All I can say as a Firefox user is Thank You Netscape for releasing Mozilla. Without you, we would all be using IE. (Chrome is also based off an open source project.)
Back in the day my internet was so slow that I could literally start to log in then walk away for 5 minutes before it ever loaded a webpage. Netscape browser was a tremendous help reaching web pages that other browsers failed. And when it was necessary to reinstall the OS, netscape could easily install from a disc as bundled software. It was my favorite web browser!
I really enjoyed the documentary. I really never new what went down when Netscape went away. As a loyal past Netscape user, I never knew until today that I am practically using Netscape again as a Firefox user :)
I remember when Netscape was God. And when Internet Explorer 3 was a friggin joke...buggy, choking on web pages. I used to love clicking on that Netscape icon. It symbolized a new window out to the world.
Very interesting insight into the times just before the Internet Bubble burst. Of course I think that Netscape could have survived if they had just taken a better look at why Mozilla was already moderately successful by then. The Netscape Browser was good before it became just another piece of superfluous bloatware after the AOL takeover.
It's an old idea.. 2 million lines of code for a browser those days might have been a bit exaggerated but nowadays browsers do much more than you imagine. I suggest that you try APIs like FileReader, Canvas 2D, WebGL, WebSockets.. Yeh the client-side is powerful
The first few lines of this are spot on. Particularly in this wantrepreneur era, people imagine that if they can just get to Silicon Valley, there'll be something magical waiting for them. But this place looks like any other. Silicon Valley works because great schools and great companies and great investors bring talented people to the area. Worthless wantrepreneurs flocking the to Valley have nothing to offer.
I can't see any reason why it would. The problem is, even back in 1998, the HTML/CSS standard was a messy thing, full of contradictions, inconsistencies and endlessly-multiplying complexity. Add in the increasing complexity of Javascript, and the speed at which web developers expect their "apps" (read: scripts) to perform, and browser rendering engines are just about the most complex consumer-level software I can think of.
Mozilla eventually became the basis for Firefox. If you want more info on the philosophy behind this idea, good keywords are "Free software" and "Open source".
is writing a browser that runs on different platforms (Windows, Linux, etc.) intrinsically more challenging than a writing any other program for different platforms?
This was amazing. And I saw it on an iPhone running wifi off a portable 4G router. The Internet is just getting started. I'm excited to see what the next 10 years will bring.
Well it's been 11 since you posted this comment - I personally think things have slowed down since the 'golden age' - anything in particular surprise you the last 11 years?
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Compared to what exactly? Compared to mac where it's far more expensive than usual and it can't run a lot of software and the OS isn't terribly customizable? Or compared to linux which has a lot of problems running and weird bugs no one knows how to solve and things that need to be done in the command line.
@someman7 wow, i commented here? cool. so, what don't you understand? netscape ruled until AOL took over. then it became crapware. which is still a pity today since competition is always good for us, the customer *shrug*
I can acquiesce to the part about sacrificing yourself when coding. During crunch times you stay up late eating junk food and drinking fizzy drinks. You need to be health conscious if you're going to code but it's easier said than done. In the past 2 weeks i was working on another project and spent the vast majority of time sitting in front of the computer. After this time i bent down to pick stuff up a few times and my thighs were burning and sore for a couple days like i'd pushed weights!
At the end of it all you're let wondering if the cost is worth it? The cost to family and social life and your health. No doubt for those who obtain their financial freedom to a large degree it is but to the many who don't what price did they pay?
ok I understand that the breakfast club team of the 90's decade will make a new browser with the source code of Netscape I mean bill gates eat your heart
The answer is simple: Xbox. A whole new generation knows them for the console than for the O.S. They may even have Mac at home, but they play in the 360, its as simple as that.
I would suggest anything except IE. IE10 will be a good browser, but in a few years it will be bad again. Developers of online media always need to make sure they write extra code to get stuff done on IE. People do not update their browsers, so there are always people who have crappy IE7+8+9+10 and this will not change fast, because Microsoft installs this on enterprise pc's. So please step away from it to help the developers and eventually help yourself.
