over the years.
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
@@roncaruso931 I'm not sure you're replying to the correct comment. I wasn't talking about any specific lifters and ofc they're on PEDs - the point is to see what the human body is capable of, not go full natty.
I'm a mechanical engineer. I'm working on a power generator to make one of these exosuits you're talking about. The limiting factor for power armor, currently, is energy density. Exosuits work but require a lot of power/energy. Consequently, they can only run for very short time periods. Batteries don't have the energy density, and oil has the energy density but current generation ICE engines that are sufficiently efficient enough to power them can't be downscaled to fit on or in a suit. This challenge will eventually be overcome, potentially very soon. That being said, being athletic and in shape won't go away. If you can lift a thousand pounds, an exosuit will simply add how much you can lift. Remember, hydraulic pumps and rams also have limitations as well. When they are stressed to their limits, it will require additional strength from the guy piloting the suit. And unlike humans, hydraulic pumps and rams are unable to push past their limits. Their engineered limits are absolute and known.
I've thought about the problem in terms of size and capability to move such a suit. I have an idea of using a 2-stroke engine with a fuel pump that turns a small electric generator that has a capacitor and battery to smooth out and make power delivery more consistent. Probably not a very good idea but eh, it's another idea.
@@magicmallet5800 Thats basically what I'm doing, but I have a very special 2T engine made specifically for the job. Hydraulic pump on one side, electric generator on the other.
@@magicmallet5800 The only real problem I see with that idea is having 2-stroke exhaust following you around all day. I’m sure there’s a solution out there, but it’s going to require a lot of refinement.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 very true. That would be a problem and thus require the suit be sealed, which wouldn't be too bad a thing. You could also use propane or some other clean burning gas like they use in the floor polishers at the store I work at. They use a 4 stroke vertical shift v-twin engine for it but the fumes are minimal despite its size. That could work I believe, though even then there would be SOME fumes.
Ive always wondered how strong Andre the giant coukd have been if he'd taken loads of gear and trained accordingly. His totals would have been unbeatable
i think you, and this video, are missing an important factor. the human organs have to be able to support a a high performance body like that, and those organs already struggle in these obscenely strong 400 lb men. if a guy like andre the giant took PEDs, he very likely would have died from heart complications even earlier than he did.
@@g.dalfleblanc63 In fairness, his death was because his genetic condition was progressive. Higher stresses might have pushed him to his breaking point earlier, but the impact of going on gear until his numbers started dropping then giving it up permanently would likely be fairly minor. You look at pictures of Andre at 20 and it's night and day compared with his misshapen face in the final years.
@@buck_X He died of heart failure. He is the last person to be taking tons of gear. You look at personal medical information but you also look at family history. I'm average height no heart conditions but my Dad died of a stroke at 68, he survived a heart attack in his 40s and then a stroke in his early 50s. That's information which tells me not to touch gear. Gear is not even necessary for the best athletic performance, take Usain Bolt.
Absolutely phenomenal video!!! I don’t think most people have any idea what it takes to put something like this together. As a gym owner, personal trainer, power lifter and scholar that’s been obsessed with this sport for 34 years and has read everything strength, nutrition and bodybuilding I could gt my hands on for as long as I can remember and I’m now working on creating my own TH-cam channel, I have the utmost respect for you. Very cool video! 5 star, perfect 10! Keep up the great work! 👌
Nice! I have studied fitness, strengh, powerlifting and bodybuilding for 30 years. I've seen the human body do things that everyone claims isn't possible, most done in prison, bad food, no supplements or drugs, just time, repetitive training, and incredibly high stress levels. Honestly, there are men in prisons across the USA, I'm sure other places as well, that can smash the current records in almost every weight class, all clean with no anabolic drugs. I myself cane home after 14 years and could out lift and train longer and harder then anyone in the gyms, many far bigger and more muscler then myself. I don't have great genetics , I'm not big, and even now at 44 years old, I can still lift more then other mem half my age, although I'm not capable of what I once was. I'd love some serious research into why this happens , how its possible, because I was FAR from the strongest guy in there, not even close to mamy of the men, and if we can find out what that factor is, we can enhance training and give more natural athletes an advantage. The fitness community talks at times about the builds that come out of prison, but no one has actually done research, bloodwork, mental edge or any other real dive into why or how this is possible. If the powerlifting records from these places were actually researched, most records would definitely be held by incarcerated men, maybe thats why, idk, but it's worth the research for the next generation of lifters to tap into this, and maybe keep the ped use down.
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Been working out for 4 years regularly attempting to progressively overload, but I plateau after just 1 year. I actually start to get weaker, every time I hit that “ceiling”. I look like the guy in the video who represents the average guy after two months of training. I actually have the worst genetics
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
I'm 68 and back in the gym. I agree, the scaffolding of bones, tendons and ligaments are first and foremost. I'm lifting linear progression and so for so good. Enough lean muscle mass is MY goal, NOT the most.💪🙏
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Yeah, I applaud for this. Every now and then as I’m approaching a 1rm I think about “what if this is when my shit pops”. Keeps me a bit realistic. It’s good for people to understand the risk
I have always had a very thin build. 6'3" and 165 lbs back in HS. I had one of those miracle strength incidents. A friend who was on the football team asked me to spot him (bad idea since I didn't know what that meant. He was trying to press 300lbs. It ended up on his face. I stepped over him, lifted it off his face and threw it aside. Moments later after the adrenaline was gone, I couldn't lift that for the life of me. Not a car I know, but more than this skinny kid should have been able to lift.
Varangians(Vikings who ended up working as royal guards in Constantinople) were said to have something called "The Varangian war dance". In which they basically worked themselves up into a frenzy. Where they would exhibit unusual strength for a while. And afterwards. They typically needed some rest days. Basically they purposefully activated that high adrenaline state so that none of their muscles would hold back.
8:17 While we cant run as fast as any other animal on the planet, we can sprint for far longer than vast majority of animals. Thanks to our ability to sweat, and the endurance of our muscles.
One thing I found EHHH was the "mom lifting a car" segment. From what I've read in the small amount of literature I have read is that it "does" happen but it only happens in so far as it allows one to go beyond the governor you previously talked about, not beyond your actual physical strength. Like you also explained, trained individuals' governors are at a much higher % of their physical max than untrained but things like adrenaline, cortisol and others do play a roll in removing that safety limit, but again neither you nor your body can escape your actual strength limits.
You can through a catastrophic tonic-clonic seizure, but I'll give that that doesn't really count as what you had in mind. It isn't rare for otherwise average people to break all kinds of stuff unleashing an ungodly amount of kinetic energy whilst seizing.
In healthy humans both musculus quardiceps and soleus are strong enough to easily tear their connective tendon from bone. The feequency of torn achilles injuries in performance sports is proof enough. Musculus biceps and triceps brachii not necessearly so, but they can be traind to the point they are. The limits exist not to let us have an anime powerup when we get scared or angry. They exist to stop us from tearing our musculature apart.
10:36 absolutely true. I was very, very overweight (around 160kg) 2 years ago. I lost lots of it, and found that my joints were not in great condition. My muscles had been primed to carry and pull huge amounts (160kg (90kg bodyweight + 70kg added)+ pullups, dips, muscle ups etc. with next to no training, easily. But, within weeks of hitting these numbers quite quickly after I had lost weight, my tendons and joints were knackered. It's been about a year since I started calisthenics, and I still haven't gone back to those numbers. I can, but it's just plain stupid until my frame catches up.
As a former gymnast, I have always wondered where the limit is on the rings in terms of static strength parts. Over the years, I have always seen new exercise parts that I previously considered unthinkable. Thanks to the latest technology as well as good nutritional science, one is now able to perform the unthinkable. who knows what will come in the distant future. bones will probably still break, but maybe you can make them grow thicker. That was a very interesting and informative video. Thank you and greetings 😉
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Regarding the point on the bones: That will, of course, probably bring other disadvantages. As a person would be denser, they might not be able to swim as well. And on a more serious note, if bones are more dense, perhaps the bone marrow may become less efficient at producing the required blood cells.
@@roncaruso931 A 1700 lbs squat is impossible as of right now, let alone without PEDs or drugs, LOL. How naive are you? I have seen you comment this nonsense several times. You claim all strongmen, athletes etc. are on steroids and that is true for 99% of them, perhaps 100%, but somehow Mr. Paul Anderson outlifts every modern non equipped squat record (done by people on PEDs)? Funny.
@LetHimRead You need to get a life. Obviously, you are very interested in my comments. Paul Anderson NEVER used roids or PEDs. In fact, PEDs were not invented when he was alive. He was born very strong. Anderson is said to have backlifted 6,270 pounds in 1957, which was listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the greatest weight ever lifted by a human.
Absolutely amazing analysis. Knowledgeable, calm, collected, with an interesting outlook into the future. This is the first video i saw on your channel, and it absolutely makes me excited to check out your others. Very nice work, thank you!
This is the most interesting and sensical explanation to how muscles work and understanding human limits that I've ever seen. Clean and concise explanations that a non-weightlifter such as I can understand. Awesome!
