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i’m korean and the mistake i see a lot of people make is choosing korean because it has an easier alphabet. while that’s true since you can kind of learn the korean alphabet in just a day, the thing is learning anything, let alone something as complex and wide-encompassing as a whole language, gets quite difficult at times and you’ll struggle to stay motivated and keep going through those times if you’re learning korean for the sole reason that it has the easier alphabet of the two as opposed to if you were learning it for a more personal reason like learning it because you are a big fan of kpop or your partner/best friend/family is korean, and so on.
True, but learner like me, don't have neither language partners or working goals in both japanese and korean, so i'm planning to stack when i,ve learn enough korean, rate of learning is slow though but still moving none the less.. Since i did watched plenty of japanese animes during childhood, i got quite some passive learning of japanese. So will work on it later.
That's true. I knew that korean wasn't going to be easy but I'm lossing motivation to learn because I'm starting to wonder if someday I will really be able to speak or understand at least a kpop song or maybe a daily conversation.
I believe you should learn the language that interests you, no matter what it is. Interest is the most important factor in learning a language. There is no tough language if you are interested in it.
Yeah, my family’s been supportive that I’m learning Korean but they do get concerned because it’s not necessarily the most practical language that I’m gonna be able to use often like, say, Spanish. And I get that, and even thought if it was a good idea myself but I realized it’s what I’m interested in and honestly I’ve never been this consistent with anything. I really enjoy learning it even with the difficult to grasp aspects which is how I know I made the right choice.
@@rose2654 me too! I’m also learning Korean and sometimes I felt that Spanish would make more sense since I have more experience with it and already know the basics. Korean is so interesting I can study it for hours on end and it doesn’t feel like a chore. I think I made the right decision learning Korean as well
honestly many of you will lose interest in either languages, when you start learning it for couple months. I tried to learn French, lost interest after 3 months.
*As a Korean teacher and Japanese learner, I'm confident to say "motivation is the key" 😄😄 Without motivation, it's so hard to master a language. If there is something that motivates you to learn Korean like BTS or Korean drama, study Korean !! If there is something that motivates you to learn Japanese like Anime or Japanese food/culture, study Japanese !! But whatever you study, don't give up 😉😉*
What if there is something that motivates you to learn both haha. I am struggling to make a choice, because I can speak five languages right now very well, but also wanna learn Korean and Japanese. I love K dramas and have a Korean friend who is ready to help me and I love watching Anime in Japanese. I am scared that If I learn more languages, I will lose the ones I already speak.
Absolutely and to find the real reasons and some maturoty of your choice. I have to say I have questioned myself a lot of times about which East Asian language I would like to learn first. Finally I've chosen Bahasa Indonesia, my Asian teenage passion language but at the time, I was influencable and I've heard 'Oh that's a useless language!' and other things like that. Then I'm going to see if I want to learn another East Asian language (between Mandarin Japanese, Korean).
@@AfroLinguo You are right. You may lose the languages that you don't speak as often. However, you won't completely lose it so I don't think you need to worry. Here is my advice. If you like both, study both !! They are similar. I find Japanese so much easier than learning English because of my Korean background :)
My father is a Korean and my mother is Japanese. They are both fluent in both languages. And my wife is an American who can read and speak Korean little bit, and she is trying to learn Japanese as a hobby. I need to tell her to learn Japanese with a text book written in Korean. Thank you for this video.
I have many friends who are inter-national couples like your parents and many have small children so I'd like to ask you a few questions, if you don't mind. Did your mother speak Japanese to you when you were a child? Did she send you to formal Japanese language lessons? And what about your father, didn't he try to talk to you in Korean as you were growing up? Any attempts to have you study Korean formally? If the answer is yes to both questions, which do you think you are more proficient at/more comfortable with? I hope it isn't a bother. Thanks.
I started learning Korean 4.5 years after I started Japanese, and I feel that knowing kanji has given me a huge head start. When learning new Korean vocab I usually look up the hanja as well and it really helps things stick for me. In Japanese I can often guess the meaning of words I’ve not seen before if I know the kanji, and I’ve been able to approximate that in Korean by knowing how hanja pronunciations typically compare to kanji pronunciation. And somehow this mental exercise just ends up reenforcing the vocab in both languages for me
Here are my experiences with starting with Japanese and Korean, maybe someone can relate :) I started to learn Japanese a while ago and I know some basic Japanese. But then I also wanted to learn Korean and wanted to choose only one of them to completely focus on because I noticed that it wasn’t so easy to really separate them for learning, especially as a beginner (some things I knew in one language and other things in the other one). But now I decided to go with Korean because I have so much motivation right now for Korean, I think that’s because it’s a new language that I don’t now yet :) Also I heard that often you can hear it when Japanese learner learn and speak Korean after learning Japanese. Having only to know one alphabet makes reading really easy although after understanding the concept I still needed a lot of practice to be able to read it easily. (In the beginning I took so long for one word because I didn’t know the characters well so that at the end of a word I already forgot what the beginning of the word was. I wasn’t familiar with the sounds too. But now it’s a lot easier.) Anyway, the bit of Japanese really helped me a lot in the beginning because it was easy to understand the concept, particles etc. But I also experienced that somehow Korean vocabulary was so much harder to remember! The sounds are pretty unfamiliar to me and every word sounded so similar to me, idk I couldn’t really grasp the words. Japanese is or was a lot easier for me to hear the sounds because the sounds are sort of similar to my native language and the syllable concept was easy to understand. While Korean does also have new consonants and one after another, unlike Japanese. The same goes for the pronunciation, Japanese is a lot more easier to pronounce and to read out for me. But I think that’s just practice and it keeps getting better by engaging with the language. Maybe I just had more practice in Japanese listening because I’ve watched a lot of animes while Korean was completely new to me. I really enjoy learning Korean at the moment, even more than Japanese just because Korean seems more difficult to me because of the reasons I stated above! Japanese sound system was pretty easy but in Korean, I needed to learn how to make the new sounds etc. It’s like a riddle that I like to solve :) Anyway, this comment is really long but I just wanted to share my beginner experiences. Knowing a bit of Japanese definitely helped me a lot with beginning with Korean and I already know some Hanjas now too because of the Kanji. But now I want to focus on Korean because I find it more fun at the moment. But after I know some Korean I will definitely get back to Japanese. Edit: if there are any grammar mistakes or anything in the comment feel free to correct me because I like to improve :P Edit #2 to make the comment even longer: It’s been a few months now and I can say now that I’ve been learning Korean for one year. And rewatching videos I watched when I started learning Korean makes me realize that I can grasp and understand so much more! And I can have a very basic conversation. I’m so excited to see my progress and if gives me further motivation to continue learning :)) Also, I realized that I can read Hangul much more easily but I still need a bit of time for new words but I guess that’s the same for everyone haha
I agree with what you say except the fact that when you learn korean after japanese, then you’re prononciation in korean will sound japanese. I think it’s also the case for the contrary so if you learn korean and after that japanese your pronounciation will be a little weird too. That’s what I’m gonna do actually, learning korean after japanese(My japanese is now a little lower than the N3)
Yess I totally relate! I also started learning Korean after a few years of studying Japanese and I’ve encountered the same struggles with remembering words in 한글 and their pronunciation
But the deeper you go into Japanese, the higher your chances of getting a stroke. Moreover, it is a very difficult language if not exposed to real life for decades, such as Chinese with a high level of difficulty like Japanese, and it is even more difficult to develop to an advanced level to become an expert.
Many people use language stacking on Duolingo by learning Spanish to learn Catalan which is only available to Spanish speakers. Pretty soon when Cantonese comes out for Mandarin Chinese speakers, people are going to learn Mandarin Chinese to learn Cantonese.
this is so hard for me because both japanese and korean are fascinating languages to me. i consume a fair amount of media from both languages and i also would like to visit both places. i really can't decide which one to learn.
I have the exact same problem! I love kdramas, kmusic, and korean comics but at the same time I love anime and japanese manga so its a hard choice! But I think I'll learn korean first because I think I will be a little more motivated to understand the shows and watch without subtitles
@@OkIdk-ww9kt no for me its just that i was ( i moved on and stopped leraning them completely) so indecisive with these two that whenever i started with one of them, i wanted to learn the other. But because of school back then and work now, my energy to lean even justt one language was of course pretty low.
I struggled with this question a few weeks ago as I I’m learning Japanese because I like the language but I found more opportunities to study in Korea. After watching a few Korean lessons I couldn’t bring myself to study it. I just love studying kanji and I feel more motivation to study it. So I agree with motivation and enjoyment being one important reason to choose either language 🙌🏼
I'm facing the same problem now, I fell in love with Japanese because of listening to music and thought I was ready to spend all my time learning it, but it feels like I have more opportunities with Korean. Now I'm learning Korean with a new friend and I left Japanese for later, for free time and soul. How is your language learning progressing?
were you able to master it? im stuck between japanese or korean but i feel more motivated to studt japanese as ive alreadt started learning basic words and stuff and learning korean isnt the same so im planning on focusing on my japanese learning
Just my opinion: Starting with Japanese gets your mind a little too fixated on the simple syllables/pronounciation so that when you try Korean it's going to FEEL much harder to pronounce, despite it having a similar grammar/easier writing system. This is coming from someone who was too used to Japanese to manage Korean whatsoever and quit lol
I can offer perspective on the flip side - I've studied and absorbed Korean for 3 years now and started studying Japanese (restarting at a beginner level after trying many years ago) really recently. While studying Korean I always felt like grammar/sentence patterns were unintuitive and difficult to internalize, and pronunciation and conjugation took a while to get used to. Studying Korean felt like training with weights attached to my body lol. Now that I'm studying Japanese, it feels as if I'm free of those weights, like I have this huge advantage because the pronunciation is so much simpler, and the grammar is so similar to Korean that it feels like a piece of cake. Only difference is the kanji, but having studied Chinese as well it's actually kinda reassuring to have these familiar characters lol.
Omg thank you for this response its been really difficult for me to choose one and I've been learning basic words of each language over a year, according to all the comments I've already read its easier to do Korean first and then try to learn Japanese so I think I will pursue that, even though im native in Spanish and there are more resources to learn Japanese rather than Korean this comment made me reassure that, thank you again!
this happened to me omg!!! and i just realized recently! i started learning japanese first and now am only learning korean and that’s exactly how it was and still is a little bit for me. i was like why does it seem so hard to pronounce korean correctly and was told that i read korean writing like it’s japanese 😭
Seeing that even I as a native Korean speaker myself struggle pronouncing some words it's nearly impossible to imagine how difficult it'd be for the ones learning the language. Such as this word 엉망진창- (ungmangjinchang, is apparently used so wide nowadays but yet many natives barely say it correctly
Both! As a Japanese person who has studied Chinese too, I feel like there's no excuse to not learn Korean. I'm not saying Korean is easy, but Japanese and Korean is very similar in many ways.
I'm an native English speaker from America. I've been learning mandarin for 14 months and korean for about 12 months on and off. Someone asked me what's the difference and I had Compared korean to japanese. Although I'm only a beginner and I don't know much about the culture, it's nice to see that I was correct with my judgement. Its nice to know that I didn't tell this person anything wrong
Korea and Japan in ancient Eastern Europe inherited and used "Chinese characters" from the then-powerful China, and Japanese is used only by using some of the words "Chinese characters" to date, while Korea became meaningful when "King Sejong" completely independent of Chinese characters in the mid-Joseon period. The point of note in this section is that "Chinese" and "Chinese" are different.