I heard a lot of crap from your type about Microsoft. After working on Ubuntu and Mac, I have realized the value of Microsoft. If you wanted to realize it just do some simple thing, Make a decent video edited from different videos, Convert your PDF file to DOCX file and vice versa, Try to read a DJVU format document and at last try to uninstall a s/w deleting it from registry also.
All I can say as a Firefox user is Thank You Netscape for releasing Mozilla. Without you, we would all be using IE. (Chrome is also based off an open source project.)
"My mom could use it? Sure, my mom could write and optimize compilers"
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Dios vine buscando lo mismo xD
17:43 Comida chatarra
@@JonathanRomero-ls2hp Listo, gracias chicos xD ya no tengo que verlo entero.
Jajajaja
Back in the day my internet was so slow that I could literally start to log in then walk away for 5 minutes before it ever loaded a webpage. Netscape browser was a tremendous help reaching web pages that other browsers failed. And when it was necessary to reinstall the OS, netscape could easily install from a disc as bundled software. It was my favorite web browser!
i thought i was a nerd till i saw this video.
This is fun to watch because I was only a little older than the kids in this documentary in 98-00. I even used netscape on the computers at my school.
These guys maybe the funniest and nerdiest guys to be around.
I really enjoyed the documentary. I really never new what went down when Netscape went away. As a loyal past Netscape user, I never knew until today that I am practically using Netscape again as a Firefox user :)
I think I still might have my old Netscape cd-rom lying around somewhere. great documentary.
I remember using the early versions of Netscape browsers in elementary school.... aahhh the days
I remember watching this when it first came out.. always thought Netscape would turn out fine.
That was a great documentary, a window into a moment during a truly revolutionary time in human history.
I remember when Netscape was God.
And when Internet Explorer 3 was a friggin joke...buggy, choking on web pages.
I used to love clicking on that Netscape icon. It symbolized a new window out to the world.
Long live Mozilla!
I think its rather appropritate that I'm using Mozilla Firefox to watch this
Same could be said of many professions. The point is that they are doing what they love, make good money, and many start amazing companies.
Thanks for uploading this.
Very interesting insight into the times just before the Internet Bubble burst. Of course I think that Netscape could have survived if they had just taken a better look at why Mozilla
was already moderately successful by then. The Netscape Browser was good before it became just another piece of superfluous bloatware after the AOL takeover.
"My mom can write optimized compilers!!" lol
what a really great specific group of people
It's an old idea.. 2 million lines of code for a browser those days might have been a bit exaggerated but nowadays browsers do much more than you imagine. I suggest that you try APIs like FileReader, Canvas 2D, WebGL, WebSockets.. Yeh the client-side is powerful
LOL, I know this comment is 9 years old. But excluding tests, a web engine today (there are 3) is at least 100 times that.
Minerva
Everything that Gates says is kind of ironic, Microsoft didn't get that until now
The first few lines of this are spot on. Particularly in this wantrepreneur era, people imagine that if they can just get to Silicon Valley, there'll be something magical waiting for them. But this place looks like any other.
Silicon Valley works because great schools and great companies and great investors bring talented people to the area.
Worthless wantrepreneurs flocking the to Valley have nothing to offer.
Deadlines are just that, dead.
Software is job on progress at all times. It's done when no code is written anymore.
That sounded like structured programming problems.
great documentary. This culture is so unique.
Great post!!
I can't see any reason why it would. The problem is, even back in 1998, the HTML/CSS standard was a messy thing, full of contradictions, inconsistencies and endlessly-multiplying complexity. Add in the increasing complexity of Javascript, and the speed at which web developers expect their "apps" (read: scripts) to perform, and browser rendering engines are just about the most complex consumer-level software I can think of.
Great stuff
Hate to see Netscape fall
no subtitle >
Wow they're really ragging on this Jeff Weinstein.