There was a discovery channel show or something similar about incredible human feats a few years ago, I wish I could remember it. But some guy ended up getting crushed under a stone and sliding towards a cliff or something like that, and he lifted the stone off to free himself, which was the incredible feat because it was ginormous. It was one of those "she lifted the car" adrenaline strength stories. Anyway I'm talking about it because it completely crippled him, like both his biceps blew off, broken ribs, fractured his spine and ruptured every tendon in his body. He had to lie there crippled till someone found him. Good example of the psychological safety limit you were talking about and the consequences of being able to override it.
@@EpsilonCobra I'm not sure if you're trolling but it definitely wasn't fake and I was saying it as further evidence of Bromley's point about the woman never lifting the car. If you are ever able to "adrenaline" yourself beyond your normal psychological limits it would be physically catastrophic.
i always thought the premise was "the adrenaline reduced her muscle preservation and she lifted the corner a few inches long enough to get help." never thought it was a hidden power, always thought it was the body saying "not succeeding is not an option, full send"
it just removes pain and fear from the equation. the pain you feel when you overexert your muscles and the fear of getting hurt are what usually limits what an average human can do, you throw those things out the window and suddenly you see yourself doing things you thought impossible.
Adrenaline forces the body to intake more oxygen, the heart to pump faster, and increases blood flow to muscle tissue while restricting it to places like the digestive tract. It does make you temporarily stronger. Because its a fight or flight survival response. Of course it doesn't turn you into the hulk. The limiter is still there. So is the fear since its literally a fear response designed to give you a boost to remove whatever threat is causing the response. But it does make you stronger for a short period.@@windhelmguard5295
i always did find it interesting that smaller frames, with more refined musculature, can move around the same weight as a big frame with bulky musculature, if not more weight without much more issue than the other.
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Oh man! I’m so happy that I found this channel. These are truly the deep dives the young guys need to hear to make the most of their most formative years. The video about the history of bodybuilding is so spot on. Arnold was such a big deal to me and just about everyone else I know inspired to do the same. Great content. Expect to hear lots from me.
I’ve been the same weight for the past 3 years and always wondered what i was missing. i’m not someone looking to get big but this helps with everything i thought i knew about human anatomy. loved this video!!
I was like that in high school. I weighed 130 and had been lifting weights since seventh grade. I couldn't gain an ounce of size but gained lots of strength. Then after I joined the Army and could eat all I wanted with no limit, I STILL didn't gain an ounce, just more strength. Then I turned 30, everything changed. I shot up in size in a matter of a couple years, I shot up to 200 lbs. and was strong A.F. But I slowed down a lot and my metabolism did as well and now it takes forever to lose a pound of weight when I couldn't gain it for anything before. Trust me, your metabolism will slow down if you are young, and by what you said, I'm just about sure you are young, early 20s at most, right?
Informative, engaging and thought provoking! Very well put together video, as a physiotherapist i will recommend this to my juniors, students of anatomy and everyone who is athlete, active in workout, gym coach etc. keep up the good work mate.
I KNEW DON ROEINHOUDT WELL. HE USED TO WORK OUT AT OLYMPIC COACH LARRY BARNHOTH'S GYM IN AKRON,OHIO. AT THAT TIME HE WAS NOT AS LARGE AS YOU SEE HIM IN THE PHOTO, HE WEIGHED 280 AND I REMEMBER HIM PRESSING 300. HE TOLD ME HE DID NOT PRACTICE THE PRESS A LOT. A LITTLE LATER HE MARRIED CINDY ? WHO WAS ALSO A GREAT ATHLETE. THOSE WERE THE TIMES.THROUGH LARRY I MET MANY GREAT OLYMPIC LIFTERS AND BODYBUILDERS. JOHN GRIMEK , RICK HOLBROOK,PHIL GRIPPALDI, BOB HOFFMAN, AND OTHERS. I REMEMBER I WAS ALLOWED BEHIND THE STAGE AT THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS AND WAS THE SECOND PERSON TO CONGRATULATE ALEXEEV AFTER THE FIRST 500 LB CLEAN AND JERK. THOSE WERE THE DAYS. I WAS 18-23 THEN NOW I AM 76,
About the whole super strength during extreme stress thing. There was one time that I got really angry and ripped a nylon rope clean in half as a teenager. That rope was rated for over 500 pounds, and I tore it in front of my chest horizontally. This injured my shoulders, upper back, and hands badly enough that I couldn't use them properly for a week, but it still worked in the moment. So I think there is some validity to that whole thing. For reference, I normally couldn't rip anything close to that in that same time period. Like, my limit was closer to 100 pounds.
I was going to ask you what gender you were because apparently it's a lot more common among females but i went onto your channel to see instead and i watched your gangsta video.... and more questions were answered than i was asking
well as regards 'moving cars' me and my cousin did put my friends car between 2 trees for a laugh. But we were both young(at the time) and fit and very large men - both played rugby, me for college, him professionally for the Sheffield eagles and I was a Judo blackbelt. Id say we lifted about 700 lbs between us, it was a small car, so the idea of parents moving cars off kids etc is not a problem for me, bearing in mind that modern and particularly European cars are a LOT lighter than an Impala! Hell i've seen my (at the time) middle aged mum pick up a 300 lb man in a medical emergency - but she was trained to lift bodies due to her profession. Regarding the mental discipline, I can say that this is something I have researched a lot in my life - as a pro fighter psyching my self up was normal, but as some one that has delved into the spiritual and mental disciplines associated with martial arts, meditation can absolutely lead to unlocking those natural protective barriers that the body has in place to prevent damaging itself. As a now middle aged/older gent that is living with disability from military service ( and a lifetime of combat sports) I can also state that these same techniques I learned then enable me to get by now - to ignore pain, to force my body to move. further more that the good musculature can compensate for damaged bone and joints. I have lost track of the number of medical professionals that have told me they cant understand how I can walk at all - that I should be in a wheel chair.. but I get by walking with a stick
This video was exceptionally done well. I am watching it later again with my gf who is also into lifting and sport performance. Absolutely masterpiece in information, presentation and editing! Keep up the great work!
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Sage. Never wanted to bulk to where I'd need to be a powerlifter. Hover around 200 and I'm 5'11. Not a gym rat. Put up 280, and while that's not super. It meets my functional goals. Mad respect for the behemoths in this video. Can't imagine the discipline and motivation required to get there
This is the most complete, most scientific and most honest discussion on this topic that I've ever come across. After viewing this video, I think you left out the title you should be given: Doctor of Exercise.......Alexander Bromley D.E. You are the most knowledgeable person I know of on this this, and this includes my college professors, all of whom can certainly learn from you. In researching material for my Master's thesis("The Effect of Canned Tuna as a Nutritional Supplement on the Physique Enhancement of Individuals Engaged in Intense Weight Training") in human nutrition, I have to agree with all that you said concerning scientific research in this realm of study. As for my background to validate what I have stated above, I am a 78 year old "natural for life" bodybuilder who has been lifting for 60 years. I have trained in a "hardcore" gym whose members were powerlifters and bodybuilders, the vast majority of whom were "on the juice". I am a retired teacher having taught biology, chemistry and human anatomy & physiology for 38 years. I have won bodybuilding titles on the regional and national level both in "tested" and "untested" contests. P.S. I am dyslexic. So please excuse any typos.
I’m sorry but that video of the guy squatting around 21:30 give or take 10ish seconds (I really don’t want to go back and watch it again)… THAT is my worst nightmare. I am hesitant to use a squat rack because of that. I generally only squat with body weight or some kettle bells. It works for me, but I know I’ll never be that super strong, but I’m okay with that.
It’s funny that they accidentally made Batman pretty realistic before they knew how strong humans could be, I think I read he could bench like 500 and squat 1000, which is completely feasible, the only fantastical part is how lean he stays while doing these things
I only watched half of this video and my brain already hurts. In a good way! You already answered so many of my questions!! What an awesome video. This is going in my favorites.
And people tends to underestimate human strength for basic aplications unfortunately, even wealthy young men ! I often have to show my mechanic employee that he can lift things like a gerbox by it's own and not have to ask for help, him or others thinks it's way to heavy. People also look at me with round eyes whenever I lift something like a 60 liters (62.5 kg) barrel of motor oil from ground to my chest and walk carrying it a few meters to store it... Come on ! It's just nothing, but we live in a very " Soft people " era sadly where normal strengh gets confused with heavy duty capabilities.
Really broad, comprehensive video dealing with a lot of topics in a factual, eloquent and clearly well researched way. I have no interest in weight lifting, but I've liked the vid and will recommend a few of my friends to watch it :)
15:33 is an interesting one. Before going to highschool I was doing wrestling time to time which requires type 2 fibers. In highschool I started swimming and my endurance increased a lot. I was way active than how I was before hs. Then one day, in hs 2nd grade I tried to wrestle an old friend from wrestling days. He beat me so bad, and I was suprised that I was doing worse after an phisically active year. This video helps me understand how I lost power by doing an endurance sport.