@Brian Kim Korean and Japanese are grammatically completely consistent, and vocabulary is often similar or completely consistent, so it is not too difficult to learn each other's languages in both countries. I don't know about the Japanese, but since I am Korean, the average Korean can completely master basic Japanese speaking within two or three months. On the other hand, there are quite a few parts of Japanese pronunciation that cannot be pronounced properly in Korea, so it is not enough to completely master.
You should learn both 😉 I started learning japanese and korean at the same time because... I just wanted to haha. But also I thought that since there are some similarities it wouldn't be a bad idea to learn concurrently, although some people might think the opposite. It's been fun though!
Exactly. I feel like many people think they can learn only one language. But actually, one can learn several languages. You must not learn them at the same time. You can learn one for a couple years to fluency and then do the same for the next language. That is what I did for German and Chinese.
@@AfroLinguo where u learn language..??? At university???? .... Hey!!!i also wantts to learn Korean and french can u tell me do we have to go university to learn them???
Love this video! I started learning Thai because my church has a Thai congregation. I humbly sit and fellowship with the Thai people after service and try to learn throughout the week. I’m hoping that if I can go to Thailand this summer, I will be A2
I picked Korean for the sole reason that I'm genuinely interested in the culture (not just kpop and kdrama as some people may assume about Korean learners). I know that Korean resources are a bit harder to find than in Japanese. I have a pretty good collection of Korean books currently. Also this may sound weird, but I understand Korean better than Japanese. Also Korean TV shows are easier to find (that's just my opinion).
i have been learning Japanese for 8 years and I'm still at beginner stage (not even n5) i obviously took pauses but most importantly i focused to much in grammar and neglected vocabulary A LOT. after this almost 8 years my passion didn't go away i just finally figured out how to study it correctly. if you study Japanese you will definitely not regret it😊 I wanted to study at a Japanese university but now I don't want nether to sudy there nor to live there but i still love the language. now I'm taking a break form Japanese for 2 months to focus on intense Korean and Chinese study but Japanese will always be special to be i literally grew up with the language 🥺 form 11 to almost 18 years
I feel you too since we have the same amount of learning time xD I'm stuck at a level (around n4-3) and it's really hard to pass it. Mostly importantly sometimes I'm disappointed in myself for forgetting how to write 漢字 D: Also the fact I'm so slow at writing really bother me don't cha?
@@hiranokyomi don't worry take your time. in my case i found out that i have no problems finding resources in fact i have a lot of them for every aspect of the language but i struggle to PASS beginner. this 2 month intensive Korean and Chinese is to finally pass beginner stage and enter intermediate
8 years and still at beginners level? What kind of breaks do you take? Sorry if it sounds rude but that sounds pretty disheartening to us who are trying to learn the language😅
@@jjjd1292 there are multiple reasons, they might learn on their own, they might have a job which doesn't allow them to study much, they might have been through "self problems" that can't be fixed in one clap... If you really want to learn and do something just never give up no matter what! It's not because that person said that it should impact your learning 😊✨ Stay determinated.
I've tried studying both Korean and Japanese in the past, but ultimately my heart chose Mandarin. I think that I'd like to eventually study one of them again, but I want to get my Mandarin to a high level first.
Both languages are so cool. I feel like even after learning both and speaking them fluently, I will then find new ones to learn and lose the ones I can already speak.
@@AfroLinguo i think it's true that there will be always new languages to learn, but about losing the ones i can already speak.. i feel like once you learn a language, it will always be there, in your passive memory. of course if you stop speaking them or lose your chance to practise them, you will start to slowly forget. but once you decide to learn them again, you realise you remember much more than you thought, you'll just have to "wake up" the language in your mind..:))
@@AfroLinguo you're welcome:Dd to be surrounded by your targer languages is definitely one of the best ways to learn it- i can personally recommend switching your phone to that language or even better convince your friend to learn it with you (you can use it as a secret language hah), it's much more fun:))
As a Japanese, I have a Korean friends and they taught me Korean. Learning Korean is fun! Korean grammer is similar to Japanese so it is easy for me to translate and understand the structure of the sentence. But...pronunciation is totally different. For Japanese, Spanish and Italian is much easier to copy it's accent! Well, my advice is you should definitely study Chinese characters to master either Japanese or Korean. Most of vocabularies had been brought through these Chinese characters and by learning these Chinese characters will really help you to understand our way to "see things". Good luck!
I've been learning Japanese for over 10 years (well I haven't really 'studied' for a while now, just live in the language) and I started learning korean a couple of years ago. Although Japanese helps me a lot with learning Korean, especially with vocabulary, I find Korean a LOT harder to grasp than Japanese. The grammar despite being similar (so particles in particular took about 5 mins to learn) is a lot harder for me in Korean and the pronunciation is a lot harder too. So I feel if you learn Korean first, Japanese afterwards will seem quite easy. Maybe.
Yeah I’ve been learning Korean for a year and 4 months roughly and I’ve gotten to upper intermediate ✨ now looking at Japanese, there are so many similarities?? I’ve started learning it yesterday and it looks like it’s going to be easier thanks to knowing Korean
so I should learn korean THAN japanese? I am accually wondering please tell me what I should learn fist. I will learn both and I dont care which one I start with but I need to know wich one I should learn fist!!! PLEASE HELP. (and dont say "whatever u want" please tell me what u think will be easier)☺ i started lerning a little bit of japanese but its not to late to switch to korean and i need to know if i should.
@@myself7232 I think if you've already started learning Japanese, stick with that! The writing system for Japanese is harder than Korean by far although once you get the hang of kanji you can often understand new words in reading without looking in the dictionary. It would also help in learning Korean so could be a good idea to get it out the way first.
What's funny is, I went against my first mind and decided to learn Japanese first. Then after I found myself listening to hours and hours of K-Pop, watching interviews in Korean, etc., I began to think, "Crap I should've done Korean first!" It's always calling my name too... 😣 But I'm glad because I think Japanese will prepare me for Korean when I'm finally ready to study it. 😊 Thanks to present and past Lindie! You're both awesome! 😆🤗🤗
This is my current situation. I really want to learn Korean but I think I would start with japanese. I hope I don't regret it even though I know learning something new about a language would never be a regret. I just really like these two languages. I whish I had been naturally exposed to them at a younger age.
I'm Korean teacher! I saw your other video too. I think you seem to be a language genius with language skills! I'm also interested in studying languages, but studying various languages is hard. To add a little bit of my opinion, " I think it is important not to give up on studying language and to repeat it constantly. " So, to master a language, " you will have to believe it and repeat it without asking any reason. " I enjoyed the video! Have a great day! :)
@@yinzhipua3595 Yeah haha I'm a native Korean speaker but still can't get over how to distinguish 가/이 and 은/는 since they both have the same usage yet are somehow used so differently.
i will learn korean and then japanese. at the moment my passion is for korean. i love how it looks and how it sounds spoken and sung. as it becomes more familiar, it becomes more lovely. eventually i want to learn mandarin too, xD. but i know i will learn them one at a time❤️
I'm starting to go back and actually study japanese again. I've took 3 years of japanese during high school and afterwards just never focused on improving upon it. I've just been immersing myself in the language watching anime, watching drama, watching documentary/news, listening to the music, etc. I tried learning korean and I found that it is similar to learning japanese. Those 3 years of japanese actually helped, I might have forgotten what I learned but I still remembered how I learned a new language.
I’ve studied both Japanese and Korean at various times of my life. First Japanese, then a break and then Korean. My Korean was at a higher level than my Japanese and I’ve travelled to Korea and have more experience speaking it, but I haven’t been maintaining my skills the past year and I remember so little. I don’t watch Korean shows or talk in Korean so I don’t have exposure to the language. On the other hand, I’ve been watching a bunch of anime in the past year without studying any language and it has rekindled my passion for Japanese. It’s just that I don’t know which language to choose😂 Japanese so I can watch anime now and travel there in the future (maybe live/work there for a bit); or Korean, where I would like to study (as unlikely as it is to occur) and would love to live and work there too. So it’s basically Japanese with instant gratification and lots of exposure (from Anime and Japanese music) or Korean with benefits in a few years maybe and no real exposure until then (no shows, music)😂😂 so since I can’t choose I’m just not learning anything.
I think you should learn both at the same time. Japanese for an hour and Korean an hour. Once you've got to an intermediate level in both languages live in Japan and Korea for some time and see which one prefer. And make sure to be consistent and don't give up. Watch Anime with subtitles and watch K-pop dramas with subtitles. Also watch this video it tells you how you should learn a language. th-cam.com/video/gjZMomXs35Q/w-d-xo.html
I still can’t decide and i do nothing... i mean i get demotivated from the fact that everyone says ASIAN LANGUAGES CANT BE SELFTAUGHT. Im currently on Albania, here are no good courses for Japanese/korean so the only way is by watching videos like this, which are very helpful but im still not sure if i should start or would i ever get any results.
I'm also Eastern European and the lack of schools and textbooks here is so demotivating, especially when everyone says that languages like Korean and Japanese (both of which I wanna learn, obviously) can't be self - taught. But believe me, focusing on online resources and building a schedule is so useful. I have picked up Japanese first and I want to start learning Korean by next year. For Japanese, use good apps like Lingodeer, where the grammar is explained impeccably, LingQ, Rosetta Stone and Quizlet.I revise by writing and memorise 10-15 kanjis per day with Anki. Besides that, I try to get as much immersion as possible, also, watching Japanese people explain stuff that's not in textbooks, like the use of あなた is so helpful.If you have Netflix, watching American movies and documentaires with Japanese dubs can also help, besides watching animé and listening to Japanese music (Japanese rock bands are amazing, one of them became my all time fav). Anyways, sorry for this long message, but I really hope this advice can help you.
@@varlanvitalina7155 im so happy people like u exist. Thank u so much for the advices, i plan on starting with japanese too cuz i find it more interesting. I hope i will do good.
Start with Korean only. I am learning Japanese and at the level N3 and just now started with Korean language. Japanese is way much harder than Korean and you can not self taught this language whereas for Korean, its very easy to learn hangul, read and write. Listening can be easily practiced by watching many interesting Kdramas. take your time and start learning. All the best.
Those people probably never learnt either languages or failed at some point because they gave up on their dreams.....English is fundamentaly different from my native language yet I have managed to learn it and now I am studying Korean. My native language is Amharic by the way.
Very useful points; they make a lot of sense! I like watching anime and Kdramas, enjoy listening to the two languages and would love to be able to understand them both. I started with Japanese as I was more interested in it at first, but found that I later considered learning Korean, too. Not studying either atm, but I feel that I would continue with Japanese and learn Korean later. I think I would have more motivation to learn Japanese, I still have contacts from when I was actively learning, and personally feel that I'd be able to pronounce it better, too.
I was so excited when I heard her talk about the language stacking concept and then I heard her say she studied one for 8-9 YEARS before starting the other :( I have a long long long way to go and I'm already old, the struggle lol
Honestly this was really useful, the main thing I struggle with is motivation but the way you made me think about the fact my dream has always been to live in Japan made me more motivated to learn it again. As much as I love the Korean language as a whole, I am gonna do what you said and start with Japanese as I see myself living in Japan in the future.