Felt bad for the guy to have this in the documentary.
Then he closed his bugs like a boss.
Mozilla eventually became the basis for Firefox. If you want more info on the philosophy behind this idea, good keywords are "Free software" and "Open source".
We gotta see the code :P, there is probably a lot of dirt stuff there.
Nowadays it's like 5 million lines... Browsers are platforms
sucked they did not have "Git" back then
is writing a browser that runs on different platforms (Windows, Linux, etc.) intrinsically more challenging than a writing any other program for different platforms?
6:50 - Lester from GTA V
Bill Gates, the Andrew Carnegie of his time.
Completely reinvented his image over the past decade.
This was amazing. And I saw it on an iPhone running wifi off a portable 4G router. The Internet is just getting started. I'm excited to see what the next 10 years will bring.
Well it's been 11 since you posted this comment - I personally think things have slowed down since the 'golden age' - anything in particular surprise you the last 11 years?
28:01 was that a wireless keyboard? :O
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Compared to what exactly? Compared to mac where it's far more expensive than usual and it can't run a lot of software and the OS isn't terribly customizable? Or compared to linux which has a lot of problems running and weird bugs no one knows how to solve and things that need to be done in the command line.
Man I DO hate bug counts.
What would any web browser user suggest. IE9, Chrome, or firefox?
It pleases me to see a lot more women in IT today compared to 25 years ago.
so skrillex made netscape..
I thought Virtual Boys were the precursor to Glass
@someman7 wow, i commented here? cool. so, what don't you understand? netscape ruled until AOL took over. then it became crapware. which is still a pity today since competition is always good for us, the customer *shrug*
What was giving the code away for?, what were developers supposed to do with a Browser's Code?. To develop general Apps and run them under Netscape?
I can acquiesce to the part about sacrificing yourself when coding. During crunch times you stay up late eating junk food and drinking fizzy drinks. You need to be health conscious if you're going to code but it's easier said than done.
In the past 2 weeks i was working on another project and spent the vast majority of time sitting in front of the computer. After this time i bent down to pick stuff up a few times and my thighs were burning and sore for a couple days like i'd pushed weights!
Did you see the poster of Bill Gates wearing what looks like the precursor to Google Glass at 41:05?
"not been driven by government, but by freedom" - bill gates
easy for him to say when windows is closed source as well as IE
"They function much like the Masons".... what was that??
At the end of it all you're let wondering if the cost is worth it? The cost to family and social life and your health. No doubt for those who obtain their financial freedom to a large degree it is but to the many who don't what price did they pay?
David Rothenberg.
@laduran So if someone starts donating money, all his previous evil deeds no longer happened?
I don't think so!
ok I understand that the breakfast club team of the 90's decade will make a new browser with the source code of Netscape I mean bill gates eat your heart
please subtitules in spanish
It's been 10 months, you could've learned English by now
@@mcq2879 If you look at how I learned English, now I'm going to report your comment
hello
@DaFawky I disavow all knowledge of my haircut at 18:40. It didn't exist.
The answer is simple: Xbox. A whole new generation knows them for the console than for the O.S. They may even have Mac at home, but they play in the 360, its as simple as that.
Or, alternatively, good for them, they didn't have to put up with Git.
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I would suggest anything except IE. IE10 will be a good browser, but in a few years it will be bad again. Developers of online media always need to make sure they write extra code to get stuff done on IE. People do not update their browsers, so there are always people who have crappy IE7+8+9+10 and this will not change fast, because Microsoft installs this on enterprise pc's. So please step away from it to help the developers and eventually help yourself.
I heard a lot of crap from your type about Microsoft. After working on Ubuntu and Mac, I have realized the value of Microsoft. If you wanted to realize it just do some simple thing, Make a decent video edited from different videos, Convert your PDF file to DOCX file and vice versa, Try to read a DJVU format document and at last try to uninstall a s/w deleting it from registry also.
12 people use IE. =)