5:11 The frame inserted of Des'tiny' is pretty hilarious. The guy is known for being short though he is 5'8 but he's still kinda skinny and he hunches over constantly so he looks four inches shorter.
For a while I hired a trainer for powerlifting. He said a friend who is also an elite lifter was told by a doctor that his bone density was the same as a gorilla's. Not sure if the doctor was using hyperbole, but it would be interesting to know how much stronger human bones can get through strength training. I suppose there's some increase in diameter, as well.
There is indeed increase in diameter, especially with "young-like" developmental pattern/ability. The density is several times average. I remember John Broz, who was a wightlifitng trainer greatly influenced by Bulgarians, has said that his lifter Pat Mendes, a 20 yo. 10 yrs ago(ha), had his hip socket density at 6 times average, and other loaded places at around 4 times, and the rest of the skeleton at around 2.3 -.7, the least mineralized bones perhaps even lower, mybe? at the lowest, I believe.. The maximum is around 10-12 times for bone. Those who get hit a lot have much greater density at the impact sites. The other animals train and aren´t as fickle and in their heads as we. We still have the means to become very much like them. You can be 2 different people of very wildly different heights and looks/health, depending on how you live, and save yourself, or push against your deficiencies/weaknesses.
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Man, what an awesome video! You debunked a load of myths with facts, dove deep into the science of the human body AND mind, and nailed it with the lady lifting the car thing. One of the most informative and interesting videos I’ve seen in quite some time. Subscribing now!
The better we know about how our current limits work, the more easily we will be able to attempt to exceed those limits using genetic modification. I applaud your efforts sir.
I believe the person that you're looking for to test out the upper limits of human strength was a man who lived in the late 19th century. His name was Angus MacAskill he was 7'9" tall and he didn't have giantism/acromegaly so he was "normal" or "proportional" at that size. Meaning his frame was absolutely massive, his chest was 80" and he wasn't considered super muscular but he wasn't obese... Again just "normal ", as normal as a 7'9" 510# man can be.
After checking my sources... It depends on where you get your information as to his weight... Some places say 425lbs some say 475... Some say 510. Regardless he was an absolute mountain of a man with hands that were over a half a foot wide and a foot long.
Agreed, What an amazing man he was. He was capable of some amazing feats of strength, back then. Imagine what he could do today with modern techniques!
@@shepchester3567 exactly. Assuming anything from back then can be trusted he was insanely strong just naturally living his life. If he would have actually trained and attempted to get as strong as possible I doubt anyone would be able to get anywhere near his lifts. It makes me wonder how strong he would have been if he was brought to modern times at let's say 15 and trained for Strongman/powerlifting with all the modern drugs and stuff to increase it. He could probably get to a bulky 700 lbs and not be all that fat
@@alexeidenier4072 You're assuming that he was like that without physical exercise. I guarantee you nobody, no matter how wicked genetics, becomes that strong and large without living physically demanding life
I'm not a weight lifter at all, nor do I wish to be but I just want to say that you have a really good channel. I stayed tuned in and I honestly do not care at all about weight lifting. Good job, brother.
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head! Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Thanks Alex. It is genetics. Not just size and cardio, but ability to absorb nutrients, and recover, heal. I also liked your comment about find what you like and do it long enough. You hone it, and can be very satified with results, without competing. Screw competition. Totally vain.
I’d like to see a second video on the limits of strength for things like jumping that take a totally different physicality (as you mentioned). And maybe a third on endurance?
Assuming air resistance based on the shape of your body is negligible, jumping is basically maximising the takeoff speed, and reducing the aerial deceleration. Less mass means you're able to accelerate more before takeoff, but it means less muscle to use push off the ground, so there's tradeoff there that probably be experimented with. Longer limbs mean you have more time to accelerate before takeoff as you extend your legs and you have more arms to swing upward to accelerate the average speed of your body. It mainly comes down to building strength in the arms and legs, legs because they are what push the body off the ground, arms because the stronger your arms are, the faster you can accelerate them upward which will increase your body's average takeoff speed, the heavier your arms are the more of your body you're accelerating by swinging them, but the less you're able to accelerate them so a high strength to weight ratio of the arms would be good. Ensuring your core muscles are strong enough is also good because they can keep the body stable to maximise the efficiency of the jump. Since strength to weight ratio should be high, building strength without much muscle is important (the opposite of the strength in this video) so don't eat too much and focus more on working out with high intensity but don't overdo it. Muscle is built through frequent training but you want to train your nervous system to get as much strength (hence high intensity) out of as little muscle (less frequent) as possible. It's worth experimenting what the ideal amount of muscle is for the best strength to weight ratio for jumping (theoretically it could probably be calculated but i can't be bothered to the maths right now). It's also really important to work on tendon strength (most notably the achilles tendon) because they aren't as big as muscles but due to their nature they are much more explosive than muscles (which is obviously important for increasing the acceleration before takeoff). To make tendons springier plyometrics are good and high intensity weights or calisthenics also give the tendons a good workout since your nervous system learns to draw on every aspect of strength it has in muscles or tendons. Just don't do bodybuilding designed workouts like isolating the muscle because that will leave your muscle stronger than the tendon can practically support so you could injure the tendon. I think tendon stiffness is different to tendon strength and while stiffness (improved with plyometrics) makes the tendons springier, it leaves the tendon vulnerable to injury i heard but I'm not too sure (that's worth researching), so doing tendon strengthening exercises would be helpful. To summarise, don't eat too much or follow body-building regimes, hypertrophy is mostly bad for reducing weight but there's a necessary amount to improve strength, strength to weight ratio is key (calisthenics are good for this), long limbs are good, legs are key but arm-driving and body stability is also important, improving muscle strength is important but so is tendon stiffness (plyometrics). I should say i am far from an expert in this field so this is quite high level but it should provide a good starting point using what i do know, if you had the time to read all of this.
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Man I saw the thumbnail and I realized…as I get deeper into the strength building rabbit hole, I have a newfound respect for the gorilla…they truly are the master primates in terms of raw strength. Their anatomical and anthropometric proportions are perfect. Plus they have exceptional bone density. Evolution really showed us what it can do in different directions. They are peak in strength, what we are in cognition and intelligence. Same original ancestor, completely different products. Yet they still retain some intelligence, and a lot more than lower chordates.
As someone who's fallen down the Bigfoot rabbit hole often and deep enough that I'm convinced that they at least used to exist if not still do, I've also reached these conclusions about our fellow Apes. Humanity min-max'd for tool use and large social structures at the cost of nearly every form of natural weapon and defense.
Bro it's 2023 not 1923, evolution is pseudo science, it's pretending rationality comes from irrationality which makes evolution a mythology of magic. Mindless matter and mutation can't manifest code. Far less all the other issues it has.
8:55 Dont knock the coolness of the persistence hunting model.....the idea that a primevsl hjman could pursue prey even stronger prey until it was exhausted is pretty metal
I remember how in the Spiderman cartoon on FoxKids, the spider was surprised that he could lift a car. These guys practically do it. So it actually makes sense that in the cartoon, Kingpin gave Spiderman such a hard time despite being an ordinary human
Didn't know this channel, I kind of watched this on a whim, thinking it would be some brute force records listing. There was indeed some of that but you went so much further and with very precise and interesting scientific approach. I thoroughly enjoyed your video and learned a ton. A gorilla thank you to you!
19:47 she obviously only lifted one side of the car, so just 1,647.5 lbs, or about 748 kg. However, she only lifted it of about 4 inches, which is around 0.1 meter. With these values we can estimate the energy she deployed to perform this feat : E = m*g*h E = 748*9.81*0.1 E ≈ 734 J If you do the maths : 734 = m*g*h 734 = m*9.81*1 m ≈ 75 kg That's equivalent to lifting 75 kg 1 meter off of the ground, or about 75 newtons of force. That's coherent considering how the energy we calculated (734 joules) is a bit more than the amount of energy needed to crush a cardboard box.
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And you said it's a parlor trick for you guys to lift a car well it may be a parlor trick for you guys but for in every day woman it's pretty crazy and also how do you know she didn't lift the car 4 inches where you there did you see it
@@calebworden2993 good god I hope you are never on a jury.
How can you say something didn't happen if you didn't see I wouldn't say did and then Wednesday didn't cuz I don't have any certain permission to know
And yeah they're going to be stupid people who do stupid things but you don't discount what everybody says because of some stupid people that seems to be your whole reasoning for why you don't believe this lady because what does lady said people are doing dumb things that's not the fault of lady that's the fault of the dumb people
I will no longer refer to myself as fat, I'll forever be "heavily marbled"
Thank you, Alex.
That was one of my main takeaways too LOL
Ok, chub.
Hard fat
You shouldn’t be content with being obese.
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I think the "endurance thing" is glossed over and overlooked. Primitive humans with the capacity to communicate advanced tactics and their incredible endurance were nightmare fuel. Imagine you're a gorilla...yeah you can beatdown anything. One on one. And most other animals attacked one at a time or if they did come in groups, they could easily be scared away or would give up if there seemed to be a long battle ahead because of the caloric requirements would outweigh the need to fight that long for food. But here come those damn humans again...tools/spears in hand. They don't scare as easy and only peer at you from a distance as you try and scurry away from the large group of them. You run over a hill, your gorilla heart moving your massive frame. No worries, most animals would give up by now. You turn around...all 20 peering from around trees. On and on...until you're so exhausted all you can do is snarl and growl and they start closing in, throwing spears and darting away.