This is my experience as a native spanish speaker who studied basic japanese and basic korean. (because I love them both!). First, It's not a good idea to learn them at the same time because they seem very similar and words frequently get mixed up. Now, if you already have good listening skills (like being able to tell apart all the 19+ english consonants and more than 5 vowel sounds) and are good at memorizing pronunciation rules, Korean will be easier to learn with the help of Hangul (korean alphabet). So having a lot of written resources to learn the language is key. On the other hand, if you already have good visual memory or enjoy drawing, learning Japanese alphabets and ideograms will be less of a hassle. (I managed to learn both alphabets in just a week) Since spoken Japanese is easier to understand and pronounce, having a lot of spoken input is key in learning the language. That is, you should try to learn it mainly from listening and repeating. If you can't get a language partner to help you, there are good audio courses out there. Focus on listening (music, anime for kids, youtubers, etc anything that interests you) until you have a good grasp of basic vocabulary and grammar. Then you can use textbooks to help you figure out everything you learned intuitively so far. One little problem I have when learning korean is that some consonants are pronounced in 2 different ways but they don't change the word meaning. For example, [ㄷ] which sometimes sounds like a soft 'd' and other times like a soft 't' and there is also [ㄴ] which sometimes sounds like 'n', and other times like a soft 'd'. So I confuse sometimes words with [ㄷ] and [ㄴ]. I think this is because in Spanish soft 't' and soft 'd' do change the meaning of the words. Like 'dato' (= fact) and 'dado' (= dice).
I find this video interesting because this arguable the most asked question on this channel XD haha Anyone who is new to this channel would see Korean and Japanese videos and wanna do both and this should be one of the main featured videos for these questions XD
I want to teach English to foreign people, so knowing as many languages as possible would be awesome. So, both I suppose. Korean first because I love it the most and it's harder. I already know some Japanese.
This was a charming format for a video! I'm learning Japanese and found this information very enlightening. Perhaps I should try language stacking with my French 🤔
This was actually incredibly useful! I'm not even going to study Japanese or Korean (for now), I'm focusing on Spanish and I really want to learn Portuguese but I'm holding myself back as I know it's going to be easier if I advance in Spanish first. Your tip on studying one through the other can be applied here too. It doesn't make sense studying Portuguese through English when I can do it through Spanish. Thanks! P.S. The video format was entertaining and enjoyable to watch. 😊
Hi, I'm a native spanish speaker and I speak japanese and learning korean XD, I can tell you that spanish it's pretty hard but still similar to english, the korean and japanese have a total different grammar to western lenguages structure but they are similar between them, not quite accurerate but it helps, spanish are so similar to portuguese, I can even understand it without know it, keep fighting!
I'm a portuguese speaker (from Brazil) and portuguese is just as hard as spanish hahahah, but don't give up!! they're both beautiful languages and worth your efforts
As I am Korean teacher, most of foreigners are confused with particles. 은는이가 is Korean particles and Japanese has same like Korean. So if you study Korean and Japanese at the same time, it will helpful. Also similar pronunciation between Korean and Japanese, Chinese and Korean. But also Chinese and Japanese are same character writing over 30%(different pronunciation) Japanese writing is easier than Chinese. Japanese and Korean has too many conjugation for verbs. Chinese is much simple to make sentences compared to Japand Korean.
It is so funny, I just found your Hungarian language video (I'm Hungarian), and I wanted to look up what other videos you do. I have been studying Japanese for the past 10 years on and off and I started learning Korean not long ago lol I wouldnt think based on this video you are into Hungarian... :D I actually decided to try studying Korean through Japanese, so thank you!!
I really enjoyed your video Lindie. Thank you for posting this it answered a lot of questions about Learning Korean vs Japanese. I have been learning Korean for a year now and I LOVE IT!!!! I use TTMIK and Go Billy Korean textbooks plus tons of TH-cam videos, kdramas, KPop, and anything I can get my hands on. I absolutely agree you need to be motivated to learning the language cuz there have been too many times I almost threw in the towel! Learning Hangeul was easy but then you have to learn how to pronounce it correctly with their sound change rules and 받침! Hair was ripped out during this learning time. I still go back and re-study 받침 so as I get more familiar with it. Korean is HARD but absolutely worth it. One of the reasons I came across your video is that I’m interested in learning Japanese at some point and I really enjoy your advice in getting to intermediate level in Korean and learn Japanese by using Korean materials. That is brilliant! Hopefully I’ll get there. I LOVE hearing Japanese spoken. Japanese is the Asian form of the French language, it’s pretty. 감사합니다😄
Aside from having more of a reason to learn Japanese, I think what tipped the balances for me favouring Japanese is how reading works. In Japanese you generally* read linearly left to right, like this: --> In Korean you need to have very skilled eyes where you can read like this: >> / >> / / / >> / >> What makes it harder is sometimes in Korean you have to read into the next character cluster before reading the bottom left and bottom right characters in the current cluster. It’s pretty awkward to learn that from being an English speaker, but I’m sure it just takes practice.
i'm studying korean AND chinese at uni (well, i self-studied for 3 years but it feels nice to have structured lessons) but i wanna learn japanese despite having no room for it right now :( i'm definitely gonna resume learning japanese in the future again, but i struggle in finding motivation as i don't have any japanese content i enjoy except for indie bands, which i rarely listen to anymore... i also embarrassingly feel like i'm running out of time, even though i'm 17. maybe i'll travel to japan one day because i LOVE the nature there but part of me is too scared i'll be unlucky enough to have a tsunami happen when i'm there. WAIT i found my motivation... my favourite author is haruki murakami and i wanna read his works in their original language. okay i'll leave my 혼잣말 until here... thank you for this video as i unintentionally just found my motivation LMAO
Nooo, there's so much time left!! Imagine that when you're 22 you'll have already studied the language for five years!! (which is A LOT) and you'll still continue to be so young! Plus, it's never late to start something. Start today and tomorrow you'll be better than if you hadn't started at all. Also... Could you give me the name of some indie bands? That really caught my attention as well (I'm also a Japanese student and started when I was almost 20 :))
Right!!! Structured lessons are so helpful. I learn languages mostly with a teacher. I had a teacher to learn German and now I have one to learn Chinese and I can now speak both German and Chinese. Having a teacher is so helpful.
@@uvfire sorry that I didn’t answer earlier. I was studying for my exams haha. I don’t learn at university. I use this website called “italki” to find a cheap tutor who can teach me.
@@AfroLinguo thanks.. So can i find tutor for me too there.. Or can we become fluent if we don't learn it at university but get a tutor????..how much time it will take to learn a language???
I learned english to be able to use text books in english to learn japanese and it was the best thing I did, I cant wait to play games in japanese without having to find a translation! My motivation always goes "If I managed to learn english then I can do anything!".
Korean is still easier than learning Japanese. Why? Because you can read Korean in 1 day. It takes years of Kanji study to read Japanese effectively. By reading, you can learn a ton of vocabulary, except you can't do that in Japanese without knowing the Kanji so flash cards and repetition take a lot more time in Japanese. The ONLY thing that Korean has an edge over in terms of difficulty is it's harder to pronounce when speaking, there's more sounds/vowels. Japanese pitch accents are easy as hell by comparison. I studied Japanese for about 2000 - 2800 accumulated study hours and in less than 8 study hours of Korean I was able to learn the entire alphabet and a dozen words.
im not into anime and i cant really tell i listen to japanese music but stay with me by miki matsubara really effected me and i really wanted to learn japanese but i stan blackpink for four years and watching their interviews,listening to their songs prepared me to korean. i am used to it.but i really want to learn japanese. for past two weeks im learning both but whenever i switch languages i feel guilty for not even being able to make a decision. for my circumctances i should stick with the korean but i just cant focus to it. in the deep down i really wanna learn japanese i already learned 20 hiragana but theres alot more even just in hiragana and there is katakana,kanji. it's mentally challenging for me. i really dont know what to do.
OMG we have an identical situation😭 i know it'll be smoother for me learning korean coz i'm so used to it as a kpop enjoyer and i wanna understand my boys (TXT), but i love japanese culture more and want to go there someday. however i refuse to learn both because its gonna be too overwhelming. its such a dilemma...
I did both Japanese writing systems and some kanji then tried Korean. If you're going to do both start Korean so you do not get used to the syllable pronunciation of Japanese..
You should learn Korean of course! You can enjoy lots of Korean movies and TV Shows! btw, you already speak pretty good Korean. And of course, your question is for the viewers. I can help people with their Korean learning.
I have been learning both japanese and korean currently. For japanese actually i've learned that languange before, so i still familiar with the kana alphabets and some japanese words. But with korean, i'm still a newbie. So, i still learning the hangeul alphabets.
this video was so interesting! personally before starting university where i study both, i started with korean studying by myself (i couldn’t find any classes) and then i also started attending japanese classes organised by a cultural association in the city where i went to high school. this was during my gap year, i wanted to start studying by myself before uni, and tbh since i was a beginner in both languages it was kinda difficult, but now here at uni we do korean 6 hours a week and japanese 2 hours a week, so now that i’m definitely more fluent in korean than in japanese it’s way easier to learn similar words and new grammar structures
from Korean tutor's view. I also recommend you to get intermidiate level of Korean or Japnese first as lindie said. 1) Learning Japanese first and then Korean for English/ indo-european speakers. : easy and quick to get indermidiate level in 6 months. : feels easy to read letter system. : very easy to undersatnd Korean (intermidiate) vocaburaries : quite easy to understand adjective concepts when you are learning japanese. but, hard to understand Korean adjective concept for beginner. specially still confusing about Conjugations of " to be, Adjective, Verb" : having more paticles than japanese depends on prounciations of Noun. : Problems/Hard to fix your Prounciation and ACCENT....;; : Confused about slight nuances between Japanese / Korean if you would like to get advanced level. : making an sentense and expression as Japanese style. 2) learning Korean first and then Japanese : easy and quick to get indermidiate level in 6 months for speaking. : have to learn Chinese characters and hard to get the concept there is two diffrent way to speak for chinese words in Japanese. : easy to undersatnd japanese vocaburaries from the similar prounciations but hard to read Kanji.... and don't know when to use right words. : ready to confusing about paticles....! with Korean but I don't need to care about using particles depends on prounciation. : Confused about slight nuances between Japanese / Korean if you would like to get advanced level. Conclusion : if you would like to learn two langauge in short time, my personal view is leanrning Japanese first and then Korean is quite easy. (reason why you can learn chinese character/ also if you just want to get intermidiate level of both language for conversations level.) but, minor problems are you have to input alot of time for fixing from japanese Accent/intonation and japanese style expressions... that is it. but, if you would like to choose one language between those and have long-term period as 5years more, I recomend you to learn Korean first. (reason why conjugations and prounciation reason, you will find out concept of chinese charaters if you are advanced of Korean)
I decided to learn both languages at the same time because I love listening to Japanese and kpop songs and reading manhwas too ❤️ I started learning Japanese first and then Korean. I realized that grammar is so similar so it was easier for me! I’m still learning and it’s been really fun!