Most people don't realize that even modern day marathoners can easily outrun a horse for distance over a day.
Great point. I once heard someone (i think it was a biologist, but im not certain there) refer to it as the same level of horror that a zombie horde would give a human. It was in the context of most mammals being four-legged and furry. With their four legs, they could easily outperform humans in terms of speed and acceleration. But - just like a horde of zombies - the humans would never stop chasing you. They cant sprint up to you by matching your speed, but whenever you would stop to rest (and most importantly, cool back down, since most animals actually have to rest to regulate body temperature back down, rather than being 100% exhausted muscle-wise), they are still running after you.
You cant loose them easily, since their human eyes can see you at distance, and their upright way of walking means they can see above the gras/vegetation. They dont overheat like you do, since they have less fur and have a built-in cooling system (sweating). And their intelligence and social proclivity makes it almost impossible to scare them off when they are in a group. Eventually, you WILL have to rest, and by the time you would be recovered, they have already reached you....
Nature is terrifying in a lot of ways, but i think a lot of people underestimate how terrifying our human ancestors had to be in order to conquer nature they way they ended up doing.
@@random.3665 damn right! also the fact that humans could hunt without projectiles, simply by chasing an animal to die of exhaustion, is insane. and then comes the fact that we can pretty precisely launch deadly projectiles MUUUUUUCH further than anything alive is also crazy. the strongest gorilla can throw a rock maybe 10-15m/33-50ft with abysmal precision.
Homo Sapiens are in a weird space. We were/are the most efficient hunters in the animal kingdom yet we're also the easiest prey animal. Most people don't like to think about it obviously, but many researchers gloss over the fact that homo sapiens were hunted by many different predators for eons because in the right circumstances we're actually quite easy to kill.
@@ObsidianRadioTrue, I can only imagine a reason a lot of animals don’t target us has nothing to do with how hard it would be and everything to do with fears of thing that won’t happen. We have incredibly unique advantages, but we’re not anywhere close to perfect at all.
@@ObsidianRadio Its one of the traits of being a social species.
One of us alone is easy prey. A group of our species is the most lethal hunting force on the planet.
I love how this video compared comic book characters with real life human lifters, discussed scientific subjects such as genetic and sexual dimorphism, and eventually ended on sci-fi-esque bionics and gene editing as possible solution to increase a human's upper limits. Great video. I'm truly impressed.
is it so scifi if we already able to breed and edit genes at animals to gain muscles like crazy ? (google belgian blue cow) myostatine blockers are insane.
and don't forget to add the morality of gene editing
Yeah there was a lot of thought put into this, I liked it a lot
scientific way uses kilograms not pounds but yeah cool stuff
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I think the human limit is actually determined by the ability of the body to tolerate mass, and the difficult/stressful road it takes to get to those levels. Meaning the heart, kidney, liver etc. The fact that strongmen require CPAP machines to avoid serious side effects once higher sizes are achieved, is an indication of artificially surpassing natural limits. Along with new equipment, nutrition, rehabilitation/rest options, pharmaceutical, and even eventually DNA modification. That's where it's going to stop once all these options are exhausted.
In our current form we're near the ceiling, this milque-toast fantasy "if you just train or believe hard enough!" Is absolute cringe intellectual denialism at best.
To surpass our current numbers in large meaningful ways i.e: the average "man" can now lift a car we need what you said, drastic DNA modification to an unrecognisable degree.
Sci-Fi shit, we wouldn't even look like homosapiens anymore.
CyberPunk soldiers won't happen cuz Terminator robots are easier to produce at scale. The military really really really wanted em and I even worked on some caloric research with them but the same reason they ditched the dolphin kamikaze idea for better torpedoes we'll have robots instead of biomods unless its for personal consumerism imo.
@@morsumbra9692Cyberpunk soldiers won't happen *at scale.* but even with the advent of mass production death robots you'd still have a few human cyborgs running around for things that require that special touch. Sometimes you just need a couple of fellas to get in an out. The solution to all strategic issues is not massed arms.
@@adamplentl5588 I could totally see it. Maybe as a phase, maybe as the unique wetworkers. Maybe even as the weakness of the robots as we've seen cardboard kamikaze drones are more effective than jets in unique instances.
The limit is determined largely by biology and anatomy. That's the long and short of it. We're not built like gorillas. Even if we could theoretically increase muscle mass and muscle fibers by limiting myostatin, there is still our bone structure to contend with. Again we're not built like gorillas, who have both the muscle and bone structure to exert much force. The only way we can equal or surpass gorillas is to practically build a man from the ground up to be like one--that would require a lot of genetic manipulation, and I don't think we're at that level yet to create a super soldier like Steve Rogers.
5:12 lost it when he said "this is an average male" and dropped a pic of destiny lmao
yeah lol
I had to do a double take because I thought I was tripping LOL!
He said whos Been in the gym for a year
@@voicesbyjwanjordan Also had to rewatch it. That was a great diss. Got a good laugh from it
Did not expect that haha
As someone in no way involved in the fitness/lifting community, but has an immense interest in biology and morphology, this video was incredibly interesting and I learned a lot of cool new stuff. Thank you very much!
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@@TheBoxingCannabyte I'm sure your enthusiasm comes from a genuine place, but uh... dial it back a bit. Sometimes allies can be more embarrassing than those of us who are aggressively stereotypical.
Now go exercise........thank you
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7:56 The chimp helping that man up the tree was just so wholesome.
Apes together strong
Yeah, especially for a chimp. I'm surprised it didn't deglove his arm and laugh while shredding through the fat and muscle tissue beneath.
@@bombardvark what a debbie downer
Thanks for doing this, a lot people don't appreciate the factors that go into strength. One of the prime examples in nature are bears. They have short limbs and bodies that are arched. This makes it so they have far better leverage for swipes and wrestling. Even with the same muscle mass as a human, their force generation is higher along certain axis than we can generate. It's useful to remember that strength is more complex than people realize.
No it’s not it’s called effort and roids.
It’s called steroids. Steroids go into it
@@IndependenOnesTV the hell are you talking about
@@IndependenOnesTV Go outside, get some sunshine, and pick up something heavy. Repeat.
@@IndependenOnesTV lift the bed you sleep on before you type something like this
Alexander I am not a lifter and am not interested in it. But my hat is off to you for your presentation and thoroughness. Your topic-building, timing, subject breakdown, and analytic compliment make for a top-notch educator. I hope the people watching this understand the time, attention and genuine professionalism you put into this video. Thanks.
My exact thoughts. The video has the ability to keep somebody in there not really aiming to use it for self goal. That is a winning content creator. If this guy was a stock, the call is long him.
So true. It was very researched, very detailed and crystal clear explained, as well as so well video edited. Better than any documentary I have seen so far on this subject matter. Hat off for the tons of work that went into this!
I'm a licensed massage therapist and it pleases me to see an accurate, technical breakdown of how muscles actually work. Well done!
Glorified protitute.
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@@thegael791 Ah yes, and life-drawing turns artists into glorified voyeurs.
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@@jasonalen7459 Yeah they all try to mask their creepiness with "professionalism". Anyone with half a brain cell knows it's at least 50 percent sexual lmao. Running your hands all over a strangers body with oil is a scummy and degrading job. Would never lower myself.
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I love this video. This is insane quality and packed with GOOD information. I appreciate this existing.
I've never seen anyone address the issue of attachment points before, which always surprised me. It seems feasible (in theory) to surgically modify the bone for increased leverage. A wider epiphysis or carefully grafted sesmoid bone would increase the moment arm and thus total strength.
Hell yeah. I'm gonna get my bicep tendon attached to the distal end of my radius, so i can hammer curl 300 pounds with my weird webbed arm.
@JustSomeGuy69420 lol not that extreme, but apes do have lower attachment points. But the biggest improvement would come from wider epiphysis and sesmoid bones
Oh please don’t give bodybuilders any ideas
pretty sure some armwrestlers who tore their biceps did something like that already with some minor success. They basically let surgeons optimize the attachment points.
Baseball has a common surgery for this called the Tommy John Surgery to make pitching faster.
A few crazy scientists also did a lot of research about doing it to the gastroc to run faster like cheetahs.
Eventually we'll have CyberPunk soldiers with biomodifications and steroids
This channel is a hidden gem! Alexander is an amazing narrator!
Great presentation and a phenomenal radio voice ❤
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
I started lifting when I was 47 and I'm 50 now when I started I hadn't worked out since I was 26 but I already had pretty jacked shoulders and I believe it was my job...I built fences, swinging a pick ax and using post hole diggers for 20 years which leads me to say consistency is key
why do you sound like a 12 yr
ive been lifting for 5 years but ive seen my best shoulder and arm gains so far in just the last few months after starting a hard labour job, all the cardio has made me leaner too while maintaining my muscle and gaining strength. fuck office jobs
You really are Kratos
Yes - that have indeed helped some.
If your goal is to build strength, working is quite inefficient, compared to how much time you spend on it though. Strength is built most effiently by putting maximum effort for shorter periods and resting - not by doing "low intensity work out" for like 8 hour, 5 days a week.
You sometimes also get the problem of building uneven strength. Work that requires both strength and precision is the worst. That's where we see people with totally skewed strength, like for example the grip strength being 20% higher in the dominant hand, than the other.
But work can still build quite a bit of strength under the right conditions - and in any case, it's way better than being a couch potato.
Probably explains why my shoulders were jacked but I still had man boobs, lol
Would personally love a deep dive on ancient human strength and methods available to them at the time, and what limits would come from that. Could be interesting. Anyway, great video.
They had to exercise all day every day, and ate unprocessed fats and foods, so they were as fit, healthy, and strong as possible, I'd imagine..
@@MF-kr4hfapart from the hard access to great food and the work not being about building fitness but meeting a quota so they worked only exactly enough as they needed to to get that day’s calories and shelter
@@MF-kr4hfyeah but resources were much scarcer so they didn't always get a ton of protein, most of hunting entailed long distance pursuits so they're mainly doing cardio rather than weight training, and also they didn't have access to spotify playlists to motivate them which are all factors that may limit them
@@MF-kr4hfThey were more efficient but not stronger than modern athletes.
@@al-imranadore1182 They hunted mammoths with sharpened sticks. Would love to see an athlete hunt a full grown elephant with a sharpened stick.
Excellent video. Well researched, well spoken, well edited.
Much like our collective deadlifts, Bromley's video quality has definitely gone up over the years.
In my opinion this is currently the best video, that cleans up a lot of nonsense and educates the right things.
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
@@roncaruso931 I'm not sure you're replying to the correct comment. I wasn't talking about any specific lifters and ofc they're on PEDs - the point is to see what the human body is capable of, not go full natty.
I'm a mechanical engineer. I'm working on a power generator to make one of these exosuits you're talking about. The limiting factor for power armor, currently, is energy density. Exosuits work but require a lot of power/energy. Consequently, they can only run for very short time periods. Batteries don't have the energy density, and oil has the energy density but current generation ICE engines that are sufficiently efficient enough to power them can't be downscaled to fit on or in a suit. This challenge will eventually be overcome, potentially very soon.
That being said, being athletic and in shape won't go away. If you can lift a thousand pounds, an exosuit will simply add how much you can lift. Remember, hydraulic pumps and rams also have limitations as well. When they are stressed to their limits, it will require additional strength from the guy piloting the suit. And unlike humans, hydraulic pumps and rams are unable to push past their limits. Their engineered limits are absolute and known.
I've thought about the problem in terms of size and capability to move such a suit. I have an idea of using a 2-stroke engine with a fuel pump that turns a small electric generator that has a capacitor and battery to smooth out and make power delivery more consistent. Probably not a very good idea but eh, it's another idea.
@@magicmallet5800 Thats basically what I'm doing, but I have a very special 2T engine made specifically for the job. Hydraulic pump on one side, electric generator on the other.
@@magicmallet5800 The only real problem I see with that idea is having 2-stroke exhaust following you around all day. I’m sure there’s a solution out there, but it’s going to require a lot of refinement.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 very true. That would be a problem and thus require the suit be sealed, which wouldn't be too bad a thing. You could also use propane or some other clean burning gas like they use in the floor polishers at the store I work at. They use a 4 stroke vertical shift v-twin engine for it but the fumes are minimal despite its size. That could work I believe, though even then there would be SOME fumes.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 I've solved the problem, the emissions on my prototypes are cleaner than a poppet valve 4T.
Grusome some of those clips you included of bone breaks and tendons going. I was not ready for that man!
Those people who broke bones and tendons were not ready for it either
Me too man, that shit scared me😂
I was just about to go to bed, guess I'll be watching this now instead
That one dude in the yellow shirt probably died
@@drewishgaminginc.3942 thank god, it's fake, i thought it was but i'm glad to confirm it th-cam.com/users/shortsqGGUhjd59Uw
That shot @ Destiny 5:15 gave me a sensible chuckle
Ive always wondered how strong Andre the giant coukd have been if he'd taken loads of gear and trained accordingly. His totals would have been unbeatable
i think you, and this video, are missing an important factor. the human organs have to be able to support a a high performance body like that, and those organs already struggle in these obscenely strong 400 lb men. if a guy like andre the giant took PEDs, he very likely would have died from heart complications even earlier than he did.
Dude he died in his 40s you wanted him dead by 30??
@@g.dalfleblanc63 In fairness, his death was because his genetic condition was progressive. Higher stresses might have pushed him to his breaking point earlier, but the impact of going on gear until his numbers started dropping then giving it up permanently would likely be fairly minor. You look at pictures of Andre at 20 and it's night and day compared with his misshapen face in the final years.
@@buck_X He died of heart failure. He is the last person to be taking tons of gear.
You look at personal medical information but you also look at family history.
I'm average height no heart conditions but my Dad died of a stroke at 68, he survived a heart attack in his 40s and then a stroke in his early 50s.
That's information which tells me not to touch gear.
Gear is not even necessary for the best athletic performance, take Usain Bolt.
i wouldnt be suprised if bolt was on gear@@g.dalfleblanc63
Absolutely phenomenal video!!!
I don’t think most people have any idea what it takes to put something like this together. As a gym owner, personal trainer, power lifter and scholar that’s been obsessed with this sport for 34 years and has read everything strength, nutrition and bodybuilding I could gt my hands on for as long as I can remember and I’m now working on creating my own TH-cam channel, I have the utmost respect for you.
Very cool video! 5 star, perfect 10!
Keep up the great work! 👌
Nice! I have studied fitness, strengh, powerlifting and bodybuilding for 30 years. I've seen the human body do things that everyone claims isn't possible, most done in prison, bad food, no supplements or drugs, just time, repetitive training, and incredibly high stress levels. Honestly, there are men in prisons across the USA, I'm sure other places as well, that can smash the current records in almost every weight class, all clean with no anabolic drugs. I myself cane home after 14 years and could out lift and train longer and harder then anyone in the gyms, many far bigger and more muscler then myself. I don't have great genetics , I'm not big, and even now at 44 years old, I can still lift more then other mem half my age, although I'm not capable of what I once was. I'd love some serious research into why this happens , how its possible, because I was FAR from the strongest guy in there, not even close to mamy of the men, and if we can find out what that factor is, we can enhance training and give more natural athletes an advantage. The fitness community talks at times about the builds that come out of prison, but no one has actually done research, bloodwork, mental edge or any other real dive into why or how this is possible. If the powerlifting records from these places were actually researched, most records would definitely be held by incarcerated men, maybe thats why, idk, but it's worth the research for the next generation of lifters to tap into this, and maybe keep the ped use down.
What is your opinion on Tongkat Ali and Fadogia Agrestis?
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Been working out for 4 years regularly attempting to progressively overload, but I plateau after just 1 year. I actually start to get weaker, every time I hit that “ceiling”. I look like the guy in the video who represents the average guy after two months of training. I actually have the worst genetics
@@breaknfiction21 Take some steroids or PEDs like the pros do.
Watching Lasha snatch 225kg and c&j 266kg is probably the most insane thing I have ever seen. He makes it look effortless.
fingers crossed that we see the 500kg total in the next couple of years
thank you for translating the video to european XD was lost with the pounds
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
@@roncaruso931 Literally every single athlete in top 1000 of every sport is on PEDs. You are delusional and know nothin about the subject.
@@roncaruso931 Yeah no shiet bro everyone knows.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU PUT THE SAME STEROIDS IN THE GORILA????
☠️☠️☠️
you get a gorilla saying Yeaahh buddy!!
You get the king, the goat, yeah buddy, light weight baby, Ronnie Coleman...
LIGHT WEIGHT
A study needs to be done with the gorilla given 2g of tren with every meal 5x a day
What can go wrong
I'm 68 and back in the gym. I agree, the scaffolding of bones, tendons and ligaments are first and foremost.
I'm lifting linear progression and so for so good.
Enough lean muscle mass is MY goal, NOT the most.💪🙏
You really showed all the muscle breaks and tendon snaps. I salute you
Yeah, stuff like 21:03 is usually what other TH-camrs would tell we shouldn't search for it lol
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
@@calamortaIt looks fake
@@calamorta that was brutal
Yeah, I applaud for this. Every now and then as I’m approaching a 1rm I think about “what if this is when my shit pops”. Keeps me a bit realistic. It’s good for people to understand the risk
I have always had a very thin build. 6'3" and 165 lbs back in HS. I had one of those miracle strength incidents. A friend who was on the football team asked me to spot him (bad idea since I didn't know what that meant. He was trying to press 300lbs. It ended up on his face. I stepped over him, lifted it off his face and threw it aside. Moments later after the adrenaline was gone, I couldn't lift that for the life of me. Not a car I know, but more than this skinny kid should have been able to lift.