As a native korean speaker learning japanese; japanese is fun but i'd recommend Korean. Not biased or anything, but i'd assume it's more comfortable not having to memorize thousands of kanji. I guess the grammar is still difficult but it's basically the same as japanese.
for all the things to consider I thought of Korean EXCEPT for where I see myself in the future because its definitely a dream of mine either to study abroad in Japan or live there for a bit...
i strated learning japanese (i had planned to study there and all) but sadly gave up bc i needed to focus on my studies and in the meantime i got introduced to korean so now im learning korean althought i love them both equally.
friend reminder of the 06:43 typo of 어. and i am moving to Korean from Japanese, since I am getting stuck in N2. hope the process of learning Korean can upgrade my Japanese level...
Thank you for this, I've been trying to decide which to learn first and your breakdown of the two languages helped (I already speak a second language in french but wanted more of a challenge)
I am currently trying to decide if I should pick up Korean. I work for an American company, but I am incharge of the IT devision for their Japanese servers. I speak to my clients in Japanese, and have maybe N1 level in ability. I am thinking of doing 6 months in Japan and 6 months in Korea, as my work is remote, but I work Japanese hours so it would be nice to not have to work until 2am like I do living in America right now. I lived in Japan for 6 years, but I had friends that lived in both places. I am currious how hard it is to learn Korean with my level of Japanese. I am no where near where I want to be in Japanese, so I have a hard time not spending those study hours reading more Japanese instead of studying Korean. However, I think it would be cool to live in Korea instead of going back to the states for 6 months, and I've always been envious of people that know 3 languages (even in America 2 isn't so uncommon). The biggest thing that worries me is my terrible memory, and the fact that when trying to learn a third language, it seems the first thing that pops up in my mind is the Japanese word. It's like it requires a different method of recollection that my brain just can't do, but maybe if I got to conversationally fluent level that stops being an issue. I know the way I thought when speaking Japanese was completely different to how I do it now. Initially I would translate the sentance form English to Japanese, but now I just think in Japanese. Perhaps that is what making me think of Japnaese instead of like spanish when I try to speak. I'm still translating from english first. How was your transition to fluency in both languages?
What you are saying is very brilliant way of learning different langues. Actually, for Koreans it is really easy to learn Japanese. I think normal Korean only take 1~2 month to learn basic Japanese and can master daily conversational Japanese less than 6 month. So you can learn Korean first and and then leverage it to learn Japanese.. It would almost feel like one plus one.. i mean, you buy one and get another one for free..But you have to consider this.. These two languages are known to be the hardest language to study for western learners.. lol
I don't even want to know how hard it would have been to start Korean if I wasn't able to plug Korean sentences into Papago (Naver) and translate to Japanese. Occasionally I flip it to English just to see, and it feels like all the details are somehow dropped out, even when the translation is correct. It is so confusing it makes my head hurt.
I think that external motivation and the people you meet can be a very important part of the equation in "choosing a language" as well. I was always more interested in Japanese, but moved to South Korea to teach English instead because of the higher pay. I was very resistant to learning Korean at first, but my ex and various friends convinced/coerced me gradually. Years later, even after returning to the States, I can't seem to stop studying Korean. I've never managed to continually study Japanese for more than a month. Had I moved to Japan, though, this may have been a different story.
If you are a weeb/otaku learning Japanese is invaluable, and what I mean by that specifically is get to understand Hiragana first, Katakana second then lastly some basic Kanji. It will help you out immensely for those moments where you want to read a raw manga that hasn’t been translated or those countless light novels in Japan that have not been officially licensed for English readers lmao. Not to mention there are a ton of Sega and Playstation games worth picking up that are still in Japanese like many of the older visual novel games, as well as retro ones. As someone who knows Hiragana fully and is now in the midst of learning Katakana, you will thank me later for having tried because it makes your life much easier if anime is your thing, cheers!
Thank you this is very helpful. Ive been struggling for about a year now having decision paralysis as to what languge ill be learning next,so yeah ill choose whatever my heart says since i love kdramas and a huge fan of kpop,ill go for korean language!But i would also want Japanese too,so yeah here i go again,😁but naah final decision would be korean!😂
i really apricate the format of the video! nice way of spicing it up and making it more interesting :D well done. have a nice day and keep on enjoying the language learning journey!
*Thank you 🙏 this was very informative.* I’m raised trilingually English/German/Chinese (proficiency in descending order). I started learning Korean using English (culture and vicinity). _I realize using Chinese instead seems more 方便. My ultimate goal is to assimilate all three cultures learning from Chinese to Korean to Japanese._
I'm a retired guy interested in languages, and I currently have taken the opportunity of my retirement to use DuoLingo to learn more about a bunch of them, including both Japanese and Korean. Will I ever travel to Asia? Unlikely. However, since I live in California , there are plenty of Japanese and Korean people and communities around, should my ability in those languages develop to the point where I could use them. Frankly, I'd be thrilled just to be able to read the menus and order a meal in those languages. I already find myself "decoding" Korean and Japanese writing here on YT and elsewhere, for example on music video posts. Anyway, in my fairly unusual case, it makes sense to learn them both at once, since there is actually some question about whether there is time to learn them sequentially.
I am more motivated and I have more fun learning the languages I like than studying my career haha. For example, I was never motivated to learn English, I understand it well, I studied it since I was 6 years old because it is necessary, but to write this I needed to translate because I am still struggling with grammar. I can still see a whole movie in English and understand it, but I can't speak. This teaches me how important it is to practice the language, and I will do it with the languages I am learning. (I'm obviously not proud of my level of English, but it would be nice to be able to improve it one day if I could speak with native speakers for a while, that would motivate me to improve it). So, don't forget to practice what you are learning, even if it's a talk with yourselves.
Nice advice! Applies to any related languages. I was REALLY good at Korean and even made a video in Korean but forgot so much now. Plus side is that its helped so much with Japanese now
For a while now, I' ve been thinking onlearning an eat asnian language. Korean just sounds good to my ear and I'm really interested in the food culture. However, I've been catching up with some anime recently and I just really want to understand everything they are talking about without my eyes going crazy. I can't decide between the two languages because I really want to lean both but I feel like learning these two at a time is completely nuts. I'm at this point where I think Japanese would open more doors to me but my brain still wants to learn Korean. And it would be the same thing if it was the opposte situation
Living in Belgium, trying to study Korean: Are there more Korean or Japanese people around. Neither. Are there more Korean or Japanese resources? Neither. Are there more Korean or Japanese classes available? Neither (maybe 1 Japanese at a university? But definitely no Korean) Is there a Korean or Japanese community? Nope. Guess I'll stick to the internet 😅
As a Korean expat living in Belgium, most of the Koreans in Belgium reside in Brussels and some in Antwerp. And there are a few Korean exchange students in university cities such as Gent and Leuven as well. I agree that there are not many Koreans in Belgium, compared to the neighboring countries(France, UK, Germany and the Netherlands), but I guess there are more Koreans than Japanese in Belgium…? I’m not quite sure tho. Btw you can find some online Korean communities on FB and some basic Korean courses in big cities(My Belgian bf registered for one). Hope this will be helpful at least a little bit.
@@dani_aroundtheworld I live in the area of Hasselt so Brussels and Antwerp are not really close. Good to know, though. And I think Japanese has been popularized for far longer than Korean due to anime, etc. which may be why it is easier to find lessons, regardless of the population size. Studying alone has its perks, though. I get to truly marvel at the language in detail when I would otherwise have to rush through 😄
There is a large Japanese community in Bangkok where I live and Thailand (Siam) share a history with japan dating back 500 years or so... easy pick for me. Korean is interesting and one I've never considered since my sisters annoy me with K-pop and bts fangirling, but now it's grown on me
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i’m korean and the mistake i see a lot of people make is choosing korean because it has an easier alphabet. while that’s true since you can kind of learn the korean alphabet in just a day, the thing is learning anything, let alone something as complex and wide-encompassing as a whole language, gets quite difficult at times and you’ll struggle to stay motivated and keep going through those times if you’re learning korean for the sole reason that it has the easier alphabet of the two as opposed to if you were learning it for a more personal reason like learning it because you are a big fan of kpop or your partner/best friend/family is korean, and so on.
Very true!
True, but learner like me, don't have neither language partners or working goals in both japanese and korean, so i'm planning to stack when i,ve learn enough korean, rate of learning is slow though but still moving none the less.. Since i did watched plenty of japanese animes during childhood, i got quite some passive learning of japanese. So will work on it later.
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@@sulemanahmed2997 bad day? lmao
That's true. I knew that korean wasn't going to be easy but I'm lossing motivation to learn because I'm starting to wonder if someday I will really be able to speak or understand at least a kpop song or maybe a daily conversation.
I believe you should learn the language that interests you, no matter what it is. Interest is the most important factor in learning a language. There is no tough language if you are interested in it.
True 💜🤞🏾
Yeah, my family’s been supportive that I’m learning Korean but they do get concerned because it’s not necessarily the most practical language that I’m gonna be able to use often like, say, Spanish. And I get that, and even thought if it was a good idea myself but I realized it’s what I’m interested in and honestly I’ve never been this consistent with anything. I really enjoy learning it even with the difficult to grasp aspects which is how I know I made the right choice.
@@rose2654 me too! I’m also learning Korean and sometimes I felt that Spanish would make more sense since I have more experience with it and already know the basics. Korean is so interesting I can study it for hours on end and it doesn’t feel like a chore. I think I made the right decision learning Korean as well
korean is objectively better despite the flaws
honestly many of you will lose interest in either languages, when you start learning it for couple months. I tried to learn French, lost interest after 3 months.
*As a Korean teacher and Japanese learner, I'm confident to say "motivation is the key" 😄😄 Without motivation, it's so hard to master a language. If there is something that motivates you to learn Korean like BTS or Korean drama, study Korean !! If there is something that motivates you to learn Japanese like Anime or Japanese food/culture, study Japanese !! But whatever you study, don't give up 😉😉*
What if there is something that motivates you to learn both haha. I am struggling to make a choice, because I can speak five languages right now very well, but also wanna learn Korean and Japanese. I love K dramas and have a Korean friend who is ready to help me and I love watching Anime in Japanese. I am scared that If I learn more languages, I will lose the ones I already speak.
Absolutely and to find the real reasons and some maturoty of your choice. I have to say I have questioned myself a lot of times about which East Asian language I would like to learn first. Finally I've chosen Bahasa Indonesia, my Asian teenage passion language but at the time, I was influencable and I've heard 'Oh that's a useless language!' and other things like that. Then I'm going to see if I want to learn another East Asian language (between Mandarin Japanese, Korean).
@@AfroLinguo You are right. You may lose the languages that you don't speak as often. However, you won't completely lose it so I don't think you need to worry. Here is my advice. If you like both, study both !! They are similar. I find Japanese so much easier than learning English because of my Korean background :)
@@EdibleKoreanTeacher Thanks a lot. I will definitely learn both and find a way to integrate all my languages in my daily life so I don’t lose them
my motivation was infinite challenge and now i can watch the show without subtitles and i'm so happy!
She did it! Someone finally achieved Time Travel !
@@Abeturk umm why?
@@Abeturk well I noticed you were explaining grammar, but I just didn't understand why you were doing it under my comment specifically
@@Abeturk you want me to learn Turkish? 👀
😂😂😂😂I get it
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My father is a Korean and my mother is Japanese. They are both fluent in both languages. And my wife is an American who can read and speak Korean little bit, and she is trying to learn Japanese as a hobby. I need to tell her to learn Japanese with a text book written in Korean. Thank you for this video.
Oh wow this is nice XD to be surrounded by all these languages.