Wow, you lifted 1/20th the world record, what a miracle.
@@SovereignStatesman HE Was a non lifting kid then u illiterate
@@SovereignStatesman It is relative strength, not peak strength. Your comment has no purpose other than showing your own arrogance.
@@SovereignStatesmanBad troll is bad. Go back to cave
Varangians(Vikings who ended up working as royal guards in Constantinople) were said to have something called "The Varangian war dance". In which they basically worked themselves up into a frenzy. Where they would exhibit unusual strength for a while. And afterwards. They typically needed some rest days. Basically they purposefully activated that high adrenaline state so that none of their muscles would hold back.
8:17 While we cant run as fast as any other animal on the planet, we can sprint for far longer than vast majority of animals. Thanks to our ability to sweat, and the endurance of our muscles.
Big fan Bromley. More theoretical please.
This video and this man’s sense of humor and the understated, almost monotone way in which it’s delivered are all amazing.
Love the nuanced way you tackled the topic, no bias or anything. Keep it up 👍
One thing I found EHHH was the "mom lifting a car" segment. From what I've read in the small amount of literature I have read is that it "does" happen but it only happens in so far as it allows one to go beyond the governor you previously talked about, not beyond your actual physical strength. Like you also explained, trained individuals' governors are at a much higher % of their physical max than untrained but things like adrenaline, cortisol and others do play a roll in removing that safety limit, but again neither you nor your body can escape your actual strength limits.
You can through a catastrophic tonic-clonic seizure, but I'll give that that doesn't really count as what you had in mind. It isn't rare for otherwise average people to break all kinds of stuff unleashing an ungodly amount of kinetic energy whilst seizing.
@@sloftyour bones limit us.
In healthy humans both musculus quardiceps and soleus are strong enough to easily tear their connective tendon from bone. The feequency of torn achilles injuries in performance sports is proof enough.
Musculus biceps and triceps brachii not necessearly so, but they can be traind to the point they are.
The limits exist not to let us have an anime powerup when we get scared or angry. They exist to stop us from tearing our musculature apart.
@@egoalter1276 If the lifting mechanism works properly our bones can support the dead weight of an average adult rhinoceros.
@@al-imranadore1182Bones, yes. Tendons and ligaments? No.
10:36 absolutely true.
I was very, very overweight (around 160kg) 2 years ago. I lost lots of it, and found that my joints were not in great condition. My muscles had been primed to carry and pull huge amounts (160kg (90kg bodyweight + 70kg added)+ pullups, dips, muscle ups etc. with next to no training, easily. But, within weeks of hitting these numbers quite quickly after I had lost weight, my tendons and joints were knackered. It's been about a year since I started calisthenics, and I still haven't gone back to those numbers. I can, but it's just plain stupid until my frame catches up.
Great deal of information. Lifelong study in 30 minutes. Very profound. Pragmatic , but profound. Congratulations!
johnjames2626
The Bromely standard. 🦾
As a former gymnast, I have always wondered where the limit is on the rings in terms of static strength parts. Over the years, I have always seen new exercise parts that I previously considered unthinkable. Thanks to the latest technology as well as good nutritional science, one is now able to perform the unthinkable. who knows what will come in the distant future. bones will probably still break, but maybe you can make them grow thicker. That was a very interesting and informative video. Thank you and greetings 😉
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
@@roncaruso931I doubt he was natural
Regarding the point on the bones: That will, of course, probably bring other disadvantages. As a person would be denser, they might not be able to swim as well. And on a more serious note, if bones are more dense, perhaps the bone marrow may become less efficient at producing the required blood cells.
@@roncaruso931 A 1700 lbs squat is impossible as of right now, let alone without PEDs or drugs, LOL. How naive are you? I have seen you comment this nonsense several times. You claim all strongmen, athletes etc. are on steroids and that is true for 99% of them, perhaps 100%, but somehow Mr. Paul Anderson outlifts every modern non equipped squat record (done by people on PEDs)? Funny.
@LetHimRead You need to get a life. Obviously, you are very interested in my comments. Paul Anderson NEVER used roids or PEDs. In fact, PEDs were not invented when he was alive. He was born very strong. Anderson is said to have backlifted 6,270 pounds in 1957, which was listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the greatest weight ever lifted by a human.
Absolutely amazing analysis. Knowledgeable, calm, collected, with an interesting outlook into the future. This is the first video i saw on your channel, and it absolutely makes me excited to check out your others. Very nice work, thank you!
21:02.... I WASNT READY FOR THAT!!! 😩😩😩
I haven't seen anyone fold like that!
was that even real ?!?!
Edited..🤣🤣
Watched 2nd time to confirm it...
This is the most interesting and sensical explanation to how muscles work and understanding human limits that I've ever seen. Clean and concise explanations that a non-weightlifter such as I can understand. Awesome!
I don't lift, I'm more of a cardio guy but every time you put out one of these types of videos I'm transfixed. Keep up the good work.
Kettlebell/jumproper guy here. The injuries in power lifting is something that I wouldn't like to deal with. It's still badass.
I always knew Marius was special, he was always my favourite lifter back when I still followed the sport.
There was a discovery channel show or something similar about incredible human feats a few years ago, I wish I could remember it. But some guy ended up getting crushed under a stone and sliding towards a cliff or something like that, and he lifted the stone off to free himself, which was the incredible feat because it was ginormous. It was one of those "she lifted the car" adrenaline strength stories. Anyway I'm talking about it because it completely crippled him, like both his biceps blew off, broken ribs, fractured his spine and ruptured every tendon in his body. He had to lie there crippled till someone found him. Good example of the psychological safety limit you were talking about and the consequences of being able to override it.
Did he recovered and lived a normal life after that??
So fake because it was proven the woman never lifted the car.
@@kashutosh9132 I'm not sure, someone also commented about it on the second video about lifting the car so they might know
@@EpsilonCobra I'm not sure if you're trolling but it definitely wasn't fake and I was saying it as further evidence of Bromley's point about the woman never lifting the car. If you are ever able to "adrenaline" yourself beyond your normal psychological limits it would be physically catastrophic.
That is why brains limits strength to not hurt the self's unless in dire situation
i always thought the premise was "the adrenaline reduced her muscle preservation and she lifted the corner a few inches long enough to get help." never thought it was a hidden power, always thought it was the body saying "not succeeding is not an option, full send"
it just removes pain and fear from the equation.
the pain you feel when you overexert your muscles and the fear of getting hurt are what usually limits what an average human can do, you throw those things out the window and suddenly you see yourself doing things you thought impossible.
@@windhelmguard5295 you throw these things out the window and in a house fire you throw yourself out the window
Adrenaline forces the body to intake more oxygen, the heart to pump faster, and increases blood flow to muscle tissue while restricting it to places like the digestive tract. It does make you temporarily stronger. Because its a fight or flight survival response. Of course it doesn't turn you into the hulk. The limiter is still there. So is the fear since its literally a fear response designed to give you a boost to remove whatever threat is causing the response. But it does make you stronger for a short period.@@windhelmguard5295
this was awesome. I never thought about the nervous system part. You made a great analogy with the governor and chimp.
Educational, informative, and thought-provoking. Quality.
i always did find it interesting that smaller frames, with more refined musculature, can move around the same weight as a big frame with bulky musculature, if not more weight without much more issue than the other.
I absolutely love how you break it down scientifically and also make it understandable to your entire audience. I’m now a new subscriber lol
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Bro this video is like insanely well edited and informative. I’m very impressed. Keep making content please.
Oh man! I’m so happy that I found this channel. These are truly the deep dives the young guys need to hear to make the most of their most formative years. The video about the history of bodybuilding is so spot on. Arnold was such a big deal to me and just about everyone else I know inspired to do the same. Great content. Expect to hear lots from me.
I’ve been the same weight for the past 3 years and always wondered what i was missing. i’m not someone looking to get big but this helps with everything i thought i knew about human anatomy. loved this video!!
U have been the same weight either becsuse you dont workout or have a fast metabolism so u dont gain weight
You gotta eat
I was like that in high school. I weighed 130 and had been lifting weights since seventh grade. I couldn't gain an ounce of size but gained lots of strength. Then after I joined the Army and could eat all I wanted with no limit, I STILL didn't gain an ounce, just more strength. Then I turned 30, everything changed. I shot up in size in a matter of a couple years, I shot up to 200 lbs. and was strong A.F. But I slowed down a lot and my metabolism did as well and now it takes forever to lose a pound of weight when I couldn't gain it for anything before. Trust me, your metabolism will slow down if you are young, and by what you said, I'm just about sure you are young, early 20s at most, right?
So am I the only one who flinched at 21:00 ........?
Wondering if it's even real. If so... yeah, fuck that
@@Metryk I think it jumpcuts to a dummy
Informative, engaging and thought provoking! Very well put together video, as a physiotherapist i will recommend this to my juniors, students of anatomy and everyone who is athlete, active in workout, gym coach etc.
keep up the good work mate.