I have many friends who are inter-national couples like your parents and many have small children so I'd like to ask you a few questions, if you don't mind. Did your mother speak Japanese to you when you were a child? Did she send you to formal Japanese language lessons? And what about your father, didn't he try to talk to you in Korean as you were growing up? Any attempts to have you study Korean formally? If the answer is yes to both questions, which do you think you are more proficient at/more comfortable with?
I hope it isn't a bother. Thanks.
I started learning Korean 4.5 years after I started Japanese, and I feel that knowing kanji has given me a huge head start. When learning new Korean vocab I usually look up the hanja as well and it really helps things stick for me. In Japanese I can often guess the meaning of words I’ve not seen before if I know the kanji, and I’ve been able to approximate that in Korean by knowing how hanja pronunciations typically compare to kanji pronunciation. And somehow this mental exercise just ends up reenforcing the vocab in both languages for me
Here are my experiences with starting with Japanese and Korean, maybe someone can relate :)
I started to learn Japanese a while ago and I know some basic Japanese. But then I also wanted to learn Korean and wanted to choose only one of them to completely focus on because I noticed that it wasn’t so easy to really separate them for learning, especially as a beginner (some things I knew in one language and other things in the other one). But now I decided to go with Korean because I have so much motivation right now for Korean, I think that’s because it’s a new language that I don’t now yet :) Also I heard that often you can hear it when Japanese learner learn and speak Korean after learning Japanese.
Having only to know one alphabet makes reading really easy although after understanding the concept I still needed a lot of practice to be able to read it easily. (In the beginning I took so long for one word because I didn’t know the characters well so that at the end of a word I already forgot what the beginning of the word was. I wasn’t familiar with the sounds too. But now it’s a lot easier.)
Anyway, the bit of Japanese really helped me a lot in the beginning because it was easy to understand the concept, particles etc. But I also experienced that somehow Korean vocabulary was so much harder to remember! The sounds are pretty unfamiliar to me and every word sounded so similar to me, idk I couldn’t really grasp the words.
Japanese is or was a lot easier for me to hear the sounds because the sounds are sort of similar to my native language and the syllable concept was easy to understand. While Korean does also have new consonants and one after another, unlike Japanese. The same goes for the pronunciation, Japanese is a lot more easier to pronounce and to read out for me. But I think that’s just practice and it keeps getting better by engaging with the language. Maybe I just had more practice in Japanese listening because I’ve watched a lot of animes while Korean was completely new to me.
I really enjoy learning Korean at the moment, even more than Japanese just because Korean seems more difficult to me because of the reasons I stated above! Japanese sound system was pretty easy but in Korean, I needed to learn how to make the new sounds etc. It’s like a riddle that I like to solve :)
Anyway, this comment is really long but I just wanted to share my beginner experiences. Knowing a bit of Japanese definitely helped me a lot with beginning with Korean and I already know some Hanjas now too because of the Kanji. But now I want to focus on Korean because I find it more fun at the moment. But after I know some Korean I will definitely get back to Japanese.
Edit: if there are any grammar mistakes or anything in the comment feel free to correct me because I like to improve :P
Edit #2 to make the comment even longer: It’s been a few months now and I can say now that I’ve been learning Korean for one year. And rewatching videos I watched when I started learning Korean makes me realize that I can grasp and understand so much more! And I can have a very basic conversation. I’m so excited to see my progress and if gives me further motivation to continue learning :)) Also, I realized that I can read Hangul much more easily but I still need a bit of time for new words but I guess that’s the same for everyone haha
I agree with what you say except the fact that when you learn korean after japanese, then you’re prononciation in korean will sound japanese. I think it’s also the case for the contrary so if you learn korean and after that japanese your pronounciation will be a little weird too. That’s what I’m gonna do actually, learning korean after japanese(My japanese is now a little lower than the N3)
@@xxxj4s279 That might be, i don't know. It's just something that I've heard. But go with what you like!
Yess I totally relate! I also started learning Korean after a few years of studying Japanese and I’ve encountered the same struggles with remembering words in 한글 and their pronunciation
But the deeper you go into Japanese, the higher your chances of getting a stroke.
Moreover, it is a very difficult language if not exposed to real life for decades, such as Chinese with a high level of difficulty like Japanese, and it is even more difficult to develop to an advanced level to become an expert.
Omg I can relate so well, but I have yet to start Korean:))
Many people use language stacking on Duolingo by learning Spanish to learn Catalan which is only available to Spanish speakers. Pretty soon when Cantonese comes out for Mandarin Chinese speakers, people are going to learn Mandarin Chinese to learn Cantonese.
this is so hard for me because both japanese and korean are fascinating languages to me. i consume a fair amount of media from both languages and i also would like to visit both places. i really can't decide which one to learn.
i have the same problem, and because i am so indecisive im still beginner in both even after 4 years (i could've come so far by now :( )
I have the exact same problem! I love kdramas, kmusic, and korean comics but at the same time I love anime and japanese manga so its a hard choice! But I think I'll learn korean first because I think I will be a little more motivated to understand the shows and watch without subtitles
@@v3n4ryis it because you did not work hard? or keep too much give up that causing your level become neutral?
@@OkIdk-ww9kt no for me its just that i was ( i moved on and stopped leraning them completely) so indecisive with these two that whenever i started with one of them, i wanted to learn the other. But because of school back then and work now, my energy to lean even justt one language was of course pretty low.
I struggled with this question a few weeks ago as I I’m learning Japanese because I like the language but I found more opportunities to study in Korea. After watching a few Korean lessons I couldn’t bring myself to study it. I just love studying kanji and I feel more motivation to study it. So I agree with motivation and enjoyment being one important reason to choose either language 🙌🏼
I'm facing the same problem now, I fell in love with Japanese because of listening to music and thought I was ready to spend all my time learning it, but it feels like I have more opportunities with Korean.
Now I'm learning Korean with a new friend and I left Japanese for later, for free time and soul.
How is your language learning progressing?
were you able to master it? im stuck between japanese or korean but i feel more motivated to studt japanese as ive alreadt started learning basic words and stuff and learning korean isnt the same so im planning on focusing on my japanese learning
Just my opinion: Starting with Japanese gets your mind a little too fixated on the simple syllables/pronounciation so that when you try Korean it's going to FEEL much harder to pronounce, despite it having a similar grammar/easier writing system. This is coming from someone who was too used to Japanese to manage Korean whatsoever and quit lol
I can offer perspective on the flip side - I've studied and absorbed Korean for 3 years now and started studying Japanese (restarting at a beginner level after trying many years ago) really recently. While studying Korean I always felt like grammar/sentence patterns were unintuitive and difficult to internalize, and pronunciation and conjugation took a while to get used to. Studying Korean felt like training with weights attached to my body lol. Now that I'm studying Japanese, it feels as if I'm free of those weights, like I have this huge advantage because the pronunciation is so much simpler, and the grammar is so similar to Korean that it feels like a piece of cake. Only difference is the kanji, but having studied Chinese as well it's actually kinda reassuring to have these familiar characters lol.
@@chuuri Absolutely! I agree completely. Starting with Korean will DEFINITELY give you an advantage!
Omg thank you for this response its been really difficult for me to choose one and I've been learning basic words of each language over a year, according to all the comments I've already read its easier to do Korean first and then try to learn Japanese so I think I will pursue that, even though im native in Spanish and there are more resources to learn Japanese rather than Korean this comment made me reassure that, thank you again!
this happened to me omg!!! and i just realized recently! i started learning japanese first and now am only learning korean and that’s exactly how it was and still is a little bit for me. i was like why does it seem so hard to pronounce korean correctly and was told that i read korean writing like it’s japanese 😭
Seeing that even I as a native Korean speaker myself struggle pronouncing some words it's nearly impossible to imagine how difficult it'd be for the ones learning the language. Such as this word 엉망진창- (ungmangjinchang, is apparently used so wide nowadays but yet many natives barely say it correctly
Both! As a Japanese person who has studied Chinese too, I feel like there's no excuse to not learn Korean. I'm not saying Korean is easy, but Japanese and Korean is very similar in many ways.
I'm an native English speaker from America. I've been learning mandarin for 14 months and korean for about 12 months on and off. Someone asked me what's the difference and I had Compared korean to japanese.
Although I'm only a beginner and I don't know much about the culture, it's nice to see that I was correct with my judgement. Its nice to know that I didn't tell this person anything wrong
HI FRIENDSHIPS 🐷🇯🇵
korean is better than japanese for westerners
Korea and Japan in ancient Eastern Europe inherited and used "Chinese characters" from the then-powerful China, and Japanese is used only by using some of the words "Chinese characters" to date, while Korea became meaningful when "King Sejong" completely independent of Chinese characters in the mid-Joseon period. The point of note in this section is that "Chinese" and "Chinese" are different.
@Brian Kim Korean and Japanese are grammatically completely consistent, and vocabulary is often similar or completely consistent, so it is not too difficult to learn each other's languages in both countries. I don't know about the Japanese, but since I am Korean, the average Korean can completely master basic Japanese speaking within two or three months.
On the other hand, there are quite a few parts of Japanese pronunciation that cannot be pronounced properly in Korea, so it is not enough to completely master.
You should learn both 😉
I started learning japanese and korean at the same time because... I just wanted to haha. But also I thought that since there are some similarities it wouldn't be a bad idea to learn concurrently, although some people might think the opposite. It's been fun though!
Exactly. I feel like many people think they can learn only one language. But actually, one can learn several languages. You must not learn them at the same time. You can learn one for a couple years to fluency and then do the same for the next language. That is what I did for German and Chinese.
Where u learn them?? Hey please 🙏 reply???
@@AfroLinguo where u learn language..??? At university???? .... Hey!!!i also wantts to learn Korean and french can u tell me do we have to go university to learn them???
@@uvfire i use lingodeer, you can also use coursera for uni
@@user-xl5bb9hb8b okay thank u 🥰
OMG THIS VIDEO IS WHAT I NEED RIGHT NOW!!! THANK YOU LINDIE
X2!!
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I'm learning korean and english a same time. 💪Fighting.
good luck
Fighting ㅋㅋㅋ
Good luck
Can we be friends
this is slightly off topic BUT you’re earrings are adorable :)
Thank you! My friend made them :D I love cheese
Or should you say...
Off TOPIK
HAHAHAHA
Her earrings are always so pretty.
Love this video! I started learning Thai because my church has a Thai congregation. I humbly sit and fellowship with the Thai people after service and try to learn throughout the week. I’m hoping that if I can go to Thailand this summer, I will be A2
I picked Korean for the sole reason that I'm genuinely interested in the culture (not just kpop and kdrama as some people may assume about Korean learners). I know that Korean resources are a bit harder to find than in Japanese. I have a pretty good collection of Korean books currently. Also this may sound weird, but I understand Korean better than Japanese. Also Korean TV shows are easier to find (that's just my opinion).
Hey can you suggest resources for Japanese? I have the opposite situation - I found really good resources for korean and couldn't find for Japanese
What kind of culture interested you the most? I'm just curious as a Korean haha
i have been learning Japanese for 8 years and I'm still at beginner stage (not even n5)
i obviously took pauses but most importantly i focused to much in grammar and neglected vocabulary A LOT.
after this almost 8 years my passion didn't go away i just finally figured out how to study it correctly.
if you study Japanese you will definitely not regret it😊
I wanted to study at a Japanese university but now I don't want nether to sudy there nor to live there but i still love the language.
now I'm taking a break form Japanese for 2 months to focus on intense Korean and Chinese study but Japanese will always be special to be i literally grew up with the language 🥺 form 11 to almost 18 years
I feel you too since we have the same amount of learning time xD
I'm stuck at a level (around n4-3) and it's really hard to pass it. Mostly importantly sometimes I'm disappointed in myself for forgetting how to write 漢字 D:
Also the fact I'm so slow at writing really bother me don't cha?