I KNEW DON ROEINHOUDT WELL. HE USED TO WORK OUT AT OLYMPIC COACH LARRY BARNHOTH'S GYM IN AKRON,OHIO. AT THAT TIME HE WAS NOT AS LARGE AS YOU SEE HIM IN THE PHOTO, HE WEIGHED 280 AND I REMEMBER HIM PRESSING 300. HE TOLD ME HE DID NOT PRACTICE THE PRESS A LOT. A LITTLE LATER HE MARRIED CINDY ? WHO WAS ALSO A GREAT ATHLETE. THOSE WERE THE TIMES.THROUGH LARRY I MET MANY GREAT OLYMPIC LIFTERS AND BODYBUILDERS. JOHN GRIMEK , RICK HOLBROOK,PHIL GRIPPALDI, BOB HOFFMAN, AND OTHERS. I REMEMBER I WAS ALLOWED BEHIND THE STAGE AT THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS AND WAS THE SECOND PERSON TO CONGRATULATE ALEXEEV AFTER THE FIRST 500 LB CLEAN AND JERK. THOSE WERE THE DAYS. I WAS 18-23 THEN NOW I AM 76,
About the whole super strength during extreme stress thing. There was one time that I got really angry and ripped a nylon rope clean in half as a teenager. That rope was rated for over 500 pounds, and I tore it in front of my chest horizontally. This injured my shoulders, upper back, and hands badly enough that I couldn't use them properly for a week, but it still worked in the moment. So I think there is some validity to that whole thing. For reference, I normally couldn't rip anything close to that in that same time period. Like, my limit was closer to 100 pounds.
The phenomenon you experienced is called hysterical strength.
@@blazestrange4499 I know that. I was just responding to the video's seeming rejection of the entire concept as fiction.
Hmm really?
@@bigballs274 8 inches is great
I was going to ask you what gender you were because apparently it's a lot more common among females but i went onto your channel to see instead and i watched your gangsta video.... and more questions were answered than i was asking
Incredible video! "An Architect watching a beaver build a dam" was a beautiful metaphor
well as regards 'moving cars' me and my cousin did put my friends car between 2 trees for a laugh. But we were both young(at the time) and fit and very large men - both played rugby, me for college, him professionally for the Sheffield eagles and I was a Judo blackbelt. Id say we lifted about 700 lbs between us, it was a small car, so the idea of parents moving cars off kids etc is not a problem for me, bearing in mind that modern and particularly European cars are a LOT lighter than an Impala! Hell i've seen my (at the time) middle aged mum pick up a 300 lb man in a medical emergency - but she was trained to lift bodies due to her profession.
Regarding the mental discipline, I can say that this is something I have researched a lot in my life - as a pro fighter psyching my self up was normal, but as some one that has delved into the spiritual and mental disciplines associated with martial arts, meditation can absolutely lead to unlocking those natural protective barriers that the body has in place to prevent damaging itself.
As a now middle aged/older gent that is living with disability from military service ( and a lifetime of combat sports) I can also state that these same techniques I learned then enable me to get by now - to ignore pain, to force my body to move. further more that the good musculature can compensate for damaged bone and joints. I have lost track of the number of medical professionals that have told me they cant understand how I can walk at all - that I should be in a wheel chair.. but I get by walking with a stick
This is seriously good content. I learned a lot.
One of the best videos on the subject of human strength I ever seen. Thank you.
This video was exceptionally done well. I am watching it later again with my gf who is also into lifting and sport performance. Absolutely masterpiece in information, presentation and editing! Keep up the great work!
agreed
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
@@roncaruso931 Ron got a touch of the broken record syndrome...just keeps repeating himself over and over...
Sage. Never wanted to bulk to where I'd need to be a powerlifter. Hover around 200 and I'm 5'11. Not a gym rat. Put up 280, and while that's not super. It meets my functional goals.
Mad respect for the behemoths in this video. Can't imagine the discipline and motivation required to get there
Gem of a Channel ❤
Lucky to find it!
21:05 is absolutely terrifying.
That was the jump scare of my life XD
I'm not the same anymore
@@Ticks I'll never trust again
Did that guy fkn die or wut?
@kozmosis3486 I reckon he must have :/
This is the most complete, most scientific and most honest discussion on this topic that I've ever come across. After viewing this video, I think you left out the title you should be given: Doctor of Exercise.......Alexander Bromley D.E. You are the most knowledgeable person I know of on this this, and this includes my college professors, all of whom can certainly learn from you.
In researching material for my Master's thesis("The Effect of Canned Tuna as a Nutritional Supplement on the Physique Enhancement of Individuals Engaged in Intense Weight Training") in human nutrition, I have to agree with all that you said concerning scientific research in this realm of study.
As for my background to validate what I have stated above, I am a 78 year old "natural for life" bodybuilder who has been lifting for 60 years. I have trained in a "hardcore" gym whose members were powerlifters and bodybuilders, the vast majority of whom were "on the juice". I am a retired teacher having taught biology, chemistry and human anatomy & physiology for 38 years. I have won bodybuilding titles on the regional and national level both in "tested" and "untested" contests.
P.S. I am dyslexic. So please excuse any typos.
No. Lol. Doctor? Lol no. Dude doesn't even have a comprehensive understanding of the language he's speaking.
I’m sorry but that video of the guy squatting around 21:30 give or take 10ish seconds (I really don’t want to go back and watch it again)…
THAT is my worst nightmare. I am hesitant to use a squat rack because of that. I generally only squat with body weight or some kettle bells. It works for me, but I know I’ll never be that super strong, but I’m okay with that.
dont worry that video is fake and is cgi, that wouldnt happen irl
What an amazing video on the biomechanical engineering of powerlifting!
It’s funny that they accidentally made Batman pretty realistic before they knew how strong humans could be, I think I read he could bench like 500 and squat 1000, which is completely feasible, the only fantastical part is how lean he stays while doing these things
Master Wayne is blessed with exceptional genetics
Batman can bench a 1000 tho😎
Remember that Batman also is highly intelligent and basically holds like 6-8 phd levels of knowledge in a range of sciences.
Thank you sir! This is one of the best videos I've ever seen on Yahoo. Informative, based on reality, practical. I've just subscribed.
Great delivery and pacing! Interesting, informative, and engaging!
Well done!
Thanks!
One of the more interesting subjects to watch , thank you .
I only watched half of this video and my brain already hurts. In a good way! You already answered so many of my questions!! What an awesome video. This is going in my favorites.
Outstanding breakdown. You covered so all the critical aspects of human strength.
And people tends to underestimate human strength for basic aplications unfortunately, even wealthy young men !
I often have to show my mechanic employee that he can lift things like a gerbox by it's own and not have to ask for help, him or others thinks it's way to heavy. People also look at me with round eyes whenever I lift something like a 60 liters (62.5 kg) barrel of motor oil from ground to my chest and walk carrying it a few meters to store it... Come on ! It's just nothing, but we live in a very " Soft people " era sadly where normal strengh gets confused with heavy duty capabilities.
Really broad, comprehensive video dealing with a lot of topics in a factual, eloquent and clearly well researched way. I have no interest in weight lifting, but I've liked the vid and will recommend a few of my friends to watch it :)
I’ve never paused, rewound, and said this is so interesting more times than this video. Very well done really enjoyed it.
15:33 is an interesting one. Before going to highschool I was doing wrestling time to time which requires type 2 fibers. In highschool I started swimming and my endurance increased a lot. I was way active than how I was before hs. Then one day, in hs 2nd grade I tried to wrestle an old friend from wrestling days. He beat me so bad, and I was suprised that I was doing worse after an phisically active year. This video helps me understand how I lost power by doing an endurance sport.
5:11 The frame inserted of Des'tiny' is pretty hilarious. The guy is known for being short though he is 5'8 but he's still kinda skinny and he hunches over constantly so he looks four inches shorter.
Lol wondering if anyone noticed
For a while I hired a trainer for powerlifting. He said a friend who is also an elite lifter was told by a doctor that his bone density was the same as a gorilla's. Not sure if the doctor was using hyperbole, but it would be interesting to know how much stronger human bones can get through strength training. I suppose there's some increase in diameter, as well.
There is indeed increase in diameter, especially with "young-like" developmental pattern/ability. The density is several times average. I remember John Broz, who was a wightlifitng trainer greatly influenced by Bulgarians, has said that his lifter Pat Mendes, a 20 yo. 10 yrs ago(ha), had his hip socket density at 6 times average, and other loaded places at around 4 times, and the rest of the skeleton at around 2.3 -.7, the least mineralized bones perhaps even lower, mybe? at the lowest, I believe.. The maximum is around 10-12 times for bone.
Those who get hit a lot have much greater density at the impact sites. The other animals train and aren´t as fickle and in their heads as we. We still have the means to become very much like them. You can be 2 different people of very wildly different heights and looks/health, depending on how you live, and save yourself, or push against your deficiencies/weaknesses.
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Man, what an awesome video! You debunked a load of myths with facts, dove deep into the science of the human body AND mind, and nailed it with the lady lifting the car thing.
One of the most informative and interesting videos I’ve seen in quite some time.
Subscribing now!