@@hiranokyomi don't worry take your time.
in my case i found out that i have no problems finding resources in fact i have a lot of them for every aspect of the language but i struggle to PASS beginner.
this 2 month intensive Korean and Chinese is to finally pass beginner stage and enter intermediate
8 years and still at beginners level? What kind of breaks do you take? Sorry if it sounds rude but that sounds pretty disheartening to us who are trying to learn the language😅
@@jjjd1292 there are multiple reasons, they might learn on their own, they might have a job which doesn't allow them to study much, they might have been through "self problems" that can't be fixed in one clap...
If you really want to learn and do something just never give up no matter what! It's not because that person said that it should impact your learning 😊✨
Stay determinated.
japanese is the hardest language ever like hebrew, arabian, indonesian, that, tibetan and chinese.
I've tried studying both Korean and Japanese in the past, but ultimately my heart chose Mandarin. I think that I'd like to eventually study one of them again, but I want to get my Mandarin to a high level first.
加油！
WTF JUST HAPPENED, THIS IS EXACTLY THE DILEMMA I'VE BEEN HAVING FOR THE PAST 3 WEEKS!!! thank you sm
Both languages are so cool. I feel like even after learning both and speaking them fluently, I will then find new ones to learn and lose the ones I can already speak.
@@AfroLinguo i think it's true that there will be always new languages to learn, but about losing the ones i can already speak.. i feel like once you learn a language, it will always be there, in your passive memory. of course if you stop speaking them or lose your chance to practise them, you will start to slowly forget. but once you decide to learn them again, you realise you remember much more than you thought, you'll just have to "wake up" the language in your mind..:))
@@tonyyy5767 Thanks for the encouragement. I guess I need to create and environment for myself where I use all my languages daily
@@AfroLinguo you're welcome:Dd
to be surrounded by your targer languages is definitely one of the best ways to learn it- i can personally recommend switching your phone to that language or even better convince your friend to learn it with you (you can use it as a secret language hah), it's much more fun:))
@@tonyyy5767 I have started watching more netflix shows in Chinese to improve my Chinese. Thanks for the advice.
As a Japanese, I have a Korean friends and they taught me Korean. Learning Korean is fun! Korean grammer is similar to Japanese so it is easy for me to translate and understand the structure of the sentence. But...pronunciation is totally different. For Japanese, Spanish and Italian is much easier to copy it's accent! Well, my advice is you should definitely study Chinese characters to master either Japanese or Korean. Most of vocabularies had been brought through these Chinese characters and by learning these Chinese characters will really help you to understand our way to "see things". Good luck!
韓国語と日本語はネイティブのように話すためにはかなりの努力が必要ですね。
한국어 공부하는데 한자는 하나도 필요없습니다.
한국어의 단어 대부분은 한자에서 왔기에 한자를 알면 이해하기 쉽고 많은 도움이 됩니다.@@zkhjig12
I've been learning Japanese for over 10 years (well I haven't really 'studied' for a while now, just live in the language) and I started learning korean a couple of years ago. Although Japanese helps me a lot with learning Korean, especially with vocabulary, I find Korean a LOT harder to grasp than Japanese. The grammar despite being similar (so particles in particular took about 5 mins to learn) is a lot harder for me in Korean and the pronunciation is a lot harder too. So I feel if you learn Korean first, Japanese afterwards will seem quite easy.
Maybe.
I agree, I struggle with pronunciation. I have been studying Japanese for a few years.
Yeah I’ve been learning Korean for a year and 4 months roughly and I’ve gotten to upper intermediate ✨ now looking at Japanese, there are so many similarities?? I’ve started learning it yesterday and it looks like it’s going to be easier thanks to knowing Korean
so I should learn korean THAN japanese? I am accually wondering please tell me what I should learn fist. I will learn both and I dont care which one I start with but I need to know wich one I should learn fist!!! PLEASE HELP. (and dont say "whatever u want" please tell me what u think will be easier)☺
i started lerning a little bit of japanese but its not to late to switch to korean and i need to know if i should.
@@myself7232 I think if you've already started learning Japanese, stick with that! The writing system for Japanese is harder than Korean by far although once you get the hang of kanji you can often understand new words in reading without looking in the dictionary. It would also help in learning Korean so could be a good idea to get it out the way first.
@@xNintenJenx Oh ok!!! Japanese then korean it is!!!
What's funny is, I went against my first mind and decided to learn Japanese first. Then after I found myself listening to hours and hours of K-Pop, watching interviews in Korean, etc., I began to think, "Crap I should've done Korean first!" It's always calling my name too... 😣
But I'm glad because I think Japanese will prepare me for Korean when I'm finally ready to study it. 😊 Thanks to present and past Lindie! You're both awesome! 😆🤗🤗
Are you still learning Korean and Japanese?
This is my current situation. I really want to learn Korean but I think I would start with japanese.
I hope I don't regret it even though I know learning something new about a language would never be a regret.
I just really like these two languages. I whish I had been naturally exposed to them at a younger age.
same problem with mine, I study Japanese but listening to KPop and watching KDramas
I'm Korean teacher! I saw your other video too. I think you seem to be a language genius with language skills! I'm also interested in studying languages, but studying various languages is hard.
To add a little bit of my opinion, " I think it is important not to give up on studying language and to repeat it constantly. "
So, to master a language, " you will have to believe it and repeat it without asking any reason. "
I enjoyed the video! Have a great day! :)
'' Without asking any reason''
Its so true!! Sometimes native speaker dont know the reason as well 😂 Obey and follow is the only way 😂 DONT ASK WHY 😂
@@yinzhipua3595 Yeah haha I'm a native Korean speaker but still can't get over how to distinguish 가/이 and 은/는 since they both have the same usage yet are somehow used so differently.
i will learn korean and then japanese. at the moment my passion is for korean. i love how it looks and how it sounds spoken and sung. as it becomes more familiar, it becomes more lovely. eventually i want to learn mandarin too, xD.
but i know i will learn them one at a time❤️
now what is your level korean?
I'm starting to go back and actually study japanese again. I've took 3 years of japanese during high school and afterwards just never focused on improving upon it. I've just been immersing myself in the language watching anime, watching drama, watching documentary/news, listening to the music, etc.
I tried learning korean and I found that it is similar to learning japanese. Those 3 years of japanese actually helped, I might have forgotten what I learned but I still remembered how I learned a new language.
Could you make a video on how you learned korean talking about what resources you used to do so?
I have a few of those videos!
I’ve studied both Japanese and Korean at various times of my life. First Japanese, then a break and then Korean. My Korean was at a higher level than my Japanese and I’ve travelled to Korea and have more experience speaking it, but I haven’t been maintaining my skills the past year and I remember so little. I don’t watch Korean shows or talk in Korean so I don’t have exposure to the language. On the other hand, I’ve been watching a bunch of anime in the past year without studying any language and it has rekindled my passion for Japanese. It’s just that I don’t know which language to choose😂 Japanese so I can watch anime now and travel there in the future (maybe live/work there for a bit); or Korean, where I would like to study (as unlikely as it is to occur) and would love to live and work there too. So it’s basically Japanese with instant gratification and lots of exposure (from Anime and Japanese music) or Korean with benefits in a few years maybe and no real exposure until then (no shows, music)😂😂 so since I can’t choose I’m just not learning anything.
I think you should learn both at the same time. Japanese for an hour and Korean an hour. Once you've got to an intermediate level in both languages live in Japan and Korea for some time and see which one prefer. And make sure to be consistent and don't give up. Watch Anime with subtitles and watch K-pop dramas with subtitles. Also watch this video it tells you how you should learn a language. th-cam.com/video/gjZMomXs35Q/w-d-xo.html
I'm in the same situation
I’m learning Japanese because this language is challenging and I’m loving it
I want to learn it,, please help
I can speak 5 languages. American, British, Australian, Canadian, and Korean. Thank you.
I see you liked your own comment 😂
Good on you 👍🏻
I still can’t decide and i do nothing... i mean i get demotivated from the fact that everyone says ASIAN LANGUAGES CANT BE SELFTAUGHT. Im currently on Albania, here are no good courses for Japanese/korean so the only way is by watching videos like this, which are very helpful but im still not sure if i should start or would i ever get any results.
I'm also Eastern European and the lack of schools and textbooks here is so demotivating, especially when everyone says that languages like Korean and Japanese (both of which I wanna learn, obviously) can't be self - taught. But believe me, focusing on online resources and building a schedule is so useful. I have picked up Japanese first and I want to start learning Korean by next year. For Japanese, use good apps like Lingodeer, where the grammar is explained impeccably, LingQ, Rosetta Stone and Quizlet.I revise by writing and memorise 10-15 kanjis per day with Anki. Besides that, I try to get as much immersion as possible, also, watching Japanese people explain stuff that's not in textbooks, like the use of あなた is so helpful.If you have Netflix, watching American movies and documentaires with Japanese dubs can also help, besides watching animé and listening to Japanese music (Japanese rock bands are amazing, one of them became my all time fav). Anyways, sorry for this long message, but I really hope this advice can help you.
@@varlanvitalina7155 im so happy people like u exist. Thank u so much for the advices, i plan on starting with japanese too cuz i find it more interesting. I hope i will do good.
Start with Korean only. I am learning Japanese and at the level N3 and just now started with Korean language. Japanese is way much harder than Korean and you can not self taught this language whereas for Korean, its very easy to learn hangul, read and write. Listening can be easily practiced by watching many interesting Kdramas. take your time and start learning. All the best.
@@aileen8492 oof both are difficult.
Those people probably never learnt either languages or failed at some point because they gave up on their dreams.....English is fundamentaly different from my native language yet I have managed to learn it and now I am studying Korean.
My native language is Amharic by the way.
Very useful points; they make a lot of sense! I like watching anime and Kdramas, enjoy listening to the two languages and would love to be able to understand them both. I started with Japanese as I was more interested in it at first, but found that I later considered learning Korean, too. Not studying either atm, but I feel that I would continue with Japanese and learn Korean later. I think I would have more motivation to learn Japanese, I still have contacts from when I was actively learning, and personally feel that I'd be able to pronounce it better, too.
I was so excited when I heard her talk about the language stacking concept and then I heard her say she studied one for 8-9 YEARS before starting the other :( I have a long long long way to go and I'm already old, the struggle lol
Honestly this was really useful, the main thing I struggle with is motivation but the way you made me think about the fact my dream has always been to live in Japan made me more motivated to learn it again. As much as I love the Korean language as a whole, I am gonna do what you said and start with Japanese as I see myself living in Japan in the future.
You are very good at both languages. I can hear your Korean accent in your Japanese. That's amazing!
I could hear her Japanese accent in her Korean lol
This is my experience as a native spanish speaker who studied basic japanese and basic korean. (because I love them both!). First, It's not a good idea to learn them at the same time because they seem very similar and words frequently get mixed up.
Now, if you already have good listening skills (like being able to tell apart all the 19+ english consonants and more than 5 vowel sounds) and are good at memorizing pronunciation rules, Korean will be easier to learn with the help of Hangul (korean alphabet). So having a lot of written resources to learn the language is key.
On the other hand, if you already have good visual memory or enjoy drawing, learning Japanese alphabets and ideograms will be less of a hassle. (I managed to learn both alphabets in just a week)
Since spoken Japanese is easier to understand and pronounce, having a lot of spoken input is key in learning the language. That is, you should try to learn it mainly from listening and repeating. If you can't get a language partner to help you, there are good audio courses out there. Focus on listening (music, anime for kids, youtubers, etc anything that interests you) until you have a good grasp of basic vocabulary and grammar. Then you can use textbooks to help you figure out everything you learned intuitively so far.
One little problem I have when learning korean is that some consonants are pronounced in 2 different ways but they don't change the word meaning. For example, [ㄷ] which sometimes sounds like a soft 'd' and other times like a soft 't' and there is also [ㄴ] which sometimes sounds like 'n', and other times like a soft 'd'. So I confuse sometimes words with [ㄷ] and [ㄴ]. I think this is because in Spanish soft 't' and soft 'd' do change the meaning of the words. Like 'dato' (= fact) and 'dado' (= dice).
I find this video interesting because this arguable the most asked question on this channel XD haha Anyone who is new to this channel would see Korean and Japanese videos and wanna do both and this should be one of the main featured videos for these questions XD
I want to teach English to foreign people, so knowing as many languages as possible would be awesome. So, both I suppose. Korean first because I love it the most and it's harder. I already know some Japanese.
When you're such an expert in language learning that the only person you would ask for advice is yourself.
This was a charming format for a video!
I'm learning Japanese and found this information very enlightening. Perhaps I should try language stacking with my French 🤔
You're great at both languages. Your pronunciation is really good!
This was actually incredibly useful! I'm not even going to study Japanese or Korean (for now), I'm focusing on Spanish and I really want to learn Portuguese but I'm holding myself back as I know it's going to be easier if I advance in Spanish first. Your tip on studying one through the other can be applied here too. It doesn't make sense studying Portuguese through English when I can do it through Spanish. Thanks!
P.S. The video format was entertaining and enjoyable to watch. 😊
Hi, I'm a native spanish speaker and I speak japanese and learning korean XD, I can tell you that spanish it's pretty hard but still similar to english, the korean and japanese have a total different grammar to western lenguages structure but they are similar between them, not quite accurerate but it helps, spanish are so similar to portuguese, I can even understand it without know it, keep fighting!
I'm a portuguese speaker (from Brazil) and portuguese is just as hard as spanish hahahah, but don't give up!! they're both beautiful languages and worth your efforts
Learn portuguese from brazil, portuguese of portugal is a little bit more difficult
this comment is LITERALLY me right now. even got it right with the Portuguese part
@@vedell8570 literally same
As I am Korean teacher, most of foreigners are confused with particles. 은는이가 is Korean particles and Japanese has same like Korean. So if you study Korean and Japanese at the same time, it will helpful. Also similar pronunciation between Korean and Japanese, Chinese and Korean. But also Chinese and Japanese are same character writing over 30%(different pronunciation) Japanese writing is easier than Chinese. Japanese and Korean has too many conjugation for verbs. Chinese is much simple to make sentences compared to Japand Korean.
The brave choice: Both! 😝
After a long and stressful day at work, this video is what I need to take some time off
ありがとうございます🌹
I’ve been studying Japanese for a year now, and started Korean almost 2 months ago. Your vids are inspiring and helpful, thank you.
It is so funny, I just found your Hungarian language video (I'm Hungarian), and I wanted to look up what other videos you do. I have been studying Japanese for the past 10 years on and off and I started learning Korean not long ago lol I wouldnt think based on this video you are into Hungarian... :D I actually decided to try studying Korean through Japanese, so thank you!!
Your fluency and pronunciation is spot on.
I really like that you mentioned learning Japanese using a Korean textbook is easier on brain than using English as a reference language! Makes sense!
I really enjoyed your video Lindie. Thank you for posting this it answered a lot of questions about Learning Korean vs Japanese.
I have been learning Korean for a year now and I LOVE IT!!!! I use TTMIK and Go Billy Korean textbooks plus tons of TH-cam videos, kdramas, KPop, and anything I can get my hands on. I absolutely agree you need to be motivated to learning the language cuz there have been too many times I almost threw in the towel! Learning Hangeul was easy but then you have to learn how to pronounce it correctly with their sound change rules and 받침! Hair was ripped out during this learning time. I still go back and re-study 받침 so as I get more familiar with it. Korean is HARD but absolutely worth it.
One of the reasons I came across your video is that I’m interested in learning Japanese at some point and I really enjoy your advice in getting to intermediate level in Korean and learn Japanese by using Korean materials. That is brilliant! Hopefully I’ll get there. I LOVE hearing Japanese spoken. Japanese is the Asian form of the French language, it’s pretty.
감사합니다😄
Aside from having more of a reason to learn Japanese, I think what tipped the balances for me favouring Japanese is how reading works.
In Japanese you generally* read linearly left to right, like this:
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In Korean you need to have very skilled eyes where you can read like this:
>> / >>
/ / /
>> / >>
What makes it harder is sometimes in Korean you have to read into the next character cluster before reading the bottom left and bottom right characters in the current cluster.
It’s pretty awkward to learn that from being an English speaker, but I’m sure it just takes practice.
Finally you post a new video! Yeay!
Thanks for waiting! Last week was so busy for me hehe
i'm studying korean AND chinese at uni (well, i self-studied for 3 years but it feels nice to have structured lessons) but i wanna learn japanese despite having no room for it right now :( i'm definitely gonna resume learning japanese in the future again, but i struggle in finding motivation as i don't have any japanese content i enjoy except for indie bands, which i rarely listen to anymore... i also embarrassingly feel like i'm running out of time, even though i'm 17. maybe i'll travel to japan one day because i LOVE the nature there but part of me is too scared i'll be unlucky enough to have a tsunami happen when i'm there. WAIT i found my motivation... my favourite author is haruki murakami and i wanna read his works in their original language. okay i'll leave my 혼잣말 until here... thank you for this video as i unintentionally just found my motivation LMAO
Nooo, there's so much time left!! Imagine that when you're 22 you'll have already studied the language for five years!! (which is A LOT) and you'll still continue to be so young! Plus, it's never late to start something. Start today and tomorrow you'll be better than if you hadn't started at all.
Also... Could you give me the name of some indie bands? That really caught my attention as well (I'm also a Japanese student and started when I was almost 20 :))
Right!!! Structured lessons are so helpful. I learn languages mostly with a teacher. I had a teacher to learn German and now I have one to learn Chinese and I can now speak both German and Chinese. Having a teacher is so helpful.
Hy can u tell me where u learn languages???? 🙏🙏
@@uvfire sorry that I didn’t answer earlier. I was studying for my exams haha. I don’t learn at university. I use this website called “italki” to find a cheap tutor who can teach me.
@@AfroLinguo thanks.. So can i find tutor for me too there.. Or can we become fluent if we don't learn it at university but get a tutor????..how much time it will take to learn a language???
I learned english to be able to use text books in english to learn japanese and it was the best thing I did, I cant wait to play games in japanese without having to find a translation! My motivation always goes "If I managed to learn english then I can do anything!".
Korean is still easier than learning Japanese. Why? Because you can read Korean in 1 day. It takes years of Kanji study to read Japanese effectively. By reading, you can learn a ton of vocabulary, except you can't do that in Japanese without knowing the Kanji so flash cards and repetition take a lot more time in Japanese.
The ONLY thing that Korean has an edge over in terms of difficulty is it's harder to pronounce when speaking, there's more sounds/vowels. Japanese pitch accents are easy as hell by comparison.
I studied Japanese for about 2000 - 2800 accumulated study hours and in less than 8 study hours of Korean I was able to learn the entire alphabet and a dozen words.
im not into anime and i cant really tell i listen to japanese music but stay with me by miki matsubara really effected me and i really wanted to learn japanese but i stan blackpink for four years and watching their interviews,listening to their songs prepared me to korean. i am used to it.but i really want to learn japanese. for past two weeks im learning both but whenever i switch languages i feel guilty for not even being able to make a decision. for my circumctances i should stick with the korean but i just cant focus to it. in the deep down i really wanna learn japanese i already learned 20 hiragana but theres alot more even just in hiragana and there is katakana,kanji. it's mentally challenging for me. i really dont know what to do.
OMG we have an identical situation😭 i know it'll be smoother for me learning korean coz i'm so used to it as a kpop enjoyer and i wanna understand my boys (TXT), but i love japanese culture more and want to go there someday. however i refuse to learn both because its gonna be too overwhelming. its such a dilemma...
@@tornedsky SAMEEE i decided not to learn either of them ahahahaha
I did both Japanese writing systems and some kanji then tried Korean. If you're going to do both start Korean so you do not get used to the syllable pronunciation of Japanese..
6:04 Turkish is one of the languages that also functions like that!
You’re answering what I need to know rn, thank you for you two, past Lindie and present Lindie ❤️❤️❤️
You should learn Korean of course! You can enjoy lots of Korean movies and TV Shows!
btw, you already speak pretty good Korean. And of course, your question is for the viewers.
I can help people with their Korean learning.
I have been learning both japanese and korean currently. For japanese actually i've learned that languange before, so i still familiar with the kana alphabets and some japanese words. But with korean, i'm still a newbie. So, i still learning the hangeul alphabets.
this video was so interesting! personally before starting university where i study both, i started with korean studying by myself (i couldn’t find any classes) and then i also started attending japanese classes organised by a cultural association in the city where i went to high school. this was during my gap year, i wanted to start studying by myself before uni, and tbh since i was a beginner in both languages it was kinda difficult, but now here at uni we do korean 6 hours a week and japanese 2 hours a week, so now that i’m definitely more fluent in korean than in japanese it’s way easier to learn similar words and new grammar structures
I'm Korean learning Japanese, and now l'm learning Japanese with lots of joy than other languages l've ever learned😂
What other languages have you tried learning if I may ask?
from Korean tutor's view.
I also recommend you to get intermidiate level of Korean or Japnese first as lindie said.
1) Learning Japanese first and then Korean for English/ indo-european speakers.
: easy and quick to get indermidiate level in 6 months.
: feels easy to read letter system.
: very easy to undersatnd Korean (intermidiate) vocaburaries
: quite easy to understand adjective concepts when you are learning japanese.
but, hard to understand Korean adjective concept for beginner.
specially still confusing about Conjugations of " to be, Adjective, Verb"
: having more paticles than japanese depends on prounciations of Noun.
: Problems/Hard to fix your Prounciation and ACCENT....;;
: Confused about slight nuances between Japanese / Korean if you would like to get advanced level.
: making an sentense and expression as Japanese style.
2) learning Korean first and then Japanese
: easy and quick to get indermidiate level in 6 months for speaking.
: have to learn Chinese characters and hard to get the concept there is two diffrent way to speak for chinese words in Japanese.
: easy to undersatnd japanese vocaburaries from the similar prounciations but hard to read Kanji.... and don't know when to use right words.
: ready to confusing about paticles....! with Korean but I don't need to care about using particles depends on prounciation.