@woodnbassmentproductions1429
Heh, me several months ago.
The better we know about how our current limits work, the more easily we will be able to attempt to exceed those limits using genetic modification. I applaud your efforts sir.
I believe the person that you're looking for to test out the upper limits of human strength was a man who lived in the late 19th century. His name was Angus MacAskill he was 7'9" tall and he didn't have giantism/acromegaly so he was "normal" or "proportional" at that size. Meaning his frame was absolutely massive, his chest was 80" and he wasn't considered super muscular but he wasn't obese... Again just "normal ", as normal as a 7'9" 510# man can be.
After checking my sources... It depends on where you get your information as to his weight... Some places say 425lbs some say 475... Some say 510. Regardless he was an absolute mountain of a man with hands that were over a half a foot wide and a foot long.
Agreed, What an amazing man he was. He was capable of some amazing feats of strength, back then. Imagine what he could do today with modern techniques!
@@alexeidenier4072that's a massive human 😂
@@shepchester3567 exactly. Assuming anything from back then can be trusted he was insanely strong just naturally living his life. If he would have actually trained and attempted to get as strong as possible I doubt anyone would be able to get anywhere near his lifts. It makes me wonder how strong he would have been if he was brought to modern times at let's say 15 and trained for Strongman/powerlifting with all the modern drugs and stuff to increase it. He could probably get to a bulky 700 lbs and not be all that fat
@@alexeidenier4072 You're assuming that he was like that without physical exercise.
I guarantee you nobody, no matter how wicked genetics, becomes that strong and large without living physically demanding life
I'm not a weight lifter at all, nor do I wish to be but I just want to say that you have a really good channel. I stayed tuned in and I honestly do not care at all about weight lifting.
Good job, brother.
These guys are all on roids and PEDs. You left out Lasha Talahadze , super heavyweight OLY lifter who did a 594lb. C&J in training. He had to lift the weight off the floor, front squat it and then jerk it over head!
Paul Anderson did a back squat of 1700 lbs. NO roids or drugs.
Pure greatness double-dipped in awesome sauce and served on a platinum platter of quality! Great information.
5:11 Bromley firing shots at destiny LMAO
Ahaha that was my editor. I didn't even see that until now
Destiny? That's a girls name.
@AlexanderBromley based editor. Though I would consider calling him the average man too generous.
Need a warning before 21:00, this was so unexpected from a chill video like this
it's a doll xD
@@DevMP yeah I think that wasnt his point tho?
Bro I'm heavily scared knowing that could happen to anyone it looked like a horror movie
@@cybercryomancergaming6396 something straight out of Final Destination 🤯
@@DevMP That's a doll?? Sure doesn't look like one
I loved this Masterclass/Course thanks a lot.
This content is unbelievable honestly
5:10 someone tell me the love or secret behind using a photo of destiny in this video? Lmao.
Please tell me im not the only one who saw the SHOTS FIRED @ Destiny LOLOLOL. The clip only lasted a quarter second, but that was enough LOLOL
He got Destiny too?!
Thanks Alex. It is genetics. Not just size and cardio, but ability to absorb nutrients, and recover, heal.
I also liked your comment about find what you like and do it long enough. You hone it, and can be very satified with results, without competing. Screw competition. Totally vain.
What a great video and editing, thoroughly enjoyed this!
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Great video, man! All of this was super-informative! Thanks for making it.
It always impresses me seeing people lift weights so heavy that even the bars they attach to bend under the strain of their mass.
0:02 Eddie Hall. The end.
Paul Anderson lifted 6,270lbs.....
@@_.thealtbutton._3483 what's that in kg
Bro, Louis Cyr is the strongest person in the hirstory but he died but just go check something about him
I love Eddie, but Thor did 501 and didn't bleed or forget anything.
@@grouchypotatowolfpack5580can't compare competition vs homegym
I’d like to see a second video on the limits of strength for things like jumping that take a totally different physicality (as you mentioned). And maybe a third on endurance?
Assuming air resistance based on the shape of your body is negligible, jumping is basically maximising the takeoff speed, and reducing the aerial deceleration. Less mass means you're able to accelerate more before takeoff, but it means less muscle to use push off the ground, so there's tradeoff there that probably be experimented with. Longer limbs mean you have more time to accelerate before takeoff as you extend your legs and you have more arms to swing upward to accelerate the average speed of your body. It mainly comes down to building strength in the arms and legs, legs because they are what push the body off the ground, arms because the stronger your arms are, the faster you can accelerate them upward which will increase your body's average takeoff speed, the heavier your arms are the more of your body you're accelerating by swinging them, but the less you're able to accelerate them so a high strength to weight ratio of the arms would be good. Ensuring your core muscles are strong enough is also good because they can keep the body stable to maximise the efficiency of the jump. Since strength to weight ratio should be high, building strength without much muscle is important (the opposite of the strength in this video) so don't eat too much and focus more on working out with high intensity but don't overdo it. Muscle is built through frequent training but you want to train your nervous system to get as much strength (hence high intensity) out of as little muscle (less frequent) as possible. It's worth experimenting what the ideal amount of muscle is for the best strength to weight ratio for jumping (theoretically it could probably be calculated but i can't be bothered to the maths right now). It's also really important to work on tendon strength (most notably the achilles tendon) because they aren't as big as muscles but due to their nature they are much more explosive than muscles (which is obviously important for increasing the acceleration before takeoff). To make tendons springier plyometrics are good and high intensity weights or calisthenics also give the tendons a good workout since your nervous system learns to draw on every aspect of strength it has in muscles or tendons. Just don't do bodybuilding designed workouts like isolating the muscle because that will leave your muscle stronger than the tendon can practically support so you could injure the tendon. I think tendon stiffness is different to tendon strength and while stiffness (improved with plyometrics) makes the tendons springier, it leaves the tendon vulnerable to injury i heard but I'm not too sure (that's worth researching), so doing tendon strengthening exercises would be helpful. To summarise, don't eat too much or follow body-building regimes, hypertrophy is mostly bad for reducing weight but there's a necessary amount to improve strength, strength to weight ratio is key (calisthenics are good for this), long limbs are good, legs are key but arm-driving and body stability is also important, improving muscle strength is important but so is tendon stiffness (plyometrics). I should say i am far from an expert in this field so this is quite high level but it should provide a good starting point using what i do know, if you had the time to read all of this.
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Formating(even just pressing enter every now and then)would make it MUCH more enjoyable to read, regardless of how much truth there is to the content
My takeaway. Elite powerlifters really wish they were Silverbacks.
Who wouldn't?
But at leastvthey more or less look alike
Dude they can’t even win a fight against a chimpanzee so why would they compare themself to that x_X?
@@Melvin-nt9xuchimps aren't as bad as people like to claim
@@crispybacon9917 indeed :)
Man I saw the thumbnail and I realized…as I get deeper into the strength building rabbit hole, I have a newfound respect for the gorilla…they truly are the master primates in terms of raw strength. Their anatomical and anthropometric proportions are perfect. Plus they have exceptional bone density.
Evolution really showed us what it can do in different directions. They are peak in strength, what we are in cognition and intelligence. Same original ancestor, completely different products. Yet they still retain some intelligence, and a lot more than lower chordates.
As someone who's fallen down the Bigfoot rabbit hole often and deep enough that I'm convinced that they at least used to exist if not still do, I've also reached these conclusions about our fellow Apes.
Humanity min-max'd for tool use and large social structures at the cost of nearly every form of natural weapon and defense.
Bro it's 2023 not 1923, evolution is pseudo science, it's pretending rationality comes from irrationality which makes evolution a mythology of magic. Mindless matter and mutation can't manifest code. Far less all the other issues it has.
8:55 Dont knock the coolness of the persistence hunting model.....the idea that a primevsl hjman could pursue prey even stronger prey until it was exhausted is pretty metal
I remember how in the Spiderman cartoon on FoxKids, the spider was surprised that he could lift a car. These guys practically do it. So it actually makes sense that in the cartoon, Kingpin gave Spiderman such a hard time despite being an ordinary human
Yeah but spider man pulls his punches he almost never goes all out
Spiderman can actually clean and jerk a car though. With no leverage tricks.
Didn't know this channel, I kind of watched this on a whim, thinking it would be some brute force records listing. There was indeed some of that but you went so much further and with very precise and interesting scientific approach. I thoroughly enjoyed your video and learned a ton. A gorilla thank you to you!
3:16 I love how half of steroids look like chemistry ingredients and half of them like children's vitamins
19:47 she obviously only lifted one side of the car, so just 1,647.5 lbs, or about 748 kg.
However, she only lifted it of about 4 inches, which is around 0.1 meter.
With these values we can estimate the energy she deployed to perform this feat :
E = m*g*h
E = 748*9.81*0.1
E ≈ 734 J
If you do the maths :
734 = m*g*h
734 = m*9.81*1
m ≈ 75 kg
That's equivalent to lifting 75 kg 1 meter off of the ground, or about 75 newtons of force.
That's coherent considering how the energy we calculated (734 joules) is a bit more than the amount of energy needed to crush a cardboard box.