: Confused about slight nuances between Japanese / Korean if you would like to get advanced level.
Conclusion : if you would like to learn two langauge in short time, my personal view is leanrning Japanese first and then Korean is quite easy. (reason why you can learn chinese character/ also if you just want to get intermidiate level of both language for conversations level.) but, minor problems are you have to input alot of time for fixing from japanese Accent/intonation and japanese style expressions... that is it.
but, if you would like to choose one language between those and have long-term period as 5years more, I recomend you to learn Korean first.
(reason why conjugations and prounciation reason, you will find out concept of chinese charaters if you are advanced of Korean)
I decided to learn both languages at the same time because I love listening to Japanese and kpop songs and reading manhwas too ❤️
I started learning Japanese first and then Korean. I realized that grammar is so similar so it was easier for me!
I’m still learning and it’s been really fun!
the fact that they are simmilar, have you ever accidentally mixed them? i mean words. i know bit japanese and also want to start korean
@@kesokapanadze2155 yeah, once.
I accidentally mixed up ‘mirae’ with ‘mirai’ 😭
They both mean future
@@no-lk9gb once? i learned some words in korean and when i tried to say sentence in japanese half was korean😭
As a native korean speaker learning japanese; japanese is fun but i'd recommend Korean. Not biased or anything, but i'd assume it's more comfortable not having to memorize thousands of kanji. I guess the grammar is still difficult but it's basically the same as japanese.
for all the things to consider I thought of Korean EXCEPT for where I see myself in the future because its definitely a dream of mine either to study abroad in Japan or live there for a bit...
i strated learning japanese (i had planned to study there and all) but sadly gave up bc i needed to focus on my studies and in the meantime i got introduced to korean so now im learning korean althought i love them both equally.
Japanese and korean are so beautiful languages...
friend reminder of the 06:43 typo of 어.
and i am moving to Korean from Japanese, since I am getting stuck in N2. hope the process of learning Korean can upgrade my Japanese level...
Thank you for this, I've been trying to decide which to learn first and your breakdown of the two languages helped (I already speak a second language in french but wanted more of a challenge)
Here someone who speaks Spanish learning English, Japanese and Korean at the same time
Hola 👋🏼
same here ! but i speak english & im learning spanish , japanese , & korean :)
@@ogyanabear haha nice
When she started speaking japanese i was like wow I've been doing this a for a year and can only say basic sentences.
She is really inspiring. But what do you think is slowing you down in your japanese language learning?
@@AfroLinguo Procrastination
@@justahumanwithamask4089 Oh!! I see. I hope you can find the strength to stop procrastinating.
@@AfroLinguo thanks
This is a hard one for me because Japanese interests me more, but I've found more interesting content (music, movies, youtube videos) in Korean.
same for me
I loved this kind of video. I chose Japanese to learn/study first.
I am currently trying to decide if I should pick up Korean. I work for an American company, but I am incharge of the IT devision for their Japanese servers. I speak to my clients in Japanese, and have maybe N1 level in ability. I am thinking of doing 6 months in Japan and 6 months in Korea, as my work is remote, but I work Japanese hours so it would be nice to not have to work until 2am like I do living in America right now.
I lived in Japan for 6 years, but I had friends that lived in both places. I am currious how hard it is to learn Korean with my level of Japanese. I am no where near where I want to be in Japanese, so I have a hard time not spending those study hours reading more Japanese instead of studying Korean. However, I think it would be cool to live in Korea instead of going back to the states for 6 months, and I've always been envious of people that know 3 languages (even in America 2 isn't so uncommon).
The biggest thing that worries me is my terrible memory, and the fact that when trying to learn a third language, it seems the first thing that pops up in my mind is the Japanese word. It's like it requires a different method of recollection that my brain just can't do, but maybe if I got to conversationally fluent level that stops being an issue. I know the way I thought when speaking Japanese was completely different to how I do it now. Initially I would translate the sentance form English to Japanese, but now I just think in Japanese.
Perhaps that is what making me think of Japnaese instead of like spanish when I try to speak. I'm still translating from english first. How was your transition to fluency in both languages?
What you are saying is very brilliant way of learning different langues. Actually, for Koreans it is really easy to learn Japanese. I think normal Korean only take 1~2 month to learn basic Japanese and can master daily conversational Japanese less than 6 month. So you can learn Korean first and and then leverage it to learn Japanese.. It would almost feel like one plus one.. i mean, you buy one and get another one for free..But you have to consider this.. These two languages are known to be the hardest language to study for western learners.. lol
Never been so early, cus I needed this so much
I don't even care about Japanese nor Korean but I just like to hear you talking about things you like 🤓
This was such a cute video format
i am learning both but i keep end up focusing on one. but i am trying to divide my time. oh yeah chinese as well lmao
thank you so much, this is very helpful!❤
I don't even want to know how hard it would have been to start Korean if I wasn't able to plug Korean sentences into Papago (Naver) and translate to Japanese. Occasionally I flip it to English just to see, and it feels like all the details are somehow dropped out, even when the translation is correct. It is so confusing it makes my head hurt.
I think that external motivation and the people you meet can be a very important part of the equation in "choosing a language" as well. I was always more interested in Japanese, but moved to South Korea to teach English instead because of the higher pay. I was very resistant to learning Korean at first, but my ex and various friends convinced/coerced me gradually. Years later, even after returning to the States, I can't seem to stop studying Korean. I've never managed to continually study Japanese for more than a month. Had I moved to Japan, though, this may have been a different story.
If you are a weeb/otaku learning Japanese is invaluable, and what I mean by that specifically is get to understand Hiragana first, Katakana second then lastly some basic Kanji. It will help you out immensely for those moments where you want to read a raw manga that hasn’t been translated or those countless light novels in Japan that have not been officially licensed for English readers lmao. Not to mention there are a ton of Sega and Playstation games worth picking up that are still in Japanese like many of the older visual novel games, as well as retro ones. As someone who knows Hiragana fully and is now in the midst of learning Katakana, you will thank me later for having tried because it makes your life much easier if anime is your thing, cheers!
I had this question the entire week 💕 thank you Lindie ✨✨
Thank you this is very helpful. Ive been struggling for about a year now having decision paralysis as to what languge ill be learning next,so yeah ill choose whatever my heart says since i love kdramas and a huge fan of kpop,ill go for korean language!But i would also want Japanese too,so yeah here i go again,😁but naah final decision would be korean!😂
I'm learning English, German, Korean, chinese, japanese, spanish, French, Russian, Dutch, Swedish, thai
Lindie, I'm waiting for the video b/n you and Luca on this channel! 😁. Can't wait.
i really apricate the format of the video! nice way of spicing it up and making it more interesting :D well done.
have a nice day and keep on enjoying the language learning journey!
저도 일본어를 한국어로 공부 하고 있어요! 너무 재미있고 비슷한 점이 많아서 더 쉬워요.. 한국어를 아직 유창하게 할수 없지만 이 정도로만 해도 일본어 배우기 시작한다고 생각해요 ㅎㅎ
> 실수 있으면 알려주세요 ^^
저는 한국사람이 아니지만... 제가 보기론 한국어를 완전 잘하시네요!!! 한국어 교재로 일본어를 공부해보니까 이해가 훨씬 더 잘 갔더라고요!! 번역도 더 직접적이고 충실할뿐더러 문법이 놀라울 정도로 비슷하죠!!
@@chloe8387 감사합니다! 일본어 공부하는 한국분들이 많이서 한국어로 검색할 때 많은 자료를 찾을 수 있지요~ 다행이다 ㅋㅋㅋ
? 처음에는 한국인이 일본어 공부하고 있다는 줄 알았어요 😲
유창하시네요 ㄷ
@@sSLReKi 이렇게 말해주셔서 감사합니다! 한국어 배워야 하는 것은 아직 많네요 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
와우~ 완전 잘 하시네요. 백점 만점에 이백점 드립니다^^
*Thank you 🙏 this was very informative.*
I’m raised trilingually English/German/Chinese (proficiency in descending order). I started learning Korean using English (culture and vicinity).
_I realize using Chinese instead seems more 方便. My ultimate goal is to assimilate all three cultures learning from Chinese to Korean to Japanese._
I'm a retired guy interested in languages, and I currently have taken the opportunity of my retirement to use DuoLingo to learn more about a bunch of them, including both Japanese and Korean. Will I ever travel to Asia? Unlikely. However, since I live in California , there are plenty of Japanese and Korean people and communities around, should my ability in those languages develop to the point where I could use them. Frankly, I'd be thrilled just to be able to read the menus and order a meal in those languages. I already find myself "decoding" Korean and Japanese writing here on YT and elsewhere, for example on music video posts. Anyway, in my fairly unusual case, it makes sense to learn them both at once, since there is actually some question about whether there is time to learn them sequentially.
I am more motivated and I have more fun learning the languages I like than studying my career haha.
For example, I was never motivated to learn English, I understand it well, I studied it since I was 6 years old because it is necessary, but to write this I needed to translate because I am still struggling with grammar. I can still see a whole movie in English and understand it, but I can't speak. This teaches me how important it is to practice the language, and I will do it with the languages I am learning. (I'm obviously not proud of my level of English, but it would be nice to be able to improve it one day if I could speak with native speakers for a while, that would motivate me to improve it).
So, don't forget to practice what you are learning, even if it's a talk with yourselves.
If you hmu ur ig I could help u. I’m a native English speaker
Nice advice! Applies to any related languages. I was REALLY good at Korean and even made a video in Korean but forgot so much now.
Plus side is that its helped so much with Japanese now
For a while now, I' ve been thinking onlearning an eat asnian language. Korean just sounds good to my ear and I'm really interested in the food culture. However, I've been catching up with some anime recently and I just really want to understand everything they are talking about without my eyes going crazy.
I can't decide between the two languages because I really want to lean both but I feel like learning these two at a time is completely nuts.
I'm at this point where I think Japanese would open more doors to me but my brain still wants to learn Korean. And it would be the same thing if it was the opposte situation
Living in Belgium, trying to study Korean:
Are there more Korean or Japanese people around. Neither.
Are there more Korean or Japanese resources? Neither.
Are there more Korean or Japanese classes available? Neither (maybe 1 Japanese at a university? But definitely no Korean)
Is there a Korean or Japanese community? Nope.
Guess I'll stick to the internet 😅
As a Korean expat living in Belgium, most of the Koreans in Belgium reside in Brussels and some in Antwerp. And there are a few Korean exchange students in university cities such as Gent and Leuven as well. I agree that there are not many Koreans in Belgium, compared to the neighboring countries(France, UK, Germany and the Netherlands), but I guess there are more Koreans than Japanese in Belgium…? I’m not quite sure tho. Btw you can find some online Korean communities on FB and some basic Korean courses in big cities(My Belgian bf registered for one). Hope this will be helpful at least a little bit.
@@dani_aroundtheworld I live in the area of Hasselt so Brussels and Antwerp are not really close. Good to know, though. And I think Japanese has been popularized for far longer than Korean due to anime, etc. which may be why it is easier to find lessons, regardless of the population size. Studying alone has its perks, though. I get to truly marvel at the language in detail when I would otherwise have to rush through 😄
There is a large Japanese community in Bangkok where I live and Thailand (Siam) share a history with japan dating back 500 years or so... easy pick for me. Korean is interesting and one I've never considered since my sisters annoy me with K-pop and bts fangirling, but now it's grown on me